eBay chatboard archive: Feb-25-08 to Mar-02-08 week

Posted by dbenson   ( 8890 ) on Mar-02-08 at 23:18:24 PST   Listings
Alex,

sorry, I can't answer why they are not deemed to be the same of the federal perfs. but it has been that way most probably for the past 100 years. Maybe sometime in the future they will be considered equals but at the moment they are considered inferior. Things change in philately and a few years ago even perf. OS federal issues were looked down on but now have equal or higher status but because of the premium paid for them has created another problem, forged OS perfs. and now they are being looked upon as too risky to collect as the forged perfs are extremely difficult to discern. Most of the Auction houses here refuse to give guarantees on them and in some cases are not accepted for sale,

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 23:10:01 PST   Listings
than=then

David, thanks for an explanation.

These OS_perforated stamps are often included in Australian States lots snf collections. A distinction between state and federal government department seems somewhat irrelevant from the stamp collector's point of view. Since they are collected, and since they are stamps, there should be a demand for a catalog that lists them. Strange that I don't find such a catalog anywhere.
Posted by lloydstamps   ( 621 ) on Mar-02-08 at 23:06:34 PST   Listings
Stamps12345: What was deleted off my board? Both messages I cited are there, and I just checked the links below and they work.

We delete very few messages. Usually, when an occasional visitor says "the message is gone," it's because DelphiForums has marked the message as ready by that person.

Let me reiterate: I have not used the word "idiots" in The VSC message board in the past year, except for the one message where I was quoting someone else.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 23:05:41 PST   Listings
Re Silver: I really could not care less what the Vultures care about this commodity. To me it is not really a commodity but a resource to be transformed. I have been a Silversmith for nearly forty years. Silver to me is something I use to create something of beauty (at least I hope others think so)).
Back in the 70's I use to buy silverware pieces at garage sales. I amassed a pretty good bit of it to. When the Hunt brothers tried to corner the market, I had a hard time ressisting the urged to "capatalize". I sold around fifty pounds at $42.00 an ounce.
I wonder what our wizard of Wall street was doing at the time.

Life ain't all about making money. I feel sorry for the families that have to put up with those that think that way.
Life should be about appreciating and contributing too: beauty, knowledge, understanding, nature and good friends.
No, I didn't not forget love and nuturing of family, actually we are all one big family of glorified apes in the "sphere" of that which IS.
Some people do not get it, really not my problem.
They will get it sooner or later but it is a bit trying to
put up with their insecurties/denseness until that illumination happens.
I would speak my full mind, but.........................
Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 23:04:56 PST   Listings
"lluehhhb" wrote:

Congregate a worldwide group of stamp collectors and build friendship relations within them. Isn't it a basic objetive of any club?

If what is going on here is "friendship," than Russian mafia is "business." Don't take me for a ride, mate.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8890 ) on Mar-02-08 at 23:01:33 PST   Listings
Alex, they were used by State Government departments and are not considered to be on a par with those used by Federal Government departments however they are still collected and there is plenty of literature about them in various articles and magazines. As far as I know they are not in any catalogue and usually sell for a fraction of catalogue value of the Federal perfs.

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 22:53:26 PST   Listings
Re: Australian States with "OS" perforations

Most catalogs (Michel, Scott, SG, Yvert and Brusden White) list OS-perforated stamps of Australian Federation as "Officials" on par with OS-overprinted stamps. They are treated as official postage stamps.

However, I don't see any of these catalogs listing stamps of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, etc., perforated "OS", "NSW OS", etc. Only "official overprints are listed.

Why OS-perforated Australian States stamps aren't treated as legitimate officials? And where does one find OS-perforated Australian States stamps catalogued?
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 22:41:19 PST   Listings
Milenko Gratis, much more than I could have expected.
Thanks for taking the time.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 22:39:25 PST   Listings
LLOYD-----Just when back and now the posting is gone ,how do you like that ,it was deleted off your board .
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 347 ) on Mar-02-08 at 22:23:32 PST   Listings
Mitch
Forgot to say that the base stamps weren't originally printed for the air mail service. They were ordered to London to celebrate the centenary of Maipo battle (1818-1918). However, the stamps arrived some years late and so they weren't put into circulation.
Posted by lloydstamps   ( 621 ) on Mar-02-08 at 22:19:43 PST   Listings
Stamps12345 wrote: "LLOYD and his board has already stated that E-Bay is going to replace the APS idiots with their own idiots .So the philatelic community already painted any new people who come into this job as idiots."

That's an erroneous characterization. In VSC message 29570.5, on January 10th, I wrote, "EBay will have much more say in the selection of the experts, rather than relying on the input of the APS."

I did not use the word "idiots." With one exception, I have not used the word "idiots" in The Virtual Stamp Club message board in at least a year.

In reporting on APS Director-at-Large Michael Dixon's presentation on the APS member survey in message 29569.15, I wrote, "His presentation is full of bon mots such as "I don't know what Scott numbers have to do with anything, other than selling catalogues" when talking about searches on StampStore and something about eBay deciding to use its own idiots to judge lots."

First, you have to understand how Michael talks in public; he's very entertaining, and the zingers fly constantly. But even so, he never referred to "APS idiots."

So Stamps12345's citation is erroneous, both in fact and in characterization.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 347 ) on Mar-02-08 at 22:09:57 PST   Listings
Mitch

In 1925 the original dies of the base stamp were used to print a cinderella, but with modified texts. All forgeries are made adding a fake overprint to these labels.

1)Here you have an original stamp. Note that the texts are:
CHILE/CORREOS/10 CTS/10 CTS/MAIPO
Also, the blue center is printed in a white space without ornaments.

2)In the bottom of this picture you can see the cinderella. the texts are:
CHILE/21 DE MAYO/1925/1925/PRO-RAZA
And the white space for the center now has a thin line around as an ornament.
In the same picture there is a set of fake overprints on the label. Better pictures...

3)... are here. Now you can see clearly the inner line frame and the wrong texts.

4)However, some forgers knew this was too obvious, and made some job on the labels applying paint and thinning some areas in order to reconstruct the original texts, and then applied the fake overprints, like here. In this case the forger didn't remove the inner frame, but I've seen forgeries without the frame. Now you have to see the stamps against light to detect the thinning and paint job.

As you can see the fake overprints are quite bad and it should be he first warning.
A full genuine set is here.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 22:00:09 PST   Listings
Sco-ish Bank is buying silver at over $20.00 a ounce,Their FX desk is busy looks like a good day tomorrow when our market opens here .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 21:51:25 PST   Listings
ROGER / WILLDERSPIN Sorry ,got called away the markets were opening and got busy.

But looking at the SWEDISHTIGER page, thats a excellant idea and one that can bring new posters to this room.

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 21:42:32 PST   Listings
Wilderspin (Roger) I would be most curious what you expect to hear from Stamps 12345? He is not a member of the EUSC so really has nothing to say about it, confirm, accept, thank you mam or nothing but squat and do his business on this board and the EUSC.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 21:39:37 PST   Listings
Milenko Thank you for the most excellent reply!
I was not aware of forgeries for this issue. It must have been quite a test for the forger to make a convincing replica.
The ones I am looking at have an authentic appearance to me
(even though I have not seen any certified or otherwise examples in the flesh).
What would be some of the indicators of a forgery?
Since the stamps themselves were only printed and overprinted (no known un overprinted stamps) for the task you noted. One might assume that the production quality of the stamps may have been somewhat lacking in the detail that similar Chilean stamps might have had.

P.S. Congrats on your well deserved nomination for Prsident of the EUSC
Posted by willderspin   ( 825 ) on Mar-02-08 at 21:35:50 PST   Listings
IO (Mr Volcano) - thank you for the compliment

19thCentPostal - thank you as well. Although there is no need to chip in, it would be free.

I will wait to here from Stamps12345, he has been on the board since my posting, but no acknowledgement yet.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 347 ) on Mar-02-08 at 21:22:51 PST   Listings
Mitch

These stamps were issued for an air mail service between Santiago and Valparaiso, made by a single plane.

The stamps weren't sold directly to the public; the postal clerks added them to the covers and cancelled them, for accounting measures.

To get unused stamps, collectors sent to themselves heavy objects like bricks. The stamps needed couldn't be added to the small package and were given uncancelled to the sender. Evidently the clerk had to be your friend!

When the plane crashed, the stock of stamps was burned.

The production numbers of each stamp are unknown. What we have is the total amount in $ that were sold. given that figure, it has been calculated that no more than 3,000 sets could exist today. The MNH ones are real rarities. Used sets can be found with certain frequency, but usually they sell for full cat value since it's a popular set. Beware for forgeries.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 21:05:23 PST   Listings
19th.C,

the line that goes though the top of the inverted W appears to have been added to make it appear that the cancel is over the overprint,

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 21:05:01 PST   Listings
Since "jaywild" is into quotes lately, here's a good one for him from one of the greatest American classics:

Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded--here and there, now and then--are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty. This is known as “bad luck.”

Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Mar-02-08 at 21:04:00 PST   Listings
Alex

I really did not mean my comments to be complimentary but rather satisfactory in that you did not waste words on complaining about posts to the board, but rather added some educational information.

From a personal viewpoint, if you could continue in such a manner I would appreciate it. But I am but a single contributor to the board and others may have different wishes.

Paul

You are free to quote everything I write.

wilderspin..Roger

That is a wonderful web site, even though I don't collect US stamps.

Milenko

thank you for being willing to accept the position of President of the eUSC. I think you will be very good at the task.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 21:02:00 PST   Listings
19th.C,

the SWA pair has a Johannesburg cancel which doesn't give them much credence,

David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 20:56:06 PST   Listings
Milenko Could you please inform me what the production numbers were for the first Chilean airmails.
I remember you saying that they were quite low and the catalog prices did not reflect that scarcity.

Hi Lynn Many thanks for the recent additions you sent.
Posted by craftyps   ( 1191 ) on Mar-02-08 at 20:44:13 PST   Listings
Scotpel re: German stamp. It translates: Railroad Mail, train # 265 from Cologne to Frankfurt/Main.
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 243 ) on Mar-02-08 at 20:26:05 PST   Listings
infla-alec I would very much appreciate a tutorial on submitting material to German expertizers, if you have the time and inclination.
wilderspin I really like your idea about advertising on theswedishtiger. I will also be willing to 'chip in' for that.
NOIP Anyone familiar with 1940's South West Africa overprints see anything wrong with these inverts?
TIA Lynn
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:52:31 PST   Listings
D2… I’ve seen you teetering on the edge of 8888 feedback for a couple days. 8 is a very lucky number to the Chinese…

Jim
Posted by scottpel3   ( 875 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:51:10 PST   Listings
David: in looking at the French stamp. The top of the middle hole appears to have canceling ink going into the hole. This may speak against the holes being added after the cancelation.
Scott
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:47:32 PST   Listings
Lloyd, slight correction, I know that were some non APS members who also worked as well, I also include them in doing a fine and competent job,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:45:53 PST   Listings
LLoyd,

for your benefit, personally I think the people appointed by the APS and the APS members who worked on the relationship did a very good job and in no way would I describe them as idiots but as very competent individuals and I hope the same group will continue working for Ebay after the relationship ends,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:42:49 PST   Listings
Lloyd,

if you are out there, could you provide the link to this statement attributed to you,

" LLOYD and his board has already stated that E-Bay is going to replace the APS idiots with their own idiots .So the philatelic community already painted any new people who come into this job as idiots. Its a shame because it could be some very responsible people who have good intentions to do the job right ",

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:24:16 PST   Listings
JAY ----Thats Romans 3:23
Posted by scottpel3   ( 875 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:20:32 PST   Listings
Thank you Jim for the suggestion. That should bring it between 1934 and 1951 from googling him.
Scott
Posted by willderspin   ( 825 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:15:47 PST   Listings
STAMPS12345

I would not throw my hat in the ring for president as I am over committed for time and I such a rare visitor here anyway, moreover I an woefully lacking in qualifications. However, I am interested in advertising the ebay stamp club on theswedishtiger.com. It has now become the most second most visited stamp site and thus can garner a lot of traffic in your direction. Let me know. I can probably assist in the fund. Let me know
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:14:11 PST   Listings
Paul… “All have sinned, and fall short of the glory of [INSERT PERSONAL DEITY’S NAME HERE].”



Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:12:29 PST   Listings
Scott & D2… The Belgian revenue has a “III” in what looks like a laurel wreath, which might indicate Leopold III, which would help date the item.

Jim
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1478 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:10:57 PST   Listings

Jim L.
member
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:08:21 PST   Listings
JAY ---Your picking on me ---lol
Posted by scottpel3   ( 875 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:07:53 PST   Listings
Thank you David. I appreciate the information.
Scott
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:07:28 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----The dollar amount is confidential, first guess was $100,000 but was told by a good source my number was high .

The other statement can be confirmed by LLOYD or read thru his links .

Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 19:01:41 PST   Listings
Scott, can't answer the 1st. French item an dmay be a later addition. The 2nd. item is Belgian, looks like a cigarette tax label. the German oval is a Railway Post Office marking.

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-02-08 at 18:56:48 PST   Listings
Paul… A quote from you:
Maybe we can get this famous quote put into the clubs bylaws -------- A statement as to the disagreement with a specific comment would be more useful than a personal diatribe against the poster " -------If you don't mind ,i'll like to use that quote on a regulate basis
Anybody who has the time and inclination can go back through the years are find hundreds of insults you have made to others on the board. So perhaps civility on the board will begin when you—
1. Quit complaining that everyone is picking on you
2. Quit picking on others
Just a thought…

Jim
Posted by scottpel3   ( 875 ) on Mar-02-08 at 18:54:01 PST   Listings
On looking at the fiscal - perhaps a Belgian fiscal? Yes it is in terrible shape.
Scott
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 18:53:43 PST   Listings
Paul, could you provide some links regarding both your statements,

David B.
Posted by scottpel3   ( 875 ) on Mar-02-08 at 18:52:30 PST   Listings
Basic stamp questions:

I started looking at a cheap, earlier, on paper stamp mixture. I came across the following amoung them.

http://www.ceremonyprograms.com/programs/stamps009a.jpg

Question 1: why the line of holes in the French stamp. Does not appear to be perfs or perfin.

Question 2: The long item appears to be a French fiscal, can anyone give any information on it?

Question 3: the cancel on the Germania may be common but is of a different shape than most I am finding. Can someone give me information about the cancel.

Working on cheap stamps can be fun if not financially rewarding. It can, with the help of this group, also be educational.
Scott
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 18:50:42 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ------...LLOYD and his board has already stated that E-Bay is going to replace the APS idiots with their own idiots .So the philatelic community already painted any new people who come into this job as idiots. Its a shame because it could be some very responsible people who have good intentions to do the job right .

. .But what interest me is the $75,000 or about that amount that e-bay is willing to spent to help clear up bad listings .That is cheap compared to the millions their legal dept. spents for after the fact policeing .

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 18:23:03 PST   Listings
IOMOON -------Maybe we can get this famous quote put into the clubs bylaws -------- A statement as to the disagreement with a specific comment would be more useful than a personal diatribe against the poster " -------If you don't mind ,i'll like to use that quote on a regulate basis
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 18:19:41 PST   Listings
Paul, agreed, it is not an error,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 18:17:56 PST   Listings
One of Paul's suggestions would make a great topic.

It is his statement about what will occur when the APS & Ebay agreement is cancelled as Ebay is cancelling all of it's agreements.

I don't know what Ebay has in mind but it looks like they will be organising an inhouse watch group instead of referring material to the Stamp Watch Committee and the APS for verification that something is wrong with the listing. The APS has been very quiet and Ebay hasn't made any other statements. Possibly the incoming President can make approaches to Ebay and recommend individuals who can assist Ebay in their area of expertise.

David B.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 18:05:23 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----Its still of interest to a collector and will be a neat addition to any China collection . Never said it was a error just a rare variety .
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 17:33:53 PST   Listings
Paul, yes there is a mark on the C but as the overprint was made using printers type it cannot be a error of lettering and is a flaw on the letter C. It is not a primary flaw, if you check the web page on the 1c. on 3c. you will see that none of the 25 positions show that variation, therefore it must be a secondary flaw which occurred on all stamps from that position or a temporary variation.

If you look at all of the 25 positions you will see a lot of extra ink marks which were caused by poor quality of overprinting,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 17:33:31 PST   Listings
Im tired of people hiding behind fake I.D. s
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-02-08 at 17:29:00 PST   Listings
A VERY GOOD wink EVENING TO ALL!!
Posted by steeler2018   ( 0 ) on Mar-02-08 at 17:19:07 PST   Listings
afert,

You said the general altmosphere on the board would be much healthier if people stopped making stale self gratifying remarks, and then you ask what the EUSC has ever done. "Exactly nothing. Its president may as well be Mickey Mouse."

I think what everybofy is tired of is you.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 17:17:51 PST   Listings
PETER Sure here is a 1200 dpi scan. BETTER SCAN .......paul
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 347 ) on Mar-02-08 at 17:09:40 PST   Listings
Alex:

"What this club has ever done?"

Congregate a worldwide group of stamp collectors and build friendship relations within them. Isn't it a basic objetive of any club?

From your posts it's evident that you're not interested in long term social relations. Virtually all your posts from the beginning have had some negative message. So, why you waste your time here?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 84 ) on Mar-02-08 at 17:05:07 PST   Listings
PaulIf you are going to shut your critics up you need to provide a much better scan of that cents area, suggest you post a 600dpi of that area.
Peter
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:47:29 PST   Listings
Uh-oh. Don’t go out in the woods today, the yeti is on the loose again, and he has a thorn in his sit-down…



Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:47:18 PST   Listings
Paul, the reason for that is that tend to show items that you claim are rare or an unknown variety when the statements are incorrect,

Send the item for a certificate if you want but you will be wasting your money,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:44:40 PST   Listings
make that 25 positions which were repeated 4 times per sheet.

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:43:40 PST   Listings
SHOCKING....just shocking

DAVID B. -------Lets be honest with each other ,in the past seven years of showing scans ,you NEVER said anything good about any stamp that I have shown and I mean hundreds of scans . You have never said anything good or positive ....so im I shocked ...NO .

but your wrong about that stamp ,its going for a certificate.

NOIP-----Here is more early China EARLY AIRMAILS....paul

Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:42:01 PST   Listings
"jaywild" wrote:

However, if you think you’ve found a new variety, perhaps you should send your discovery to Scott and Stanley Gibbons, and Linns as well. Have you ever sent your “error” discoveries off to any of the catalog publishers?

Have you?

Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:39:10 PST   Listings
Paul,

here is an experts study of the Red Revenues,

http://www.angelnetworking.com/stamps/

and the complete study of the 20 types of the One Cent which were repeated to overprint,

http://www.angelnetworking.com/stamps/rr1c/index.html

you should be able to position your stamps,

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:38:01 PST   Listings
iomoon:

I don't remember asking for your or anybody else's compliments. My self-esteem doesn't depend on casual comments of a passer-by.

Anyway, the general atmosphere on this board would be much healthier, in my opinion, if regular visitors would stop picking on Paul (stamps12345). Most of us don't appreciate this kind of stale sadistic self-gratification, and are tired of it.

On the other subject:

Who cares, who would be a president of the eBay Users' Stamp Club? What this club has ever done? Exactly nothing. Its president may as well be Mickey Mouse (or even a "lindy" for that matter).

By the way, Paul (stamps12345) was the only one here who wrote something meaningful about this club and its possible future.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:32:04 PST   Listings
Paul… I am having trouble seeing the EENT. An enlarged view shows quite a bit of difference between the first and second letter of CENTS in the bottom stamp. There is a blob inside the C but that’s just lint or other detritus stuck to the type that has picked up ink. Happens in letterpress printing all the time, and in litho too, where it’s called “scumming”.

However, if you think you’ve found a new variety, perhaps you should send your discovery to Scott and Stanley Gibbons, and Linns as well. Have you ever sent your “error” discoveries off to any of the catalog publishers?

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:26:06 PST   Listings
Paul,

looks like an optical illusion and a bit of imagination to me,

a close up scan of the C should prove it,

David B.
Posted by oregonstamps   ( 251 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:19:10 PST   Listings
Does anyone have any information about a book on Nicaragua stamps by Stroub?

Timm
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:13:13 PST   Listings
NOIP-------Rather talk about the common early China but if you really want to see something to brag about ,here is a neat unknown variety.The stamp shows this better than it shows in the scan . ONE EENT FOR ONE CENT .....more later
Posted by philatarium   ( 249 ) on Mar-02-08 at 16:01:03 PST   Listings
errata:

3rd paragraph: "since" should be "sense"
4th paragraph: "it's right half" should be "its right half"

and probably others

(I should not have tried to compose that post on the fly.)
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 15:58:01 PST   Listings
DAVID B. -----Give it a break ,I clearly told everyone here that the stamps where pre-1949 as early China.That I was working on perf ,color,paper and overprint varities that most worldwide collectors fail to identify .Where you got the bug about the expensive Imperial China stamps im not sure but they are hard to find and the cost on them is usually at premium prices .

If you want to see some sure give me a minute .....

Posted by philatarium   ( 249 ) on Mar-02-08 at 15:56:47 PST   Listings
Comrade: I'm no expert, but I believe the city in the return address is correct, called "Shingishu" at that time.

I checked in a philatelic reference that shows in Japanese characters the Korean post office names during the Japanese occupation.

The only character I can make out clearly is the leftmost one, which is on the envelope, rather than being obscured (and smeared) by the stamp. That character reads "shu" (or "shuu"), and, since this was a time that those characters were read right to left, that makes since.

The middle character, "gi" is complex, and may explain why it's such a blur. The rightmost character, "shin", is also complex, but it's right half is a little simpler, and what's on the stamp kind of looks like that. I would not have recognized that character (and it's one I still remember) unless I had known what I was looking for, which I didn't until I checked the reference mentioned above.

According to some Googling, the current name of that city is Sinuiju, and it's located in what is now North Korea.

As for the date, I can't put my hands at the moment on another reference that I like better and that would confirm this for me, but assuming that the Japanese calendar which was imposed on Korea during this period used the same "regnal year", then I believe the date is Jan 13, 1914. [YY - MM - DD, where "3" is the year, which would mean Taisho 3, which is 1914.] That would also be the year when the first run of that stamp was issued. (Again, wish I had a particular reference handy).

It is possible that the date reads DD - MM - YY, in which case the year would be Taisho 13, which is 1938, and the date would be Jan 3, 1938, when those stamps were still about, but other definitives were in use by then, at least in Japan proper. So I would lean towards Jan 13, 1914, but am willing to be corrected.

This is a postcard, right? So is there anything on the reverse that would confirm these hypotheses?

If you'd like, you can send me a scan at:

stamps --at-- pacificanalytics --dot-- com

I'm hoping someone who is more knowledgeable than I will jump in here at any moment, but I hope this is helpful in the meantime.

-- Dave
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 15:46:49 PST   Listings
Alex,

he has been bragging about his early China for a couple of weeks, time to stop bragging and showing,

He has just admitted that he has no early China only the later issues so that is something definite he has stated,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Mar-02-08 at 15:46:00 PST   Listings
Alex

You are to be complimented on your first few postings after being reinstated on the chatboard.

We all like to gather information which singular persons have within their expertise.

However, please refrain from commenting on other people's inabilities to respond to questions unless you feel the comment is non-beneficial.

Most of the regular posters to the board are sufficiently experienced in their own fields to provide useful information.

A statement as to the disagreement with a specific comment would be more useful than a personal diatribe against the poster.
Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 15:27:25 PST   Listings
dbenson, paolo et al.

It would much improve your image in the eyes of a casual visitor if you would get off Paul's back and look in the mirror once in a while. Experts, my behind!
Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 15:25:20 PST   Listings
Knud:

I can read now "City of Warsaw VI City Post Office" on the wax seal. I cannot read anything new on the front postmark, aorry.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 15:00:53 PST   Listings
David B. ------Don't understand your statement about "Bragging about early China " any reader can look at a catalog and see that 50% of the stamps are at minium catalog and another 30%catalog under $5.00 each.So what am I bragging about, staying up late for three weeks each night sorting cheap stamps according perforations,color,paper and overprints .I've already stated here that the stamps have low financial value and most collectors never get around to a decent collection . Give me a break its hard work and with little end results award.

The pre-1900 stamps are not cheap and are in high demand and I don't have enought to impress anyone.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 14:58:10 PST   Listings
briguy,

" DAMAGED BY SHRAPNEL " would be a better description,

David B.
Posted by abelstamps   ( 1585 ) on Mar-02-08 at 14:47:53 PST   Listings
stamps12345:
I too have an interest in seeing the early China you have been working on. Do you have a scanner?
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Mar-02-08 at 14:37:37 PST   Listings
Best advice, do NOT sneeze when holding these. :o(
Posted by laumpc   ( 2987 ) on Mar-02-08 at 13:38:04 PST   Listings
Matt Unless they want the catalog to ballon in size, they almost have to keep the font. It took me almost a week of experimentation to come up with the style which reduce the size of catalog by a significant amount. Problem is going to be the images which were cut and paste into the pages. It might not be a bad idea to make the catalog two volumes and scan in all the images.
Posted by comrade666   ( 1306 ) on Mar-02-08 at 13:34:23 PST   Listings
Hello,
Thanks stamphick. I am Comrade666. The cover I asked to be posted has Japanese stamps. The return address shows a place in Korea. I do not know Japanese. So, my question is "Is this item from the place shown in the return address, and what is the date.

Dave
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1995 ) on Mar-02-08 at 13:09:28 PST   Listings
Mike: Much easier when building on the existing work, of course. There have been a lot of state editors and section editors appointed. Decisions on uniform listing style, formatting, etc. are being made up front to make the revisions as easy as possible.
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Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:55:32 PST   Listings
Milenko and Lindy Thank you for your confirmations.

Alec I must have it confused with another ID. There was another lady designer from Manhattan who frequented the board several years ago.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:48:11 PST   Listings
Mitch No the Catwhowalks was a UK member. Manhattan Katrina is US based member.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 584 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:43:13 PST   Listings
7.40am here in Melbourne, er, thank you Mitchell, but I don't even collect stamps now, sorry have to decline your kind nomination.

However, I do agree Milenko would make a good club President, if he is willing and has the time.

I enjoy reading the board most days, and answer any simple questions I can, but thats it.

Linda
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 347 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:41:02 PST   Listings
I'm very honoured to be considered for EUSC president, and I accept the nomination.

thanks!
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:37:33 PST   Listings
Alec Actually, I believe Kat has been an officer in the club before you came here. Under the ID Catwhowalksbyherself (sp)

Richard (sayasan) Could you please clarify if you would accept nomination?
Posted by laumpc   ( 2987 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:27:23 PST   Listings
Matt Thanks for the update. It will be interesting to see how the society is going to do all this. Considering how much work is involve just to do the pasteups of the images.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:20:49 PST   Listings
Mitch If permissable I'll second all three nominations. I know all three and I have no doubt all would do their best if elected.

When it comes down to voting itself I vote for Manhattan. Katrina is new to the board yes but maybe the Eusc board does need someone new to come into the fold. At least by volunteering we have a willing nominee.

I have no doubt though Pauls comments are arguably something the Eusc does need to consider at least acting upon.

Perhaps the new incoming President should we get one does need a bit more support and help. I offer to help when I can but simnply can't commit myself to actually running not because I don't want to but because of many other commitments. But if the new President feels I can help in some way I will if I can.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 376 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:17:57 PST   Listings
Richard

Can you tell me about this cover?

Thanks,

PC
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:14:52 PST   Listings
Mitch,

I thought others would jump in as there is a great division between those who think 3rd. party grading is a good idea and those that don't.

Like I said I believe it is basically a good idea and will be here forever,

p.s. I think the US is the only area which has grading which extends to fairly modern material whilst all other grading is regarding 19th. Century material,


let's hear from others who have ideas,

David B.
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:12:39 PST   Listings
Hey Mitchell,
What about my nomination of Richard W. (Sayasan) at mine of 10:00:02 PST confirmed by mine at 10:18:51 PST?
I did not read a decline in Richard's reply.
He just wrote he's not of a regular enough, but regularity can be regulated, eventually augmented, upon oneself's wish.

Ciao, Paolo
Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:05:38 PST   Listings
Someone asked me to link to these scans and ask if this cover was sent from Korea and if so from what city and what date.

Cover.

Postmark.

I'm not really sure of the eBay ID of the person who asked but I assume he'll show up to see any answers.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 376 ) on Mar-02-08 at 12:01:10 PST   Listings
Hi Richard,

Thanks. So that is a rare one?


PC
Posted by 1covers   ( 1375 ) on Mar-02-08 at 11:57:55 PST   Listings
PC - that "N. York Am. Pkt. Paid" (with paid off center to right) was used in red as an exchange office marking in the mid 1860's on mail abroad. Rarely seen as a cancel.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 376 ) on Mar-02-08 at 11:51:46 PST   Listings
Is this a steam packet cancel?

Steam Packet Cancel

Thanks,

PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 11:50:16 PST   Listings
David B. It was your idea for the topic of grading at this meeting. Since there seems to be no input or little interest, I would hope you have something to contribute. <;~`)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 11:48:05 PST   Listings
Matt (paperhistory) Thank You!
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 11:47:00 PST   Listings
We have two nominations for President and one volunteer.
I would appreciate if the nominees would (at there earliest opportunity) accept or decline their nomination.
Seconding of all three, will also be a next step.

Miny Lindy nominated
lluehhhb nominated
manhattanconcepts volunteer
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-02-08 at 11:45:52 PST   Listings
Paul,

instead of bragging about your EARLY China, how about showing some of it, just the pre 1900 will be fine,

David B.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1995 ) on Mar-02-08 at 11:39:13 PST   Listings
catching up -- I'm willing to continue as the APS rep. If anyone else wants to step up, that's fine too.

laumpc: yes, the Classics Society is still going to do an ASCC update. I'm involved in the project (in a minor way). Things will start moving soon, but I think the general rule is that the time will be taken to get it right rather than to get it rushed to print.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 11:38:37 PST   Listings
AHEM........
If anyone cares to remember, the topic of the first meeting of my tenure was to see how to better the EUSC.
Fact is, there were very few ideas and no one was jumping at the chance to go forward with them. The idea of donations was brought up and we did have one very generous person (Infla-Alec) who donated $100. That $100 is still intact. I have asked acouple times since how we might spend it with no comment. Probably because if someone has an idea that might be agreed upon, they usually figure they will be the ones that are chosen to carry it out (so goes the world)
It is quite easy for a non member to sit around critize and blow hot air. After all, those people would never need to have any guilt about not doing anything about it, being a non member they have no responsibility for their comments.
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:47:31 PST   Listings
I hereby post the constitution of the eBay Users' Stamp Club,
and suggest, besides reading it all again, to pay particular attention to the article 4 under BY-LAWS:
http://www.iusc.org/constitution.html

Anyhow, free will (out of the book) donations might be appreciated ;-)

Mitchell,
You have my most complete understanding! Hold on, for now!


Cheers,
Paolo
Posted by de66   ( 1203 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:38:19 PST   Listings
Stamps 1-5

If you join our little band of merry men & women, i will nominate you for president and happy to paypal $10 to a fund.

D1
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:35:01 PST   Listings
Milenko,
All the Italian Experts I deal with require shipment per insured letter, or brevi manu consignement.

I know the items from Estudio 20 from 1999 when I first registered on eBay. I have seen things of all colours coming out from their "Studio Filatelico" ;-)

One important thing comes to mind:
never trust those Experts who expertise their own philatelic material in order to sell it better.

Saludos cordiales,
Paolo
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:30:25 PST   Listings
I would like to nominate Milenko ( lluehhhb ) for President of eUSC.

A South American President will highlight the international diversity of board readers and posters.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:29:01 PST   Listings
Paolo You should know that I would be hard pressed to knowingly do such a thing. I do believe my tongue will be on the mend after the first of April. Biting it this last year has been rather difficult.
Posted by manhattanconcepts   ( 12 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:28:31 PST   Listings
I'll be president. Wait. Is this the "kitty for you" board? :)

Katrina
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 347 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:22:02 PST   Listings
EUSC meeting

I really don't have too much to say about expertising. The first and last time I used the service of our local society, the item was lost... altough I was refunded.

and finally, I've said this before, but it's good to repeat it: Never ever trust any certificate from Estudio 20 in Argentina. They say that their opinions in latin american items are final, but I've seen some basic forgeries certified by them, with bells and whistles in the descriptions!
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:18:51 PST   Listings
Richard,
A little bit satirical, indeed, but my nomination of you is 99,99% sincere.
You have shown repeatedly to have a solid grasp of Philately, you can write your language egregiously, you can argument in a polite way, the way of relating yourself with the others is diplomatic and makes sense most of the times I read it.
These are just some of the prerequisites for covering such a position successfully, in my opinion.
Best,
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:08:03 PST   Listings
P.P.S. my last at 10:05:36 PST was addressed as a P.S. to my previous addressed to Mitchell.
Paolo
Posted by sayasan   ( 750 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:06:06 PST   Listings
Paolo - Thanks, but I don't think I'm a regular enough visitor here these days to be committed. Besides, I think you're just nominating me as a revenge for my having (satirically) nominated Paul ...
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:05:36 PST   Listings
P.S. probably unwillyngly, but you made him a compliment!
I foresee a "celebrative beer marathon" on its end this evening!

Sorry, I couldn't help! (the devil made me write it! LOL)
Paolo
Posted by sayasan   ( 750 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:04:29 PST   Listings
Paul is not an EUSC member?? I'm devastated. In that case, I fail to understand why he has been banging on below about the president should do this and EUSC should do that. If you're not a member, Paul, and don't intend to be, maybe you should keep quiet? (To put it politely.) Too many people in this world full of advice for others, as long as they don't have to do anything about it themselves ...
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-02-08 at 10:00:02 PST   Listings
I would like to nominate Richard W. (Sayasan) for President! ;-)

Mitchell,
The other one is truly "illegible" much before than being ineligible! ROTFLMAO!

Best,
Paolo
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 09:48:29 PST   Listings
I would like to nominate Mini*Lindy for President.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-02-08 at 09:46:55 PST   Listings
Re EUSC Meeting

So far we have only two legitimate nominees for President (Infla- Alec and Greenwave4u), both have declined.
Stamps 12345 is not now, nor ever has been a member of the EUSC. So he is not illegible.

Bill Seymour has agreed to stay on as executive assistant and so has Peter Gorton for media relations officer.
I would also like to see Matt Liebson volunteer for another stint as APS representative.

Still we need some nominations for Presdident and if anyone would like to nominate or volunteer for any positions, please speak up.
Posted by djs127   ( 649 ) on Mar-02-08 at 08:45:30 PST   Listings
Paul yes the company was Campbell-Hall - I still have a printed sheet somewhere from them. I have been very busy at work on a project and have not had as much time to sell on Ebay. Mostly been buying Scott specialty pages so I can remount my father's mint stamps.
On China yes there are many variations my father had 7 stock sheets of old Chinese stamps most of which he never went through.
David Snyder
Posted by balkania05   ( 714 ) on Mar-02-08 at 08:30:10 PST   Listings
Thank you very much to all.balkania05
Posted by sayasan   ( 750 ) on Mar-02-08 at 07:56:50 PST   Listings
Sorry, K-E!!

Paul - do you accept my nomination?

Posted by knuden   ( 2415 ) on Mar-02-08 at 07:53:18 PST   Listings
Sniped by sayasan :O)

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!
Posted by knuden   ( 2415 ) on Mar-02-08 at 07:51:58 PST   Listings
balkania05 - It's a (private?) local stamp from Herm Island (one of the channel islands) issued May 1 1957. I can't tell you the value, as I don't have a catalog of these (other might help you on this). :O)
You can read more here

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!
Posted by sayasan   ( 750 ) on Mar-02-08 at 07:50:11 PST   Listings
balkania - that's a Herm Island "local carriage label" from the 1950's or '60's - I forget the date of that particular issue. The island is a boat ride away from Guernsey in the Channel islands, and from 1949 to 1969 mail could be sent (mostly by visitors) from Herm to the post office on Guernsey. Herm was the second British island (after Lundy) to issue such labels. Thousands of speculative labels from other islands followed after. As this is a local you'll need a specialised Channel Islands listing. Try Google - I'm sure you'll find something. Not much value as a single. In a set, this would sell under Cinderellas or GB locals - a category we have on eBay UK.
Posted by sayasan   ( 750 ) on Mar-02-08 at 07:45:15 PST   Listings
Paul - that's a far sighted set of proposals, admirably set out.

I propose Paul for president.

Posted by balkania05   ( 714 ) on Mar-02-08 at 07:39:18 PST   Listings
Hello e1,
Need your help with this stamp. Couldn't find in any of catalogs. Somebody can help me please?
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8366/16887550ld1.jpg
Posted by knuden   ( 2415 ) on Mar-02-08 at 07:09:06 PST   Listings
Alexander - Thank you very much. :O) Your comments is very usefull and have been saved.
By the way - the "656" on the back of the cover, is the number which was attached to the money letter and was written on a dayly list of registered, insured and money letters from the departing post office. This was the way of keeping track of this kind of letters. (I don't know the correct English word of this kind of list - sorry).
I have attached a better scan of the cancel of the front and the seal on back here and here.

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 07:08:43 PST   Listings
WRONG APPROACH Looks like the club hit a roadblock ,looking for a president .

Whats needed is a president with a plan and a group behind him/her who would help in laying out a new direction with a vision of getting a step up on the level of participation.

Whats need first is a plan or someone who can see ahead. That person then needs a hard comitment from others to help push the plan .They can't do it a alone .

Here are some examples of want needs to be done .

A fund needs to be created for advertising purposes something small like $200.00 a year to run a non-profit ad or to get e-bay more interested to maybe fund a small "welcome to our community " ad. E-bay will have a huge savings after they cut their ties to the APS ,sometime this year so a little more to get new posters and new buyers and sellers could be in their buget.

The club needs to expand its base of posters by inviting other clubs to have a hour or two so their members can post .

Also the club needs to set times for different interest that will bring the old crowd back so they can see their subject and interest being discussed. .This willy-nilly posting of discussions loses too many people because of other commitments in daily life .

This chat room will be the only GATEWAY to the APS for many of the buyers and sellers after the APS exits the scene.Something nobody here talked about . ............ TO SUM IT UP SOMEONE WILL NEED OTHERS TO COMMITT TO A NEW VISION BEFORE THEY TAKE THE POSITION AS PRESIDENT ,NO COMMITTMENT NO ONE WANTS THE JOB ......paul

Posted by kathmoon   ( 433 ) on Mar-02-08 at 06:52:48 PST   Listings
Paul, Thanks for your answers - makes sense !! Nick
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 06:10:38 PST   Listings
ALEX Good to see you posting .

I have to believe there is a lot about China stamps that can only be found in very specialized and very limited research papers .But the U.S. has to be the most fertile grounds for doing research and making discoveries because so many dealers just gloss over any material that comes their way .

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 06:03:33 PST   Listings
NICK To answer your question about the high realization on the BHUTAN stamps .Here are a few points any one or a combination factors that help the price .

Modern stamps are doing well on e-bay and prices on much hit closer to catalog value than earlier material.

You had two bidders that wanted it .

It was a complete set which is unusal because the first few stamps of the set are found in cheap lots all the time but not the complete set.

That set is popular with beginners because its pictured all the time .

The subject on the stamps are popular .

The set of stamps are pictured in printed albums because it is one of the earlier odd shape stamps .

Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 05:55:34 PST   Listings
Howdy, Paul. Yes, early China is difficult, especially overprints -- and expensive.

I am having fun with old Australian States lately: perforations, watermarks, dies and shades...

Got to go to sleep now, been working all night.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-02-08 at 05:49:12 PST   Listings
NOIP-----Still working on China ,gone way past 50 pages .Will have a whole binder of a decent showning of describtions not found in the regular catalogs. Lots of paper,over print and color varities.

Now I see why people don't try to expand their China collections ,its slow going even once you finish a collection to go back and check if its a duplicate its a slow process and a relearning of all the various stamps that it could be listed under .....paul

Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 04:56:16 PST   Listings
Knud:

The postmark on the face is only partially legible:
"City Post and Tel[egraph] office" at the bottom, and 26 [October] 1899. The upper part of this postmark is missing.
Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 04:41:54 PST   Listings
Knud:

This is a Russian Jewish money transfer letter.

Face:
In the upper left corner:
No. 794
In the upper right corner:
Money enclosed
Main text:
Enclosed are ten rub[les]. № [digital face value] 10 rub[les]
To [railroad] sta[tion] Baranovichi M. B. Zh. D. [Moscow-Belarus Railroad]
To [small] township of Rozvodovo c/o Sheyel Schwarz for Itzk Altschuler
in Girchitzi (?), from V. Altschuler
Kotikovaya [street], No. 40

Back:
Partial postmark on the left:
M. B. Zh. D. [Moscow-Belarus Railroad], Dispatch (?) II, X (October) [18]99
Nice postmark at the bottom:
Baranovichi, Minsk Province, Post [and] Tel[egraph] Office 2, 28 October 1899

The other marks are some numbers (including dates?) and a signature (apparently by Schwarz).

I cannot read the text on the wax seals, it's not clear enough.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 84 ) on Mar-02-08 at 04:38:46 PST   Listings
Jim/Paolo Thanks you for your faith in me but I must respectfully decline. My work committments, travelling etc are such that I would not have the time to do the position justice. Maybe in 5 years when I "might" have retired:-)
As to media rep and willing to continue and try harder! Should have an article in Stamp magazine published very soon which will give some PR for EUSC. Sometimes think the media rep position would be better served as moderator with the power to delete stupid posts!
cheers
Peter
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1478 ) on Mar-02-08 at 04:21:49 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all




Jim L.member
Posted by afeht   ( 1273 ) on Mar-02-08 at 04:13:41 PST   Listings

Boo!

Posted by knuden   ( 2415 ) on Mar-02-08 at 02:42:46 PST   Listings
I have a question to the Russian speaking/reading member/s of the board.
I have this Russian cover (back) - can you tell me what I got here?

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!
Posted by knuden   ( 2415 ) on Mar-02-08 at 02:20:59 PST   Listings
Thanks to a tip from malolo I have won this lot. The wrapper is sent to Persia (today Iran) and will fit fine into my collection of Swiss wrappers. :O)
In another auction I won this wrapper - again an unusual destination. :O)

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!
Posted by laumpc   ( 2987 ) on Mar-02-08 at 00:08:21 PST   Listings
I was reviewing an old announcement http://www.uspcs.org/2005_01_ASCC.html. Wondering if anyone have a status update as to whether or not the society is doing an update of the catalogs.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 584 ) on Mar-01-08 at 22:42:26 PST   Listings
Jim, just as the 5,000 or so negatives that seller left for him only counted as ONE!!
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-01-08 at 22:30:51 PST   Listings
Lindy… What’s weird is that the seller has 368 positive feedbacks yet only a rating of 4.

Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 584 ) on Mar-01-08 at 22:17:51 PST   Listings
NOIP, it's not stamp related, but I saw this on another board

is this the record for negs given and received in one day? LOL. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=starr9954&ftab=AllFeedback

! !
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1478 ) on Mar-01-08 at 19:20:07 PST   Listings

Jim L.
member
Posted by nomad55   ( 963 ) on Mar-01-08 at 17:41:05 PST   Listings
Thank you so much!
I was not even sure I had spelled the last word correctly.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Mar-01-08 at 17:39:47 PST   Listings
Don't know about leap year but I will leaped for joy when I saw that I won a very nice 1 Dec 1923 part cash paid Inland distance registered letter. The cover is first day of rate and also first day of the new Renten Pfennig currency being introduced.
Bear with me for explaining the rate again to those that don't know how it was calculated.

Letter Fee 100 Milliarden Marks
Reg'Fee 200 Milliarden Marks
Total 300 Milliarden or 30 Rpf (Renten Pfennigs)

Cover is franked with 40 Milliarden and the 260 hand written beside the boxed Gebür Bezahlt (=cash paid) cancel tells us that the remainder of the rate due, 260 Milliarden was paid in cash. Such part cash paid frankings from December are certainly not common.
Posted by putney32   ( 1863 ) on Mar-01-08 at 17:36:16 PST   Listings
Nomad.. FOR WAR WOUNDED / DAMAGED
Posted by nomad55   ( 963 ) on Mar-01-08 at 17:32:12 PST   Listings
Can someone help with the translation on this Germania stamp overprint?
"for war...(something)"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/nomad55/Germanoverprint.jpg?t=1204421366
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-01-08 at 16:09:50 PST   Listings
Nick… There are some pretty racy naked ladies on those stamps. Maybe that stirred up the frenzy…

Jim
Posted by nomad55   ( 963 ) on Mar-01-08 at 16:03:16 PST   Listings
Received my leap day cancels earlier today.
San Francisco and Oakland.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-01-08 at 16:01:01 PST   Listings
Iomoon… Point taken!

Also, I think that for the entire Muslim world, Sunday is not a holiday, but the first day of the workweek.

Jim
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-01-08 at 15:56:57 PST   Listings
I therefore accordingly modificated my page content at that regard.
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-01-08 at 15:53:08 PST   Listings
P.S. :

I agree, without the fear that some arrogant fool will accuse me of misleading the community just on the base of my agreement to something, like it has happened recently (I also saved a few boards to disk) -- that is plain TOO MUCH --
with all of Bill Claghorn's points regarding the meeting topic.
I also got very soured up with the Swiss topic on this board. I won't speak about it here for a while.
Conversations on the Swiss topic are and will be in Italian (on another board).

Paolo
Posted by lloydstamps   ( 621 ) on Mar-01-08 at 15:47:24 PST   Listings
[press release]

AFDCS To Host Booth At Spring 2008 Mega-Event Show


The American First Day Cover Society will host a booth at the Spring 2008 Mega-Event Postage Stamp Show at Madison Square Garden in New York, March 6-9.



Available at the booth will be first day covers produced by the AFDCS, recent issues of its award-winning journal First Days, handbooks, flyers and membership applications.



Show hours are 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Thursday, Friday and Saturday and 10 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. on Sunday. Admission is free. (The booth may be closed during the U.S. first day ceremonies.)



The American First Day Cover Society, with more than 2300 members worldwide, promotes the study and collecting of FDCs, commemorative envelopes that serve as "birth certificates" for stamps. The stamps are affixed to the envelopes, and then postmarked on the first day they are available for sale.



The AFDCS was founded in 1955 and now has more than 48 chapters in the U.S. and Australia. Besides its annual convention, the AFDCS publishes reference materials, handbooks, produces its own first day covers (while encouraging members to produce their own), holds several auctions each year, and conducts the largest meeting and show dedicated to FDCs in the world. It also publishes the award-winning journal First Days eight times a year.



For more information about the AFDCS, visit its Web site at www.afdcs.org or write to the AFDCS at P.O. Box 16277, Tucson, AZ 85732, e-mail [email protected]
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Mar-01-08 at 15:36:33 PST   Listings
Jim (Iomoon),
I second your nomination of Peter (greenwave4u) for President ef the eUSC.
Greetings,
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Mar-01-08 at 14:55:10 PST   Listings
The next Sunday 29th of February should be in 2032.

I expect many of us posting today will not be around to celebrate it!!

There may not even be a postal service.

Jim L.

At one point all our local mail was going to El Paso and back (220 miles each way).
It seems that after about 2 months of that, due to complaints of receiving local mail in over a week, it was nixed.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1478 ) on Mar-01-08 at 14:28:40 PST   Listings
jaywild
That won’t be happening here in Rush County, Indiana. There’s no Sunday mail coming in or going out at all. The last delivery in the week is Saturday morning and the first delivery in the week is Monday morning. Several of the Post Offices in the smaller towns are locked up tight unless there’s a Postal employee working. Sure makes it hard on the people trying to get their mail.

iomoon
The only way you can get a Sunday postmark around here is if you’re in really good with a window clerk who will either back-date or pre-date your cover. There are no longer any machine cancels in the county. All mail must make a 50+ mile trip to Indianapolis and back before being delivered, even if it’s just across the street or next door.

Jim L.
Posted by kathmoon   ( 433 ) on Mar-01-08 at 14:27:15 PST   Listings
NOIP: Now that the auction has ended, can anyone tell me why it reached that price? Item # 190201390523. Sorry,I forgot to put the Item # in the earlier post. Nick
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Mar-01-08 at 14:16:32 PST   Listings
Jim and Bjorn

I stated "less likely to receive a cancel" on a Sunday.
Not that they were unlikely.
Obviously several countries have adopted the Gregorian Calendar since 1840.
Likewise it is only within the last few decades that letters have discontinued being serviced on Sundays.
Though some places (e.g., airports)still operate on Sundays.

An interesting, though unscientific, study of 2004 was related to Sunday 29th births in Utah.
Normally Sunday is a "slow day" for births, I guess doctors don't like working on Sundays.
However in February of 2004, more babies were born on Sunday 29th than any of the other Sundays of the month.
Maybe they were due to induced labor?

It is therefore credible that philatelic uses of Sunday February 29th might actually outweigh non-philatelic usages on non-Sunday February 29th's.
Posted by rclwa   ( 987 ) on Mar-01-08 at 14:09:34 PST   Listings
Hi all--

Sorry not to have been around. I've popped in quite a few times but only long enough to save the board to my thumb drive, and never seem to have time to post.

I made a nice Feb 29 cover for myself yesterday, as I had to send some valuable material to a friend. I registered and insured up to an amount to nicely justify solo use of the $16.25 stamp (the helicopter with a BRIDGE in the background) with only a 5c overpay! It will be in my collection eventually.

I have heard there is extant at least one nice Feb 29, 1848 cover bearing US #1 on it.

Yesterday I went around telling people the following:

My cousin celebrated his 30th birthday yesterday. Another cousin attended who is older, yet he is still in his 20s! How is this possible?

Solution: The statement can only be true if made on 2-29. The older person was born just after midnight, March 1, 1978, on the East coast. The younger one was born an hour or two later, but on the West coast BEFORE midnight, when it was still Feb 28! In a leap year, an extra day comes between their already reversed birthdays, so the older one is still 29 the day after the younger one's 30th birthday!

Bob in WA
Posted by bjornmu   ( 993 ) on Mar-01-08 at 14:01:27 PST   Listings
FEB 29 items:

An Australian cover, postmarked somewhere in Victoria 29 FEB 1949.

US postcard, postmarked SCIOTO, OHIO FEB 29 1907.

A Serbian court document, hand dated 29. February 1900 in Beograd. This is not an error; 1900 was actually a leap year in Serbia.

Sorry about the quality of the first two scans; I just used the ones provided by the seller.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 993 ) on Mar-01-08 at 14:00:13 PST   Listings
Heh, I've been to Yellowknife! One of many stops of my 2000 summer vacation.

iomoon, you forget that 1900 was a leap year in Russia and some other countries. 29 (and 30) Feb also existed in 1930 and 31 in the Soviet Union.
Posted by kathmoon   ( 433 ) on Mar-01-08 at 13:57:24 PST   Listings
NOIP: Now that the auction has ended, can someone tell me why it reached that price? I put it up because I was clearing out some stockbooks. Nick
Posted by theottawamike   ( 186 ) on Mar-01-08 at 13:30:25 PST   Listings
Jaywild - Yellowknife is one of those places I'd like to visit if I ever get around to doing the 'round the country driving trip I've been thinking about for years.
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 995 ) on Mar-01-08 at 13:26:53 PST   Listings
iomoon

Thanks for the list of possible leap year dates, I have printed it out and will make use of it in the future as I also collect clear dates on Hungarian stamps from 1871 to 1920.

lluehhhb Hello Milenko, I see that Alec has answered your question regarding the Budapest cancel on German stamps! It's good he did, I wouldn't have been able to come up with an answer! Goes to show that you can learn something new each day! Thanks Alec! Good detecting!

Jimbo2
Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Mar-01-08 at 13:24:59 PST   Listings
it was not unusual for the postmaster to drive a parcel delivery out to him on a Sunday.

Did he usually do that about supper time?
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-01-08 at 13:24:07 PST   Listings
Ottawa Mike… I always thought “Yellowknife” was one of the neatest town names in the world. The pictures it conjures are quite interesting.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-01-08 at 13:19:04 PST   Listings
NOIP… I’ll stick my 2¢ in on the “Feb 29th” topic…

For practically all of the 19th Century Sundays and holidays were not really observed as they are now. Certainly this is true of the United States, and to some extent true of other countries. It is relatively easy to find items with 19th Century Christmas cancels etc. I have all the Sunday October 5th cancels from the 19th Century, and they weren’t any harder to find than those from other days of the week.

The cultural significance of holidays increased as rights for workers were expanded throughout the 20th Century. However it is still possible to get some mail service in small towns on Sundays. My late father lived in Wickenburg Arizona his last few years, and it was not unusual for the postmaster to drive a parcel delivery out to him on a Sunday.

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Mar-01-08 at 12:51:24 PST   Listings
Jimbo, the Jaffa arrival on the reverse looks like 22nd. February which would make the Beirut date 20th. February not 29th.,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Mar-01-08 at 12:46:12 PST   Listings
Jimbo

Looks like PO in Beirut forgot to advance their datestamp to March 1st.
Posted by theottawamike   ( 186 ) on Mar-01-08 at 12:39:52 PST   Listings
Stamps-4-ever - Sorry to hear your experience has been worse than mine with Canada Post. I stand by my assertion. I had a purchase relatively recently on eBay that took two days to arrive in my box from Yellowknife.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Mar-01-08 at 12:33:47 PST   Listings
Milenko

Yes that is the outward half.

I have difficulty reading the old script also but from what I can make out it is a request by someone who was seeking invalidity insurance payout. The insurer don't believe the claimant and demand he sees a Dr. Without medical proof no payout will be made.

I don't know if the limit on words applied at that time to commercial postcards. Hope the little info helps .
Posted by jimbo   ( 429 ) on Mar-01-08 at 12:15:14 PST   Listings
Leap Year

Here are three 29th of February covers.
Connecticut probably 1864
German Post Office in Beirut 1907
Morocco first flight 1928

jimbo
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 347 ) on Mar-01-08 at 11:56:32 PST   Listings
Alec

Thanks! that makes sense.

I got another of these reply cards here:
front and back.

Since it says "Mit Antwortkarte", I guess this is the firs half of the card, right? the other half should say just "Antwortkarte"?

Well, this one was sent at Printed matter rate (altough there is some writting in the back, there were a limit in the amount of writing or not?). There's a rate for this (Drucksachen in Kartenform), but I wonder if a Printed matter card with reply was considered...

Also, I'd really like to know what's the message of that card. I can figure out some words but not the context.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Mar-01-08 at 11:32:57 PST   Listings
Milenko The German stamps were applied because it is the reply half ," Antwortkarte" of a postcard.
Posted by de66   ( 1203 ) on Mar-01-08 at 10:58:10 PST   Listings
IO

You forgot the Tea Lady

A position i have held from 1999-2007 which makes me the longest running committee member.

D1
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 347 ) on Mar-01-08 at 10:56:09 PST   Listings
Hungaryjim

Do you know something about this postcard?

The postcard rate from Germany to Hungary was 10 Rpf, but this one was set from Budapest to Germany with 10 Rpf in german stamps, and apparently they were accepted at the german rate...
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Mar-01-08 at 09:46:42 PST   Listings
In view of Alec's decline of the position, I would like to nominate Peter (greenwave4u) for President.

For the benefit of new members, the following is a list of past (and current) presidents:

1999 Greg Ioannou (Canada) - g.1
2000 Jim Whitford-Stark (Brit in Texas) - iomoon
2001 Jeff Lindstedt (USA) - cableguy52
2002 Paolo Bagaglia (Italian in the Netherlands) - vonbag
2003 Roger Heath (ex-Brit in Hawaii) - malolo
2004 Ann Burson-Tolpin (USA) - abt1950
2005 Marius Wytenburg (Australia) - stampmad
2006 Bjorn Munch (Norway) - bjornmu
2007 Mitchell Ward (USA) - antonius-ra
Posted by billsey   ( 890 ) on Mar-01-08 at 09:33:23 PST   Listings
I'm willing to continue my stint as EA for eUSC.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Mar-01-08 at 09:04:49 PST   Listings
1844 1848 1852(Sunday) 1856 1860 1864 1868 1872 1876 1880(Sunday) 1884 1888 1892 1896 1904 1908 1912 1916 1920(Sunday) 1924 1928 1932 1936 1940 1944 1948(Sunday) 1952 1956 1960 1964 1968 1972 1976(Sunday) 1980 1984 1988 1992 1996 2000 2004(Sunday) 2008
Posted by bwiphilately   ( 393 ) on Mar-01-08 at 09:03:47 PST   Listings
Not a Feb. 29 cancel, but a Feb. 29 wreck documented on a cover
On Feb. 29, 1896, the British steamer Ailsa sank in the Verrazano Narrows of New York after colliding in thick fog with a French steamer. Mail on board the Ailsa was recovered by divers.
This rather tattered cover from Watkins, New York to Old Harbour, Jamaica bears a Jamaica G.P.O. label indicating the cover's recovery from the Feb. 29 wreck. Here is a scan of the cover front. Unfortunately, the stamp appears to have floated away in New York Harbor.
Note: Unlike some covers put up for sale on eBay last year by a certain Middle Eastern dealer, this cover does not bear any "Immersed in Seawater" of "Damaged by Seawater" handstamps.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 414 ) on Mar-01-08 at 08:54:20 PST   Listings
Expertizing

Another venue I use is the local Bourse. Pick a time, like Sunday morning, when a known dealer is not busy. Many of the dealers at major shows are on expert committees anyway. Show them your stamps and they will not only tell you "if the item is worth submitting for a cert" but they will also tell you why. Most dealers are willing to teach also and feel good about passing on the knowledge. If you ask it that way, they are usually glad to help.
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 995 ) on Mar-01-08 at 08:53:13 PST   Listings
Hi All:

Regarding Leap Year cancellations; There may be only 40 dates to collect as the year 1900 was not a leap year!

Jimbo2
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Mar-01-08 at 08:49:16 PST   Listings
Mitch and Jim L Many thanks for the nomination but as my work schedule is often so very hectic I must decline to be in the running for any Eusc position. I also over this next year will be extremely busy with exhibiting and that alone will take up a great amount of my time.
I do feel very honoured though to have been nominated. Maybe one day when I retire I will have the time spare to devote to more philatelic matters.

Is there anyone else out there who would would be willing to stand for nomination ? I can think of a couple of names but won't name them as I feel any such position should be on a voluntary basis and I don't know what commitments others may have similar to my own.

Time permitting I will later try to explain how one can send material to Germany for expertizing. If I don't post within the next 3-4 hours or so perhaps Rainer or someone else who knows how the German expertizing system works can step in and help.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 414 ) on Mar-01-08 at 08:45:58 PST   Listings
Meeting Topic

Expertizing

In my opinion there are only four reasons to expertize:

1) You aere exhibiting and need proof the item is as you say.
2) You eventually want to sell and need proof the item is genuine.
3) You bought something and want proof.
4) You just want to be sure for bragging rights or to learn.

Expertixing is expensive and generally not necessary except for the above.

What is more important is research. Money can be much better spent on a good research library in your area of specialty. That way you can not only expertize your own material. As an added bonus you can also find hidden treasures using your superior knowledge of the subject.

People like Bill W. and Richard F. can issue informal certs for little money to verify/confirm items. It is even better to know the subject yourself. You can save a lot of expertizing cert rejects that way and find better material.

Just my two cents.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Mar-01-08 at 08:36:39 PST   Listings
A slight correction to Mitchell's calculation.

There have been 41 leap days since stamps were issued.

February 29th, 1840 doesn't count since stamps weren't issued till May 6th.

Furthermore, I calculate that six of those leap days have been a Sunday and therefore less likely to have received a cancel.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1055 ) on Mar-01-08 at 07:53:57 PST   Listings
kumara503… In order to sell successfully on eBay you need to be able to communicate well. This is especially important for describing your material, otherwise no one will be able to find it. I see that you are located in Australia, so I would gently encourage you to find someone with good English skills to help you set up your auctions and review them for spelling errors before posting them.

Jim
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 145 ) on Mar-01-08 at 05:11:11 PST   Listings
I fully disagree with "theottawamike", I know probably from his username that he as well as myself is probably from Ottawa. But he says that is takes only 2 days to arrive, I challenge his theory as being utter nonsense. I had one Ebayer tell me they did not get their payment till 21 days after I sent it. I do not know how well this person knows Canada Post but I have never had anything delivered from anywhere in two days not even a bill. He can threaten the Maple Leaf or the beaver and I still don't beleive that he has had his mail delivered in two days.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1478 ) on Mar-01-08 at 03:21:58 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


antonius-ra
Bad sectors in the old hard drive kept locking up the system. So, hooking it up ended up being a no-go. Transferring data from the old hard drive seems to have been beyond the staff at the local computer store. They kept the old PC for parts. I’ve spent a good part of the night re-loading and updating software and will be spending the greater part of today and most of my free time for the next several days loading fonts. :8^( It’s not much fun, but it has to be done before I’ll be able to use my backed up files. This says nothing about the bookmarks I’ve lost. I’m doubtful I’ll be able to relocate them all. I hope that my email friends don’t wait for me to send them a reply, their addresses are also gone. Hopefully I’ll remember to print a hard copy of my address book in about six months.

I’ll second the nominations for Infla-Alec & Bill Seymour as Pres. & executive assistant.

Jim L.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-01-08 at 01:01:51 PST   Listings
My nomination for President is Infla-Alec. He has proven to be a very even minded and valued contributor to the club.
My nomination for executive assistant is Bill Seymour
(I think perhaps his post is somewhat of a "death till we part" deal) He is the keeper of record and I wish him to stay that, until he decides to step down.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-01-08 at 00:49:56 PST   Listings


Ebay Users Stamp Club Meeting

For February 2008 is now in session

(yes I know I'm a bit late starting it)


The meetings topic will focus on the grading and expertizing of stamps and philatelic items.

Also since it is leap year, I thought it might be interesting to show Feb 29th cancels.

When you think about it these are quite scarce.

Since the first stamp was issued there have been only 42 days of cancelling that have bore this day, out of nearly 61,000 days.

Also we will be nominating members for the new board of directors for the EUSC.
The positions will be APS representative, Media relations officer, Executive assistant and President.

Voting will take place during the next meeting that will start on MArch 21st.

Please note that any nominations for or by non members will be invalid, but noted without further comment.





Mitchell

El presidente'
Posted by bjornmu   ( 993 ) on Feb-29-08 at 23:59:55 PST   Listings
I haven't noticed any general problem in mail from Canada, but it looked to me like the post office in Hamilton, Ontario was exceptionally slow in getting letters out a few years ago.

It doesn't help when the seller is also very slow and unresponsive...
Posted by de66   ( 1203 ) on Feb-29-08 at 22:47:26 PST   Listings
APF meet in Melbourne this weekend, no wonder the pres is not answering his emails, i am sure they will be well tanked up by now.
Posted by de66   ( 1203 ) on Feb-29-08 at 22:46:09 PST   Listings
Lyndal

Yes i am aware of the regulation but i have not lost one yet [touch wood]. I always tell the buyer it is a signed for package only with a possible $100 compensation if lost.

D1
Posted by theottawamike   ( 186 ) on Feb-29-08 at 22:30:02 PST   Listings
Ah, Canada bashing. The great international pastime. What a way to unify the board! Well, we can take it, but don't push us too far. Remember, the symbol of our nation is the maple leaf, and if you tempt fate too much, well, ... we may just dry up and blow away. Of course, we could just sic the beaver on ya, too!


Anyway, it's interesting that within the country, mail sevice is excellent. In my own experience, it's rare that it takes more than two days to arrive. Faster, if its a bill.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Feb-29-08 at 22:08:29 PST   Listings
I did actually recieve my stamp shipment from Canada today.
Only took 11 days from Quebec after the seller got round to sending them. I complained about the $25.00 shipping he charged me before they were sent. He said he had no control over the cost as that was what postal charged him. Hmmm, looking at the packet reciept it says the charges were $8.55. I'm putting that guy on my blocked sellers list.

Bill D. Hopefully I can get some goodies out to you in the near future.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Feb-29-08 at 21:50:49 PST   Listings
Jim Lawler When I got my new Dell PC I had the same problem. All of the wiring connectors were totally different. I wanted to add my old hard drive to the system but it was not possible. I did find the solution though and am very happy with it. I got a ADS USB external hard drive kit. Cost about a $100.00 (at Best Buy), put my old 60 gig hard drive in it, plugged it in to a USB port and bingo anew external drive with all my old stuff. As I had two hardrives in the old system I transferred everything off the othe drive I needed into the one I kept.
Another kewl thing about it is you can take the external drive anywhere and plug it into anyone elses system or your laptop.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 584 ) on Feb-29-08 at 21:37:05 PST   Listings
Kumara.. if you are trying to list your items from
ebay.com
and not
ebay.com.au

you cannot find Australia POst

just check at your local post office for the latest shipping rates booklet and enter that figure.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1478 ) on Feb-29-08 at 21:21:09 PST   Listings
stamphick

THANKS MUCH! That's the program that I wanted. :8^ )

Jim L.
Posted by squidwillow   ( 1092 ) on Feb-29-08 at 20:49:37 PST   Listings
kumara503 - if it's asking you to post your shipping charges, just enter a fair amount, one that covers your shipping expenses
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 414 ) on Feb-29-08 at 20:37:12 PST   Listings
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Posted by kumara503   ( 0 ) on Feb-29-08 at 20:23:39 PST   Listings
i wont to sell my stamps. when i go to shipping part i cant find Ausralia post. what i do?
Posted by 22028   ( 1691 ) on Feb-29-08 at 20:05:45 PST   Listings
My track records for mail from Canada to UAE is pretty good, usually 5-10 days..., registered mail. OK, one letter took almost 5 weeks to arrive but that one was address to the United States Emirates, but has arrived.
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Feb-29-08 at 19:33:36 PST   Listings
A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL!!
Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Feb-29-08 at 19:13:59 PST   Listings
Irfanview free image editor.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 584 ) on Feb-29-08 at 19:05:23 PST   Listings
Dave E. registered letters..Yes, but no Insurance, and NO Insured parcels or packets to Canada.
and...if you read the small print on the Registered Letter rulings you will see those envelopes are for correspondence and printed matter only... not goods. I know for a fact they will not compensate you for stamps or postal history mailed in those envelopes.
Linda
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1478 ) on Feb-29-08 at 18:50:39 PST   Listings
Greetings,

Finally got a computer at home. But the store was unable to move any software or files off the old harddrive. So, I'd be greatful if some of you out there would share the freeware photo management software you use. What I had is gone...

Thanks for your time,

Jim L.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8887 ) on Feb-29-08 at 17:56:39 PST   Listings
stamps4ever,

according to Robson Lowe,

Note, Authorized for postal use to cover an unexpected shortage of 5c. postage stamps bewteen 11th. & 21st. January 1938 The ink used is highly sensitive to moisture. The PO held a small stock of Mult. CA watermark some of which were issued, they are somewhat scarce.

Gibbons states 11th to 20th. January and doesn't mention the Multiple CA only the Script CA,

David B.
Posted by tedkenneth   ( 296 ) on Feb-29-08 at 17:22:30 PST   Listings
DE66;
surpriseingly - everytime i have recvd something from New Zealand or Australia it takes no more than a week ( +/- day)
good places to buy from - LOL - as long as u buy in au and not euro. LOL
ted :-)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Feb-27-08 at 19:57:07 PST   Listings
E U S C
Ebay Users Stamp Club Meeting


Announcement


The EUSC meeting for February 2008 will commence at 12:00 Midnight February 29th (ebay time) and end midnight March 2nd.

The meetings topic will focus on the grading of stamps, expertizing and related areas.
Members are invited and encouraged to share their knowledge.

As we have a leap year here It would be fun to see some sharing of Feb 29th cancels.



Happy Stampin,

Mitchell aka Antonius Ra

President EUSC
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-27-08 at 19:42:34 PST   Listings
JAYWILD -----You can get a job giving financial advice on T.V.---------Your over excited after the storm hits and you give vague market advice that can mean alot of different things so your never wrong .

CASH will be king in 2008 ,it will give the high risk investor like me room to rock and roll .For most older philatelist the safes place is cash right now.

Posted by abelstamps   ( 1583 ) on Feb-27-08 at 18:45:53 PST   Listings
Thanks jaywild.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-27-08 at 18:26:00 PST   Listings
Paul� I told you then, and I will tell you again. Going to cash in the current climate is for fools who don�t mind losing money.

Many, many securities that fall under the guidelines I outlined earlier today are excellent investments right now. Added to conservative option shepherding a comfortable double-digit realization can be earned. It requires study and diligent, dispassionate analysis to find these opportunities, so it�s not really surprising that you think having your money in cash is currently the way to go. You have a lot of company.

Jim
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-27-08 at 18:07:21 PST   Listings
JAYWILD-----Your a financial genius.......I really like your -------"IN MY VIEW A CATASTROPHE IS MAKING ITS WAY TOWARD US THROUGH THE FOG " thats brillant by why didn't you tell me last summer TO GO TO CASH then I could of sold my stock, my business,and real estate and gotten top dollar when the market was hitting highs ,why I would of locked in the high interest rates of 5.35%......oh why!!!! oh why !!!!!didn't someone tell me this last summer .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-27-08 at 17:59:02 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----Early China would be pre-1946 ,if I would of said Imperial China that would be pre-1897 .Thought I made it clear that most of it was the perfs,watermarks,and the many different overprints that most worldwide collectors never get around to make a decent collection of .It was a job to get it right and to go beyond the standard catalogs .Still got more to sort thru and describe .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-27-08 at 17:50:51 PST   Listings
de66 Last week I posted a note here that my account at e-bay was one chosen to try the new layout and it was such a mess for me .That I elected to go back to the old system .Now it looks like the new system is getting installed slowly across the whole community .
Posted by de66   ( 1201 ) on Feb-27-08 at 17:39:55 PST   Listings
Bay USA has stopped listing Australian States all my favourites have changed and i now get 'World' what a mix up, very frustrating why can't it be left alone.

D1
Posted by abelstamps   ( 1583 ) on Feb-27-08 at 16:54:33 PST   Listings
jaywild:
Many thanks. I look forward to receiving your message. I hope your dental experience is a painless one.
Posted by itemfs   ( 96 ) on Feb-27-08 at 16:04:06 PST   Listings
jaywild no need. Thanks for setting the record straight. I am more concern about the seller's reputation than anything else. Especially since he is truly one of the good guys.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-27-08 at 15:42:49 PST   Listings
itemfs� My sincere apologies are extended to you for thinking that your bidding pattern suggested shill bidding. I was wrong, it is as simple as that.

breffington... Thanks for the kind words. I doubt the Treasury Department would have a sensible use for me.



abelstamps... I will email you the message I got from that seller, but not right now. Right now I have to go get some dental work done.

Jim
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Feb-27-08 at 15:36:57 PST   Listings
A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL!!
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1474 ) on Feb-27-08 at 15:15:09 PST   Listings
bookmark
Posted by breffington   ( 406 ) on Feb-27-08 at 15:05:45 PST   Listings
Jaywild: What a pleasure to hear a person call out the flim flam artists and con men that created the house of cards our economy is swaying on. From Federal reporting numbers on job statistics that reduce the amount of people out of work by not counting job seekers who have given up looking and inflating the number of new jobs by what they' expect new businesses to create to a Consumer Price Index that leaves out key components of the everyday costs most of us pay.
Then they reduce the CPI by the added benefits of more powerful computers that have not gone up in price or factoring in lower light truck prices. I buy food, gas regularaly. Rarely do I buy electronics or light trucks. I think we should give Jim a crack at heading the Treasury Department.
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 91 ) on Feb-27-08 at 14:58:05 PST   Listings
Io - Um, er, ahem, it would appear to be so. Blame it on my husband! The whole thing was his idea.

He is loving driving around here - like California but wilder!

S2
Posted by itemfs   ( 96 ) on Feb-27-08 at 14:51:32 PST   Listings
To those who do not understand about buying & selling, I can assure you I am not shilling. This eBay ID has been long established before Droege even listed on eBay. I have been buying for years and not only from Droege. Regarding the timing of the snipes, I like 16 secs as I perfer not to missed a bid then care if someone comes and trumps me. Regarding feedback, after buying hundreds of lots from the same sellers, I pretty much stop leaving feedbacks nor expect any in return. Since this is only a buying account, I really no longer care about feedback.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-27-08 at 14:35:42 PST   Listings
If you put your money in platinum in mid January, it has since gone up $600 an ounce. Though today, looks like there has been a sell off.

S2

Have you become a snowbird?
Posted by abelstamps   ( 1583 ) on Feb-27-08 at 14:32:13 PST   Listings
you should be doing Please insert "doing" when reading my last posting.
Posted by abelstamps   ( 1583 ) on Feb-27-08 at 14:30:47 PST   Listings
jaywild: RE: Corporate America etc., you should be this type on commentary professionally. Nice job and I couldn't agree more.!

"He wrote me directly and explained everything I was concerned about (also available by scrolling down the board)" I can't find where you revealed the explanation you were told by the seller. Would you tell me the posting that I should be reading?
Thanks.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-27-08 at 14:15:08 PST   Listings
Roger & Lindy� I agree�hiding things relative to an auction only creates an aura of suspicion, and the entire traffic suffers as a result.

WARNING: COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC BORING PART AHEAD, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SKIP ENTIRELY, I WON�T FEEL SLIGHTED IN THE LEAST...

EBay�s main concern is maintaining an increase in revenue and income (this is the focus that investors routinely demand even though it is destroying companies right and left) and in their frantic quest of this aim they are micromanaging the life out of their core business. Gone are the days when a good idea created a solid business that yielded decent dividends to satisfy investors. Now the focus is all on the price of the company�s stock, which in a sensible world should reflect the current strength and future potential of the firm, but now has become merely a slavish reflection of what the figures for the most recent quarter showed. And since these figures are jiggered incessantly (most corporate board time is literally spent trying to wring an extra cent to stick on the bottom line) the price of the stock becomes an element in a fantasy. A perfect example of this ridiculous trend is yesterday�s announcement by IBM that it will use some of its hard-earned profit to buy back stock. Instead of distributing $15 billion to its stockholders as dividends, the money will go to no real purpose whatever. (The theory is that stock buybacks decrease the number of shares outstanding, therefore the price of the stock automatically adjusts upward to reflect this. However, this effect is entirely washed away the next time even a whisper of bad news attaches itself to the company�thus, the $15 billion might has well have been flung out a window for all the good it will do.)

Here�s a stock market prediction, that will differ from those coming from the other well-known market predictor here in that it forecasts future events rather than claims to have done so after these events have already taken place.



The current rabid obsession with stock price and only stock price as indicator of a good investment will die a very hard death within the next couple years. These few bedrock principles�low debt, low P/E ratio, solid dividends (high yield), and steady future projections of earnings�which used to govern how investments were made, will once again gain the whip hand among the investing public. (Wall Street, being Wall Street, will continue doing what it is doing, which will however become less and less relevant to the rest of us as time goes on.)

Also, it was nice to see a realistic picture of inflation as illustrated by the producer price figures released yesterday, which point to a minimum of 12% inflation rate underlying the economy, which is a lot truer picture than the lofty cotton-candy picture which the Fed has been spooling out over the past year or so. Even yet there are mutinies within the Fed. The Dallas bank now gauges inflation based on a mean averaging technique that reflects reality much more than the laughable CPI, whose formulas examine and dispense with all price increases it doesn�t want to acknowledge. As a result the head of the Dallas bank revealed yesterday that he voted against the recent interest rate cuts, feeling (quite justifiably so, in my opinion) that inflation is a far worse threat than rescuing hedge funds from the morass they have created for themselves, which is the stampede the rest of the Fed is blindly following at the moment. In my view a catastrophe is making its way toward us through the fog, although what shape it will ultimately take is anybody�s guess.

Jim
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 91 ) on Feb-27-08 at 14:12:19 PST   Listings
�Hola! Just dropping by from sunny Mazatl�n. We're staying in an apartment across from the post office sorting building. In the next couple of days I'll try posting a letter and see if it gets to Oz.

This morning we went on a tour through the Pacifico brewery. It's free and they let you have samples at the end. The view of the city from the top of the tower (harbour, cruise ships, beaches, islands, etc) was impressive. May have to do it again some time.....

Billsey - Thanks for your email and reminder that stamps and this place still exist. 8-)

S2
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-27-08 at 13:28:38 PST   Listings
Duncan� You were exactly right�I should listen to you more often!! The �dedicated buyer� was indeed a dealer, who the seller identified personally. I was wrong, and I sent an apology to the dealer for having doubted him.

abelstamps... I don�t want to identify the seller directly on the board, because even though he has come through blameless in this situation I don�t want any taint to settle on him through inference. If you scroll back down the board you can find out who it was. He wrote me directly and explained everything I was concerned about (also available by scrolling down the board) to my complete satisfaction, and I�m not easily satisifed.



Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 584 ) on Feb-27-08 at 13:12:46 PST   Listings
I'm hoping that is not the case Roger, but yes, quite possibly!
I have about 30 auctions running under my other id this week and 8 of them have bids already, so its looking like it always has for me, hopefully that will continue!.

Bidding is slow on my mini*lindy lots, but they are never as popular as my other ID. On that one I usually have about 75% clearance rate on first time listing.
Linda
Posted by malolo   ( 877 ) on Feb-27-08 at 13:08:29 PST   Listings
Lindy -
And that policy will lead to a decline in bidding. I rarely see "Private Auctions" on eBay Germany any more. they used to be very popular with the reaason given to protect shy collectors. I guess eBay's anonymity policy got rid of thenecessity to have private auctions, but the carry over is reduced bidding, in my humble opinion!

Roger
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 584 ) on Feb-27-08 at 12:58:36 PST   Listings
Bjorn, eBay Australia now hides bids from ALL bidders, right down to the .99c lots. You can only see Bidder 1, Bidder 2 etc. They brought that ruling in starting this week.
You can no longer check on a bidder on your auctions (seller can see his ID), to see what else he/she is bidding on this week, which I sometimes found useful.
Maybe eBay USA is going to trial this system too?

You wont need anonymous IDs soon on eBay as all will be 'hidden'

Linda
Posted by abelstamps   ( 1583 ) on Feb-27-08 at 12:49:00 PST   Listings
jaywild:
What exactly was the seller's response to: "I have contacted the seller to see what he has to say." that convinced you "unequivocally that I believe there was no shilling going on"? I hate mysteries.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8872 ) on Feb-27-08 at 12:48:54 PST   Listings
Paul,

while you are there, define EARLY CHINA, it has various meanings, I take it to mean prior 1897 but you may have another definition,

David B.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 991 ) on Feb-27-08 at 12:40:28 PST   Listings
Speaking of anonymized bidders: Huh, since when does $6.50 constitute a "higher-priced item>"??? Ths other bidder's name did show before I placed my snipe. This is getting stupid.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Feb-27-08 at 12:38:28 PST   Listings
Paul The GPS philatelic dictionary is not perfect because in my opinion there are far too many non philatelic translations and some have been translated wrongly. However that said for a non German speaker it should prove very useful.
Before buying do bear in mind it only translates from German - English and not vice versa.

Paulo Do you happen to know of any big stamp shows taking place in Italy this year ? If so where and when please. A trip to your homeland is a possibility and if possible I'd like to sort of "accidentaly" stumble across a show. :-)
Posted by dbenson   ( 8872 ) on Feb-27-08 at 12:24:12 PST   Listings
Paul,

" Still working on early China ,must have 40 hours into it all ready but it looks nice all layed out on about 45 pages ,maybe another 5 pages before its done :

want to show some of them,

David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 877 ) on Feb-27-08 at 12:12:23 PST   Listings
Aloha -
Here's one happy seller and the auction has three days to go! My guess is that this stamp would have sold a couple of years ago for under $50. Timing is everything, and of course, the anonimity of bidding should cause a hesitation for both seller and other buyers. I have no doubt the seller is clean.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=190200692639

Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-27-08 at 09:55:35 PST   Listings
Awakened by blaring sirens this morning.
Seems a train derailed just outside of town and is leaking tetrahydrofurane.
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 136 ) on Feb-27-08 at 08:54:23 PST   Listings
Thanks for the update on the "dedicated customer", Jim.

When looking for a common thread for the buyer's bids, it occurred to me that he (or she) might be a dealer, or at least a sharp bargain hunter.

After all, you and Jeff were both bidders, and you guys are pretty sharp about knowing the value of the items. Plus, I see he was competing against Bill W, who won two or three lots too, so he was definitely finding bargains.

Was my hunch close?

-----------

PS: Hiya to Paul, the "paranoid investment policeman" who makes sure we all know how to guard our money. I'm just kidding of course, Paul. I value your comments just like everyone else's. I'm not sure if the financial sky is falling, or if instead the earth is rising up to meet it, but at least with the dollar in decline our stamp collections are worth more in the world wide marketplace, eh?

Save your pennies from 1981 and earlier, they are worth more than face value for copper. Who says a penny is not worth anything today?

-Dunc
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Feb-27-08 at 07:51:42 PST   Listings
P.S.: and, unlike most, I do hold grudges!

Ciao, Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Feb-27-08 at 07:48:21 PST   Listings
Howdy Jeff,
Many thanks, my postal address is public (also on internet):
"Paolo Bagaglia
Plesmanstraat 279,
3769HJ Soesterberg
The Netherlands (NL)"


To NOIP, in order to mend the wrong information regurgitated by the one:
I collect Italy and Italian Area from 1976. The last twelve years I have deepened into the first three Dutch Issues, then abandoned that field.
I was the President Of the eBay Users' Stamp Club from 2002 to 2003.
I am member of Filitalia Study Group from about 1999, of ASPOT(= ~ Association for the Study of Tuscan Postal History), etc., and I am affiliate and actively participate in various other Stamp Forums, all of which in the Italian language, and most of which composed of friends who gather to discuss about philatelic matters in a polite way and where self criticism is the unspoken but applied rule by the most.
Further information around my collecting and other interests can be found in my page.
I put politeness ahead to compensate to my relative ignorance on the vast Philatelic subject of Adhesive Postage Stamps and Postal History of my interest.
I expect exactly the same in return.

Kind regards,
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3917 ) on Feb-27-08 at 07:10:31 PST   Listings

Paolo - I still need your postal address.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Feb-27-08 at 06:54:18 PST   Listings
comrade666...If you like to email it to eusc at dospalos.org I'll post it for you.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-27-08 at 06:42:11 PST   Listings
Then again we got one who has been collecting ITALY for two years and Switzerland for two weeks and they can already claim to issue their own expert certificates .
Posted by comrade666   ( 1305 ) on Feb-27-08 at 06:37:31 PST   Listings
Hello,
I have no place to store the image. Do you have any ideas on how I can post an image?

Thanks!

Dave
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Feb-27-08 at 06:35:12 PST   Listings
1106,
... and here, on this board, you get at least one total insolent idiot amongst the community which normally was serene and exchanged pieces of information with care, without pretentious statements, without offending, without giving wrong pieces of advice totally out of the blue, without misreading purposely, without second filthy intentions aimed at putting itself in evidence (as a fool), and without bragging.

Kind regards,
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-27-08 at 06:23:59 PST   Listings
NOIP----Still working on early China ,must have 40 hours into it all ready but it looks nice all layed out on about 45 pages ,maybe another 5 pages before its done .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-27-08 at 06:20:09 PST   Listings
1106 Your right we got all kinds of paranoia police here.We got e-bay police who think its their right to tell others how to list their item,where to sell their items and how much to charge for shipping .

We also got police here who don't think someone can call the financial markets .

We also got the spelling police who need to correct those who spell differently .

We even have the RIGHT-WAY to collect police ,who need to tell others how they should collect.

It all can be summed up as --------to many people here have too much free time on their hands ........paul

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-27-08 at 06:10:20 PST   Listings
ALEC Your right ,I think I painted myself into a corner with German terminology,not something that should of been done.But not to let it rest im going to order the GPS{American -German Philatelic Society } dictionary of philatelic terms .Also thanks for the intelligent respond ,its a little more than what is expected on this chat room so I salute you on that .....paul
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-26-08 at 23:14:02 PST   Listings
All & Sundry� I have heard from the seller whose auctions went to the �dedicated customer� and I can say unequivocally that I believe there was no shilling going on.

Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-26-08 at 20:28:40 PST   Listings
comrade666

There are several people on the board that can translate.
Just post an image.
I'm going to bed right now, so my contribution may take a while.
Posted by comrade666   ( 1305 ) on Feb-26-08 at 20:08:34 PST   Listings
Hello,
I have an item that I would like to get an opinion on. It is a 1928 cover with Japanese stamps that may have been used in Korea. I do not understand Japanese. Is there someone out there who can translate the cancel for me? I can send a scan of the cover. Thanks!!

Comrade666
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-26-08 at 19:30:17 PST   Listings
NOIP� This is the hat Nader has thrown into the ring.



Jim
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Feb-26-08 at 19:26:23 PST   Listings
Io Don't dispair,....we count on you for snide swipes at the Royals, to be our live volcanic activity warning system, and to serve as central authority on making sense of PVI's.

Philately usually rewards its pioneers. Once we tire of the bland acronym, they'll likely be called "Whitford-Stark stickers"

You have to admit....it has a nice alliteral ring to it ;o)
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-26-08 at 19:05:39 PST   Listings
Jimbo2

I can't vote, so already have electile dysfunction.
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 992 ) on Feb-26-08 at 18:43:20 PST   Listings
iomoon

Hi Jim, There is a "alternative choice" for you to consider regarding the 2008 election! NADER has thrown has hat in the ring again!

Jimbo2
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-26-08 at 18:22:02 PST   Listings
lonestarlady� I�m not aware of any postal marking similar to the seal impression you describe. A guess? Someone used that postcard to test the device that impressed that seal. A key factor I think is the date of the postmark cancel (1902) and the date on the seal (1927) which seems to eliminate that the two could have a real connection. Can you post a link to a scan of the card?

Jim
Posted by lonestarlady53   ( 170 ) on Feb-26-08 at 17:44:44 PST   Listings
Greetings! I am going through my grandmother's old stamp collection, and have run across a postal card type UX14 that is postmarked 1902, but it has an embossed seal dated 1927 which states mething like " _______aphy Correspondence School, Inc" and "Corporate Delaware Seal". Can anyone shed any light on this for me?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-26-08 at 17:23:17 PST   Listings
Another addition to the dictionary:

Electile Dysfunction: the inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president put forth by either party in the 2008 election year in the USA.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-08 at 16:58:01 PST   Listings
1106

at least it is a new discusion
and sometimes reasonable explanations are great learning tools for neophytes like me.
Posted by 1106   ( 7216 ) on Feb-26-08 at 16:46:38 PST   Listings
The paranoia police are out!! Bid higher!! He's bid on less then 10% of the sellers auctions, $1.50 items, oh yeah there is some profit there..

"I think it�s perfectly appropriate to try and get to the bottom of it."

Of course you would....
Posted by 1covers   ( 1375 ) on Feb-26-08 at 16:25:57 PST   Listings
I didn't say that I thought such activity was kosher, just explaining that not all "shill" bidders bid more than one (and I have no knowledge of what happened in the case under discussion). Some public auction houses implement their reserve as though they were legitimate bids on the book.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-26-08 at 16:23:10 PST   Listings
Richard F� If the seller (or an associate) is bidding on his own eBay lots that is against eBay policy, and is defined as shilling. If the purpose is to enter a �house bid�, i.e. establish a reserve without paying eBay reserve auction charges, then that is also against eBay policy, falling under �fee avoidance�, the thing eBay dislikes most of all.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-26-08 at 15:46:06 PST   Listings
NOIP� One more curiosity�for all the lots the �dedicated buyer� won from that one seller, the seller has left no feedback for any of them. Now why would that be?

I have contacted the seller to see what he has to say.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-26-08 at 15:33:30 PST   Listings
Duncan� These are the things I saw which set off alarm bells�

1. All bids from this buyer were on items from a single seller.
2. There is no pattern whatever to the material�Finland, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, US revenues, essays to name a very few.
3. No feedback left by buyer for almost two years, despite a flurry of recent �wins�.
4. The snipe bids were set for sixteen seconds. While not necessarily suspicious in itself, nobody I know who snipes allows so much time for another bid to be entered. If however the purpose is to stimulate another bidder to trump your bid, then 16 seconds is just about the ideal amount of time to give them.

I do agree with you that it is wise to wait for final judgment, however it was the kind mention of this pattern by another poster that drew my attention to it. If I have been the victim of a shill, I think it�s perfectly appropriate to try and get to the bottom of it.

Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-26-08 at 15:25:30 PST   Listings
I thought it was just a series of "house" bids.

K-E

When you've climbed to the top of a +14,000 ft peak, you don't forget it.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1375 ) on Feb-26-08 at 15:22:48 PST   Listings
One way that auctioneers (public and ebay) implement a reserve is to bid once at some stage in the bidding process at the reserve level. Shill? Depends on the definition.
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 136 ) on Feb-26-08 at 15:00:14 PST   Listings
To Jim and Jeff, about the "dedicated customer"...

There are a few interesting things to note about that bidder.

First, he doesn't bid like a shill. His bids are snipe bids, with sixteen seconds or less remaining on the auctions, and he only bids once on an item. In other words, he bids to win. A shill would normally bid early, to show interest in the items, and to give others a chance to raise the bid.

Second, the start price vs the sale price often is not out of line. Quite often, a shill "pays his way" by allowing a seller to post vey low start prices, then the shill pushes up the true start price by bidding, which cheats eBay out of part of the cost of listing. that doesn't seem to be happening in this case.

Third, it is also possible that the bidder really does feel confident in the seller.

Plus he could keep the cost of shipping down to a manageable level by doing his buying from one source.

However he does bid on a wide range of items - usually when I've seen a questionable series of bids concentrated on one seller's auctions, if the bids are legitimate there's some common thread tying them all together. It might be topical, or one country, or postal history, but usually there is an obvious link.

At first glance, I thought there was a possible clever shill pattern that involved snipe bidding but only on the items that already had received earlier bids. But on close examination there is more reason to suspect that the buyer really has just cruised the seller's offerings and (probably) set a bunch of automated snipes.

As abelstamps says, it is going to be interesting.

-Dunc
Posted by dbenson   ( 8872 ) on Feb-26-08 at 14:47:36 PST   Listings
re dedicated customer,

let Ebay investigate and make it's mind up and found him innocent then it is time to comment.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some visits to this board soon from the parties concerned, it doesn't take long for them to find out,

David B.
Posted by abelstamps   ( 1583 ) on Feb-26-08 at 13:51:12 PST   Listings
This: "dedicated customer??>" is going to be interesting.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-26-08 at 13:33:33 PST   Listings
Jeff S� The seller is Tom Droege, and he has some association with Nutmeg. Whatever eBay does I will email him and try to get an answer directly from him as to what�s going on.

Jim
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3917 ) on Feb-26-08 at 13:28:32 PST   Listings

Jim - there is a file shill bidding link. Can list up to 10 lots by item number. (couldn't just cut and paste his buying record) I filled it all in. We'll see.
Seller has been around a long time and has a high profile.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-26-08 at 13:15:58 PST   Listings
NOIP� Today�s Updated Scoresheet�

THE WORLD:                                                       7,845,071
CHICAGO GLOBAL WARMING SOURCE:          0

(Just kidding�)



Jim
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3917 ) on Feb-26-08 at 13:15:31 PST   Listings

Jim - alas, looks pretty blatant to me.

NOIP - I love things like these newspapers
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-26-08 at 13:05:59 PST   Listings
Jeff S� That �dedicated customer� you linked to sure looks like a shill bidder. Not only has he bid exclusively on one seller�s lots, he has left no feedback whatever for almost two years. Since both you and I were among the victims here, is there a way to report this clod to eBay? D2 perhaps you can help us figure out how to turn him in.

Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 584 ) on Feb-26-08 at 12:38:48 PST   Listings
Bravo Alec! well said!
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Feb-26-08 at 11:10:36 PST   Listings
Paul I certainly am not in the habit of making comments that are not correct. But please don't try and insult my ability to read and understand the Michel catalogue.

You stated earlier "the Michel catalog does not have any position varities they have type varities".
My response to you was,"They do list different types yes but they also list many positional varieties." I fail to see how that is confusing the issue. Positional varieties are listed in Michel plain fact. I simply added that they are known in German as, "Plattenfehler" for the benefit of anyone using Michel but unable to understand German philatelic terminology. If you care to open your Michel Spezial Saar pages you should find several listings given for Michel #'s 1-16 under the heading, "Aufdruckabarten" ( overprint varieties). Then directly below that illustrations of the TypeI followed by eg 1 PF A, 1 PF B etc etc. Guess what Paul the PF stands for Plattenfehler. Oh and where you see eg Feld 50, etc that refers to the sheet postion of the known variety.

PS. I don't do slap heads but I do kick A** when need be so behave ! No offence taken by the notional slap and non intended with the kick. Ok ?

Mitch I've nothing against Paul personally but I will stand and fight my corner when anyone accuses me of making a false statement especially when I know I am right. I'm not saying I know everything about German philately but I do feel I am more able than most to read the Michel correctly.
Anyway as far as I'm concerned this is the last I will say on the subject.If Paul wishes to have parts of the Michel translated he is welcome to ask. I don't hold grudges.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 991 ) on Feb-26-08 at 10:34:45 PST   Listings
And the postmark on this Finnish stamp I bought yesterday is from BJ�RNEBORG (no it has nothing to do with tennis)
Posted by dbenson   ( 8872 ) on Feb-26-08 at 10:21:48 PST   Listings
cobbie,

nothing really special but give it a go as there are many who collect rates,

Mitch,

it proved my point,

David B.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3917 ) on Feb-26-08 at 10:12:56 PST   Listings

And a postmark for bjorn as well
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Feb-26-08 at 10:03:01 PST   Listings
D2 To bad the people who need to understand those types of "sayings", either can't read or understand what they read.

Alec You should know by now that it is impossible to correct someone who is incorrectable.
Look on the good side though. If you let him slap you upside the head you can still be friends, who could pass on that deal.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-08 at 09:52:06 PST   Listings
nice stamp Bjorn
Posted by bjornmu   ( 991 ) on Feb-26-08 at 09:39:42 PST   Listings
NOIP: Finally, a Norwegian stamp with my name on it! :-)
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-08 at 09:22:44 PST   Listings
realy good
Posted by sayasan   ( 749 ) on Feb-26-08 at 09:14:20 PST   Listings
Paul - maybe you should put away the beer before you get the gun out ....
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 498 ) on Feb-26-08 at 08:56:06 PST   Listings
Do you think Curt Schilling will pitch this year?
That's a little too obvious!
Or he could just be a really good customer.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-08 at 08:12:32 PST   Listings
sure it is
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3917 ) on Feb-26-08 at 07:54:13 PST   Listings

dedicated customer??>
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1474 ) on Feb-26-08 at 07:00:54 PST   Listings
Greetings,

Woke up to a foggy morning which has given way to snow. Weatherman says we may have an inch by this evening.

Jim L.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 414 ) on Feb-26-08 at 06:20:10 PST   Listings
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06/28/07

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-26-08 at 05:50:14 PST   Listings
INFL-ALEC Three points you need to correct in your postings below .-------first sentence you say im wrong ,then the second sentence you agree with me on types ----very confusing

second you make up a word thats not in my Michel specialised catalog for the early Saar issues thats "PLATTENFEHLER" did you make that word up????

Your confusing the NEW READERS and COLLECTOR your using position varities and plate flaws interchangeable what are you saying they are the same or are you corn-fused to terminology...........your friend but a slap in the head would improve the relationship....paul

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-26-08 at 05:16:48 PST   Listings
KNUDEN ----Since most Experts don't come out of the womb as Experts .Most come to be by haveing a series of bad experiences and getting caught in greed over reason over time and then learning from bad mistakes is what becomes in the making of a true expert but we have a few here who claim the be experts but are still wet behind the ears .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-26-08 at 05:09:59 PST   Listings
JAY----- Im Not really the RV type ,here is a picture of my first "road trip across America " .Thats me with the army jacket and a beer in one hand and a gun in the other ,traveling in style On the road across America .......four inches of global warming fell on my driveway last night ...time to shovel....paul
Posted by cobbie10   ( 6520 ) on Feb-26-08 at 05:07:54 PST   Listings
Morning all from a rainy miserable MD.

David B / Lindy - Is there anything special about this cover, is it the correct rate for airmail for what I believe is 1946 ? If so, is it of any value or just a couple of dollars - thanks !
Mark

http://www.boomspeed.com/cobbie10/aussie1.JPG

http://www.boomspeed.com/cobbie10/aussie2.JPG
Posted by knuden   ( 2412 ) on Feb-26-08 at 01:36:13 PST   Listings
Iomoon - Correct Jim. :O)
Unfortunately my digetal camera ran out of battery but as soon my wife's pictures are developed, I will show some more pictures.
It's a fantastic landscape, as you know, and a beautyfull island.
The Azores looks like a nice place for a vacation and I would love to come there too.

mini*lindy Hi Linda - It shouldn't be too easy but as you see, no one can cheat a real Expert! :O)

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!
Posted by jaywild   ( 1053 ) on Feb-25-08 at 21:10:40 PST   Listings
Paul� Yep, when you see enraged townsfolk storming your RV waving torches, rakes and pitchforks it�s time to get on the road again�

Jim
Posted by cobbie10   ( 6520 ) on Feb-25-08 at 18:51:27 PST   Listings
At least the stamps appear to be tied to that cover, both nice pieces.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-25-08 at 18:04:59 PST   Listings
PETER Loved Canned Heat ,as my generation gets into the retirement age im sure more and more of them are going to take to the open road.The new lifestyle will be to be mobile with a labtop and a handheld phone and then ----Back on the Road again
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-25-08 at 17:22:15 PST   Listings
D2 & Mark

Interesting, another http://www.stampauctionnetwork.com/x/308/1004.jpg target=_blank> 4/- (+ 10d) cover.
Handwriting looks similar.
This one has stamps cut between, though.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-25-08 at 16:14:07 PST   Listings
K-E

A nice spot for your next vacation.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-25-08 at 15:35:20 PST   Listings
Woohoo, broke todays record temperature by 4 degrees F, clocking in at 79.
Unfortunately, that goes along with sustained winds of 30mph.
We are deep into fire hazard warning with 0.5mm of precipitation for the month and 9% humidity.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 84 ) on Feb-25-08 at 15:28:15 PST   Listings
In the words of the immortal Canned Heat I'm "On the Road Again" back in Hong Kong for the next week. A trip to Yang's beckons, work permitting. Paul you should make that your motto song:-)
cheers
Peter
Posted by dbenson   ( 8872 ) on Feb-25-08 at 14:30:15 PST   Listings
I came across this,

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/10400.html

never a truer word was spoke,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Feb-25-08 at 13:57:51 PST   Listings
Not very often I get to buy anything on ebay but I just got lucky

Yes the cover looks rough and a few of the stamps are damaged. It also has the emergency type of cancel used to frank items that did not receive the usual cds. So why was I so pleased to get it? Quite simply it is a Local Drucksache,(Printed matter) Mass franking (100 copies) of Michel 310 used on 5 November 1923. Correct rate and so far as I know one of if not the largest multiple franking of this stamp used in November. Any multiple franking of this particular stamp in November is rare because by this time rates were already in the Milliarden,(Billions) and as such the nominal face value of 2 Million Marks was virtually obsolete.

The Infla literature states that only a handful of multiple frankings are known to exist. I only have one other multiple franking of this stamp from November and in 10 years of searching this is the certainly the largest multiple I have seen.

Needless to say it will go with me to the expertizer on March 13th and we shall check the records to see just how rare this item is.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 584 ) on Feb-25-08 at 12:21:38 PST   Listings
Hahaha Knud, like your picture and the 'dont cheat' caption on the url!

ioJim I have just driven thru central New South Wales and saw some unusual mountain formations. Although I was born and grew up in that State, I have never travelled through that area before. It was a nice trip but I didn't stop to take many photos.

Cobbie I'm not sure, but looks like those imperforate Monaco could be from one of those 'deluxe' proof sheets.

Linda
Posted by cobbie10   ( 6520 ) on Feb-25-08 at 11:59:38 PST   Listings

Thanks David, found it.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8872 ) on Feb-25-08 at 11:45:47 PST   Listings
Cobbie,

try under French Indian Settlements,

s.g. MS117a

David B.
Posted by cobbie10   ( 6520 ) on Feb-25-08 at 11:34:10 PST   Listings
Day of 1000 questions - I cannot seem to find any reference to this French S/S - any help please ?

http://www.boomspeed.com/cobbie10/france.JPG

M.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8872 ) on Feb-25-08 at 11:25:43 PST   Listings
Paul, the term " positional varieties " refers to varieties that occur on particular positions on the printing plate. Michel shows the positional varieties but doesn't position them.

David B.
Posted by cobbie10   ( 6520 ) on Feb-25-08 at 11:14:09 PST   Listings
Hello All,

A quick question. I have this pair of imperf Monaco UPU stamps :

http://www.boomspeed.com/cobbie10/monaco.JPG

and was wondering if I would be wrong by saying that they came from the imperforate souvenir sheet. I only ask because they are actually being described as a rare imperforate pair and have a price on them of DM250.

If they're from the sheet, then they have very little, if any value.

Mark.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 588 ) on Feb-25-08 at 11:10:48 PST   Listings
Paul Re Michel catalogue I'm afraid you are wrong. They do list different types yes but they also list many positional varieties. For those with Michel please note that the varieties known as," Plattenfehler" (plate flaws) are usually only listed in the Michel Spezial. You can also find varieties listed as being, "Abarten". These are often not given any postional number as they can occur infrequently.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1062 ) on Feb-25-08 at 09:17:25 PST   Listings
K-E

Easy, since I've been up it.
Pico El Teide, Tenerife.
Posted by vonbag   ( 207 ) on Feb-25-08 at 08:43:03 PST   Listings
hallo Rainer,
The strudel cakes are delicious!
My grandmother used to make it for me (and the rest of family) as well.

Gr�ssen aus Soesterberg,
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1474 ) on Feb-25-08 at 08:28:57 PST   Listings
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Posted by 776   ( 655 ) on Feb-25-08 at 08:14:27 PST   Listings
Good morning from beautiful Georgia.

Gawg

Posted by knuden   ( 2412 ) on Feb-25-08 at 07:16:31 PST   Listings
Iomoon - Hi Jim. :O)
Just returned from a nice vacation, I thought you should have a small test of your knowledge. *grin*
Which volcano is this?
Feel free to use the picture. :O)

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3917 ) on Feb-25-08 at 06:20:36 PST   Listings

so.... what did the control marks control, and how did they control whatever they controlled?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Feb-25-08 at 05:21:12 PST   Listings
FROM THE POMPOUS COLLECTION For all new readers and collectors and all the small "e" experts here .

Here are what the Saar issues look like SAAR CONTROL MARKS ...........

Just to help out the big "E" expert ,the Michel catalog does not have any position varities they have type varities .......but what do I know im just a worldwide collector ......paul,off to work