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06/28/07

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 19:05:26 PDT

no Paul, you could ahve bid for it, it was too modern for me, I give up in 1896 anything after that is modern crap s far as I am concerned.

I used to collect the 1897 iussue and still have the invert in a corner block of 4 and a couple of singles.

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1052

)

on Jul-08-07 at 19:04:46 PDT

MispalcedDECIMAL POINT in price, postage a little overcharged.

But, apart from that....
and its fourth time around....
One would have thought the seller would have learnt something!!

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 19:02:33 PDT

Paul, yes we disagree, I never mentioned orphans and widows, I mentioned naive stamp collectors, some of which were so dissalusioned by being robbed by your " friend " they are no longer interested in collecting.

D1,

if you are in a hurry to find out, you can always check this site, it must be on there somewhere, good luck,

http://www.uncsodeistvie.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=60

David B.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-08-07 at 19:01:16 PDT

DAVID B. ----Congrad's on your award ,did you just pick up that invert in the auction last month in the U.S. ,think it was about 6k ,was going to throw in a bid just to piss you off lol .....paul

Posted by de66 ( 1108

) on Jul-08-07 at 19:01:14 PDT

D2

I was wanting the revenue results i know Chris got a Gold for his GB [this exhibit will be on the revenue web site as soon as i get a copy of the cd] which was first time out in SA last year.

Maybe AG will have a full list, i can always email him he just returned from a week at the Kiddles in the UK with Geoff K as a tag along party pooper, they all left leaving the UK with the St. Petersburg flu bug!

D1

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-08-07 at 18:56:56 PDT

DAVID B. -------We disagree ,there were mostly high feedback buyers who were buying not widows and orphans .The lots started around $10.00 a piece and many sold at the opening bid. On one lot if real catalog about $3,000 and I won the lot at opening bid of 9.99 .Now if people thought they were real ,these people have serious issues . Yes he was a friend and we talked a few times on this chat room ,seems friendly .

You have a hard time understanding some collectors are born to be cheated ,they would never buy a decent stamp at a fair price and would never bid against other bidders ,they live for the bargins and want something for almost free or they ain't buying .These collectors are buying only when its too good to be true and most of the time its not true ......

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 18:47:30 PDT

D1, the Australian results were on the Australian Chat,

can't help with worldwide awards but I have to go to Arthur's house this arvo or tomorrow to pick up my exhibit and I will also be getting a catalogue and palmares but I am not sure if they are in English or Russian,

http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=1394

David B.

Posted by de66 ( 1108

) on Jul-08-07 at 18:39:41 PDT

Can anybody give me a link to the St. Petersburg 07 results

D1

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 18:21:16 PDT

I have been in contact with 100's of buyers of which none were dealers or resellers as well as spoken in person to at least 20 worldwide and all of them were of the opinion that the items were genuine. Some of them were experienced collectors and were fooled with the various Specimen handstamps. As far as I am concerned they were all naive but that is why he got away with $100,000's.

I can also blame Ebay for not booting him earlier as they ignored plenty of articles about his fakes in many philatelic magazines worldwide. If Ebay had a stamp maanger who knew anything about philately he would have been booted within days instead of years,

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 17:44:00 PDT

Paul,

and no you are wrong, the main buyers were naive collectors who thought they had bought something cheap without realising they had been conned.

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 17:42:11 PDT

Paul,

by the way, he was your friend, not mine,

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 17:40:11 PDT

Paul,

I don't know whether you are trying to change history or have forgotten what happened.

He originally made fake overprints which he sold as ORIGINALS and then progressed into making computer replicas which he also sold as ORIGINALS later on he hand perforated them but those were also sold as ORIGINALS. None were ever sold as works of art.

David B.

Posted by claghorn1p ( 411

)

on Jul-08-07 at 17:38:43 PDT

Tourist Sheet By the way, those forgeries were sold at the turn of the century as Tourist Sheets to travelers leaving Japan at the turn of the century.

Posted by claghorn1p ( 411

)

on Jul-08-07 at 17:32:20 PDT

D2 Anyone who knows anything about Formosa knows that they look like this but some sellers think that they are sitting on a pot of gold.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-08-07 at 16:45:22 PDT

DAVID B. ------Interesting story that you linked . But I have to say I see a parrell from that story to what we had on e-bay a few years ago from our friend in Florida who was making fakes of stamps .

He never sold them as originals ,but as works of art and who were the buyers not youngsters or beginner collectors but the e-bay sellers who had feedback numbers in the hundreds if not a few in the thousands .So anytime soon we will be seeing "classical forgeries " or "research forgeries " being offered for sale .Another area,they will be sold as part of larger auction lots with some dumb note that they are unknown plate proofs .But it will surface in your life time as something and sold for a few bucks apiece ....paul

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-08-07 at 16:21:28 PDT

VICTOR-----Good to see your posting .How is your son doing ,has he gotten into a journalism job ?

My girls are fine ,one got back from Iraq ,she calls it a hellhole and the other was just admitted to the School of Molecular and Cellular Biology ,she is making extra money this summer on a research thing were she saps cells with electrity for DNA testing. But good to see your posting .....paul

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 16:17:32 PDT

Interesting article about Ebay and fake painting in the Sydney Morning Herald,

http://www.smh.com.au/news/arts/dobell-original-on-ebay/2007/07/08/1183833344303.html

don't forget to read page 2,

David B.

Posted by nomad55 ( 901

)

on Jul-08-07 at 16:01:26 PDT

Hi Vic...long time no chat. The research project I was contemplating when we met down your way is FINISHED. I set myself a 3 year time limit, it took 2 1/2. I did not set a page limit, so was a bit surprised after running the automatic page numbering routine to find it peaked out at over 800!

Said to myself: No way can you afford to release this in print form, its got to be on CD ROM. So far the feedback from clients has all been positive. Maybe now I can get back to normal, or knowing me, I will press on with other research and writing, but nothing of that magnitude.

Anyhow, my comment below yours is a direct lift from one of the chapters.

Posted by horadam1 ( 437

)

on Jul-08-07 at 15:45:35 PDT

Michel, it is nice to see a post from you. It has been a long time. Sorry if you have been posting recently. I have been busy at work and not checked the board for several months. This is the first post I have seen from you in years. I know many of us were worried when you had the heart problem and did not post for some time. I am glad you are better, and posting again. Do you still collect Liberia? I remember when you asked about anyone who collected Liberia, and I checked what I had. You prompted me to begin my collection of Liberia in earnest then, and that has continued to date. I have been inactive with stamps for a while due to work and other constraints, but plan to get back one of these days. I hope you are better, and wish you luck. Welcome back to the board.

Posted by nomad55 ( 901

)

on Jul-08-07 at 15:34:15 PDT

A clueless seller and a group of stupid uninformed bidders...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320133187216&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011

There was no rocket mail in conjunction with the Century of Progress. These are total fantasy items produced in the early 1950’s by a Chicago dealer who found rolls of gummed paper of the kind used to seal parcels. Two types are known, a 25 Cent in brown and a One Dollar in orange, the orange being much more common. They are known as mint singles, or applied on uncacheted covers and cards from the fair in an attempt to enhance the card or cover’s value.

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 15:19:57 PDT

Matt, they are not common and good strikes like that are hard to find. On the other hand Finnish stamps used in Russia, usually St. Petersburg do demand a premium,

David B.

Posted by keleofa ( 3487

)

on Jul-08-07 at 15:07:59 PDT

David & Paul,

re: Russia, postmarked Helsinki.

OK, thanks!

Matt in Arizona

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-08-07 at 15:02:49 PDT

Matt,

during that period Russian stamps were valid in Finland which was part of Russia. There isn't any premium for loose stamps but there is for covers as well as any markings of the small provincial offices,

David B.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-08-07 at 13:22:32 PDT

spoke too soon its the Russian issue if green and orange if Finish ,but to answer your question I don't believe there is a premium on those stamps.They were too easy to use across each side of the border .

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-08-07 at 13:18:06 PDT

MATT----That is a Finish stamp,show you a scan from my collection

Posted by keleofa ( 3487

)

on Jul-08-07 at 13:10:06 PDT

Russia, used in Finland...

Russia,Issue of 1909-1912

Is there any added value (and how much) for this Russian stamp postmarked Helsinki?

T I A

Matt in Arizona

Posted by antonius-ra ( 637

)

on Jul-08-07 at 12:59:27 PDT

Andy Sorry, but I still do not understand. What other catalogue? What do you mean by Scott items? If you could post a scan someone should be able to ID them quickly. Or you could email them to me to post.

Congratulations to Brazil on their campaign of voting early and often for the new "seven wonders"
Maybe next time that peace of toast that sold on ebay a few years ago will be up for consideration.
My top choice would have probably been the U.S. interstate system (but of course it was not a choice)

Goin swimmin for a while, BBL

Posted by colorful_stitches1 ( 77

)

on Jul-08-07 at 12:27:42 PDT

ahem

Posted by sirrinepeter ( 225

)

on Jul-08-07 at 12:10:28 PDT

antonius-ra
They are from another Catalogue and are Scott items from cut squares U1 to U10 or so.
Thanks for responding.
Andy

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-08-07 at 12:06:05 PDT

LOL -
SPORT OF THE FAMOUS TORCH RACE

Ebay just has to love these sellers. Talk about contributing to a pension fund, someone else's.

Roger

Posted by antonius-ra ( 637

)

on Jul-08-07 at 11:45:08 PDT

Andy I do not think it possible to answer your question with the info provided!?!

Posted by sirrinepeter ( 225

)

on Jul-08-07 at 10:33:00 PDT

ALOHA From Junction City , Oregon US of A,
Long time no post. I do read a lot of the posts.

for oggilby " Burt " working for Ruby would be fun
but its San Fran and costly. You can live in east Bay and use " BART " train and get arround. By the by the area is great for geology.

Can some one help me? Boy thats a oxymoron. Can some one help me with Scott # for these items
#1 2305
#2 2311
#3 2314

MAHALO for the help
Andy - I know I should use spell ck.

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-08-07 at 08:49:21 PDT

sayasan… I have Stompsoft as my spyware program, which warns me with a big white screen that spyware has been detected and is trying to worm its way onto my hard drive. The program is very good—in the year I have been using it nothing has gotten through, although it is due for renewal and the warning message tells me that the company no longer supports my version. I have a pal who is an ex-IBM tech who gave me the software in the first place and he says he can fix it.

I try (although not always very hard or successfully) to give others the benefit of the doubt, and soccers_cn1 may be just an innocent conduit of something he knows nothing about. Having had the bad experience with his show-and-tell links I have not tried to enter his blog. I reported a post of his to eBay once as containing malicious code and it was removed almost immediately, then the next time nothing was done.

Good morning Miss Lindy. Glad you had such a fun time with your granddaughter.

Jim

Posted by dcderoo ( 1669

) on Jul-08-07 at 07:51:51 PDT

Never mind. I finally found the Australia Post website.
It is something like A$13.60.

Posted by dcderoo ( 1669

) on Jul-08-07 at 07:46:45 PDT

What's the cost of postage to mail about 10 oz (about 300 gms) from Austalia to the US?

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1369

)

on Jul-08-07 at 04:05:18 PDT

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member

Posted by mini*lindy ( 407

)

on Jul-08-07 at 03:14:05 PDT

Greetings all from Melbourne. I have had a wonderful week, eldest grandaughter here for a vacation. She went home today, so I'm reclaiming the computer.

Linda
:o)

Posted by infla-alec ( 547

)

on Jul-08-07 at 02:16:32 PDT

Richard W Like I said previously I never click on any links that I'm not sure about. I for one don't know when spyware is attempting to deliver itself. Like most I rely on my firewall to prevent such attacks happening. Then of course if any do get through to be purged forever (hopefully) when the computer does the weeekly checks automatically.

Maybe the computer savvy amongst us here can offer better tips to prevent such things happening and perhaps how to tell when they are being attempted. I'm only guessing but I assume security settings etc play a part in all this.

It's possible also of course that the FDC links aren't intended spyware or even spyware at all but the best person to answer that would be "soccer" yet strangely nothing heard from him/her since the whole spyware thing has been discussed.

Posted by sayasan ( 680

)

on Jul-08-07 at 00:24:21 PDT

jim - Hmm, you've got a point there. Maybe I take that back. Just out of interest, since I have once or twice linked to his new fdc's, how did you pick up on the spyware? My firewall didn't notice anything.

Richard W

Posted by nomad55 ( 901

)

on Jul-07-07 at 20:04:56 PDT

Knuden....thanks.
I did not think so, but just needed to confirm from someone who knew for sure.

Posted by mendelbrot ( 45

)

on Jul-07-07 at 17:06:44 PDT

Greetings to you all

Michel
Me

Posted by mendelbrot ( 45

)

on Jul-07-07 at 16:40:14 PDT

Greetings to you all

Michel

Me

Posted by knuden ( 2292

)

on Jul-07-07 at 16:11:29 PDT

nomad55 - In short - no. :O)

K.E I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-07-07 at 16:10:15 PDT

sayasan… My mention of the FDC posts by soccers_cn1 wasn’t a gratuitous slap—the link to his “newest FDC” always leads to spyware trying load on my computer.

If it were somebody interested in FDCs that wanted to share, fine, but this guy receives a “new” one every day (Sundays and holidays too) so I’m pretty sure there’s more going on that just “sharing”.

Apologies if I’m wrong, don’t think so though…

Jim

Posted by nomad55 ( 901

)

on Jul-07-07 at 16:01:29 PDT

A question for our Scandanavian friends...

During the war, were any stamps of Denmark overprinted by the German occupation forces?

Posted by infla-alec ( 547

)

on Jul-07-07 at 15:23:20 PDT

Richard / Sayasan I'm sure no offence was meant by the FDC comments. If offence was caused by my own post then I unreservedly apologize. But perhaps if "soccer" would tell us a little more about what he finds so interesting rather than direct all to a daily blog the black philatelic humour wouldn't be here.
I also have not clicked on any links by his posts as I'm wary of possible spyware being or attempting to download itself onto my computer.

Posted by greenwave4u ( 79

)

on Jul-07-07 at 14:07:25 PDT

Knud Already there! and yes good music while you surf!

Posted by knuden ( 2292

)

on Jul-07-07 at 14:04:11 PDT

If anyone want to know more, you can find it here.

K.E I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by knuden ( 2292

)

on Jul-07-07 at 13:52:58 PDT

At the moment I'm among the 2.000.000.000 viewers, who are looking at the Live Earth concerts and it's direct on my PC. Lots of good music. :O)

K.E I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-07-07 at 13:30:40 PDT

Re : Image links by soccers_cn1

I clicked on his links to view an image and it downloads to my computer. I don't want that action when I click on an image link. Does anyone know why this is the only link which had this feature? I don't look any more for that reason.

An answer by soccer would be appreciated.

Roger

Posted by sayasan ( 680

)

on Jul-07-07 at 13:13:14 PDT

Hey, asbestos wearers - lay off soccer. The guy apparently has a sincere passion for genuinely mailed fdc's, as opposed to the official faked up versions, which some here might applaud, and he takes the trouble to share his interest. What's wrong with that?

I went to Midpex (Coventry, UK) last weekend. It was well supported, but at 58 I felt like one of the youngsters. The place was full of snowy headed geriatrics and old geezers barely able to hobble about. We ought to be encouraging new collectors, not disparaging them. And Asia - China in particular - is the future of philately, believe me. So many younger Chinese collectors don't have the sophisticated background knowledge that we enjoy? - all the more reason for passing it on.

Richard W.

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-07-07 at 12:40:02 PDT

Re: Double posts
Earlier this spring I got a new generic keyboard (Kensington) and it didn't take long for various keys to get "sticky", such as delete key, return key, and a couple of others. At the same time, for the first time ever, I got a left click-right click mouse. What a pain inthe butt! So many times I move my mouse on the pad and my middle finger accidently clicks the rihght clicker. I used a single button mouse for 20 years and of course, never had the problem, nor the need. Now I get things happening automatically, and little windows opening that I have no interest in using. Call me old fashioned but the two button should not be on the same plane.

Open for comments!
Roger

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-07-07 at 12:34:47 PDT

jaywild -
My guess is that Lloyd would win the pool );>), so I won't bother participating. Some FDC's are pretty, but unaddressed collectables do nothing for me and as far as I'm concerned have nothing to do with philately. They are contrived collectables with little resale value. The only FDC's that seem to have any long term value are those from over 70 years ago, or were created by an artist. Most today have little artistic value, therefore, little collectable value, especially when they can be produced over a period of months by the postal service.

Roger -
donning my asbestos coat.

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3720

)

on Jul-07-07 at 12:30:38 PDT

I got so carried away with being cute I forgot to include the link

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-07-07 at 12:29:05 PDT

Milenko -
I search for Switzerland, Schwiez, Suisse, Swiss, etec, etc in "Stamps" category for exactly the same reason. Seller are limited to two categories, but if they make accurate, complete ddescriptions, their items can be found in my searches. The items I never find are those where the seller lists within a category and FAILS TO MENTION THE COUNTRY NAME IN EITHER THE TITLE OR DESCRIPTION. The only search of mine that will then find items are those searches where I use city names,etc. The seller has left out the obvious because they are listing by category and assume everyone uses eBay categories! Dumb mistake on seller's part.

I must add that most of my searches use the "Advanced Search" which brings in many international items. Then I have "Advanced Search" in a couple of other eBay sites, where the instructions are mirrors of eBay.com. If the advanced search pages are different than eBay.com, I don't think I get maximum returns.

Roger

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3720

)

on Jul-07-07 at 12:27:40 PDT

'nuther dummass seller, can't tell Japan from India . . . Should probably wear a bicycle helmet when listing.

grin

Posted by infla-alec ( 547

)

on Jul-07-07 at 12:22:32 PDT

Jim LOL . Now if only he needed some GB FDC's I could sell him some at $1 a pop and forget having to pay into the FDC pot :-)

Posted by nomad55 ( 901

)

on Jul-07-07 at 12:21:14 PDT

jaywild....

Greek - because he's a moron?

FDC - Indonesia

lluehhhb.....with the proliferation of items listed in the wrong category, like our Greek doofus, expanding the search is the only way to go. Then start subtracting the obvious items in the search box and you can really narrow it down to specifics. But on the plus side, an item in the wrong category can be a bargain if no body else finds it.

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-07-07 at 12:12:12 PDT

NOIP… We should start up a pool to guess where soccers_cn1’s next FDC is going to be from. Say, $1 a guess, winner takes the whole pot? Anyone interested?

☺

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-07-07 at 12:09:37 PDT

Milenko… I do the same thing for certain searches. A sizeable percentage of lots I am interested in are listed in the wrong category. It’s amazing that some sellers manage to sell anything.

That Greek seller has been doing that for weeks, and there was another seller repeatedly flogging a Princess Diana “keepsake” stamp album in a US category before finally giving up.

Jim

Posted by lluehhhb ( 279

) on Jul-07-07 at 12:04:14 PDT

About the stamps categories,

I always look for "chile" items, but if I limit the search to the Latin America -> South America category, I'll be missing a large amount of hits, so I look under the main "Stamps" category. Subcategories are useless for me.

How do you people deal with this?

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-07-07 at 11:46:02 PDT

Mystery of the Day… Why does this guy always list all of his Greece items in USA Postal History?

Jim

Posted by infla-alec ( 547

)

on Jul-07-07 at 11:17:49 PDT

Vinny My advice is the English version of Michel is ok for some things but bear in mind it does not cover all the areas given in Band 1.For example many of the German Occupations of WW II are simply not included. I have no idea why not but in my opinion Michel producing an imcomplete translation of Band 1 is a waste of time and in many ways a disgrace. No English version for Band 2 yet exists. Save yourself the money and simply mail me when you need help translating any of the text from Bands 1 or 2. My own versions are from 2005 but if you give me the area ie Bundesrepublik and Michel # pretty sure I can help.

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-07-07 at 11:14:23 PDT

Paolo-

I sometimes think the collecting of modern (post Standing Helvetia) Switzerland is best done by buying individual stamps. My guess is that many dealers have the examples in stock. If you search and look into the eBay Staores of some Swiss and German dealers there are many images identified by Zumstein number such as 286.2.d . (I made that number up );>) You might find it more economical.

I have bought assorments looking for varieties and believe most have been picked out, especially when looking for interesting cancelations. Few exist in unsorted lots.

Roger

Posted by vinnysf ( 513

) on Jul-07-07 at 09:59:09 PDT

infla-alec yeah i got the michel 2006 specialized band 1 and 2. i'm just gonna spend the money and get the new english version because translating german is a lot harder than i thought.

Posted by deh3 ( 1688

)

on Jul-07-07 at 07:44:34 PDT

Jeff: No, I've seen $50 shipping fee for a single cover on e-Bay, mailed from the US (by AH, ex-Canadian).

David H

Posted by soccers_cn1 ( 34

)

on Jul-07-07 at 06:44:35 PDT

http://bp3.blogger.com/_8AMmfBQS1QA/Ro-TOS8FXJI/AAAAAAAAB1w/2i4br3l6-5c/s320/2007-06-29+Ukraine+Shukhevych.JPG
Ukraine Shukhevych FDC I got today.
You can find more real posted FDC in my blog.
http://myfdc.blogspot.com/

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3720

)

on Jul-07-07 at 05:57:23 PDT

Is $12 shipping a record high price for one cover? OK, seller is in Germany, but...

Morning all...

Posted by infla-alec ( 547

)

on Jul-06-07 at 23:51:44 PDT

Vinny In one way yes it is because the value should have been printed central to the stamp design. However it is quite common for the value on all the stamps from that set to be found with misplaced values. Those with severe misplacements are much more collectable to the variety specialists. A few are even known with the value completly missing. The misplacement occurs because the set is exactly the same as the old Rosette issues, (Oct-Nov 1923) with values in Milliarden Marks & both issues had the value inserted after the basic design had been printed.

By the way Vinny did you ever get yourself an old Michel catalogue ?

Posted by vinnysf ( 513

) on Jul-06-07 at 21:39:29 PDT

infla-alec is this placement of the number an error?

Posted by antonius-ra ( 637

)

on Jul-06-07 at 21:11:30 PDT

North Korea?

Posted by greenbamboo2006 ( 0 ) on Jul-06-07 at 20:39:22 PDT

Which country is in demand worldwide?

Posted by lluehhhb ( 279

) on Jul-06-07 at 19:15:40 PDT

I'm not sure, but I think there was a collector of wine thematic here. I received one in today's mail from Argentina and wanted to check if it's useful for him...

Posted by oldusstamps ( 39

) on Jul-06-07 at 18:34:29 PDT

Confederate Navy: There is a great Confederate Naval Museum in Columbus Georgia. Prior to my first visit there, I was not as aware, of just how important the Navies were during the "Civil War"

I wonder if there were any postal markings used on any of the ships on either side? I kinda doubt it, but does anyone here know if there were any?

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-06-07 at 17:51:39 PDT

I see Bob Hohertz was the underbidder on that lot.

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-06-07 at 17:48:42 PDT

NOIP… Here’s a nice realization. I was going to bid on this item but forgot.

Jim

Posted by vonbag ( 175

)

on Jul-06-07 at 17:14:23 PDT

where I wrote 'coated' read 'laid'. I often mistake this term in English.

Posted by vonbag ( 175

)

on Jul-06-07 at 17:00:04 PDT

Roger,
Looks like this time I f*cked a bit up with a deal of the Swiss lots I bought today: about five full stock pages of 'famous historical features' of 1941 and some other pages of 'technic features' of 1949; I bought it as a 'closed lot', hoping to find some varieties, such as re-entries on the first serie.
Even though I have a Headache horribilis right now, after the scrutiny marathon, sadly, I didn't find any re-entry (I was hoping to find at least one on the 2 franks 'Ferrer' not hoping to find the one on the 1 frank 'Pfyffer' but maybe an Urtype of the 20c. wouldn't have been out of the questions). Not even a coated paper! The problem is that I bought these pages for 30 euro, which is close, if not MUCH superior (;-)) to the value of the material in it.
Should I sue them for the headache? LOL
Well, I risked hoping for the hunchback strike, but was outta luck today.

Paolo

Posted by bosniacollect ( 101

) on Jul-06-07 at 14:34:05 PDT

David B

Thanks.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-06-07 at 14:31:49 PDT

FEELING ALOT BETTER -----Found this to be a better read than this chat board From the Bavarian Haus .....off to pick up a check from them for their new parking lot ....paul

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-06-07 at 13:24:30 PDT

Paolo… Indeed you are right. Neither the Virginia nor the Monitor were the first ironclads, but their 1862 clash was the first battle fought exclusively between ironclad vessels, and forever after no one could rely on wooden warships. (The Virginia, originally a US commissioned ship named the Merrimack, wreaked havoc amongst the wooden warships in Hampton Roads just prior to Monitor making its appearance.)

To keep this philatelic (a new approach for me) this stamp was issued by the US to honor the man who designed the Monitor.

Jim

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-06-07 at 12:57:19 PDT

BTW -
It is still possible to go on board a 19th century iron-clad. HMS Warrior has been restored and is at the Portsmouth Navy Yard along with Victory, and The "Mary Rose". A must visit for any tourist with any interest whatsoever in sailing, history, or stamp collecting. (to keep it philatelic)

http://www.hmswarrior.org/

Roger

Posted by infla-alec ( 547

)

on Jul-06-07 at 12:56:58 PDT

Chaswilly I have replied to your question in .de and also took the liberty of asking it again in German just in case some of the Infla collectors there don't speak English well enough to reply.
From .de Cafe the experts who may know are Kurtel, Jambo-Berlin, 278y, but there are others although I don't know if they speak English.

Posted by jherek99 ( 387

) on Jul-06-07 at 12:52:31 PDT

David,

Beat me to it.

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-06-07 at 12:50:47 PDT

Bosnia, close but not close enough,

Montenegro,

David B.

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-06-07 at 12:50:40 PDT

Paolo -
):>)

Roger

Posted by bosniacollect ( 101

) on Jul-06-07 at 12:36:32 PDT

Any idea what country this is from? I don't believe it is Bosnia.

BOSNIA 10 Red Mint Postal card with Reply Card Attached

Item number: 230149566381

Posted by wrd3 ( 100

) on Jul-06-07 at 11:59:05 PDT

vonbag good memory ... La Gloire was launched in 1859. See here and here .

Bill D.

Posted by vonbag ( 175

)

on Jul-06-07 at 11:45:38 PDT

What about the "Philalytic Guano" award?

Posted by vonbag ( 175

)

on Jul-06-07 at 11:41:13 PDT

Good day all!

Welcome back Burton!
When you retire from work and I retire from doing nothing, we may both go there to work.
We can do like those philatelic companies (like at least one in South America and another on Virgin Island) that issue certificates for the material they sell!

Just bought another large lot of Switzerland: looks like I am hopelessy addicted!!!

Jim and Brian,
Interesting information on Ironclads & the bellic efforts during the US Civil War.
Off the top of my head, though, the first built ironclad was French ('La Gloire' or something).

Good continuation,
Paolo

Posted by oggilby ( 1216

)

on Jul-06-07 at 10:25:08 PDT

Greetings All! I'm back from another week in Beautiful SW MI.

jaywild--Maybe I'll go work for Ruby when I retire in 3 years, I can't do much worse than the current crop they have!

briguy--The Wash. Post last Sunday (1st) had a listing of all the Civil War re-enactments/encampments on the East Coast this summer. There's quite a lot to pick from.

Posted by karlhh ( 1018

) on Jul-06-07 at 09:47:34 PDT

jaywild ... I thought the Chicago charm school flunk out received the lifetime award for that and other catagories .

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-06-07 at 09:26:41 PDT

NOIP… This seller must not be a native English speaker.

Perhaps we should create a NUMINASTIC ASS award on this board, to be awarded periodically, as necessary.

☺

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-06-07 at 08:50:02 PDT

briguy… Yes, quite a story. The South threatened with a few more ironclads (the Arkansas, for instance) which the North feared tremendously, but they did not have the industrial base in the South to manufacture them like the North did, which churned out monitors like cockroaches. The Confederacy contracted for two tremendous seagoing ironclads which were built in England, paid for through an elaborate ruse of shell companies which made it difficult to prove that the Confederacy was the legal owner. (England suborning the production of war matériel for the South would have been an overt casus belli against the North, which the American ambassador Charles Francis Adams wore out his patience making clear to the English government.) In the end the British seized the two ships before they were finished and added them to their own Navy, although by the time they floated they were already hopelessly out of date. The Civil War was the first instance where innovation and technology created a true arms race, with one side developing new technology which would be effective sometimes only for a matter of weeks before a counter technology neutralized it. Prior to the American Civil War warfare was conducted by people—afterwards it was a game of machines.

The one thing the South never lacked for was ammunition. Right up to the end of the war they had prodigious supplies, the only real difficulty being the ability to transport what they produced.

Jim

Posted by claghorn1p ( 411

)

on Jul-06-07 at 06:13:35 PDT

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Posted by soccers_cn1 ( 34

)

on Jul-06-07 at 05:42:31 PDT

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Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Jul-06-07 at 04:06:16 PDT

Jim Huh? I was commenting on the brilliance of Ruby's listing a big pile of stamps from Spain in the "Confederate States" category.

As for the CSS Virginia ("Merrimack" for those of you with northern printed history books), that poor ship had more then a few brushes with death. She originally WAS burned to the waterline at her moorings and left for dead. It was the new Confederate Navy that inherited the area, raised her, and then finished her build in iron plate thus creating history's first ironclad warship.

After her famous one day battle with the USS Monitor ended in a draw, the Virginia did indeed sortie out into Hampton Roads several times again. However, the Monitor was under Presidential orders from Lincoln to NOT engage her again unless absolutely necessary. It made sense really. The union could (and was) constructing fleets of other ironclads, something the south was incapable of. The fact the Monitor/Virginia ended up just staring at each other on opposite sides of the river was a checkmate the north was happy enough with. Later in the war, when Union ground forces closed in on her home port, the Virginia's captain tried the last ditch effort of sailing her up the James river to Richmond. He was told her draft was too deep and he was told right. She ran aground in shallow waters and was scuttled (blown to bits with a massive powder charge) to prevent those pesky yankees from "re-inheriting" her once again.

So that postcard isn't all that removed from reality.

Posted by jaywild ( 957

)

on Jul-05-07 at 21:20:54 PDT

briguy… Wasn’t the Virginia burned at her moorings? She couldn’t make it out into the ways, could she? That’s an awfully dramatic postcard.

Jim

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Jul-05-07 at 18:19:55 PDT

Ruby's listing drones strike again!

....and because they're all getting bids,...they'll likely do it again.

ArrrrrRRRGGGGGHHH!

Apparently geography and history are no longer college requirements.....

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-05-07 at 18:01:04 PDT

not a identification problem ........Paul says it is a idenification problem .........

Off to the Bavarian House and a Spaten Munich Larger's maybe more than a few ,my feelings are hurt ....paul

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-05-07 at 17:36:27 PDT

Posted by dbenson ( 8373

)

on Jul-05-07 at 17:12:25 PDT

Paul, one day you will read what someone says and understand it instead of making your own interpretations of what was said.

What I said was that the color of the scan isn't correct,

" This is similar to the one in Mitch's collection but the colors of the scan on the site that Paolo linked to appears to be incorrect but it is most probably a scanning and not an identification problem ".

David B.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1369

)

on Jul-05-07 at 17:04:49 PDT

Most of Indypex's exhibits are mounted. Hopefully I'll get a good look at them tomorrow.

Jim L.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-05-07 at 16:57:21 PDT

PAOLO Sorry but im skeptical about that scan .I don't agree with that French dealer or David B. that the stamp or stamps are a prussian blue .Those stamps in your link are more like one of the stamps that I have in my collection as seen here Not any prussian blues .......The scan of Mitch's would be correct but it needs a cert. to be worth more than 5% of catalog and the Sandfreyre scan would be correct both have the strong cobalt blue color .....paul

Posted by lluehhhb ( 279

) on Jul-05-07 at 14:36:36 PDT

many thanks to Paolo, Alec and Chaswilly for the answers!

Posted by chaswilly ( 1637

) on Jul-05-07 at 14:24:58 PDT

lluehhhb Purple marking reads "Damaged" (presumably in transit) and resealed by the seal of the Dortmund Post Office.

Posted by infla-alec ( 547

)

on Jul-05-07 at 14:21:47 PDT

Milenko The German cancel states the cover was found to be damaged. Can't read to see if it was opened and contents stolen or just damaged in transit. But it was officially resealed by Dortmund sorting office.

Posted by vonbag ( 175

)

on Jul-05-07 at 13:43:15 PDT

P.S. the one in the auction bears most likely a fake cancel.
The date of the cancel must be available for the cancel to have an, albeit minimum, possibility of being genuine (**genuine = original cancel device impressed within the period of validity, after the distribution to the P.O., of the adhesive postage stamp).
All the rest, included barred numeral cancellations, have always to raise suspicion and extreme precaution, and are, anyway, useless for exhibit purposes.

Posted by vonbag ( 175

)

on Jul-05-07 at 13:36:06 PDT

Milenko,
Why is the Humbert I 30c. brown is arer used? Because, by 1879 on, until about 1888, there were still huge provisions of the 30c. brown Victor Emmanuel II (type of the Issue of 1863, mostly Turin print).
This stamp could be used for a short period of time and was only distributed to a few Postal Directions.

Paolo

Posted by lluehhhb ( 279

) on Jul-05-07 at 13:31:10 PDT

Another question,

What's the meaning of the German mark in the back of this cover? (The purple one in the back of the top cover). There is what I suposse a official seal and some kind of notice. Maybe it arrived opened? censorship?

Posted by lluehhhb ( 279

) on Jul-05-07 at 13:10:35 PDT

Hi all

why this Italian stamp is so rare used?

Posted by vonbag ( 175

)

on Jul-05-07 at 10:36:57 PDT

Good day all!

Paul, Mitchell, Knud-Erik, David B.,
Interesting discussion and images.
This is my best image shot at a:
Sage_1c_nero_su_blu_di_prussia

The so-called 'cobalt' and 'blue' papers are never in the true colour blue and cobalt respectively.
I would call the stamp portrayed above, which is unused, a black on medium blue paper.

Greetings, Paolo

Posted by rioroyal ( 392

) on Jul-05-07 at 08:44:37 PDT

dcderoo-- Not sure how far Camp Century was from Thule AFB. P Mountain was part of the DEW Line and if I remember about 6 or 7 miles by an uncertain road prone to weather shut down from the main base. Not a very pleasent year in the memory bank.

Posted by dcderoo ( 1669

) on Jul-05-07 at 08:37:20 PDT

A quick Google scan of Camp Century explains at least part of it.
Looks like they were doing ice cores to bed rock in conjunction with CRREL (Cold Regions Research & Engineering Laboratory, Hanover, NH.)
If that's the whole explanation, then it's a lot like the US Antarctic effort.
Civilian researchers supported logistically by the military.
I almost got PCS'ed to CRREL too, and to this day I rue my decision to not take the assignment.

One other point about Camp Century.
Apparently they had to periodically "shave" the trench walls.
Iomoon will certainly understand this since the process also occurs in geomorphology.
Since there was now a "hole" in the icecap, the surrounding snow/ice would "relax" to fill in the gap. Nothing to keep it in place.

Posted by dcderoo ( 1669

) on Jul-05-07 at 08:22:41 PDT

rioroyal, nope. Never had dealings with Greenland, but I came close.
In '69 they were going to PCS me to Camp Century, Greenland.
As I understand (and from a few pictures) it was about 100 miles out on the icecap.
They (the Army?) just cut a BIG trench (30-50 feet deep?) in the icecap, covered it over with some sort of prefab roofing and put up huts in the bottom.
I have no idea what it was all about but they obviously needed some sort of meteorological support.
I managed to wiggle out of that assignment.
So I got PCS'ed to Fort Wainwright (Fairbanks) Alaska, instead. I suspect not a lot of difference.

Posted by rioroyal ( 392

) on Jul-05-07 at 07:53:04 PDT

dcderoo--Did you ever have any contact with a HAM site at Thule Greenland? I was there in 61 and 62 on a radar site called "P" Mountain. The real name was Pingersuitte Mt, not real sure of the spelling. The HAM guy would patch in calls for us, usually late at night or early in the morning.

Posted by oldusstamps ( 39

) on Jul-05-07 at 05:43:16 PDT

To Ham Operators about dx'ing. Here is an old saying that, my late Father, told me when I was a kid. It originated in the early '30's I believe:

Open a window and get Chilli, break a tube and get Hell.

My Dad started to build Crystal sets when he was in his mid teens. It was quite novel to listen to far away stations even on the AM band.Things have sure changed during the last 75 years.

Posted by soccers_cn1 ( 34

)

on Jul-05-07 at 05:36:51 PDT

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1 Japan Scenic & Flowers FDC I got today.
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Posted by dcderoo ( 1669

) on Jul-05-07 at 05:31:09 PDT

About the "day/night terminator".
It really controlled what part of the country we could communicate with.
Good communications would start on the East coast and hour-by-hour move across the country.
So about 4 hours later was the end of phone patches.

And when we came up and started announcing ourselves (CQ?) we were mobbed with responses once they figured out who we were.
We'd all sit around and try to catch as many of the call letters as we could, then work our way through them.

Posted by dcderoo ( 1669

) on Jul-05-07 at 05:23:13 PDT

I was at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station (Nov '68-Feb '69) which is why I mentioned KC4USN.
My father-in-law was (W2BYO and later W3PPB, now deceased.)

Anyway back to the Pole Station.
Not being a ham much of the jargon was strange to me.
The unit itself was a 1000w linear(?)
We had a 300 foot sloping-V antenna.
The two people allowed to operate the equipment for the rest of us were two Navy chiefs whose prime duty was getting aircraft safely to the Pole Station.
We'd all sit around waiting for a strong Stateside signal with a phone patch, then they'd ask if anyone wanted to call through the patch.
The one I often used was K2PPB (K2 Busy Phone Patch) in New Jersey. The guy was great. He'd come up virtually every day just to see if we had traffic for him.

I think we'd power up in the early afternoon so that we'd catch the day/night terminator in the US.
(For those of you who know this stuff, Pole Station standard time was the same as New Zealand, 12 hours off Greenwich. That might give you a better idea of when we were communicating.)
Apparently our main problem was that we were allowed to work only is a very small frequency range.
Sometimes someone would move in on us and (maybe) not know it. Then we were stuck.
But we had another great person in Costa Rica. He was our chaser.
He would politely inform them of the situation and ask them to move elsewhere on the band.
If they wouldn't he'd crank up his power (apparently he didn't have the limitations that US hams have) and blow them away.

Just reminiscing.

Posted by rolyrj ( 4 ) on Jul-05-07 at 02:48:08 PDT

Roger

Shhhhhhhsh

Roly

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-05-07 at 00:27:02 PDT

billsey -
Next time you are at Flathead Lake try to find a Moore 24 owner. Ther used to be a fleet of Moore 24's which raced there. Then you'll appreciate our offshore racing. Just for the record I once hit 17 knots coming in under the Golden Gate Bridge and 14's were pretty frequent offshore with a 10 ft swell and 15-18 knots of northwesterly wind.

Another great day was off San Louis Obispo on the way to Santa Barbara. With a clear sky and a wonderful steady breeze we covered 58 nautical miles in 6 hours, which isn't bad for a boat with a 23'9" waterline giving it a theoretical hull speed of just over 6 knots. Gives me a chance to show my favorite all time picture again. );>)
Sparrowhawk going under the GG Bridge near the end of a Double-Handed Farallons race at about 12 knots and preparing to jibe for the St Francis finsh line. My friend Mike was at the helm and I was handling the pole, and sails, during the jibe. Doesn't get much mre exciting!

Planing is fun, not surfing which most keel boats do when they catch a wave.

Roger

BTW - Did anyone take time to watch the America's Cup racing off Valencia, Spain during the past month? It was really good. The equality of the boat speeds put them within 30 meters (that's one boat length) of each other per 3 mile leg. I hate to say it but the SWISS won again, 5-2 over New Zealand. The crew were sharp as razors.

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-04-07 at 20:58:41 PDT

Roger… Hairy story, cool map!!!!

Jim

Posted by billsey ( 848

) on Jul-04-07 at 20:17:32 PDT

That is one nifty map Roger! Gerogia has a 24' as well, though we've got it on Flathead lake in Montana, and it's never seen salt water.

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-04-07 at 19:41:05 PDT

Aloha -
True sailing story of dark and stormy night between the Farallon Islands and San Francisco.

Once upon a time during the 1980's I was racing on a 24 footer during a moonless night returning from the Farallons under full spinnaker, great sailing! We saw the running lights of a tug coming from the north ( I don't remember the masthead light pattern now when a tug is towing a barge the pattern is distinctive). We looked close and also saw a very faint white stern light on a huge barge under tow. We didn't see any bow lights on the barge. We slowed down a little and changed course to take the stern of the barge. All was well as we went behind the tug and its tow.

Next weekend we heard that a 40 footer was in the boat yard under repair. It turned out they had also seen the tug and not recognizing the significance of the lights took the stern of the tug. Surprise!!!@@@!! The keel hit the underwater tow cable and yanked the racer sideways casuing all sorts of havoc on board. It was then they realized there was a barge coming down at them about 200 yards away. They were bing dragged sideways, but finally were able to get off the cable and tack back away from the barge!

The repair was to the leading edge of the keel which had a huge semi-circle carved into it by the steel tow cable. They were very lucky sailors.

Roger - always look in both directions before crossing the stern of a tug.
Enjoy this map http://www.boatingsf.com/ais_map.php)'>)

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1367

)

on Jul-04-07 at 19:25:37 PDT

member

INDYPEX 2007

is coming. :8^)
July 6, 7 & 8 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)

You can get more information at Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-04-07 at 17:00:50 PDT

rolyj… Well you don’t want Mars running into you either!!

Jim

Posted by rolyrj ( 4 ) on Jul-04-07 at 16:55:09 PDT

Click on any of the buttons on the left hand side of the page and that should start the banner rolling.

W6REC, good 'ole Duane. He was utterly convinced one very dark night whilst he was on sailing duties that a large freighter was bearing down on us in our 60' Yacht. He was told to keep an eye open for any red lights at night and wake the skipper immediately.
So the skipper got out of bed in a huge hurray ready to get out of the way of this freighter only to find that the red light Duane was seeing was Mars rising above the horizon......................

Cheers

Roly

Posted by stamphick! ( 338

) on Jul-04-07 at 16:39:23 PDT

Roly... With Firefox I hear no code and see no banner. With IE I hear CQ de ZL1BQD but still no banner.

Posted by dbenson ( 8364

)

on Jul-04-07 at 16:30:14 PDT

Paolo, Mitch, Knuden,

a better representation of the Sage 1c. Prussian Blue is the one on Sandafayre's site,

http://www.sandafayre.com/gallery/stamp_2385.htm

This is similar to the one in Mitch's collection but the colors of the scan on the site that Paolo linked to appears to be incorrect but it is most probably a scanning and not an identification problem,

David B.

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-04-07 at 15:45:37 PDT

Roly… I hear the Morse code but there’s no scrolling banner anywhere on the page, that I can find at least.

Jim

Posted by stamphick! ( 338

) on Jul-04-07 at 15:41:33 PDT

dcderoo...I never have but I've met people who have operated that station. I imagine it's still there if the navy is.

Posted by dcderoo ( 1669

) on Jul-04-07 at 15:23:55 PDT

Ever contacted KC4USN?
Actually I don't know if it still exists.

Posted by stamphick! ( 338

) on Jul-04-07 at 14:59:04 PDT

rolyrj...I just realized that I have seen photos of you operating. W6REC gave a slide presentation on Kermadec to the Northern California DX Club where I was a member.

Posted by rolyrj ( 4 ) on Jul-04-07 at 14:58:23 PDT

..--..

Posted by stamphick! ( 338

) on Jul-04-07 at 14:22:12 PDT

rolyrj...

Posted by rolyrj ( 4 ) on Jul-04-07 at 14:11:29 PDT

Incidentally, Under the "DXPEDITION" tab anyone game enough to suggest which are the three rarest cards shown? :)
Maybe even out them in order of rarity?

(Ham operators excluded...........) :)

Posted by rolyrj ( 4 ) on Jul-04-07 at 14:07:57 PDT

Ham Radio and stamps etc.

I also am a very active Ham Radio operator and have been to amny different countries (some very rare in terms of Ham Radio) and have literally 10,000's QSL cards.
However, only a handful really are worth the keeping.
Ham Radio operators will look at things like:
1. The rarity of the country
2. The Band of frequencies that the contact was made on
3. The Mode of operating (Single Sideband, Morse, etc)
4. The signal report given and received.

For those interested.............. have a look at my Ham Radio Site for just a few of the countries (the rarer oones) that I have visited and operated from.
Turn the sound up and you will hear morse code. To decifer it read the scolling banner across the top of the page :)

Cheers (73)

Roly, ZL1BQD

Posted by sayasan ( 679

)

on Jul-04-07 at 13:46:07 PDT

ibidhier - If you have the envelopes, do you also have the QSL cards? And if so, will you be selling them? Look at completed auctions in collectibles/radio/qsl cards and you'll see that some sell for quite decent prices depending on (usually) the rarity of the location. Much older cards (1930's) tend to do better also. Sometimes sellers put them into the stamp categories as a second category to attract philatelists rather than qsl collectors. I occasionally buy Burma qsl cards and occasionally sell worldwide cards, and it's still a bit of a mystery to me why some get snapped up and others go begging ...!

If you already know all this, as a ham operator, just ignore it!

Cheers
Richard W

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3710

)

on Jul-04-07 at 13:04:34 PDT

and suggested listing category: stamps, worldwide, covers

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3710

)

on Jul-04-07 at 13:03:33 PDT

ibidhier to your questions:
My question: is there any value or interest in such items to a stamp collector?

YES

Would the value be more if the stamps were on or off the envelope?

MOST LIKELY ON THE ENVELOPE

Due to the postmark, does this lessen the value or interest?

ON THE ENVELOPE IT WOULD LIKELY INCREASE INTEREST

What to I call an envelope with another countries stamp on it and postmarked?

USED ENVELOPES ARE CALLED COVERS

There is always an interest in covers posted from remote locations, such as Falkland Islands rather than France. If you were to offer them on eBay I am sure they would find interest as a lot.

A description could read 200 worldwide QSL covers and a nominal opening bid of $9.99 will attract attention.

hope this helps, Jeff

Posted by claghorn1p ( 411

)

on Jul-04-07 at 10:56:54 PDT

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Posted by postalhysteria ( 3710

)

on Jul-04-07 at 09:54:30 PDT

peetah it is a noticeable pattern in the paper, I am home and have nothing to scan to try to show you. It is typically directional, and can be used to separate the machine made papers from the handmade which are usually the better ones.

I think I got that correct.

Jeff

Posted by knuden ( 2292

)

on Jul-04-07 at 09:50:28 PDT

antonius-ra - The reason you doubt the color of the preusian blue stamp, must be due to a miscoloration of the scan. I will NEVER doubt Brun, if he say it's a preusian blue stamp, as he is one of the most knowingly experts of French stamp.
I think you would say the same to me, if I started to ask questions to an opinion from one of the most knowingly US expertizer. :O)

K.E I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by jimbo ( 397

)

on Jul-04-07 at 09:41:00 PDT

ibidhier,
Oftentimes QSL cards are offered here on eBay. They are frequently colorful and from interesting places. They seem to be readily saleable as complete cards. If what you have are envelopes rather than QSL cards, they should certainly remain intact. If they are from exotic places they will attract interest. The complete envelopes with cancelled stamps are of interest to postal historians. The postal markings, including the cancellation, are all of interest. While it used to be that only 'old' (before World War II - perhaps even World War I) envelopes were of particularly interest to postal historians, modern material (recent decades) is now finding a market as people try to capture the history before the market rises too much. The major descriptive term for such items is 'cover'. Then the country from which it was sent and the year would all be helpful. It may take more work but identifying the stamps - particularly if they are colorful large commemoratives - by catalogue number or at least the subject helps. Lots of people collect 'topicals.' Topicals show things in categories like dogs, maps, flags, etc. Mention of such things enhances interest.

jimbo

Posted by peetah ( 493

) on Jul-04-07 at 09:27:45 PDT

Canada / Newfoundland Collectors What is meant by "mesh" when used to describe Unitrade/Scott numbers 3 and 11A.
(SG numbers 3 and 11). Where is this "mesh" seen, what does it look like?

Posted by antonius-ra ( 637

)

on Jul-04-07 at 09:17:12 PDT

Paolo Neither one of those even look close to a Prussian Blue, to me. There are many stamps around of that hue and they are often mistaked for the good one. The correct color of one can be seen on this page

Posted by ibidhier ( 1031

) on Jul-04-07 at 09:06:56 PDT

Hello,
Let me try this again.sent unfinished inquire, my last post!
Not a collector or have no idea so I thought I would ask the help / opnions of the pro's here on eBay.
I am a "Ham" radio operator and have received many hundreds of envelopes with many various stamps from all over the world. These envelopes are in great condition with the stamps still attached and postmarked.

My question: is there any value or interest in such items to a stamp collector?

Would the value be more if the stamps were on or off the envelope?

Due to the postmark, does this lessen the value or interest?

What to I call an envelope with another countries stamp on it and postmarked?

Sincere thanks to any help offered.

Happy Holiday to all.

With kind regards,
(eBay id) ibidhier

Posted by ibidhier ( 1031

) on Jul-04-07 at 08:58:53 PDT

Hello,
Not a collector or have no idea so I thought I would ask the help / opnions of the pro's here on eBay.

I

Posted by ibidhier ( 1031

) on Jul-04-07 at 08:58:52 PDT

Hello,
Not a collector or have no idea so I thought I would ask the help / opnions of the pro's here on eBay.

I

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-04-07 at 07:48:21 PDT

HAPPY 4TH OF JULY!!

Jim

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-04-07 at 06:32:09 PDT

PAOLO------Agree with you ,the name behind the transaction is sometimes more important than a certificate.

Just a note to you to let you know that I had a conversion with Dr. BOB at his store yesterday .We discussed the stamp market ,with him being one of the largest purchasers of stamps in the U.S. He stated the prices he is getting for worldwide as the best ever and his problem is finding material to purchase .He joked that when he is looking at stamps to make a bid to buy he already knows who the buyer will be ,because the demand for decent stuff is growing .His staff is the best around and he sells everything with a guarentee ,so there is no shortage of buyers .He moves a awful lot of material and enjoys what he is doing.

This brings up a important point the sellers who make a living selling stamps on e-bay have sold off most of their inventory and will be trying to restock over the summer and into the fall which will help to push prices higher ....paul

Posted by vonbag ( 174

)

on Jul-04-07 at 05:45:13 PDT

Paul,
Of course, I perfectly undertsand your point.
But the seller is one of the best experts for French stamps, thus I presumed that is a genuine example for visual comparison.

Happy 4th of July!

Paolo

Posted by iomoon ( 1052

)

on Jul-04-07 at 05:08:00 PDT

Good day all.
Happy birthday America!

Happy
FourthofJuly

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1367

)

on Jul-04-07 at 04:48:57 PDT

Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
INDYPEX 2007

is coming. :8^)
July 6, 7 & 8 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)

You can get more information at Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
Some of the exhibits sound like they’ll be very interesting.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-04-07 at 04:22:43 PDT

Paolo-----That stamp should only be purchased with a certificate ,too easy to make a close copy and purchasing off of a computer screen is not too bright .

Posted by vonbag ( 174

)

on Jul-04-07 at 02:17:41 PDT

Good day all!

Several years ago, on this board there was a discussion regarding the Prussian Blue nuance of the paper of the 1c. black 'Type Sage' of France (I recall G1 and Christo also participated). I just found one good example of this rare nuance on the internet, here from this web page (there's also another one).

Paolo

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-03-07 at 18:15:44 PDT

Lindy… Thank you. We will throw an extra Barbie on the bar-b in your honor.

☺

Jim

Posted by mini*lindy ( 403

)

on Jul-03-07 at 18:06:33 PDT

David, yes that worked, as did peters from before that just 'hung' when I tried it a few hours ago!

Posted by dbenson ( 8364

)

on Jul-03-07 at 17:57:52 PDT

Linda

I use this one,

http://www.bulletinboards.com/v1.cfm?comcode=frajola&stm=yes&svalue=1

just checked it and it worked OK for me,

David B.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 403

)

on Jul-03-07 at 16:06:49 PDT

JayJim & Peter
I tried both of those links to Richard F's board and neither would load for me either.
I don't chat there, but tried the links out of curiosity.
Hope you all enjoy your July 4th holiday.

Linda

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-03-07 at 15:53:13 PDT

NOIP--------Worked only half a day ,because the guys wanted a early headstart to a day off. So I stopped at Doctor Bob's stamp store and picked up two lots which I won on E-bay they are the Vactian City stagecoach s/s and the Danzig 1939 issues under the German Admin. both hard to find MNH issues .

Only got about 1,000 more complete sets or s/s to buy to sort of round out my worldwide collection ....better pick up my buying at age 58 ,need to have a decent showing ......paul

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-03-07 at 15:04:08 PDT

buzones… Try this link to Richard F’s board. It should load within 10 seconds.

dr.search... Yep, you got me beat! It has cooled down here since a sea breeze has kicked up.

Jim

Posted by dr.searchphd ( 0 ) on Jul-03-07 at 12:45:54 PDT

ALL;

Have finished research on several 1700S large format documents and have a decision to make as to what to do with them.

Several of the items are secret groups formed to purchase important propertys as follows;

1824 indenture for 14yrs with the property EATON HALL
1768 indenture for 1,000yrs with the property CORPUS CHRISTI COLIEDGE(as spelled) for 1 barleycorn per year
This doc has 17 signers, 7 'marks of'
1796 3 JAMAICA sugar plantations between the PARKERS and the WASHINGTONS (geos half-brother LAWRENCE side) with 564 slaves named and listed by occupation.

A. Sell to collectors
B. Sell to the museums
C. Sell to dealers
D. Sell to the institutions as their 'legacy'?
E. ?

JAYWILDMAN;

Post my zip today and tommorrow 92247 for HOTT!
my pool is warmer than where your at :)

Posted by buzones ( 1011

)

on Jul-03-07 at 12:04:00 PDT

Jim I can't follow your experience with freenet.de but I will change the link and will store the picture on my private disk space to rule out further confusion. BTW: The Frajola board is loading since two hours now... :-(

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-03-07 at 11:36:14 PDT

Ralf… I’m sure there was nothing intentional on your part, but clicking the link automatically starts the loading of software onto my computer, probably spyware but perhaps worse. Luckily I was able to abort it in time. As reperf says it is probably a function of “freenet.de”. Many, many “free” or “public” sites accept money from vendors as a way of funding their operation, but the downside is that they have to accept advertising or some of its less palatable derivatives.

☺

Jim

Posted by buzones ( 1011

)

on Jul-03-07 at 11:26:59 PDT

jaywild Pardon? I use this link to my Postal History site on all boards and forums for years in Germany, Spain and worldwide and never heard something similar from anyone else. What's the problem? I didn't want to harm anybody here and I'm absolutely sure that this link is clean. Please let me know what happened to you when opening the site!

Regards, Ralf

Posted by reperf ( 35

) on Jul-03-07 at 09:20:41 PDT

jaywild

Add http://people.freenet.de to the restricted sites in your browser. In Internet Explorer the path is from the menu Tools -> Internet Options and then the Security tab and click on the Restricted Sites icon and then the Sites button and replace the URL shown (although restricting http://chatboards.ebay.com might not be a bad idea) with http://people.freenet.de or http://*.freenet.de and then click the Add button.

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3710

)

on Jul-03-07 at 08:45:28 PDT

Interesting thing about the cover is that it is a proper 3rd class mailing, hence re-mailed (not forwarded) to another individual with the addition of the half-cent adhesive, improperly giving credit to the original 1-1/2 cents third class postage.

inverted year for bjorn

In all a very esoteric item for the 4th bureau collector and likely worth the opening price, which at first look looks steep.

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-03-07 at 06:55:26 PDT

NOIP… DON’T click on buzones’ illustrated link unless you want unneeded, unasked for software installed on your computer.

buzones I have reported your post. You could save us time by getting rid of it yourself, and please, in the future, DON’T post anything similar. Nobody likes to be hijacked on the sly.

Jim

Posted by greenwave4u ( 78

)

on Jul-03-07 at 05:46:06 PDT

Ralf Not a problem viewing from UK. The new board is slow to load and I alway view last day to make it quicker.
http://www.bulletinboards.com/v1.cfm?comcode=frajola&stm=yes&svalue=1

cheers
Peter

Posted by buzones ( 1011

)

on Jul-03-07 at 04:57:19 PDT

Roger

Thanks for your answer. I don't know where the problem is but I can't access the RF-board with none of my browsers (Safari, IE, Firefox, Mozilla, Opera etc.pp.), neither at home (Mac) nor from my workplace in the library (Win). No "404" warning or similar, just "nothing". Could it be an "international" problem?

Ralf

Posted by soccers_cn1 ( 34

)

on Jul-03-07 at 04:42:03 PDT

http://bp3.blogger.com/_8AMmfBQS1QA/RooxLi8FXEI/AAAAAAAAB1I/SIgwS4uD7w0/s320/2007-06-27+Korea+History.JPG
1 Republic of Korea History FDC I got today.
You can find more real posted FDC in my blog.
http://myfdc.blogspot.com/

Posted by cobbie10 ( 6283

)

on Jul-03-07 at 04:37:58 PDT

19thcentpostal

I have a similar book ending this afternoon.

Posted by cwhutch ( 656

)

on Jul-03-07 at 03:25:01 PDT

Good morning.

Hutch

Posted by malolo ( 845

)

on Jul-03-07 at 03:03:39 PDT

Aloha Ralf -
I click on the link to Richard's Board and it works! Opens right to the newest post by Steve Taylor. Not sure why you can't access the Board. I'm going to bed now so can't help for about 7 hours.

Roger

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1367

)

on Jul-03-07 at 02:40:46 PDT

Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
INDYPEX 2007

is coming. :8^)
July 6, 7 & 8 [these are the correct dates]at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)

You can get more information at Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
Some of the exhibits sound like they’ll be very interesting.

Posted by rolyrj ( 4 ) on Jul-03-07 at 02:38:47 PDT

Jeff

Do a Google on "MyHopper KMH4C" and you will find a heap of willing vendors. They really are excellent and I am sure it will do the job for you.

Cheers

Roly

Posted by oregonuofoducks ( 1774

)

on Jul-03-07 at 00:45:59 PDT

Help eBay improve eBay

The goal is to make eBay a place that is easy to use and meets your needs. Spend a few hours with eBay and tell them what you think of eBay. Your comments will be translated directly into improvements, so your opinion really counts.

http://pages.ebay.com/community/people/researchpanel/

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 195

)

on Jul-02-07 at 23:08:37 PDT

jaywild Thank you very much for posting the 'Hanmer Guide'. Thats another book I need to have.
Lynn

Posted by antonius-ra ( 637

)

on Jul-02-07 at 23:06:46 PDT

Soggy Not sure what the problem could be.
If you email either me or Billsey with the details we will be sure you get registered. Include Full name, ebay user ID, state-country, email address, membership in other philatelic clubs/societies and collecting interests.

Posted by soggy333 ( 55

) on Jul-02-07 at 22:24:23 PDT

How do I join EUSC if my computer will not email the registration data?

Posted by antonius-ra ( 637

)

on Jul-02-07 at 22:09:49 PDT

EUSC Members I will no longer be welcoming new members. I did so the other day and posted their names, ebay user ID's, country of origin and what their interests were.
NO CONTACT INFORMATION WAS REVEALED!!!!!

I recieved a warning this A.M. from ebay for a posting verboten, i.e. contact info. It sure is nice to know that the board moderators know how to read, LOL.

If the person who reported that post would email me, we could chat.

el Presidente'

Posted by claghorn1p ( 411

)

on Jul-02-07 at 21:43:05 PDT

philatelicphil I think you are confused by category hierarchy. Because categories are different in different country's versions of eBay general searches give varying values depending on how the search is set up.

Posted by philatelicphil ( 289

) on Jul-02-07 at 20:35:40 PDT

I have a question about the number of items listed in a particular category. Example on ebay.com under GB FDC's it shows around 150 items but when I go to ebay.co.uk it shows around 6,000 items. I have checked my search scope and it is on worldwide. Any ideas. Phil

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3710

)

on Jul-02-07 at 19:57:44 PDT

Thanks Roly but for some unknown reason the .pdf link wouldn't go to a working page, or open or whatever. I have acrobat and can usually open .pdf files. Maybe when I get to the office tomorrow on my Mac.

I did go to their home page. What specific model should I be looking at?

Jeff

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1367

)

on Jul-02-07 at 19:19:11 PDT

member

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Jul-02-07 at 17:42:46 PDT

Jaywild
Nice cancels thanks for sharing

Yer not me
why not put in a more readable and concise format instead of the way you do it ( will be gone soon I imagine)

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-02-07 at 17:30:14 PDT

NOIP… This went really cheap.

Jim

Posted by rolyrj ( 4 ) on Jul-02-07 at 16:47:07 PDT

Jeff

I can highly recommend these KVM Switches. We use them in the Broadcast Industry all the time and have no problems with them at all. You can get either 2-way or 4-way versions. And the price is more than reasonable. I have not found any compatability issues with this switch and all the Mouse functions (eg scroll mouse etc) work fine.

Hope this helps
Cheers

Roly

Posted by vonbag ( 174

)

on Jul-02-07 at 14:36:48 PDT

OPS! You had already C'd YE!
;-)
Good continuation,
Paolo
((still some hundreds of Standing Helvetia waiting to be passed through closer scrutiny, with the verbal and visual aid of the Zumstein Special: I have already found some 'striking' retouches inside of the oval, but not the rarest -- and relatively more evident -- ones, unfortunately. I will probably go to bed with a headache as I want to pass each and every stamp under a 10X magnifier and put apart anything that looks 'unusual', including the blurred printings, hair lines and those colored dots that sometimes appear also on the margins; by doing so, I hope to find some little repetitive plate faults which could be of use in the plating)).

Posted by vonbag ( 174

)

on Jul-02-07 at 14:24:11 PDT

David B.,
CYE, please.

Paolo

Posted by peterc8888 ( 327

) on Jul-02-07 at 13:34:42 PDT

Jeff

You may want to check with the KVM switch company first to make sure which KVM switch can be used for both PC and MAC. Also, it depends on whether you're using PS/2 or USB. I'm not familiar with Mac. You also need to find out whether the devices (mouse/keyboard/monitor) have any problem with KVM switch.

Using KVM switch may take away some features in your devices.

PC

Posted by greenwave4u ( 78

)

on Jul-02-07 at 12:49:24 PDT

Welcome to the eBay Stamps Chat Board!

It would be greatly appreciated if chat board participants
provide LINKS to pictures
rather than posting them directly to this board.
Here's how to post a LINK. Thanks.

Yellow Boxes

You're new to stamp trading?
You've acquired a stamp collection you want to sell on eBay?
Check out these links:

Chosen links will open in a new window

This is a community creation by eBay Stamp Board users. Thanks to all who contribute!
Click here for board code download.

06/28/07

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3710

)

on Jul-02-07 at 11:27:57 PDT

Thanks Peter! It looks like they are plentiful on eBay.

Jeff

Posted by iomoon ( 1052

)

on Jul-02-07 at 11:19:10 PDT

Sure thing Bjorn.

Posted by bjornmu ( 935

) on Jul-02-07 at 11:10:38 PDT

BTW, iomoon, would you be interested in getting a postcard from Vestmannaeyar? I'm sure I can find one with a volcanic motive, but can't promise anything about the stamp. I'm off on vacation to the Faores and Iceland on Thursday morning. :-)

Posted by iomoon ( 1052

)

on Jul-02-07 at 10:41:23 PDT

Jim

Nope, I turn into a big rock.
Have to wait for someone called Arthur to come along to get rid of the stabbing pain in my back.
Thrown on the fire, gold stuff oozes out.

Posted by paperhistory ( 1986

)

on Jul-02-07 at 10:41:12 PDT

as long as Jim doesn't start wandering around calling everything "my precious" we are probably OK.

Posted by jaywild ( 956

)

on Jul-02-07 at 10:34:52 PDT

Io… Some questions—

When you put the ring on, do you disappear?
Did you have to murder someone named Deagol to get it?
Do strange characters appear on its surface when you throw it in the fire?

Just wondering…

Gandalf

Posted by bjornmu ( 935

) on Jul-02-07 at 10:21:43 PDT

Knuden, OK now I understand. The Norwegian stamp is for RADIO TAX, may be found stuck on old radios.

Posted by peterc8888 ( 327

) on Jul-02-07 at 10:10:34 PDT

Jeff

You can get a KVM Switch.

PC

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3710

)

on Jul-02-07 at 10:07:01 PDT

Question for the stamps/technology board...

I am relocating everything back home, is it possible to hook up 2 computers to one monitor to eliminate reconnecting when changing computers. I have PC at home and mac from office.

Jeff

Posted by iomoon ( 1052

)

on Jul-02-07 at 09:18:33 PDT

Good day all.

Whoopee, found my year-long-lost wedding ring.
Seems when I was cleaning the roof gutters at my brother-in-laws house it must have come off when I threw piles of wet leaves to the ground.
While weeding beneath same spot, low and behold there was the ring.

Posted by soccers_cn1 ( 34

)

on Jul-02-07 at 05:12:49 PDT

http://bp3.blogger.com/_8AMmfBQS1QA/RojmNC8FXDI/AAAAAAAAB1A/QSSV8U8DcYI/s320/2007-06-23+Argentina+War.JPG
1 Argentina War FDC I got today.
You can find more real posted FDC in my blog.
http://myfdc.blogspot.com/

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1367

)

on Jul-02-07 at 03:37:58 PDT

Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
INDYPEX 2007

is coming. :8^)
July 9, 10 & 11 at the Convention Center 500 Ballroom
(100 South Capitol, Indianapolis, Indiana)

You can get more information at Indiana Stamp Club's Home Page
Some of the exhibits sound like they’ll be very interesting.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Jul-02-07 at 03:30:09 PDT

thanks KNUDEN

Here is a better scan of the two stamps from my collection ......Polish Forces in Italy ... BLACK MODONNA ....off to work and coffee and a donut..breakfest of champions ...paul

Posted by knuden ( 2292

)

on Jul-02-07 at 02:32:45 PDT

Bjornmu & PC - I'm sure the one Paul is talking about, is the one in the middle in row 2 on Lynn's scan. I guess he thought the one Bjornmu was talking about was from this scan and not Micthell's. :O)
The Norwegian I'm talking about is from this scan of Lynn.

K.E I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by dbenson ( 8364

)

on Jul-02-07 at 02:28:15 PDT

Peter,

try these,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Polish-Army-in-Italy-MNH_W0QQitemZ270137439617QQihZ017QQcategoryZ47168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

David B.

Posted by peterc8888 ( 327

) on Jul-02-07 at 01:11:28 PDT

Knuden

I guess I got confused too about which stamp. But I guess the tall gray imperf stamp is the one Paul talking about.

PC

Posted by bjornmu ( 935

) on Jul-02-07 at 01:01:35 PDT

Knuden, morn morn! Now I'm utterly confused: what stamps are we actually talking about? I thought it was Mitch's "whatsits" from yesterday, but I see no Black Madonna or Norwegian stamp there.

Posted by knuden ( 2292

)

on Jul-02-07 at 00:53:12 PDT

Bjornmu - morn morn. :O) I guess the Polish stamp, which Paul mentions, is the one beside with the Black Madonna. This is correct from the Polish Forces in Italy.
The one at left looks like a revenue of a kind.
Can you tell what the Norwegian stamp is (Number to left, Row 1)?

K.E I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by peterc8888 ( 327

) on Jul-02-07 at 00:47:57 PDT