eBay chatboard archive: Mar-10-08 to Mar-16-08 week

Posted by dbenson   ( 8960 ) on Mar-16-08 at 23:59:56 PDT   Listings
Jay,

I think you are correct, Paul did proclaim the Egypt block as a forgery, just add it the myriads of other items he knew nothing about and proclaimed them to be fakes as well,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8960 ) on Mar-16-08 at 23:38:48 PDT   Listings
Jay,

is this what you were looking for,

http://cgi.ebay.com/NORTHERN-RHODESIA-1938-52-1-d-TICK-BIRD-FLAW-MNH-C-95_W0QQitemZ360029971574QQihZ023QQcategoryZ90895QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


David B.
Posted by theottawamike   ( 193 ) on Mar-16-08 at 22:58:09 PDT   Listings
My, what a friendly place.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 21:19:57 PDT   Listings
JAY------Wait a minute ,I got a lot of friends here and don't agree with everything they say or post.They also don't support or condole with everything I post .We all stand on our own here .

The matter your refering to was while I wasn't on the board and no reason to say something after the issue was blown over.

What is upsetting to everyone one here is when a few people who don't have a dog in the fight but just comes on here to say something negative about one of the people taking issue over a point that they have themselfs no intelligent viewpoint other than just say something negative . Thats what started the whole "LAPDOG " thing ,guess they just like to bark at someone .

Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 21:08:20 PDT   Listings
Jeff S… Thanks for the dated precancel info. That’s a good site.

Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 590 ) on Mar-16-08 at 21:04:22 PDT   Listings
Oh No! Jim, I'd never go out in that heat for anything, not even F1 GP, I watched the race from the comfort of my living room with the a/c turned up full blast!
My son attends them all, but as a sporting journalist he gets to sit in the a/c comfort of the News Desk Offices.
I watch all the races of the season, they are usually on tv around Midnight Sunday here! Live, so I'm bleary eyed on Monday at the rag and bone shop, and miss some bargains!
:)
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:58:01 PDT   Listings
Lilndy… I am answering you separately, since I expect my previous post will soon be yanked into the ether…



Thanks for the Grand Prix info. Were you there, did you attend, holding a cute little parasol???

Jim
Posted by wrd3   ( 104 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:56:21 PDT   Listings
NOIP does anyone recognize the cancel in this lot? I've not seen anything similar, but frankly I don't look at cancellations that often.

Bill D.
Posted by peetah   ( 527 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:56:11 PDT   Listings
abt1950 Go to the head of the class! Yes, the expertiser noted the flaw and plated them by position as well. The Nile Post Handbook and Catalogue of the Stamps of Egypt. Sound like an interesting title? Hope you captured the image this time.
I'll have more on the Chinese Guide Line Block of 4 in a couple weeks.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:55:57 PDT   Listings
Paul… Let me say something that I encourage you to take as a simple statement of fact. Those who behave like trolls on this chatboard should expect to be treated like trolls. Please think back to the savaging your cave-bear friend did to Anne the other day before you go off on me for being out of place, and the attack on Anne was not an isolated incident. I don’t care what remarks he makes about me; it’s to be expected from the kind of instability your friend suffers from.

If you are interested in serenity and companionability on this board, perhaps you might direct some constructive suggestions towards your friend. But please do it privately.

Jim
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:49:48 PDT   Listings
Good night to all and to all sweet dreams (especially to due2cents), of spectacular blocks, about-to-be newly elected EUSC officials, and about-to-be retiring ones. Anne
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:35:09 PDT   Listings
Yep that's me, but I would never presume that I could upstage YOU!
At least you knew whom I was correctly referring too, if the shoe fits...............
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:32:16 PDT   Listings
MITCH------ARE YOU SLOW OR SOMETHING ??????...... save the physical insults about others ,there not needed here or wanted.
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:29:42 PDT   Listings
due2cents
Now I figured out who you are, I think.??
You still working with Naval Covers??
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 590 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:26:15 PDT   Listings
Jim,
1st Lewis Hamilton the world champion of 07 (UK)
2nd Nick Heidfeld (Germany)
3rd Nico Roseberg

of the 22 starters only 7 finished in the heat/ pileups/ mechanical failures, and then one of them was disqualified for jumping a red light in pitlane !! (Rubens Barrichello)

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:25:12 PDT   Listings
JAY ----- ,it was me who agreed with him to get it expertized . That means he said he wanted it checked out and thats when i agreed with his statement .Think it had some weird perforation and the question on the board was about how he was reading the perfs.
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:18:39 PDT   Listings
jimjung: One last thing about do-it-yourself album pages that didn't get mentioned. Use acid-free paper. That's why one poster suggested the Hammermill brand.

Anne
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:14:47 PDT   Listings
great we don't even get a sweet dreams message anymore ;-{
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:14:44 PDT   Listings
Lindy… So who won the Grand Prix??

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:12:32 PDT   Listings
peetah… Congratulations on your great find! Paul, was it you that posted here that that Egypt block was a forgery? Can’t quite remember but am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt…

Jim
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:03:45 PDT   Listings
More congrats to D1 on his gold medal--not that it's surprising.

Paolo, Thanks. I've missed all the crazies here.

Belated happy birthdays to everyone who is now one year older than before.

Peetah: I'm drooling at that block of 22cs. It looked real to me when you first posted it. Unfortunately, I didn't download the image, so it scrolled off before I could find my catalogs.

Did your expertiser check for plate flaws? This issue is notorious for them--which is one of the things that makes it fun. The best catalog for this stuff is the Nile Post catalog by Joe Chaloub and Charlie Hass. Take a look at the middle stamp in the top row. There's a white patch to the left of the Sphinx and also on the right top of the Sphinx's head. I think this one is listed in the NP as D26tt. Pos. 112, setting A, B. A known flaw with a nice premium.

As I said, I'm drooling. If my keyboard shorts out, you're responsible.

Anne
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 590 ) on Mar-16-08 at 20:03:09 PDT   Listings
Congratulations Dave, well done, I know you work hard on your collections, glad it is recognised. Does this mean we get cake with our Tea today?
:o) L.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1496 ) on Mar-16-08 at 19:42:57 PDT   Listings

D1… Congrats on your gold medal
Jim L.

member
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 19:25:08 PDT   Listings
D1… Congratulations on your gold medal!

Here’s a nice item that just closed on eBay. Too rich for my blood at $202, but a nice Sanitary Commission marking on the back.

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-16-08 at 19:20:28 PDT   Listings
Napoleanic complex guy He is 6'5" and 230 pounds (same as me) I would love to see him stomp his number 13 shoe on your head. 215 lbs big woop, I'm so impressed.
Still, not bad for an old short guy.

I think it would be fitting if you showed jimjung27
some of your most eloguent page making talents?
He would probably appreciate a good laugh.

New readers and Collectors Please be aware that there are a couple trolls here that have heads positioned in such away that the "true light" will never be seen by them.
Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-16-08 at 18:06:57 PDT   Listings
Good day all from very dark Shoes!

David B. and Roger,
Thanks for your kind comments, and observations!

Spain_1850,
Nice to see you posting!
I have been a bit on and off on this board lately, for various reasons.

Anne,
Nice to see you posting, as well! ;-)

Burton,
Although belatedly, A very Happy Birthday!

Greetings,
Paolo


Posted by peetah   ( 527 ) on Mar-16-08 at 18:01:29 PDT   Listings
To all who were interested, here is an update of this Egypt block of 9
It is indeed Scott 22c which is attributed to be rough perfed 13 1/2 by 12 1/2.
I will be getting a Certificate. I met personally with the expertiser today. He is known to 3 dealers I have known for years and all 3 agree, if he asserts it to be 22c, then it is 22c.
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-16-08 at 17:55:51 PDT   Listings
Evening/morning/afternoon from a dark NJ.

If voting is still open, I cast my ballot for milenko, greenwave4u, bilsey, and paperhistory.

I also nominate dcdroo for EUSC travel agent. Spectacular pictures.


Anne


Anne
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 16:02:42 PDT   Listings
I remember my father was asked to provide his birth certificate in order to prove his age to get his old age pension payments.

He had to send letters to China to ask the Chinese government for this birth certificate.

He phoned me one day to tell me he got it and I went over to see him. He showed it to me and it was on parchment paper about 6 x 8 inches, handwritten in Chinese using ink brush.

This was about ten years ago.
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-16-08 at 15:27:36 PDT   Listings
A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL!!
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 15:21:51 PDT   Listings
Sorry. yeah, it looked very different.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-16-08 at 15:08:35 PDT   Listings
jimjung, not the engraver, the engraver engraves the master die. Those types of guidelines were to assist the platemaker in aligning the position of the entry onto the plate.

The guideline mentioned yesterday is a different type, it is for accounting purposes and were never erased,

David B.
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:58:23 PDT   Listings
While studying re-entries, I ran into a number of guidelines and have stamps with guidelines on them now.

The lines are extremely thin, thinner than the outer framelines and usually cross through a guide dot when in the margins or part of the design when the design is used to hide them.

They are supposed to be erased from the plate prior to printing the stamps and are used to assist the engraver in creating the design horizontally and vertically straight.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:49:50 PDT   Listings
D1,

It's GOLD, GOLD, GOLD for Queensland,

David B.

Posted by bradstonian   ( 1479 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:35:08 PDT   Listings
Good evening,

I would like to add my endorsement of Milenko for president; also my thanks to those who served last year.

While I am here, can anyone tell me how early Britsh presentation packs are collected; does removing the outer wrapping (which can shrink and distort the contents) destroy the value?

Many thanks,

Martin.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:28:01 PDT   Listings
JAYWILD -------You need to stop this criticism of peoples physical characteristic ,your not exactley body building material yourself .
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3971 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:22:32 PDT   Listings

Here is a handy precancel reference page, scroll down a bit for info on dated precancels.

Posted by de66   ( 1225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:17:54 PDT   Listings
Make that 'Canberra'
Posted by de66   ( 1225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:17:07 PDT   Listings
Canberrs Stamp Show over for another year.

A good time had by all, results are up on the APF web site: http://www.apf.org.au/

My exhibit jumped 2 medals up so i am a happy boy.

D1
Posted by stampmad   ( 1095 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:12:43 PDT   Listings
i certainly endorse Milenko as the incoming president and my thanks to the officers for the past year,

Peter Congrats on your Stamp Magazine article.

Marius
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:10:58 PDT   Listings
NOIP… If you feed trolls they just get fat.



Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 14:08:18 PDT   Listings
bjorn… I was under the impression that the initials and date were applied by the company when they did their mailings, so the order of the notations would naturally vary. In this they would be like perfins, a way of controlling unauthorized use. There are other board frequenters, like Jeff S, who probably know more on the subject.

Jim
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1002 ) on Mar-16-08 at 13:47:29 PDT   Listings
Ok, now the seller says the error is that the precancel says "50 FEB" when it should have been "FEB 50"?
Posted by afeht   ( 1283 ) on Mar-16-08 at 13:45:46 PDT   Listings
Jaywild, what is your problem? Paul was first to correctly identify "MW" as "Montgomery Wards," and there was no need to explain, as you did, that "Feb 50" stands for "February 1950," since it is painfully obvious.

In your urge for instant gratification, you make yourself a laughing stock several times a day. I can only describe your idle activity here as "electronic loitering." Don't you have any work to do? Get a dog.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 13:32:35 PDT   Listings
Paul… I’m afraid you’re wrong again. I have known about dated precancels for quite some time, in fact have used them to pin down rates, such as this Sears parcel tag.

Jim
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1002 ) on Mar-16-08 at 13:31:50 PDT   Listings
Paul, yes our Februarys (or is that Februaries?) don't have 50 days either, I know that!!! But this stamp was presented as being a wrong date, which I suspected was not the case.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-16-08 at 13:23:46 PDT   Listings
Alex, it all boils down to the shortage of ink during WWI and I agree that 1000 is excessive but that is just a list and I think the general accepted color variances is about 200.

Bring up the subject on the Australian Chat board and there will be some members who only collect 1d. Reds and they could most probably name the 200 of the top of their heads and be able to sort them blindfolded.

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 13:21:11 PDT   Listings
BJORNMU-----two things - first in U.S. our calenders don't go to 50 for a date .Second I think Jay got his information from a previous posting ,maybe you can scan down and see ,thanks
Posted by afeht   ( 1283 ) on Mar-16-08 at 13:19:32 PDT   Listings
David,

1000 shades of 1d red GV? Surely this is excessive!

I've got about 200 copies here (not counting a few with multiple watermark, 14.2 line perforation, etc.. Die II, etc. -- didn't find any Die III stamps yet). I am not color blind but I can discern about 5, maybe 6 main color variety groups. Yes, there are gradations "from pale to deep," as B&W puts it, and I am sure I don't have the rarest shades. But even 28 shades in B&W seem to be too many.

Michel has a sensible policy of dropping transitional shade listings from their catalog, when it can be proved beyond doubt, by demonstrating a study, that there is a continuous spectrum of shades from one distinct color to another.

About 10 years ago I did such a study with several thousands of copies of the 20pf ultramarine/blue/violet Germania WWI stamp (starting with the beginning of the transitional period in 1911, and ending in 1921 - if I remember correctly), demonstrating that, while the light blue shade was more or less distinct in its many variations, one could build a continuous spectrum from ultramarine to violet with gradual, almost imperceptible change from one stamp to the next.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 13:14:38 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. ------We disagree ,I don't trust something that I see on a scan and in this case will take the approach that someone just took a fine point pen to that block and drew a line .If you can't accept that so be it .
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1002 ) on Mar-16-08 at 13:09:24 PDT   Listings
Jim, thanks, I suspected the 50 was actually the year, not the date.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-16-08 at 12:59:59 PDT   Listings
Paul,

this your comment from yesterday,

" PEETAH------Thats no guide line .Its what I call creative artwork .Done by someone with a ruler and a black pen ".

seems to me that you have made a definite statement, only experts should make definite statements, anyone else should just make opinions,

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 12:47:20 PDT   Listings
bjorn… “MW 50 Feb” stands for “Montgomery Ward, February 1950”. These are known as dated precancels. The most common by far are yours (MW) and SRC, which stands for Sears Roebuck & Company.

Jim
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 12:46:28 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. --------Your the only so call expert that can make a positive call from a scan ,it needs to be seen before any Expert can say for sure if its a guideline between the top two stamps and the bottom two . As far as im concern it needs to be seen in person and not called for sure until its viewed .
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-16-08 at 12:37:48 PDT   Listings
Paul,

as usual, trying to change the subject after you have made a mistake, however the block which was shown yesterday does have a definite guideline unlike the hand drawn monstrosities you just created,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 12:27:08 PDT   Listings
money wards ==monkey wards
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 12:26:28 PDT   Listings
MW-----Montgomery Wards {money wards } a large mail order firm
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 12:21:58 PDT   Listings
NOIP-----David is right, here are more of his China stamps with guidelines CHINESE GUIDELINES ....paul
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1002 ) on Mar-16-08 at 12:11:31 PDT   Listings
Oops, forgot to include the URL: MW-50 FEB
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1002 ) on Mar-16-08 at 12:10:45 PDT   Listings
US precancel question: can anyone confirm that the black text on top was supposed to be a date? And what does MW mean?
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-16-08 at 11:53:14 PDT   Listings
Obscure stamps and usage:

Here is a set of Chilean stamps (around 1910) that was hand overprinted with "ISLA DE MAS AFUERA". That's the old name of the westernmost island in the Juan Fernandez archipelago (See here). Robinson crusoe lived 4 years in the eastern island.

There was a "high security" jail in the island and the stamps were overprinted for the mail between the jail interns and the mainland. Usually they were cancelled with a "M. de J." mark, initials of "Justice Ministry".

Stamps were officialy approved by a government decree, but they're unilsted in most catalogues. They're quite rare and forgeries are common.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-16-08 at 11:48:33 PDT   Listings
Alex,

BW only breaks them into groups, specialised handbooks lists the shades, I think one has 400 and another has over 1000,. I think I would have trouble naming 400 Reds let alone 1000.

btw,

I didn't see any comments from you about Paul's howler that the line was handrawn,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-16-08 at 11:48:21 PDT   Listings
JIMJUNG 27 You got some good information from Bill D./WRD3 ,Dragonstamps and Nick/Kathmoon about album pages .But the hardest part is to start the layout process were you start to put order into all the material collected .

Start with a notebook binder as suggested below and use blank three hole punch paper .Start your layouts of stamps and covers and use the blank pages to make notes and write information on the pages .As time goes by and your adding material and more pages ,thats when you start to see what your collection will become .Thats the point to start thinking about formal layouts and displays and all the stuff like page colors,fonts and how much research you want to include in your write ups .

The problem with formal pages right off is that you will end up destroying a lot of pages and work as your collection expands .My advice go with the hand made pages and info/research hand written until your collection takes shape ....paul

Posted by afeht   ( 1283 ) on Mar-16-08 at 11:38:40 PDT   Listings
sayasan, how true. All things considered, jaywild's personality is a bit sad, rather than funny. But I can't refrain from laughter, as he hoists himself on his own petards again, and again, and again...
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 11:05:15 PDT   Listings
wrd3,

Thanks for the links - I have them bookmarked for reference. They look good and have me thinking of how to organize some of my stamps.

I'll probably come up with a few attempts since I've been moving my stamps around on Minkus pages and have added numerous extra stamps on pages to try to get a nice look.

Really, I'm at the point where I need more space and have been using extra stock pages, album pages and binders to try to hold the excess.

I promised my kids I'd go ice skating with them. I'm off.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 501 ) on Mar-16-08 at 10:59:05 PDT   Listings
jimjung27: I've used MS Word and it works, but I eventually went to AlbumGen. It's pretty good for doing 8.5x11 pages.
And if you also get EZ stamp from the same company you can import images to the page. I would only recommend that stage if you have a laser printer or are using mounts.
I buy the cheap 1" binders at Staples, they do the job well. Plus the heavy Hammermill paper they have there is perfect for pages with mounts. It works well for hinged stamps as well.

The only drawback is that you start to split your time between working on stamps and page design. It's going to take a fair amount of your time to design the pages.
Posted by kathmoon   ( 465 ) on Mar-16-08 at 10:45:16 PDT   Listings
jimjung27, I use a program called AlbumGen. It takes a little practice and is a little slow going until you do a few practice pages. It has several page border and stamp border options. If you want, I can scan a few pages and attach them to an E-mail to show you what they look like. I do not know how to "link" them here. I have been very pleased with the results. However, if you are doing an entire country, it might be a real chore. Nick
Posted by wrd3   ( 104 ) on Mar-16-08 at 10:31:09 PDT   Listings
jimjung27 creation of album pages has been a topic of discussion on this board periodically over the years. Many of the board participants create their own pages ..... the result can range from Paul's handwritten pages (which he shows periodically when he finds items of interest) to very elaborate pages created on computer. Many people use Bill Steiner's pages, which provide a good basic album for essentially all countries which have issued stamps. His pages are based on the Scott catalog, so if a stamp isn't in the Scott catalog it generally won't be in his pages. Jim Griffith's album pages include "A Guide to Custom Album Pages", which has good information on creating your own album pages.

Personally I use several approaches to creating my own album pages. I use Bill Steiner's pages for most countries. For those countries where I have more in-depth interest, I create my own album pages in Lotus Freelance, where I have created page borders that look like Bill's so they merge into the other pages and look good. I created my own album for United States Bureau Precancels years ago, and sent them to Bill. Those are the Bureau precancel pages on his site. For my US perfins album I created pages in Lotus Freelance. For US town and type precancels I've created pages using the Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet.

I know others use Microsoft Word and other programs to create their pages. You can use almost any decent software package to create your own album pages. I think the key is to decide the basic layout first (borders, margins, fonts, etc), then lay out the pages to look nice within those parameters.

Bill D.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1002 ) on Mar-16-08 at 10:04:27 PDT   Listings
Jimjung, My guess is that the postmark is from SYROS.

It's been snowing for two hours and the temp is 0.0 C and falling, looks good for skiing conditions in the hills during the Easter break. :-)

Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 09:52:47 PDT   Listings
Here's a Greek folded letter that I know little about. There's a hs cds dated May 14, 1883 and nothing else. I can't read the letter aside from the dates and the numbers as it appears to be in the greek language.

The early printings of these Greek stamps are interesting , though.
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 09:45:12 PDT   Listings
I think I'd have to do a lot of research and add to my collection before I could enter an exhibit but maybe in the future.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1002 ) on Mar-16-08 at 08:59:59 PDT   Listings
Obscure: Here are some more or less obscure items from my collection, all of which were included in my one-frame exhibit (and I think I've shown one or two before here):

A cover from Oberschlesien postmarked HINDENBURG on the 34th of March, 1921. And yes, the city was named after the general who would later become president of Germany.

A philatelic cover with stamps from Geman occupied Romania in WWI, postmarked BUKAREST on the 31th of November 1917. November only has 30 days...

And one from British Antarctic Territory, postmarked Brabant Island 17 FEB 1983, but the post office opened on that date in 1984.

I now have postmark error items from 94 different countries or postal authorities/stamp issuers. Including some more obscure ones. like Lemnos (Greek occupation), Tristan da Cunha and Fernando Poo. But I still miss some unobscure ones, like post-WWII Germany!
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 08:29:20 PDT   Listings
I've been told that I should create my own album pages for my collection, since I have varieties and such of the same stamp or small groups like this that would look nice together.

Not sure where to start. I'd probably use Microsoft Word and try a few things out.

I think this might lead to displaying them in stamp shows in the future.
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 08:11:28 PDT   Listings
jaywild,

Well, here's the lot.

And, a 6c Small Queen with a 4 ring 1 purple cancel. that is one that is staying in my collection.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-16-08 at 08:03:01 PDT   Listings
Today is our first day of 2008 with 12 hours of daylight.

Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 07:58:28 PDT   Listings
jimjung… If you have that many loose stamps with that cancel it should make an impressive album display.

Jim
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 07:43:02 PDT   Listings
postalhysteria,

Well, I have a 1c, 2c and a couple of 3c examples. The one in the scan showed the largest portion of the cancellation mark. I do like a rare cancellation mark and hoard a few myself.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3971 ) on Mar-16-08 at 07:38:13 PDT   Listings

Jimjung27 - I have a friend who has an example on cover or card for each day it was in use.

Dang obsessive collectors!!

Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 07:35:23 PDT   Listings
Thanks for the info. I think that the rarity makes it good enough for my collection. Possibly, the item will gain some popularity and increase in value.

I can see the value in this stamp, on cover, with the full cancellation mark. That would look nice.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-16-08 at 07:26:29 PDT   Listings
D.F.T.T.
Posted by sayasan   ( 757 ) on Mar-16-08 at 07:18:40 PDT   Listings
Sorry. Ignore bold.
Posted by sayasan   ( 757 ) on Mar-16-08 at 07:18:07 PDT   Listings
Milenko for pres, certainly.

Obscure issuing entities shade off into fantasy items, artistamps etc, which have become endless. But I thought I'd post these covers, if only for their unusual appearance. They were claimed to be from an experimental postal system established in insurgent territory by the Kayan New Land Party, one of the armed elements in the Karenni area in revolt against the Myanmar (Burma) government in the 1990's. There is a rather dense and exhaustive booklet documenting these - "Breves Notes sur les Vignettes Kayan" by one "Agnes Lasunion". But the covers, marks and labels were produced by a Swiss philatelist on holiday in Thailand, who had time on his hands, a penknife and a bunch of surplus erasers. He also authored the booklet, of course.

afeht - Sorry, not funny. Just a bit sad.

Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 06:52:15 PDT   Listings
L… I bet it’s nice and cool down at the rag and bone…



Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 06:47:19 PDT   Listings
Sniped by Jeff S...

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-16-08 at 06:44:55 PDT   Listings
jimjung27… From Frederick Langford’s Flag Cancel Encyclopedia, here is your cancel. As of 1989, only 25 specimens were known. On cover, this cancel is of great value. On a single stamp, unfortunately, this is much less true. Can’t say exactly what it is worth, but at least now you know what it is.

Jim
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Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3971 ) on Mar-16-08 at 06:36:24 PDT   Listings

The Canada 3c small queen is canceled by what collectors call the Straight Jack flag cancel, on cover or card a $100+ item, on stamp maybe a couple of dollars.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3971 ) on Mar-16-08 at 06:34:11 PDT   Listings

(not so) RARE postal card.

The China block has 2 lines across it, one the guide line, and one caused by a transparent pocket.

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-16-08 at 06:19:26 PDT   Listings
Jimjumg

can't get into your pic site.
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 06:15:13 PDT   Listings
Whoops - trying again

Has anyone seen this cancellation before? There's a scan at this link
Posted by jimjung27   ( 135 ) on Mar-16-08 at 06:10:11 PDT   Listings
Good mornin' - hope it's not too early to ask a stamp question.

I have Canada stamps with a cancellation that I haven't seen before. It's a 3c Small Queen and I saw this in a auction recently (forgot the site) and it said in the description that the cancel was only used for a week in May 1896. Which would make it pretty rare.

http://ca.geocities.com/fab4@rogers.com/scan0001.jpg>Has anyone seen this cancellation before? There's a scan at this link

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 86 ) on Mar-16-08 at 05:52:56 PDT   Listings
Hi Alec I will have a go at scanning and posting the article. The magazine is available worldwide if you don't mind having a digital version for $29 a year which is not bad value against the hardcopy of Ł3.25 in the UK. You can download a trial copy of Zinio reader and read an old copy here:-

http://www.stampmagazine.co.uk/content/zinio.htm

cheers


Peter


Posted by afeht   ( 1283 ) on Mar-16-08 at 04:18:52 PDT   Listings
Brusden & White specialized catalog of Australian stamps lists many color shades of the ubiquitous 1d red George V stamp. In fact, the amount of shades listed exactly equals the amount of letters in English alphabet, from A to Z. Which makes me think that editors of this catalog are slightly insane, and that they are capable of seeing and pricing as many subjectively perceived shades as they wish. Not a reassuring coincidence.
Posted by afeht   ( 1283 ) on Mar-16-08 at 04:14:22 PDT   Listings
"the"="tea"
Posted by afeht   ( 1283 ) on Mar-16-08 at 04:09:41 PDT   Listings
Among the stupefacient and somniferous iterations of The Chosen Dozen Mutual Congratulations Club (formerly known as EUSC), this brilliant howler created by inimitable Gooffalo Jim, dragged me out of the hay, and made my first cup of the exquisitely tasteful:

The line through those stamps is from the stock sheet that is holding them. See how the paper of the stamps is slightly darker below the line? That’s because you are looking at them through an extra layer of plastic.

Thank you for a big morning grin, old steel rat Jimbo! Don't you ever take off that old asbestos suit: it'll be hotter here for you than on the surface of the Sun.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1496 ) on Mar-16-08 at 03:21:39 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


oggilby! (Burt)
Let me add another “Happy Birthday!”

stamps12345 (Paul)
Here’s an early “Happy Birthday!” for you.

Jim L.

member
Posted by infla-alec   ( 592 ) on Mar-16-08 at 02:27:45 PDT   Listings
Got back late last night from my short trip to Germany and so have missed the past few days of board messages. Could have had internet access if I'd really wanted to but with so many friends to meet etc very little free time to go online.
I don't have any obscure items to show sorry to say but I have enjoyed reading back and seeing what others have shown over the past 200 messages.

Only managed to find one good cover from the dealers which is already in the hands of the expertizer. But did receive from another friend who also collects Infla three very nice additions to my collection. Hopefully will have them scanned and uploaded onto my home site later today.

Bjorn Sent you an e-mail via ebay asking for some help if possible please.

Peter Congratulations on your first philatelic publication. Though many here I don't think will be bale to read the article as it is only a UK publication. Any chance it can be scanned and shown here for the benefit of all ?
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-16-08 at 00:48:53 PDT   Listings
Mitch,

can't see any problems with the Djibouti 1f. on 5f. Obock, looks like a nice stamp,

Burt,

It is a Black Flag Republic (Formosa) forgery.

Peetah,

Guide lines on the 3rd. Peking printing were added to make it easy to separate sheets into half sheets for distribution to smaller offices.

David B.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 590 ) on Mar-15-08 at 23:47:02 PDT   Listings
Jim, last time I checked around 3pm it was 105*F/41*C and only 7 of the 20 F1 cars finished the Grand Prix first race of the season. - and this is Autumn/Fall weather in Melbourne!!! ?
L
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-15-08 at 23:19:40 PDT   Listings
Burt in MD…

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

Which was the last quarter I sent you? I get change so rarely now I haven’t seen a new quarter since the Utah one.

Howdy Miss L.
Is that 105° Celsius???



In my old steel mill days I worked as a mold operator watching 3000° steel pouring continuously, from a distance of two feet, wearing a fully aluminized asbestos suit. Fortunately I had a 5 horsepower 4-foot fan blowing right on me, otherwise it would not have been survivable. On days when the outside temperature was above 100° it was a very brutal job.

The very hottest part of the job was leaning over the full ladle (30 tons) just after it came up from the furnace, to insert a temperature probe. If the steel was 2980° or above, it was cast. Any “colder” and it went straight back to the furnace.

As a comparison, the visible surface of the Sun is about 6000°.

Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 590 ) on Mar-15-08 at 22:09:43 PDT   Listings
I'd rather have 19pr of nylons from 1950 than 19 lbs of 'heirloom' FDCs
Posted by rebcat005   ( 84 ) on Mar-15-08 at 21:37:17 PDT   Listings
stamps12345-I appreciate your input. I have been selling antiques for about 20 years, but I am not quite knowledgeable on stamps. I have relocated to this estate in NJ to help this elderly woman clean out her estate. When I came across them, I was under the impression they would be worth a good amount. I will try other ways to sell them for her. I mean I just sold 19 pair of nylon stockings from the 1950's and sold them on ebay for $685. So, you never know! Have a great night and thank you once again, Alisamarie
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-15-08 at 21:25:38 PDT   Listings
REBCAT--------Wait for other opinions ,but let me a sure you that Im familiar with those binders and the like mint copies of the FDC in those binders .They have no value to the stamp collector or the cover collector . The money was made by the firm that sold them to a novice buying public who thought they were getting heirlooms or something that would increase in value .Sorry about the bad news .
Posted by rebcat005   ( 84 ) on Mar-15-08 at 21:13:20 PDT   Listings
stamps12345- I am not sure if I described them right, but they are from the mint and not the ones that have been sent. I was offer good money for one, but thought to help the people, I would see if the entire lot is worth more. Some are in leather casings, in leather books, etc. Thanks again
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-15-08 at 21:07:10 PDT   Listings
REBCAT -----They are worth about 10 cent each wholesale and maybe 25 cents retail
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-15-08 at 21:06:55 PDT   Listings
Great to see you on the board againRichard B.

Hiya back Jeff

Burt Happy birthday (if that is the case)??
You are officially 10 times older than dirt, in my neck of the woods. Good call on the China stamp. I wouldn't know but our resident expert on everything sure should. OOOpppppsseydaisy, I hope you know which one I truly meant.

Jake Sorry for not responding to your email. I have a mental block regarding the person whom you were referring too. All the best to you and Msssss. Mouse
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-15-08 at 21:04:13 PDT   Listings
POSTAL.----It was lot 180221886479 went for $19.38

OGGILBY----Happy Birthday ,for me Tuesday and will be 59

MITCH ------Im in a good mood tonight alot of things are working for me so no reason to cry about anything you post .If you feel I can't read thats ok ,there is a lot of things that I can't do .But I did lift 220 in the gym must be that WHEY that was causing the gas last week {that you mentioned } has helped with the muscle and protein thing .

Posted by rebcat005   ( 84 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:55:53 PDT   Listings
Hello,

I am working on an estate and I came across a desk filled with first day stamp issue covers dated back to the 1950's I believe. How should these be sold? As the whole lot or one by one? Thank you!
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 590 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:52:15 PDT   Listings
Happy Birthday Burt !
Well for the Topic, Mitch, mine is not a postage stamp but a Poster Stamp, unusual in that it advertises (in German), that Stamp Collectors should save the coupons from the bottle for FREE POSTAGE STAMPS
From the Bobtol Ink Company in Munich, Germany.

Congratulations on going into print Peter.

Temps reached over 105* here today, and in 1 hour the first Formula One,Grand Prix race for the '08 season starts. They say its over 125* on the track, now add to that a fire proof suit, a racing suit, helmet, gear, and a tiny tiny raceseat!!! Yikes, glad I'm home in the comfort of my a/c room, in front of the TV

Linda
Posted by spain_1850   ( 374 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:46:09 PDT   Listings
postal - Yeah, kinda. I've noticed the same thing on my others and would attribute that to the paper being tinted green.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3971 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:42:54 PDT   Listings

happy birthday oggilby!

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3971 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:42:52 PDT   Listings

happy birthday oggilby!

Posted by oggilby   ( 1257 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:39:59 PDT   Listings
Good evening from soaking shoes Central MD! Coming down from obscurity, I cast my vote for lluehhhb and endorse the returnees!

Before returning back to obscurity this, which d2 and stamps12345.... from somewhere in China. (I think it's a monkey, monkeys are funny).

Rasing a Yuengling, high, to toast my 58th year in this universe!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3971 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:26:26 PDT   Listings

SPAIN_1850 it looks greenish blue on my monitor.

Hiya Mitch

Paul - what was that lot number on the China book you got outbid on, I am curious to see what it finally went for.

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:19:21 PDT   Listings
Paul Thanks for yet another laugh. Yes, I deleted the post as it was not complete. Seems I have two now for you to consider.
When you learn to read perhaps you can teach me.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:15:38 PDT   Listings
Paul I rather doubt, that is the case. Of course many third world countries have made stamps in the last fifty years to help there revenues by selling too collectors. This stamp I think was before any of them figured that out. I'm sure that your Obock reference was a typo, it is of course from Somali Coast. <:~`)))
Last one of these I saw go at auction went for $450 although it did not have the wide margins. It has been verified as original. As it is one (of many) of my favorite stamps I might be hard pressed to part with it but I'm thinking about it, would pay half my (low overhead) bills for the month. Still gotta think about my old age and I have faith that the stamp trade will steadily increase with interest and value.
I know I'm a serious investors joke, but hey I have my stuff in my hands and I also have the opportunity to enjoy them. Much like Silver, I don't buy paper (as proof of ownership), I keep the real deal.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:09:14 PDT   Listings
MITCH -----Guess you just deleted your posting to me ?????
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-15-08 at 20:02:55 PDT   Listings
MITCH ----You make me laugh ,its a Obock stamp that was counterfeited ,you need to read your catalog better.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-15-08 at 19:43:53 PDT   Listings
charlietuna ------For information on that U.S. stamp variety contact BARDO STAMPS in Chicago or WILLIAM LANGS {on e-bay he is WMLANGS } both these guys specialise in recent U.S. and it can be purchase thru E-BAY from them ....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-15-08 at 19:33:18 PDT   Listings
MITCH ----My guess is that OBOCK stamp was made for the stamp trade .
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-15-08 at 19:19:40 PDT   Listings
Online with the EUSC meeting topic here is a relatively obscure stamp. Probably not so much for the issueing authority but because of it is rather scarce and quite odd. Notice that it is an imperf with perfs printed on the paper with the design. Never could figure out what they were thinking when they made this stamp, if someone has a clue, please let me know.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-15-08 at 19:16:28 PDT   Listings
PEETAH------Thats no guide line .Its what I call creative artwork .Done by someone with a ruler and a black pen .
Posted by peetah   ( 527 ) on Mar-15-08 at 19:05:26 PDT   Listings
Thanks, Matt Guide Line block of 4 it is!
I guess you took a closer look, huh Jim? LOL Thanx :-)
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1496 ) on Mar-15-08 at 18:17:58 PDT   Listings
Jim L.
member
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-15-08 at 17:52:35 PDT   Listings
peetah… Never mind…



Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-15-08 at 17:51:46 PDT   Listings
peetah… The line through those stamps is from the stock sheet that is holding them. See how the paper of the stamps is slightly darker below the line? That’s because you are looking at them through an extra layer of plastic.

Jim
Posted by keleofa   ( 3804 ) on Mar-15-08 at 17:49:04 PDT   Listings
Peetah,

I would call it a 'Guide Line'

Matt in Arizona
Posted by charlietuna619   ( 0 )   on Mar-15-08 at 17:48:38 PDT   Listings
bill d. Tuvm for the info & will continue my search. Years ago bp of 20 was how I started collecting in the area.
As i hope to show this collection some day, and feel that this will be a key to display, I am sure you understand my desire to locate this item. Again tks for the info and also the leads. I will come back when I have the necessary feed backs.
good luck to you in your endeavors
Posted by peetah   ( 527 ) on Mar-15-08 at 17:23:13 PDT   Listings
Close the bold close the bold close the bold.
Posted by peetah   ( 527 ) on Mar-15-08 at 17:20:25 PDT   Listings
What would be the proper description of the line going through this china block of 4?
Rotary line block of 4 perhaps? Would the line increase the value of this block? If so, then by what % ?
Posted by jimbo   ( 431 ) on Mar-15-08 at 17:11:08 PDT   Listings
First, cast my ballot for Milenko.

Next, Here is a cover from Fezzan Ghadames in remote western Libya (which I found on eBay).

jimbo
Posted by beowulfjohannsson   ( 69 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:58:13 PDT   Listings
must have gotten a good price for that one i think
Posted by beowulfjohannsson   ( 69 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:52:50 PDT   Listings
wery nice colletion you got there antonius
Posted by beowulfjohannsson   ( 69 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:50:07 PDT   Listings
well thank you sir
Posted by beowulfjohannsson   ( 69 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:50:03 PDT   Listings
well thank you sir
Posted by beowulfjohannsson   ( 69 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:48:57 PDT   Listings
ok nobody wants to chat now that im here figures :(
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:48:22 PDT   Listings
Beowulfjohannsson Greetings and welcome to the ebay stamp chat.
I take from your mepage that you live in Iceland?
A very interesting location to live. I am a collector of
Iceland. However the collection shown on my site was sold a few years ago. I have since started a new one. When I get to the brick wall in collecting a country I usually start over using my dupes for a start.

I would like to invite you to join the Ebay Users Stamp Club.

Mitchell aka antonius-ra
President
Posted by beowulfjohannsson   ( 69 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:27:48 PDT   Listings
like 200% over market value
Posted by beowulfjohannsson   ( 69 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:26:56 PDT   Listings
i like that dreamer of the day :)
Posted by beowulfjohannsson   ( 69 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:24:37 PDT   Listings
im collecting icelandic mnh and penknives
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:20:28 PDT   Listings
Not much Beowulf

what do you collect?
Posted by beowulfjohannsson   ( 69 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:10:42 PDT   Listings
hello whats up????
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-15-08 at 16:09:07 PDT   Listings
Obscure things: What thing was this person honored for? It's spelled "Phthisiologist."
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-15-08 at 15:00:06 PDT   Listings
Terry

even better, and only $5 S&H.
Posted by thines   ( 1572 ) on Mar-15-08 at 14:29:09 PDT   Listings
Dreamer of the day: 250226044861.

Terry Hines

Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-15-08 at 13:14:04 PDT   Listings
Woohoo, seems I became a great uncle yesterday.

My nephew's wife had a baby daughter.
Posted by spain_1850   ( 374 ) on Mar-15-08 at 12:34:54 PDT   Listings
Roger - Nice to be back! I'm glad to see this board still chugging along with all the familiar names, and new ones (to me) as well.

David - The cancel on the Carlist isn't one I immediately recognize as a known example on these issues, but that doesn't mean anything until I get it in my hands and can examine it firsthand.
Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-15-08 at 12:31:08 PDT   Listings
And considering the competition I guess i gat a good buy.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=300205498486&aid=c***o&eu=7%2BN4R5CFDvgTNx8s9%2B4BguYZdcr3mTFT&view=BUYER&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_Buyer_ViewLink
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 248 ) on Mar-15-08 at 12:28:24 PDT   Listings
last try http://usera.imagecave.com/mtndew/helgoland.jpg
Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-15-08 at 12:26:55 PDT   Listings
It's nice to know other collectors evaluate a lot close to your winning bid. I will have to see this in person to read all the text, if I can understnd it. I haven't seen many returned items from this period, especially international.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=300205498486

Roger
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 248 ) on Mar-15-08 at 12:25:46 PDT   Listings
Ras-a-frasing, oooohhh dang rabbit! Try this instead!
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-15-08 at 12:23:57 PDT   Listings
Spain.

I can't count the lines in the lower right corner as the scan is not clear but it appears to be OK,

David B.
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 1003 ) on Mar-15-08 at 12:22:38 PDT   Listings
2008 vote

I also vote for Milenko as the new EUSC President.

Jimbo2

Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 248 ) on Mar-15-08 at 12:21:42 PDT   Listings
I vote for lluehhhb for Prez.
Thank you to all the returning incumbents.

Obscure being relative, http://usera.imagecave.com/mtndew/helgoland.jpg>this is my perception.
Very interesting items being shown, great topic ant-ra
Posted by spain_1850   ( 374 ) on Mar-15-08 at 12:15:17 PDT   Listings
David, it might be the differences in the monitors. Mine is new to me and may need calibrating. On mine, it definitely has a blue tinge to it compared to all of the other black cancels. In either case, whether it's actually blue or black, it's a great cancel and I'm happy. I'm also hoping the Carlist stamp turns out to be genuine, but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-15-08 at 11:43:48 PDT   Listings
Paolo,

nice Meran local, that one would fool anyone (except the experts)

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8955 ) on Mar-15-08 at 11:41:53 PDT   Listings
Spain,

nice item,

for some reason the cancel appears Black on my monitor, I can't see any sign of blueness.

David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-15-08 at 11:30:01 PDT   Listings
On the subject of obscure stamps, these fit the bill. Used by a steampship company in Venezuela for transport between there and St Thomas V.I (Danish Antilles)
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-15-08 at 11:23:30 PDT   Listings
My vote also goes to Milenko.

Peter

Congratulations on your philatelic literary debut.
Posted by philatarium   ( 252 ) on Mar-15-08 at 11:04:16 PDT   Listings
Bill D.: Thanks very much for the clarification. 1596d is not listed in the 2007 regular Scott volume, but is listed in the US Specialized. (For some reason, I had thought that the US Specialized mostly had more detailed listings for earlier stamps, and for errors. I didn't realize there were more detailed listings for recent stamps as well.) Thanks for the info! I'm always happy to learn.

charlietuna: Just fyi, the 2007 catalogue value for the 1596d is $27.50, and pb strip of 12 cats for $375. They do not have a listing for a pb strip of 20, although they do list pb strips of both 12 & 20 for the regular 1596.

I agree with Bill's recommendation to post a message on the Virtual Stamp Club discussion board. A slightly more direct link to the board is here:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/stamps/messages

There is a "Buy/Sell/Trade" section where it would be entirely appropriate to post what you're looking for.

Also, one dealer who specializes in modern US varieties and has a website is here:
http://www.avbstamps.com/index.html
There used to be a regular poster here who thought highly of this dealer.

I didn't see your particular item listed, but I may have missed it, and you could always email him directly to inquire.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 86 ) on Mar-15-08 at 10:51:25 PDT   Listings
1st My vote for President goes to Milenko ( and thanks for your efforts in archiving the board)

2nd A vote of thanks for the outgoing President, Mitch who did a great job! Also to Bill for his tireless efforts on the admin side and to Matthew for the APS battles.

3rd For my part finally made a big hit today with my article on BCA 1898 1d Provisionals being published in the April edition of Stamp Magazine (nice 4 page spread), so rush out and buy your copy:-) First time I have ever had anything philatelic published so feeling well chuffed. Of course it goes without saying there are several plugs for eUSC in the article.

cheers


Peter


Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-15-08 at 10:33:20 PDT   Listings
Hi Spain and Paolo -

Interesting start to the Show and Tell. There should be a whole lot of obscure philatelic items collected by board participants based on past showings. Come on folks make an effort this weekend to show things you have. This topic doesn't require a whole collection, just one stamp!

Roger
Posted by spain_1850   ( 374 ) on Mar-15-08 at 09:02:45 PDT   Listings
Hi Paolo! Yes, I'm excited.

How have you been?
Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-15-08 at 08:43:56 PDT   Listings
Hi Spain_1850,

And congratulations on your find!

Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-15-08 at 08:33:24 PDT   Listings
Amongst the obscurest (can one say this?) I can show, is this Local stamp:
Recto:
http://i29.tinypic.com/29f9hcn.jpg
Verso:
http://i29.tinypic.com/2qmitli.jpg

Unfortunately, however, it was judged to be a FORGERY (thus, rewording the previous: it is "an obscure stamp forgery" )
The signature is an imitation (clumsy, according to one Expert) of that of Dr. Guglielmo Oliva.
Either this forged stamp and the original were printed in typography (letterpress), as you can see from the picture: exempli gratia, the foulage (indentation) on reverse and the ink spread to the borders of the printed elements by the pressure of the cliché.
Paolo
Posted by spain_1850   ( 374 ) on Mar-15-08 at 08:26:23 PDT   Listings
Sorry to drop invade the meeting without something on topic to share, but I had to post this because I was so excited I won it.

This picture shows the small lot of Spanish stamps I won, while I was asleep. The 5th stamp in the second row is a common 4c orange of 1860, with a primitive (pre-stamp) cancel in blue (Poza-Burgos). My only reference book mentions it in black but not blue. This is only the 3rd example I have of that stamp with a pre-stamp marking and is the basic reason I was bidding on this lot. I was sitting on it all week, without a bid, hoping nobody else would find it. Someone else did, but I managed to hang on by $3.

Oh yeah, there are some other nicer stamps in this lot as well, but they are just a bonus for me.
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1691 ) on Mar-15-08 at 08:03:25 PDT   Listings
-----obscure journey-----
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1691 ) on Mar-15-08 at 08:01:32 PDT   Listings
NOIP, not all that obscure, but for a hillbilly from SW Missouri, Monze, Zambia to Cando, ND is a pretty obsure journey.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-15-08 at 06:55:32 PDT   Listings
Obscure stamp… Not really all that obscure, but an oddity. This cover features one of the Jersey Island stamps issued during the Nazi occupation in World War II. Just so happens the cancel date is 5 Oct 1943…



Jim
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1725 ) on Mar-15-08 at 06:11:20 PDT   Listings
antonius-ra, yes, this time it was a pleasure trip.
As much to satisfy my wife's quest for the seventh continent as to see the wildlife and scenery.
My 1968 trip was business (work) in conjunction with NSF and the Weather Bureau.
Posted by wrd3   ( 104 ) on Mar-15-08 at 06:06:04 PDT   Listings
philatarium according to my 1997 US Specialized catalog, 1596d is the 13 cent eagle and shield issue line perforated. Per the description, "On No. 1596 the entire sheet is perforated at one time so the perforations meet perfectly at the corners of the stamp. On No. 1596d the perforations do not line up perfectly and are perf 11." Note the catalog shows 1596 as perf 11.2.

charlietuna619 I don't know where to suggest looking, but you might try on Virtual Stamp Club, as I think they have a section for buying and selling. Perhaps someone there would have a suggestion. Good luck.

Bill D.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1496 ) on Mar-15-08 at 05:53:49 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


jaywild
Thanks! I’ll try that.

charlietuna619
Welcome! If you’ve not checked out the “Yellow Boxes” I’d suggest doing so. There are many links that should give you some great ideas. But remember, there’s no right or wrong way to collect stamps, do it so that it pleases you.

bjorn
Congrats on your new red feedback star

Mitchell,
I also vote for lluehhhb (Milenko)as President!

Jim L.

member
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-15-08 at 04:44:12 PDT   Listings
Thanks everyone for the endorsements

I'll be out of town for today.
Posted by 22028   ( 1691 ) on Mar-15-08 at 04:02:32 PDT   Listings
On the topic of obscure places and stamps I recommend my Colombian Semi Official stamps page at:
http://fuchs-online.com/colombia/introduction.htm

Unfortunately not up to date, there is always so much to do but so little time...
Posted by 22028   ( 1691 ) on Mar-15-08 at 03:58:53 PDT   Listings
I, too, cast my vote for Milenko (lluehhhb)!
Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-15-08 at 02:49:30 PDT   Listings
P.S. how about nocturnal stamps, as being obscure when examined at night without glasses?

Some "obscure" postage stamps:

http://i12.tinypic.com/4c0exli.jpg

http://i9.tinypic.com/6lxexdi.jpg

http://home.wanadoo.nl/bagaglia/Notturni_1_.jpg

http://home.wanadoo.nl/bagaglia/Notturni_2_.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/8b4740z.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/8b4740z.jpg

and, as last:

http://i11.tinypic.com/6pplqom.jpg

;-)
Kind regards & good continuation to All,
Paolo Bagaglia

(Sicilia_1859_50Grana_verso_testa_d_avorio)

Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-15-08 at 02:36:44 PDT   Listings
Good day to All from grey Shoes!

Mitchell,
I, too, cast my vote for Milenko (lluehhhb)!

Nice Castelrosso pages!

My compliments also to DC and Roger for the pictures & thanks for sharing!

Sorry if I missed out anybody, today I can't find my spectacles!

All the best,
Paolo (blinder than usual!)

Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-15-08 at 02:33:10 PDT   Listings
I also vote for Milenko as Presidente.

bjorn -
Congratulations on obtaining your red star = 1000 feedbacks. You must have quite a collection by now. )'>)

Mitchell -
My obscure: scroll down to the bottom of my ME page
http://www.ilhawaii.net/~rheath/myebay/hotel3.jpg
Engardinerhof Hotel Stamp - New Discovery 2nd Known. I sold it at auction in Switzerland for Sf4500 a couple of years ago after buying on eBay for significantly less.

I like obscure stamps. )'>) I guess I tend towards the obscure in everything I collect.

Roger

Posted by bjornmu   ( 1002 ) on Mar-15-08 at 01:07:03 PDT   Listings
I vote for Milenko lluehhhb as President!

His first presidential action should be to tell us how to pronounce his eBay name. Or can this only be done in Spanish? :-)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-15-08 at 00:26:36 PDT   Listings
Here are a couple obscure ones to start the meeting off with:
Castellorizo 1
Castellorizo 2




Posted by philatarium   ( 252 ) on Mar-15-08 at 00:18:59 PDT   Listings
charlietuna: And there are also a few listings here on eBay, too. (I bet I've made a mistake in understanding what you're after.)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-15-08 at 00:07:04 PDT   Listings

E U S C

Ebay Users Stamp Club

Meeting

For March 2008 is now in session


This meeting purpose is twofold; to elect a new board of directors and to discuss obscure stamps.

There have been several nominees, for President, but for their own personal reasons have declined the position at this time.

As it stands we have two nominees for President,lluehhhb and Manhattanconcepts
Unfortunately, Manhattanconcepts is not a member of the Eusc, so she will be excluded as a contender.
This leaves us with lluehhhb (Milenko), whom I have had very pleasant personal dealings with. I am happy to endorse him with the greatest of confidence that he will pursue what is in the greatest benefit of the EUSC.
I hope (all you members) willl endorse and show your support to him!

Likewise, there are, no nominees for the other positions.
However, the following board members have agreed to stay on, in their present positions:
Bill Seymour (eBay ID: billsey) Executive Assistant.
Peter Gorton (eBay ID: greenwave4u) Media Relations Officer
Matthew Liebson (ebay ID: paperhistory) APS representative

I don't think we have much of a base in North Korea or Cuba but members are most encouraged to vote and show their appreciation for the hitherto mentioned candidates!!!

The other topic for this weekends meeting is obscure places and stamps.
This would be issueing entities that most people have never heard of and stamps from any country that are seldom seen or not listed in some catalogs.

Happy Stampin,

Mitchell aka Antonius Ra
President EUSC


Posted by philatarium   ( 252 ) on Mar-14-08 at 23:35:50 PDT   Listings
charlietuna: I checked in the Scotts, and saw a listing for a 1596, but not a 1596d. 1596 is the 13-cent eagle and shield. If you're looking for a plate number strip of those, and assuming you couldn't find it on eBay, I think you can find it here.

Hope that's helpful, and I hope I understood what you were looking for.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-14-08 at 23:24:46 PDT   Listings
jkraatz76 Your basic 10,000 world wide stamps are worth around a penny a piece. You may have some better stuff in the collection but it usually goes, to not be the case. If you'd like to get a better idea of what you might have, post a link to a scan of the most complete countries first couple pages. If you do not know how to link a scan then send me the scan or photo and I will post it for you.

Mitchell aka Antonius Ra
President EUSC

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-14-08 at 23:07:37 PDT   Listings
Bill S. I think it might be time to put your cell phone on the charger, got cut-off and no ones at home (on call back) <:~`)
Long conversations do that, I'm putting a bid on that last item we discussed. Thanks for the always pleasant conversation!
Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-14-08 at 22:47:28 PDT   Listings
jaywild -

I've been too busy doing other things such as rewriting exhibits. )'>) Yesterday and today I mounted 14 pages towards a single framer. Topic is "Refusé Cards and Covers". Such as these:
1866;
1898;
1901;
1908;
1925;
These are first drafts of the pages and include errors, etc, so thanks in advance, but there is no need for proofing! I have some research to do now I have suitable items. Who knows, I may need to find special items to fill in some periods I know nothing about. LOL Later!

Photos -
Last year I went and retrieved all my framed photos that were in galleries as they aging more than selling. I did have some success in one gallery, but the irony is that I went in once and couldn't find my stuff anywhere. I was shown to a stairwell and hallway leading upstairs to a jewelry artisan's workshop. There were my photos on the walls and looking good, except I couldn't imagine anyone passing them by, except those people who wanted to buy jewelry!

Here is a reprise of a few images, both Hawaiian botanicals and GB scenics.

Anyway they aren't Antarctic! Those were neat photos.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by keleofa   ( 3804 ) on Mar-14-08 at 22:35:32 PDT   Listings
jkraatz,

Some collectors store their stamps in albums, others in stockbooks or on stockpages.
Posted by jkraatz76   ( 0 )   on Mar-14-08 at 22:31:44 PDT   Listings
I have over 10,000 stamps from all over the world. And they are used and unused, but i dont know what to do with them, they have to be worth something. they are dated from 1890's and up. please some advice would be great.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-14-08 at 22:13:56 PDT   Listings
due2cents… The best part of that mastodon auction is that if you put the $115,000 on an eBay credit card you would get up to $25 back!!

Jim
Posted by charlietuna619   ( 0 )   on Mar-14-08 at 21:42:32 PDT   Listings
antonius-ra Tks for your response. I have been collecting for 35 yrs give or take lol. Years ago I took an interest in this area, and yes I have a fairly nice bit put together. However I am missing a single and a pb of this item. Have just recently re-lite the stamp urge lol. Haven't been able to locate much now days in this area. Any help or direction to someone a bit more up to date would be very welcomed. Again TYVM for any help
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-14-08 at 21:01:30 PDT   Listings
charlietuna619 Welcome to the stamp board.
I'm not quite sure if I understand your question.
A plate block of 20 of Scott #1596d might not even be attainable? I must wonder why you are seeking such an item as this? You must have a very interesting collection to even be seeking this. Please feel free to share you collecting interests and collection.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-14-08 at 20:54:00 PDT   Listings
D.C. Thanks much for sharing. A most excellent adventure, you have seemed to have had. It should be a most cherished memory for the rest of your life. I'm sure I speak for the rest of us, wishing we could have been there with you!
I assume it was a pleasure trip and not business?
Posted by charlietuna619   ( 0 )   on Mar-14-08 at 20:29:18 PDT   Listings
could anyone direct me towards a pb 0f 20 scotts 1596d? have been searching for periods of time (long ones lol)... tyvm
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-14-08 at 20:01:56 PDT   Listings
dcderoo… Wow, your photos are amazing. That landscape is so powerful, and you have done a first class job of capturing it. I agree, the cloud on the mountaintop is best, but all are very good.

Speaking of which, I wish Roger would show more of his photos. We used to get a decent showing every so often, but somehow we got cut out of the loop.



Jim L... It sounds like whatever happens you won’t get the lot you wanted, since it’s already been sold to someone else. If I understand rightly sellers can no longer leave negative feedback—isn’t that correct? Anyway, forward the threatening email to fraud “at” ebay.com and see what happens.

Jim
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1496 ) on Mar-14-08 at 19:25:53 PDT   Listings
Right now I’m aggravated by a seller who would not respond to emails attempting to arrange payment, filed a dispute and then ignored my postings to the dispute. Next they sold the lot to someone else. I ended up having to file a claim to get my PayPal refunded and left the seller a negative feedback. So, I get an email with a blackmail attempt to get me to remove the negative I left.
Anyone have any ideas of someone I can contact at eBay about this seller’s feedback after attempting blackmail?
Jim L.

member
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-14-08 at 18:47:53 PDT   Listings
due2cents
Sorry about that, figured all the "Ole Timers" here were Grandparents. LOL
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-14-08 at 18:28:55 PDT   Listings
Sneeky Not Grand
1st edition
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-14-08 at 18:10:16 PDT   Listings
due2cents
Your granddaughter is a real Cute girl.
Thanks for the Birthday wishes
Posted by wrd3   ( 104 ) on Mar-14-08 at 16:41:39 PDT   Listings
NOIP I'm looking forward to receiving this lot that I won today, to find out if the 3rd stamp in the 1st/2nd row is E136 or E136.5. I'm guessing it's E136.5, but I'm not sure.

antonius-ra the package arrived in the mail today. Thank you. I hope you were able to find some from your want list out of my dupes.

Bill D.
Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-14-08 at 16:03:08 PDT   Listings
dcderoo -

My razor cancel friend who visited Hawaii in February had just returned from a trip to the Antarctic with his wife. They showed similar photos and loved the place. As your wonderful photos show, the weather is a major factor and the color of the terrain lends itself to dynamic photos. The cloud shot is great. Was the wind blowing? LOL

Roger

Posted by afeht   ( 1280 ) on Mar-14-08 at 16:02:22 PDT   Listings
dcderoo,

Your "best picture" is a really good photo.
It's COLD out there.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-14-08 at 16:02:08 PDT   Listings
Hey .Bjornmu.

This cover I shared in November

Cover-Norge
on the back was this mark
Transit-
and
These-were-with-it
and And-these
Posted by dogbert_consulting   ( 5 ) on Mar-14-08 at 15:53:47 PDT   Listings
?
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1001 ) on Mar-14-08 at 15:37:37 PDT   Listings
Norway what?
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-14-08 at 15:23:15 PDT   Listings
Thanks D Benson

More of that mail that had that Unique Norway
Franked canceled in Russia Cover.
Dr Paul and his friends Got around .
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-14-08 at 15:06:07 PDT   Listings
Due, try for starters, the 5f. Brown block of 4 and be sure to mention that it is addressed to the " Yellow Fever Research Institute, Entebbe, Uganda ". It might get some interest from topical collectors,

David B.

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-14-08 at 15:02:19 PDT   Listings
Hey Sneeky
Belated Birthday Greetings

Told the little one how old you were
got this reaction

Hair-on-end

I enjoyed the Banana Daquiris
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:59:09 PDT   Listings
anyone need a Mastodon Skeleton

320225820835
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:54:36 PDT   Listings
got a couple of new Model Post Office PPIE


Best part this one Perf 10 stamp

Here
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:53:55 PDT   Listings
A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL!!
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:49:57 PDT   Listings
Thanks D Benson

Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:44:36 PDT   Listings
DC

Neat pictures.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1001 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:39:11 PDT   Listings
Michel 2002/3: 4 Euros for the imperf, 2.40 for the perfed one.
Posted by red-dog9   ( 3700 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:37:39 PDT   Listings
Thanks, Bjorn. Any value?
Rick
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1001 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:32:33 PDT   Listings
Red-dog, local issue from Pärnu, German occupied Estonia.
Posted by red-dog9   ( 3700 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:18:16 PDT   Listings
Greetings: Can somebody identify these Russian overprinted stamps? Thanks in advance!
Rick
http://www.picture-monster.de/image/view/xZrztdShbL/AAAStamps.jpg
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1725 ) on Mar-14-08 at 14:07:00 PDT   Listings
Antarctica
(Or at least the parts that caught my eye)

I’m a “detail” type photographer, not an “artistic” one, so don’t expect the spectacular.
(Click on the underlined blue text for pictures.)

We sailed out of Ushuaia, Argentina, in the Tierra del Fuego Archipelago, supposedly the southern-most city in the world. It was early March and the temperature was about 50°F (10°C), and a light rain tended to dog us.

The trip took us two days across the Drake Passage (map), reputed to be one of the roughest ocean areas in the world on a continuing basis (unlimited fetch.) We were lucky and only had to contend with 1-2m seas, but in a small ship it was felt.
We didn’t get as far south as the Antarctic Circle; the farthest south we got was Peterman Island at about 65½ degrees South.

The ship was the Andrea with room for only 90 passengers. The image shows a standard “wet” landing on one of the Antarctic islands, the ship a couple hundred meters offshore and Zodiacs transporting us back and forth. The terrain is also typical of most landings, gravel/cobble beaches, low hills and small glaciers. The only wharf we ever dealt with was in Ushuaia.

Since it was at the end of their summer, many creatures had already moved on to their wintering areas. Most of the penguins still around were Chin Strap and Gentoo.
Chin Strap Penguin, likely a yearling since it is clean.
Chin Strap Penguin, likely an adult since it is a bit soiled.
Young Gentoo Penguin.
Gentoo Penguins, youngster and molting adult.
This is the “kiddie pool” where the first year penguins learn to swim.
Not shown are a couple Adelie and a couple Macaroni Penguins that were seen. Most of those types had already left for the winter.
The Chin Straps and Gentoos would be gone in about a week or two when molting was completed.

We also met up with some Fur Seals and Weddell Seals (sun bathing.)
Not shown are Leopard Seals which often feed on penguins. I saw several and they looked VERY large and one appeared to be sizing us up while were in a Zodiac.
I missed seeing some Elephant Seals.

A real highlight was a Humpback Whale that frolicked around the ship’s bow for a half hour or so.

We actually only set foot on the Antarctic continent once (all the other stops were islands), but that once was enough for my wife to complete the set of all seven continents.

Scenery:
Probably my best picture.
Lots of low clouds which often produced rain/drizzle/snow.
Often the terrain was quite mixed.
A narrow channel (1 mile wide by 7 miles long) that we sailed through.

And for volcano lovers, one side (columnar basalt) of the opening to a flooded caldera in Deception Island.
The island last erupted in 1970 wiping out a couple scientific bases. There was an area where swimming was possible where heated water seeped out and mixed with the cold water in the caldera. The heated water alone was too hot to bathe in.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-14-08 at 13:58:44 PDT   Listings
Peter

You are correct.

Fortunately, being ill, I've had a few days to devote to them.
They are driving me insane. What with China, People's Republic of China, NE China, E China, and S China. I haven't come across any NW China, Central China or SW China. A few items of interest, apart from cancels. I noticed one complete stamp booklet on piece.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 85 ) on Mar-14-08 at 13:48:06 PDT   Listings
I/O Jim I can guess where the large pile of Chinese stamps came from:-) Hope they were of interest!
cheers
Peter
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-14-08 at 13:45:42 PDT   Listings
due,

there is demand in France for usages of particular stamps especially higher face values and for that time frame destinations are not that important except for colonial items. The last item appears to be Madagascar and that should definitely be listed separately.

Try a few of the covers with higher face values, not multiples of lower values,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-14-08 at 13:43:24 PDT   Listings
D2

Buzzards don't make any noise (usually).

After the way I've been feeling all week, I was having serious apprehensions as to whether they would follow me home.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-14-08 at 13:40:13 PDT   Listings
IO,

were the buzzards humming FI-FIE-FO-FUM,

David B.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-14-08 at 13:36:43 PDT   Listings
NOIP

French 1930's Covers to uganda

here-a-few

would 10 or 20 make a lot that would recoup my listing fees.

Thanks ifin you know
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-14-08 at 12:10:04 PDT   Listings
Bill D

Butterflies are out here in abundance.
However, after today they may well all be in Austin by dinner time. Winds are 30 to 50mph, gusting to 80.

Last night was neat when I got off work at 7:30, there must have been about 40 to sixty buzzards in a single circle hovering about 600 feet up.
Posted by jimjung27   ( 134 ) on Mar-14-08 at 12:01:17 PDT   Listings
wrd3,

Wow - even better. My stamps are on that webpage.

Many thanks.
Posted by jimjung27   ( 134 ) on Mar-14-08 at 11:56:14 PDT   Listings
iomoon,

Thanks! I guess if I had a Z stamp, it'd be worth something.
Posted by wrd3   ( 104 ) on Mar-14-08 at 11:51:34 PDT   Listings
jimjung iomoon answered your question. Here is a page with the face value of these stamps, along with other nondenominated stamps (stamps which don't have their value printed on them) issued by the US. All are still valid to use as postage.

iomoon Spring Break is almost over here .... last day of spring break.

Bill D.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-14-08 at 11:48:49 PDT   Listings
jimjung

They were make-up stamps without values but have a specific value, unlike forever stamps.

A,B,C,D,E etc are just in order that they were issued.
Each higher letter has a higher value.
And, yes, they were specifically for internal mail.
Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-14-08 at 11:45:56 PDT   Listings
Here's an interesting article about deep mine bacteria. And Life goes on.
http://discovermagazine.com/1999/jul/cover

Thanks Jim. Quite possible since cover shows weight at 230gms, forwarded to Switzerland and refused by recipient. He probably knew it would go back to GB and tried again.

Roger
Posted by jimjung27   ( 134 ) on Mar-14-08 at 11:37:12 PDT   Listings
I think I have an easy question about US stamps with denominations of A, B and C. What do these letters mean and are they still usable for postage? I heard B was for Domestic mail.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-14-08 at 11:16:55 PDT   Listings
Phil

They found they were still drilling rock.

That it was too hot for the bit to handle.

(And that they had probably run out of money).
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-14-08 at 11:10:35 PDT   Listings
io: What did the Russians find when they stopped drilling?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-14-08 at 11:09:49 PDT   Listings
Roger

Could be Vickers & Co, advertizing agents.
I don't have a perfin catalog and am guessing.

Yippee, it's Spring Break!!!
Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-14-08 at 11:05:00 PDT   Listings
Now everyone is awake, I'll repeat my question from last night. )'>)

Question concerning GB perfin on QV 1/2d stamp, 1901.
"V&C°"
Hole missing top of left line on "V"
Hole missing top of "C", " ° " made with 4 holes.

Who used this perfin pattern? This will help me identify the sender of a cover front that was refused by the receiver.

Thanks in advance.
Roger
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-14-08 at 10:57:53 PDT   Listings
Sayasan

I've identified most of my competition (based on feedback numbers) and the x***y name has been constant so far
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-14-08 at 10:52:22 PDT   Listings
Considering the Russians have drilled the world's deepest hole on the Kola Peninsula to a depth of 7.62 miles and it only took them 19 years, another 9,850 years should see them at the center of the Earth!!

:-)
Posted by sayasan   ( 756 ) on Mar-14-08 at 10:51:45 PDT   Listings
Idiot question to NOIP - these annoying b***y anonymous bidder id's - are they consistent from auction to auction? Or freshly generated for each separate auction?
Posted by afeht   ( 1280 ) on Mar-14-08 at 09:20:32 PDT   Listings
NAZIS PLANNED TO DROP AN A-BOMB TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH FROM SEWERS IN PRAGUE!!!

Tabloid physicists
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15484 ) on Mar-14-08 at 08:50:57 PDT   Listings
mmmmmmmmmmmmm beeeeeeeeeer

mmmmmmmmmmmmm coverssss

Homer (wondering why all these lights are flashing CRITICAL at my station)

mmmmmmmmmm beeeeeeeeeeeer......

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3956 ) on Mar-14-08 at 08:35:43 PDT   Listings

Go to covers.
That's what I have been saying for as long as anyone will let me get away with it.

Go to covers.

Now I've said it again.

Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-14-08 at 08:07:50 PDT   Listings
NOIP… At least the US dollar is holding its own against the Zimbabwean dollar…



Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-14-08 at 07:51:17 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Bad news from the money pits today…

Jim
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3956 ) on Mar-14-08 at 07:46:12 PDT   Listings

grin

Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-14-08 at 07:36:16 PDT   Listings
Jeff… You’ve convinced me. Duff Beer it is.



Homer also made this interesting toast—“To alcohol: The cause of—and solution to—all man’s problems.”

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-14-08 at 07:25:47 PDT   Listings
Dana… Oh no, I didn’t mean to sound disparaging. Great advances in science always come because someone looks at a subject in a different way. I don’t agree with Herndon, but I wouldn’t call him a crackpot. (The Nazis and their goofy ideas—now those guys were crackpots.)

I forgot to add in my message last night that since the Viking landers arrived at Mars it has been discovered through ultrasound experiments that none of Mars’ core is liquid, which neatly bolstered the liquid-solid iron/electric dynamo-magnetic field hypothesis.

briguy... Thanks for digging up that link. I was too lazy to look it up last night. Oklo Gabon—that’s the place.

Io... Thanks for that breakdown. I didn’t know about that classification system. I do know that when earth collided with a Mars-sized body (the event that formed the moon) the core reassembled as molten and all the elements from the mantle on down sorted themselves out by weight and mixed fairly thoroughly. When the core compressed to its final state the hottest part (mostly iron) was in the middle, but the pressure was so intense that it exists as a solid. The outer core is cooler, but since the pressure is less it can exist as a liquid. Thus the dynamo.

Jim
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3956 ) on Mar-14-08 at 06:57:54 PDT   Listings

Paul - I see there is one of those with still 2 hours to go. They sold another copy a week ago in the $14 range. I really don't think this seller is going to dick you for a couple of dollars.They likely have others that will be offered next week. Timing is everything. Paranoia gets you nowhere.

physicists on board - I was speaking with a friend who has considerable nuclear experience, Homer Simpson, and he assures me the core of the earth is an endless lake of Duff Beer.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-14-08 at 05:31:40 PDT   Listings
Terry

First off, many thanks for the PVI's.

As regards uranium, Goldschmidt placed the elements into four groups: Chalcophile (sulfur-loving), siderophile (iron-loving), lithophile (silicate-loving) and atmophile (gas-loving).

As you might expect, elements that are likely to separate into the core are siderophile. In contrast, uranium is lithophile. Its preference is to concentrate into the mantle and crust. However, being such a large element, it has a hard time entering any common crystal structure.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1494 ) on Mar-14-08 at 05:20:07 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


bjornmu
Contrats on getting the new star.
Jim L.

member
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-14-08 at 05:14:05 PDT   Listings
NOIP------Got outbid on that booklet about the Prov. Surcharges of China on e-bay today . Since I don't know if its a collector or a friend of the seller .E-bay can count on me to not play the bidding game for undisclosed bidders under their new system .Undisclose bidding is going to stop a lot of bidding in my view of it .
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-14-08 at 03:58:22 PDT   Listings
lluehhub

Nice covers thanks for sharing.
Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-14-08 at 01:37:13 PDT   Listings
Aloha all you physicists -

Question concerning GB perfin on QV 1/2d stamp, 1901.
"V&C°"
Hole missing top of left line on "V"
Hole missing top of "C", " ° " made with 4 holes.

Who used this perfin pattern? This will help me identify the sender of a cover front that was refused by the receiver.

Thanks in advance.
Roger
Posted by dkru   ( 357 ) on Mar-14-08 at 01:16:03 PDT   Listings
jaywild...I did not suggest that Herndon's ideas were mainstream. Quite to the contrary, though not quite into the realm of lunatic or delusional. His notion that the segregation of uranium from the rest of the liquid mantle/core material is due to the formation of an immiscible uranium sulfide material, whose high density took it to the center of the earth. Following up on thines' post, this is a relatively recent hypothesis, so far as I know, and was probably unknown/unthought by the bombless Nazis during WWII.

On a separate matter, you were correct some months ago. Oil has reached $100/barrel before without returning to $40 as I predicted at the time, though it was touch and go for a while. I am still not persuaded that we have seen $40 for the last time, adjusted for any disintegration in the value of the dollar (i.e. 2007 dollars). This market looks alot like the 70's, including alot of handwringing over whether we have run out of oil for real this time. We shall see if history repeats itself, or if this time things really are different.

Dana

Posted by dkru   ( 357 ) on Mar-14-08 at 01:10:27 PDT   Listings
jaywild...I did not suggest that Herndon's ideas were mainstream. Quite to the contrary, though not quite into the realm of lunatic or delusional. His notion that the segregation of uranium from the rest of the liquid mantle/core material is due to the formation of an immiscible uranium sulfide material, whose high density took it to the center of the earth. Following up on thines' post, this is a relatively recent hypothesis, so far as I know, and was probably unknown/unthought by the bombless Nazis during WWII.

On a separate matter, you were correct some months ago. Oil has reached $100/barrel before without returning to $40 as I predicted at the time, though it was touch and go for a while. I am still not persuaded that we have seen $40 for the last time, adjusted for any disintegration in the value of the dollar (i.e. 2007 dollars). This market looks alot like the 70's, including alot of handwringing over whether we have run out of oil for real this time. We shall see if history repeats itself, or if this time things really are different.

Dana

Posted by knuden   ( 2416 ) on Mar-14-08 at 00:36:21 PDT   Listings
thines - This tells a bit about how close the Germans were to have a nuclear bomb. :O)

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!

Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Mar-13-08 at 23:51:10 PDT   Listings
For those interested...

The "natural" fission reactors discovered having run their course long ago, are in Oklo, Gabon. People initially called the scientists claiming this happened nuts.....until they found traces of plutonium in the Oklo ore deposits, previously considered a man made element only possible to create in a reactor.

Interesting reading.....
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 22:20:53 PDT   Listings
dkru… The biggest problems with Herndon’s hypothesis are that it does not account for observable phenomena. First is that all “terrestrial planets” are composed of generally the same material, since they all formed from the same cloud of debris. Therefore they all should have a magnetic field, but Mars, as the most glaring example, does not. Secondly, the “uranium dynamo” cannot account for the reversing polarity of the earth’s magnetic field.

The current accepted hypothesis for the existence of earth’s magnetic field is that the movement of a molten iron outer core around a solid iron core sets up currents the same way simple electric motors do. The nice thing about this theory is that it conforms neatly to mathematics which describe the generation of electricity, accounts for the reversal of polarity that has occurred thousands of times in earth’s history, accounts also for the tendency of the magnetic poles to wander, and explains perfectly the fact that there is no magnetic field on Mars.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 22:08:22 PDT   Listings
thines… Most of the uranium in the earth sank toward the core during the earth’s formation. But its relative percentage compared to other constituents is low, and the core formed as a liquid so the elements within it are fairly evenly mixed. Uranium causes chain reactions only when a certain amount of the right isotope exists within a certain defined space (this is known as critical mass), and in the presence of a modulator. (The modulator is required because the neutrons flying away from a shattered nucleus are going too fast to shatter their neighbor nuclei, which is necessary for a chain reaction. Nuclear reactors use heavy water for this purpose; regular water will do, but not as efficiently.) The atoms of uranium are very few and far between in the core of the earth, which at its center is solid, although it is much hotter than the outer core, which is molten.

There is a place on earth where a natural uranium chain reaction occurred over the course of 100,000 years perhaps a billion years ago, due to a freak concentration of uranium ore and an appropriate modulating medium, a honeycomb water structure within the ore. There was an article about this phenomenon within the past couple years in Scientific American. This happened somewhere in Africa, where uranium is currently mined. The chain reaction did not create a runaway explosion, because as soon as things heated up sufficiently the water turned to steam, shutting the process down. Then, after enough water had re-accumulated in the ore seam, the reaction would begin again.

Eventually this natural reactor shut down when too much of the elemental uranium had been changed to a non-reactive isotope. But 100,000 years is a pretty good run for a nuclear power plant.

Jim
Posted by dkru   ( 357 ) on Mar-13-08 at 21:52:06 PDT   Listings
thines...?I don't know if he has more than a dozen neurons, but see J. Marvin Herndon.

Dana

Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-13-08 at 20:48:40 PDT   Listings
A question before going to bed:

I have some WWII covers that were held by the censorship office:

1) Front and Back
Cover sent from Chile in 1941 to Athens, Greece. Was missent to Athens, Georgia. It has a censor tape and a "Released by the Prize Court" in the back. The postmark in the back is a Chilean transit. No reception marks.
I read here about that Prize court mark that it was appied in Bermuda by the British censors and released after the end of the war.

My questions are, all the mail to/from Europe was censored in Bermuda? and was Bermuda the censorship place for just the British forces or for all the allies?

There is another Cover with this mark here, this time from France to USA. Sent in 1941 and released in 1950!

2) Front and Back
Cover sent from Chile in 1940 to Switzerland, received in 1946. From the article I previously linked, it should have been censored in Trinidad and held there. Later it was released with the mark "RELEASED~~~~~"

3)Front and Back
(This cover is not mine). Sent from Chile in April 1944 to Switzerland, received in September 1945.
Cover was marked with a "THIS ARTICLE HAS BEEN HELD BY THE OFFICE OF CENSORSHIP". The tape style makes me think that it was censored by USA forces (in fact it has a New York Transit). Am I right?

What puzzles me is that the first cover was missent to USA, but apparently it was later handled to the British censors; and the third cover was routed via USA (why?) and was censored and held by USA censors.
Posted by thines   ( 1571 ) on Mar-13-08 at 20:14:46 PDT   Listings
Jim W-S,

A non-philatelic question. I just watched on the History Channel an episode of "Cities of the Underworld" on underground Prague. It was actually pretty good, as this series usually is. Until the end. The narrator suggested that the Nazis had a "doomsday" weapon hidden under Prague. Said weapon was a nuclear bomb that would be dropped down a mine into the center of the earth to blow up the planet when the Nazis lost. Now, I know enough about WWII history to know that Aldolph and his buddies never came close to such a bomb. And the idea that you coulkd drop one down a mine and get to the center of the earth is absurd even to a dumb neuroscientist like me. But the narrator said "some geologists believe that the center of the earth is mostly uranium". And so the bomb would, blah, blah, blah. So my question is, is there any geologist who has more than a dozen neurons who believes the center is uranium as opposed to iron?

It's too late here for me to work out the implications of a uranium core. But it might make a nice final exam question for a geology course.

Just to make this sort of philatelic, in my "Pseudoscience on Stamps" collection I have a copy of Austria # 1331 honoring one Hanns Horbiger who was a proponent of the "World Ice Hypothesis" that held that we lived in the center of a hollow planet of ice. Apparently some Nazis believed this as well. Although not, obviously the ones who planned to ropan A bomb into the Earth's uranium core. One can but imagine the debate in higher Nazi circles between the World Ice camp and the more rational (???) camp about what would happen when an A bomb was dropped down (up?) a mine.

Terence Hines

Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 19:58:08 PDT   Listings
NOIP… An object lesson illustrating the horrors of cellophane tape. After having disfigured the paper, the tape eventually dries up and falls off, much the way some bloodsucking insects do when they’ve had their fill.

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 19:06:56 PDT   Listings
Dunc,

25% depreciation against the A$ in one year is a hell of a battering. I have a friend who collects a certain aspect of US Postal History (Gold Medal Level) and he is delighted at the current rate and hopes it will go even higher much to the chagrin of all of the exporters.

David B.
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 136 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:59:14 PDT   Listings
You're right, David (and Paul), the dollar is really getting battered. I don't pay much attention to exchange rates, except that in Wisconsin, we're close to Canada, and the US and Canadian dollar are at about par. That should put the US / Australian rate close to par, too.

Lucky me, about broke so nothing to lose.

-Carl

"Does anybody have change for a button?"
-Montgomery Burns on The Simpsons
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:54:49 PDT   Listings
IO,

yup, leave them intact and show them with the cancels upright,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:52:36 PDT   Listings
D2

OK, but would you leave the pieces intact?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:43:33 PDT   Listings
RICHARD -----I've heard all kinds of stories about huge collections and warehouses full of stamps .But when you ask the location and who they have been buying from then it starts to get cloudy .

Many times the person telling the story really not sure of the details but they know its huge .

I heard all kinds of interesting stories and they usally end when I offer $500.00 to look at the collection or accumulation if the size is what they say it is .

Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:34:39 PDT   Listings
IO, try out a few and see what happens. There are many collectors who are into cancels of that period and they have deep pockets.

p.s. the specialists I know about are in China, Japan & Australia,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:31:53 PDT   Listings
Paul,

ps. I wasn't waiting around for Ebay to happen, it did and I took advantage of it.

pps. I also have 1000's of unsold Ebay items which I listed in the late 1990's. I listed 8 of them last week which were unsold at $2 and they realised an average of $10 each,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:30:08 PDT   Listings
Okay, a question.

I have a whole slew of stamps of China from 1947 to 1950 on piece.

As such they have now postal history value except for the fact that they cross the time line between China and the Peoples Republic of China.

Almost all are common definitives and intrinsically most are worth minimal values. Except that many also have exceptional postmarks.

If it was possible to subdivide multiples on piece while retaining postmarks on subpieces, would it be advisable to dissect them or to leave them as whole pieces so it still can be seen what stamps were used in combination? Despite the fact that there is no indication of where they were sent to. Though provenance strongly indicates GB.

Some combinations include China, East China, North China and People's Republic.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:27:42 PDT   Listings
Paul, I have cupboards full & large cartons I haven't sorted out since the early 1990's and some going back to the 1970's and 1980's. At the moment I am going through my unsold lots from when I was handling the Philatelic Society of NSW, Postal History Auctions and sorting out material for Ebay.

David B.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1377 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:24:18 PDT   Listings
Paul, I just got off the phone with a friend in France who wanted advice on how to dispose of a "schmear" that fills 10,000 sq. foot warehouse. Worldwide in albums, collections, etc. purchased over the previous 50 years. Purchased from a widow of a collector who thought that he was going to be a stamp dealer in his retirement. Price is only 3m euros. I didn't ask if that included containerized shipment to the US.


Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:16:28 PDT   Listings
DC

You are too kind!!
But I never look a gift horse...etc
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:14:06 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. I admire your huge amount of sales over the past seven years and think you done well for yourself.But please I don't think that your as crazy as that Chicago collector who has spent huge amounts on cheap stamps and still has huge quanities of them . Your much too discipline to of had vast amounts of material like that sitting around waiting for e-bay to happen.Make no mistake your buying from someplace and I don't care to know where .But surely your not the type to have thousands and multi-thousands of regular stamps sitting in stockbooks or albums like this. Tens of thousands of future ebay stamps lots .....paul
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1725 ) on Mar-13-08 at 18:13:02 PDT   Listings
iomoon, it's in a large strip of 11 stamps with all sorts of marginalia.
Route 40 as seen from the one stamp.
I bought it specifically with you in mind.
If you want it just send me your address and I'll get the whole thing out to you.

I know you've sent me your address before but for security purposes (yours) I don't keep information like that.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:57:00 PDT   Listings
Paul,

I only buy for my collections and it doesn't matter what currency it is in as I think A$, English Pounds, US$, Euros or Swiss Francs,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:53:00 PDT   Listings
Duncan,

that's right, it is the decline of the US$ that has been forcing up the price of Gold,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:51:43 PDT   Listings
Jimbo2

I have indeed written some articles for the ATA but for the work study group journal rather than the main journals.

DC

Yep, it's missing from my collection.
That was one of a series of about six illustrating features along a major highway.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:51:10 PDT   Listings
Duncan, if you bought the Australian Dollar equivalent of US$100 at the January 2007 exchange rates it would have been over A$ 125 which is now US$ almost US$120.

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:40:49 PDT   Listings
DUNCAN -----You need to look at it this way for David .

If the biggest part of his stamp sales is to U.S. buyers he is getting a smaller dollar . If he is buying his material outside the U.S. then he is paying a higher price and selling it for dollars.These market are hurting the power sellers outside of the U.S. who depend on sales to U.S. ebay buyers ,they need to adjust their sales to oversea buyers which could be hard.

But if he is buying in the U.S. markets and selling overseas the willingness of those buyers to pay more can make up the difference .

Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 136 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:30:30 PDT   Listings
David, I don't follow your logic about $100 (or the US$ equivalent) in gold.

$100 in gold is $100 in gold, no matter what currency was used to buy it. So it would increase in value as gold did, with no more ties whatsoever to the currency that was used.

If I bought 100 lbs of feathers instead, would they weigh more today if I used another currency? (Just kidding, but I really don't see your point.)

It seems to me that what you are describing is the decline of the dollar that would've taken place while I held gold - I score big, right, since I didn't get stuck "going to cash" - in this case holding a declining dollar, and at the end I've got the gold instead, basically an international currency.

-Carl
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:18:00 PDT   Listings
Speaking of derailed musical careers, Ansel Adams was trained as a classical pianist, and was apparently very good. But he got interested in photography, if I’m not mistaken because he figured he could provide for his family better in advertising than in the Fine Arts. Some of the photos he took during his earliest career are stunning works of art, even though art was not what he was aiming at.

I was privileged to meet Adams at the party honoring him when he announced the donation of all his materials to the Center for Creative Photography, an adjunct of the University of Arizona. I was surprised to find how tall he was, and he had the longest fingers I have ever seen. They were all stained with photo chemicals, of course. He was a very friendly person.

I think there is an American Masters special coming up about him.

Jim
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1725 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:14:41 PDT   Listings
The reason I found this stamp is because for part of the last two weeks I've been mingling with "people" like this.
Got there via Argentina.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1725 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:10:37 PDT   Listings
iomoon, I looked at you volcano stamps collection and didn't see this one.

Argentine volcano stamp

Did I miss it or is it missing in you collection?

Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:08:28 PDT   Listings
briguy… I know! I was surprised to hear that about Alan Greenspan myself, although it’s hard for me to see him unbending enough to be anybody’s lover.



Rand used to chide him for not being conservative enough. I forget what it was that caused him to eventually be disillusioned. Interesting story though.

I think I also heard that Greenspan was on his way to being a professional musician at one point, but switched to banking and finance.

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 17:07:18 PDT   Listings
HungaryJim,

congratulations on reaching the Grand,

David B.
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:57:59 PDT   Listings
Jaywild Don't fret, bound editions of The Objectivist newsletter are still readily available on Amazon.

And yes, Alan Greenspan of Federal Reserve fame was one of her converts (and reportably her lover too).

If you need some of her US stamp, I have a couple sheets to spare. :o)
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:57:57 PDT   Listings
krayz… Unfortunately there is very little market for addressed First Day Covers. You might want to sift through this page of recently completed FDC auctions.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:54:03 PDT   Listings
That’s because they are hot dogs, or of similar constitution.

Just kidding…

Jim
Posted by afeht   ( 1280 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:49:33 PDT   Listings
I am not a fawning admirer of Ayn Rand as a writer or as a philosopher, but even her opponents would agree that her critic must have at least an inkling of the facts before offering an opinion in public.

Ayn Rand's books and essays are still selling like hot dogs, 60 years after they were written.

Objectivism, dead or alive, has nothing (absolutely nothing) to do with conservatism or ultra-conservatism.

Be just before you are generous.
Posted by krayz   ( 2719 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:32:55 PDT   Listings
Hello! My father as given me a couple of albums from when he collected stamps in the mid 1970's. The first one I'm looking at is US First Day Covers, from Jul, 1975. His album ends in Jan 1977. The envelopes are addressed to him. Looking thorugh the guides, I see that I may be better off selling this as a set rather than break it up. Any suggestions or unusual stamps I should look for? Thanks! Joe aka kRayz
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:32:44 PDT   Listings
My, what a cogent slip of the tongue—Rand wrote in the 20th Century of course, but the 10th Century is about where her ideals lay.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:31:31 PDT   Listings
If they put Daffy Duck on a stamp it’s only to be expected that Ayn Rand would get one too.



She was, alas, the second most turgid writer of the 10th Century, the first being Gertrude Stein. An émigré of the Soviet Union, when Rand got to America and got a very lucky break she interpreted it as a sign from the cosmos that she and only she knew what the truth about everything was. The resulting philosophy she concocted (Objectivism) fortunately died when she did, although it does linger on in certain intellectual backwaters.

There is a long tradition of USSR émigrés coming here and hatching ultra-conservative (but unworkable) theories of everything.



Jim
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 1003 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:25:20 PDT   Listings
OOPS

misspelled volcanoes

Sorry!
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 1003 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:21:33 PDT   Listings
iomoon

Hi Jim, Thanks for the congrats on the red star! Took a long time to reach it, and don't think I'll ever reach the next level at the rate I've been going so far!

On other matters, I read in the latest ATA journal a couple of days ago that this society is looking for authors to submit an article on their specific topic and thought of you and your volcances on stamps. Should be good exposure for your great work!

Jimbo2
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:20:07 PDT   Listings
NEWS-------Spink's of London which recently acquired Shreves stamp auction house in the USA,has now acquired SMYTHE of N.Y.C. which is a banknote,coins,old bonds and old stock certificates, and autograph seller.

Look for more companies to be looking at these alternate investment and collectible market firms to be bought up as the general public looks for other places to park their money .

Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:15:15 PDT   Listings
duncan,

if you had bought US$100 gold in January 2007 and sold it now it would be about US$150 worth of gold at 50% increase in the value of gold during that period.

if you had bought US$100 equivalent of gold in A$ in January 2007 which would have been about A$125 and sold it now it would be about A$190 worth of gold which is about US$180,

The same would hold true for Euros, Pounds Sterling and most other currencies,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-13-08 at 16:04:50 PDT   Listings
JUST A NOTE -------Those high value envlopes most likely carried Bearer Negotiable Bonds wether government issue or private issues.Same as cash but better ,a lot less weight .Thats why the high insurance.
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-13-08 at 15:44:50 PDT   Listings
Phil
Yep in days of "Old"
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-13-08 at 15:35:16 PDT   Listings
sneeky: Man, were we ever that young?
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-13-08 at 15:08:12 PDT   Listings
220man
Phil, I was also ships company, aviation metalsmith assigned to the aviation metal shop, was portside aft on the hanger deck, if memory serves me right.
Sailor Jake
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3956 ) on Mar-13-08 at 15:02:47 PDT   Listings

USS Lexington on eBay.

JayJim - thanks, I like unusual usages of US commemoratives.

Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 136 ) on Mar-13-08 at 14:58:20 PDT   Listings
Sure, David but the really good investment would've been in gold, no matter which currency. In fact, not to brag but my brother asked me a few years ago what I thought about gold as an investment. He had made his fortune in real estate in California and was getting nervous about the "bubble" because his holdings had really shot up in value.

I heartily recommended it. He had already sold some properties, but I've never asked him if he actually invested in gold. And after all it was really his idea, not mine. His wife is Iranian and she also had a strong belief in holding gold, and what they were considering was gold coins.

Anyway, I was, for a while, worried about the decline in value of the rest of his holdings, until I thought about it a little more. He had rental properties, and excellent tenants. His only problem, if you could call it a problem, was that he got along so well with his tenants that they tended to stay for long periods of time, so he couldn't get access to his properties to do significant upgrades.

I'm sure that if he has kept most of those properties, he's in it for the long term with maybe lower profits but less hassle than selling and then now buying again.

Actually it's funny that we don't discuss it more, but our emphasis is more on family things, not financial matters.

-Carl
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-13-08 at 14:54:21 PDT   Listings
Alex: Why not suggest Asimov? He's as well known as any of the other authors they've honored.
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-13-08 at 14:48:13 PDT   Listings
Try again here
Posted by afeht   ( 1280 ) on Mar-13-08 at 14:44:47 PDT   Listings
Re: Dred Scott vs. Ayn Rand

Ayn Rand was very much like Dred Scott, because she also was rocking the boat a 100 years before American society would be ready for a new vision of freedom, and dared saying truths that most men had no guts to face.

But of course those who thrive off the modern slavery, the government-enforced exploitation of the productive minority of the talented and able by the consuming majority of the lazy and mediocre, still hate her guts.

The last thing the USPS could be accused of is neglecting African Americans. On the opposite, Stamp Advisory Committee is so politically correct that many new issues are looking like ACLU propaganda.

What I don't understand is why the USPS doesn't consider issuing a set commemorating famous American science fiction writers. After all, the United States gave the world some of the best in SF: I. Asimov, R. A. Heinlein, R. Shackley, P. Anderson, Jack Vance, to name a few (though Vance is still alive, no good for a stamp yet). Even R. L. Hubbard was a pretty good SF writer before he decided to milk the human stupidity in a much more profitable way.
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-13-08 at 14:31:17 PDT   Listings
sneeky: I was ship's company.

Phil
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 14:17:03 PDT   Listings
duncan,

if someone had bought any of those currencies with US$ in January 2007 and sold them now they would be getting 25% increase.


David B.
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-13-08 at 14:01:38 PDT   Listings
220man
"Lex" was the same class carrier as the Happy Valley. Was you an "airdale" or general service?
Funny how life goes, spent my whole tour in Atlantic Fleet, my number two son spent just about all of his 27 year Navy career in the Pacific, except for two years in Sicily and four in Texas
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-13-08 at 13:58:01 PDT   Listings
Well, I'll continue to write them but I'm not holding my breath. In a way, Scott's case was the last peaceful way of trying to resolve the question of slavery in the Territories. We had tried political ways (Missouri Compromise & Kansas-Nebraska Act) and finally the courts, none of which worked and left war the only alternative.

Phil
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 13:50:17 PDT   Listings
220man… First of all, happy birthday!

I agree—Dred Scott sued for his own freedom, which was a very brave undertaking in 1850s America. Shortly after the Supreme Court decision Scott’s freedom was purchased by people interested in his case. By then he was worn out, although only in his fifties. He worked as a railroad porter if I’m not mistaken, and died less than six months later.

If the Postal Service can honor the likes of Ayn Rand, certainly it can find room for Dred Scott.

Jim
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-13-08 at 13:36:08 PDT   Listings
jaywild: Wrote a letter to Stamp Advisory Committee last year asking them to consider a stamp for Dred Scott, to no avail.

Phil
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-13-08 at 13:33:13 PDT   Listings
sneeky: I was in 55-57 and went as I had just flunked out of college. Parents unhappy! We put the Lexington back into service at Bremerton, then to San Diego for shakedown, then Westpac.

Phil
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 13:16:59 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Here is an interesting cover, a hand-delivered letter from Reverdy Johnson, signed by him in the upper right. Reverdy Johnson is most notable for being one of two attorneys for the respondent in Dred Scott v. Sandford. (The name is actually Sanford, but was misspelled in court papers.) Johnson was at one time also a law partner of Roger B. Taney, who later went on to become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Taney wrote the Dred Scott decision in which he stated that “the Negro has no rights that a white man is bound to respect.”

Jim
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 136 ) on Mar-13-08 at 13:05:54 PDT   Listings
Gold vs four currencies, a definite trend...

http://www.the-privateer.com/chart/g-multi.html

There's no great reason to expect gold to continue climbing forever; rather, think of it as money pulled out of real estate and stocks, looking for a safe hedge. That is, in part, what is driving the current price of oil too - nervous money.

It's all a matter of perceptions. If investors suddenly start to notice a bubble, the charts will start to look eerily like the earlier charts of real estate investments.

These are scary times. But then, there's always stamps.

-Dunc
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15484 ) on Mar-13-08 at 12:51:58 PDT   Listings
Jeff That is a wee bit before my time, but I would guess maybe even a new car was in that range. Obviously, banks were sending money or securities. The 573 cover was marked with $1,000,000 insurance if I recall correctly. God only knows what the $278 one was insured for. I get a headache just thinking about it. What was the Hope diamond insured for and what was the postage? Later use, but probably an easy measuring stick to use.
Off for a frosty beverage, been a long day scanning for the website. Cheers.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3956 ) on Mar-13-08 at 12:40:36 PDT   Listings

Gary - and $180 was a lot of money at that time.
Probably a pretty good used car?

Posted by gary.nes   ( 15484 ) on Mar-13-08 at 12:20:18 PDT   Listings
Jim



It appears that whoever paid the postage had plenty of $5 stamps (or bought them at the PO) and the $1.31 was "loose change" so they plastered the meter first and then started 'licken and 'sticken. See below for a 524 cover with only $180.33 in postage. The 12c stamps in the corner are perfins, pretty unusual that the $5 are not also, unless they were bought at the PO when mailed. Largest recorded franking of 524 I believe. Still looking for the 573 plate block on cover, hasn't turned up yet.

Eye Candy

Gary

Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-13-08 at 12:16:54 PDT   Listings
220man
Was in Uncle Sam's Canoe Club in 1954-'57, served in Port Lyautey, Norfolk and in the USS VALLEY FORGE CVS 45, which happened to be my last duty station.
Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-13-08 at 12:07:36 PDT   Listings
Gold -
Here's a useful site if anyone is interested in figuring out the relative changes.
http://goldprice.org/gold-price-history.html

Back to stamps!

Roger
Posted by 220man   ( 172 ) on Mar-13-08 at 11:53:00 PDT   Listings
sneeky: I just turned 71. I think we were in the Navy at the same time but different fleets!

Phil
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-13-08 at 11:28:39 PDT   Listings
A VERY GOOD wink DAY TO ALL!!

Many THANKS to all for the Birthday Wishes!!
For inquiring minds, its now 71yrs. young.

jim lawler
To bad you are so young, think would have been very interesting to meet with one of the Great Old Time cover Makers.
Can just bet, some of your older club members must have some interesting tales to tell of Walter.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 11:23:12 PDT   Listings
The Australian $ has increased 25% against the US $ since January 2007, does anyone know the price of gold at that time and whether that has also increased 25%.

I remember reading an article that the biggest buyers of Gold was India, does anyone know whether their currency has also increased by that much since January 2007,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-13-08 at 11:16:18 PDT   Listings
NOIP-----Got my fill on the sale at $1,000.00 .Daugther will be happy for extra spenting money ......

Plan to start working on Poland stamps

Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 11:12:47 PDT   Listings
Jeff S… Digging around a little more on that card, it was sent from Tachikawa Air Base, near Tokyo Japan. The base was closed in 1977, and the APO, 96323, is currently located on Maui (hi Roger!)

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-13-08 at 10:56:20 PDT   Listings
Alex,

you should have complained about the toning when you bought the stamps, bit too late to return them now,

IO,

It is not the price of Gold that is increasing, it is the US$ that is decreasing,

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-13-08 at 10:42:51 PDT   Listings
Jeff S… Thanks for your input. When I mount that card I will include all the possibilities. Another interesting note is the message—“Sure glad it’s over”. I’m guessing whoever wrote the card just finished up a tour in Vietnam.

I’ll bet he was even happier one day later, because that’s the day the great 1968 Tet offensive began.

I’m also deeply jealous of your 5¢ China Resistance cover. Those guys are hard to find on cover properly used.

Gary... That is a lovely cover. I like the meter tape in the corner. It looks from its position as if the tape was the first thing to go down on the cover.

And I’m confused—the same guy who has been trumpeting GO TO CASH now is saying he was in the gold market.

????

Must be another after-the-fact killing in the market…



bjorn... Welcome to the red star, grasshopper…

Jim
Posted by bjornmu   ( 1001 ) on Mar-13-08 at 09:42:20 PDT   Listings
Yipee! I might have gotten the Red Star a day earlier if I hadn't given a Neutral to a seller who hadn't yet given me feedback... And only a few hours later, spot gold breaks through $1,000, which also happens to be good for me. :-)
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3956 ) on Mar-13-08 at 09:33:27 PDT   Listings

I remember Bill from some 25 years ago when I was trying to collect early Denmark postal history and coming to grips that financially it was out of my league.

Posted by gary.nes   ( 15484 ) on Mar-13-08 at 09:13:52 PDT   Listings
Bill is still active, though to a lesser degree. I speak to him every few months in Edina MN. Doesn't come to Naples since his wife died. A real shame, I miss his company. The things I learned about classic US from him when I started out at 16 years old.....a true gentleman.

He must of handled every important piece in classic US postal history at one point. I remember being in awe when he showed my an original set of Brookmans and casually pointed out the cover captions "courtesy of Wm. O. Bilden" (they were partners at the time, I'm sure you knew), page after page, after page, after page..... I think he is still working on his Shanghais', but they may have been sold in China by now.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3956 ) on Mar-13-08 at 09:02:20 PDT   Listings

I remember Bill, a great student and sniffer-outer, I had not thought of him in years.

Posted by gary.nes   ( 15484 ) on Mar-13-08 at 08:49:37 PDT   Listings
BTW If I recall the customer who bought the 480 cover, was miffed it had a meter instead of stamps. LOL
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15484 ) on Mar-13-08 at 08:48:05 PDT   Listings
Jeff I had four covers of that type, many moons ago. One with a large amount of #524 $5, the #480 I showed, a 573 plate block on one (the only PB on cover recorded), and I think one with mixed 480s and 524s. Tremendous covers, came from Bill Bilden when he used to rent some space from me at the shop in Naples. He had an "in" at the bank, obviously. Amazing they kept the envelopes that many years though! Bill B., good God, the stuff he had!!!! I'll "scratch around" I may have some copies of the other ones and post.
Posted by afeht   ( 1280 ) on Mar-13-08 at 08:33:53 PDT   Listings
I found the name of stain/toning removal liquid. Took some time googling it out. It was called "Foxit"; it contained chloroamine-T as an active ingredient. I suppose it's not sold anywhere any more, because it is considered dangerous.

So, I am stuck with toned Roos, I guess.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-13-08 at 08:25:08 PDT   Listings
BANK OF Scotland shows a high of 996.00 in the overnights on their FX desk up 13.00 for today .Sco-ish Bank has a MIT order in at that price and it wasn't filled yet .Daughter needs funds to go on spring break to Cozumel .
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3956 ) on Mar-13-08 at 08:07:40 PDT   Listings

Gary - I think Doug Kelsey might not like it all that much, those stamp things messing up a nice meter cover. (grin)

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3956 ) on Mar-13-08 at 08:06:22 PDT   Listings

I just picked up this gem (to me) 2x 5c China Resistance commem paying the 10c airmail rate from Puerto Rico to the Mainland (Hi Roger).

JayJim, the 10c domestic air rate changed to 10 cents the same month as your card. While it could just be dismissed as a first class convenience franking, I think there is more story there as to using up older stocks of the 10c Liberty issue as late as 1967. I think it is an interesting Liberty item.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-13-08 at 07:36:22 PDT   Listings
Well gold did hit the $1000.

I've been lax, congrats jimbo2 and bjorn on the relatively new stars.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-13-08 at 07:35:39 PDT   Listings
Well gold did hit the $1000.

I've been lax, congrats jimbo2 and bjorn on the relatively new
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15484 ) on Mar-13-08 at 06:56:44 PDT   Listings
Morning all. Glad to see a little input and show/tell about 4 1/2c Prexies.

Jim- nice 3rd class insured usage, even if it is from a stamp dealer.

For a change of pace, 4 1/2c is just such a small amount, here is a correctly franked cover, $278.31 in postage. You read that right!

Just a little cover

Gary

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-13-08 at 05:28:45 PDT   Listings
Looks like a good day for GOLD to test the $1,000.00 level today ,any negative news , it can go there .

Happy Birthday -----Sneeky

Nice weather =A lot of work for me .

China done 74 pages ,last night ,next fall will try to find at auction a specialized study or collection to add to my work just to expand it .

Posted by philaweb   ( 361 ) on Mar-13-08 at 00:17:30 PDT   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!

Seems to me there is monkeybusiness going on today.

Posted by bjornmu   ( 1001 ) on Mar-12-08 at 23:49:50 PDT   Listings
Happy birthday Sneeky!
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-12-08 at 22:52:53 PDT   Listings
Jeff or anybody who knows rates… Is this a simple overfranking? It is an airmail card sent APO, and does not exceed the size restrictions which would bump it up to first class letter rate. Postmark date is 1968.

I’ll check back tomorrow for input.

Jim
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1494 ) on Mar-12-08 at 20:55:17 PDT   Listings
ccmouse
Great to see your post. :8^ )

sneeky37
Unfortunately Mr. Crosby died before I was born. I’ve only heard second hand stories about them from fellow club members that are into First Days or club history. Hope you have a happy birthday.

Jim L.

member
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-12-08 at 20:46:21 PDT   Listings
Goodnight to all and to all sweet dreams of bananas and cheese (hi Deb!), intersesting Prexies, and well-toned stamps (wouldn't want them to get flabby, would we? Anne
Posted by peetah   ( 526 ) on Mar-12-08 at 20:42:17 PDT   Listings
Thanks, David. Check email in a few minutes.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8951 ) on Mar-12-08 at 20:26:25 PDT   Listings
peetah, the Queensland perf. OS is a State perforation & not Federal, therefore it does not have a catalogue value as State perfs are not catalogued. I would guess it's value is about the same as normal. I have no idea if the perf. 12 exists OS, maybe D1 up in Brissy might know,

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1059 ) on Mar-12-08 at 20:12:22 PDT   Listings
Sneeky…

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

Jim
Posted by peetah   ( 526 ) on Mar-12-08 at 19:17:28 PDT   Listings
Can anyone give the used catalogue values for Queensland Stanley Gibbons # 262 a b c illustration 26 (T 26?)the 1/2d Victoria of 1899 - 1906 with punched O S ?
Was the 262b perf 12 punched O S?
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1996 ) on Mar-12-08 at 17:56:23 PDT   Listings
I don't see a whole lot of solo 4.5 prexies, but I'm not sure that the insured usage is overly scarce compared to a printed matter usage -- precisely because the insured usage can not infrequently be found on minimum-value insured mailings of stamps. I have two solo 4 1/2 prexies in stock at the moment, both 3rd class (one of mailing of developed photographs; the other a truly wild one used to forward 3rd class mail after original mailing under a permit imprint).
Posted by lookwhatbobfound   ( 332 ) on Mar-12-08 at 17:14:53 PDT   Listings
zzz
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-12-08 at 16:28:37 PDT   Listings
Thanks Knuden
Sure do appreciate your kindness, but didn't see you mention any Bananas as snack food.
Know about the early retirement due to health, was my case in 1998.
Gives me time to pursue my hobbies, but leaves the finances a little short.
Like you have a good wife and on the whole life has been very full and good to me.
Posted by knuden   ( 2416 ) on Mar-12-08 at 16:21:37 PDT   Listings
Sneeky - Congratulation Dan. :O)
All are well here at the cold north. I got a retirement last year due to health but are basely fine and have a happy life with my dear wife.
The balcony are cleaned for the occasion - the cooler are full of nice driks and lots of snacks are around on the tables. I have hired some monkeys to do the cleaning, so take a rest after the party. :O)

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!

Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-12-08 at 16:06:05 PDT   Listings
Hi Paolo
Thanks for the Greetings.
Looks like the "Mouse" struck again, must learn not to let her get into the Cheese.
Yes, seems I'll be cleaning the Balcony for some time to come, hope Knuden left me a few snacks.
Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-12-08 at 15:37:52 PDT   Listings
Nice to see you posting CCmouse!

My greetings to you and Dan!

Happy Birthday, Dan!

I just can guess who will have to clean all of those banana peels, popcorn, and empty rum bottles from the balcony in the early morning!?!? ;-)

Best,
Paolo

Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-12-08 at 15:35:54 PDT   Listings
Guess I had better edit more carefully should be "Chance to meet them"
Really haven't been nipping on the Brandy this afternoon
Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-12-08 at 15:34:10 PDT   Listings
Very nice covers Roger!

As you know, I only have this one
with a DeCoppet cancel, the day after the Issue.
On reverse, the only "bridge" postmark of Bern the same day,
three hours later:
here.
Even though it is philatelically inspired, it bears the correct district rate 5 Rp. and I like the cancel(s) very much (therefore I acquired it)!

The adhesive is type 44 in the basic 50 types of plate I,
and, in particular, it occupied position 194 in the sheet of 200.

I updated the two discussions I opened, on two different Italian philatelic Forums, centered about your exhibits on Swiss cancels, with this cover.

Kind regards,
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-12-08 at 15:31:35 PDT   Listings
A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL!!

jim lawler
You are more than welcome for the info on Mrs. Crosby.
Hope you got a chase to meet with them?
As you probably know I'm a member of the USCS, their Naval Cover Cachet Makers catalogue has a lot of good info in it.
Duke Gmahle was not the only purchaser of stock from the Crosby Estate, but he did purchase the majority, he did change the Crosby designs around a little, but all in all they look very similar to Walter's and can be rather confusing to some collectors and sellers.
Have seen a few similar covers done by other cachet makers copying both Crosby & Gmahle, they could be the ones who purchased some of the Crosby stock, or just made up their cachets to look like Crosby's.

Iomoon
Do remember you are not a Naval cover collector, and I still keep my eyes open in the USCS Log auction sales for a Sangay cover for you.
Yes the other is just about unaffordable for just about all of us, even if we were lucky enough to find one.
Posted by ccmouse   ( 113 ) on Mar-12-08 at 15:15:47 PDT   Listings

Hello to all you balcony dwellers



I am getting this for sneeky's birthday. Maybe with some coaxing he will decorate the balcony with it.



CCmouse

<*,, ,,)~~~~~~~~~~

Posted by soggy333   ( 57 ) on Mar-12-08 at 15:12:36 PDT   Listings
On the other hand I have encountered collectors who insist on collecting these toned stamps. They write "shade" under them after mounting. I was trying to sell some modern British Colonies issues. On the 102 card I correctly described them as "glazed paper" along with the Scott (a) sub numbers. The collector rebuked me for trying to sell "damaged" stamps!
Posted by soggy333   ( 57 ) on Mar-12-08 at 15:05:37 PDT   Listings
My old buddy in Nicaragua lost his first collection in a fire, the second in a flood and the third one simply died in the Central American climate. Nearly all of the pre 1940 stamps just turned brown over the years!
Posted by dbenson   ( 8940 ) on Mar-12-08 at 13:44:38 PDT   Listings
Lindy,

the worst affected collection I have seen was actually from Avalon on Sydney's Northern Beaches, the owner had a waterfront house overlooking the beach.

David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-12-08 at 13:32:04 PDT   Listings
Correction Change -
"As of 1 January 1900" to,
As of 1 January 1901,

Posted by malolo   ( 884 ) on Mar-12-08 at 13:30:17 PDT   Listings


Aloha Paolo -

Nice additionas to your UPU plating study. I have always stayed away from plating, my eyes get weary and I’m always concerned I will be missing something on a stamp that I should keep rather than put it off to the side as a trade.

As we all know the cancel inhances the quality of any stamp. LOL
Here are a few examples from my collection showing uses of the Swiss UPU stamps of 1900.

A First Day Cover and a last hour philatelic cover.
This is one of my favorite cards.

Jeff, the 5 and 10 centimes cards were also issued on 2 July 1900 and here they are with the special UPU Convention cancel. The 2 July is unaddressed and would have been a handback, possibily to a delegate. DeCoppet attended the Convention promoting his new flexible head canceler to all who would listen. Maybe he sat at the PO desk and canceled this card on the first day.

My favorite destination of UPU cards.

As of 1 January 1900, the stamps were no longer valid for use, so back to normal messing around.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 586 ) on Mar-12-08 at 13:17:18 PDT   Listings
David, I'm sure he is thinking of chloramineT
a very dangerous chemical that makes stamps look good for a year or 2 and then they suddenly disintergrate!!
Sounds like he purchased a collection from Cairns or Rockhampton !
L.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8940 ) on Mar-12-08 at 13:13:03 PDT   Listings
Alex,

it seems that your acquisition from Noblespirit may have been acquired from an area that is prone to toning.

I remember when I was at an Exhibition in Brazil and I asked one of the dealers about the prevalence of toned stamps he was selling and was rebuked as he considered it as normal.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8940 ) on Mar-12-08 at 13:09:17 PDT   Listings
Alex, yes, the 1st. watermark is often off centre but the 2nd. watermark is usually badly misplaced with parts of the design straddling two or more stamps,

David B.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3949 ) on Mar-12-08 at 13:04:37 PDT   Listings

Or the social misfits board

Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-12-08 at 13:00:58 PDT   Listings
David,

1st watermark is also often far off center, sometimes with straight frame lines going almost through the middle of the stamp.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:59:26 PDT   Listings
NOIP

I know there is a healthy market for British city cancels of the Victorian era.

I wondered if there was a similar market for Chinese city cancels, particularly from the time frame 1948 to 1950 during the transition from China to the People's Republic of China.

Dan

Sorry for slow reply but have been laid up for the last few days. I don't actively collect them as I have but the two missing, one of which is way out of my price range. The other, Sangay, I have never seen, though I don't look too hard.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3949 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:55:11 PDT   Listings

JW - especially nice being the coil. Nice indeed.

Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:53:54 PDT   Listings
David,

About a year ago I bought a huge accumulation of early Astralian stamps from eBay dealer ironically called "NobleSpirit." Unfortunately, this particular accumulation was all strongly toned, as if somebody "smoked" the stamps, compared to several other collections/accumulations that I bought at the same time. This toning was impossible to recognize on scans.

Now I wonder if I could restore some freshness of these yellowed stamps, many of which are fine in all other respects.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8940 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:52:53 PDT   Listings
Alex,

The only ones I have ever seen toned or what appears to be yellowish paper have been the later 3d. value and it may have been something in the ink that caused it.

I have never heard of a cleaning agent specifically for stamps but some collectors use a light bleach to brighten the paper but sometimes that also changes the color of the stamps or cancels.

The 2nd. watermark is always off center as it was specifically made for the KGV Heads and always shows badly positioned on the Roos. If you have any badly positioned Crown A watermarks the probability is that it is 2nd. watermark.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8940 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:46:43 PDT   Listings
Alex,

where have you been acquiring your Australian material from. There are various areas in Australia that have stamp toning problems, particularly Queensland & parts of Northern NSW coastal areas and the Northern Beach area of Sydney, in most other urban areas there are no toning problems although I know of one collector who kept his stamps in his garage and when they were sold every stamp & cover was heavily spotted,

p.s I think it would be better for you to ask your Australian questions on the Australian board,

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:46:32 PDT   Listings
P.S. The 2nd watermark is the hardest to see, and, for some reason, the most difficult to find (in my limited experience).
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:40:56 PDT   Listings
David,

I am afraid you misunderstood my post. I am sorry if I didn't express myself clearer.

I didn't say they were issued on toned paper. It is just that the paper of many of my Roos has toned and became yellowish, compared to more fresh-looking copies. And I remember an archival liquid of some kind being advertised as restoring the whiteness of the toned stamp paper without distorting the color. But I forgot the name of that liquid.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8940 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:36:06 PDT   Listings
Alex,

I can't recall seeing any Roos printed on yellowish toned paper, they were printed on white paper,

The 1st. watermark were on very thin white paper with sometimes what appears to be airholes or thin spots but are actually just the way that the paper was manufactured. The 2nd. watermark is the paper that was normally used for KGV Heads but was pressed into service as there was a shortage of 1st. Watermark paper. The 3rd. Crown A watermark is on White paper and varies is about medium thickness. The later watermarks are all on white paper,

David B.
Posted by rioroyal   ( 393 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:14:56 PDT   Listings
Jaywild--Take a break.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-12-08 at 12:08:57 PDT   Listings
what kind was the name of that liquid… You’ll have to ask your questions in English before we can help you.

Jim
Posted by spain_1850   ( 371 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:58:08 PDT   Listings
Off to work now! Gotta earn, so I can pay!
Posted by spain_1850   ( 371 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:56:46 PDT   Listings
afeht - I have an original set that I paid US$150.00 for. I've seen individual copies sell for $60-75 each. They also reprinted these books a few years ago, but I have not seen them so cannot verify their quality (or price) compared to the original. I haven't seen any on ebay for a while, but they do show up on occasions. The actual title is "Guia del Collecionista de Sellos de Correos de Espana" by A. Tort. Vol. 1 covers 1850-54, vol. 2 1855-69 and vol. 3 1870-1900. They are in Spanish however (something I struggle with but, I'm getting better.)
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:47:57 PDT   Listings
spain_1850,

I admit I've never heard of Tort Guides. Are they easy to find? Very expensive?
Posted by spain_1850   ( 371 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:42:32 PDT   Listings
afeht - Yes, it is a difficult area of philately. I wonder sometimes why I chose it, but the short answer is I like a challenge. The Edifil cat. is a good choice for general information, as well as some in-depth. Another valuable source of of even more specialized information is the Tort guides (3-volumes), which focus on varieties, plating & cancels. It also is one of the better reference works that offers information on the "secret marks" of the earlies, for detection of genuine and stamps and forgeries. Spain is one of the most prolific areas for forgeries.
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:41:02 PDT   Listings
Re: Toned paper

I accumulated quite a bit of Australian Roos. hundreds of them; unfortunately, many Roos are on yellowish, toned paper that makes shade identification difficult. The paper they were printed on seems to be especially susceptible to toning. I seem to remember that there was an archival liquid of some kind that helps restoring the whiteness of paper without changing color.

I would appreciate it if somebody (except the Chosen Dozen Mutual Congratulations Club, of course)would remind me, what kind was the name of that liquid.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:35:56 PDT   Listings
Jeff S… Here is a 4½¢ prexie coil 3rd class + insured usage. Yes, it’s from a stamp company, but I think it really contained insured merchandise.

Jim
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:33:43 PDT   Listings
desintegrates = disintegrates, sorry.
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:33:09 PDT   Listings
spain_1850,

Thank you for your offer. I do have quite an extensive collection of classic Spain, though some key values are missing. I am using Edifil catalog to evaluate postmarks, perforations, etc.

It seems that Spanish classic stamps are more difficult to find in fresh colors and sound condition than stamps of many other countries. Also, some early issues are on such thin, fragile paper that it literally desintegrates in your hands sometimes.
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15478 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:30:42 PDT   Listings
Jeff

Thanks, nice to have the story that goes along with the item! The PO must of changed the mailing requirements from 1st to 3rd class in 1935.

I knew there was a great 4 1/2c single rate, but am not an expert on these rates by any stretch of the imagination. I'll be on the lookout for the insured rate now.

I am launching the New England Stamp website, neglecting eBay somewhat, so these will be up sometime in the future. Unfortunately, my "cover guy" for eBay had a massive stroke in Nov. and I can't do everything. Probably why you haven't bought anything from me lately ;-) Gary

Posted by spain_1850   ( 371 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:14:06 PDT   Listings
afeht - I notice by your "me" page you are into classic stamps. If you have any questions about Spanish classics, please don't hesitate to post them, I'll be happy to offer my humble opinion.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3949 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:13:19 PDT   Listings

my label

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3949 ) on Mar-12-08 at 11:08:48 PDT   Listings

Mine requests 15 cents postage, I figure 3c first class x 5 ounces. In spite of that it was franked only with 7 2-centers, and arrived 1 cent due.

The solo 4-1/2 cent prexie items are not that scarce, I have a couple myself in my 3rd class mail collection, and I think there is one on eBay at this moment. Yours should do well as it is an unusual third class use.

The truly scarce solo 4-1/2c is the third class insured use -- 1.5c third class and 3 cents insurance.

Your Famous American item should do well too, I could use it myself.

Correct on Phil.

Jeff

Posted by gary.nes   ( 15478 ) on Mar-12-08 at 10:59:53 PDT   Listings
Jeff

Thanks for the info, I was at a loss as to what it would of contained. What is the franking of the WB you have?
I have always kept my eyes open for unusual Prexies and can't recall a single 4 1/2c used correctly (non-philatelic). Venus exhibit: Is that P. Stager? Gary

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3949 ) on Mar-12-08 at 10:19:10 PDT   Listings

Hi Gary, they are usually blood samples for Wasserman tests for syphilis. I know of one Prexie exhibitor who has one example (don't recall the franking), one is in the Ailments of Venus exhibit, I have seen another with a meter franking, and I have one in my Washington Bicentennial collection. (I tried to upload a scan to my image hosting place but it is not cooperating at the moment. Jeff

Posted by gary.nes   ( 15478 ) on Mar-12-08 at 09:47:09 PDT   Listings
Prexie Students

Has anyone reported any usages of Prexies on wrappers for Bacteriological specimens? See link below for a pretty unusual item I located. It is a complete wrapper (when "wrapped" it meets up perfectly) with a 4 1/2c Prexie and the declaration at left:
"Specimen for Bacteriological Examination To Be Pouched With Letter Mail," as per order No. 7831, October 5, 1935, Postmaster General.
Under 8 oz. 3rd class rate of 1 1/2 cent for each 2 oz; over 8oz. 4th class rate.
This package meets requirements of Sections 568, 574 and 589 U.S. P.L. and R.

This should of been over 6oz and less than 8oz for this rate to be correct. I also have the same wrapper with a 5c Famous American, seems to be 1/2c overpaid. Size wise, I would say it would wrap a normal size Gerber baby food jar (3 1/2" tall). I'm sure the 4 1/2c single correct usage has to be a difficult one to find!

4 1/2c Prexie

Any thoughts or comments welcome.

Gary

Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-12-08 at 08:19:26 PDT   Listings
A propos...

Foul language and toilet-level jokes used by the heroic defenders of our "anthropology professor" describe her real qualifications better than any criticism ever would.

Tell me, who is your friend, and I will tell you, who you are.
Posted by lawat56   ( 184 ) on Mar-12-08 at 06:23:40 PDT   Listings
no they are not glued to the board but each one is on it's on paper thanks for your input
lawat56 louis w.
Posted by thines   ( 1569 ) on Mar-12-08 at 05:56:48 PDT   Listings
Lawat56

It looks like a nice piece of "folk art". But since it appears that the stamps are extremely common ones, and probably glued to the backing, there is no philatelic value.

Terence Hines

Posted by lawat56   ( 184 ) on Mar-12-08 at 05:50:45 PDT   Listings
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good morning all i was hoping to get some input from some of you about this collection of stamps that was put together
by a ww1 vet in the early 1930's and was wornding if it is trash or treasure in any of your opinions there are 290 stamps around the the stamps that make up the states that are canceled stamps thanks for any input louis w. lawat56
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1491 ) on Mar-12-08 at 04:50:25 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


sneeky37
Thanks for the details. Crosby and his wife were active in the Indiana Stamp Club. Off the top of my head I knew that she had continued the business and later sold it, but could not have given the buyer or the date. Again, Thanks.
Jim L.

member
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-12-08 at 03:17:42 PDT   Listings
Jim Jaywild

I've emailed to you the freecell game that's installed in Windows XP. I have no idea if it will run on Vista, but I guess there are good chances.
Posted by philatarium   ( 251 ) on Mar-11-08 at 23:13:20 PDT   Listings
I should not make a post at the end of the day:

(i) "... number for that particular stamp appears."

(ii) "... prior years' programs ..."

(iii) "... this may serve your purpose."

'Night!

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 586 ) on Mar-11-08 at 22:25:03 PDT   Listings
Bookmark
Posted by philatarium   ( 251 ) on Mar-11-08 at 22:23:07 PDT   Listings
fxxy: I bet you can find the information you're looking for here:

http://www.virtualstampclub.com/2008usnew.html

For any given stamp (that's already been assigned a Scott number) you can click on the link that says "Scott Catalogue Numbers" and the number for that particular appears. Near the top of that page are links back to prior years programs as well, so this may service your purpose.

Also, many of the participants in the discussion forums stay right on top of recent issues, so you could catch up on any late-breaking news there:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/stamps/messages
or click on "Message Board" on the first link above.

Hope that helps!
Posted by charlietuna619   ( 0 )   on Mar-11-08 at 22:07:19 PDT   Listings
hello... I'm trying to build a collection of the u.s. americana series. Is there anyone out there that collects in
this area? Looking for any help.
Posted by red-dog9   ( 3675 ) on Mar-11-08 at 21:47:36 PDT   Listings
Thanks DB, that's what I figured too.
Rick
Posted by fxxy   ( 435 ) on Mar-11-08 at 21:37:42 PDT   Listings
Any way I can find out about new scott numbers (US) without buying an entire new catalogue?? Getting awfully expensive...
Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-11-08 at 21:34:43 PDT   Listings
P.S.
Roger and Jeff,
Here (Warning: large image! -- darker stripes are temporarily caused by my scanner)
are just a few of my mint 5 Rp. plate I (only the pair on the left is lightly hinged, the rest is never hinged, of course).
All are obviously plated, thanks to the book I previously mentioned.
Noticed: position 10 with retouch, in the above strip of three with sheet margin,
and at bottom a block of 7, with one stamp re-adjoined (previously belonged to the block) positions 37-40/47-50.
On other pages I have the positions below and up to 200, not all mint, just another few of it, most of mine are used.
My interest is to plate these stamps, as from the title of the book I cited; it is therefore obvious I opt for mint, where I can see all of the details of the printed elements of my interest.
I do not care of covers (much less postcards) or endless pages of common cancels of Switzerland - for Italy is a totally different story, but that, however, is my ubi consistam).
Anyhow, I do appreciate those cancelled with Rasierklingenstempel , of course, and I keep them apart.
I showed a couple about a year ago on this very board, amng which a 5 Rp. plate II "ohne Florian", with Razor cancel of Basel, type II.

Paolo


Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:52:47 PDT   Listings
Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of Swiss UPU issues, covers by Bing (oops--wrong Crosby), and antique computer games (jezzball anyone?) Anne
Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:48:43 PDT   Listings
Howdy Jeff,
I am making some photocopies to satisfy your interest on Italy at Work validity period postal rates.
I bought the two stamps in question just because the 5 rp. is position 7 of plate II, which I missed.

I do have some hundreds with various cancels, including the 25 Rp. all plated with the top notch positions (except from plate III).
NOIP - I do not let, neither accept, anybody to tell me what should be more or less fun for me to collect.
Paolo
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:40:58 PDT   Listings
YES ,your correct there are .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:39:39 PDT   Listings
NOIP------ more Swiss UPU --------Useage is more fun to collect than off -center mint hinged ....... MORE FUN TO COLLECT ....paul --- who is off to bed
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:31:09 PDT   Listings
jim lawler
Duke did many Mindoro and Salem in the Crosby style, believe he served aboard both ships
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3949 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:26:41 PDT   Listings

thanks paul. Aren't there some matching postal stationery cards as well?

Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:25:59 PDT   Listings
jim lawler
Mrs. Crosby only carried on for about a year, she sold off everything and Duke Gmahle bought a lot of the stock.
The accepted rule with most Naval cover collectors, is any Crosby looking cover after 1948 belongs to those who either purchased stock from the Crosby estate, or just produce similar style covers as those of Walter Crosby.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:24:32 PDT   Listings
POSTALHYSTERIA----Here are a few covers of the UPU issue . SWISS UPU
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3949 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:12:43 PDT   Listings

JW - I have also tried the Vista Freecell, would just as soon hit myself repeatedly in the knees with a baseball ( or cricket) bat.

I do like Spider Solitare, something that my less than genius mind can handle.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:10:59 PDT   Listings
Just got home from school and still trying to get this China thing right ,will make a page or two ,but starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel .

Think I got promoted today by the State of Illinois Hwy. Dept . they gave me one of their crews to supervisor and then we met up with another crew .So naturally I decided to have everybody stop for a morning break. I when to buy coffee and toasted bagels with strawberry creamcheese .Boy was that a big hit for them ,they love the new boss. Maybe I'LL run for governor with creamchesse bagels as a platform .

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3949 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:09:45 PDT   Listings

Paolo! - a few years ago I viewed a 1-frame, 16 page exhibit of that issue, quite impressive, including all postally used on cover.

Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:01:41 PDT   Listings
Oops, the bold!
Posted by vonbag   ( 208 ) on Mar-11-08 at 20:01:09 PDT   Listings
Good day all from very windy Shoes!

Aloha RogerNot really your field, but I am having lots of fun with the relatively newly acquired booklet "Schweiz UPU 1900..." of René Gees (Reprint of Kottelat & Cie, Bern).
these two, for instance, are useful for me... ;-)

Paolo
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1491 ) on Mar-11-08 at 19:54:48 PDT   Listings
Walter Crosby's cachet business was continued after his death by his wife and many such covers are possible.
Jim L.

member
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-11-08 at 19:42:30 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Anybody know how to download a copy of the “old” FREECELL solitaire game? It has been changed for the worse for Microsoft Vista, and I’m sure the old version is available somewhere. I tried Download.com and their downloads do not work, and I see by customer comments that no one else has been able to get them to work either. Microsoft.com doesn’t even recognize the game under its search on its “games download” page. (It’s a Microsoft development—go figure.)

Jim
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-11-08 at 19:28:08 PDT   Listings
IOMOON
By chance are you still looking for any AE naval covers. Last lot I purchased from Capt. Rommel before he passed away had a number of AE ships covers in it.
Speaking of naval covers and their cachet makers, here is an example of how some sellers confuse DUKE GMAHLE'S covers with those of Walter Crosby's. As you can see,Gmahles covers are done in the Crosby style, but check the date, this cover was done three years after Crosby died.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-11-08 at 18:18:00 PDT   Listings
Milenko The winning bidder of that lot was a zero feedback buyer from Israel (previously unkown to anyone).
The set would be very nice to have at a good price, although the current wave of buyer frenzy in stamps will probably keep the price to high for me. As I am a world collector, there are many stamps I need, and many I can just simply forget about ever owning. I'm quite happy with all I have already, but the bug still bites.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-11-08 at 18:16:25 PDT   Listings
reddog,

most probably caused by sunlight/water/bleach/chemicals,

David B.
Posted by figmente   ( 917 ) on Mar-11-08 at 18:13:36 PDT   Listings
a***t
What is a probabilistic approach to the objectivity of beauty perception?
Sounds to me like the near random juxtaposition of longer than average words to produce vaguely intellectual sounding nonsense.

others
Sorry about feeding the troll.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-11-08 at 17:49:58 PDT   Listings
Jeff
Thank you! That set was used just for one year and covers aren't common. That makes the search more interesting!

Mitch
Honestly I think that the pictures made no difference in the final value. That seller had two or three Chile lots running at the same time, I was following one for a friend (It had an extremely rare cancel) and all lots had a strange bidding behaviour and ended with high final prices. I've more or less identified my competitors based on their feedback numbers and the winning bidders were unknown to me.

By the way, if you really want that set, I'd recommend to buy a complete set (I have just the first two values and it has been impossible to get the others), and an used one. The mint ones are too pricey and the result of cheating the post office. I'll ask here for available sets.
Posted by red-dog9   ( 3673 ) on Mar-11-08 at 17:47:04 PDT   Listings
Greetings: I have (2) 3d "Seal of the Colony" stamps of Barbados. The stamp on the left is the normal violet on yellow paper while the one on the right has me stumped; it looks to be violet-brown on normal paper. Is this a recognized variety? Thanks, Rick
http://www.picture-monster.de/image/view/zmAeTUfJtm/AAAStamps001.jpg
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 247 ) on Mar-11-08 at 17:22:06 PDT   Listings
hungaryjim I use activa and I experienced the same crazy thing with those 'detail boxes'.

NOIP- Do you enjoy history, think your pretty good at remembering details? Try this history game compliments of the History channel.
Lynn
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-11-08 at 16:47:14 PDT   Listings
Peter,

the same seller has this common forgery for sale,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380003765677

David B.
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 1001 ) on Mar-11-08 at 15:47:37 PDT   Listings
Hi All

Anyone else having trouble listing new items using an old one as a template? I find that I have to click edit a second time when entering a new scan in the picture box. Also, that annoying new feature with the additional boxes for condition, topic, specific topic and one other keeps change on me and enters the wrong info!

Jimbo2
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 85 ) on Mar-11-08 at 15:32:36 PDT   Listings
How's this for a fake cancel and a well hacked centre: 300200622082. Real one to be found here:-
http://www.rhodesia.co.za/ny58.jpg
Seller informed
cheers
Peter
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-11-08 at 15:29:33 PDT   Listings
Milenko Here is the auction that prompted my questions about the first Chilean airmails. I made a mistake about asking him for a better scan and whether they were mint or used and if stained. He responded by putting the scans on the auction page. Methinks if I had not queried him, the lot would have gone for much less <:~`(
It was a nifty lot but went for much more than I was willing to bid. The 1912 5 & 10 peso also look stained so presumably many more were.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-11-08 at 15:17:20 PDT   Listings

lluehhhb - I like your study, a quick look thru my Germany covers yielded nothing.

Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-11-08 at 13:39:11 PDT   Listings
A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL!!
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-11-08 at 13:26:43 PDT   Listings
lluehhhb,

outright forgeries would be a more apt description than reproductions,

David B.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-11-08 at 13:19:12 PDT   Listings
last post was removed, probably since it pointed to an active auction.

The poster (don't remember the name) asked about this picture, if both stamps are reproductions.

I have little knowledge about this but to me the stamps looks strange...
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:56:56 PDT   Listings
Last two weeks have been great for my Germany Wagner series collection. Some of the items I've won:

1) Finally found an used copy of the Postal stationery card from the series, and even better with a "Landpost" usage. (PS: am I right when I say that this is an "auxiliary" post office?)

2) Also got the same card but used with the special cancel for the construction of a Wagner monument. This usage is listed in the Michel catalogue.

This card is cheap but I had some trouble finding one correctly used. Now in some days I got two nice ones!

3) A rate I didn't have, International printed matter.
Front and Back. Nice solo usage of the 5 Rpf stamp in a postcard without message to USA.

The rest of the items are Zusammendrucke ones. These combinations of stamps and labels (from booklet panes) are quite hard to find correctly used, since most usages are of philatelic origin and thus overfranked.

4) I showed this before. A "solo" 6 rpf + 4 rpf combination paying the correct postcard rate to Hungary in a reply half (Thanks Alec for the explanation). A pretty nice one in my opinion.

5) Another 6 rpf + 4 rpf combination, this time with a pair of 1 rpf Hindenburg to complete the domestic 12 rpf rate, and with the Special Wagner monument canceller.

6) This is a difficult one: 8 rpf + X + 8 rpf in a letter sent inside Berlin. This pays the double weight local letter rate. I don't know if it's philatelic or not but if the rate is right, it's OK for me.


Surprisingly I'm still missing the 25 rpf international letter rate, it's a quite common usage but no one has appeared yet... (well, I saw one but at 100 EUR so I decided to pass).
Posted by bjornmu   ( 999 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:46:29 PDT   Listings
That "visited link" colour change works for me on the search lists, but only if I vistied the item from that particular search list.
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:38:39 PDT   Listings
Some of those "enahncements" make it harder for buyers too. A**e
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:35:50 PDT   Listings
Another thing, I remember when ebay auction links showed a color change if you had viewed them, no matter how you searched. For a number of years that classic internet feature hasn't worked except on the individual page one is currently viewing. It seems that any listings update changes the page making one's browser think it is a new page and the links all revert to blue.

I'm so sad. It used to be easy. Now I'm getting old and eBay is becoming so cmoplicated I wonder if I'll be able to sell when I'm done with my collecting. Every enhancement sounds like additional complications for sellers. Ah, well. Guess I'll keep working for the rest of my life - NOT!
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:31:07 PDT   Listings
Bjorn -

I thought it would start remembering anew, but it doesn't );<)
I personally think the coding that causes the rating drop-down is the problem. Why not have the stars always present and click on little buttons? No need for fancy dropdowns. But I always forget eBay progrmmers have to "earn" their pay by making everything complicated.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:29:24 PDT   Listings
MNice Number There Bjornmu
Posted by bjornmu   ( 999 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:23:18 PDT   Listings
Roger, I'm almost certain that is a function of your browser recognizing the page and remembering what you've entered in that field before. I know Firefox does that. Maybe eBay has changed something so that the browser now has to start remembering again.
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:19:39 PDT   Listings
Interesting cover sent with short postage from Farouk's library to Leiden.
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:09:32 PDT   Listings
Jeff -
I have a Mac 10.3.9 and Safari 1.3.2, and it worked prior to the change. I guess MS programmers get bonuses for cutting out older systems and browsers. eBay programmers must have been fired by MS.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:09:09 PDT   Listings
Thnaks INFLA-Alec

What I thought collector thing

As I have real problems with Colour
especially RED I'll see if i have some to compare shade with.

My problem is I only collect on Card/cover so i sometimes
due to handling,age,sun,light in general
it is sometimes not unheard of to see 20 different shades.
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 247 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:08:51 PDT   Listings
Roger I noticed the same thing this morning. Guess I'll have to change my feedback to something short like 'done good'.
NOIP- Taxes are done and mailed off, YIIPPEE!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:04:50 PDT   Listings

Jay-Jim: and a couple of his companions.
formerly titled "What to do with old GI Joe Action Figures"

Posted by infla-alec   ( 592 ) on Mar-11-08 at 12:03:03 PDT   Listings
Due2cents The card meets no rate so I assume must be some sort of collectors production. The two left hand 10 Pfennig stamps though are if the cancel is genuine of greater value. Any used stamp from the Germania series with top margin , ("Oberrand" ) attached commands a premium. For eample a normal used 10Pf cats Michel €1,80 but with that type of Oberrand it jumps to €20 each. Further price differences are given for the six different colour variations of that particular stamp. Unfortunately I am not able to tell if you have one of the better colours.

NOIP May i suggest the time has come for ones to cease responding to posts made by any individual who they feel is delibrately trying to antagonise the board.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-11-08 at 11:59:04 PDT   Listings

'loha Roger - is that a function of the computer or browser? I couldn't do that on my Mac with Mozilla, but on my wife's HP on IE it dropped down like you say. Now on the new HP with VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVista and Firefox, that feature isn't there. It certainly was convenient with the drop down options.

Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-11-08 at 11:40:48 PDT   Listings
Has anyone else noticed that when leaving feedback on the new feedback pages one must type each entry individually. Before the change I had a number of different comments that I could enter. I typed the first letter into the box and a scroll down menu gave me a list of choice I'd used in the past. Now for some reason the code doesn't give that option. Use Stars, not words, must be eBay's internal motto. Indiviual customer service gets one step further removed, an advantage to those sellers who never leave feedback anyway!.

Roger
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-11-08 at 11:36:50 PDT   Listings
Jim

OK, now I'm following your advises
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 11:31:13 PDT   Listings
Sneeky

Here's one for you.


USSConn

showing the flag during the Mexican Rebellion

Just a few days before a couple of her sailors
we harrassed by the provisional Federalles
which almost lead to our 'Raising the Stars and Stripes over Mexico"

Tampico
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-11-08 at 11:24:12 PDT   Listings
here is that Beavis & Butthead episode.

Should be entertaining for our resident troll.
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-11-08 at 11:17:19 PDT   Listings
Aloha -

Pro -
Glad to read your card arrived. On the same note I received an item from Germany yesterday mailed 29 January - that's six (6) weeks! @@! Kowabunga, Jumpin Jjehosaphat.

There may be hope for the 5 mailings I never received from Switzerland last October and November.

Jeff -
Yawk, yawk, yawk. "Beavis "is a zero" when it comes to intelligence; indeed, Beavis is often oblivious to the obvious." And another attribution - "In the guise of Cornholio, Beavis has become a successful beat poet and been deported to Mexico after being picked up by an INS agent at Burger World." Some stories repeat, just the location changes.

Roger
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 247 ) on Mar-11-08 at 11:10:06 PDT   Listings
due2cents
Maybe one of these two will reappear.
Lynn
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-11-08 at 10:59:28 PDT   Listings

I shot waaaaay too high with my reference to Cervantes,
he hasn't made it past the Beavis & Butthead level

hee-hee, he said round hole. Get it? Round hole. hee-hee.

sheesh, so much for any supremacy of Russian intellectualism.

Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-11-08 at 10:58:01 PDT   Listings
Afternoon/evening/morning from a not quite springish NJ.

Dunc, Roger Thanks for the kind words of defense.

Just to clear the record, should it need to be cleared, I was not flaunting my credentials in my post, and I don't particularly care if they're dissed. What I do care about is the continual dissing of educators as a whole, which is what Afet did in the post I was responding to. It was not the first time nor the last time that he's made comments like this. But this will be the last time I respond to the provocation.

Some people thrive by creating discord. The best way to handle them is to ignore them.

Anne
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 10:01:04 PDT   Listings
Just got my election year bumper sticker

need to show your choice

Nice-Tandem
Posted by re1wind   ( 265 ) on Mar-11-08 at 09:22:29 PDT   Listings
As a casual observer of the board...a balcony sitter as it is, just wanted to say thanks to due2cents for trying to turn the topic back to stamps.

Hopefully the mother ship will return for Alex.
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 136 ) on Mar-11-08 at 09:10:28 PDT   Listings
"As to the 'double standard,' I can only repeat that I've never discussed, anywhere, a probabilistic approach applied to the mythical 'global warming.'"

Look. In the discussion of global warming you steadfastly refused to consider a probabilistic approach to the issue, instead insisting that others offer aboslute proof, a ridiculous position to take in the intellectual sense.

Now that it suits your purpose, you offer that exact line of discussion regarding beauty.

You can't have it both ways, that's applying a double standard, one for yourself and another for others. That's intellectually bogus.

If you want to discuss issues but steadfastly refuse to concede a point, the whole thing becomes a typical internet troll, just picking a fight for the enjoyment you gain from being disruptive.

I'd be interested in hearing what rules you might apply to an intellectual discussion - rules that apply equally to yourself as well as others - but until then, sorry, you indeed are functioning as a common troll.

Until you can learn to apply some self discipline in your discussions, they will continue to be a blight on this board. Now, again, what part of "double standard" do you not understand?

-Dunc
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 08:57:15 PDT   Listings
lluehhhb

No Stamp For Postage just the extra service
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 08:56:23 PDT   Listings
any German knowledge

on what this card might have been made for

Old+New-issues

just a philatelist?
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-11-08 at 08:46:01 PDT   Listings
Pro
Why it was charged 1c postage due?
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 08:27:43 PDT   Listings
last line is card link
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 08:26:54 PDT   Listings
OK

Let's blame it on "Global Warming" or "Spring Fever "
and move back towards filatelic themes


How about labels


or how about

A Special Delivery Postcard

sent my favorite way

and-a-stamp-usage-too

Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-11-08 at 08:05:12 PDT   Listings
Dearest Duncan,

It is clear now, what intellectual level meets your approval.

As to the "double standard," I can only repeat that I've never discussed, anywhere, a probabilistic approach applied to the mythical "global warming."

I complained once about Wikipedia admin publishing my private email without permission, yes.
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 136 ) on Mar-11-08 at 07:55:34 PDT   Listings
Hahahahaha.

Afeht, the "round hole" remark was pretty clever.

Unfortunately, it's the first good blow you've landed since you decided to enter this venue throwing punches. Congratulations, you've found your intellectual level.

Meanwhile, what part of "double standard" do you not understand? Google "Eliot Spitzer" to get a clue of what happens when someone chooses to live in a world where the rules are for others, not themselves.

Meanwhile, while you obviously fancy yourself as an intellectual, instead you continue to function as a common internet troll. That seems to be obvious to everybody here except yourself, to the delight of some observers.

Is it true that on another chat board, you actually complained to a man's boss about something that was said in chat?

Get a life, you're wasting your second chance.

-Dunc
Posted by sayasan   ( 751 ) on Mar-11-08 at 07:16:58 PDT   Listings
Alex. Still waiting to find out -

What version of the myth of the Golden Age do you subscribe to?P>Are you personally a Mozart or a Salieri?

Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-11-08 at 05:37:41 PDT   Listings
postalhysteria,

Your describing me as a "square peg," and yourself and your buddies as "round holes" was quite revealing. Slip of the tongue?

Moses
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-11-08 at 05:35:13 PDT   Listings

Chosen Dozen

Moses, is that you??

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-11-08 at 04:56:10 PDT   Listings

This whole thing with arsefit is like baiting a bear. And in the end the bear loses.

For a self-proclaimed genius it must have been ego-shattering for his mother country to allow his emigration to the Great Satan instead of hoarding his valuable talents for their own exploitation.

Then he gets shipped out to BF Colorado, guess all the prime locations for social malcontents in Idaho were already taken.

The picture of him holding a gun looks like a comic combination of Rasputin and Dom DeLuise, protecting Colorado from God-knows-what. I have a similar pic of me, but at 8 years of age holding a BB gun.

He riles against those with academic qualifications, and at 15 cents a word income, I can see his envy. 15 cents a word, must be like some Siberian prostitute charging 15 cents a stroke.


His political and socio-economic rants are about all he has to offer this board. In stamp collecting he has revealed he is too cheap to purchase the one book he needs. But in turn hoardes common GB definitives on Harco sheets like some refugee waif clutching at any pretty bits of ribbon or string.

But all-in-all I really get a kick out of him. Never, never have I seen such agony in a person being a square peg in a world of round holes, trying to convince all the round holes they are wrong.

His tilting at windmills is never ending, guess momma A****T read him Don Quixote a few too many times.

A*****T please DON'T go away, your entertainment value exceeds that of Archie Bunker from the 1970s.

I suppose this post will be deleted, what a coward that can dish it out but not take it.

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 04:43:44 PDT   Listings
ROGER

Thanks for the postage due card

It was in my mailbox yesterday
Postmarked the 2nd of Feb
in my mailbox march 10
must have taken the scenic route.

what do you expect for 41 cents
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-11-08 at 04:32:10 PDT   Listings

My personal record was 16 half-liter bottles of wine in one night

Guess there are all types of credentials?

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-11-08 at 04:24:10 PDT   Listings
D.F.T.T.
Posted by 22028   ( 1691 ) on Mar-11-08 at 04:12:11 PDT   Listings
lluehhhby, yes, most of the Iran collectors are outside Europe, at least then ones with money. They are mostly located either in USA or Iran itself...
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-11-08 at 03:51:37 PDT   Listings
Knud,

One of the most basic rules of polite conversation, accepted among intelligent and educated people all over the world, is not to try using academic credentials instead of an argument.

I've met many ignorant, deluded, misguided individuals who were "professors," and many experienced, rational, self-educated people who dropped out from colleges and universities because they couldn't force themselves to tell the lies required by their "professors." The state of American academia, especially in humanities, is such that the very word "professor" is discredited.

As to the "Jante Law" that you quoted, I would entitle it "A Perfect Guide to Being a Nobody." No wonder I never heard of Aksel Sandemose before. The other, really great Danish writer, H. C. Andersen, would call this philosophy "the Emperor's New Clothes."
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1489 ) on Mar-11-08 at 03:37:07 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.
member
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 586 ) on Mar-11-08 at 03:36:59 PDT   Listings
Well done, Rainer, nice additions to your collection I am sure.
Look forward to seeing them when you add them to your albums.
Linda
Posted by knuden   ( 2416 ) on Mar-11-08 at 03:27:13 PDT   Listings
afeht

I will ad that some (all?) of the rules could have been made of you.

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!


Posted by knuden   ( 2416 ) on Mar-11-08 at 03:18:56 PDT   Listings
afeth

Some of your comment to other writers of this board, reminds me of The Jante Law (named and described by the Danish author Aksel Sandemose in his novel A Fugitive Crosses his Tracks

The rules are:

1. Don't think that you are special.
2. Don't think that you are of the same standing as us.
3. Don't think that you are smarter than us.
4. Don't fancy yourself as being better than us.
5. Don't think that you know more than us.
6. Don't think that you are more important than us.
7. Don't think that you are good at anything.
8. Don't laugh at us.
9. Don't think that anyone cares about you.
10. Don't think that you can teach us anything.
11. Don't you think we know something about you?

K.E  I'm a catalog King, Expert and Philatelist - whoopee!!



Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-11-08 at 03:18:29 PDT   Listings
Rainer

That would imply that most Persia collectors are outside Europe?
Posted by 22028   ( 1691 ) on Mar-11-08 at 03:03:02 PDT   Listings
Talking about the Euro/US-$ rate.., thanks to that yesterdays competition at Heinrich Köhler auction in Germany was very little. i won some wonderful items at "reasonable" prices, including 2 nos. Iran Persia Lions, 1 Toman, the last 2 cliché types from that value I did not had yet, a wonderful 1 Kran unissued essay and a even more wonderful Tibet Waterlow essay in red/orange colour..., now my budget for the next few month is spent...
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-11-08 at 03:02:09 PDT   Listings
BTW -

If you asked me to name 100 top singers of the world, I doubt I would have ever thought of Barbara Streisand (no offense to those who like her singing).

One thing is clear, you are writing
_____________, and have been since you started posting on this Board. Give us a break and hassle others elsewhere.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-11-08 at 02:54:26 PDT   Listings
Afeht -
You must have your alarm clock set knowing I'd be checking in here after I got home from work.

Re: your post to me at 22:31:59 PDT.
I don't know what you are writing about. I don't believe I wrote anything about aesthetics of beauty in nature, or man, or whatevers.

It is really a "shame on you" for being so disrespectful to Anne who is a Past President of the Club. Her academic credentials have NEVER been questioned by anyone on this Chat Board and you most certainly aren't qualified to make any judgments on that topic. Her posts this week are welcome, yours are obnoxious. And for you to insult her her in such a manner in inexcusable.

You should do a little soul searching and try to determine why you are so angry at the world. Why do you find it necessary to insult others when you know nothing of their backgrounds? Your continual challenges certainly brings into question your sanity. No normal person would make it their daily "work" to spout off and act so arrogant in the face of repeated rejection. I know you don't have the ability to ignore this post, so have at me!

I'm going to ignore any other post you write on this Board and I hope others see fit to ignore you as well. So what is the sound of one hand clapping?

Roger
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-11-08 at 01:23:07 PDT   Listings
Dearest Duncan,

You are absolutely right, credentials mean nothing. Only reason, logic, and facts do.

As to my accomplishments, you don't have a clue about them -- exactly because I didn't "brag" about them here.

I never discussed an application of probabilistic approach to so called "global warming" on this or any other forum.

Is your hangover that bad today?
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 136 ) on Mar-11-08 at 01:13:05 PDT   Listings
Afeht, it's bad enough that you diss Anne, tossing aside her credentials as if they mean nothing, while you pompously brag of your own accomplishments - but now you have the audacity to spout off about "a probabilistic approach" after stubboornly refusing to accept the same approach when it comes to global warming???

Talk about a double standard.

I'd strongly suggest that you quietly slink away on the pompous ass you rode in on - since you have lost all credibility on this forum.

This ain't Oz and you are not a wizard, sorry to pop your bubble.

=Dunc
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 22:31:59 PDT   Listings
malolo,

Since you "made up your mind" before letting your opponent to say anything, and thus closed yourself to any kind of argument, you admitted your defeat by default.

Nevertheless, I will repeat for your education, belated as it may be:

A key to understanding the objectivity of beauty perception is a probabilistic approach. Every human being is a product of a certain cultural milieu; this milieu and its various influences can be objectively defined. There is much less variance in tastes and perceptions than people like to think. Commercial profilers know it and use it every day.

Show me a man who likes to listen to Britney Spears, and I will predict that this man is not a good chess player. Show me a man who likes Degas' paintings, and I will tell you that he is not a reliable investor. Show me a man who likes to psychoanalyze everybody around, and I will tell you that he will betray his wife and his children. Show me an engineer who can listen to Bach only with the drum machine on the background, and I can predict that this engineer is not to be trusted with any work requiring innovative, breakthrough technological solutions.

In short, individual perceptions of beauty are very stereotypical and predictable. Therefore, they can be objectively defined, classified, and valued.

QED: you're up to your ears in Barbara Streisand.
Posted by 22028   ( 1691 ) on Mar-10-08 at 21:23:38 PDT   Listings
I like the idea of David B. the the EUSC should try to influence ebay to implement a stamps watch community as it is done at ebay Germany and it is very effective there. Everyone know the special areas the members and some of them i feel really classify as "stamp watcher"...
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 20:52:16 PDT   Listings
David,

I am surprised it was just champagne. Usually in a Russian restaurant it would start, maybe, with champagne being drunk as if it were beer, and then the real thing begins, unavoidable vodka. A bottle of vodka after a bottle of wine per person in one evening is the most usual thing in Russia (I did that myself many times; my personal record was 16 half-liter bottles of wine in one night -- never again).

This is one part of Russian culture that I abandoned, and will never accept again. Now I drink a little (very little) when very tired, or twice as much (a glass or two) when an old friend comes for a visit (my friends are scattered all over the globe, and it is not often that they find time and opportunity to stop by in a remote mountain valley in Colorado.)

Bratsk ain't fun. Nothing to do there. Come to St. Petersburg in May-June, or in September (to avoid heat and group tourist crowds). Spend couple of weeks in Hermitage (Winter Palace and adjacent buildings) -- it's worth it! Food is very good around Nevsky Prospekt, and it's relatively safe if you use hired cars and taxis (I wouldn't use subway without local escort, though; anyone in Western garb may be robbed and knifed).

In Russian large cities, never go anywhere far from the downtown, the Brezhnev-era "rings" of multi-apartment complexes around the city are Hell on Earth (much worse than any dweller of Bronx or Newark can imagine, I am afraid).

Old St. Petersburg is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. And suburban palaces with parks (Peterhof, Oranienbaum, Tsarskoye Selo, Gatchina) are exquisite.
Posted by de66   ( 1218 ) on Mar-10-08 at 20:50:47 PDT   Listings
IO

I was hoping you would have explained my post of Mar-08-08 at 11:50:28 below

D1
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-10-08 at 20:45:55 PDT   Listings
IOMOON
Hi Jim has gotten warmer here on the Cape, good thing to, as our furance died Sat. afternoon, no repair man till this afternoon. Sure feels good having heat again, these ole bones don't like the cold.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-10-08 at 19:41:32 PDT   Listings
Alex,

I got stuck in Bratsk for almost a week in mid winter as the airport was closed and the tourists that were waiting for their flights were all placed in a hotel and we had nothing to do but drink and play scrabble.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-10-08 at 19:37:51 PDT   Listings
Alex,

when I was in Russia at any restaurant there seemed to be 2 bottles of Champagne per person,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-10-08 at 19:31:20 PDT   Listings
NOIP----Still working on China ,now convinced that a serious collector has to be able to read Chinese.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-10-08 at 19:16:19 PDT   Listings
ALEX Thats not the kind of fighting im interested in .Thats too easy when someone is fired up from drinking and thinks brute force can overpower a person.
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:56:05 PDT   Listings
due2cents: Yeah, I noticed that the cigarette revenue partially obscures the address. Alevizos has done his homework. He's got all the references down. It's an interesting item, but at that price I'll pass.

Nice censored cover. Presumably Barclays had a branch in Port Said?

I'm off for the night. I still have to finish an exam tonight so I can prep a lecture and grade some papers tomorrow. Yuck.

Goodnight to all and to all sweet dreams of censored covers, OS perfins, and pleasant conversation. Anne
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1489 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:54:32 PDT   Listings

Jim L.

member
Posted by poppadawg   ( 824 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:52:23 PDT   Listings
Thank you David. Now I guess I will be left to wonder about how it got used almost two years after. Oh well, another mystery to ponder. I won't stay awake over it.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:42:46 PDT   Listings
poppadawg,

it is most probably s.g. O114. After February 1933 all OS perfs. & overprints were discontinued and mail from Government departments was free but yours was used after that date most probably on non government mail or possibly just used by mistake,

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:42:29 PDT   Listings
Paul,

You can watch this kind of Karate (and participate in it, sometimes unwillingly) in most Russian not-for-tourists restaurants after 11 pm.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:37:45 PDT   Listings
EOSIN ?????? I fought one of those a few years ago .At a Karate tour. they matched me up with a "EOSIN belt" Thought he was some kind of KUNG-FU master with a red satin sash on his gi or uniform . He jumped around wavieing his arms and spinning his legs around like some nut job and screaming.After I got finish laughing ,I ran right straight into him pushing him into the front row of spectator chairs .After we both fell over the chairs and landed on the floor with spectators and chairs .I elbowed him in the face and cut it open and the judges disquailfied me ....o-well it was fun and worth the entrance fee. Thats all I know about a "EOSIN"
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:31:12 PDT   Listings
"obly"="only"
Posted by poppadawg   ( 824 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:26:27 PDT   Listings
Thank you Nomad. That is how I read it. Now the problem. This stamp is a perfined official. Gibbons says that it can only be O76 or O114. No other choices as I see it. The problem is that O114,according to Gibbons, only dates from 1929-1930. And apparently the use of perfined or overprinted officials ended in 1933. So what is the deal with the date?
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:25:30 PDT   Listings
WOW… Jeez, fourth place—not good.



Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:24:14 PDT   Listings
poppadawg… The cancel date/time is “3:30 pm 15 JA(NUARY) (19)35”.

Jim
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:22:48 PDT   Listings
3:20 pm 15 of JANUARY 1935-----maybe
Posted by nomad55   ( 966 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:22:12 PDT   Listings
3:30 PM, 15th of January 1935
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:22:09 PDT   Listings
Poppadawg

15 January 1935?
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:21:20 PDT   Listings
IMAGE-HERE
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:20:46 PDT   Listings
ANNE

I just added this Censored Egypt Cover to my WW2 box
Posted by poppadawg   ( 824 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:19:28 PDT   Listings
NOIP: Could someone decipher the postmark date on this Roo for me?
Posted by nomad55   ( 966 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:05:27 PDT   Listings
"ullshi"?
Back in the old country we used to call it Squamboli.

A slang term for:
The brown stuff that oozes up between your toes when walking barefoot through a cow pasture.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:03:45 PDT   Listings
Io… I think “ullshi” would make a very effective euphemism for the real thing.



Jim
Posted by nomad55   ( 966 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:02:06 PDT   Listings
Time for a good chuckle.

Here's today's Schmutz du Jour....

http://cgi.ebay.com/NICE-US-STAMP-330-SCV-150-00-MYLOT063-LOW-OPEN-BID_W0QQitemZ180222297617QQihZ008QQcategoryZ683QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-10-08 at 18:01:16 PDT   Listings
Alex, some of the worlds' leading experts on Roo's & KGV Heads frequent that board. They shoudl be able to answer any question you throw to them,

p.s. I attended an auction on Saturday and a way off centre KGV 1d. Eosin sold for A$1500 plus 10%,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:54:47 PDT   Listings
Jim

I think it was too long.
eBay only uses four ****'s, rather than the ullshi which actually has six.

I am really ill (with a cold, nothing serious) and going to bed early tonight.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:49:01 PDT   Listings
Io… “b******t”—is that a high bidder on eBay?



Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:43:18 PDT   Listings
Another erasable eBay one.

"Suffice it to say that one can arrive at this conclusion if one regards the humanity as a progressively evolving (and branching) organism going through successive stages of cultural development, nor as a dusty collection of museum pieces representing "equally valuable diverse cultures."

What total b******t.

Though one can argue that the anthropological or societal conceptualizion of beauty is a facet of cultural development one cannot deny that the acceptance of beauty is a personal criterion, therefore has no bearing whatsoever on what society deems as beautiful.

To add another quote "one mans meat is another mans poison".
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:32:09 PDT   Listings
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Just as I guessed, my penultimate post didn't last very long.

:-)

Still waiting on a subjective vs objective definition of beauty.

Not that I really care, since my mind is already made up.

Just so this one doesn't get erased.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:31:19 PDT   Listings

Here is a NEW to me Slogan Cancel from Canada
That I did not have in my box until yesterday.

1914=YearofPeace
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:23:17 PDT   Listings
Anne,

Not a "sense of insecurity" but insecurity per se.
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:21:25 PDT   Listings
David,

I bookmarked that "stampboard" link, thank you. Looks somewhat scary, "u-tubish." But who knows, maybe there are some knowledgeable philatelists there.
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:17:21 PDT   Listings
Oy vay. Deep sense of insecurity???? More likely deep sense of annoyance and an obvioulsy differing outlook on the world.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:14:05 PDT   Listings
I like how the Gig Stamp is over the address on that card ANNE

I see many similar type things at post card shows
I have one where some one added a Mattress Tax stamp (SC)
with the same hint of a cds on it.
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:13:39 PDT   Listings
Anne,

Your professional credentials don't give any weight to your opinions, not in my neck of the woods -- on the contrary, the fact that you felt it necessary to prop up your point of view by waving a diploma is an evidence of deep insecurity.

To make a long story short, there's often a possibility to define the perceived idea of "beauty" within the framework of a certain culture and a certain epoch. Contrary to the trite mantra of the most modern anthropology professors, different cultures are NOT equal in any reapect (there are higher cultures yielding objectively richer, freer, and easier life, and lower cultures making life poorer and more difficult, socialist politically correct culture being one of the latter). Therefore, an hierarchy of cultures produces an hierarchy of perceived ideas of "beauty." This, of course, is an oversimplified generalization that would require many pages of qualifications. Suffice it to say that one can arrive at this conclusion if one regards the humanity as a progressively evolving (and branching) organism going through successive stages of cultural development, nor as a dusty collection of museum pieces representing "equally valuable diverse cultures."
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:10:50 PDT   Listings
I've seen some strange fantasy covers, but I've never seen this before.

Io: You mean we're not the same person?

Anne
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:06:36 PDT   Listings
I have a feeling my last post might not last very long.

Hi Sneeky, got so engaged in this stupid discussion, forgot to say hello.

Hope it's gotten warmer over on the Cape.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-10-08 at 17:03:51 PDT   Listings
Alex,

re the Russia,

the key to that realisation is the 3 letters, MNH, lhm. or cto are common but MNH are evry difficult to find and hence the realsiation,

If you ahve questions on Kangaroos or KGV Heads, you shoudl ask them here,

http://www.stampboards.com/

There are many specialists who frequent that chat and they can answer the questions on Roos & KGV Heads much better than me as it is not my field,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-10-08 at 16:57:44 PDT   Listings
Alex,

BW is only the start, if you can get hold of the specialist magazines or articles you will find many more shades listed.

I have never been fond of catalogued shade variations with price variations but that is up to the collector if he wants to worry about them or concentrate on shades that have been allocated to various printings.

Two aspects you have to think of is that the 1d. Roo was only in use for a short time whilst the 2d. was in use for decades with various watermarks. The other aspect is that ink was in short supply in Australia during WWI as there were no deliveries from Germany which was the main supplier and the printers used whatever was available including mixtures of ink to keep up supply.

To me the plate variations including varieties and Die types are much more important than shades which most probably look nothing like when they were printed especially used.

David B.
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 16:56:25 PDT   Listings
"a trite" = "a trite expression"

Thank you, jaywild, for keeping an eye on my English. Next time you make an error in Russian, I'll pay my debt with interest.
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-10-08 at 16:56:10 PDT   Listings
Alex, no you didn't lose me; I chose not to answer. BTW, you're talking to a professor of anthropology. I don't tell my students "trites," but I do tell them that people from different cultures see things differently. In my field, beauty, truth, value, etc. etc. are very much related to the beholder's worldview.
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 16:52:52 PDT   Listings
Re: Russian stamps from 1930s

I am stunned by the prices they pay nowadays for pre-1950 Soviet stuff. Take this item, for example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Russia-1938-Sc-666-677-Mi-625-36-Crimeans-views-MNH_W0QQitemZ330218303244QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3495QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's incredible, and the price will probably go even higher in remaining time! 20 years ago nobody would look twice at this set, it was in every stockbook. What is happening?
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 16:49:29 PDT   Listings
Hmmm… I wonder what “a trite” is…

Jim
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 16:41:38 PDT   Listings
Anne,

I know I lost you on that one. "Beauty is a subjective quality" is a trite that professors tell students in colleges. Ubiquitousness of the conventional wisdom doesn't make it true.

David,

I presume you have large experience with Australian Roos.

Brusden and White catalog lists many shades of every Roo. For 2d gray Roos they list "black gray," "gray," "silver gray," "pale gray," "slate gray," and "bluish gray" (all valued equally, which is in itself suspicious). I have about 60 copies of the 2d Roo, most of them with the 1st or 3rd watermark (only one copy with the 2nd watermark) -- and all of them look PLAIN BLOODY GRAY to me. Am I gray-color blind, or there is something fishy about so many shades listed?

Browsing through hundreds of 1d red Roos, I also didn't observe as many shades as listed in B&W, though in the case of 1d there is, at least, a real difference between pinky reds and reds, though I am not sure what they call "deep red," because there seem to be a continuous spectrum of all gradations of "deepness," from pale to saturated red.

In the past, Michel used to list many more color varieties of definitive Germania stamps but a substantial amount of these shades dropped out from their catalog lately -- and correctly so, because in many cases there was obviously a continuous scale of all possible gradations from one "shade" to another. Can it be that B&W is carried away about Roo shades the same way as Michel was carried away with Germanias?
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 16:24:56 PDT   Listings
Io… How about Antarctican?

Jim
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 85 ) on Mar-10-08 at 15:55:16 PDT   Listings
David I am certainly not an expert on those but one look at the second one was enough to have me rolling. Agreed it is stupid on the part of the bidders, but what was the seller doing trying to describe it as BPO Siam with "unidentified" overprint with Singapore CDS. Probably confused and thinks Sing was part of Thailand!
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-10-08 at 15:37:57 PDT   Listings
Greenwave, if it was not serious it would be laughable.

The extra problem with those is that they were listed on the UK site. I didn't notice them until after they were sold as I was checking the seller's other lots to find out the realisation of an itemn which was perfectly OK.

The 2nd. lot is a beauty, rubber handstamp in extra large type with a clear SINGAPORE cds. must go into the Ebay records for stupidity on behalf of buyer and seller,

By coincidence there was a display last week of B overprints at a local club and I had a close look to check them and noticed one that was doubtful. I asked the owner and he said that he was also doubtful about it.

David B.

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-10-08 at 15:15:44 PDT   Listings
Peter

I can probably also handle Lundyian.

Jeff

Tex-Mex restaurantian I can handle whenever I have sufficient money that I can eat out (not often).

Alex

""Beauty is in the eye of beholder" is the way it is worded, actually. Objectively, it is a lie"

You completely lost me on that one.
Beauty is a subjective quality, so how can it be an objective lie?
Posted by sneeky37   ( 237 ) on Mar-10-08 at 15:07:57 PDT   Listings
A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL!!
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-10-08 at 15:05:45 PDT   Listings
cech74 -
I can't help myself. I sometimes use different words (colourings) when writing. Comes from being intiiated into the English language in England, then moving to America as a10 year-old and having to simplify all the difficult words I had previously learned to spell. The first words added to my new vocabulary were all Spanish because my family moved to West Los Angeles where most of the major roads have old Spanish names. Then it was learning La Jolla, Cabrillo Beach, and Paso Robles. Then learning how to pronounce Sequoia and Yosemite, etc. Let's see where was I? I have to admit I've rowed a dory, but don't consider myself a honky.

Roger
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 14:53:49 PDT   Listings
Anne,

I didn't say that all modern issues are wallpaper. Most of them are. Some are beautiful.

I didn't quote you, I quoted the usual trite that you modified. "Beauty is in the eye of beholder" is the way it is worded, actually. Objectively, it is a lie -- but this is a long and tedious topic to discuss.

jaywild,,

I think I could find a common language with a few people here, and to discuss with them things that interest me. Obviously, you are not one of these people.

Your incessant flaming is in vain: we have nothing in common, and your opinions don't matter to me any more than a mosquito's buzz. It is quite surprising, though, how long it takes for you to understand that you are incapable of hurting me, no matter how hard you try. Find some useful occupation, get a life.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-10-08 at 14:53:16 PDT   Listings

Tex-Mexian-restaurantian?

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 85 ) on Mar-10-08 at 14:50:50 PDT   Listings
Jim What no Alderneyian, Hermian and Sarkian:-)
D2 Thanks for the laugh on those Bangkok overprints:-)

cheers


Peter


Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-10-08 at 14:38:22 PDT   Listings
Jeff

Nope.

Though I am quite good at Brooklynian and Long Islandian, never quite conquered Bronxian.

Looks like I missed Tristan da Cunhian.

I can read a few other languages (with difficulty).
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-10-08 at 14:32:05 PDT   Listings
jaywild: Thanks.

alex: Um, I didn't say "Truth is in the eye of the beholder." I said "Talent and value are often in the eye of the beholder." At least get the quotes right. The fact that a saying becomes cliched is often a sign of its validity. What is ugly to you, may not be ugly to me, and vice versa. To label all modern issues as "wallpaper" overstates your case.

Anne
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 586 ) on Mar-10-08 at 14:24:48 PDT   Listings
Oh I notice you don't speak Norfolk Islandian Jim, which is understandable, when I was there it was almost impossible to understand the locals! L.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-10-08 at 14:21:00 PDT   Listings

IO - no Tex-Mexian?

Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-10-08 at 14:11:49 PDT   Listings
This is getting to be silly, so I'll increase the silliness.

I can officially state that I am fluently proficient in the following languages (looks good on job applications, when you're not getting close to retirement)

Anguillan
Antiguan and Barbudan
Australian
Bahamanian
Barbadosian
Bermudan
Belizian
British Indian Ocean Territorian
British Virgin Islandian
Canadian
Caymanian
Falkland Islandian
Gibraltarian
Grenadian
Guamian
Guernseyan
Guyanaian
Hiberno-English
Manx English
Jamaican English
Jerseyan
Montserratian
Nauruian
New Zealand English
Pitcairnian
Saint Helenian
Saint Kittian
Nevisian
Saint Vincent and the Grenadinian
South Georgian
South Sandwichian
Trinidad and Tobagoian
Turks and Caicosian
United Kingdomian
Virgin Islandian
United Stateian

:-)
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 586 ) on Mar-10-08 at 14:02:37 PDT   Listings
BOOKMARK
Posted by cech74   ( 94 ) on Mar-10-08 at 13:41:17 PDT   Listings
OLE!
MALOLO!

Careful, most honkies dont want to know
what a 'hunkie' would want with a dory?

A 'hunkie' would take up with a 'Dorrie'
but, not with a dory.

thank you,
a hunkie honkie Dorrie grabing doryman.
Posted by 220man   ( 171 ) on Mar-10-08 at 13:29:32 PDT   Listings
Bookmark
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 13:29:22 PDT   Listings
A-F… A little humility goes a long way. Your mentioning Salieri and Mozart this morning suggests you perceive more genius in your makeup than others are willing to credit you with. (No one this side of the moon has any doubt which of the two you see yourself as.) It’s not the first grandiose sentiment you have expressed here, and it’s having the opposite effect on your image from the one you intend.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 13:09:52 PDT   Listings
Anne… “Just call him John.” You have set the standard for today’s funniest line.



D2... Very good point. Also, I’m not a member of EUSC, but I enthusiastically endorse Milenko (lluehhhb) for the post of president.

Jim
Posted by philaweb   ( 361 ) on Mar-10-08 at 13:09:01 PDT   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!

Who left the monkey cage unlocked? There are banana peels and doodoo all over the board.

Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 13:00:46 PDT   Listings
sayasan,

I readily admit that I am much less equal than you in every conceivable respect.

abt,

Re: "Truth is in the eye of beholder."

Certainly. The only problem is, this phrase has been used and abused to justify all kinds of mediocrity and outright ugliness for decades. Meanwhile, modern stamps deserved a nickname among sensible people. Wallpaper.

Jaywild,

Thank you for correcting my English. I appreciate the loving, passionate attention you pay to every word of mine. Would you consider working for me as an editor, for a small fee? It hurts me to see you doing all this painstaking work for nothing. A lollypop per sentence, perhaps?
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 12:45:46 PDT   Listings
sayasan… He is neither Mozart nor Salieri, but Ted Kaczynski.



Speaking of which, a few other remarks are perhaps in order.

When someone sets himself up as a paragon of language skills, it seems to me he is fair game for lampoons directed at his mistakes.

“Waxing poetic” is what’s known as a cliché, and what’s worse it’s one from the era of high-button shoes and lorgnettes. One can’t expect to be taken seriously expressing himself that way.

“Sometime in the 1930s character and purpose of stamp design…” This requires a definite article before character (“the character”); without it the writer sounds like Boris Badenov. Ditto for “…producing unsettling, threatening impression” except in this case the indefinite article is called for before unsettling (“an unsettling”).

“Stamps has become a tool…” Stamps have is the proper subject/verb agreement here. Go back to English 101, go directly to English 101, do not pass go, do not collect $200.



“Their design is unimpressive, often lacking any talent.” The writer has made a hash of the referent in this sentence—a design cannot have talent: the artist can have talent, the design can reflect talent, however talent is not a quality that can be attributed to a design.

I am completely at sea over what is meant by “denigrating cultural and factual substance”. This sounds suspiciously like the product of mindless dictionary riffling.

“Yes, there has been an impressive progress…” Here the indefinite article has no place. It is progress, not a progress. Boris Badenov again, sorry.

“…they are boring and tedious in their multicolored impersonality.” Boring and tedious mean the same thing, so together they are a tautology, one of the worst sins of writing. Editors leap upon them with burning eyes and dripping fangs. There is no surer way to flip-through/yawn/dumpster-toss obscurity than shoveling unnecessary words into your writing. The more goop you pile on, the more your work will resemble Miss Havisham’s wedding cake.

And Mitch, I say go ahead and speak your mind.

Jim
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 12:41:33 PDT   Listings
Roger,

Just listen to yourself:

I make comments when appropriate... I guess I wrote too poetic for you... This Board is a meeting place in the ether which many collectors visit. There is no need for anyone to join the eBay Users' Stamp Club. But, if a circumstance raises its ugly head... I don't consider the club useless at all. Let's just say the Board is a "Bookmark" for many people... I fully understand the difference between the Board and the Club...


Do you, really? How much beer did you have on the beach before scribbling that nonsense?
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-10-08 at 12:31:48 PDT   Listings
briguy: Just call him John.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3944 ) on Mar-10-08 at 12:30:24 PDT   Listings

jsbmsma - since you mentioned them, looks rather ordinary and overpriced to me.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-10-08 at 12:27:44 PDT   Listings
fake B overprints,

I don't know who was more foolish, the seller, bidders or buyer,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=263&item=290208639915

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=263&item=290208639941

David B.
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:49:55 PDT   Listings
EUSC needs to elect a new leader?

Hmmmm, something tells me Eliott Spitzer, the pompus pinhead Governor of New York, ....is going to have lots off free time soon.

That assumes of course, they let him have internet access at club Fed.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8937 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:41:06 PDT   Listings
re the EUSC,

Current or incoming President, soon the relationship between Ebay and the APS will come to an end and an approach to Ebay should be made by the President asking if the EUSC could help by recommending specialists in various fields to work with Ebay to discern material which shouldn't be allowed to be sold similarly to the way that Ebay Germany works with a group of specialists,

David B.
Posted by jsbmsma   ( 8651 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:40:31 PDT   Listings
Good Afternoon from upstate New York - not even 1/10 into the first box...pull out stuff I havent seen in 20 years.
Listed some advertising covers,first day covers and esoterica - tonight a few more along with some Florida postcards - this should keep me busy for the rest of the month - Happy Collecting!
Posted by wrd3   ( 104 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:37:34 PDT   Listings
antonius-ra act presidential .... don't feed the trolls.

Bill D.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 350 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:28:37 PDT   Listings
c'mon Mitch, as El Presidente you can say what you want.
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:22:52 PDT   Listings
Mitch: Go for it.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 674 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:21:01 PDT   Listings
Gawd, my tongue hurts!
Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I, Should I or shouldn't I.

I just dunno, perhaps I should?
Posted by spain_1850   ( 370 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:20:18 PDT   Listings
Jim, thanks! Off to work now.
Posted by jimbo   ( 431 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:12:37 PDT   Listings
My plans for this weekend (March 15 and 16) are to help with the Naplex Stamp Show held by the Collier County Stamp Club in Naples, Florida. I think it's something like the 34th consecutive show held by the club and remains one of the few self-sustaining US stamp shows held without World Series of Philately designation. You can find more information here: Naplex 08.

This year the show will celebrate the 65th anniversary of Naples Airport. The airport was built as an auxiliary in support of Page Field in Fort Myers during World War II. It provided a base for the target towing airplanes training the turret gunnery trainees out of Page Field. Its three letter designation was (and still is) PFA for Page Field Auxiliary.

You're all invited to take a weekend away from cold weather and join us in our subtropical paradise. If any of you do come, ask for Jim or Jimbo and I'll provide a free lunch! Y'all come! Heah?

jimbo

PS: Roger, Well said!
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-10-08 at 11:09:56 PDT   Listings
Alex -
I make comments when appropriate. Last night you could have seen me in all my glory if you had looked outside. I was waxing eloquently.

I guess I wrote too poetic for you. I should have been more politically motivated and mentioned a few "fascist/socialist/collectivist" eBay directives which were imposed on this Chat Board. Threats meant to stifle the independence of collectors in a free thinking community. "Pink Liners" who frequented the Board spouting corporate policies which were routinely ignored by the masses.

This Board is a meeting place in the ether which many collectors visit. There is no need for anyone to join the eBay Users' Stamp Club. But, if a circumstance raises its ugly head we already have club officers who can either bring our point of view to the attention of APS ( the club is APS Chapter
#1522-191441), or sometimes to eBay during one of its Community Discussions. I don't consider the club useless at all. Let's just say the Board is a "Bookmark" for many people. I must say there are no other sites I visit as frequenly as this one. Why, because the discussions are usually very interesting (better than newspaper editorial pages or Fox news broadcasts) and written by intelligent people. I hate to think what would happen if everyone here one day agreed on something important and became politically together. Meanwhile back on the beach.......... counting grains of sand. My goal is to determine how many there are per cubic mile of shoreline on the Island of Hawaii. Some here already know the answer.

BTW - I fully understand the difference between the Board and the Club.

Jaywild -
I don't do cars, too many windows.

Roger
Posted by abt1950   ( 231 ) on Mar-10-08 at 10:57:55 PDT   Listings
b>Afternoon/evening/morning from a dry and sunny NJ

Roger: another bravo from this quarter. It's true that the stamp chat board and the EUSC are not identical, but the overlap is substantial. The creation of the club allowed us to speak with a more unified voice when necessary.

briguy: What makes you think I don't collect cancels too? On the first issue, blue ink or red ink can tell you where the stamp was cancelled, even if the rest of the cancel isn't there. Don't get me started on the retta or I will start screaming again.

Actually, cancel collecting on the first issue is relatively easy. Only a couple of kinds were used. Rettas were only used for a short time. On most stamps, there's only part of a CDS and you probably can't read it. And you can't afford the covers.

Alex: IMHO, what you say about stamp designs is partially, but not completely correct. Yes, there's a lot of trash out there, especially coming from countries that view stamp sales as a source of income.

Stamp designs have always reflected the artistic trends of the times during which they were issued. They have also always reflected social values, whether those values be the identification of a country with a hereditary ruler or a coat of arms, or the celebration of a cultural heritage or an event. The fact that some of what is being celebrated today is not as important as it should be does not negate the fact that some of it is. Nor do changing artistic styles necessarily mean poorly designed stamps. I've seen a lot of poorly designed classic stamps.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "personal"--it's hard to think of any mass-produced design on paper as being "personal." But I do think that there's a difference between a blanket condemnation of soemthing and a statement that it is not to your taste. Talent and value are often in the eye of the beholder.

Anne
Posted by sayasan   ( 751 ) on Mar-10-08 at 10:52:36 PDT   Listings
By the way, Alex, which are you - a Mozart or a Salieri?
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Posted by iomoon   ( 1063 ) on Mar-10-08 at 10:52:18 PDT   Listings
Richard

prices are same in Scott 2007 except for #2 which has gone up to $260 or $275 on thin paper.
Posted by sayasan   ( 751 ) on Mar-10-08 at 10:41:00 PDT   Listings
"During the same time, however, there has been a steady regress, a degradation of human spirit, culture, individual skills and tastes. Talented artists either don't get any access to stamp design contracts any more, or are lost in the ocean of mediocrity prevailing in every region and in every public institution."

Yep, everyone's out of step except our Willie ...

Thank goodness that in the midst of this ocean of mediocrity, there remain a few brave individuals of unusual perspicacity who can point out to us, with a clear trumpet-like voice, the universal degradation that surrounds us. We need such arbiters of taste more than ever before as we plummet into the new barbarism.

Which particular version of the myth of the Golden Age did you have in mind?

Posted by spain_1850   ( 370 ) on Mar-10-08 at 10:33:45 PDT   Listings
revenue-bc

Thanks a bunch.

I haven't looked at a newer, or current, Scott cat. in years. Have the prices in general been going up, maintaining or going down?

I just ordered a CD version of the 2008 Scott Classic Specialized. Hopefully it'll get here pretty quick and I won't have to post too many of these "how much do these catalog for" questions.
Posted by revenue-bc-2*   ( 242 ) on Mar-10-08 at 10:10:19 PDT   Listings
Spain (2005 Scott Catalogue)
# 2- used $240.00
# 229 MINT $47.50
# 230 MINT $125.00
#176 A MINT $27.50
Posted by 220man   ( 171 ) on Mar-10-08 at 09:56:25 PDT   Listings
All: According to my IE Mjstano's links go to a reported phishing site.

Phil
Posted by 1-outlaw   ( 247 ) on Mar-10-08 at 09:49:34 PDT   Listings
mjstano

Why are you posting messages loaded with potential threatening material?

That is not very nice!!

You are spamming all the chats with that crap!!!!


Posted by dragonstamps   ( 498 ) on Mar-10-08 at 08:24:52 PDT   Listings
To simplify what I mean is:....

USA is basically an economy based largely on the price of oil. I was taught this 30 years ago, and it seems to be the case. You can set your watch by it.
If you want to weaken the dollar, you're bound to raise the price of oil. And that's exactly what's happened?
So, wouldn't weakening the dollar be extremely foolish? Of course it is, but I guess it's only my opinion...
But maybe we should have people running the economy who understand these things?
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 498 ) on Mar-10-08 at 08:15:21 PDT   Listings
A falling dollar is bad.
I've heard it's good in some ways.
It isn't. It's bad. We only have another 10 months or so of the people who think it's ok. Hopefully?
Btw, it's not a republican/democrat issue. Some in either party think it's good/bad.
Lloyd Bentsen thought it was a good idea to weaken the dollar when he was in the Clinton cabinet, and it got him fired by Bill Clinton. If I recall correctly.

Now if the dollar is at low point and people believe that it is climbing, or will climb... Now that's a lot better.

Thinking positive about a weak dollar is about the same as being happy about having plenty of water if your house is on fire.


Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 07:57:25 PDT   Listings
Re: Weak U.S. Dollar
I don't know if a weak dollar is good or bad for me, personally. Most probably, it's good for some people, and bad for others. An American company exporting explosion-proof valves to Russian oil producers is having a happy time. An American company peddling European cruise trips to middle-class couples is running in circles, screaming and shouting.

As several articles in The Wall Street Journal point out, weak dollar is good for the U.S. deficit reduction, which, in turn, would later attract foreign investors back to the U.S. securities and funds, gradually correcting the current imbalance during the summer.

But what does it mean to us stamp collectors? Will Scott values jump 150% or 200% up next year? Should I assume that Australian stamp values in Brusden and White are as if they are in U.S. dollars, because Australian dollar is almost on par with the American currency? Will Stanley Gibbons finally drop their ridiculous prices 300% to get a bit closer to reality?

It seems that stamp catalog editors are mostly catering to the dealers' crowd, using every opportunity to push catalog values up, while resisting the downward pressure.

It kind of worked before, in the age of brick-and-mortar philatelic auctions and uninformed novices. With the advance of eBay and other web-based philatelic sites, the era of robbing collectors blind is gone. Catalogs are completely out of touch with reality. When are they going to list real stamp prices, that is, prices of stamps in their most common collectible condition?
Posted by spain_1850   ( 370 ) on Mar-10-08 at 07:55:54 PDT   Listings
A little help?
If anyone has a current Scott cat. handy, could I get the values on the following stamps?

Spain:
#2 - used
#229 - unused
#230 - unused
#176a - unused
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1489 ) on Mar-10-08 at 07:11:47 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


Jim L.

member
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 06:44:12 PDT   Listings
Roger… When you’re done waxing poetic, please go out and wax the car…

Jim
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 06:34:03 PDT   Listings
On the other subject:

Stamps reflect a character of the time and of the nation. Most classical stamps produce a friendly feeling of humane, more or less rational intentions, their design, even if imperfect, is tasteful and careful, their subjects either neutral (coats of arms, monarchs, presidents) or educational (views and landmarks, historical events and national cultural heritage).

Sometime in the 1930s character and purpose of stamp designs started to change drastically. In fascist/socialist/collectivist countries, colors became dreary, darkish (especially in Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia), stamp subjects became more and more symbolic, rough, inhumane, even aggressive, producing unsettling, threatening impression. Stamps has become a tool of the government propaganda.

Modern stamps are impersonal. Their design is usually unimpressive, often lacking any talent. Their colors are uniformly loud, promoting their inane message in tasteless, "in your face" fashion. The basis of their designs consists of either impersonally exact photographic images or schematic socialist symbols, denigrating cultural and factual substance.

Yes, there has been an impressive progress in technology, printing art, etc., since the 1950s. During the same time, however, there has been a steady regress, a degradation of human spirit, culture, individual skills and tastes. Talented artists either don't get any access to stamp design contracts any more, or are lost in the ocean of mediocrity prevailing in every region and in every public institution.

That's why I don't collect modern stamps: they are not only culturally incompatible with me, they are boring and tedious in their multicolored impersonality.
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 06:09:52 PDT   Listings
Roger,

Your longish message is logically tangled, unclear in its priorities and purpose, waxing poetic about very prosaic things, and... completely misses my point, intentionally or not.

My point was that this board is not the EUSC, and the UESC is not this board. Please, do not mix these two separate entities. This board is useful and informative. The eBay Users' Stamp Club is currently useless.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1058 ) on Mar-10-08 at 05:25:48 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Three cheers for the sensible voice of Roger Heath, the Helvetian Hawaiian!!

Jim
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 247 ) on Mar-10-08 at 04:56:22 PDT   Listings
Roger
A very loud BRAVO! from the cheap seats.
Very well said.
Lynn
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-10-08 at 04:05:26 PDT   Listings
Alex -
This Board existed before the Club. I believe the Club came about for the purpose of voicing a group opinion to eBay and other philatelic groups that something was wrong in the Stamps Auction Category. It also provided, as Sneeky mentioned below, a venue for launching charity auctions before they bcame scams and were absorbed by eBay and its rules makers.

It was recognized early on that everyone here did not live in the United States, and that our common ground was collecting and voicing opinions. Many times I commented that this Board seems like a club house where desks are all around the walls and collectors are working at their desks without looking at each other. On a continual basis comments are voiced aloud to which responses are either made modestly or loudly, or the comments are ignored completely. Every once in a while two collectors turn around and face off to the amusment of the others, who continue working on their collections blocking out any disagreable comments. If other wish to add to the discussion or change the topic, they may. If they wish to keep quiet, they do. The bottom line is that this room has unimited wall space, and the topics are determined by those present. The advantage is that at any given time someone with reference material is available to help those who don't have the references. Multiple eyes are an advantage in "seeing" questionable eBay auctions and reporting them here. The disadvantages of this Board is the scrolling off of the 200 posts, and sometimes there are those who are always facing the center of the room talking, instead of working on their stamps!

In my opinion anyone writing on this chat should be actively engaged in collecting and gradually refining their area of interest. Newbies are welcome and we've had many stop by, some stay, some move on. The nucleus has been here for many years and some of us have met other members at stamp shows or visited their homes. This is the greatness of the eBay Users' Club. People actually want to see other members, but usually the distances prohibit more than a few meetings in anyone's liftime.

I'll bet there are few Clubs in the world that has the international input found on a daily basis that can be found here. And we don't require membership to participate, except in our annual election of officers. So if anyone wishes to join the Club and lend their names officially to this loose group of grumpy stamp curmugeons ,go to the Yellow Boxes and join. This is a good month as you will get to vote. );>)

Roger
Posted by afeht   ( 1277 ) on Mar-10-08 at 02:42:45 PDT   Listings
I don't see any logic in making this board, which is useful in all ways that Paul described, and doesn't require any membership in any clubs, equal to the EUSC club, which is not this board, and has only superficial relation to it.


As to the continuing untrue remarks about "receiving charity" from a person who is hiding his identity, and thus cannot be made responsible for his personal attacks, I can only shrug. On this board, as anywhere in our modern society, Salieris are always more equal than Mozarts. That's why there are no Mozarts any more.
Posted by malolo   ( 883 ) on Mar-10-08 at 02:35:42 PDT   Listings
Brian -

That was actually a pretty good scan. I've been researching scans on eBay and have discovered that if I remove my glasses to look at the "worst" scans, they are actually sharp! I don't know how to explain it but without my glasses they appear fine enough to see plate scratches, etc. It's sort of like the Hubble phenomenon when it first went aloft, couldn't see squat, but then after a lens adjustment, everything is honkey dory. My recommendation is to buy that stamp. It looks like an R3D2 from the Richmond Second Printing of Plate17.

Roger
PS: You never came to Hawaii to work as my beach boy, and I don't give a mahalo about chipping a hole in ice to scare fish. I guess we weren't made for each other after all. LOL