eBay chatboard archive: Oct-29-07 to Nov-04-07 week

Posted by dbenson   ( 8671 ) on Nov-04-07 at 22:46:32 PST   Listings
Paul,

regarding your comment,

" grown adult collectors with experience would fall for the over-hype descriptions of sellers on e-bay who cleary are selling crap ".

One of the major buyers has admitted buying over 2000 Pounds a week for obver a year and he now instigating a criminal action against the seller.

There have been numerous complaints to Ebay about the forged Crimean War cancels an dotehr material that is being sold however they continue to be made, listed and sold, in that order.

There is no use blaming the buyers, it is the seller and Ebay (and the SCW) that are responsible for the buyers loss.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8671 ) on Nov-04-07 at 22:35:37 PST   Listings
Jay, and don't forget Addie, the 3 of them can reminisce,

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1014 ) on Nov-04-07 at 21:54:42 PST   Listings
David B… Maybe he can retire to Florida and buy a condo next to his pal the paver…

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8671 ) on Nov-04-07 at 21:42:43 PST   Listings
Jim,

that seller has been reported many times to Ebay and directly to the APS coordinator but still continues to list his blatantly forged cancels. As mentioned his sales have run into the $100,000's and he looks like he will be able to retire on his ill gotten gains,

David B.
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-04-07 at 21:33:19 PST   Listings
Good Morning! Re. Forgeries and crap lots on eBay: I have given several presentations about how to detect forgeries on the internet, or rather how to get the most information out of a scan. My impression is, that many collectors cannot translate the information given in a catalogue to what they see on the screen. That´s where we have to start.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-04-07 at 20:32:12 PST   Listings
Jim

My deal was on Continental, but I'm sure you can probably get a better deal on SW.

DJS

I have to admit, I'm getting a little tired of your blatant advertizing on this board and VSC, but seeing as neither seem to want to penalize you, keep at it.

It is not making you many friends.
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-04-07 at 20:03:11 PST   Listings
Talking about fight against fake stamps on ebay..., since a few weeks i work with APS to fight against forgeries on ebay.com and my area is Tibet. Several items have been pulled already but not as many as i wanted since rules in USA are much tighter then in Germany where it only takes a mail to one guy (a regular poster here) and the item will be pulled. Now i notice a move from ebay.com to to ebay.co.uk as there is no "pulling policy" in place.
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Nov-04-07 at 19:51:39 PST   Listings
Any users having a problem viewing pictures they have uploaded to COMCAST?
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Nov-04-07 at 19:47:23 PST   Listings
leinieboy1 Go to your Public libray and ask for a Scott stamp Catalog. And Read the FIRST 30 -40 pages It will give you loads of information you will be needing.
Also, if you scroll down on this page, you will come across a big YELLOW BOX. There you will find more information about stamps than you cam shake a stick at!
Posted by leinieboy1   ( 204 ) on Nov-04-07 at 19:36:54 PST   Listings
Hello all, Question if I may. I am thinking of expanding my collecting intrest into stamp. {no I have'nt bought any yet lol] what referece's would be good for a newbie into the hobby. I know a Scott's will be on the list, but will this give me the grading basic knowledge for collecting? In coins there the ANA grading standards. Does stamps have something similar? or is it the all in the Scott's? any and all response's are appreciated. TIA Leinie
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1419 ) on Nov-04-07 at 19:27:49 PST   Listings
Jim L.

member
Posted by jaywild   ( 1014 ) on Nov-04-07 at 18:21:00 PST   Listings
Io… Which airline? I’m going back to Arizona in January, maybe they’ll have a deal for me too.

Jim
Posted by djs127   ( 621 ) on Nov-04-07 at 17:54:45 PST   Listings
Spent much of the afternoon and evening scanning in stamps, sheets, and some supplies for more EBay lots. But since I will be on a business trip next Sunday/Monday I will upload them Monday night so they will close around the time I get home next week.
I normally close my auctions on Sunday at 10PM Eastern time - when do other's close theirs and does it make any difference?
David Snyder
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-04-07 at 17:48:33 PST   Listings
NOIP------What amazes me about the postings of today is why grown adult collectors with experience would fall for the over-hype descriptions of sellers on e-bay who cleary are selling crap ,maybe were dealing with people who realy should of said they are treasure seekers and when no treasure is found they start to cry. Much like the buyer on e-bay who purchased a cigar box of 2,000 stamps for $20.00 and e-mail me back there was no stamps that catalog over $5.00 in the lot . I e-mail him back ,stating you paid a penny a stamp what would you like at that price .

There is no question these mass sellers on e-bay are selling for a profit ,its a business .Did these buyers think they were smarter than the seller or did they think they were buying from a stupid seller who doesn't know the material...........give me a break .

Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-04-07 at 17:44:25 PST   Listings
Woo-eee

Just bought an almost dirt cheap ticket to NY for christmas.

Hoping my daughter finds a job and graduates this semester.

Interesting expose of a British seller on Australian stamp chatboard.

Shucks, I didn't even come close on this one.
Getting to be too many volcano stamp collectors.
I'm sure seller was happy at getting over catalog.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1014 ) on Nov-04-07 at 16:59:18 PST   Listings
Anne… Nice to see you posting. It’s been a while. Too many catalog queens lately, not enough goddesses.



George K., my good friend, who has been an indefatigable crusader against fraud and foul play on eBay, has fought against [a certain seller in Hillary Clinton’s/Rudy Guiliani’s home state, aforementioned on this board today] for many years, for exactly the kind of tactics described here. They also offer fuzzy scans of stamps that might be valuable versions of some classic stamps (such as TYPE IV 10¢ Washingtons from the 1850s) then feign ignorance of what they were doing. George has had quite a few sparkly epithets for those folks over the years I’ve known him.

It has been my experience that good quality material, if found on eBay (not easy, but it’s out there) can be picked up at a lower price than one would pay at a brick-and-mortar auction house, where the bidders know what they are looking for. Such items can then be sold for a handsome return at a brick-and-mortar auction.

The converse is a little different. Crap can be bought at any respectable auction. It’s the stuff culled out of collections that really has no value because it is damaged, common, or fake. There’s always buyers for these remainder lots because there is a ready market for it on eBay. Some bidder will always be dazzled by the idea of buying a high catalog value stamp for a few percent of CV, without realizing that the torn corners, thins, holes, scotch tape and burns from Aunt Bessie’s crack pipe render it completely worthless.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1014 ) on Nov-04-07 at 16:39:43 PST   Listings
Lars… Thanks for the explanation. That was an excellent find, and a terrific price.

There is no substitute for educating yourself about your material, which enables you to pounce on items like that while no one else has any idea of their significance.

Again, very well done!

Jim
Posted by abt1950   ( 229 ) on Nov-04-07 at 16:28:57 PST   Listings
Hi all.

Another comment on a certain high volume stamp company whose name has been recently mentioned--I bought a lot from them a few years back. Nothing terribly expensive, but not cheap either. It turned out to be floor sweepings--literally. Most of the stamps were CTOs and a pretty high percentage had thins. Didn't bother leaving feedback, but they're on my no-buy list. One of the 2 worst lots I've ever gotten on eBay.

Anne
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-04-07 at 16:25:48 PST   Listings
Jaywild
He has been asking on other boards
as I do not know
bout them modern sticky things

I left a link to here

Not a joke
Posted by jaywild   ( 1014 ) on Nov-04-07 at 16:23:21 PST   Listings
8763636… I’ve got a stamp for you, if you’re interested. It’s an inverted Jenny. Google “inverted Jenny” and see what they’re worth. I can let you have mine for $10,000. That’s much less than you’d pay for one anywhere else.



Just kidding of course…

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1014 ) on Nov-04-07 at 16:18:25 PST   Listings
8763636… Your post was a joke, right?

Jim
Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Nov-04-07 at 16:01:31 PST   Listings
philaweb...It takes a while for eBay to reindex its data bases. There has always been a lag.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 359 ) on Nov-04-07 at 15:56:18 PST   Listings
Just to let any of the Zeppelin specialists know that sadly John N. Duggan (UK) died on October 26th. He was one of the leading world experts on Zeppelin mail and wrote many articles.
Posted by 8763636   ( 25 ) on Nov-04-07 at 15:19:18 PST   Listings
Hi, I am trying to get some information on a "forever" stamp booklet that I recently bought. The bells on the back of this book face the opposite way from the bells on the front. All the other books that I have seen have all the bells on both the front and back facing the same way. I was wondering if this might be some kind of printing error. This link should take you to a picture of the book. Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
Posted by philaweb   ( 313 ) on Nov-04-07 at 15:02:13 PST   Listings
Has any sellers noticed a lag of a couple of hours before listings appears in searches?
Posted by philaweb   ( 313 ) on Nov-04-07 at 14:54:51 PST   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-04-07 at 14:45:13 PST   Listings
KCHRIST ---Greetings .....being on a "do not sell to" is a common thing around here ,if someone doesn't like what you post on this chatroom ,your on someones list.Im on a half-dozen list .

The point I was making is the buying appetite is huge and its helping push prices higher .When you look at these large sellers on e-bay they have affected the market place .

The reason I purchase my stamps at a public auction is the ability to sit down and view the material for a few days before I bid on it ,it helps stop the crap on e-bay like this that I got last month and had to settle for something less . E-BAY PURCHASE .......paul

Posted by kchrist499   ( 1199 ) on Nov-04-07 at 13:31:07 PST   Listings
They also put me on their "do not sell to" list!
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1199 ) on Nov-04-07 at 13:29:59 PST   Listings
Sorry for the bold.
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1199 ) on Nov-04-07 at 13:29:20 PST   Listings
Re: NY StampsI had the misfortune of buying a lot of their "Classic collection"; when it arrived, they all had faults, major in some cases.

I emailed them that the collection was grossly misdescribed and I wanted a refund. Naturally, I got no response so I contacted PayPal and filed a Dispute.

Lo and behold, NY stamps offered to refund my money if I agreed not to leave negative feedback.

If you look at their feedback record, they had over 35 "satisfied by mutual consent" listings.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-04-07 at 12:54:33 PST   Listings
NOIP----It is a bad practice to judge the overall market based on one firm and especially one that services the bottom feeders on e-bay .Stamps are showing strength and prices are getting better for those holding material,but its getting harder to buy especial good material at the old levels of the 1990's .The market values are coming closer to the prices that the catalogs are printing .The real nice stuff will always be ahead of catalog pricing .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-04-07 at 12:43:03 PST   Listings
NOIP--------The facts speak for themselfs .NYSTAMPS RECORD ON E-BAY IS 17,937 POSITIVE FEEDBACKS.They have only 6 negatives .They sell many many lots priced over a few hundred dollars each,with some going into the thousands .Much more impressive than Jay's friends who are in the $2.00 to $5.00 e-bay sellers class .

They purchase from national known stamp auction firms and compete in a open market place .

Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-04-07 at 12:31:29 PST   Listings
@all: The letter went by Cunard Steamer "Niagara", she left Liverpool on March 24th and arrived at Boston on April 6th, 1849. It is a single unpaid letter. The treaty was not yet ratified officially but the treaty rates applied (you rash Americans started sending treaty letters at the end of January 1849 - that startled the British quite a bit).

As the rate was 1/- or 24 Cents (rather nicely shown with the black rate mark) and the letter was sent unpaid by a British steamer, USPS owed 19 Cents to the British P.O.: 3 Cents British inland + 16 Seapostage. Which is marked in black ink on the front. This is the first time I have seen a British manuscript debit notation. A few days later, the first British "rocketchair" rate marks came into use =D
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 303 ) on Nov-04-07 at 12:10:14 PST   Listings
Bob in WA

A nice cover with a French bridge stamp here

Posted by jaywild   ( 1014 ) on Nov-04-07 at 11:29:18 PST   Listings
Lars… I can see a pencil notation “£40.— ” on the cover. Also, I can’t quite decipher the pen rate notation. Looks like “6” but also somewhat like “6½”.

Jim
Posted by malolo   ( 861 ) on Nov-04-07 at 11:21:14 PST   Listings
I agree with Jim. Could have been first sailing of letters carried at new Convention rate between UK and US. First day of new rate!

Roger
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-04-07 at 11:20:29 PST   Listings
@iomoon: Good! We´re getting closer. Actually this is the "Transition Period" between the end of the "Retaliatory Period" on Dec. 31st and the official Treaty, starting July 1st, 1849. So March is pretty early. But then there is a scribbly detail that intrigued me buying it.
Posted by malolo   ( 861 ) on Nov-04-07 at 11:18:37 PST   Listings
deckelmouk -
Not sure of significance of sailing date.
http://www.ns1763.ca/ponyexpress/ponyex13.html

Could have been carried by Nova Scotia Pony Express.
http://www.littletechshoppe.com/ns1625/nshist09.html
http://www.xphomestation.com/xp-novascotia.html

Researching old letters sure takes up a lot of valuable time, which could be better spent doing something important, such as watching television, gardening, driving to visit long lost relatives, shopping, etc. LOL

Thanks for showing the letter. I await your interest.

Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-04-07 at 11:08:28 PST   Listings
Lars

First year of the Anglo-US convention?
Posted by jaywild   ( 1014 ) on Nov-04-07 at 10:48:04 PST   Listings
NOIP… New York Stamps buys crap by the ton at auction and sells it on eBay by the stamp and by made-up lots that were supposedly part of a collection. (Actually they are pages from collections with all the marginally decent material stripped out—you can even see the shiny spots where the hinges used to be.) So anyone who competes head-to-head with NY Stamps is not competing for quality material in any shape or form, so it is impossible to extrapolate anything about the overall stamp market, whether prices, strength or whatever other aspect, from that perspective.

You can browse through any US category and find NY Stamps offerings, for a look at what they market on eBay.

SCW (eBay Stamp Watch) has had numerous tussles with NY Stamps over their material.

Jim
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-04-07 at 10:23:26 PST   Listings
Bill "Via Nicaragua" is an error on behalf of the seller. The letter went by Cunard steamer "Niagara", nothing unusual with that. I was rather concentrating on the time span than on the ship.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 413 ) on Nov-04-07 at 09:34:47 PST   Listings
deckelmouk maybe disdescribed lot, sent on ship Niagra not via Nicaragua?
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-04-07 at 09:10:21 PST   Listings
Good evening! Although it gets increasingly difficult to find interesting transatlantic letters on eBay, I was delighted when I won this item: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290176101568 - any ideas why this is going to play an important role in my exhibit?
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-04-07 at 08:40:06 PST   Listings
Greetings to you all

Michel


Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-04-07 at 08:22:14 PST   Listings


Michel

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Greetings to you all
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Posted by claghorn1p   ( 413 ) on Nov-04-07 at 07:08:07 PST   Listings
kalapnath If you post a LINK to a scan, we can help.

http://www.iswsc.org/iswsc_ident.html

Forgery Identification Site

Posted by kalapnath   ( 0 )   on Nov-04-07 at 06:25:05 PST   Listings
hi can someone please help me i have a stamp but i cannot find it on ebay for sale can anyone tell me the name of a site where i can find my stamp and a price for it

thank you
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-04-07 at 05:34:54 PST   Listings
Boston .A few times it was mention that im buying picked over lots at the local auction houses ,this is true to a point in that many specialised studies and off-beat material gets low realization at the local level .But the better material left intact by the bigger firms is still out their ,thats why i've been all ready waiting three years to buy a decent Cape of Good Hope collection .It will show up but when.Then have some clown tell me I over paid for it because he says its worth i/4 catalog ---right
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-04-07 at 05:26:18 PST   Listings
RAINER----Let me clearify myself ,first Im talking only about U.S. stamp auction firms .

There are only five and maybe six firms that sell unpicked over and non-maufactored bulk lots or collections.Then there are two dozen other auction houses who buy from these firms ,they breakdown the lots further and sell individual stamps at a lower catalog .So what we have is something like a three tier level of auction houses.Then a lower fourth level of dealers and e-bay sellers .

A few times on this board I mentioned to DJS that we should meet at one of these top tier firms and he can see and experience where the stamps come from that he is buying from the dealers at the shows ,these are the guys I meet in

Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-04-07 at 04:54:27 PST   Listings
Frank, I do not know the stamp (auction) market neither..., however, what I notice is a vast number of standard stamps and sets which years ago where sold by dealers only and the extremely high prices paid for graded stamps. Collections, well, despite the denial from auction houses, i believe, many of them were made up...
Posted by breffington   ( 386 ) on Nov-04-07 at 04:36:44 PST   Listings
Stamps12345&Rainer: I don't understand the stamp market? Buy ads are increasing, auction houses are posting strong results yet we all know that the starter base of incoming collectors is supposed to have shrunk dramatically. So, what gives? Bulk lots and albums filled with mixed mint and used and short sets are ending up in whose collections? The kids are not collecting and the people our age(40-80) have moved past general WW collections. I don't understand what's going on. Maybe a wave of new collectors coming in via ebay or what? What is going on? Frank
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1418 ) on Nov-04-07 at 03:35:47 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-04-07 at 03:08:32 PST   Listings
RAINER------That is true .But at stamp auctions I was the "big buyer" with $500.00 in years past .But today it is nothing to see a dozen buyers on the floor spenting $10,000 or more on collections or bulk lots .I've sat next to NEW YORK STAMPS at auctions both here in Chicago and New York and watch him buy for his e-bay business sixty or seventy bulk lots and no joke that guy buys for e-bay sales tons of material .Today im a small buyer compared to some of these guys ,they buy everything and they got a checkbook that who knows where the limit is $100,000 and more .Its a different world to buy stamps in even with your statment of less collectors .There is no shortage of buying ads and internet bidding at stamp auctions the numbers are getting bigger .
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-04-07 at 02:48:40 PST   Listings
Paul, do not forget the decreasing number of collectors in your calculation...
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-04-07 at 02:44:01 PST   Listings
RAINER ----Your right about making a distinction between auction material and e-bay material.This is a change that is developing over the years.

The better auction housing will always have bulk lots and estate type collections with the mix of dealer inventories .Over the E-BAY years less and less of the consignment type bulk lots are being given to auction houses ,over the past thirty years of looking at and purchaseing that material more owner are listing and selling that cheaper material on e-bay .There were years before e-bay and after the collapse of the speculative stamp market collapsed that one could buy volumes and volumes of country collections full of cheap material {cheap material being less than $10.00 per item wether it was a complete set or a older stamp}.Remembering years when I could fill the back of a truck with boxes of albums ,collections and dealer cards of sets . This was also the time when the Scott catalog only listed face different stamps so a Gibbons or a Michel put the collector into a different world than other bidders at stamp auctions .It was a fun time when other dealers and collectors were pricing stamps at 1/10 of catalog and not willing to buy duplicates .It was a time when older material was coming on the market and other buyers wanted MNH or complete sets ,the older studies were being thrown into bulk lots .The attitude was if its not listed in Scotts its bulk material.

This all changed with e-bay ,then came the worldwide market place .

So I will agree with you the market place changes and the stamp market place is shifting again ,we will not see the vast collection and huge inventories going as often to the auction houses ,now collectors and dealers will sell off there stock on e-bay to get money to buy more better material ,which all comes down to prices increasing across the board ......paul

Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-03-07 at 21:59:57 PDT   Listings
Paul, I believe the material offered by Spink/Shreves was never ebay style material. However, i believe that collections/accumulations will end up as individual lots at ebay.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-03-07 at 21:26:44 PDT   Listings
The Spink/Shreves stamp auction company has just been posted by the firm and the results are impressive. Buying was very strong with a higher than ever of internet bidding helping to push prices to strong levels for new impressive levels.

If these auction houses keep announcing strong sales and the buy ads are increasing in the philatelic press with bigger and bolder ads .The sellers who have over the years sold huge amounts of material on e-bay have to be getting to the point were demand is going to reach a new level and the inventories are running thin .We could see a spike in prices across the board.......paul

Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Nov-03-07 at 21:22:14 PDT   Listings
oggilby...Ohio State and LSU better hope the Ducks go to the Rose Bowl so neither of them have to play them.
Posted by oggilby   ( 1238 ) on Nov-03-07 at 21:12:52 PDT   Listings
Those of yuose in MDT & PDT zones,be sure to watch SNL tonight. NBC'S Brian Williams is the host and he's doing a pretty good job, especially the day in the life of Brian Williams sketch.

Boston College falls tonight, but the Oregon Ducks are still rolling toward the Rose bowl against Michigan (hopefully).
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 502 ) on Nov-03-07 at 20:17:47 PDT   Listings
Sunday bookmark.. not commenting on any coil stamps. nope, no way!
Posted by jaywild   ( 1011 ) on Nov-03-07 at 19:31:01 PDT   Listings
oggilby… Drat—clouds out tonight.

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-03-07 at 18:04:06 PDT   Listings
Due Well that one does make it hard to complete the "act", but it still feels real good trying!
Posted by oggilby   ( 1238 ) on Nov-03-07 at 17:38:33 PDT   Listings
Has anybody taken a look at comet Holmes? It's in the NE sky near the Perseus star cluster, a big fuzzy ball of light when seen through binoculars. See here!
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-03-07 at 17:27:55 PDT   Listings
Ant_Ra

Made beer come out my nose :|}


I

Used just one stamp

but being a Back of the book kinda guy

decided 1 RJA59 was just snug .



Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-03-07 at 17:18:55 PDT   Listings
Paul Just kidding, I already know you have that stamp because you have showed it before. Have you tried it out yet?
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-03-07 at 17:09:14 PDT   Listings
Paul 12345 You read my mind!!! I was thinking of running this for you. You will need it if you want to try that test!
I ruined a perfectly good strip of 6 $14.00 international expresss stamps last night trying that test.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-03-07 at 16:35:01 PDT   Listings
single {one stamp}
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-03-07 at 16:33:24 PDT   Listings
ROGER ---How did you break those perfs on a signle stamp?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-03-07 at 16:29:20 PDT   Listings
GOOD NEWS First im finish working for the year ,will start up in April .Second the stamp auction lots came today ,delived by Fedex from Boston .

The sad news is that im unemployed and have zero funds in my stamp budget .So maybe we could have Mitch do a charity auction .

Posted by jaywild   ( 1011 ) on Nov-03-07 at 16:09:51 PDT   Listings
oggilby… Holy cow—lightning is one of those phenomena I steer plenty clear of. Luckily it is very rare in Los Angeles (we traded them for earthquakes) but I’ve been in many a lightning storm. Had a strike hit right across the street when I was standing by my car, and yes, I heard that loud and clear, and for several days afterward.



Jim
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-03-07 at 16:03:45 PDT   Listings


Posted by philaweb   ( 313 ) on Nov-03-07 at 15:54:30 PDT   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-03-07 at 15:48:22 PDT   Listings




Posted by greenwave4u   ( 81 ) on Nov-03-07 at 15:39:15 PDT   Listings
Due2 It's already started over here, been popping off all evening and still officially 2 days to go! My dogs just want to get out and fight each one.
Peter
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-03-07 at 15:30:57 PDT   Listings
Everyone ready for Guy Fawkes Day

I've been laying in a bonfire.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-03-07 at 14:10:05 PDT   Listings
corgi

I hope this is not part of the Royal collection affixed with scotch tape!!!
Posted by malolo   ( 861 ) on Nov-03-07 at 14:02:28 PDT   Listings
saphilatelics -

Thanks for the translation.
Now it makes sense that the sender tied a key to the string and mailed it for the first class rate and it was processed accordingly. I love it!!!

Roger
Posted by breffington   ( 386 ) on Nov-03-07 at 13:39:37 PDT   Listings
corgi19700hv89: Re scotch tape stained stamps: short answer is no. Bit longer is once the glue has soaked into the stamps and you see a stain the size of the piece of tape adhering to the stamp it's dead. A dead stamp useless for collecting and with zero value. Buy stamp hinges and old packs of a 1,000 Dennison hinges ato affix stamps in the future. You'll see them from time to time on ebay for five to $10 plus shipping and handling.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-03-07 at 13:35:33 PDT   Listings
corgi19700hv89 The simple answer is NO!
Unfortunately many people used scotch tape on those crummy crystal mounts to keep them from falling out. This often times caused staining on the edge of the stamps (a really bad idea).
Worse of course were the nimrods who hinged the stamp with tape!!
Unless they are very valuable stamps they're probably best filed to the trash can.
Posted by monikaundralf   ( 561 ) on Nov-03-07 at 13:30:48 PDT   Listings
Hello and Good evening!
Just the Beta-version of the "New-Old Stamp-Cafe" has opened outside eBay, because eBay has canceld our Old Stamp-Cafe. You will find it here:
http://www.1apeters.de/Cafe/index.php
Best Regards Ralf
Posted by corgi19700hv89   ( 231 ) on Nov-03-07 at 13:25:06 PDT   Listings
correction on spelling scotch tape
Posted by corgi19700hv89   ( 231 ) on Nov-03-07 at 13:23:59 PDT   Listings
Hello I would like information on stamps that have been hinged with scoth tape is there any way that I can remove the glue residue without damaging the stamp?
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 473 ) on Nov-03-07 at 13:23:35 PDT   Listings
"I am sending herewith the key to the hamper (clothes/laundry basket); hope it will prove to be the right one; if it is not the right one, Frau Biermann has a spare key. Not sure yet, whether I will be home for the Christmas vacation, will write on that further. I am greatly looking forward to a letter/parcel (from you) very soon. Best wishes, Sepp"
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 473 ) on Nov-03-07 at 13:20:00 PDT   Listings
malolo:
"Sende Ihnen hiermit Schluessel (?) zum Waeschekorb; hoffe, dass es der richtige sei; falls es nicht der richtige ist, so hat Frau Biermann (?) noch einen solchen in Reserve. Weiss noch nicht bestimmt, ob ich in den Weihnachtsferien nach Hause komme, werde darueber noch berichten. Indem ich einer baldigen Sendung mit Vergnuegen entgegensehe gruesst Sepp"
Posted by bjornmu   ( 949 ) on Nov-03-07 at 13:10:09 PDT   Listings
Roger, maybe it was just sent as a postcard? Or rather, as a letter due to its non-standard size. I can't quite make up the text except that it's German. I think I can read "Don't yet know <...> if I will come [home?] for the Christmas vacation." I'm sure our new arrivals from Germany can do better. :-)
Posted by malolo   ( 861 ) on Nov-03-07 at 12:48:22 PDT   Listings
Aloha -
oggilby - Add Hawaii to your list of not changing time. A result of this phenomenon is that I get to finish work for the next two months at 00:30am every night instead of 11:00pm. Da planes come in later and a half hour for good luck!

Here's an item I received yesterday. Front, Back
I have never seen a razor cancel on a parcel card and had never expected to see one since the Lausanne cancelers were used in the letter processing division. The 10 centime franking implies a very light package, most likely a silk sample going to an embroiderer. Appenzell was the embroidery center in the late 19th century. If anyone can read the reverse, I'd like to know what was written. I've also never seen communication written on a parcel card. Makes for an interesting addition to my exhibit.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels

Pro - I conducted your medical experiment last night and discovered, perf 15 stamps are weak and useless, and perf 10 almost gave me gangrene. LOL
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-03-07 at 12:28:21 PDT   Listings
I mean the "beanie baby" like fad
that is world wide philately..


Oggy

It was 70 when i put my feet in the water this morning , caught breakfast ...
Posted by oggilby   ( 1238 ) on Nov-03-07 at 11:53:55 PDT   Listings
Greetings form a brisk (55 F), fall is falling Central MD. Don't forget to turn back your clocks tonight, America (except for AZ and parts of IN).

Jaywild--being on the short end of a lightning bolt strike, all I could hear was a loud buzz, a bright flash, and no thunder! I was stitting in my car in a school parking lot waiting for the storm to pass so that my softball team could play. The lightning bolt hit the light pole directly behind my car. People in cars no more than twenty feet away from me heard the sizzle and then the loud bang that I missed.

due2-- My guess would be Ben Franklin, since he started the whole postal madness!
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-03-07 at 10:49:30 PDT   Listings
Did you see that major league move

" but the Founding Fathers did get a lot of it right the first time"

Who knew Philatelly had founding fathers.

But which Founding Fathers
WHO DO YOU
attribute Philatelics as we see it.

I sometimes think

S.A.Taylor
or T.S. Crayton jr.


But Who do you consider
a founding father.

I have my guess and will post it there.

at a later point in that hopefully on going conversation.



Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-03-07 at 10:07:34 PDT   Listings
I would ask at the Right board,
But would like to see as much on
the Subject of
"Stamps and " stamp numbers

as I can without ,

a Simplified System sounds good to me.
But I do not flyspeck stamps
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-03-07 at 10:00:35 PDT   Listings

Briguy
or any with the time period

Have been offered, DO NOT Have Scan/photo.

A "DUE 2 Cover he claims is a Drop Rate
in RICHmond Jun or Jul l862
Reading it seems this might in fact be a possible
Additional Due2 Item I should have.
Now the trick question

$

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-03-07 at 08:44:10 PDT   Listings
@Lars
Thanks
Items that are faux, I like to copy and print out for my
book that I carry to shows etc.
Saves me money in the Long term

Thanks again.
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-03-07 at 08:16:54 PDT   Listings
@due2cents: Wow, eBay-Security was quick for once. Usually it takes 12-24 hours for a response. And yes, I have saved an image: http://sites.internet.lu/folders/alphacomixandstamps/Bayern_Flugpost_falsch.jpg
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-03-07 at 06:10:51 PDT   Listings
@Lars that Item is ENDED
Did you save a scan ?
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-03-07 at 04:21:18 PDT   Listings
Good Morning! This is a typical modern fake that would not fool the experienced collector: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230186170146 The card is a modern offset reprint, color of the stamps look different from the genuine article, the rubber stamped adress belongs to a well known German dealer but was added routinouly to gain credibility. The cancels are fake, too. But look pretty, though...

@roger:

I am still checking Luxembourg-Swiss-mail for the Razor Cancels! But alas, no new discoveries so far.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-03-07 at 04:15:55 PDT   Listings
Letzten tag der arbeit , dann briefmarken bis April
Posted by saschjohn   ( 332 ) on Nov-03-07 at 04:08:51 PDT   Listings
Hey Jim thanks and you're right I just saw this there was something stick on the left Stamp.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1418 ) on Nov-03-07 at 04:02:28 PDT   Listings

saschjohn
PS
The stamp with two straight edges looks like a typical booklet corner stamp. Several of the US commemoratives are being issued in that format. It also looks like something may have been stuck to it and in removing it a bit of the ink and top layer of paper has been lifted off.
Jim L.


member
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1418 ) on Nov-03-07 at 03:59:17 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


saschjohn
From the scan I’d suspect that another stamp got partially stuck and lifted off the top layer of paper and ink when it was removed, probably by pulling. If so the paper should seem slightly roughed up in the white area. It’s one of those things that seeing the actual stamp is much better than seeing a scan. Hope this helps.

Jim L.


member
Posted by saschjohn   ( 332 ) on Nov-03-07 at 03:20:07 PDT   Listings
Hi from Germany
got this from the States
http://www.saschjohn.homepage.t-online.de/us.jpg
Can you help me with this STamp please. Is this a normal Corner Stamp or what?? Thanks Sascha
Posted by de66   ( 1153 ) on Nov-03-07 at 00:49:30 PDT   Listings
22028

Yep, still waiting to hear via email 28 hours left

D1
Posted by sammlermax1   ( 939 ) on Nov-02-07 at 23:17:29 PDT   Listings
Good morning all an thankx for the realy frindly words to the exeBay.de mailer.
@mini*lindy: to 14:31:31,Hello and servus mini*lindy ;-)
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-02-07 at 22:54:05 PDT   Listings
D1, interesting reply that you have received on the message board at www.stampauctioncentral.com
Posted by jaywild   ( 1011 ) on Nov-02-07 at 21:59:18 PDT   Listings
Last post o’ the night from me… I recently got this cover on eBay, an unusual rate I believe. Chittenango NY is less than 15 miles from Syracuse University, so I believe it qualified for the local rate, and because it is addressed simply to a person at Chittenango it was obviously not delivered but picked up at the PO.

The rate works out this way—5 oz (I am assuming they are athletic event tickets or programs) @ local, non-delivery PO rate of 1¢ per ounce (so, 5¢), registration 20¢, return receipt 4¢. Total 29¢.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1011 ) on Nov-02-07 at 20:52:29 PDT   Listings
Io… That shock wave is incredible, especially when nobody heard it! That’s even bigger than the shock waves around an atomic bomb.

I was in an explosion once that was so loud I didn’t hear it, just a strange fizzing that lasted a tenth of a second. I guess it was system overload or something, because it was heard miles away according to the newspaper. All of a sudden I was surrounded by fire and propelled down a flight of stairs. My shirt was on fire, which some fellows happened to notice and immediately put out, lucky, lucky for me. I got some terrible, oozing burns on my arms out of it but nothing more, and today you can’t even see where the burns were.

Jim
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 20:51:53 PDT   Listings
Oh I guess I should post in addition

those self adhesives stick like no tomorrow.

Look for stamps with Gum


Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 20:50:22 PDT   Listings
NEW USE FOR STAMPS

Ok so all you stamp dealers when the older folks
ask if you have any coils or strips of stamps available

You might want to avoid asking if they are collectors


" Reverse Your Aging Process




12 of 16


After learning about Dr. Oz's aging test for men, you'll never look at postage stamps the same way again.

Erectile dysfunction is a sexual disorder many men develop as they get older. The first signs of this disorder are usually overlooked because they occur while men sleep, Dr. Oz says. "At nighttime, men won't get natural erections, which happen when [they] fall asleep."

To determine whether a man's p***s is becoming erect at night, doctors developed a simple medical test that costs less than $3 to perform.

Before falling asleep, Dr. Oz says a man should take a roll or row of connected stamps—between four and six, depending on the size of the p***s—and wrap it gently around the flaccid penis. Carefully moisten and connect the stamps on the ends to form a complete ring.

If the perforations are broken the next morning, that means the penis became erect and is functioning properly. If the stamps are still attached, Dr. Oz says you may have a problem. "



You may have a problem


So one thing to start watching for are small quanties of
stamps
being offered as slightly used
But Uncancelled



Good Evening all
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1418 ) on Nov-02-07 at 19:59:38 PDT   Listings

Let me add an additional warm welcome to any and all the stamp chatters from the ex /de board

saphilatelics
eBay has threatened to close down this chat/board in the past. For a while there was a board run outside of eBay just to have a place to discuss “questionable” lots and sellers. But that was when the pinkliners posted here. It’s been a long span since I’ve noticed one of their postings here.

Jim L.


member
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-02-07 at 19:50:06 PDT   Listings
Jim

Interestingly, survivors of the Mt. St. Helens eruption never heard it go off, despite the shock wave.

The same was not true of the Krakatau eruption which is recorded as the loudest historical noise.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1011 ) on Nov-02-07 at 17:52:31 PDT   Listings
nomad55… Wow—that poor guy (your distant uncle) to have survived the terrible parts of the war only to die at Petersburg, when it was practically over. Does the discharge state where he was on July 3, 1863?

I find myself buying the occasional Civil War item simply because the era interests me so much. I picked up this, for example, a Union Army Paymaster’s receipt dated April 14, 1865. I also won a requisition order from the Union Army at Parkersburg WV, dated April 15, 1865, but that hasn’t arrived yet. The ink is smudged on a lot of the document, presumably because it got rained on, but the date is very clear.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1011 ) on Nov-02-07 at 17:21:46 PDT   Listings
nomad55… I already have an October 5, 1863 cover…



Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1011 ) on Nov-02-07 at 17:12:30 PDT   Listings
dragonstamps… There are all kinds of acoustic oddities that happen in the vicinity of battles. On the first day of Gettysburg, most of Meade’s army was less than ten miles away, yet nobody heard so much as a whisper of the conflict. They were in what is known as an “acoustic shadow”, where noises from events quite nearby are complete inaudible. The reverse phenomenon, equally inexplicable in terms of physics, is being able to hear noises from extraordinarily far away.

As a boy I lived on a very quiet street in a very quiet subdivision, but every so often, on clear cool mornings, we could hear rushing traffic coming from virtually the next street over but could never find the source of it. The nearest big street was Speedway Boulevard, over a mile away. So it is entirely possible that the cannon fire was heard in Pittsburgh. July 3 at Gettysburg was the largest artillery engagement of all time in the Western Hemisphere.

Mini-Lindy... How odd that your husband has an interest in the American Civil War. I’ve not been to Gettysburg, but would very much like to go some day, and visit other battle sites as well. As for turnabout, I was fascinated by Australian & Norfolk Island history in the book The Fatal Shore by Robert Hughes. (? I hope I got the name right.) I couldn’t put the book down.

briguy... I think the senator might have been Wigfall from Texas, one of the more colorful and well-spoken gentlemen of the Confederacy.

Jim
Posted by nomad55   ( 936 ) on Nov-02-07 at 16:51:51 PDT   Listings
Briguy....do you own any of the monographs written by Raynor Hubbell in the 1950's? I'm trying to put together a set, either original or xerox.
Posted by nomad55   ( 936 ) on Nov-02-07 at 16:50:10 PDT   Listings
jaywild....Shame!! Shame!! July 3, not October 5?
;)

Your historical description regardin the date is quite accurate. I have framed on my wall my Dad's grandmother's brother's union army discharge certificated, dated July 3, 1863. Since he was single, he re-enlisted as a substitute body for his married brother in law, and was killed while on patrol during the early stages of the battle at Petersburg.

Welcome to our friends from Germany. A few years ago on another chat board, we were deluged by Germans as their equivalent board had technical difficulties. I was able to converse successfully in semi-lntelligent German, all the while ignoring the snickers emanating from the background.
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 956 ) on Nov-02-07 at 16:48:37 PDT   Listings
lluehhhb Saw your earlier post asking about scans of Western Hungary stamps. Here are a few.

1st issue

3rd issue

5th issue

6th issue

Only one of these scans shows a complete set, the fifth issue, all the rest show some examples. There are 9 different sets in total, amounting to 103 stamps.

Let me know if you need more info, Jimbo2

PS Hope this works!
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 16:14:11 PDT   Listings
Hey
Brigguy
Shot anything lately
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Nov-02-07 at 15:58:10 PDT   Listings
Jaywild No need to appologize! (at least to me) America as we know it was born on July 3rd, 1863 at both Gettysburg and Vicksburg.
I forget who it was, but when a Confederate Senator was informed of the result of those two battles, he responded to the Gettysburg results with understandable sadness, but the news Vicksburg had just fallen...was greated by him falling to his knees and crying. Seems he could sense which battle spelled the inevitable doom of his new country.

now on to stamp things

Those of you that have access to the American cable channel "Discovery", are in for a special treat. They have a show called "How its made". Basically they take a common product, and video detail step by step at the factory, the motions done to create the product. This weeks episode included "self adhesive postage stamps". Every step of the process, shown in close anal detail! Many cable providers now have an "on demand" digital service, meaning the episode containing the birth of a postage stamp, is accessable for about a month at your liesure....

Posted by philaweb   ( 313 ) on Nov-02-07 at 15:57:03 PDT   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!

Alternatively: Möjn/Tach/Grüss Gott/Servus!

Posted by malolo   ( 861 ) on Nov-02-07 at 15:42:30 PDT   Listings
Aloha Lars -

I'm in the process this year of discovering which countries bought cancelers from Güller & Cie of Hüttikon, near Zürich. This company made the deCoppet cancelers after 1903 for the Swiss PO. I assume the company made for other countries using the same patent, but have yet to confirm the informaiton. So far it is confirmed that cancelers were sent to Norway, Spain, Portugal (and colonies), Chile, Mexico, (possibly El Salvador), and Finland. After 1905-6 period they went to Tunisia, Eritria, Italy, and other I can't think of right now.

Good to see you here, and I hope the demise of the eBay.de cafe will lead to a greater spread of information than previously was seen between the two Boards.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by huth.lu   ( 288 ) on Nov-02-07 at 15:17:03 PDT   Listings
@malolo: Switzerland was always way ahead concerning cancels, many types used in Germany (and Luxembourg, for that matter) have their origin in Switzerland.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 502 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:49:48 PDT   Listings
NOIP... JUST checked out some lisings, including mine, over there >> and eBay has a glitch, half are listed as FREE SHIPPING on the search list, but not in the auctions themselves (I don't do FREE anything!).

Linda
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 491 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:37:43 PDT   Listings
Jaywild: They heard the guns firing from Gettysburg on July 3rd as far away as Pittsburgh. I always found that one hard to believe. But anyway, it must have been LOUD.
Posted by malolo   ( 861 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:37:09 PDT   Listings
tomwolf_de -
The postmark on the shown stamp does not have a V or N behind the date. It is a socalled "24 hours postmark". These postmarks came in 1926! So the cancel on must be forged."

It is interesting that Switzerland started to change its cancels to the 24 hour clock starting in 1919, working with other countries to establish a universal train schedule. Prior to 1919 the morning hours were designated using Roman numerals "VII" and Arabic numerals for after noon. I have German test cancels that were used in Switzerland i n1902 and a later modification of 1906 that had the "V" and "N". The only Swiss cancel to have those letters.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 502 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:31:31 PDT   Listings
JayJim nice cover! My husband has always had an interest in the US Civil War since he had a board game as a teenager called GETTYSBURG (sent to him in London from a friend in NY). When we decided to vacation in the USA in 2004, Gettysburg was one of our first places to visit. Standing on Cemetary Hill looking out across the vast fields (even today) sent shivers down his spine. It's a lovely town, we were there for a few day in June and it was hot and humid.

Wilkommen to our new .de friends! and Servos, Max!

Linda
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:19:07 PDT   Listings
S4Ever
Those are all port cities
so that might make a difference
From port to US no intermediate stops, or transfers

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:17:47 PDT   Listings
JAYWILD
Nice Cover
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:16:41 PDT   Listings
S4Ever
Not that I know a lot but on most cards from that time
frame I would expect to see a cancel and some type of reciever

The occassional "Paid All" from one of the Big Ports
but as gfar as transit or handling marks
with the Billions of postcards in circulation in this period. I would think transit marks would be
minimal.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1011 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:15:24 PDT   Listings
NOIP… I thought I would share a recent acquisition, which arrived today. I think the postmark on this might be somewhat scarce but it was the date I was after, probably the most important date in American history in the whole of the 19th Century. On July 3, 1863, the Confederate garrison at Vicksburg Mississippi capitulated to Ulysses S. Grant, and 1000 miles to the northeast, the Union Army was victorious over the Confederates after the third day of fighting at Gettysburg Pennsylvania.

The fall of Vicksburg meant that the entire Mississippi River was now in the hands of the Union, cutting the Confederacy in half, and Meade’s victory at Gettysburg marked the end of the last offensive operations by Robert E. Lee, although his army did survive, almost unimaginably, for just short of two more years. But after that date, the eventual collapse of the Confederacy was only a matter of time.

Apologies to all those with no interest in this subject…

Jim
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 134 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:02:07 PDT   Listings
Hello due2cents, no I do not have any scans but these postal cards and post cards span the years of 1905 to 1930.
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 134 ) on Nov-02-07 at 14:00:32 PDT   Listings
Hello Buzones, thanks for your reply to my query. The postal cards that I am curious about are all from about 1905 to 1930.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 13:53:58 PDT   Listings
Thanks TomWold DE
That is what I thought.
Yes I understood very clearly
thanks for the Reply

I Like Infla Era material
Posted by tomwolf_de   ( 1182 ) on Nov-02-07 at 13:44:44 PDT   Listings
@due2cents: this cancel was backdated (I hope you understand what I mean). German Postmarks used during the inflation period had a "V" or an "N" behind the hours in the dateline (we call these postmarks "12 hours postmarks"). The postmark on the shown stamp does not have a V or N behind the date. It is a socalled "24 hours postmark". These postmarks came in 1926! So the cancel on must be forged.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 13:42:51 PDT   Listings
Wenn es genügend Interesse gibt, warum nicht geöffnet Ihr eigenes Stempel-Schwätzchen-Kaffee De hier schauen Aber es gibt viele andere.

here
Posted by knuden   ( 2386 ) on Nov-02-07 at 13:28:43 PDT   Listings
A warm welcome from me too to to my friends from the German board. I have had the pleasure to get good advices from you before but now it will even be more easy, when we are on the same board. :O)

deckelmouk - Hi Lars. Wellcome to you too. The Sudetenland stamps on eBay.de is a pain in the a.. - but a good advice is, if they canceled before October 1938 (with a few extentions) and the cancels are outside Sudetenland e.g. Prague - then it's a fake. I belive up to 90% of the overprinted Sudetenland stamps on eBay.de are fakes - that's why I say - buy only these with a certificate or a known expertzers cancel on the back of the stamp.

K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 13:22:55 PDT   Listings
Tomwolf_de

Am I understand correctly
that the cancel on this Stamp
Here

can NOT be found Real on this Issue??
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 13:19:32 PDT   Listings
Saphila

Have you ever asked anyone about the Chat or Discussions boards.

I do all the time and have for a few years

I have talked to around 6000 folks who
Ebay
99% (probablyMore) give me that Deer in the Headlite look

They have what on ebay.
Chatrooms I did not know

Discussion boards

Tried them once the folks there were rude.

While I lament the lose of the Threaded board for stamps here
It did make This Board ligthen up a little

At least there are not many anymore who complain about speelin and or grammer


Take a peek ifin you have time at the other boards
or threaded areas make some mental notes and go back in 10 days . I often ask myself why they support them at all.
Unless they feel that the Venting done on the Threads helps



Posted by buzones   ( 1021 ) on Nov-02-07 at 13:15:15 PDT   Listings
stamps4ever: From which time period are your cards? Modern postal sendings mostly do not show any transit or arrival marks.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 81 ) on Nov-02-07 at 13:12:30 PDT   Listings
A warm welcome to any stamp chatters from the ex /de board, we are only too pleased to give you a home in whatever language you choose to post in! I work for a German multi national based in UK, our company motto is "Think Customer", it is a pity that Ebay does not share the same thinking in the decisions it makes!


Peter


Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 13:01:20 PDT   Listings
Stamps 4 ever got any scans.



Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 134 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:51:10 PDT   Listings
I have a number of postal cards, post cards from Hong Kong, Shanghai etc. what I am wondering about is that they all have either a Shanghai, Hong Kong, or Victoria Circular Date Stamps but none of these postal cards seem to have transit marks, if they are being sent to U.S.A. should they not have transit marks. Could someone please explain to me why many of them have no transit marks.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8666 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:41:13 PDT   Listings
It may be time to discuss the future as it looks like this Chat will be going the same way as the German Cafe.

David B.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:38:13 PDT   Listings
Mausj

Sorry you are feeling the withdrawal pains
of the loss of your Cafe
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:35:40 PDT   Listings
SapaPhilatelics

No announcements
But I try to look at trends

I have a gut feeling that it may be in the not so distant future

When running the numbers of the boards (chat)

It is apparent to me that the majority of boards
(Chat) are just a few posters 99% of the time
and many take days to get 200 posts

Just believing in the bottom line

So much for so Few appears bad business.


Posted by mausj   ( 998 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:29:11 PDT   Listings
Hi freaks der Gezähnten,
kann ja wohl nicht sein daß es in Amerika noch das Cafe´ gibt und wir uns in good old germany mit so einem Schwachsinn begnügen müßen.
Außerdem sind diejenigen die Deppen die es mit der englischen Schreibweise nicht so haben.
Fühl mich nicht unbedingt daheim :-((
Hat keiner einen sehr guten Draht zu Ebay Deutschland und kann mal so eben ein bißchen energisch anfragen?
Das Cafe´ ist grad mal einen Tag weg und ich habe Entzugserscheinungen als wenn man einen Alki den Stoff wegnimmt.
Na ja, schau mer halt mal was noch so kommt .........
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:27:36 PDT   Listings
Since I read Abaums nice brochure
on the joys and advantages of Reperfing I
always wondered about them

I sent it to BrigGuy it was an interesting take
on how to get rid of those worthless stamps with a straight edge.
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:18:26 PDT   Listings
Wasn't their a bid story about Apfelbaum some years ago???
Posted by de66   ( 1153 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:16:48 PDT   Listings
22028
Many thanks i have posted it on Stamp Auction Network Message Board.

I shall await an answer but i wonder for how long i shall have to wait. Maybe 30 hours.

D1
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:03:27 PDT   Listings
@tomwolf: Why o why am I thinking about this seller when I look at your Infla stamp... http://search.ebay.de/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZrenate14011949daos
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-02-07 at 12:02:18 PDT   Listings
D1, if you logon to www.stampauctioncentral.com and go to the message board, i believe you will find some similar questions there...
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-02-07 at 11:58:49 PDT   Listings
@roger: Thanks for the kind words! =) I know that this is a typical problem on eBay.de but also on eBay.com: http://cgi.ebay.de/SBZ-Saechsische-Schwaerzungen-Art-der-Unkenntlichmachun_W0QQitemZ330179586147 (please advise if you have discussed these forgeries before). The underlying stamps are very cheap in unused condition and it´s cheap to put an "overprint" formed like a smudge on it.

After WWII the old stamps were overprinted or defaced and re-used, especially in Saxony (so-called "Sächsische Schwärzungen"). They do get expertized, but only in used form, never mint. If you want to collect them, go for covers.

There are two groups in Germany producing these fake overprints today. The overprints filtered down from eBay.de to eBay.com and even made it to major auction houses. A popular sideline are the "Sudetenland" overprints, swastikas on used or unused stamps from Tchechoslowakia. Often they are offered as fakes, often there is no information about authenticity. They usually find buyers around 10-20$. Drug business cannot be more profitable as the costs to produce them are minimal.
Posted by de66   ( 1153 ) on Nov-02-07 at 11:58:36 PDT   Listings
Anybody had trouble with apfelbauminc.com? I won a lot in their Buy or Die sale only to be told 30 hours later it had already been sold.

The description read: 1879-81 1p Orange (57 var.), pair, Proof with trial cancellation, VERY FINE. (1967 B.P.A. Cert.) from lot 387.

This appears to me to be suspicious have any of you had a similar experience with this company?

D1
Posted by tomwolf_de   ( 1182 ) on Nov-02-07 at 11:48:44 PDT   Listings
Na da fühlt man sich doch gleich wie zu Hause.

Hoffentlich begreift der Kaeufer noch, dass 24-Stunden-Stempel auf Marken der Inflation immer falsch sind: 120176749446
Die Marke ist natürlich nicht geprueft, das Pruefzeichen ist falsch!
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 473 ) on Nov-02-07 at 11:41:19 PDT   Listings
due,
are you saying there is a possibility this chat will be eliminated as well? I haven't seen any announcements.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 11:24:07 PDT   Listings
This Change and the new push for neighborhoods and group
participation
joined with the fact that the Pull down Menu at top of this page
does Not have a CHAT link
makes me wonder about the future of the Chat's at all.
Posted by malolo   ( 861 ) on Nov-02-07 at 11:16:37 PDT   Listings
Aloha and welcome -

It is too bad eBay.de saw fit to drop the Stamp Chat. Lars must have been doing an excellent job and stamp managers over there got tired of having to delete bad auctions. I wonder if the removal of Stamp Chat .de will lead to an increase of questionable auctions. There is no doubt this Chat was in the forefront of protest causing eBay to rethink its "we're just a venue" position. In typical corporate response the messengers at shot. (Remember the Stamp Thread which only lasted a couple of months!)

Back to the future.
I presume everyone, I mean everyone, is drinking Kona coffee for breakfast and I hope our new friends will find our chat a hospitable place to visit.

HTML links are the accepted method of showing images, and links to auctions are always welcome. Links to eBay auctions should always be of educational interest, preferably not to one's own active auctions.

I'm hoping the new German posts will be written in complete sentences so I can paste them into an online translator and understand the gist of the post. Short phrases, symbols, etc don't work with no understanding on my part. So to a certain extent I agree with "saphilatelics" in the hope that posters contribute more than "good morning". I expect to read more posts about European collecting and how commentary on eBay.de.


Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels

Posted by saphilatelics   ( 473 ) on Nov-02-07 at 11:00:24 PDT   Listings
It is to be hoped that the influx of former ebay.de chat board posters will bring with it a new wealth of information and shared stories on stamps/philately and not transform this board into an Ersatz-ebay.de board, where (call me out on this if the characterization seems unfair) 99% of postings were some regional variation on good morning/good afternoon/good evening, as well as listings of what any given poster was having/had had for breakfast/lunch/dinner. Considering that the board scrolls off after 200 posts (if I recall correctly), that would mean that those of us who are checking it regularly to catch up on all things philately (and the odd catfight) will have to do so more frequently. Not a prospect I look forward to.
Posted by thines   ( 1517 ) on Nov-02-07 at 10:47:23 PDT   Listings
Deluded person of the day. Week? Month???

120178656174

Terry Hines

Posted by sammlermax1   ( 939 ) on Nov-02-07 at 10:43:41 PDT   Listings
-1f in off
Posted by sammlermax1   ( 939 ) on Nov-02-07 at 10:42:36 PDT   Listings
Good evening from the beautiful Country off Austria.
Posted by wschmitti2   ( 3067 ) on Nov-02-07 at 10:33:47 PDT   Listings
Good evening from good old Germany! - Hallo alte Freunde :-)
Posted by tomwolf_de   ( 1182 ) on Nov-02-07 at 10:24:32 PDT   Listings
Guten Abend aus Mittel-Württemberg!
@iceland: ich auch, add me to your list *g*
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-02-07 at 10:13:05 PDT   Listings
Lars I believe, as per ebay rules, running auction can not be discussed at the forums, however..., where's no plaintiff there's no judge...
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-02-07 at 09:44:56 PDT   Listings
@all: How is the "policy" on links? From time to time I like to show some of the items that are false/fake but not described as such.
Posted by mikedak   ( 1294 ) on Nov-02-07 at 09:32:50 PDT   Listings
mendelbrot,
I like your ebay handle! One of my undergraduate degrees is applied mathematics and I took a special topics class in fractal geometry about 20 years ago, studying some of Mandelbrot's work. Brings back fond memories.. (and how little of that stuff I remember!)
Posted by iceland10   ( 1291 ) on Nov-02-07 at 09:31:38 PDT   Listings
Ich will das alte ebay cafe de wieder haben :-(

Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-02-07 at 09:24:27 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all

Michel

Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-02-07 at 09:06:28 PDT   Listings
Jim Glad to hear the card arrived safely!
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-02-07 at 09:03:09 PDT   Listings
Hi Richard,

Everything is well, thanks for asking! Hope you are well, too! I can avoid pesonal attacks easily as the "bad boys" I am dealing with are not posters on this board, as far as I can see.

Thanks for the compliment! I am still a "postal history baby" in comparison to your vast knowledge. But I am trying to learn as much and as fast as I can.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1011 ) on Nov-02-07 at 08:59:42 PDT   Listings
Lars Böttger… Welcome to the eBay stamps chatboard! I remember you very well as someone who sent me a very nice “October 5” postcard from Luxembourg last year. I am glad of the opportunity to thank you personally on this board for your unexpected kindness.

And welcome to all the other dispossessed posters from the eBay.de chatboard. Please feel free to discuss anything you want here, even if it might be understood by only a small number of other posters—that is what makes this board so interesting. I learn a lot by following the discussions that go into areas I am unfamiliar with.

Jim
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-02-07 at 08:57:10 PDT   Listings
@due2cents:

That´s one of my favourites, too! Printed matter and newspapers to or from the US in that specific timeframe, carried by steamship, is always a challenge.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1368 ) on Nov-02-07 at 08:49:11 PDT   Listings
Hello Lars - I trust all is well with you.

I don't post much here anymore because of a combination of time constraints, lack of questions that are readily answered within my area of expertise, and the large number of thinly veiled digs directed at me. I'm sure you will be better received because, even though English is not your first language, you write clearly and don't engage in personal attacks (that I have ever seen at least), and you know your subjects throughly.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 08:47:09 PDT   Listings
I really like the third Item at the top
in Frame 2 of Lars B.'s exhibit

Those of you who have never looked thru Exponet
Might be amazed at some of the exhibits

Also some of our better Known posters (philatelically)
have some nice showings there as well.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 08:31:04 PDT   Listings
Hey Lars B.

welcome
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Nov-02-07 at 08:29:12 PDT   Listings
A warm welcome to all the previous posters on ebay.de.
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Nov-02-07 at 08:19:52 PDT   Listings
Good Morning from Luxembourg! As this is one of the first posts at the US-Board, some words of introduction might be helpful:

My name is Lars Boettger, my main collecting interest are transatlantic letters 1838-1851 (see also "Exponet"), Luxembourg classics to 1940 (mainly cancellations as I am trying to become expertizer) and Luxembourg Occupation First World War 1914-1919 (just exhibited in Sindelfingen/Germany last weekend). I am also coordinating the fight agains forgeries on the German eBay sites for the BDPh (www.bdph.de) for almos two years.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 303 ) on Nov-02-07 at 08:01:53 PDT   Listings
Jimbo

Do you have images of these Hungary stamps?
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 956 ) on Nov-02-07 at 07:35:37 PDT   Listings
Hi All Just finished reading an interesting article in the December issue of "Scott Stamp Monthly" concerning the new 2008 Classic Specialized Catalogue of Stamps and Covers, 1840-1940.

The first paragraph of the article states that this catalogue was considered "the best catalogue in the word, of the world" by a German Philatelic Expert.

Of greater interest to me in this same article is that for the very first time, Scott has listed the Western Hungary overprinted issues from 1921, so I will be ordering a copy of this catalogue today!

Last, but not least, for the collectors of eary France, there is new listing of forerunners for some of the French colonies, particularly Algeria and St. Pierre & Miquelon. Look for town cancels from these two areas on the 1859 to 1896 issues of France.

Jimbo2
Posted by sammlermax1   ( 939 ) on Nov-02-07 at 07:23:48 PDT   Listings
*Coffee time*
*Kaffeezeit*
c\_/
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1418 ) on Nov-02-07 at 06:23:00 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


Richard(heather699)
Welcome to the board.
It’s possible that the stamps were precanceled before they were placed on the tube for mailing. Posting a scan would be a big help in answering your question. Some collectors who specialize in the precancels of a state may be able to give a definitive answer. I do know of at least one example of where the window clerks used a four bar handstamp to cancel sheets of stamps before placing them on the tubes of calendars that an oil company was mailing to their customers. Those examples will have an early December date on them.


Jim L.


member
Posted by djs127   ( 618 ) on Nov-02-07 at 05:58:18 PDT   Listings
Good morning from a chilly Staten Island. Just came back from the post office - was there at 8:25AM and after waiting for a parking spot was in and out with very little wait.
I like the new Star Wars Yoda, Polar Lights, and Alpine Tundra sheets. I also bought a sheet of the new Hanukkah stamps and a roll of 100 stamps for my wife to pay bills.
Now back to work.
David Snyder
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 413 ) on Nov-02-07 at 05:37:50 PDT   Listings
Kelz If you tell us the name of the album and how many albums, that would be very helpful.

Forgery Identification Site

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 502 ) on Nov-02-07 at 05:33:06 PDT   Listings
kelz if you scroll back down this board you will find a Big Yellow Box. There are many links there to assist with the valuation / identification of a stamp collection.
You did not mention which countries were in the albums or how much time and money he put into the collection. Stamps 'accumulated' from the mail / friends / packets over the last 50+ years would have little or no commercial value today. However, if the owner bought collections / single sets from stamp dealers or auction houses then the collection needs to be properly valued.
Good luck with your identifying and let us see some scans of any better, more valuable items.
Remember, what a collection is worth today, is generally reflected in how much was spent on the collection in the past, not necessarily the age of the stamps themselves.
Linda
Posted by kelz_08   ( 6 ) on Nov-02-07 at 05:23:06 PDT   Listings
I have recently inherited 2 stamp collections that look both old and probably somewhat valuable. I know nothing about stamps or what to do with them to store them. Would you please share with me suggestions on how I would go about finding out the stamps origin, worth and value. Thanks you in advance for any suggestions you may offer.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-02-07 at 03:59:00 PDT   Listings
PAOLO -----Don't get so worked up over the postings here ,hope were still friends .Its all done to keep a discussion going and to see different points of view .....off to work got to repair a few streets .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-02-07 at 03:49:13 PDT   Listings
GOOD MORNING from CHICAGO IL USA -----

RAINER ----Agree with you a cert which states a stamp with a favor cancel , is not worth keeping around .Time to throw it in a mixture box and sell it off .

Posted by tomwolf_de   ( 1182 ) on Nov-02-07 at 03:41:46 PDT   Listings
Good morning from Esslingen, Middle-Wurttemberg, Germany
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-02-07 at 03:41:19 PDT   Listings
Good day All

and welcome to the new friends from DE

Posted by claghorn1p   ( 413 ) on Nov-02-07 at 03:19:03 PDT   Listings
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Posted by hangover1   ( 1215 ) on Nov-02-07 at 03:12:48 PDT   Listings
Good morning from Hamburg, Germany.
Posted by buzones   ( 1021 ) on Nov-02-07 at 01:48:33 PDT   Listings
Morsche aus Meenz! :-) (Good morning from Mainz, Germany!) Hallo Rainer & Sascha! Mal sehen, wer hier noch so alles auftaucht... @ll: Thanks for your kind welcome! Bad to hear that this chat will be the next victim of eBay's "pink revolution". :-( Cu
Posted by saschjohn   ( 332 ) on Nov-02-07 at 01:10:10 PDT   Listings
thanks for your warm welcome :)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-02-07 at 00:58:57 PDT   Listings

To all our German friends!
Sorry to hear they closed down the ebay cafe.de
You are invited to make a new home here.

Posted by saschjohn   ( 332 ) on Nov-02-07 at 00:43:58 PDT   Listings
Hello from Wiesbaden
Posted by philaweb   ( 313 ) on Nov-02-07 at 00:40:45 PDT   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!

Mea culpa!

Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 23:53:23 PDT   Listings
Paul -
The catalogue value for the first Swiss airmail stamps is for "flown" stamps which must show dates of actual flights ± a day or so. The Swiss administration over estimated the use of these stamps and I think I remember reading that they overprinted 2.5 million stamps and only used 80,000 correctly, one per airmail letter. As a result there were many unused stamps which were used internally by the PO for accounting purposes. These should not be priced or compared to the catalogues.

The 1881 granite paper Sitting Helvetia's fit into the same category. The were used only a very short time and recalled by th ePO, which later (a few years) sold them to collectors. That is why so many are still today found in mint condition. Cancels for the valuable stamps should have a recognizable date stamp and also compared to known forged date stamps. Every forger added fake cancels to this series.

Favor cancel vs CTO. They are different. Favor cancels are/were invariably placed on hand back items to collectors by post office personnel. Canceled To Order items are invariably canceled by the post authorities for collectors and sometimes are set up to be printed on the presses in black (not even a cancel). CTO's are not favor cancels and vice versa.

The Swiss cancels discussed above are most often on items used internally by the post office department, but not for postage, therefore, not postal cancelations.

Other countries may vary according to one's collecting habits and holes to fill.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by sammlermax1   ( 936 ) on Nov-01-07 at 23:49:42 PDT   Listings
Hello Rainer, the ebay Cafe.de is closed.
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-01-07 at 22:52:26 PDT   Listings
Paul, a certificate who uses the term favor cancel in my eyes is a favor certificate, not worth the paper it is printed on.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 22:29:27 PDT   Listings
stamps12345,
Thanks for labelling me as BS on cancels.
Maybe you do not know whom you are speaking with.
Maybe also somebody else. But who cares.
You and the others, keep your favor cancels, buy it, do as you wish.

Go to expose the pieces in question,
that is a totally different matter.
Much appreciated, and convenient!
It is already time you and somebody else wakes up.

Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 22:17:41 PDT   Listings
GEE------The misinformation on this board is getting thicker ------When did a cancel need a date stamp to be expertisable ,that's pure b.s. many many certs are out there without a clear correct date on used stamps .

Favor cancels is a common term used by many ,try a google search on favor cancels .Its used by many experts to say the same as Cancel-To-Order .....off to bed

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 22:17:21 PDT   Listings
Roger Your detailed response is much appreciated <:~`)
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 21:52:15 PDT   Listings
Mitchell -

PAX - Difficult to tell on the incomplete (smudged, parts missing) cancels. The 10 - 60 all look good. The 80 probably OK. I can see "19" which would be 7pm time of canceling and strange to put on a fake, 1Fr probably not OK, looks like a scrape above the Dove’s head, and the 3Fr good because the cancel is from Ilanz near Chur an unlikely fake cancel.

The Swiss did provide canceled stamps to collectors that never went through the mails. They have full gum and now demand a premium to "used stamp" collectors because they are almost perfect examples. I can't explain it, I just report it. Same situation must be allowed for when collecting high value postage dues, and other early high values which were used internally by the post office. They didn't soak off the gum internally, collectors later soaked the gum and most often broke up the sheets into blocks of 4. Most should have one cancel per stamp, one central cancel on a block of four most certainly is a favor cancel as it was against postal regulations. I don't know when the regulation changed. This is one reason early block of four have significant premuims when having a single cancel, there aren't many.

Notice on the airmail stamps there is a river at the lower right coming from the mountains. The 50 centimes is OK, but the 30 centimes shows the left fork as a single stream, whereas, the 50 centimes shows it is forked as correct. A small and insignificant variety, almost no price differential.

Along those lines - razor cancels are difficult to find. Keep in mind they were only used at the 12 largest post offices, most often one canceler active at a time. So if one clerk was assigned to use it and there were 50 clerks canceling outgoing mail, 1/50th might have razor cancels at any given time at the large offices. At the smaller offices Bellinzona didn’t like it, so didn’t use it, and Aarau seems to have had one clerk who used it all the time. I can almost guarantee that an Aarau card or letter processed between 1901 and 1906 will have a razor cancel on the front or back. Not counting postage due, collect, etc. If you ever see an Aarau from 1898, I’m first in line, OK?

You will find most razor cancels on green 5 centime post cards uses, and red 10 centime internal letter uses. Then most often international blue 25 centimes stamps. Keep in mind they date from 10 October 1898 thorough 1939. Other than the Chur of 1935, I only have 2 items from the 1930’s! After 1912 there was a quick drop in use as machines were introduced to the largest post offices. Again the first offices to receive machines were the largest, which also had used the razor cancelers. There are no other post offices than the 12 district offices that had razor cancelers issued to them.

Paul -
Most Swiss CTO’s are perfect centered legible cancelations. Fakes would be more likely incomplete and illegible. Higher values were used on packages. The internal letter rate was 20 centimes, and the internaitonal rate was 30 centimes. Most on cover uses are contrived philatelic, registered, airmail, etc. attempting to show commercial use. They were on sale for only one year. Don’t ever buy a line perforated high value, it is fake. All this issue were comb perforated. If collectors don’t know the difference they shouldn’t be buying this set!

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by heather699   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 21:36:24 PDT   Listings
It is under gelatin, jello with about 22 hrs. left.

And thanks for the welcome, although I am not a stamp collector, I see a lot while collecting ephemera and have often wondered just how imp. the stamp may be on the item.

I have had a Jamestown expo postcard with a Jamestown centennial stamp and cancellation which was about 40$ or so to expo collectors.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 21:24:35 PDT   Listings
Mitch,
The 1 Fr. bears a FAKE cancel, unfortunately.
The 80 Rp. (likely fake this one too) and the 3 Fr. cancels that are not expertisable as for the CORRECT date in which they were apposed.
Paolo

(PS: for "public culture"
There is not such a thing as a "favor cancel".
This last term has been invented by dishonest stamp dealers.
You can imagine where they came from.
A cancel on a lose stamp or on a cover is either genuine (if impressed during the period of validity of the postage stamp with genuine cancel device/ during a certain rate period) or fake.)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 21:15:24 PDT   Listings
Paul Thanks, that's the one that really looked iffy to me. Doesn't seem to be anything inside the circle and it is doubled in one place.

Heather We talk about that problem quite often (several in the last day). It is a big problem and many people get taken. As for myself it is not a problem because I do not collect covers. If you like, go ahead and show it.
There are several people here that are experts in detecting such bogus items.
By the way, welcome to the stamp chat!

Posted by heather699   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 21:06:59 PDT   Listings
antonius-ra

Thanks for the info. Now I wonder how much more has been manufactured.

Is it ok to make mention of the type of auction for your verification?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 21:06:45 PDT   Listings
MITCH------They all look good but the 1Fr. looks to be a favor or fake cancel .
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 21:00:28 PDT   Listings
Roger or anyone What do think the chances of
these cancels on PAX stamps being authentic?

Also, I have been meaning to ask you why I can't seem to find any razor cancels in my Swiss collection. Do they add more value to the stamp, generally speaking. If so I best
look at all my dupes again.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 20:54:04 PDT   Listings
Last post to Richard aka Heather Previous to that aka 1covers.......
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 20:53:15 PDT   Listings
Richard The "rule of thumb" is that if the cancel is not "tied" to the mailer it is dubious.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 20:51:15 PDT   Listings
Richard I didn't have a 26a in my collection. The emphasis on "didn't <:~`))
Posted by heather699   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 20:49:55 PDT   Listings
where do I go to get info on stamp cancellations and their validity?

I am watching an auction with a stamp on the mailing tube and am wondering if the stamp was original or placed there recently to make the item look older than it is.

It appears the cancellation, if that is indeed what it is is limited soley to the stamp and does not extend to the mailing tube.

Was this a common practice or no, if it can even be answered in this venue.

If not where do I go to get this info./

Thanks, Richard
1
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 20:49:51 PDT   Listings
Rainer -
Funny. I thought I'd go to eBay.de and see if I could find the discussion board for stamps. I went to the home page, clicked "community"and got to "discussion sign-in page". It crashed my Safari browser while loading!!@@!. Been a long time since an eBay page crashed my browser. It used to be sellers who included junk code in their listings. BTW - has anyone noticed the lack of music in auction pages these days? Boy was that a way to turn off customers!

Roger
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-01-07 at 20:17:25 PDT   Listings
Good morning from Abu Dhbi..., as buzones aka Ralf, already mentioned, ebay.de has closed our old board and replaced it with something ugly and more or less unusable.
What is even more annoying is the way the infamous pinkliners have communicated that. They were trying to promote it, and when they received the first criticism they went back hiding in their cave.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1368 ) on Nov-01-07 at 20:06:10 PDT   Listings
Mitchell - Type IIa has frame lines at sides but they stop at top of the horizontal line at top of design. Your copy is weak at right because of worn plate. It is a #26a. Should bring maybe $75 on ebay - use a 600 dpi scan though.
Posted by elpollolobo   ( 1040 ) on Nov-01-07 at 20:01:00 PDT   Listings
Well same message as last night "Technical problem and our people are working on it" Just love change for the sake of change.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:59:38 PDT   Listings
Richard Thanks much for looking! Don't recall mentioning IIa but I'm glad you did. Actually there is barely a trace of the frameline at right.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1418 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:47:09 PDT   Listings
Jim L.

member
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:41:08 PDT   Listings
Latest news on the Iceman ------- TODAY;S NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC....paul
Posted by elpollolobo   ( 1040 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:40:00 PDT   Listings
Who moved my cheeze? Is anyone having problems listing items with future starting dates. Was fine last night till about 10pm. Then kaput. Tech Rep said he was sure they were working on it. Did I miss a notice somewhere.

Mike

Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:35:05 PDT   Listings
We know, we know.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:34:13 PDT   Listings
Ach, the spelling!
Posted by 1covers   ( 1368 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:33:29 PDT   Listings
Mitchell - I am not great when it comes to plating (nor do I care much for that speciality really). I do not see anything to indicate a double transfer - that it is from a worn plate (probably the plate 10 group) rather than poorly printed and in the claret group of shades although can't pin down for sure because of scan color variations and the minor sulphurization. I think that you correctly noted that it is a type IIa with side lines only extending to top.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:31:42 PDT   Listings
David B.,
Just for the record,
absolutely not my field by just for
kind of "accountancy matters",
for this "covor" (could be one of those from the far west, like 'NM' in fact), the seller and buyer exchanged positive feedback.
I was educated, and agreed with you it was probably a fake.

However, due to the long lapse between the two f.b.s, the seller having honsestly left it first (I appreciate these kinds of things) it could also be that byuer and seller reached another agreement which is unkoown to us (without that the seller left a negative in response, in the NM style which I am working to be made ludicrous and 'to avoid' on international scale)
Paolo
Posted by djs127   ( 618 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:30:36 PDT   Listings
Well I never figured out how to have myebay select and sucessfully invoice all 9 lots the buyer from Portugal won from me. Luckilly he just payed me via paypal (don't you love and hate paypal). So its off to the post office Friday.
David Snyder
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:22:16 PDT   Listings
This is as good a synopsis as any.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ötzi_the_Iceman

There ar many other interesting websites that include more detailed information.

I actually think he cut himself and bled to death trying to use the first razor cancel. DeCoppet found the device while on an excusion to the Tirolean Alps in 1883 and it toook him a long time to determine the use of the tool. Prior to this discovery it was not known regular mail was carried over the Alps. It took another 3000 yeras before train tunnels went through the Alps negating hand carried trans-Alp mail. Paolo knows all about this period but keeps this knowledge to himself as it gives him an advantage when bidding on Neolithic Pre-Philatelic letters. They were not folded letters in those days, it took another 1500 years before the invention of the folded letter!! Thought you would like to know. And to the skeptical, I don't make these things up, they are historic fact.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:22:15 PDT   Listings
Richard Thank you and as a matter of fact it was you. I thought perhaps you took offense at that comment a long time back. It was really meant as a compliment.
Here is a better scan of that stamp if you would be so kind to take a look. I got a stock card many years ago with #26 plate flaws etc. I'm listing what I have left of them. Most had notations which accurately described them, this stamp did not. I would think there is something special about it but I don't know what it is.
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:06:05 PDT   Listings
I mentioned a couple of days ago about the proliferation of good Swiss items currently listed on eBay. I have 24 eSnipes set right now!!@@@!! Surely a record of sorts. They are not razor cancels, I don't need 24 more for my exhibit. I like to set eSnipes in advance, even if I don't win I will get some idea of my understanding of the market. If I win, I'll be happy, but the budget will be shot.

Roger
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:03:42 PDT   Listings
Roger

Does that mean the Iceman was a Victim of
mail theft.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 19:02:40 PDT   Listings
ROGER----The Iceman was a hunter and was shot by one of his fellow hunters .
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:56:01 PDT   Listings
Aloha all -
Many of my searches include multilanguage names of towns, and believe it or not, sometimes the difficulty is in discovering the "foreign" name for a town.
Such as Chur = Coire,
Basel = Bale = Basilea,
Geneva = Geneve = Genf = Ginevra,
etc, etc.

For small towns it is almost impossible, as one can't determine which town is being referrred to in the foreign language. Many Swiss cancels actually have bilingual cancels such as Biel/Bienne which is helpful. Was the Ice Man bilingual? He was probably carrying mail across the Alps from Ticino to Innsbruck, that's my theory!

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:44:12 PDT   Listings
Et de hoc satis!

Good continuation,
Paolo
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:43:40 PDT   Listings
Paolo,

thanks,

Roger, the seller should have learnt a little bit of Italian before he described the item and found out what the translation of Citta was. I won't mention Locarno,

David B.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:42:51 PDT   Listings
Mitchell,
First of all, Thank you for your kind posts!
I just read yours before I posted my previous.
I think I know whom you spoke about.
We will see together, easily, how it develops, if there will be any signs of recession from its (neutral, on purpose) own positions, an admittance, a sparkle of friendliness and education...
these last were the major reasons I broke apart from that group some years ago. I simply do not accept the 1$ worth Cow Boy behavior; I can either keep on not accepting it or, due to my magnanimous flexibility (sorry for this egocentric term), go back on my steps.
Somehow, it's a wild card.
I have nothing to lose, though.
And I don't think you have anything to lose either.

All the best,
Paolo
Posted by 1covers   ( 1368 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:42:13 PDT   Listings
Mitchell - Your stamp is not a double transfer as near as I can tell from the smallish scan. Looks like it is a nicer shade, weakly printed, maybe sulphurized.

If your comment was directed at me, I don't remember anything and have no ill will toward you.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:22:15 PDT   Listings
Hi Mitchell and David B.!

I do not know why precisely, but probably because those conglomerates of inhabitants, which then became cities due to their strategical position, were of some commercial importance (or maybe just cultural, in the case of Rome and Florence, leaving out the international harbours of Leghorn, Naples and Venice) for which reason, in the past centuries, it became a habit to call them in the resident (foreign) idiom?

For something different, some little villages (now) in Italy were towns when Rome had yet to be conceived (for instance, yhere was Alba Longa in the neighbourhood, which about 3000 years ago was a town before Rome was built).
Nothing like those in "Switzerland", of course LOL

;-) Hallo!


Good continuation,
Paolo
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:09:51 PDT   Listings
Buzones, you mentioned BETA version, there has been a note from Ebay that Ebay.com is changing to beta version,

David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:09:22 PDT   Listings
Paolo I accused someone here as being "jaded" a year or so ago. I actually meant it as a compliment, guess he didn't take it that way. Unfortunately he is one of the only ones that could have answered a question I put to the board a few hours ago.
I don't get many answers to my questions either. If I got
a phoney I.D., I'd probably do much better.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:07:18 PDT   Listings
BUZONES-----Your welcome to post here and invite all your fellow posters no matter what language you use here with your friends .We just ask that its stamp related .....paul
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:05:25 PDT   Listings
Hi Ralf,

Of course!

Should have specified better.

Hello back to you from Niederlande!

Good night & good continuation!
Paolo
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:02:53 PDT   Listings
Paolo Hi buddy! <:~`))
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:02:15 PDT   Listings
Paolo,

to change the subject,

why do we use the English names Leghorn for Livorno and Florence for Firenze. Most of the names of Italian cities we use in English are very close such as Rome for Roma & Naples for Napoli,

David B.
Posted by buzones   ( 1021 ) on Nov-01-07 at 18:01:23 PDT   Listings
Hello from Germany! Since eBay finally has closed our beloved stamp chat on eBay Germany and gave us an ugly and unusable beta version of it's so called "community" forum I feel a little bit homeless. Hope we all will find a new chatboard elsewhere... Paolo Are you speaking of Dr. Ulrich Ferchenbauer? He is, by the way, not a German but an Austrian expert. Ciao.

Ralf
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:57:00 PDT   Listings
mini-lindy -

No floating link for me at bottom of email. I have my email program (Eudora) set to not accept HTML emails. I read once that in this configuration it requires I actively do something if there is bad stuff within the code. I may be wrong but the only notable effect it has is with companies that load up on graphics within their emails.

There is no item link in the email sent to me, only a link to pay for the item. Here’s the email minus the “pay her” link:

“Hi Roger,
Congratulations on winning this item! The next step is to pay the seller.

=================================================================
Pay for it
Pay here link blah blah blah.....
=================================================================

Item name: Switzerland 1881 mourning cover, Logarno to Cetta
Sale price: $12.99
Shipping & Handling: US Postal Service First Class Mail $2.00

BTW - (another philatelic question concerning this item) What is wrong with the description and title? (2 errors)

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:47:31 PDT   Listings
I would suggest???

You know few about stamps in general, turtle head man, take my word for it! Do not provoke me any further.
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:45:29 PDT   Listings
Send a mail to Ferchenbilder (AIEP) expert,
we'll see what you get back,
but you have to write it in Italian,
with a slight intonation from the region Lombardy (an enormous variety of accents and different dialects) OR the so-called (by kroots & uninitiated) Venetia, it is Veneto (!!!). In Region Veneto there are many dialects and intonations, probably as many as my stamps of that region in my books!!!
If it had been in my power, I would have banned the afore mentioned expert to having anything to do with philately of Lombardo-Veneto!

I will cut (- KUT -) it short, not to step on too many toes (But I could).
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:32:26 PDT   Listings
I would suggest we stay on the subject of stamps .Languages have no place of respect with me ,I could careless .
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:22:00 PDT   Listings
And, I would suggest to pay DEEP respect for people who can speak fluently (not chatty-bablefish-nutty) at least four languages. This can create some confusion in the head, however.
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:16:31 PDT   Listings
It is just required you concentrate, and try to perform a decent ENGLISH idiom here! OK?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:13:06 PDT   Listings
fell -off
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:12:18 PDT   Listings
fell -of- my -chair -----------I can't speak the 160 languages of all the countries I collect-------
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:11:30 PDT   Listings
I have about 20 of those used stamps, so...
Nicely centered cancel,
but very poor margins!
HALLO!
Paolo
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Nov-01-07 at 17:07:01 PDT   Listings
NEW READERS ----That extremely rare stamp comes in three major shades ,The shade in the other scan is hard to find.But here is a copy from my collection with a nice s-o-n cancel in the more common shade.The Fournier forgeries are on a paler dull blue color with hard to define features ,i've got two of them also SARDINA #5 .....paul
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 16:56:05 PDT   Listings
Since a few of the German experts (in philately) proved to be very nasty with this general Issue,
(as I communicated to one board member, who apperas to be rather volatile):
There are no valid excuses if you collect these stamps and you cannot read Italian!

Just semi-serious on my part - fortunately,
Paolo (I am known for it, and I know I can be much nastier if I want, though)
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 16:34:11 PDT   Listings
David B.
As a between brackets,,
here is the thread about that extremely rare stamp.

Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 16:22:06 PDT   Listings
P.P.S.>
as far as defective copies of scarce stamps are concerned,
this is from an acquaintance of mine, a Doctor in Medicine (In Italy).
I guarantee it is what he says it is, from direct experience with this rare Issue (we're speaking of less than 10000 pieces around).
Let us see, for curiosity, at how much (like the Japanese say), will it close.
Not satisfied, Paolo will give you full refund (If you send him the stamp by insured mail!).
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by macbearin   ( 728 ) on Nov-01-07 at 16:13:49 PDT   Listings
1COVERS Thanks for the info on both auctions
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 15:57:07 PDT   Listings
... and a very good continuation to ALL
(I am going to stay up for a "while" longer, have some questions and generosity to answer in other places of the internet),
Yours sincerely, Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 15:49:16 PDT   Listings
Hello Richard ,
I hope everything is fine wiuth you and yours in Taos!
My dear friend of my early externations on this board.
Water under the bridge? I pray (an beg) for it.
Yours (as you always must have known),
with devotion,
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by 1covers   ( 1368 ) on Nov-01-07 at 15:13:39 PDT   Listings
typo - "not a reprint or a forgery"
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Nov-01-07 at 15:13:11 PDT   Listings
Beat to the punch by Richard F.!!!

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Nov-01-07 at 15:12:23 PDT   Listings
macbearin… Scott is (as usual) very unhelpful as to how to tell the difference between the original and the reprint. They include a paragraph admitting there were reprints, and they can be told apart by retouches and color, then direct the hapless collector elsewhere to find details. It would have been simpler to show an image or two, but apparently Scott didn’t have the time or inclination.

On another note, the stamp in this auction of yours was not printed in a different color, its red-orange ink has sulphuretted owing to exposure to air. If you dip the stamp in hydrogen peroxide it will magically return to its original color.

Jim
Posted by 1covers   ( 1368 ) on Nov-01-07 at 15:09:29 PDT   Listings
macbearin - The $2 Pony stamp you have listed now on ebay is genuine. It is not a reprint of a forgery.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 502 ) on Nov-01-07 at 15:03:25 PDT   Listings
Roger I agree the new YOU WON... Wowweeeeee, how victorious, what a hooot this eBaying is.... type email with gallery photo of item etc. is over the top, and I too would prefer the you won item #1234567...
It's all part of this LETS MAKE EBAYING FUN, attitude, which unfortunately is happening everywhere,not just on eBay, in shopping centers too, I don't want fun, excitement, music, clowns and balloons in the shop, I want my GROCERIES, plain and simple.

Back to eBay, I found if I hold my mouse over the link to the eBay item in the email the item number shows in the little blue bar on the bottom of my screen (if that helps).

There is a wonderful series of UK programmes on TV at present
GRUMPY OLD MEN and GRUMPY OLD WOMEN, chatting about what they hate in Britain at present. (catch it on cable TV if you can).


grumpy-not-so-old Linda
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 14:17:11 PDT   Listings
Aoha -
I just won an auction and the email was one of eBay's finest titled - "YOU WON". We discussed this a few weeks ago, but most of my items come from Europe and it seems they weren't using the new format. I guess they are now!!

The most incredible aspect is the lack of item number in the body of the email from eBay!!@@@!!

What the heck are the people in charge thinking? Who approved the deletion of item number in email title and also within the body of the end of auction. Maybe the numbers are so long, the servers don't have storage for the item number.

Roger
Posted by macbearin   ( 728 ) on Nov-01-07 at 14:05:35 PDT   Listings
i just put up a 143L4 $2 green pny express however i see in Scott catologue that there was a reprint of the stamp in 1897 can anyone tell me how to tell if mine is original or not?????
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 13:43:14 PDT   Listings
Due2 Thanks so much. I wish I could find a hinged one. The diff in price is crazy to me (over 5 times). It's the only single stamp I'm missing in the German semis (need 3 SS's though). Hard to find singles from sets. Of course it is "philatelic truth" to always buy complete sets if possible.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-01-07 at 13:20:59 PDT   Listings
Ant RA

2007 Sct B77 MNH $43.00
Posted by lou4cards   ( 460 ) on Nov-01-07 at 12:23:27 PDT   Listings
Thanks for the hinge info. Sever years ago I brought a box that had 6 unopened Dennison RWB and one green pack. Some were prefolded others not. I brought some prefolded in a yellow pack about a year ago for my grand daughter. They were hard to work with. She then started using my old Dennison. Guess I'll buy some new Dennisen for grand daughter and some old Dennison for myself.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 12:12:57 PDT   Listings
Ooops that was the wrong image. try this one
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 12:11:27 PDT   Listings
Can anyone tell me if this U.S. No. 26 is a double transfer or what?

Anyone have a current Scott cat value for Germany B77 mint
Posted by jsbmsma   ( 8447 ) on Nov-01-07 at 11:57:06 PDT   Listings
JIMBO - Thank you for the great information. I will get them put up for auction this evening...
Posted by jimbo   ( 415 ) on Nov-01-07 at 11:47:15 PDT   Listings
Malolo,
He, he, he, it's nice to have my genius recognized! ;-) (It's also nice to have copy of Towle and Meyer which makes it easy to be a catalogue-queen! - So there!!)

Correction:
I think the green and black packages of Dennison's hinges lend themselves better to the cheapskate's economy measure of cutting them in half!

jimbo (much too soon old, and much too late schmart)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Nov-01-07 at 11:44:35 PDT   Listings
Has anyone else had this problem. I've spent the morning listing auction using Turbo lister. All of the sudden it says it has a problem and has to close. When I open it back up all my new listings have dissapeared including the few I uploaded last night. I really don't like listing in the first place but this really bites the bag.
Have the gone somewhere in the program I might not be seeing?
Posted by jimbo   ( 415 ) on Nov-01-07 at 11:41:24 PDT   Listings
Bill and Pro,
I believe the principal difference between the red, white, and blue packages and the green and black packages of Dennison's hinges is that the RWB ones are a 'new, improved' version which are somewhat smaller, without rounded corners, and prefolded. I think they lend themselves better to the cheapskate's economy measure of cutting them in half! ;-)

jimbo
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 11:31:54 PDT   Listings
jimbo (the code breaker) -

Great answer! I thought the question along the lines of a mathematical question. I love it when I read certain catalogues of cancels, etc, where the writer has created his own coded system but seems unintelligable to me. Must be the reason I never have been able to memorize details.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 11:28:08 PDT   Listings
jsbmsma -

Your question is just the kind of question this board thrives on. We have collectors, artists, and mathematicians. We also have Code Breakers, they'll be around later today, so you may need to wait until they appear.

A scan of the stamp (cancel) may be helpful.

NOIP -
I have more items on my watch list (35) than ever before. Items are coming out of the woodwork, or attics, as the case may be.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by jimbo   ( 415 ) on Nov-01-07 at 11:26:36 PDT   Listings
jsbmsma,
There was an RPO which ran from Newport, Vermont, to Springfield, Massachusetts, which used several CDS with NEW & SPRING in them. I haven't found a CDS which had only NEW but did find one with NEWP. The RPO ran on 6 different railroads which made up the route through Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, and back to Vermont.

The RICH.&SPRING.R.P.O. CDS is also from this same area but probably from a route running from Newport to Richford to St. Albans, Vermont. RICH. is for Richford, Vermont - a small town on the middle of the Vermont/Canadian border west of Newport. Apparently during one period an RPO route went from Richford to Springfield.

There was a B. & N. Y. marking for a Boston and New York RPO which ran from Boston to Springfield over the Boston and Albany and then down to New York over the New York, New Haven, and Hartford.

All of these marking were in the 1880s. They may have been used at other times. See Railroad Postmarks of the United States 1861-1886 Towle and Meyer, for details.
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on Nov-01-07 at 10:55:18 PDT   Listings
due2cents the red, white and blue packages (such as the one in this auction) are good. The green, white and black packages (such as the one in this auction) I don't know about, but I don't think they are as good.

Bill D.
Posted by jsbmsma   ( 8447 ) on Nov-01-07 at 10:30:40 PDT   Listings
can any one tell me about the 3 listed rpo's>
new & spring ; rich & spring; and b (or r) and n (or ny) ?

in advance = tyvm
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-01-07 at 10:28:39 PDT   Listings
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Nov-01-07 at 10:09:49 PDT   Listings
Did someone experienced a weird behavior when using paypal these days?
I got a mail from a buyer who wrote:
QUOTE:
I just went to send you a payment for the items that I won from you at ebay, but the paypal site said that I was about to send insecure information. Therefore I don't feel comfortable using paypal for this transaction.
UNQUOTE
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-01-07 at 09:37:34 PDT   Listings
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-01-07 at 09:22:40 PDT   Listings
WRD3

How can you tell
I have some mixed boxes of old new stock
is there a color to look for
in pkg
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on Nov-01-07 at 09:20:25 PDT   Listings
lou4cards there are no hinges on the market today even close to the quality of the old Dennison hinges. Dennis' Hinges (as recommended by billsey) are reasonably good for used stamps, but even these hinges aren't pealable like the old Dennison hinges. If you want/need truely pealable hinges, find someone with Dennison to sell, or keep an eye out on eBay. I haven't bought in a few years, but at the time they were going for about $10 per package. I personally use Dennison for stamps that catalog over a dollar or two and Dennis' or other modern hinges of steel for the cheapies.

Bill D.
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-01-07 at 09:19:06 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all

Michel

Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-01-07 at 09:17:20 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all

Michel

aaa
Posted by billsey   ( 853 ) on Nov-01-07 at 08:47:26 PDT   Listings
Good Morning Michel, I hope you are feeling fine today.
Posted by billsey   ( 853 ) on Nov-01-07 at 08:46:42 PDT   Listings
lou4cards, you might look into Dennis' Hinges from Subway. They're supposed to be nearly as good as the original Dennison's, at least for used stamps. I use the old 'hinges of steel' like Dennisen's (note the 'e') myself, but that's because I'm hinging mounts, not the stamp directly.
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Nov-01-07 at 08:37:25 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all

Michel

Posted by lluehhhb   ( 303 ) on Nov-01-07 at 07:38:31 PDT   Listings
AJ-GORY

The German international letter rate up to 20g was 25pf, fixed on 1.1.1935

So due2cents was correct.
Posted by lou4cards   ( 460 ) on Nov-01-07 at 07:34:19 PDT   Listings
Good morning..
Our supply of the good old Dennidon Hinges are running low. Should we wait ang pick some up on E-bay or is there another brand that I might try. My drand daughter goes through them like they were candy.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 06:22:31 PDT   Listings
P.S.: that friend of mine I just quoted,
manifested to me his desire to start to collect the Cantonals of Switzerland; he asked me about those, but to my inexperience I couldn't give him any orientation, if not to purchase that book on early Swiss stamps, with colour plates, etc., that was recently sold on eBay for about 1600 Euro (I stopped to about 1000).
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Nov-01-07 at 06:14:09 PDT   Listings
David B.,

Indeed, of Sardinia 2nd Issue 20 cents (it's a #5 in various cat.), that one is probably one amongst the nicest mint singles there are around, at least the nicest I have ever seen, with sheet margin at right(I presume that various certificates, of different ages, accompany that postage stamp).

I heard this thing of 'trimming for balancing' by a dear friend of mine, who collects Tuscany Gems (preferably on cover, those that show 8 portions of the neighbouring stamps -- he's got a '60 crazie' and a '1 soldo' of II Issue, both used, in similar although a little lesser, conditions; these two are the most difficult to be found in SPL/Superb/Extra quality); I am perplexed by it.
It was also a practice of the late Bolaffi
I would certainly not touch it, or alter it from its present condition, by any mean.

Paolo

Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 134 ) on Nov-01-07 at 05:40:24 PDT   Listings
A slight correction on the Field Post Office postal card it should have read Field Post Office No. 9, sorry.
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 134 ) on Nov-01-07 at 05:38:04 PDT   Listings
I have a postal card with a Field Post Station No. 8 Circular Stamp and I was told this Field Post Station was at PEITHAHO. This card was mailed what I suppose was the 1901 Boxer Rebellion, could someone give me more of a background on this Field Post Station.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 413 ) on Nov-01-07 at 04:26:19 PDT   Listings
Roger They are using a dual Quad core intel running the latest update of Vista 64 and 8 gigabytes of RAM. They are connected via Gigabit Ethernet to a switch connected in house by a 10 Gigabit Fibre connection directly to the server with a ping unmeasurable below a millisecond. Of course it takes less than a second to load.

I am running Safari on OS 9 on my 9500 and my dial up connectionis a bit slower. ;-)
Posted by coinjester   ( 115 ) on Nov-01-07 at 04:22:34 PDT   Listings
Good morning.
Antonius-ra: Thank you.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1418 ) on Nov-01-07 at 04:18:38 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

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Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Nov-01-07 at 03:38:39 PDT   Listings
Good Day for Stampa
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 01:24:42 PDT   Listings
"ominouse" This is computerese for ominous and my fingers are sore from lifting bags for six hours yesterday. Automation has yet to come to Kona!
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Nov-01-07 at 01:22:25 PDT   Listings
I must say there is a certain businesslike approach to the bidding pattern I linked to earlier.

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=110184797213

An exceptional find, indeed! It’s all about quality, at least this is only missing all four corners!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Switzerland-Helvetia-40c-franco-stamp-1862-USED_W0QQitemZ230186625878

NOIP -
Yes, new sign-in page and these redirect directions to "click here if not directed to new page within 1 second" are ominouse. I believe "The Second" has been stretched by webmasters to include up to 10 seconds. Rarely do I get referred within the time stated. If a page says " click here if not directed in 5 seconds", one can be certain it will take 1-15 seconds. And of course, if one gets a little impatient and clicks on the darn link, the timing starts all over again. LOL So much for having fast computers. I guess the new fastests computers use slower seconds.

Roger
Posted by wsueturner   ( 0 ) on Nov-01-07 at 01:05:56 PDT   Listings
due2cents,

I have no idea. These are stamps that are from countries that are no longer countries any longer to stamps from the good old USA. They are in a Stamp book has he learned how to collect them he place them in a pouch inplace od sealing them to the book. If you would like I can take some pictures and email them to you I don't know how to load them in ebay has of yet.

Thanks
Posted by sammlermax1   ( 936 ) on Oct-31-07 at 23:35:00 PDT   Listings
Good morning to all from the nice Austrian Country.:-)

Volcano 170160993607
Posted by bjornmu   ( 949 ) on Oct-31-07 at 23:25:25 PDT   Listings
Rich, since nobody's rep[lied yet: you Cyrillic reads "RUSSKAYA GRIVEN" and I would place a J after the last N but I don't know if that's correct. Anyway, it clearly means Russian something.

The other text means "Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes", which would later be named Yugoslavia.
Posted by billsey   ( 853 ) on Oct-31-07 at 21:53:38 PDT   Listings
Speaking of dubious covers, what do people think of this?
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-31-07 at 21:36:25 PDT   Listings
see you in morning

we had a nice Halloween

hope you and your's did.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-31-07 at 21:25:00 PDT   Listings
AJ-GORY

The postage due rate

Shown is 5 centimes

equal to 1/2 english penny
I think for stamp purposes
nothing less any way

Which means the Postage Should have been
25 Pf when the envelope shows 24


Which in my mind seems just about normal

But then again
I have mainly US Due items in my boxes/
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 21:12:03 PDT   Listings
Danielag Many world collectors have regretted not stopping their collection at 1940. It also makes it nice because a Scott Classic specialized catalog will have them all in the one volume. You do however miss the WWII years which you can extend a few countries to accomadate.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 413 ) on Oct-31-07 at 21:09:13 PDT   Listings
Daniel I agree. Get some good books and specialize in something. The more you learn, the more you can find something special which others miss. The fun is then in the hunt and not in how much was spent.
Posted by danielag9841   ( 79 ) on Oct-31-07 at 21:07:39 PDT   Listings
Thank You
Working on Classics 19th cent have a sizeable collection and expense. trying to figure out some sort of a filing folder to keep dups and records for
Have Stamp inventory program for computer but I have dups of many of my stamps and want a handy book with small labels under stamp IE dealers shop showcase items to keep my extras in hate to put them side x side in album have Scotts Minuteman.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 21:04:52 PDT   Listings
Danielag Welcome to the stamp chat. Unfortunately there is only one cure.........DEATH!!!
We all suffer from your fate. If you stick around you will find helpful hints on how to live with it.
My first suggestion is to get books (like Scott specialties)
that have all the major number spaces. It will save you time
in the future by not having to transfer. You can buy used pages on ebay or dealers that have many of the stamps already on them for less than new pages.
Start with one country at a time and get it workable. Make up a needlist for each country when you get it workable.

The World of Stamps
Posted by aj-gory   ( 178 ) on Oct-31-07 at 21:00:26 PDT   Listings
For a postage due calculation, can any "reader" please help me with the foreign letter rate from Germany in February 1939 (Ebay item #150175534651)?
Many Thanks Allan
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 20:58:54 PDT   Listings
Bill The only two items I can see clearly seem to match the genuine. Slanted "I" and "C" not touching.
Can't make out much more from that guys scan. No matter it's dust in the wind to me. I should just go make a scan from an auction catalog and print it out. Some day I can get big bucks for it if there is still any righteousness in the world.
Posted by danielag9841   ( 79 ) on Oct-31-07 at 20:55:16 PDT   Listings
Hi,
I have been collecting about 4 years but my collection amasses more than I can think of. I have the collecting BUG BAD I would like ideas on what would work for me, since I think I have to have every Jewel out there. Does anyone have a workable budget or idea to slow down my buying?
Any ideas would be great
Thank You
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 413 ) on Oct-31-07 at 20:44:12 PDT   Listings
Mitchell It does not look good to me. Just look at my web page. The 1 and 3 cent used the same die except the value tablet.

Forgery Identification Site

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 20:40:47 PDT   Listings
Conjester
1. Great Britain 1902 Scott 132
2. Great Britain 1902 Scott 127
Even if they were in good condition (which they are far from) they would not be worth the listing fees.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 20:28:27 PDT   Listings
Is it 10 cent listing day?
I just went to upload 3 lots with turbo lister and it said my total was 30 cents!
Posted by coinjester   ( 115 ) on Oct-31-07 at 20:11:51 PDT   Listings
Hello.
Need some help.
Catalogue number, year, country, and value (if any).
Thank you.
Click here and here.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Oct-31-07 at 19:52:56 PDT   Listings
Mitch, it looked like a spacefiller to be used until a spacefiller was acquired.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Oct-31-07 at 19:52:04 PDT   Listings
Paolo,

Nice looking Sardinia,

There was a comment last week on another chat by a well known dealer (but not known well) regarding margins being lopsides and suggested that a large margin should be trimmed to make the stamp more balanced which would make it easier to sell.


David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 19:40:19 PDT   Listings
Dragon Yep, somebody did not take much time putting back together. I was going to soak it and reassemble, thinking it would not be very noticeable. It would also be a canidate to send in for repairs. If I had a valuable damaged painting I would do the same. I was looking at .74%
and felt good about the stamps authenticity.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 491 ) on Oct-31-07 at 19:14:11 PDT   Listings
A better repair, and a better end time for the auction, and I'm sure it would have gotten a better price.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 491 ) on Oct-31-07 at 19:12:27 PDT   Listings
Wow, that Spain #18 should be repaired again I think.
Yuck. 1%.
The 2nd bidder was bidding on a % basis. I wonder what the top bidder had for a ceiling? Ah, we'll probably never know.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 19:10:40 PDT   Listings
Well, it went for about $20 more than I was willing to go. If I would have got it, it would have filled a space and I'm confident I could have always get my money back out of it. It is unlikely, I will ever get one.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 491 ) on Oct-31-07 at 18:55:24 PDT   Listings
Roger: Sometimes when two people are fighting, it's best to stand clear.
Posted by poppadawg   ( 756 ) on Oct-31-07 at 18:38:59 PDT   Listings
dbenson: No, they are not listed in Scott's. That was one reason I asked. Thanks for the additional information.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1704 ) on Oct-31-07 at 18:19:22 PDT   Listings
Ignore the "...for a..."
That was a result of moving sentence parts around and not proofing the final.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1704 ) on Oct-31-07 at 18:17:17 PDT   Listings
NOIP: A removal system for unfair feedback to get trial run for a in the UK.

http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html

Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Oct-31-07 at 18:16:08 PDT   Listings
Correction:

"I do like the old spelling if Interlaken as Jinterlaken."
I do like the old spelling of Interlaken as Jnterlaken.

Back into my hole.
No comment on ugly stamps.
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Oct-31-07 at 18:13:52 PDT   Listings
Michel -
Looks like you won the competition. )'>)

Bjorn is back after hunting mushrooms, and he may have been the only other person to use a "J" after a consonant. I do like the old spelling if Interlaken as Jinterlaken. The old German writing used the letter "j" and I believe only stated using the letter "I" at the end of the 19th century.

Glad to see the improvement.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Oct-31-07 at 18:06:14 PDT   Listings
Paul, you are presuming it is genuine, there are 100's of types of forgeries of that stamp, it may be one of those. It would have to be certified (only by a Spanish expert) then it could be used as a reference,

David B.
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Oct-31-07 at 18:02:05 PDT   Listings
fjord

Michel

Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:59:20 PDT   Listings
Is it a river or a fjord?

Michel
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:52:53 PDT   Listings
Mitch, found it, it is one hell of an ugly stamp,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:52:15 PDT   Listings
Mitch----That stamp should be purchased by a person who wants to be a expertizer and used as a reference copy .
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:46:23 PDT   Listings
Paul Not bad, I thought the bar cancel reference might make it to easy.
Thanks alot for sharing <:~(
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:43:19 PDT   Listings
Michel Greetings back to you! Hope you are well!!!

Does anyone have a recent cat price for a U.S #26 74r25
double plate flaw, used.
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:38:16 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all

Michel





Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1418 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:35:53 PDT   Listings
Jim L.

member
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:31:52 PDT   Listings
SPAIN #18
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:30:00 PDT   Listings
Handyman Welcome to the stamp chat. Thanks for the nice write up but I doubt to many here would go with those mounts. They are to hard to mount and make the stamp nearly impossible to check without destroying the mount and then damaging the page when replacing it. They also tend to squeeze the stamp. Unless you cut at least two edges of the mount the stamps don't like to come out and it is also easy to damage the stamp while cutting the mount which is to close to the stamp.
Someone trying to sell their collection with these type of mounts containing valuable stamps is going to have a hard sell.
The World of Stamps
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:21:42 PDT   Listings
Bob Well it's a major number under #20, there is one sub # with slight color variation which cats for $500 more. Unfortunately this stamp was not available with bar cancels which like revenue cancels make a lot of those big dogs affordable.
Posted by rclwa   ( 976 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:13:55 PDT   Listings
Mitch -- I'd think a major factor might be whether it is the only variety, or other face similar versions exist. If it's a $6000 stamp that no others look like, still quite interesting, but if it's because of a rare watermark or flyspeck difference from a much cheaper stamp, I'd not be so excited about it.

Bob in WA
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 17:09:58 PDT   Listings
I maybe seeing things but is there a brand new sign in page for the chat?

Billsey Yep, me to. Usually they are cheap stamps not worth the time removing from the mounts (which are a total pain). If your looking at a collection with lots of valuable stamps are you just to assume the backs must be good or the collector would not have spent that much time.
They are not for me, I would not by a lot or collection again incased in those things.
Posted by malolo   ( 860 ) on Oct-31-07 at 16:56:38 PDT   Listings
Aloha -
Here's an auction I saw earlier in the week and tought it would look really nice on a page in my exhibit, but now the two maxi-card collectors have started against each other and on previous items have pushed prices up way more than I need the card! LOL If I bid against them and won, at least I know there are two people inthe world who will pay anything for good looking maxi-cards.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=110184797213

Roger
Posted by richintalent   ( 145 ) on Oct-31-07 at 16:53:34 PDT   Listings
I need help in translating the following from Cyrillic:

PyCCKA backwards 'R'

Upside down 'L' 'P' backwards 'N' BEHb

and the following language:
'KRALJEVSTVO SRBA, HRVATA I SLOVENADA'
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 491 ) on Oct-31-07 at 16:47:59 PDT   Listings
On a $6000 spacefiller... That's a rare stamp.
I think it would go for 2% at least. $200 maybe.
It greatly depends how many people are aware of it(the auction), and if 2 people really want it, of course.
I'm very interested in a stamp half that catalog price, and I've missed on $100 bids. And way too low, on some of them!!!!!!!

Posted by oggilby   ( 1238 ) on Oct-31-07 at 16:24:34 PDT   Listings
Well the gremlins & goblins have started to arrive. Lots of Jack Sparrows this year!
Posted by billsey   ( 853 ) on Oct-31-07 at 16:22:48 PDT   Listings
I've taken stamps out of those types of mounts, handyman. :-)
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-31-07 at 16:21:31 PDT   Listings
Mitchell,
Looking forward to see what it is and how much it fetched.
I wish you get it!

For something different, somebody (Ale) on another board about 3 hours ago (when I saw it and thought about a reply) showed me this, which in mint condition and very well preserved as it is, and not one of the crappy forgeries offered in the 'far west', is worth about twice as much as 6000 US dollars.

Paolo
Posted by handyman8retired   ( 4 )   on Oct-31-07 at 16:16:13 PDT   Listings
MOUNTING STAMPS USING A THERMAL IMPULSE SEALER
1. Select a stamp tube mount tube that is sized for the stamp to be mounted. Refer to the diagrams below for samples of sealed mounts.
2. Place the stamp on top of the stamp mount with the gummed side of the mount at the top or left-hand side of the stamp. Trim the open end of the stamp mount to a length that extends 4-6 mm beyond the length or height of the stamp. This provides an adequate margin for both heat sealed edges of the mount.
3. Separate the stamp from the mount and crease the stamp halfway along the gummed edge of the mount.
4. Cut off a triangular piece of the gummed strip 1/3 of the way down the gummed area at a 45 degree angle. Flatten out the mount to its original shape. This creates a “V”-notch in the mount that allows the stamp to breath once sealed. NOTE: The seal is NOT a vacuum seal.
5. With the gummed surface of the mount facing to the rear, using stamp tongs, slide the stamp right-side up into the tube mount. Leave an excess margin beyond the stamp at both ends of the tube mount to accommodate the width of the seal. Always slide the stamp snug against the inside of the gummed edge of the mount. Be careful not to fold any of the corners or perforations of your stamp, when you are inserting it into the mount. You are now ready to seal the stamp mount.
6. Seal the stamp mount along as many edges as necessary to capture the stamp. NOTE: Do not seal along the gummed edge of the mount.
7. Trim any excess tube mount material outside the seal lines. Be certain you are careful not to cut the perforations of your stamp.
8. The preference here is not to moisten the adhesive strip of the stamp mount, but to apply a tiny “Hershey-shaped” drop (O) of tacky glue to the two upper (or left side) corners of the stamp mount atop the adhesive strip of the stamp mount. By controlling the size of the glue droplet, stamps can be lifted from the album page at a later date with very little harm to the album pages. NOTE: Be sure the nozzle of the glue dispenser is clear of any glue reside before squeezing out the glue droplets or you may have a lapful of glue on your hands.
9. Align and press the mount firmly into its place in your album, tacky glue-side down. NOTE: The tacky glue allows a few seconds for you to slide the stamp mount into its final position before the glue sets.
10. Repeat this procedure with the other stamps in your collection, and you will have a nice, properly mounted, stamp album featuring stamps that are protected and held in place no matter their shape and size.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Oct-31-07 at 15:21:49 PDT   Listings
Mitch, like I said, it would all depend on what it is. Spacefillers of rare items are collectable and do have some value,

will be interested to know what it is when the item is sold,

David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 14:36:10 PDT   Listings
Paolo & D2 I would tend to agree with Poalo that it has some value. $6,000 stamps don't come along everyday and I don't recall ever seeing this one. It is a major number from a Western European country. Auction ends in a few hours and it already has 5 different bidders. I doubt my snipe will be enough. I'll show it after it ends.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Oct-31-07 at 14:34:10 PDT   Listings
poppa, no, they wer a regular Cretan issue. They should be listed in Scott's under Crete. Yours are not the originals but unauthorised printings which were made later,

David B.
Posted by poppadawg   ( 756 ) on Oct-31-07 at 13:44:33 PDT   Listings
dbenson: Thank you. Are these the so-called Revolutionary stamps?
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-31-07 at 13:43:31 PDT   Listings
P.S. Because, with "no missing pieces" I could put it back together in a way I like it (and probably also somebody else).
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 502 ) on Oct-31-07 at 13:37:33 PDT   Listings
wsueturner if you scroll back down this board you will find a Big Yellow Box. There are many links there to assist with the valuation / identification of a stamp collection.

You did not mention which countries your husband specialized in, or how much time and money he put into the collection. Stamps 'accumulated' from the mail / friends / packets over the last 50 years would have little or no commercial value today. However, if he bought collections / single sets from stamp dealers or auction houses then the collection needs to be properly valued.
Good luck with your identifying and let us see some scans of any better, more valuable items.
Remember, what a collection is worth today, is generally reflected in how much was spent on the collection in the past.

Linda
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-31-07 at 13:32:02 PDT   Listings
Mitchell,
"How much might one bid on a used stamp with good margins that catalogs for $6,000 and has been torn in half? Lokks like everything is there (no missing pieces) "
(emphasis is mine)

Was it an Italian States stamp: 60 US dollars.
Was it a classic Swiss stamp: 100 US dollars.

Likely a US stamp could realize more.

IMHB (in my honest bid), Paolo
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Oct-31-07 at 13:28:12 PDT   Listings
Mitch, It would be impossibile to answer unless I knew which stamp you were referring to. There is a remote chance that it may be of some value if it was a popular item but in most cases it would just be pair of untied bisects used as spacefillers,

David B.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-31-07 at 13:25:26 PDT   Listings
Test (bella la testa!):


Paolo
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Oct-31-07 at 12:59:02 PDT   Listings
Ant-Ra… If I remember correctly, that’s the kind of flaw that PSE, in their fault-rating system, considers fatal, in the sense that such an item is not worth anything.

Personally I think any stamp of which there are fewer than 5 copies known might deserve to survive in that condition, however the value would be micro-minimal, perhaps one-thousandth of what a sound copy would fetch.

Just MHO, of course…

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Oct-31-07 at 12:53:51 PDT   Listings
due2… Ya gotta watch those gnomes every second. Don't let those smiles fool ya...

Jim
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-31-07 at 12:27:52 PDT   Listings
Jaywwild

The Gnomes just caught one

Little_one
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 644 ) on Oct-31-07 at 12:21:25 PDT   Listings
NOIP: A question of curiousity.
How much might one bid on a used stamp with good margins that catalogs for $6,000 and has been torn in half? Lokks like everything is there (no missing pieces)
Posted by dbenson   ( 8661 ) on Oct-31-07 at 12:03:40 PDT   Listings
poppadawg,

they are unofficial reprints of Crete 1905 set of 6,

David B.
Posted by deckelmouk   ( 1293 ) on Oct-31-07 at 11:50:01 PDT   Listings
Bongswar tout le monde!
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:47:35 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Talk about “scary, scary boys and girls”, here is The New Yorker’s take on a truly scary pumpkin…



Jim
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:46:51 PDT   Listings
Roger, ;-)
Ach, and I that thought it was in one year!
Anyway, 2008 is a bunch of hours (11?) closer for me than for you (unless you move) ;-)
Good continuation,
Paolo
Posted by knuden   ( 2386 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:44:12 PDT   Listings
Blush. Yes this:



I wonder if I ever will learn it. :O) Thanks Bjornmu

K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by knuden   ( 2386 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:41:06 PDT   Listings
How come this command "http://chatboards.ebay.com" comes in front of Michels gif link each time I try to show it. It works when I try before I write it here. What do I do now???

K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by bjornmu   ( 949 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:40:25 PDT   Listings
Knuden, you mean this? I think you had forgotten http://.
Posted by knuden   ( 2386 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:37:38 PDT   Listings
Hmmmmm. It looks like this board are making fun with me. I try again in another way this

K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by knuden   ( 2386 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:32:22 PDT   Listings
Oooooops!! This?



K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by knuden   ( 2386 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:30:49 PDT   Listings
Mendelbrot - Greeting Michel.
Is this the image you are trying to show?



So far I can see, there is a href too much in your html command. :O)

K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:24:53 PDT   Listings
Turner

How much did he "Invest in his collection"

Describe the first Stamp you find when you open it to the front.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 949 ) on Oct-31-07 at 10:05:48 PDT   Listings
raff-postal, the mushrooms have to be either dried thoroughly (which I do with the first), or frozen (which I do with the second ones). Unprepared mushrooms don't last very long.
Posted by wsueturner   ( 0 ) on Oct-31-07 at 08:38:03 PDT   Listings
I have a book of Stamps that my husband had started collecting when he was 12 or 13. He is 60 years old now. Where can I go to get a general price on them?
Posted by 220man   ( 161 ) on Oct-31-07 at 08:35:24 PDT   Listings
poppadawg: Greece, I think.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-31-07 at 08:00:19 PDT   Listings
Well it brings up this

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/1-APAXMH-1976-GRECIA_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ110163867759
Posted by poppadawg   ( 756 ) on Oct-31-07 at 07:43:43 PDT   Listings
NOIP: Could anyone tell me where these stamps are from?
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Oct-31-07 at 07:00:48 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all


Michel



Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-31-07 at 06:55:11 PDT   Listings
Oggilby

No one does .IMHO, a decent impression
of mr Knotts.

He a singular talent.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Oct-30-07 at 17:16:04 PDT   Listings
JUST FOR THE RECORD -----The owner of the stamp auction firm called me about 4 days after the auction to let me know that there was a small error on the billing statement .He also thanked me for coming to his auction and it was nice that I spent three days with his staff looking at auction lots .In return told him his staff was excellent and the other dealer who were viewing lots and later were bidding against each other and me were all nice people ,just like I posted here the day I return ,so im lost to think why it would be different overseas .....besides i've already posted here that i.ve made a few friends from England when the owner and staff from Sandfreyre come over to buy stamps and we bid against each other ,they are still friends and we eat lunch and supper together .They got bigger pockets than me so they beat me up a few times on the auction floor .

MINI-LIND , your right only one firm has gone to a 20% on the first $2500.00 and all the other firms are watching this and many dealers are watching this change .People are waiting to see how consignors are going to react .Wondering if the differance is going to come out of the sale price .If Shreves sales drop off or bidding is reduced,there will be a quick return to their old pricing structure .......paul

MINI-------See were Stanley Gibbons is pulling out of Australia .Guess they are ceaseing their licenses agreements with different firms and Mowbray is one of them .We can see Gibbons get away from stamp collecting and serving collectors and become a high end investment firm in the near future .That looks like their direction

Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Oct-30-07 at 16:30:31 PDT   Listings
Pro

Share away !!

Or, more appropriately, anchors away. :-)
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-30-07 at 16:09:53 PDT   Listings
I=O

Nice explanin' there

hope you don't mind if I share that
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Oct-30-07 at 16:01:24 PDT   Listings
stamps-4-ever

It is difficult to tell if it is just a stamp without the rest of the cover, but the odds are good that the ship was out to sea.

If it had been mailed from Hong Kong it would have received a Hong Kong cancel.

When ships are at sea they can use the stamps of their last port of call or the stamps of the country of destination of the mail.

Since it is unlikely that all the passengers or crew aboard a ship would be sending mail to the same country, it makes sense for the purser, or whoever, to stock stamps from the port of origin.

International postage rates are decided upon by individual countries via the UPU.

I can't go into a US post office and buy British stamps to send a letter to England. I buy US stamps and place the correct number to make the international postage rate to the UK. If the missive makes it to the shores of the UK, the UK assumes it has the correct postage rate on it and will deliver it.

It would make very little sense for every post office in the world to stock the stamps of every other country in the world just because someone might want to send a letter to it.

Just imagine a ship as a country at sea.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 948 ) on Oct-30-07 at 15:57:42 PDT   Listings
Oops I seem to have missed the meeting this weekend, I was out in the forest as this may be the last chance to go hunt for these or these late autumn mushrooms before winter sets in. :-) There are others who hunt bigger things but I let them go. I was quite close but they ran off before I could get a close-up picture. Actually, they go well with the first mushrooms...


I started collection when I was around 8-10, got some packets of "Dunes", some recent kiloware and stamps from incoming mail. And for Xmas one year my father gace me a Norway #1 which he had found in a wallet (!!). Never got very "serious" until I picked it up again around 1990, made my own albums for Norway, Denmark and (up to 1970) Sweden. Since 1995 I have accumulated stuff but not added much to the orginazing of my collection.


My interest in postmarks with errors aterted as I went through the archives of my mother's parents after they passed away. They had no interest in stamps but had kept lots of correspondence with stamps intact. I found a letter to my grandfather with a machine cancel where one date ring had the year "61" and the other "62".

Posted by bjornmu   ( 948 ) on Oct-30-07 at 15:48:24 PDT   Listings
Keleofa, ehem, your father could not have had a stamp cancelled in Oslo around 1870, because the city's name was Christiania (or Kristiania) until 1925...
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Oct-30-07 at 15:39:22 PDT   Listings
David Snyder… Sounds like another unasked-for, unwanted, useless, frustrating, ill-thought-out, counterproductive “improvement”!! Brought to you by your “friends” at eBay, where the motto is—
“We hear you, we just don’t give a sh*t…”


Jim
Posted by stamps-4-ever   ( 134 ) on Oct-30-07 at 14:04:12 PDT   Listings
I have a Hong Kong King Edward VII 12c stamp cancelled by part of DEUTSCHE SEEPOST / OST- / ASIATISCHE / LINIE. Does this mean that this stamp was cancelled while a German Ship was in Hong Kong? Or was it cancelled while ship was out at sea, but why use a Hong Kong Stamp? Could someone clarify and tell a little about these cancellations.
Posted by kathmoon   ( 335 ) on Oct-30-07 at 13:45:06 PDT   Listings
DJS: What I am currently selling on Ebay results in MOST buyers buying more than 1 item. Using Ebays Invoice is great - also easy. It lines up all of the purchases - but only 1 is priced. You need to put check marks in all of the boxes and change the Postage (if needed) then click on recalculate and then send. It is very user-friendly.
Posted by djs127   ( 617 ) on Oct-30-07 at 13:03:28 PDT   Listings
Linda - when I have all 9 in myebay by choosing Awaiting Payment - If I check all of them and chose invoice from the drop down I only get one lot? I must be tired.
David Snyder
Posted by malolo   ( 859 ) on Oct-30-07 at 13:00:19 PDT   Listings
Aloha Michel -

I also hope things are improving for you.

DJS -
My experience is that when I purchase multiple items from a buyer I usually ignore the invoices -too many emails per auction - and go straight to one of the auctions, click the pay button, and proceed. I use Paypal links which eventually gets me to the Paypal site where all the sellers auctions are lined up with a total, then I click "PAY". Very easy, no need to input any data, verything is automatic which is what computerization is all about.aving a duplicate system doesn't make much sense to me and quite often the seller's email invoices are found in my spam folder since so many are from unrecognized ISPs. Biggest problem is buying from European sellers who don't offer Paypal, then emails start going back and forth with me trying to determine how much cash I have to send through the mail. Always a mess!

Roger
PS:
Paolo - 2008 is very close. Stay in touch.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 502 ) on Oct-30-07 at 12:54:44 PDT   Listings
djsDavid Yes, I invoice from my My eBay page, use the drop-down next to the item, invoice will show all items purchased by that buyer, you just check the boxes next to the item numbers on the invoice page to 'add' them to the invoices, hit 'recalculate', then re-adjust the postage to what you are charging the buyer and send.

Greetings Michel.

Linda
Posted by djs127   ( 617 ) on Oct-30-07 at 12:43:28 PDT   Listings
Has anyone used the invocing feature of Ebay when a buyer has bought many lots from you? I can't seem to get Ebay to invoice all the lots. I sent the buyer a combined email from Vendio but he hasn't responded which is why I thought an invoice might help.
David Snyder
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Oct-30-07 at 11:25:22 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all
Michel



Posted by knuden   ( 2386 ) on Oct-30-07 at 10:44:33 PDT   Listings
mendelbrot - Greeting to you from old Denmark. Hope thing are improving. :O)

K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Oct-30-07 at 10:27:13 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all

Michel
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Oct-30-07 at 10:23:02 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all

Michel

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3788 ) on Oct-30-07 at 10:06:52 PDT   Listings

d2c - thanks

IO - perhaps you could sign off as

IgnOrant-raff, CQ

Long live the queen

laff-raff

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-30-07 at 09:24:55 PDT   Listings
Easily Humored

Thank you very much for the postings on the Reply cards

I normally pass on modern stuff
But will start taking the occassional one of those I see
Best part is that that are normally in the 5 for a buck
boxes with all the other Business reply dreck
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Oct-30-07 at 09:18:12 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

ignorant-raff, catalog queen.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3788 ) on Oct-30-07 at 09:03:20 PDT   Listings

Here is a similar reply card but without any message, likely a philatelic creation. I am hopeful that my new cards have a commercial message.

personally I get a kick out of all the bich-fights.

easilyhumored-raff

Posted by smudger_the_ink   ( 1 ) on Oct-30-07 at 08:34:06 PDT   Listings
knuden

You would spend your time more productively if you asked the person concerned to cut down on his attacks and personal insults to others.

If you think what I posted was a personal attack you ain't seen nothing yet. That was a comment.

Now leave me alone, I have work to do.






Posted by knuden   ( 2386 ) on Oct-30-07 at 08:06:22 PDT   Listings
smudger_the_ink - Larry, please keep personal insults out of this board. Use mail instead. It would be more interesting to hear about your collecting interest.

K.E  I'm a catalog queen - whoopee!!


Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3788 ) on Oct-30-07 at 07:56:17 PDT   Listings

Poppa - considering how many didn't make it to their 40s, not a bad deal. Mailing your lots today, thanks.

stillamongtheliving-raff

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3788 ) on Oct-30-07 at 07:53:52 PDT   Listings

They are private international reply cards, similar to the UY16 postal cards in Scott. They were originally a folded pair of cards, one to an overseas address, and the reply portion fraked with US postage for their return. I consider them to be quite exotic, especially with their commemorative franking which will be welcome additions to my US commemoratives on cover collection. My good fortune likely attributed to poor wording by the seller in the listing description.

Posted by sayasan   ( 732 ) on Oct-30-07 at 07:46:51 PDT   Listings
smudger - lighten up a bit, eh?
Posted by poppadawg   ( 754 ) on Oct-30-07 at 07:43:50 PDT   Listings
NOIP: Grace Slick is 68 today. What a bummer, man.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 301 ) on Oct-30-07 at 07:25:54 PDT   Listings
Jeff
could you explain the importance of the lot?
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3788 ) on Oct-30-07 at 07:11:06 PDT   Listings

YES!!!

Posted by smudger_the_ink   ( 1 ) on Oct-30-07 at 06:30:57 PDT   Listings
stamps12345

Once again you have shown your lack of knowledge about auction fees. What drives you on, your intense belief that you know all there is to know about everything or is it that there are many around you who know more than you. Hard to accept isn't it?
To take up your point from the other day that you enjoy beating up other bidders with your bidding card at public auctions.
Like to see you try that in the UK. Oops, sorry I forgot, you are not able to leave the States due to you not having a passport. What a shame or should I say, thank goodness for small mercies. We are saved over here from seeing you head kicking the auctioneer or flapping your card at other bidders. Maybeyou could arrange a video link of you performing at an auction in the USA.

Don't suppose a lunch invite is on after this?

Larry

Posted by smudger_the_ink   ( 1 ) on Oct-30-07 at 06:15:42 PDT   Listings
nop

test
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Oct-30-07 at 05:16:09 PDT   Listings
I do not know if US Mail users are aware of this...

Siemens announced that it has been awarded a $217.5 million (161 million euros) fixed-price contract from the Northrop Grumman Corporation to provide key technologies of the Flats Sequencing Systems (FSS) contract. Northrop Grumman was contracted by the U.S. Postal Service to provide 100 FSS to further automate its flats mail stream, which includes large envelopes, catalogs and magazines.

Siemens will provide the optical character recognition and video coding systems (OCR/VCS), the tray staging device (TSD), the sorter built to NGC's design. Additionally, Siemens will provide extensive logistical services and support. A pre-production version of the system will be fielded later this year. This version will be used by the U.S. Postal Service to develop system operational procedures. Installation of the first FSS production units at U.S. Postal Service facilities nationwide is expected to begin in 2008 with the remaining FSS installations scheduled for completion by 2010.

"The technical demands of this program require the combined experience of both companies' in the development of postal automation systems as well as our proven records of performance on U.S. Postal Service programs," said Lukas Loeffler, vice president of Siemens Postal Automation in the U.S. "Northrop Grumman and Siemens entered a teaming agreement for the FSS program in 2003 and it has been a successful partnership."
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 502 ) on Oct-30-07 at 04:59:24 PDT   Listings
I notice with interest that Shreves Auction house (USA) is now charging a buyers commission on a sliding scale..
A buyer’s premium equal to 20%
of the successful bid price of each lot up to and including
$2,000.00 and 15% of the excess bid price will be added to
each invoice and is payable by the buyer as part of the total purchase price.


They have some fantastic collections coming up too.

Linda
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 413 ) on Oct-30-07 at 04:43:10 PDT   Listings
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Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Oct-30-07 at 04:27:00 PDT   Listings
JUST TO GET THE RECORD STRAIGHT --------The earlier discussion about auction fees are wrong and misleading .All those who are thinking of buying at public auction should know the 15% buyer fee is still standard in the U.S.

There are a few exceptions but all but one major firm charges 15%.The major auctions is still the best place to find material if you know the stuff and know the way the game is played{picked over material and manufactored lots }.

Posted by philaweb   ( 313 ) on Oct-30-07 at 04:02:51 PDT   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-30-07 at 03:34:46 PDT   Listings
Good Day
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1415 ) on Oct-30-07 at 03:23:29 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 643 ) on Oct-29-07 at 22:24:25 PDT   Listings
Jeff Hmm, that is one ugly cover! I would have not given a dime for it! Just shows how ignorant I am <:~`))

Io You are ignorant? I did not know that. Best not let it get around.............Fotflmao....
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 643 ) on Oct-29-07 at 22:00:42 PDT   Listings
Sorry for that screwed up post. I'm to tired to correct it,
hope it did not hurt your eyes..........
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 643 ) on Oct-29-07 at 21:56:42 PDT   Listings
Re: This weekends E U S C meeting.
Please excuse me for not ending it on time but "life happens" and sometimes they shut the power off for several hours.
I wish to thank everyone for sharing their early experiences in philately with the rest of the board.
I enjoyed reading all topic related posts and hope everyone else found them to be a vehicle to create a bond between us all.
It's getting a bit hard to come up with new topics, (this last one was not) for club meetings. I would appreciate any ideas for future meeting topics (that would include most members). Please email me if you have any ideas.

Happy Stampin,
Mitchell
el Presidente'


Posted by pugswon   ( 143 ) on Oct-29-07 at 21:07:18 PDT   Listings
scans =) Its late and im tired. Night All
Posted by pugswon   ( 143 ) on Oct-29-07 at 21:06:53 PDT   Listings
I am not going to even mention the fact about the "sans and the "digital" .Thanks
Posted by pugswon   ( 143 ) on Oct-29-07 at 21:05:51 PDT   Listings
iomoon
I have not seen such ignorance from ebay members also grown adults; besides two other people who left me bad feedback because I wouldnt let them keep the item and the money (steal my money and item). A sheltered life ? No..not at all. I dont believe everyone in this world knows what a APO is. The fact that they didnt hear of this makes them
" sheltered ". Maybe you need to worry about what you dont know rather then sit in ebay chat rooms and voice your ignorance on peoples knowledge on ebay. Have a
great night to all ! Pugswon
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 502 ) on Oct-29-07 at 20:17:00 PDT   Listings
well done, smiling-money-raff!!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3788 ) on Oct-29-07 at 19:52:54 PDT   Listings

;^)

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1415 ) on Oct-29-07 at 18:44:54 PDT   Listings
Jim L.

member
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 17:43:17 PDT   Listings
Pugs
To my eye nothing special there
Real Modern stuff
what I consider 25 centers

There are others here who have more
experience than me
Look back tomorrow
Just in case.


RF
Ga shi do annon
Posted by nomad55   ( 933 ) on Oct-29-07 at 17:35:44 PDT   Listings
jaywild....you are very welcome!
Sometimes a post office screw up is a positive thing ;)
Posted by poppadawg   ( 754 ) on Oct-29-07 at 17:29:08 PDT   Listings
Pugswon: Your first stop should be this site of one of the regular posters here. http://paperhistory.home.mindspring.com/primer.htm
Read over that...contains lots of good information.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1368 ) on Oct-29-07 at 17:14:49 PDT   Listings
"U mandara ke"
Posted by iomoon   ( 1055 ) on Oct-29-07 at 17:05:47 PDT   Listings
pugswon

You appear to have missed the distinction between a scan and a digital photograph, but no matter.

APO stands for Army Post Office.
Have you led a sheltered life?
Posted by pugswon   ( 143 ) on Oct-29-07 at 16:42:20 PDT   Listings
duce2cents. Here are the scans of the Florida postcards. http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa206/pugswon/
I have not taken any pictures of the WWI photos yet. I am not sure what a APO is. I am totally new at this whole postcard idea.
Posted by redsteph711   ( 146 ) on Oct-29-07 at 16:13:40 PDT   Listings
Well, sorry I missed the big meeting topic. Alas. But I was surprised that no one mentioned the beginning of the space age as an inspiration or turn-on?

That was certainly for me a big thing as a kid in the '60s. And I always liked the space stamps.
Like most folks, my Dad got me into the hobby. I saved my allowances up and bought a Senior Statesman and I think I was 13 at the time? No longer sure.

I went to the Mega Saturday and copped the new UN space stamps and sheets. And, at a UK dealer's table, I met the cousin of the author Tom Shippey (famous for books on Tolkien).
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 15:45:26 PDT   Listings
Anyhow,
I hereby temporarily terminate my public relations with this board.
I will probably (hopefully) be back next year (2008).
I feel I have to take care of my Italian relations and friends, just like here, but in a couple of Italian Forums.
That takes some concentration and energy (it is my own idiom, zero tolerance, in my book).

All the best to all my friends,
Paolo

My e-mail is the same.

Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 15:29:05 PDT   Listings
Roger,
I believe the inherent mixed franking is irrelevant.
The 50 cents 'gestrichenes papier' (Michel Y) was perfectly available and in use in that period of time, the date of the cancel is 1941 (I think).
With general postal authorities ordnance: the less paper the more correct the franking.
The 50c. of the Issue of 1941 (the Swear of the Three Cantons) is larger in dimensions. Zum Durchalten!

Paolo
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 15:19:42 PDT   Listings
My bad peetah
would have to see , had not gotten far into these Military Envelopes yet
There are 10 pages of listing with all kkiinds of things to look for.
Scan when possible.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 15:17:49 PDT   Listings
peetah

ok
pale grey blue M2d 1oo k

or greenish light blue M2c 12k

1930 issue
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:59:28 PDT   Listings
Reason: stubborn unresponsiveness.
Like someone told me, in the meanwhile, on the same subject:
"there is no-one deafer than him who doesn't want to listen".
Probable cause(s): radicated philatelic ignorance, private interest mixed with making a catalogue for public widespread use.
You are: Guilty as charged (after about 7 years of scrutiny).
I will certainly resort to the ample and colorful competition, from now on!
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:43:12 PDT   Listings
Sorry for the double!
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:42:19 PDT   Listings
Evidently, nobody here has one of the very instructive and full of mistakes, albeit very colorful, Sassone catalogues.
The full covering with large size color images and footnotes do stimulate many newbies into collecting! That is a positive aspect.
However, to the redactor/largest share holder of this catalogue:
my free-lance attempted cooperation (e-mails, de visu conversations and letters) is hereby terminated.
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:42:19 PDT   Listings
Evidently, nobody here has one of the very instructive and full of mistakes, albeit very colorful, Sassone catalogues.
The full covering with large size color images and footnotes do stimulate many newbies into collecting! That is a positive aspect.
However, to the redactor/largest share holder of this catalogue:
my free-lance attempted cooperation (e-mails, de visu conversations and letters) is hereby terminated.
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:36:11 PDT   Listings
due2cents Using Gibbons' Colour Key, the nearest color is greenish slate. Second choice slate blue.Again with Gibbons' Colour Key, it is definetly NOT gray-black.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:25:06 PDT   Listings
I can not make out anything in that scan roger
I use my Zumstein all the time.

Due to geography and stuff I'm trying to label
Facit has been open on desk for a couple of weeks.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:24:44 PDT   Listings
I could of given 150 euro immediately (anyone can easily make it in US$ or CHF).
My word / my bid.
For curiosity, so not making this ludicrously transaction related but a maybe instructive estimate exercise,
keep us informed on the Rölleli auction result.
I never bid there, alas.
Cover ain't parcel card, I know that (I kept it in consideration).
Anyway, with a smiley ;-) Paolo
Posted by malolo   ( 859 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:14:20 PDT   Listings
107
Posted by malolo   ( 859 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:09:53 PDT   Listings
Pro -
That is one advantage of knowing about certain rarities and having a specialized catalogue. I didn’t recognize the neat item at first I was too infatuated with the razor usage. Blur keeps many from bidding, sometimes a positive benefit!

Paolo -
That is what I think it will prove to be. But in combination with the new issue is better still, since a 50 centimes new issue should have been available to the sender at the same time the 60 cent was stuck on the tag. Probably one of the last mixed combinations of any significance in Swiss collecting.

The 107 is on its way to Roelli Auctions for inclusion in their February sale with the other three Standing Helvetia parcel tags I showed earlier. I’m inclined to believe the results will finance a couple of months of collecting! Bid high, bid often, )’>).

My favorite page in their web site is here:
Click on menu bar “auctions”> “Auction 45”> scroll down to lot #1168. An eBay purchase of a rare item and sold at a brick and mortar in country of origin. )’>)

One must understand there are not many high value rarities with razor cancels, and there are not many possibilities, though, I do have this.


Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 14:02:03 PDT   Listings
peetah
with one of lines missing
really huge reduction
like cut in margin on any imperf

would you call the colorgrey-black or

there is also some spots to look for around crowns.

listed at 600 k i do not know what exchange was in 2000
but less than half that for cut in
Posted by dbenson   ( 8658 ) on Oct-29-07 at 13:46:05 PDT   Listings
Paolo, it is most probably closer to a 45% differerential between what the buyer pays and the seller receives,

David B.

Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 13:34:01 PDT   Listings
Just got a reply from Facit in regards to Facit 2008 Special it is in Swedish and English. Now to see if there is a US source for it.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 13:30:55 PDT   Listings
David B.,
As you know, any of such thermo-nuclear-rethorical questions don't need to be answered! ;-)
I recently bid on some different lots of the Ghiglione.
The contact was a bit surprised of my new field of interest.
This public auction house is an example of where philatelic things can be sold with sometimes enormous profit. Then again, eBay and PayPal just take a SMALL percentage, in comparison to the fat 20% on the sold (20% for who sells and 20% for who buys it).

Paolo
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 13:14:02 PDT   Listings
due2cents Sorry, I don't have a scan to show right now and can't do one until I get my PC back. Comcast's screwing around with "Improvements" made my ftp ing unreliable and I ended up messing with various settings trying to get my pictures to show up. Well, all that messing around has caused my PC to have to go to the computer doctor.
As to paper it looks to be white with shiny gum causing the back to look a little towards yellow. Around 3 edges on the back is a pattern of some sort, in the same color as the image on the front.
On the front, 3 sides show a dashed line and the paper is cut a full 1/8 inch from that dashed line. At the top, the dashed line has been cut away. That pattern I mention on 3 sides of the back is missing at the top of the stamp.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Oct-29-07 at 12:52:29 PDT   Listings
Maybe you can get one in Engrish.

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8658 ) on Oct-29-07 at 12:43:32 PDT   Listings
Paolo,

can't answer that, maybe he doesn't attend stamp clubs and talk to people. Even though the age of stamp club attendees may average 70 it doesn't mean they don't use computers, digital cameras or cell phones.

David B.


Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 12:28:59 PDT   Listings
David B.,
In fact, I was wondering!
Besides, for something different, I fail to see W.T.F. a relatively new user of public auctions, with very limited philatelic knowledge, as it has been demonstrated more times, can draw conclusions arrogantly on the general philatelic market, by his small, insignificant (at least to me) niche of experience.

Michel (mendelbrot),
My special greetings to you!

Paolo
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Oct-29-07 at 12:08:54 PDT   Listings
Greetings to you all
Posted by dbenson   ( 8658 ) on Oct-29-07 at 12:06:29 PDT   Listings
NOIP,

I remember reading a comment from the APS that the percentage of internet usage by their members was only about 75%, here in Australia amongst stamp collectors it would be at least 100% if not more. The statement that older collectors do not use internet may have been correct in 1995 but not today,

David B.
Posted by elliehytyme   ( 350 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:42:12 PDT   Listings
ok, have to do some stuff, look for more stuff to put on ebay tonight. will be back with a bunch of stamps in a few hours thanks
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:39:56 PDT   Listings
Scan a scanner full
we here love to spot good stamps in piles

Posted by elliehytyme   ( 350 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:39:07 PDT   Listings
There are so many hundreds go back to the 1920's have not scaned any
Posted by elliehytyme   ( 350 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:37:50 PDT   Listings
Most are from Sweden some very old
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:37:29 PDT   Listings
ellie
got any scans
or good descrip[tions
Posted by dbenson   ( 8658 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:35:42 PDT   Listings
Trucial,

I don't know what you are complaining about, you got very nice realisations for your India used abroad. If you are worried about getting low realisations then list the items at what you want for them, then they cannot be sold for less than you expect,

David B.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 491 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:34:54 PDT   Listings
I have the 2000 too, I just found it :).
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 491 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:31:57 PDT   Listings
Peetah: I have a 1995-1996 Facit, and that's in both Swedish and English.
It's a great book.
I think I got it from Subway.
Posted by elliehytyme   ( 350 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:31:05 PDT   Listings
HI all I was wondering if anyone can tell me a little about some old stamps i havw?
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:29:16 PDT   Listings
P.S. Roger,
please let me know when you list the Zu. 107 (same Issue of the one of before, but 40 c. type I) on the parcel card you showed some weeks ago!
Paolo
Posted by gary.nes   ( 15253 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:22:28 PDT   Listings
peetah

Comcast has been screwed up for almost two weeks. I have had daily conversations with tech and they are "aware" of the problem and it is in their server. It seems to be the only place that access is denied. For what it's worth their phone # 1-888-793-0800. Work order (National) ND003759581. Work order (Comcast Internal) CR105189703. The "internal" work order number is supposedly not given to the general public, but I was such a nuisance I got it ;-))

I wouldn't hold my breath that this will be resolved quickly, I got the distinct impression the new "Web Page" ie My Face etc, is the cuplrit and they are more concerned that it works than the FTP.

BTW, your pics that ARE uploaded should be OK, I have had no problems with lots listed and have 2000+ images up there right now. Edititing is the roadblock.

Gary

Posted by xzephyr   ( 992 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:21:22 PDT   Listings
Jaywild

Thanks for the lotion, Jim. But it is 65 years too late!

Colin, too set in his ways!

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:19:07 PDT   Listings
peetah
got a scan, there are more than 10 differences to look for

what kinda paper

Is it brown/yellow or
not close cut i hope
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:13:26 PDT   Listings
Gotta go, will check back later due2cents to see if you found a catalog number and value. Color of the one I have is a bluish gray.
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 11:06:12 PDT   Listings
due2cents That page just identified a stamp for me ! Does it give a value for MNH ?
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:59:19 PDT   Listings
Peetah

Here is an example

Bookmark_page Facit 2000
the Millenium edition.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:58:50 PDT   Listings
Roger,
The 50 c. green 'Sitting Helvetia with Sward' is probably on chalky paper, due to the date of usage!
Nice catch!
Paolo
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:57:30 PDT   Listings
Anyone else FTP ing to Comcast free space, having a problem viewing their own images? I pulled down a few Canada/Provinces listings a few weeks ago and have not relisted since, because I still cannot view my own pictures.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:52:21 PDT   Listings
Roger

To me the scans are so Blurry and pxeled
that I can not see much at all
How do you view/ improve your view
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:50:41 PDT   Listings
22028 Just sent Facit an email asking if it was also in English. Was thinking of asking if it was in Canadian too, LOL.
Posted by vonbag   ( 206 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:50:38 PDT   Listings
Jim (Jay) and Peetah,
I once saw a commentary about the Ukrainian version:
couldn't even read it, but I think it's a good catalog for the resident (drag) Queen!

;-) Paolo
Posted by malolo   ( 859 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:45:06 PDT   Listings
trucial -

Brick and mortar have an overhead much higher than eBay requires to conduct business, therefore, must lot more valuable items in their catalogues. The majority of stamp and postal history collectors have never sat in a live auction because their budgets don't allow for them to bid on multiple $100 or $1000's lots.

eBay is a totally different venue and requires the buyer to be more knowledgeable in their own specialty area to make eBay effective for them. There are rarities available on eBay, they usually aren't described or recognized by the sellers, thus the search by those who have time. Very few rarities are discovered at brick and mortar auctions since the consigners and in house "experts" should have recognized them in the course of lotting the sale. eBay is virgin territory with items being offered to the world from the world. I also think some items that traditionally have high prices at brick and mortar are over priced and "recycled" to see if a buyer will evre pay the price. There is one particular 1872 cover I saw on eBay offered by a European auction house that I like, but find the price expensive for what it is. After it didn't sell to the world at both eBay auction and in the ebay store, I still see it in the company web site, still at the same price, and most importantly it is almost 2 1/2 years since I first saw it. If it can't be sold in over 2 years one would think a price review would be in order, but I guess maintaining a high price is better than moving inventory!

I always like using examples from my eBay buying. Just now a lot closed:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270179174185

and one can see my initial interest - the Lausanne razor cancel on a parcel tag. It is the first I have ever seen on a parcel card, and this implies the devices was bing used somewhere in the post office other than the letter processing division. A very interesting development as far as I'm concerned as a specialist in razor cancels. BUT, the real value in this lot is elswhere. I'll let everyone figure out why I will get to keep my special razor cancel and make money at the same time. This auction is a perfect example of my discussion above.

Roger
Swiss Razor Cancels
Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:41:30 PDT   Listings
Peetah
The 2008 catalog is just out.., and as far as i know, written in Swedish...
http://www.facit.se/indexe.htm
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:36:50 PDT   Listings
Canadian I could handle LOL
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:32:50 PDT   Listings
Peetah… I’ve heard they also publish versions in Swiss, Austrian, Australian, Venezuelan, Brazilian and Canadian. Don’t know it that’s helpful or not…



Jim
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:32:28 PDT   Listings
Just spoke to Subway. The Facit 2007 Special" "is not written in English". :-(
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:31:38 PDT   Listings
Great Catalog FACIT
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:27:39 PDT   Listings
due2cents Oh? Hmmm, Linn's is (Subway)advertising a "2007 Special" making no reference the language used. Guess I should give em a call.
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:24:30 PDT   Listings
Thanks jaywild Guess I'll pass on getting one. I have all I can do with English.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:22:04 PDT   Listings
PEETAH
I have the Swedisk/English Version

has both langs.
I only have the 2000 special
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:20:34 PDT   Listings
Peetah… It’s written in Scandinavian...



Jim
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:19:21 PDT   Listings
Pugwon

Share a couple of Scans

any APO markings on the WW2

What kind of Florida post Cards.
Posted by jaywild   ( 1010 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:18:50 PDT   Listings
Jeff & Ant-Ra… I had a little problem with eSnipe about mid-day yesterday. My link to their sign-on didn’t work, but eventually it did. I was going to do a manual snipe on something but then forgot, and eSnipe took care of it correctly. Whatever was the problem seems to have been resolved.



Jim
Posted by peetah   ( 511 ) on Oct-29-07 at 10:12:06 PDT   Listings
Anyone know what language the Facit Scandinavia Catalog is written in? And is there a 2008 issued or about to be issued?
Posted by pugswon   ( 143 ) on Oct-29-07 at 09:00:02 PDT   Listings
Hello. I have about 180 post-cards. I have old ones from WWll and such. I have about 70 postcards from florida. I was wondering if I should put them in a huge lot ( the ones from florida) and see how it goes. Do you think it will sell good or not. PLease give me some input on you behalf. THank you Pugswon
Posted by trucial   ( 61 ) on Oct-29-07 at 08:52:42 PDT   Listings
Re Low realizations

Good morning Due, and Paul,
My side of the world it is early evening.
I always thought internet had wider reach !
However there must be something to remedy low realizations. Collectors/sellers, please do put your thinking caps on.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3788 ) on Oct-29-07 at 06:31:20 PDT   Listings

Mitch - esnipe worked fine for me late last night and this am as well.

lucky-raff

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Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1415 ) on Oct-29-07 at 05:11:57 PDT   Listings
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Posted by 22028   ( 1661 ) on Oct-29-07 at 04:54:08 PDT   Listings
merc534, a more clear and uncrypted message would help. Have your buyer paid by credit card thru paypal? In that case just go to your paypal account and click on "refund" at the payment.
Posted by merc534   ( 10 ) on Oct-29-07 at 04:40:33 PDT   Listings
sold stamps buyer paying by card but i cant finr accept or refuse tab help !!!
Posted by stamps12345   ( 225 ) on Oct-29-07 at 04:27:16 PDT   Listings
DUE -----No don't have the S/S .

TRUCIAL-----Due is right ,its a waste of time to search and bid on anything of quality on e-bay,shipping and insurance and returning items which are misdiscribed is a waste of time .Its easier for me to beat-up other buyers on a stamp auction floor after viewing the material .I don't like loseing lots for $5.00 or $10.00 to someone ,I'll rather look them in the eye and choke them with a bid card that doesn't bounce up and down the card goes up and the lot goes home with me ......paul

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 03:48:12 PDT   Listings
Sell In real world
Not WWW
IMHO

I also think most of the Olde tymers/big timers
ain't wasting their time in front of a monitor

Morning Trucial
Posted by trucial   ( 61 ) on Oct-29-07 at 03:33:37 PDT   Listings
Why the Big ticket Stamps and Postal History items realize less at eBay as compared to reputable auction houses at UK/Switzerland/USA. Is it the trust which is placed in these auction houses, or the computer literacy where older collectors are concerned, or is it the longer time availability of the printed auction catalog listings, or something else ? Please suggest What can a seller do to improve realizations of high value postal history items?
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Oct-29-07 at 03:33:06 PDT   Listings
Good Day to all

almost Nov wow
quick year