eBay chatboard archive: Aug-20-07 to Aug-26-07 week

Posted by bradstonian   ( 1315 ) on Aug-26-07 at 23:07:21 PDT   Listings
Hi Paolo,

A 'Certificate of Posting' is a receipt for letters which is provided free of charge by the Post Office. The certificate offers limited compensation, up to £25, I believe.

In general, I prefer used stamps to mint, because a used stamp has served its purpose. I'm happy to have mint stamps in my thematic collection, but don't see any particular value in obtaining unmounted mint examples.

Martin.
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-26-07 at 20:37:47 PDT   Listings
dinero45… I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but your Elvis stamp is not “double printed”. Here is the catalog entry for your stamp, and it does not show any evidence that a “double print” variety has ever shown up.

What you have is a fairly common example of misregistration, where all the colors printed in the proper place except the black, which is shifted down in relation to the rest of the image. Not worth much, I’m afraid.

If eBay is on the ball they will ask you to pull the auction, because to advertise it as a “double print” variety is misleading, and could encourage people to bid on it thinking it is something rare and valuable. The ethical thing to do is pull the auction yourself, because to continue trying to sell it now that you know what it really is would be dishonest.

Jim
Posted by dinero45   ( 372 ) on Aug-26-07 at 20:19:23 PDT   Listings
I am selling an Elvis Presley Double Image sheet. I hope I put it in the right section.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-26-07 at 19:59:05 PDT   Listings
DRAGONSTAMPS -----Will try to pick up the other type this week from a friend and will scan both in a week or so.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-26-07 at 19:56:03 PDT   Listings
SCOTT-----Thanks don't understand the problem of some not opening up the link.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1384 ) on Aug-26-07 at 19:39:56 PDT   Listings
member
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-26-07 at 19:30:13 PDT   Listings
Paul: Yeah I agree, your stamp (which was at the bottom on my copy/paste of the 3 different Qatars) was the only type II of the three stamps. Rainer's was the middle stamp, and my scan was at the top. You can see from that .jpg that your stamp has the thinner font.

I should have cropped the overprints alone and put them on a grid type background. But that would have been too much of a project...Getting the sizes correct to scale would have
been important, and tough to do. Maybe only possible if I had the stamps in person, to scan?
Anyhow, at first I though Rainer's was different from my type I scan so I thought his was by default, type II. That was wrong to assume, on my part.
You really need to compare one to actual types I+II to see which one it is.
Posted by scottpel3   ( 835 ) on Aug-26-07 at 18:37:59 PDT   Listings
Paul:
No problem openning either link.
Scott
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-26-07 at 17:49:12 PDT   Listings
THANKS---stamphick
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-26-07 at 17:47:53 PDT   Listings
Can someone confirm this link opens up ...... Qatar differences.....paul
Posted by stamphick!   ( 338 ) on Aug-26-07 at 17:45:23 PDT   Listings
paul...I can open it.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-26-07 at 17:41:02 PDT   Listings
Can anybody else ,open the link ?????
Posted by dbenson   ( 8509 ) on Aug-26-07 at 17:30:22 PDT   Listings
Paul, sorry I cannot open your scan, could I also see the other values you showed before,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-26-07 at 17:27:18 PDT   Listings
David B. Here is the information you need to see the differences of the type on the Qatar stamps .As I said earlier ,mine are typeII . QATAR type differences on the 5/ ....paul
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-26-07 at 16:50:48 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Bad case of dyslexia—not only on this lot title, but this one as well.

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8509 ) on Aug-26-07 at 16:28:18 PDT   Listings
Paul, if you linked a scan of each stamp separately then it may be possible to confirm them but from the scan you showed it is impossible,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-26-07 at 15:58:50 PDT   Listings
Thanks ......FLIP138 For confirming my statement to Rainier that his stamps are a type I and that the scan of my stamps are a Type II. There are one or two others that could of confirmed it ,but decided to remain silent but thats to be expected of them .....paul

The key is the statment in Gibbons of the Bolder and thicker letters on that overprint .

Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-26-07 at 15:42:09 PDT   Listings
Paolo…

?

Hi Lindy...

Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 457 ) on Aug-26-07 at 15:14:51 PDT   Listings
Back from a lovely 3-day weekend away in the countryside. Lovely weather, good weekend. Its finally Spring, and country Victoria was beautiful, Blossom, Daffodils and Wattle blooming everywhere. I managed to buy a few items for my Ink Advertising Ephemera collection, a blotter and 2 envelopes. (nothing philatelic).

Thanks to Roger for a heads up on a Putney Item

Some nice displays here I on the weekend. Philaweb Great Latvia display, thanks! and
Milenko
wow! amazing display.
Sheryll I'll email you as soon as Vic finds this other item I was speaking of!

Linda
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-26-07 at 15:05:07 PDT   Listings
Jim (Jaywild),
Similar minds... ;-)
I particularly liked your answer to Vesa (- by the way, nice to see him posting again! -):
It reflects the truth!
A few months ago I made a series of certificates of authenticity for a Dutch seller. In the bulk of the material he consigned me 'brevi manu', in second instance I also found forgeries which I could ascribe to a particular forger. Thus, to help this guy and the collector in general, I made written notes (by hand, with signature) to the seller in order to offer this material separately, mentioning the Sperati, Oneglia or Fournier of turn, and the characteristics of the particular forgery or forged cancel.
Well, he got three (or more, I can't recall) of his listing pulled by the 'ox' (or cow), and he complained with me over the phone. I made him re-list without mentioning the word 'fake' or 'forgery' but just with the name of the forger and 'no guarantee of authenticity'.
I find this utterly ridiculous, especially being conscious of the mole of material on eBay which is grossly misdescribed, with plenty of forged or faked items offered as genuine and perfect: honesty is punished by the system.


To the GB readers:
I read in an item description on eBay:
"[...]I always obtain proof of posting.[...]"
How can you get that, not making a registered (or insured) sending?
TIA!

Paolo
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1990 ) on Aug-26-07 at 14:17:05 PDT   Listings
Back from a local bourse; perhaps the first time I've taken a table at a show in two years. Right about the normal numbers, although a couple of my main customers didn't appear today. It seems that something always happens to take up the slack....

I prefer my stamps used, actually on cover. I'm much more of a cover guy than stamp guy. When I am buying stamps these days, it's mostly mint though not exclusively. Generally, I'm buying for thematic purposes and those are usually preferred mint.
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-26-07 at 14:05:08 PDT   Listings
Milenko… Amazing exhibit. I had no idea there was a “War of the Pacific” so I read up on it thanks to Google. I learned something today.

What medal were you awarded when you exhibited? Again, it is beautifully done, with wonderful material.

Jim
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-26-07 at 14:03:57 PDT   Listings
Good day all!

Milenko,
Even though you said you sold it,
congratulations on your wonderful exhibit in Exponet!

Paul (Philaweb),
Great postal history & views from Riga!
Nice to see you posting!

Peter,
Welcome back!

1covers,
That was the deepest writing I read in a while.

NOIP,
Interesting discussion and images on Qatar overprints and everything else.

Paolo
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Aug-26-07 at 13:19:09 PDT   Listings
Hi to everyone.
Been on holiday in Somerset and Cornwall so catching up on the board will try and post later on mint v used. Went down to Lands End one day and was amazed to find an exhibition of DR Who props, the kids were in their element but confess so was Dad.
The dogs were not impressed by the first and last post box in England:-)



Peter


Posted by lluehhhb   ( 292 ) on Aug-26-07 at 12:23:07 PDT   Listings
used v/s unused

I'm a fan of used stamp. I'm more a cancel collector than a stamp collector!

When I started to collect seriously, I started with Chile first issues, where the color variations are the important thing: There are little variety of cancels on these (any non-mute standard cancel is an accident and against regulations).

In a year or so I got bored of colors and started with cancels. I managed to build a decent collection of 1879-1884 Pacific war cancels, among other specializations.

Now I'm more inclined to postal history and the study of rates. For the last months I've been searching the 1960-2007 Chilean rates and it has been a lot of fun and work.

So, in this scenario, unused stamps aren't very interesting to me.

I exhibited my pacific war collection some time ago and then I decided to sell it. I scanned it before selling and now it's in Exponet, here. Undoubtly, the money is in the cancels and not in the standard stamps. This is more notorious in the Peru stamps overprinted with a Chilean seal (Third frame, from the third page on). A lot of stamps were overprinted but soon they were forged to cheat the post office, so they were retired from circulation. A quite small number was used, so the prices for used ones are way higher than the unused ones.

A large unused stock was sold in 1897 by the Peruvian government. Most of these stamps were cancelled to order with a CDS specially made for that (the one in the page 3, "CORREOS DEL PERU / LIMA"). That's the one you'll see everytime in these stamps (there are other forged cancels but they're less common).

I managed to get a good number of real used ones. the highlights are the 20c lake and a cover, both major rarities. I got them in eBay in 1997 or so, when the competition was quite small and bargains were common. The 20c came in a mixture from Germany (quite cheap) and the cover came from Canada and costed me $100 (about 1/10 of its real value, if not less). Good times!
Posted by dbenson   ( 8509 ) on Aug-26-07 at 12:08:47 PDT   Listings
flip,

re the Qatar,

I think you've got it right.

The key term in Gibbons description of how to tell the difference is ROUNDED CORNERS. If you check the extremeties of the letters A T U etc. the rounded corners stand out against the square corners of type I.

David B.
Posted by jarvisto   ( 707 ) on Aug-26-07 at 11:47:30 PDT   Listings
Thanks jaywild. I will try my luck again...

Vesa
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 292 ) on Aug-26-07 at 11:35:33 PDT   Listings
djs127

The archives are in the eusc site (www.iusc.org), you'll find there an "Archives" link, altough the site seems to be offline right now.

If you're looking for messages from this week (Aug 20-26), I'll update that file on monday or tuesday I think.
Posted by gwm544   ( 4 ) on Aug-26-07 at 11:00:49 PDT   Listings
I am trying to locate a stamp seller who used to list on ebay and i use to buy from, his name was john gecik. Last word i had was that he retired and moved. Any info provided would be appreciated.

George Murphy georgewmurphy111@worldnet.att.net
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-26-07 at 10:38:50 PDT   Listings
Used stamps are usually more valuable when the country issuing them has a very small population and the PO does not overfinance its economy by CTO'ing mint left-over stamps.

Hence tiny islands like the Solomon Islands generally have more valuable used stamps.
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-26-07 at 10:28:52 PDT   Listings
jarvisto… Think of eBay as a big, dumb ox. Sometimes when you want the ox to do one thing, you have to fool it into thinking it is doing something else.

Don’t use the word “fake” anywhere in your lot description. Say instead “I’m pretty sure some of these stamps are not genuine”. Some words are like red flags, and you know how oxen act when a red flag is waved anywhere near them, even if it happens to be merely Farmer Jones taking out his red hanky to blow his nose. An ox would never understand the difference.

?

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-26-07 at 10:10:01 PDT   Listings
220man… Thanks. The short tie is fairly easy to spot. Yes, I surely would like a copy of anything relevant. I especially want to see enlargements of the differences in the “15” as well. I will “message” you my address.

Jim
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-26-07 at 10:05:23 PDT   Listings
Hey I looked at those 3 Qatar stamps again, (after taking a few hours needed break) and I agree now that the bottom stamp is the only type II. It's a thinner font. It's easier to see if you look at the whole overprint vs. overprint instead of trying to do a letter by letter comparison.

I guess you really need both types available to tell on that one!
Posted by jarvisto   ( 707 ) on Aug-26-07 at 09:44:18 PDT   Listings
Hello everyone

My listing was just removed because I mentioned that this Japan collection has fakes as they usually has but I don´t know which stamps I know nothing about japanese stamps.

Is there anyway list collections on ebay anymore? what should I say on my listing to be able list this japan collection again.

Thanks, Vesa
Posted by 220man   ( 156 ) on Aug-26-07 at 09:26:49 PDT   Listings
Jaywild: Forgot to include the booklet 1288B which I call the short tie variety. I have a lot of printed stuff from the APS library on the Holmes issues. If you want I could burn copies and snail them to you.
Phil
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 915 ) on Aug-26-07 at 08:43:31 PDT   Listings
Hi All: Regarding this months meeting topic, I personally collect both mint and used stamps for the following reasons.

USED-I'm always on the lookout for clear town cancels and complete dates. I have an ongoing collection of town cancels of my favorite country of Hungary and include the early issues of Austria with town cancels having usage in Hungary.

MINT-I still keep up with new issues of Hungary and subscribe to a new issue service for these year sets. I've also recently starting collecting the country of Austria and have separate albums for mint and used, from the beginning year of 1850 up to the late 1970s.

Finally, I'm also a world-wide stamp collector, 1840 to 1940 for used, and up to the '70s for mint. So for me, both mint and used stamps are acceptable.

Jimbo2
Posted by flip138   ( 389 ) on Aug-26-07 at 08:19:08 PDT   Listings
Qatar afficionados

I've uploaded a large (0.9 Mb) file of my castle overprints, type I on top, type II underneath (I think!).

Qatar link

Phil
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-26-07 at 08:17:06 PDT   Listings
220man… Thanks very much for the Oliver Wendell Holmes TYPE I & TYPE II comparisons. I didn’t realize they were that similar, in fact the two are practically identical. I will have to study my examples very closely.

Jeff-Raff... Happy Anniversary, dear…

?

Io... Nice ice(land)!!!

Jim
Posted by djs127   ( 599 ) on Aug-26-07 at 07:50:52 PDT   Listings
What is the URL for archives of this board? I saw from work that some people responded earlier in the week to my post last Sunday but they scrolled off when I checked last night.
David Snyder
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 412 ) on Aug-26-07 at 07:34:22 PDT   Listings
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Posted by 1covers   ( 1368 ) on Aug-26-07 at 06:37:07 PDT   Listings
A stamp is only as valuable (mint, used, on cover) as the places it takes your mind.
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on Aug-26-07 at 05:33:17 PDT   Listings
I am always seeking out USED stamps with scarcer postmarks and date cancels from post offices that were short lived. I love that part of the hunt.

I also enjoy collecting MINT comemmorative or definitive stamps either NH or LH in complete sets. They can be a joy to behold and give information regarding postal rates for a given time period.

Riff Chaff
Posted by philaweb   ( 266 ) on Aug-26-07 at 05:29:20 PDT   Listings
Good Morning/Day/Afternoon/Evening!

Nothing special.

Posted by lou4cards   ( 439 ) on Aug-26-07 at 04:59:08 PDT   Listings
My name is Lou and I'm a space filler. I've been clean for 7 days.

I collect both mint and used. I enjoy the used more than mint. I do not mix the two. I also have a binder for CTO.
My grand daughter seems to like the CTO for her collection of horses, dinos, flowers and like.

I buy on e-bay for an old timer (ex merchant marine) who started his collecting while traveling. He does not have or want a computer. His beloved collection is of mint sheets from places he has been. He has binders and binders of mint sheets from all over the world. He has small notes of what happened when he bought them. ex "Had to leave early due to storm coming. In hurry to leave left without new coustom suit I had made. It was still is at the shop 3 months later waiting for me to pickup." He loves to go through piles of stamps taking out what he likes. He then looks up some history or facts about the subject on the stamp. He then puts the stamp and what he found out on a 5 x 8 index card.



Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1384 ) on Aug-26-07 at 03:34:02 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
Posted by malolo   ( 850 ) on Aug-26-07 at 02:42:41 PDT   Listings
cc4db -
You find your favorite album page or cover and place in front of you on your desk. You then stand up with your hand on the item and say three times as quickly as you can, "I've licked hinges." You need a witness and reference to qualify for multiple posts on this Board.

Once you have followed the above rules, you scroll down this page and click on the "Philatelic Links and Other Resources" in the Yellow Boxes. That takes you to a link for Associations and Clubs open menu and Voila! You will find a row of links along the top of the page under "Stamp Users" which reads "Join Us!"

Of course if you fail the "lick hinge" pretest, it's unlikely you'll be able to find the links. Good luck and I welcome you to the Club. BTW - The membership roster is by eBay ID.

Roger
Fifth President of the eBay Users Stamp Club.
Posted by cc4db   ( 20 ) on Aug-26-07 at 01:08:20 PDT   Listings
Quick question, how do I join the ebay users stamp club?

Thank you for your help.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-25-07 at 23:36:27 PDT   Listings
Nice to see all the related EUSC posts.
I will not be around much tomorrow as my daughter is being ordained and we have a party afterwards.

I was curious that no one has noted any U.S. stamps that are worth more used than mint. While many other countries have many examples the U.S. has few. Still there are some it would be interesting to see how many ya'll can come up with.
I like mint or used but prefer not to mix sets. I could care less about gum but that of course is the most valueable part of a "unused" stamp, go figure???
Unused stamps without gum are seldom worth more than used.
A nice, clear "SON CDS" rules the roost for me, especially in a color other than Black.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-25-07 at 23:26:13 PDT   Listings
Here are the 3 stamps together. It didn't help me at all, I give up on this. But now someone with sharper eyes might have the answer?
Posted by oggilby   ( 1227 ) on Aug-25-07 at 21:58:56 PDT   Listings
A quick post between storms!

This is almost as annoying as the high tech items once posted in the stamps catagory!

Gotta go, another line coming through, lots of good cloud-to-cloud bolts to watch.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-25-07 at 21:15:13 PDT   Listings
RAINIER------The Stanley Gibbons catalog is clear,TYPE I is bolder and thicker letters .TYPE II are thinner letters .

We have JAY here and maybe someone else who can cut and paste both scans together to one picture .That would be the way to convince you .Its easy for me to bring up your scan and compare .But im not the type to disagree with anyone, OK,if you say so. ......paul

Posted by 22028   ( 1644 ) on Aug-25-07 at 20:45:38 PDT   Listings
Thanks to all the answers and suggestions about the Qatar overprints. To be honest, now i know as much as before..., there are so many different opinions, however, based on the catalog description in SG and Michel i believe mine are from type II...

Paul, thanks for the scan..., but, again, based on the catalogue description, i feel yours are type I and mine are type II...
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-25-07 at 20:33:51 PDT   Listings
Rainier,Dragonstamps,David B. and Flip138 Here is the scan to answer your questions and discussion .Rainier your scan is of type I , here is a scan of the type II.These are from my collection .QATAR .....PAUL
Posted by dbenson   ( 8509 ) on Aug-25-07 at 19:15:43 PDT   Listings
It is a matter of choice whether one collects mint, used, cto, covers, postal history or the myriad types of collecting that is available. Personally I like multiples especially if there are variances between different positions on the sheet and they can be either mint or used. I also like to obtain each stamp that was issued on a cover used for the purpose it was issued for.

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-25-07 at 19:08:46 PDT   Listings
Mint vs. Used? prexie never-hinged sets (such as this short set) can be had for pretty cheap, since so many of them were saved over the years. But some usages can be very scarce. Among the ones I have are—

  • International air parcel post. Tony Wawrukiewicz has broken down the rate for me since I mounted this piece on its album page, I just haven’t updated the page.
  • A very scarce parcel post surcharge 12¢ prexie solo usage.
  • Lastly, a very, very hard to find correct, appropriate period solo usage of the 14¢ prexie.
I hope to gather together some more items to show tomorrow. Been too busy woodworking today for stamps…

Jim
Posted by djs127   ( 599 ) on Aug-25-07 at 19:06:13 PDT   Listings
I have been collecting stamps since I was 8 and inherited my father's worldwide stamp collection 15 years ago when he passed away. My father collected used and mint stamps which he mounted on 3 holed xerox paper which he placed into binders by country or alphebtically for countries he had few stamps of.
When my father passed away I took hundreds of his stamp exchange sheets and sold them to a dealer at an upstate New York stamp show. I took the money and purchased some scott international pages and binders. I then started to remount my father's collection (which I still have not finished completely).

My father had more used stamps than mint so I mounted mostly used stamps in the internationals. This left me with pages of mint stamps still on xerox pages. I started purchasing scott specialty pages on Ebay for a few countries and put some of the mint stamps in them. Other countries which he had only a few mint stamps of I started to sell on Ebay.
Recently I purchased some Scott Brown reproduction pages which I am slowly intergrating into my international albums. When I remount the used stamps I will take the Scott international volume I pages and begin a worldwide 1840-1940 mint collection.

So in summary I collect used (using hinges) and mint stamps (some are already hinged by my father and others are in mounts) and also First day covers of Palestine, Israel, some US, Judaica topics, Great Britain and UN. I buy and sell on Ebay and do 1-2 stamp shows in New Jersey each year.

I like older used stamps pre 1940 especially and enjoy breaking down old collections and dealer lots.
David Snyder
Staten Island New York
Posted by riversniper   ( 90 ) on Aug-25-07 at 18:42:49 PDT   Listings
jaywild: Are you saying that If I put 50 cents worth of mint 5 cent US. Commodore Matthew C. Perry July 14,1853 5 cent green and first anchorage off Tokyo stamp it cant be used as US. postage?
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-25-07 at 18:33:37 PDT   Listings
NOIP… I should have added that when the Perry stamp, mentioned in my last post, was issued, US domestic postage was 3¢ an ounce, so the Perry 5¢ stamp had almost no uses for domestic postage.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-25-07 at 18:31:14 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Most US stamps issued during the 1950s aren’t worth beans either mint or used, such as Scott 1021, a 5¢ stamp commemorating the centenary of the “opening” of Japan in 1853. But to find them used properly in period and on cover is not so easy to do.

Jim
Posted by riversniper   ( 90 ) on Aug-25-07 at 18:28:23 PDT   Listings
palo: Well said. ~~~ James
Posted by 220man   ( 156 ) on Aug-25-07 at 16:39:09 PDT   Listings
bob in Wa: Used cover, but interesting.
Also non-philatelic usage.
Phil (also in Wa)
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-25-07 at 16:39:03 PDT   Listings
I collect Mint-Used
that is a stamp that the obliterator cds missed entirely.

Best of both worlds.

Posted by rclwa   ( 971 ) on Aug-25-07 at 16:21:35 PDT   Listings
Mint v Used -- I prefer unused for stamps in albums, whether thematic, country, or whatever. In addition to single stamps, I also like to find multiples, and proofs and essays.

I do not get excited about the gum side, however, and in fact love to save money when a stamp with uncommonly gorgeous centering and color is still cheap for lack of pristine gum.

I also enjoy postal history and uses and rates, and for that not only want used but on cover, in the correct time, using the correct rate, but non-philatelic. Off-cover used stamps, especially with indistinct smudge cancels, hold less interest for me, and I also subscribe to the ''until I can find a mint one'' philosophy for those.

A new factor in this debate is the advent of self-stick stamps, and as far as I know the jury is still out on the best way to collect them unused, whether to try to preserve the gum or to remove it, and if so how. We may not yet know the long term effects of the various chemical formulas used for these, and there may be some interesting surprises in decades to come. The first US self-stick, the 1975 Christmas 10 center, is now mostly seen as mottled and stained, and a flawless copy from which the gum was prudently removed in time may turn out to be a late 21st century rarity. Same story for many current items? Only time will tell.

Used stamps that are worth more than their mint counterparts are especially challenging to find on authentic covers sometimes. Some of the cheapest wallpaper that was designed for collectors may have seen very limited authentic use, even that contrived by collectors, and make for rather scarce and desirable covers.

Bob in WA
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-25-07 at 15:22:01 PDT   Listings
Roger: My father once received a few pages of mint Canadian stamps from an auction. KGVI era.
They were very very nice. Very pretty.
I saw the merits of collecting mint stamps that day!
I still prefer used, but I don't "dislike" mint stamps.
Posted by malolo   ( 850 ) on Aug-25-07 at 15:16:34 PDT   Listings
Paolo -
Good answer to Saphilatelics. I commented off Board as I don't wish to get anyone in trouble. ),>)
It is an interesting use and my best guess is that the Basel Type could have been in use on incoming mail which would explain its scarcity. People in Basel would have thrown away most incoming items unless they were different as is this example. This actually could be an example that demonstrates why Basel cancels didn't go all over the world. I have them mostly on local delivered items.
I have a few of this type now and have a couple in my new exhibit. Next on the agenda is preparing a single frame of the story and a Power Point presentation, which I've never done before! Then getting the new exhibit uploaded and working.

Roger
It's still a work day. My vote is for used stamps on cover. Though the prettiest pages I've ever seen were mint GV colonial sets - a complete album full. Breathtaking, and used couldn't compare.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-25-07 at 15:04:39 PDT   Listings
Phil: Tou've got both types, so I'd have to go with what you're saying. David Benson is right about the SG information. It needs to be upgraded. The two overprints they show are VERY similar. I'd say they are closer to the same than the 2 scans available to the forum.
But I agree, the scans look similar except for the "5".
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 14:40:43 PDT   Listings
James,
I read your posts and I fully understand & respect your point.
However, the currency inflation might as well ought to be taken in consideration as a factor in these terms:
what could you pay with 2 cents in 1945, and what can you pay now?
(Furthermore, between brackets, not every philatelist posting here is from or collects USA, me being one of the exceptions.)

Greetings,
Paolo
Posted by flip138   ( 389 ) on Aug-25-07 at 14:38:42 PDT   Listings
dragonstamps

For what my opinion is worth, I think your Qatar overprint is a type I - the bottom of the T goes pretty much straight across and has sharp corners. On my type II, the bottom of the T is rounded off.

It's difficult to give one simple distinguishing feature, because individual letters may be inked to varying degrees even on stamps from the same printing.

Phil
Posted by riversniper   ( 90 ) on Aug-25-07 at 14:32:17 PDT   Listings
I beg to differ: Mint USA stamps Do not have a term of validy, lol The face worth might not equal the increased cost of sending a letter, But the mint 2 cent US stamp will always be worth 2 cents face value.. ~~~~ James
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 14:28:43 PDT   Listings
Saphilatelics,
You're most welcome.
I strongly suggest, though, to wait for Roger's (malolo) response, whom I take the chance of personally inviting to share his educated guesses or conclusions.

All the best,
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 14:24:27 PDT   Listings
Not that I fully agree with it.
Two of my specialties are Sicily 1859 and the 100 lire 'family' Issue of 1945.
These are amongst the Issues richest of varieties I know.
Not forgetting the first Issue of Lombardy-Venetia.
An unused stamp of these can tell a fascinating story of its own.

Paolo
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 441 ) on Aug-25-07 at 14:23:30 PDT   Listings
vonbag

thank you for the information, I knew there were some people around who collect Switzerland, just couldn't remember who.

Much obliged!
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 14:19:12 PDT   Listings
"a mint stamp is dead after its term of validity;
a used postage stamp can speak,
a cover can tell a story."

Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 14:12:44 PDT   Listings
The problem of which at mine of Aug-25-07 at 05:02:50 PDT has been solved!
Seller miraculously found my payment... after PayPal message.

Paolo
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-25-07 at 13:52:42 PDT   Listings
If anyone has trouble using copy/paste, I guess I can log on with Iexplorer and post it right. :(
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-25-07 at 13:48:30 PDT   Listings
This browser won't co-operate with using links, but I'm forced to use it.
Anyway, is that type I? It's supposed to be...
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-25-07 at 13:46:38 PDT   Listings
http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/Dragonstamps/Qatar.jpg>Type1
Posted by philatarium   ( 236 ) on Aug-25-07 at 13:45:50 PDT   Listings
mint vs used: I have evolved (or more accurately, expanded my perspective) over time.

Initially, I only collected mint stamps (US as a child; Japan as an adult), and considered a used stamp to be a poke in the eye that I couldn't afford a mint copy yet, especially when I was younger and the stamp budget was really tight.

I've moved beyond that, but I think it's still fair to say that I really, really enjoy seeing post-office fresh, unused stamps. Like Jim/iomoon said, to me, the cancel interferes with the design and beauty of the stamp.

(I am less concerned about gum, but I understand why some collectors would be as obsessive about the back of the stamp as the front.)

All that said, thanks to my exposure to other collectors, stamp societies and later on the internet, I have really come to appreciate cancellations. In the Japan Specialized catalog (JSCA) there are pages and pages of additional pricing information for cancellation types for definitives and early commemoratives, and this has intrigued me enormously (and forced me to brush up on my kanji-reading skills). (In fact, in the more recent editions of the JSCA, the cancellation (and on-cover) pricing guide is published in a separate volume from the main listings, so that a collector can take that along to the stamp shows.)

So, I've expanded my scope of what interests me in stamps, and I now appreciate both mint and used. Consider my vote a "both/and", rather than an "either/or".

Vive la différence!

(And I've also really come to appreciate stamps on cover, but that's another topic ...)
Posted by flip138   ( 389 ) on Aug-25-07 at 13:39:06 PDT   Listings
I also have an outright forgery of the Qatar 10 rupee overprint - on a De la Rue basic Castle stamp! The Qatar overprints were only issued on Waterlow stamps. The font of the forgery is pretty close to the original, but the "Qatar 10 Rupees" is offset to the left. According to the study circle journal, only small numbers of this forgery exist so the reason for creating it is unclear.

I agree with David B and the other posters that the catalogue illustrations are not terrribly helpful. It is easier to identify the overprint type by comparison with reference copies, but it has taken me a lot of studying before I felt reasonably confident that I could distinguish them correctly.

Phil
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-25-07 at 13:38:44 PDT   Listings
Yeah you really need one of each types I+II right there with you to judge that one? I have a type I scan but the 5 on his looked a little different. The length of the bars is too tough to judge, because the scale is sort of unknown.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8509 ) on Aug-25-07 at 13:09:34 PDT   Listings
flip & 22028,

the problem with identifying the various types that were used Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar is that Gibbons does not show off the variances as much as they actually and they should replace them with better designs. I tend to agree with flip that they are type I but cannot ID them from your scan. Possibly if a scan of a single stamps instead of the piece might make it easier,

David B.
Posted by flip138   ( 389 ) on Aug-25-07 at 12:37:45 PDT   Listings
22028

Rainer, Although I am outvoted so far, I am pretty sure those Qatar 5 rupee stamps have the Type I overprint. The ends of the letters are more squared off on type I than on type II. I have a copy of each type, and yours look much more like my type I than my type II, especially the bottoms of the A's. Some day I will try and scan them together.

Phil
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 412 ) on Aug-25-07 at 11:59:15 PDT   Listings
Mint vs Used

I am of the old school. Postage stamps have a purpose.

Mint stamps are like child's stickers, pretty labels.

Used stamps fulfilled their purpose and tell an additional story.

Gum is another story. Gum destroys stamps, causing cracks and invites bugs. Gum should be removed from stamps as it only causes deterioration. Some "Original Gum" is one of the most valuable commodities in the world.

Now I go and put on my asbestos overcoat.
Posted by riversniper   ( 90 ) on Aug-25-07 at 11:37:19 PDT   Listings
consider this: Mint stamps are as good as money.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-25-07 at 11:31:52 PDT   Listings
I collect used most of the time. I also have mint stamps, sure, but used is my game.
A mint stamp never did the job it was made for. I guess that's my main reason. Also, collecting new WW stamps is too easy if you collect mint. All you need to do is sign up for new issue service. If that's what you want to do, that's fine for you.
It's not for me.
Posted by riversniper   ( 90 ) on Aug-25-07 at 11:27:09 PDT   Listings
Belay that last question: If the used canceled stamp was on lets say, a post card from Ann Frank, I would say it would be worth far more than a mint German Hitler stamp.
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 11:10:29 PDT   Listings
I agree with what Jim (IO) wrote, even though I am not a thematic collector.
To have a plate characteristic or a plate flaw unobscured by an eventual cancel is alaways a positive thing.
On the other hand, in the case of the plate fault or retouch, used copies with dated cancels can help reconstruct the genesis and evolution of the plate defect over the time.

Paolo
Posted by riversniper   ( 90 ) on Aug-25-07 at 11:09:32 PDT   Listings
Question: I am thinking that each one of us that collect stamps has a special stamp that seems just out of reach. If you could have that special stamp and you had a choice, the choice being you could own the new mint stamp or the used stamp. Which would you choose?
I rest my case ~~~ James
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-25-07 at 09:53:09 PDT   Listings
I prefer mint stamps for my thematic collection since they provide an unobscured view of the subject matter.

This view of Hofsjokull being an example.
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 09:14:24 PDT   Listings
What do I collect is written on my "me page".
As for the 'whys'.... ask to my psychiatrist LOL
Good continuation,
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 09:11:15 PDT   Listings
One should always be careful with giving info. on genuine cancels (or overprints, for that matter), or on what the fake cancels differ from the original,
especially on a public forum, and especially on eBay.
Paolo (sayonara)
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 09:05:07 PDT   Listings
FAKE cancels on GENUINE stamps:

A) Kgd. of Sardinia, 3 lire bright copper on thin paper:
Fake cancel_Napoli

B) Italy 1862, 80c. orange yellow:
Fake cancel_Livorno

Vaccari direct sales Catalogue value (2006/07):
A) unused, original gum: Euro 285,00 -- used, Euro 2100,00.
B) unused, original gum: Euro 40,00 -- used, Euro 1050,00.

Paolo


Posted by 220man   ( 156 ) on Aug-25-07 at 07:33:52 PDT   Listings
jaywild:
Type 1 [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/4kebjm0.jpg[/IMG]
Type 2 [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/67x83zl.jpg[/IMG]
Phil
Posted by dove3ducks   ( 475 ) on Aug-25-07 at 07:01:20 PDT   Listings
Morning Folks.......
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3755 ) on Aug-25-07 at 06:29:54 PDT   Listings

I collect used stamps on cover, an option not included in today's discussion.

On another note, today is my 10th Anniversary on eBay.

I am in the process of selling my building and consolidating everything into storage, home, or trash, this weekend is the final push.

packrat-raff

Posted by oggilby   ( 1227 ) on Aug-25-07 at 06:23:41 PDT   Listings
Greetings from the early bird in Central MD (HHH and in the upper 90's today).

I collect used modern US, 'cause I'm not sure how the S/A gum will hold up over the years to come. Of course there is always an exception as in my PNC mint collection and I still worry about those. Cancelled PNC's are a fave too! Worldwide, I get what I can get to fill my "holes". Cancelled stamps have always had a nice warm feeling to me of being actually used for their purpose (except for CTO's, but their nice too). No arguments over gum for me, who cares! Just give me an obliverated cancelled US stamp (and the USPS and Britain are getting better at it everyday, right Colin and ED?)!

Off to add CO2 to ozone layer, keep warmin' it (hee-hee)!
Posted by rolyrj   ( 6 ) on Aug-25-07 at 05:10:47 PDT   Listings
EUSC Meeting,

I collect Used for the following reasons:

1. I have a specialised collection of New Zealand Penny Universals. Now it would be relatively easy to simply go down to my local stamp dealer and open my wallet (wide) and buy the examples I need. The challenge for me is to try and find the examples I want Used. This requires a huge ammount of time under the magnifying glass !! The thrill is in the hunt I guess.

2. No trouble (in general) with gum deterioration and, in my experience, less problems with rusting/toning.

3. The added bonus or sub culture of collecting rarer postmarks within the wider collection of my Universals.

4. You don't get too many Mint stamps on nice covers :)

Cheers

Roly
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 05:02:50 PDT   Listings
An oddity:
An eBay seller, whom I have bought an item from recently, could not find on his/her records the payment I made with PayPal.
I have opened a dispute, since the due amount has been withdrawn from my account and the seller's data (e-mail, etc.) in the receipt correspond perfectly to those he communicated me.
Hope the thing settles.
I sure ain't gonna pay twice for an item I didn't even receive.

Paolo
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1384 ) on Aug-25-07 at 04:13:04 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

For me, collecting used adds a layer of difficulty that increases the fun of finding an acceptable stamp. Of course both the mint and used collector seek well centered copies, but the used collector then must consider the cancels affect on the appearance of the stamp.
Plus there is also the enjoyment of collecting cancels on whatever basis one wishes. Bullseye cancels do attract many. Due to the generally higher cost of mint stamps I’ve severely limited the areas I collect mint to allow more material. For a few countries I’ve at least one page of “duplicate” stamps kept just for the cancels.
Mint collections appear very much the same where used collections are often more interesting to peruse due to the various cancels.
When it comes to precancels, years ago many would not collect examples with gum as it was against postal regulations to have such without a permit for their use from that town. For other precancel collectors until a copy had been properly used it was not considered a legitimate type.

Jim L.


member
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-25-07 at 03:23:57 PDT   Listings
Kind of absum... image is so small.
But it's a type of Razor cancel of Basel that I couldn't find in Roger's exhibit: could be it's a type 2?
It has 8 shading lines in the upper circular segment and no end dots at the two ends of the date bar.
Razor cancellers were used only sporadically in Basel, thus are scarce.
More importantly, this razor is canceller of a French postage stamp,
type Mouchon retouched, 10 cents 'rose red' of 1902.
My guesses::
1. printed matter multiple weight rate from Paris to Luzern; the adhesive escaped cancellation in France and was cancelled transiting the Swiss border PO of Basel on its way to Luzern.
2. it's an artifact.

Paolo
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 441 ) on Aug-25-07 at 01:23:23 PDT   Listings
NOPI

I seem to recall there being one or two Switzerland specialists on here. Anything special about this wrapper?
http://images.andale.com/f2/121/113/25736907/2007/8/25/Switzerland.jpg

Any information on rate/usage/rarity/value is appreciated.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-25-07 at 00:03:06 PDT   Listings
To start the meeting out, here is a contribution from Alex who is away in Austria this week.
He asked me to post it as he is unable to do so himself.
It is regarding how to spot some of the forged Inflation cancels of Germany (circa 1920-23).
These stamps are all worth considerably more used than mint (as much as 500X), so forged cancels abound.

1. All stamps with a 24 hour date indication in the date bridge part of the cancel must be forged as that type of cancel only came into being in 1927. Inflation period stamps used the 12 hour indicator with either a V (vormittag = morning) or N (nachmittag = afternoon) after the date indicator.

2. All bridging type cancels without at least one star in the lower segment of the cancel are false as the star was removed from such cancels by official instruction in 1933. The only exception being some cancels from the Wuerttemberg area and for those only an expertizer can say which have been genuinely used.

3. Stamps with cancels dated outside the stamps actual postal usage period are more often than not also forged cancels.

4. Throughout the Infla period the cancel colour was greyish-brown - black and matt in appearance. It was also often a smearable type of ink and quite sooty looking. After 1924 the cancel colour was oily looking, jet-black and often very shiny.

5 There are over 1500 listed known forged cancels and these are all listed in the Infla-Berlin book Band (volume)13. Further help and advise on this subject is available from Band 48 "Gebrauchte Inflationsmarken - echt oder falsch " but that needs an understanding of German to follow it clearly.

6 In some cases only a competant expertizer can sort the genuine from the forged due to known fraudulent use of stolen genuine cancels. But the above tips I hope will be of some assistance to anyone collecting the Inflation period of 1923. Basically one needs to be careful when buying the higher priced used items. The reason why there is such a vast difference in prices is that in some cases the stamps were hardly ever actually used due to very short lived postal rates which made some stamp almost invalid before they were even distributed.


Below are Pages from my collection that pertain to these issues. I do collect mint and used for most of early Germany.
The inflation era would be a very tough area if one collects only used and quite easy for mint collectors. Someday when I find some duplicate pages I will seperate them, for now it is usually mint on top of the used.
Without doubt I have many forged cancels, identifying them will also be a future project. You will notice there are quite a few stamps issued in a short period of time.

page 1
page 2
page 3
page 4
page 5
page 6
page 7
page 8


Here is an interesting article on these issues.

Mitchell
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-24-07 at 23:59:57 PDT   Listings
E U S C
Ebay Users Stamp Club Meeting

For August 2007, is now in session and will conclude 12:00 Midnight (ebay time) August 26th.

The meetings topic will focus on the age old battle of collecting mint or used.

It would be nice to hear from everyone on their preferences and the reasons why they prefer one to the other
(or why they don't necessarily have a preference).
This topic will also include those stamps that are worth more used than mint and why. I find the reasons of
why used stamps are sometimes worth many times that of their mint counterparts, quite interesting.

Also anyone with info on how to help identify fake cancels on these more valueable "used" stamps,
would be most welcome!


Posted by keleofa   ( 3505 ) on Aug-24-07 at 18:15:45 PDT   Listings
Nomad,

Excellent!!!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by nomad55   ( 917 ) on Aug-24-07 at 17:50:20 PDT   Listings
Arizona Matt.....I'm sending you a package tomorrow.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3505 ) on Aug-24-07 at 17:18:52 PDT   Listings
5630boating3

Stamps are forged and faked, valuable cancels are faked, paper types are faked. Among the ways to determine this are reference collections, philatelic libraries, expertising services and just plain old experience.

eBay is not clairvoyant --- that warning comes up for everyone!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by 5630boating3   ( 47 ) on Aug-24-07 at 16:49:09 PDT   Listings
How can you tell if stamps are authentic or not. I was about to sell some which were purchased from canada and a window came up stating "be sure of authenticity" and stuff about ebay policy on fraud. Aren't stamps, stamps. I really dont know how to tell. These are in a sealed envelope from Weeda Stamps Ltd. Vancouver, BC. They also some look like they have an ink mark over them as if they been stamped over and used.
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-24-07 at 16:24:24 PDT   Listings
NOIP… I just went to the eBay “Playground” and it is just another useless piece of shit. One more useless, irritating goad to get you to buy things you have no interest in.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-24-07 at 15:52:09 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Does anybody know a good site where I can compare the types of the 15¢ Prominent American Oliver Wendell Holmes? I tried these guys but the images they supplied were way too small, and their description too scant. Scott of course was not helpful—in a situation where an illustration would be most instructive, they made do with a couple of unclear remarks.

Anyone?

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-24-07 at 15:38:07 PDT   Listings
Roger… This quote you posted from eBay—"Winning on eBay is a big part of the great experience you have on eBay and we want you to win faster, more often and have even more fun than ever before"—has to be among the dumbest things I have ever heard. Can you imagine what it must be like to work for people who encourage that kind of “thinking”? Thank God the worst thing I ever had to do job-wise was sit through accounting meetings.

?

Paolo... Yes, the thumbnails that open up to an image smaller than the thumbnails are really beyond belief. Who could be that dumb? (“Dumb” in the sense of “not intelligent”, rather than “lacking the ability to speak”.)

Jim
Posted by riversniper   ( 90 ) on Aug-24-07 at 15:35:04 PDT   Listings
Call me silly. I would think that a mint star tab block plate stamp would be worth more money than a used stamp.
Thanks ~~~ James
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-24-07 at 15:01:20 PDT   Listings
1 Gulden is less than Euro 0,50 (50 eurocents).
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-24-07 at 14:57:17 PDT   Listings
For who doesn't know Dutch circuit books, these are some as an example:
here.
Notice that the "waarde" (= value, of the booklet) is in Gulden ("f") and that the booklets have been picked already... the value on the front of the booklet refers to the ENTIRE booklet. The detractions, after the books have circulated -- like the ones in that auction --, are made at the final page on the booklet dust cover reverse.

Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-24-07 at 14:45:45 PDT   Listings
Nice topic, Mitch!

I will show some 'non Blum' Swiss fake cancels, for a change. These are deceiving, I think, not because well executed but because they are on relatively inexpensive adhesives, that would, for which the cost of an "expertise" would be inappropriate.

Paolo (can't stay up so late, but looks like I already started before)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-24-07 at 14:20:09 PDT   Listings
E U S C
Ebay Users Stamp Club Meeting

For August 2007, will commence at 12:00 Midnight, tonight (ebay time) August 24th and end midnight August 26th.

The meetings topic will focus on the age old battle of collecting mint or used.

It would be nice to hear from everyone on their preferences and the reasons why they prefer one to the other
(or why they don't necessarily have a preference).
This topic will also include those stamps that are worth more used than mint and why. I find the reasons of
why used stamps are sometimes worth many times that of their mint counterparts, quite interesting.

Also anyone with info on how to help identify fake cancels on these more valueable "used" stamps,
would be most welcome!



Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-24-07 at 14:16:24 PDT   Listings
"with certificate for..." ~ certificated as
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-24-07 at 14:11:33 PDT   Listings
Just found in my old bookmarks an image of another fake cancel of Sicily on an apparently genuine 50g (the stamp is rare used and scarce unused): here
with certificate for FAKE cancel.
Notice the part at top.

Jim (Jaywild),
That bothers me as well.
A real PITA are those that when you click on it seem to become even smaller.

Greetings,
Paolo

Posted by jaywild   ( 973 ) on Aug-24-07 at 14:06:43 PDT   Listings
NOIP… I guess some folks never learn. In this image, the top is the “thumbnail” while the bottom is the “supersize” image. I mean, why even bother???

?

Jim
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1384 ) on Aug-24-07 at 13:13:56 PDT   Listings
Greetings,

The “new search” is great (NOT). Every time I try to open a bookmarked search for precancels in a new tab my browser shuts down and I have to log back into eBay again. Then when I open the same search in the open window lots I’ve not checked pop up. Guess they don’t want me seeing anything I'd bid on anything today.

Jim L.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1384 ) on Aug-24-07 at 12:55:35 PDT   Listings
Just a bookmark posting before a busy evening.
Posted by malolo   ( 850 ) on Aug-24-07 at 12:47:16 PDT   Listings
Jeff -

Many, many years ago on an ocean trip to England from LA, I had the opportunity to stop at Acapulco, Panama, Jamaica, Miami, Bermuda, and Lisbon. I will let you guess at which stops we were overwhelmed by hawers of lottery tickets!
I came to the conclusion 40 years ago that the poorer the country the more likely there would be lotteries. I'm of the opinion that our way off life has been downgraded so much from our parent's time that we now accept lotteries and gambling as a way to "make money". The government supports gambling, it's just a matter of zoning. And poker is all over TV showing guys (and gals) winning huge stacks of money, not showing the thousands who go home minus their entry fees.
The success of eBay is based on the continuous treasure hunt atmosphere, and this mentality will continue. I showed some auctions I won at ridiculous prices yesterday, but I've also bought items at I'll call full retail. There are two I'm watching now and I hope the high starting prices will keep away bidders. My high snipe at the end will (he writes wistfully) win the auction for me. Why are these auctions interesting? Because it seems there was another type of deCoppet cancel produced by Guller prior the issuance of the standard Fleuron devices in 1903. I've seen them a couple of times before but didn't know they were in the Guller flexible head proof book tarted in 1903. Much more research to be done!

Roger
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-24-07 at 12:32:18 PDT   Listings
After testing the updated design in our""" Finding """""Playground, as well as talking extensively with members on our discussion forums, we're moving it out to the eBay.com site slowly over the next few days. We want to hear what you think about the new look, so we've started a new thread on our
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-24-07 at 12:27:29 PDT   Listings
Oops, that should have been Neapolitans.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3755 ) on Aug-24-07 at 12:23:20 PDT   Listings

IO - ironically my 4 favorite ice cream flavors are
vanilla
chocolate
strawberry

and

neopolitan

thatswhyi'mafatboy-raff

malolo - they make it sound like a Las Vegas promotion

luckyonlyatlove-raff

Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-24-07 at 12:01:00 PDT   Listings
I wonder if this seller know there are no volcanoes in Switzerland.
And Neopolitans look a lot different from Swiss.
Posted by malolo   ( 850 ) on Aug-24-07 at 11:33:24 PDT   Listings
prochute -
You are not a good eBay community member. Pro posted below eBay's goal for you.
"Winning on eBay is a big part of the great experience you have on eBay and we want you to win faster, more often and have even more fun than ever before. "

"randomly reading feedback" is not productive to the bottom line. You should be searching and buying faster. Enough is enough already!

No need to worry about eBay rules, you are just sharing public information.

Roger
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on Aug-24-07 at 11:18:06 PDT   Listings
vonbag To use a seller's name in that respect is probably against eBay's rules. Besides, I doubt if I could find the seller again since i was randomly reading feedback early this morning.
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-24-07 at 08:30:50 PDT   Listings
Prochute,
That's unheard of!
I think that the seller in question would deserve to be publicized here for his/her deed.
Paolo
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-24-07 at 08:11:34 PDT   Listings
Rainer: I'd vote for type II also, but the 2 types look too similar for me to be certain. (SG 1979 book)
The "5" on yours more closely matches the type 2 illustration in the book.
(thinner font)
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on Aug-24-07 at 06:27:39 PDT   Listings
NOIP Talk about abuse of the feedback system. I just found a seller who posted negative feedback to a buyer because (get this), "Did not leave feedback on receipt of item". Seems to be caveat emptor on a whole new level.

Riff Lornton; esq. & catalogue queen
Posted by jimbo   ( 405 ) on Aug-24-07 at 06:02:35 PDT   Listings
Rainer,
Here's what Gibbons (1999 Commonwealth) has to say about the two types:
"Type I: Type-set overprints. Bold thick letters with sharp corners and straight edges. Bars close together and usually slightly longer than in Type II.
"Type II: Plate-printed overprints by Harrison. Thinner letters, rounded corners and rough edges. Bars wider apart."

That's not much to go on but my general impression is that the overprints on your illustration are Type II. But I'm sure someone will come along with the correct answer.

jimbo (nee catalog queen)
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3755 ) on Aug-24-07 at 05:42:30 PDT   Listings

jay-Jim - Thanks, cye

NOIP - I have a new e-mail address and already my spam filter has picked out 15 e-mails headed Question from ebay member I bit on one a week ago and it was a solicitation to sell something. And of course they do not show up in the My Messages on My Ebay.

I don't know if it is an organized pfishing expedition or what, but I suggest caution to others.

paranoid-raff

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1384 ) on Aug-24-07 at 05:09:57 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
Posted by 22028   ( 1644 ) on Aug-24-07 at 03:48:42 PDT   Listings
I do not have a specialist catalogue of British Middle East. Could someone let me know if the overprint of the Qatar stamps (GB stamps, overprinted for the use in Qatar) is from type 1 or type 2?
http://fuchs-online.com/auction/qatar-14.jpg (570 KB, 600 dpi)
Posted by vonbag   ( 180 ) on Aug-24-07 at 02:17:47 PDT   Listings
Good day all!

White-owls,
...If bags not transparent, take out stamps before scanning. Wish inherited somethink like that.
Organize: stamp catalog at local library.
Good luck!

Paolo san ( "bag always useful, keep sward hidden"! Paloto Bagayouko sensei, era Tokugawa from an Hokkaido island)
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 412 ) on Aug-23-07 at 19:15:59 PDT   Listings
white-owls put the bags on a scanner and post a LINK to the image. It sounds like a bulk lot. Search eBay stamps for kiloware. What years are the stamps? (look at the cancellations).
Posted by white-owls   ( 77 ) on Aug-23-07 at 18:50:09 PDT   Listings
Hi everyone! I recently inherited a stamp collection. Well, I don't know if you can call it a collection, more like 6 zip lock bags packed full of stamps. How do I even begin to organize or find out if I have anything valuable?

Thanks!
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 412 ) on Aug-23-07 at 18:36:24 PDT   Listings
Billsey It looks like things overheated. Maybe you need to give it a spritz to get the link back on line.
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Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-23-07 at 18:21:28 PDT   Listings
SAPHILATELICS Thanks for getting out the correct information ,I will update the article on my album page . First its not my note{as stated here} it is a article written in 1967 .Second the stamp is different .So the information about chemical treatment is relevant and still applicable to someone collecting that issue .......paul
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1990 ) on Aug-23-07 at 18:07:22 PDT   Listings
pro: I think that is indeed Rock Harbor -- there is enough spacing for the last couple of letters off the edge...

There were a few articles on the post offices of the Florida Keys in La Posta not so long ago -- lots of illustrations. You may want to chase that down.
Posted by nomad55   ( 917 ) on Aug-23-07 at 17:38:27 PDT   Listings
Roger.....got your message. I'm going to pass on that cover, common cancellation. Tied seal on the back had some interest, but not much.
But thanks for the heads up.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1685 ) on Aug-23-07 at 17:06:16 PDT   Listings
My wife got a birthday card today sent through the mail but with no stamp, and no evidence a stamp had even been one it.
See here:

Cover Without Stamp

Is it worth keeping?

Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-23-07 at 16:04:07 PDT   Listings
Like any attack, everything can be split in three parts, if sword is sharp enough.

(Kimafuso Lamoto sensei, 13th century)
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-23-07 at 16:00:27 PDT   Listings
All good what paid for and received, or taken.
No good what paid and not received.
Best what not paid but received.

(whistling oriental wisdom from blinking Shoes ;-)
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-23-07 at 15:52:33 PDT   Listings
Hi Burton san!
Life is good in flooded Shoes (also good weather, for a change).
If you want info. or an eye check on any Aitalian area stamp just ask (I am better with oldies, though, up to until about 1950).
Thanks for your kind post!
Greetings,
Paolo
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 457 ) on Aug-23-07 at 15:32:58 PDT   Listings
Pro the HAR(B)-- is too far off center of cds to be HARD (nice Feb14 too!)

I'll be away for the weekend, leaving now, so will miss the monthly meeting displays. We are attending an Antique Collectables State Show in the country (Maryborough,Vic) and competitivly showing two of our InkWell collections. Hubby's first nights away from home since his brain surgery 2 years ago. I'm as excited as if we were heading out on a long voyage!
have a fun weekend, I'll be reading again on Monday.

Linda

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-23-07 at 15:22:15 PDT   Listings
You guys must be right Descyphered the notation on the card mailed from "Matecumbe key"
Rock Harbor was close.

From Fihing Boat They were headed to "Shark River"
hoping for full nets.
Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-23-07 at 15:02:44 PDT   Listings
Pro -
Rock Harbor

Roger
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-23-07 at 14:16:10 PDT   Listings
MATT L

ROCK-Hard

Richard W
seems like 1 in 9 or 10 to me
But that would be based on a sample of 100 or so.
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-23-07 at 13:56:47 PDT   Listings
postalhysteria… Durn! Drat! Dagnabbit!

I cain’t hardly find yore Montague address, so praps you kin kindly send me a email bout it…

jfdire
“atâ€
sbcglobal
“dotâ€
net

☺

Jim
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 441 ) on Aug-23-07 at 13:43:13 PDT   Listings
knuden,
the article Paul linked to refers to the 50 Thousand Mark in a brown olive shade, not the dark ochre (Michel 275a) or brown ochre (Michel 275b) shades catloged by Michel. It used to be considered rare ages ago, but is now considered to have originated from printer's waste (see note in Michel Germany Specialized).
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-23-07 at 13:11:12 PDT   Listings
There was a Rock Bottom in Massachusetts but it seems the entire population all hit it!
Posted by sayasan   ( 715 ) on Aug-23-07 at 12:21:07 PDT   Listings
due - yes, that's the slogan. Thanks. Much more scarce, IMHO, than the purple handstamp to the same effect in conjunction with the normal cancel.
Posted by jimbo   ( 405 ) on Aug-23-07 at 11:41:04 PDT   Listings
pro,
Nope, never heard of it. However, I don't do much with Florida postal history. I do know that almost all Monroe County stuff other than the standards like Key West and Chokoloskee are scarce and uncommon. For example, Florida Stampless Postal History 1763-1861 only records two Monroe County listings: Indian Key and Key West. Almost all of the dpos in Southwest Florida (Lee, Collier, Charlotte, and Hendry Counties are really hard to find. The ones before 1920 are mostly in the category of rarities. They're almost all in the show and tell category and get responses like, "I never heard of that one before. Just where was it?"

jimbo
Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-23-07 at 11:21:50 PDT   Listings
tygerkyger -
You stick as many as you can into the album to make it loook full. The stamps must be in the correct places which means borrowing a catalogue from your library. Then you describe any stamps with a cat value over $100, scan the most valuable pages, and list on eBay. Then you will find out what the collection is owrth.

Of course, after all the resarch you will probably discover that it was fun and decide to expand the collection because very few of the samps are likely to have any real value. Or you can try to find out via Boy Scouts or some other group whether there are any kids in your area who collect stamps. You can then give the collection away and probably receive a nice "Thanks" letter in return. Could be worth more than the money you get from eBay.


oggilby -
I went to Hollabird in 1967. Not bad place to be stationed for 4 months. Dumpy part of town is a compliment.

NOIP -
New search is very difficult to skim quickly. I tnk eBay is trying to have new customers find items quicker, thus relieving bandwidth. The "Finding team" seems to think we are all buying on eBay in an attempt to undercut Walmart prices on everyday stuff. The new "assistance" we will get in the ranking of items returned in our searches can only benefit the largest eBay sellers. Wait till the Chinese corporations get going, you aint seen nothin' yet.

Roger
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1990 ) on Aug-23-07 at 11:17:48 PDT   Listings
pro: no, but there is Rock Harbor in the keys - that's probably what it is. Don't despair, though. Monroe Cty. also had a post office called "Perky".

Posted by tygerkyger   ( 206 ) on Aug-23-07 at 10:45:18 PDT   Listings
Hi I do not collect stamps anymore but did avidly when I was kid. Collection is about 40 years old. I have thousands and thousands of stamps sorted by countries.(most are loose some are in stamp book)
How do I find out value before I sell.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 915 ) on Aug-23-07 at 09:51:10 PDT   Listings
vonbag Hi Paolo, Thanks for the additional information concerning the Austrian stamp I had posted about earlier.

Much appreciated, Jimbo2
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-23-07 at 09:10:44 PDT   Listings
JIMBO

Ever seen or have on a list the post office
"Rock Hard" Fla Monroe County
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-23-07 at 08:37:33 PDT   Listings
It's Not a Great Strike BUT I did not have the Kalamazoo
Carrier Mark.

Kalama
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-23-07 at 07:58:17 PDT   Listings
SAYASAN

This IndicatedBYstamps

Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-23-07 at 07:50:51 PDT   Listings
Never mind! I found it.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-23-07 at 07:45:59 PDT   Listings
NOIP… By the way, I subscribed to the “Search complaint†board so I can be notified of new messages, but now I can’t find out how to unsubscribe. Anybody know? The furious messages have been arriving at a rate of one per minute. I don’t need to see any more.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-23-07 at 07:43:55 PDT   Listings
Dave F… Thanks for the link to the “Search Furor†discussion. Man, I have never seen so many unhappy people. Nobody likes this latest eBay POS, and yet the pinkies who post there blithely ignore every complaint. They have been trained, much like circus monkeys, to follow an establish pattern of reactions, none of which addresses the enormous problems create by this insane new eBay leap.

Is Google really thinking of starting a new auction site? Boy, I sure wish they would hurry. I would dump eBay like a bad habit.

The search is still f****d up this morning. On my screen, the “search†box has been obliterated because other elements of the design, crowded out of somewhere else, now lie atop it, so no data can be entered.

I think I know how homicidal maniacs are created…

☺

Jim
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-23-07 at 07:32:16 PDT   Listings
THINES

I saw a handful of these Registered

The condition is eehh'
But I got one just as an example.
what to see more
Posted by oggilby   ( 1227 ) on Aug-23-07 at 06:59:20 PDT   Listings
Jeff-raff--yes Balmer has quite the impressive port, especially looking at it from the south from the Harbor Tunnel Thruway. But between steel plants closing up and GM too and Ft Holabird (where I got my draft inspection) being closed, the town ain't what it use to be. I had many Polish relatives who worked in the steel mills there. Haven't met Mr Harrison but did get to meet Mr. Ripken, Mr. Palmer & Mr. Murray.
Posted by oggilby   ( 1227 ) on Aug-23-07 at 06:52:23 PDT   Listings
Ciao Paolo! How's life in wooden shoe land? I've been trying to fill my "holes" in my common/not-so-common Italy collection. My wifey calls it my EYE-TALIAN collection.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3755 ) on Aug-23-07 at 06:47:26 PDT   Listings

oggilby - Horace Harrison was a big Orioles fan. You ever do any stamping with him?

I went to Baltimore once about 5 years ago. My brother-in-law was moving from Dallas to CA and the cost of a rental truck was pretty high. He found a race car trailer on eBay and we drove 2 days up to get it and 2 days back. The shipyard was impressively huge.

The guy he bought the trailer was a car nut, he had found locally in parts in a garage some rare 1969 Camaro and sold it on eBay for something like $125,000. Was moving from Baltimore to a little farm in PA he bought with the proceeds.

travel-raff

Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-23-07 at 06:31:43 PDT   Listings
Last day of validity of the 10c. special rate for the Tuscan provinces:
Ambulante_Firenze_Massa_per_Livorno_31.12.1862
on reverse other TPO transit postmark and receiver of Livorno.
The 10c. adhesive is the better shade 'reddish brown' (Sass. N. 14Cn).
Paolo
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-23-07 at 05:41:15 PDT   Listings
Oggibly

I would watch baseball if they scored alot

"" MMMMM Score alot """
homer S.

Yes in my papeer yesterday But it did not fully sink in till
I realized "Hey, I use those machines'
Posted by oggilby   ( 1227 ) on Aug-23-07 at 05:32:06 PDT   Listings
Greetings to all!

due2cents' revelation really stinks. The machines are the only way I can get my PNC strips of "lick em" coils. With the machines gone, why will the USPS even produce these types of coils? USPS is doing it's best to bite the ass of their true customers, the stamps collecting public. In addition to all the crazy first class rates now in effect these days (to stiff for 41 cents et.al.), the office hours that also stink and clerks that aren't kept up-to-date with policies, email (except for spam)& and electronic payments get better all the time.

Gloomy Central MD with 5+ days without sunshine and the rain finally went away & my beloved Orioles lose a real stinker last nite, 30-3, a game that was really painful to watch.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-23-07 at 05:09:01 PDT   Listings
NO MORE STAMP MACHINES

With the notice that ALL the Stamp dispensing machines at ALL
post offices with be yanked.

Now getting the OTHER stamps you might need
I use many values

Is going to be hard.
DO YOU think this is good or bad
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-23-07 at 05:06:37 PDT   Listings
K.E.

Nice Cover
Posted by knuden   ( 2306 ) on Aug-23-07 at 04:37:12 PDT   Listings
Paul - Your note is unfortunately hopeless out of date. Sc. 239b is known in more than one sheet and has now a value of UM $6.00. (Re: Michel)
Here is a cover with more 239a expertzed. :O)

K.E  I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1383 ) on Aug-23-07 at 04:03:24 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-23-07 at 03:54:08 PDT   Listings
"shiled" = shield
It is the dotted background of the central shield that was re-engraved. The bottom border of the shield was also slightly retouched (cleaned) on its bottom right portion.
The first stereotype of the 15c. type III was obtained by a cliché of the 10 centes denomination. For the printing it were used first electrotypes (plate 4 and 5), then hardened stereotypes (plate 6) all on hand-made paper. Then later, they went back to printing with electrotypes (plate A and B)...
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-23-07 at 03:46:13 PDT   Listings
Something interesting from a worldwide collection.Since any hope of "completing" it is a impossibitly.The goal has to be adjusted to make it interesting .Here is one of the items that keeps it fun and interesting to put together .Hope to have thousands if not tens of thousands of items like this .German inflation issue .....off to try and work in all this rain and wet ground ,days and days of heavey rain....paul
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-23-07 at 03:45:08 PDT   Listings
Good day all!

HungaryJim,
... post office in the province of Rovigo (Veneto.
Your 15 centes is a type III, I would think on machine-made paper and this would make it a usage after 1854: printing with electrotypes, the color appears to be one of the vermilion shades (~ verimilion rose) and the shiled has been re-engraved in three directions: plate A.
But I could be wrong!
This is the last type of canceller of Santa Maria Maddalena (RO), impressed in black (as always this type), and it is not scarce on the first Issue of Lombardy - Venetia.

Roger,
Coincidentally that seller has also some Swiss items up!

Paolo
Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-22-07 at 23:28:43 PDT   Listings
Well I see a seller has the Calculate your postage pull down menu which keywords every country in the world. For those of us who search using a country name, it's the kiss of death!
http://cgi.ebay.com/PORTUGAL-ACORES-1980-FIRST-DAY-ISSUE-COVER_W0QQitemZ290153562162

The pull down is not seen as a problem by eBay. We went through communications a few years ago debating the issue.

So much for eBay starting new search options when the can't even fix the old problems.

Roger
Next step, delete seller from my searches, should make him happy.
Posted by philatarium   ( 236 ) on Aug-22-07 at 21:28:39 PDT   Listings
Jim/jaywild: I wasn't entirely sure whether your comment of 21:13 trumped your comment of 21:08 about not being able to find the "Search" board.

In case it didn't, or in case someone else needs to find it, it's here:

http://forums.ebay.com/db1/forum.jspa?forumID=80

(I never knew it existed until webpaper mentioned it.)
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 21:13:55 PDT   Listings
NOIP… I have to say, it’s a complete wonder that eBay has not completely exploded before now. I can’t remember ever reading about a group more isolated from reality than the executives at eBay. And they don’t learn from experience! You’d think someone there would remember the disaster they caused when they “improved†the chatboard fonts etc. But no! They couldn’t wait to start a whole new disaster.

All I can say is, G F D T, G F D T A T H.

☺

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 21:08:55 PDT   Listings
webpaper… Sorry, I can’t find the “search boardâ€. EBay’s Q&A board is just people gossiping about cats. Surely there is somewhere in this idiotic organization to voice a complaint, or ask one of the bozos what they are hoping to accomplish…

Jim
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3755 ) on Aug-22-07 at 21:04:53 PDT   Listings

JW-jim - I find myself in an apples-oranges situation. We are actually talking about 2 different NEW pages.

I once again got linked to a new test page format which has 3 horizontal lines of information with each listing including feedback rating and WATCH THIS ITEM link.

I now see that the rest of you are discussing the actual new current layout which I only noticed after my last post.

If any of you don't like the new IMPROVED look, wait until the one they are testing hits the streets.

Thanks for the commem cover sending, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I have a new mailing address in Montague, no longer in Bowie, it is listed on all my selling pages (I HOPE)

went to the dentist this morning and am a bit cranky still-raff

Posted by webpaper   ( 1556 ) on Aug-22-07 at 19:52:25 PDT   Listings
jaywild,
You are probably on the new search page released today. Lots of white space and my eyes last about 10 minutes. There is no opt out because this is it. See numerous posts on the search board....
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 915 ) on Aug-22-07 at 19:12:45 PDT   Listings
1covers WOW! Thanks, Richard!
I owe you one, Jimbo2.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 473 ) on Aug-22-07 at 19:02:30 PDT   Listings
Jaywild: Wiggle the rabbit ears!
(An old solution to reception problems for 1950's tv)
Get newer software, that's what you're being "pushed" into.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1367 ) on Aug-22-07 at 19:00:58 PDT   Listings
S.M. Maddalena
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 18:42:46 PDT   Listings
postalhysteria… Where is the link at the bottom of the page to go back to the old search? Does the bottom of your pages look different? I can’t for the life of me find an “old search†link.

By the way, I have come across some single use 60s commemorative covers which will be on their way to you as soon as I get a spare moment.

Jim
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 915 ) on Aug-22-07 at 18:30:44 PDT   Listings
Hi All: It's been awhile since I've posted to the board, but have been reading it every day, and now I could use some help in identifying a town cancel that is from a area I don't collect.
If anyone knows what this is I would greatly appreciate it.
Jimbo2
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-22-07 at 16:45:27 PDT   Listings
Nice 1866 cover Razor Roger

I too have been finding many low priced items.
I've just been doing it in the field.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 457 ) on Aug-22-07 at 15:33:01 PDT   Listings
.....
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-22-07 at 15:11:58 PDT   Listings
PS: you gave the seller's ID away!
I will monitor him 24h per day! LOL
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-22-07 at 15:09:43 PDT   Listings
Gee Wiz, Roger san,
Now, those are true bargains you got there! (or bargins-stels, if you wish!)
Congrats on purchasing those items at those prices!

At the moment, I must say I have been buying a little overpriced...and, as of these last few days, I am not even receiving the items I paid for (with redundant shipping cost)! (bloody hell!).

Paolo

Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-22-07 at 14:57:13 PDT   Listings
Due -
I so excited I'm doing the week's laundry while writing on chat boards, instead of searching on eBay. I would buy faster and more often if eBay would get rid of the clutter it causes when a seller is allowed to list all the countries he stocks in inventory! That's just for starters. I have fun when I win, such as this past week:
1. Scroll to very scarce forwarding use.
2. Nice price (1)
3. Nice price (2)
4. Nice price (3)
5. Nice price (4)
6. Nice price (5)
7. This is my favorite from recent month. Goes into my "refused" collection.

They didn't make much money for anyone, but I won fast, often, and I'm happy eBay buyer. I'm certain, not quite what marketing had in mind.

Roger



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Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3755 ) on Aug-22-07 at 14:55:47 PDT   Listings

re new search page - I was getting it too. There is a clickety-click at the bottom to go back to the old search.

Some of us were getting this 3 months ago and our groans fell upon deaf ears here who were not subject to it.

I think the groans are becoming louder and more abundant.

I concur with Roger about the multiple lines per listing. It definitely is a clutter. Save the crap about feedback and {watch this item} for the item page.

If this goes thru, eBay has 2 choices -

1. Change name to Yahoo

Fire Bill Cobb for gross stupidity.

vocal-raff

Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-22-07 at 14:40:23 PDT   Listings
Ken C.,
Interesting you mentioned being operated to the cataracts:
the father of my wife (whom I do not call 'father in law' because I only had one father and it's dead since I was 14!) was operated to one eye. I brought it at the private hospital myself. After two weeks he had to get his other eye fixed (fortunately we're not cyclops that had three, that would have meant more money ;-0). But, him being an artist (not one of the 'con' type LOL), he soon realised his operated eye had lost some 'definition'.
Thus, he decided not to be operated to the other eye.

But now, how in the blinking heck can I make this philatelic?
Shoertly: Impossible! In my family here in Holland all of them have developed an allergy to it! ;-(

Paolo
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-22-07 at 14:29:13 PDT   Listings
...---...

"Winning on eBay is a big part of the great experience you have on eBay and we want you to win faster, more often and have even more fun than ever before. "
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-22-07 at 14:26:26 PDT   Listings
But the Plan of all the changes

as they roll out like a tepid tide

Is to make you more excited, hAppier,

I can get the exact quote if needed.

I have been sneeking a peek at the new stuff

and IMHO the have decided that if you ever find what you are REALLY searching for you WILL jump with JOY and Satisfaction. Just because you know it's there you used to "FIND" it all the time.


"Schiznit"

What could possibly be cooler than licking Stamps.

Or as my girl says (think Young Frankenstein here)
NO TONGS NO TONGS

The harder the MAZE the sweeter the Reward :-{
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 14:23:21 PDT   Listings
schiznit… Nope.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 14:15:36 PDT   Listings
NOIP… I wrote to one of the mucky-mucks at eBay in hopes that someone can do something about the screwed up Search page. Now it is impossible to enter any data in the “Search†field, and if I can’t do a search I can’t find what I’m looking for and if I can’t find anything to buy the sale won’t be made and eBay will lose money!!

But I doubt my missive will get them moving. My entreaties during the time they were “fixing†the fonts on the chatboard page fell on deaf ears, or blind eyes.

Jim
Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-22-07 at 13:56:10 PDT   Listings
Jim -
The worst problem with the new search page is the insistance of eBay to show auctions on two lines. This creates an interruption between every single title. The old pages always had the Item number and price off to the right, now they are under the title and slows visual scanning of the page. Do the designers of these pages really think we stop to read every single part of a listing. Haven't they ever heard of "skimming" a page? At least they haven't placed the images off to the right!

I guess I'll have to enter eBay via eBay Germany. Sees that is unaffected at this point.

Roger
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 13:44:55 PDT   Listings
kchrist… I used Corel PhotoPaint v 10, which allows you to selectively change the color of an area of any image.

I think what happened is that the color of the of the paper on the top stamp changed, which affected the color of the ink. Perhaps it was mounted for a long time on an acidic page, or else was exposed to more air than the bottom stamp, or the bottom stamp was soaked free of its backing paper in chlorinated water, which made the paper come out whiter. The reds are definitely different between the two stamps, but I think it is a function of the condition of the paper that created the difference, not the original color of the ink itself. But I’m certainly not an authority. Your new scan shows that perhaps there is a true color difference, so it might be worthwhile to send the stamp to an expertizer.

With all the improvement in spectroscopic analysis, I am surprised that the technology isn’t widely used by expertizers to determine color variations of stamps. A simple reflective reading from the surface could be used to pin down even minute differences in color, even to the point of perhaps demonstrating that certain color varieties really don’t exist. However I think expertizers still judge color the old fashioned way—with a dartboard or dice.

☺

Roger... I’m glad to see that someone else is experiencing weirdness on the search pages, which confirms that the “Fix That Which is Not Broken†trolls are hard at work again. Years ago I used to be able to do searches for “5.10*â€, which would find Oct 5 covers with cancels that had European style dating, i.e. day-month-year. Then eBay thought they would “fix†that feature so that everything remotely related to “5.10†would show up, such as “5 10â€. This returned so many useless results I had to abandon what had been a very lucrative way of searching. EBay shot themselves in the foot, as usual, but there was no way of changing their minds once they were all nailed down.

Jim
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1157 ) on Aug-22-07 at 13:01:49 PDT   Listings
Dad owned just four cars in his life: a Model T Ford (year unknown), a used 1933 Pontiac that he drove until 1951, when he bought a used 1948 Hudson. When its floorboard disintegrated under my mother's feet in '58, he traded it in for a used 1961 Plymouth. He was driving it when he had the accident in 1989 or '90.

Dad never made it past the third grade; when his father was killed he was indentured to a farmer, where he worked the fields until age 21. During WWI he stole horses from Danish farmers and sold them to the Germans across the border. That's how he earned his passage to the US. He was a blue collar worker all his life, yet managed to own his home and leave a sizeable estate.

What a guy!

Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-22-07 at 12:57:54 PDT   Listings
Aloha -
My nephew started driving in New Mexico when he was 14. License restricted him to driving directly between home and school (he was homeschooled ( ha ha!), or home and town for family needs. So he's 26 now and been driving 12 years, but he's in Thailand, so who cares. I just have the feeling it's going to be one of those days. LOL

Roger
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1157 ) on Aug-22-07 at 12:47:01 PDT   Listings
By the way, the gentleman from Japan sent me his address in English, with apologies.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-22-07 at 12:44:48 PDT   Listings
Dang Matt,

same age as me.
Though I dont think faculty are eligible for the football team.
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1157 ) on Aug-22-07 at 12:42:41 PDT   Listings
My dad drove until he was 92; he got into a fender-bender (his fault), and decided to quit. I talked him into at least taking the drivers test to renew it, just in case he changed his mind. He passed! But he never did drive again; passed away six weeks short of his 100th birthday. He started driving at the age of 8, in Denmark, after his father was killed in a tractor accident.
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1157 ) on Aug-22-07 at 12:37:52 PDT   Listings
Jaywild

Thanks for your scans. After I saw them, I dug out all of my 398's and scanned them so that all the highlights would be close to the same.

Here is what I got! The bottom left still looks carmine lake to me. Can you tell me how you did your scan? I used Adobe Photoshop Elements for mine.

Posted by dcderoo   ( 1685 ) on Aug-22-07 at 12:29:04 PDT   Listings
My father drove for about 75 years.
He just gave it up a year or two ago.
Posted by rclwa   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 11:59:27 PDT   Listings
Drivers license -- Very interesting! Would have been even more so if it had shown her 1869 or '70 birth date! My uncle had been driving for 2 years, as a 12-year-old farm boy, when that licence was issued. He still drives today! Anybody else know anyone who has been driving for 80 years?

W vowel -- A favorite puzzle word I have used is CRWTH, a Welsh musical instrument, also called a CROWD, which word in turn has many varied other meanings, for delicious obfuscation. Very few words contain none of AEIOUY. Two that come to mind are NTH (or XTH, etc) and the common Chinese surname NG.

Bob in WA
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 292 ) on Aug-22-07 at 11:57:10 PDT   Listings
I'd say marketing people sold it to upper management and then changes were ordered to the engineers.

That's the pattern 99% of the time....
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1685 ) on Aug-22-07 at 11:54:18 PDT   Listings
So far the only Search pages that I've noticed that come up in the new format are the ones that are the results of an Advanced Search of Completed Items.
Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-22-07 at 11:37:25 PDT   Listings
Dear Doctor -
Be assured confidentiality will be maintained if you wish to increase the size of your knowledge base concerning the recently acquired illness. Best to request information via eBay system. All replys will be delivered in an unmarked brown paper package. Anonymity guaranteed. Glad to help.

Jaywild -
Same thing is happening to my search pages. Some pages return in new format, others are staying in old format. I've discovered why old farts get cranky. NEW is NOT always BETTER! It will take a while today to discover everything the engineeers have sold the marketing people.

Roger
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1990 ) on Aug-22-07 at 11:12:27 PDT   Listings
Jim: Sul Ross in the news: here

Posted by sayasan   ( 715 ) on Aug-22-07 at 11:04:41 PDT   Listings
jaywild - Thanks for pointing out that US diplomatic cover from Burma, I hadn't noticed it. Having said that, these turn up fairly regularly, though not exactly every week. As I understand it, this pouch system, where US embassy personnel could put the stamps of the country where they were posted on their mail home and then have it mailed from DC, was pretty well universal, so you find covers like this from all over the world. I have a number of diplomatic covers from other consuls and embassies in Burma, and none of them used a similar system. The oldest one I have is only 1949, a year after Burmese independence, but the cover has a Burma George VI stamp, still valid, which is a nice touch. I think the system faded out in the early 'sixties? Others may know.

STEM - top left - means Scientific and Technical Mission, I think. Also the covers are usually initialled lower left by the authorising person - it's possible to date and collect the different initials, if you care to. There is a Washington DC slogan postmark that incorporates the wording of the purple cachet - "mailed in the country of etc" - but that seems scarce, and I don't have an example.

Anyway, thanks again - I would have missed this one.

Richard W.

Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on Aug-22-07 at 10:42:06 PDT   Listings
Arguably, one of the most famous CATALOGUE QUEENS.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page118.asp

To quote David Lopan, "there have been others, for sure".
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 10:35:07 PDT   Listings
kchrist… I think the stamps are the same color. Here is a image where I have adjusted the color of the paper of the two stamps to be similar (your image is on the left, my adjusted images are on the right.) To me the stamps both look like the same color.

Just my 2¢ carmine lake…

Jim
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1157 ) on Aug-22-07 at 10:15:03 PDT   Listings
NOIP

On Monday I had my second cataract surgery and now I see colors a lot differently.

This morning, as I was browsing through my used collection for something to sell, my sharpened eyesight caught this USED 2 cent carmine lake Pan-Pacific stamp.

Either my new eyes deceive me or I have stumbled on to the only known one of this color that's used.

What thinkest y'all?

Ken C.

P.S. Its the one on the bottom!

Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 09:56:36 PDT   Listings
sayasan… Interesting Burma item that you might have missed. I can’t get the “larger picture†function to work, perhaps you will have better luck.

☺

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 09:40:56 PDT   Listings
claghorn… Well, nothing has changed on my end, and everything worked fine two days ago. First I noticed a distinct change in the way eBay does things—now, after I click to “watch†an item, instead of having to back-click twice I only have to back-click once to get back to the search list, so they definitely have been doing something.

Early yesterday the goofy appearance of the search list was intermittent, then later in the day it became permanent. But it’s only on the long search strings—the ones where I have only a couple variables the screen is not fouled up, although the size of the font and the general arrangement of the screen is very different from what it was a couple days ago. Can’t see how it’s on my end. I’m stickin’ to my story…

Jim
Posted by xzephyr   ( 982 ) on Aug-22-07 at 09:39:37 PDT   Listings
...might help...C
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-22-07 at 09:39:26 PDT   Listings
220man… The “w†used as a vowel is a Welsh contribution to the language, and I believe it is pronounced “oo†as in “tootâ€. Cwm, which means “valley†I think, is pronounced “koomâ€, so perhaps the pronunciation of cwmbran is koombran.

When I was a kid we were taught that the vowels were A, E, I, O, U and sometimes Y, W and H. Welsh words use the “w†as a vowel, and the “h†isn’t really used as a vowel but is treated as such in front of words such as “historicâ€, which requires the indefinite article “an†in front of it rather than “aâ€.

Jim
Posted by xzephyr   ( 982 ) on Aug-22-07 at 09:38:43 PDT   Listings
Phil

In my study of flowers and geological paleontological specimens I have been mainly self taught and the pronunciation, when at last I hear it, often seems illogical. The only help I can give you is to pronounce it “Cwmbranâ€! Perhaps some Welsh philatelist.

Colin the ignorant

Posted by 220man   ( 156 ) on Aug-22-07 at 08:04:19 PDT   Listings
Colin: How do you pronounce "Cwmbran?"
Phil
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 412 ) on Aug-22-07 at 06:49:37 PDT   Listings
JayWild

**SIGH** Your formatting issue is probably your browser and settings.

Remember that eBay only qualifies the latest version of Microsoft Internet Exploder with the latest service pack. Only the default settings and font sizes are supported.

If you stray off the path into the swamp, then you get gooey. pun intended.
Posted by lloydstamps   ( 578 ) on Aug-22-07 at 05:42:42 PDT   Listings
Thanks, Paolo and David.
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-22-07 at 05:25:14 PDT   Listings
LLoyd,
I would suspect it's a problem of internet temporary files on your end: by clicking on your Listings I can see all 13 items of yours.

Paolo
Posted by dbenson   ( 8496 ) on Aug-22-07 at 05:25:01 PDT   Listings
Lloyd,

I can see 13 lots listed,

David B.
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-22-07 at 05:13:14 PDT   Listings
Good day all!

Rainer,
That doesn't sound strange to me.
I sold directly to an Italian large auction house a few items. Was paid on the nail and the items were listed in their next public auction.

Colin,
To such an individual, with 32 (?) internet frauds on his young shoulders and probably thousands yet to be perpetrated, I would have given an exemplary punishment, to work as a potent warning to any other eventual emulator, something like seven years of jail time rather than just two.

Paolo

Paolo
Posted by lloydstamps   ( 578 ) on Aug-22-07 at 05:12:27 PDT   Listings
Is asking about eBay's foibles here "business?"

Last night I listed 13 lots. I got 13 confirmation e-mail messages from eBay, but only 12 lots show up in my listing. There are 13 in "My eBay" as actively selling, but a search for that missing lot on eBay (either within my listings or in FDCs in general) does not find it.

What should I do? Am I due a refund?
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1383 ) on Aug-22-07 at 05:03:50 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
Posted by dr.searchphd   ( 0 ) on Aug-21-07 at 22:19:35 PDT   Listings
MR. RA;
Have been here since day one, had my 'stars' and now just for the pure pleasure of research i work very hard to maintain my standard of ZERO as a starting point.

It is interesting how someone with lots of feedback will be frowned upon as a 'power seller' with no 'soul' by several here, yet my zero allows me the freedom to indulge without the 'stigma' of being a heartless stamp dealer.

Not homosexual, not in any closet (finally have a office)

All research has value as shown by some great students here including the terrific RAZOR CANCEL study done which has developed into a small interest within my own collection.

A well regarded name as D Benson has value, as my name wouldnt have any value only the info gathered and studys done would have to stand by themselves.

To be voted by your peers into a position as yours is a great honor to be proud of (even tho...:) and sir im impressed by your success in light of this crowds temperment which changes like the weather.

I hope that a low number will bring smiles not frowns as a way to judge a fellow collector and student, as im just getting started and have a lot of projects to 'chase' after a long time of chasing 'stars'.


Posted by keleofa   ( 3504 ) on Aug-21-07 at 21:13:42 PDT   Listings
California Driver's License Cover/Card 1929...

Show-and-Tell... nothing of any real value but something I think is interesting;

1929 California Driver's License, good until revoked.

Side 1

Side 2

Matt in Arizona
Posted by 22028   ( 1643 ) on Aug-21-07 at 20:55:30 PDT   Listings
What I always fail to understand to a certain extend..., the Iran tete-beche pair shown here... http://www.cherrystoneauctions.com/auctionscans/1507.jpg had been sold at a French auction only in June 2007 and now appears already at Cherrystone auction. In my opion that shport time span indicates thast the pair has been bought be Cherrystone itself...
The starting price is just a little above the selling price from the French Auction...

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-21-07 at 20:49:50 PDT   Listings
Thomas I enjoyed your post and you should well know where I stand on those issues. I sincerely hope you can at least find a reasonable full service maid to attend to some of your household needs.
Live Long and Prosper and don't stay away. You are not one to stand by and watch the bullies take over.

dr.searchphd Greetings! I have long pondered what your moniker means. Does it mean you have two doctorates?
If so I am quite impressed and hope you will share what they are. You should know that there are many here that consider this board a community. Hence, postings from (0 feedback) people with obvious ID's meant to hide their identity are often times frowned upon. Why don't you come out of the closet and tell us who you really are. I have the feeling you have much to offer the board.
Posted by jimbo   ( 405 ) on Aug-21-07 at 20:36:04 PDT   Listings
peetah,
I didn't include .txt in my list. Same answer applies.

jimbo
Posted by jimbo   ( 405 ) on Aug-21-07 at 20:34:52 PDT   Listings
peetah,
It should work just the same for you as a .jpg file. Upload it in whatever form it is in (.xls, .doc, .wk1, .pdf, etc.) and then link to the right file name and suffix.

jimbo
Posted by peetah   ( 498 ) on Aug-21-07 at 20:25:42 PDT   Listings
Anyone? know how to upload a text file? I know how to upload jpg files. I know how to write a link to a file. I would like to know how to upload a text file. Once I do, I know how to link to it.
I posted the same question on the HTML board, but I know many times help can be found here too.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 641 ) on Aug-21-07 at 20:24:38 PDT   Listings
E U S C
Ebay Users Stamp Club Meeting

For August 2007, will commence at 12:00 Midnight (ebay time) August 24th and end midnight August 26th<.

The meetings topic will focus on the age old battle of collecting mint or used.

It would be nice to hear from everyone on their preferences and the reasons why they prefer one to the other (or why they don't necessarily have a preference).
This topic will also include those stamps that are worth more used than mint and why. I find the reasons of
why used stamps are sometimes worth many times that of their mint counterparts, quite interesting.

Also anyone with info on how to help identify fake cancels on these more valueable "used" stamps, would be most welcome!



Happy Stampin,
Mitchell aka Antonius Ra
President EUSC
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-21-07 at 20:11:46 PDT   Listings
**SIGH** eBay has been monkeying with page design again—my searches now come up all garbled. I see Paolo mentioned noticing some differences in layout as well.

Here is an illustration—the red arrows show fields that overlap, green arrows show meaningless boxes that have popped up out of nowhere, blue arrow shows gigantic out of proportion font, orange arrow shows teeny hard to read font.

My guess is that they are trying to reconfigure the pages to cram more ads onto them, and of course plunged right off the same old cliff.

Jim
Posted by dr.searchphd   ( 0 ) on Aug-21-07 at 20:10:57 PDT   Listings
POSTALVIEW;

LOL, HICcup!, LOL, HICcup!, LOL
Sir you are a pistol (proper context:)
Posted by xzephyr   ( 982 ) on Aug-21-07 at 20:02:49 PDT   Listings
20 year old gets 2 years custody for eBay fraud

Colin the insomniac

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1383 ) on Aug-21-07 at 19:51:13 PDT   Listings
member
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 19:32:52 PDT   Listings
CHASWILLY ---You should not read my postings if you get upset so easy.

All those junk lots that I purchased in the 70's and early 80's have been sold in hundreds and hundreds of cigar box lots with many repeat buyers .Then when e-bay came along my wife told me to clean out the closets and I sold a few dozen bulk lots and they are all gone .I had fun with them and got my money back so im happy with the whole experience.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3755 ) on Aug-21-07 at 19:01:07 PDT   Listings

adderbolt - I didn't see an answer to your query.

They are common. Try a search in US postal history using either parcel post or Q1, I bet a dozen cards come up either in auction or stores.

When issued, the stamps were restricted to parcel post use, but in July 1913 (trying to recall from memory) they were made legal for all classes of mail and became a novelty to use on PPCs.

postal-raff

Posted by postalviews   ( 4198 ) on Aug-21-07 at 18:59:16 PDT   Listings
Dr. Searchio Thank you for confirming multiple hunches on my part, and you stepped right in it. Apologies if my very useful plays on words do not always sound so refined, as I do not pre-emptively google each semblance of a word used. Perhaps I should, but there is not the time. Will not chalk it up to working in paper and postcards with some quite risque, along with the stamps, postal history etc, but rather, to having had a very broad life engaged at all levels of the human experience: high, low, and in-between. In preparation for reaching the top I have always felt it necessary to build a broad base of worldly experience. If such shall stain my public image before the legions of weekend retiree stamp dealers, then so be it. As you no doubt know, one cannot please everyone ranging from those still mentally inhabiting an Edwardian world to those currently making utter fools of themselves on Myspace, and all stages in between. Thus, for ever having lacked a suitable mentor, I must be myself, for better or worse. However, it seems to be working for me, as at 50 I am still alive, free, perfectly healthy, in shape from natural work as opposed to the boring gym workouts for human hamsters fitted out in their designer 'tards, and in possession of considerable illiquid assets teetering on my shoulders. In other words, "A loaf of bread, a jug of wine--now all I need is some decently wealthy and well-educated poon'." Ah, but perhaps like you, in their image consciousness, the true ladies all but perhaps a very rare few and hard to find or more likely already taken since underage by slick greedy unscrupulous horndogs would not dare handle someone who would use that vulgar term, so here I shall remain sitting: alone and free from alimony, child support, and endless psychosocial torment on many levels ranging from the interior personal to the exterior judicial.

Myself I enjoy a Gin Gibson on occasion before a rare dinner out but by and large avoid alcohol with preference for other things not so socially acceptable in this puppet society but definitely more subtle in effect both immediate and long term, not to mention far less carcinogenic than alcohol, and far less toxic in general. Of course the Edwardian-worlders and others ranging up in historic time to the postwar crowd and somewhat beyond would not approve: but ya can't please everyone. And in fact, Reefer Madness did actually cause a lot of permanent cognitive brain damage amongst credent viewers, the untoward effects of which still linger mendaciously on a more or less global basis to this day in the form of arms races, plutonic corporate greed behaviour, western prison gulags, addiction to truly evil powdered substances amongst the psychically weak, and so forth. Neither ignorance nor the tens of thousands of drunken driving deaths on record are bliss. (Nevertheless in spite of my general personal view on this topic, I am 100% sure that you and your friends drink responsibly, and I would support such responsibly induced imbibatory experiences wholeheartedly.)

This is my last post for now and thus you may have as many 'last words' as you wish in here and I honor you for that, but I must get busy selling here in dusty, cheap, eBay, as I tried to put out word to sell off my bite-sized $5k gross cost stock but no one was listening. Bully for them, as they with fewer philatelic survival skills likely would have had great difficulty selling this small batch of non-Scott stamp material, anthropo-cultural paper goods, and mundane postal history in quality condition fit for the exhibiting crowd. After all, which of them could make $800-$1200 a month net real income on $50 per week of pocket change as capital source? And I probably should not mention that some of them likely have very scared money right now on account of the current Wall Street fiat money gambling nightmare, but I did anyway. For if buy price of UN NY postage drops from 40% of face to 20% of face in the face of my paltry $303 face of UN NY, it means that there is either no money in NYC, or more likely, that there is very very scared money in NYC, allovatheplace. Scary!

On the other hand, really old stamps are very nice to work with, but ya gotta have mon', hon'.

Say hi to Jack for me and tell him I've been paying too much for stuff lately, just like him.

NOIP Now that I am off to the eBay dirt races, I suppose claghorn and his philatelic cheerleading entourage may now return to annoint him anew on Stamp Chat. Hence I dictate most truly sincerest best wishes to claghorn--he knows all, sees all!

And sweet dreams of good continuations to all.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 18:58:03 PDT   Listings
BILL D. ---Darn even a "SAGE" has problems some time .....had to get that in

THANKS- Your right ,first the stamps are diffucult to read the "airmail" ,you can't see it on the scan ,but its there on the stamp if you look hard enought. Second the catalog doesn't note ,that there are airmails {still a mistake of the catalog} because they usual note a extended set ....thanks again

Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on Aug-21-07 at 18:48:22 PDT   Listings
stamps12345 while I don't have the 2008 catalog, the 2001 catalog does have all 16 stamps listed, if you figure out where to look (Scott doesn't make it simple). The stamps are listed as Scott Catalog numbers 537-540, B76-B79, C16-C19, and CB16-CB19. That is, 1/4 are listed as regular stamps, 1/4 as semi-postals, 1/4 as air post and the final 1/4 as air post semi-postals.

This may have changed with the newer catalog, but I suspect not.


Bill D.
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1639 ) on Aug-21-07 at 18:43:02 PDT   Listings
stamps 123456789 As usual, you don't answer direct questions. Your post to soggy was one of the most horrific I have ever witnessed on this board. One imcomplete sentence, two or more run-sentences. Use of a noun (basis) instead of the past tense of base (based). That's just the grammer. To communicate with interested people on the internet, it is important to use the proper grammer. To do otherwise, is an exercise in futility. Try to babblefish your own words in English and it's totally futile. You may be a great "trader", you may be a great "paver", but show me the same pix you showed after the first ice or snow storm in Chicago and tell me you didn't put down enough compaction or base rock to see if it doesn't come up. I bet the first time a semi comes through and digs about 8 inches up on your stuff, you may want to contact your attorney, or your former "associates". As for philately, if you can fill your back seat with a multitude of albums, I can only think of remainders, juvenile lots, or worse junk king, not cataloge queens.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 18:40:34 PDT   Listings
OH here is the complete set . COOK ISLAND also i don't like the lay out these stamps are on this page from a Minkus album.....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 18:37:21 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. ---Thanks ,the catalog missed the 20c. ,25c, ,30c and the 35c. stamp and doesn't list the +4 cent charities . so thats the 8 missing .Time to have IOMOON contact his friends about errors in the catalog ....paul
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-21-07 at 17:56:36 PDT   Listings
PPS: if this is light red I am mother Teresa von Calcutta! ;-)
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-21-07 at 17:52:09 PDT   Listings
P.S. the layout of eBay auction pages looks different!
Yet, there is something that doesn't work. I think to know what it is but it's too difficult to explain with few words LOL

Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-21-07 at 17:46:57 PDT   Listings
Tom san,
Thanks for the advice.
Seller has indeed interesting items for sale.

For something different, This must be an overprint of the the III-bis subtype 24a, in Zumrock with relevant footnote reading: "more fake it can't get".

Good night, Paolo
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-21-07 at 16:41:23 PDT   Listings
K.E.
Nice wrapper
Posted by dbenson   ( 8496 ) on Aug-21-07 at 16:28:05 PDT   Listings
Paul, they was an additonal set issued on 15th. January 1980 with both the ordinary & the Charity issues redesigned with an extra premium, ordinary +2c., Charity +4c., they would be the other 8 stamps.

David B.


Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 15:34:40 PDT   Listings
KNUDEN-----Nice find
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 457 ) on Aug-21-07 at 15:27:02 PDT   Listings
Ken a few possibiities.
1. Call PayPal on their toll free number (it should be on the PayPal home page) They may be able to give you the address.
2. Request CONTACT INFORMATION from eBay via the SITE MAP (its listed on right column under CONNECT)
3. Check the end of auction email from eBay, that should have his address under Congratulations your item sold!

Linda
Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-21-07 at 15:21:03 PDT   Listings
Knud-Erik -

Nice high values on that wrapper. Must have been an early Scott catalogue posted by a philatlist.

Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-21-07 at 14:23:03 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

Back to teaching tomorrow.

The summer went all too fast.

K-E congrats, I think.
Whatever turns you on!
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on Aug-21-07 at 14:17:04 PDT   Listings
kchrist499 for what it's worth, my daughter's best friend spent this summer visiting family in Iran. She left several envelopes with my daughter addressed to her in Iran. All was in arabic, with only Iran in roman letters. The letters my daughter wrote were too large to fit within a regular envelope, so we cut the address off the envelope and taped it to a larger envelope, and mailed the package. There was no problem.

Bill D.
Posted by dr.searchphd   ( 0 ) on Aug-21-07 at 13:55:45 PDT   Listings
POSTALVIEWS;

Well, i have to admit that i havent heard that word for awhile, i do hope you understand that it will never be on a stamp from any country anytime soon. In case your not aware of the meaning, to some folks here that would be considered very bad taste and vulgar, for me i dont think you were meaning anything close to what it could mean to others, i hope you were using it out of context. For others info, a Pizzle is (google it) some part of a body.
And yes, Jack is terrific company, Bombay, tall glass, pearl onions (lots) and pot stickers all around with lots of time to compare, console, conspire, and figure out how to 'corner' a market.


Posted by knuden   ( 2306 ) on Aug-21-07 at 13:45:26 PDT   Listings
For some time ago I showed a registered Postal wrapper, I had won and told a bit about how scarce they are.
Today I won this lot. It will be one of my best "finds" for a long time. :O) It's a censored registered wrapper - 15th weightclass!! - 700-750 gr. (1.54-1.65 Pound) sent to Germany and here redirected in 1917.
It's the highest weightclass wrapper, I have found so far, so I feel like this at the moment!. :O)

K.E  I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 13:34:37 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. -----The Cook Islands issued a set of stamps on Dec 14 1979 is there 4 stamps with 4 semi-postals for a total of 8 stamps or is the catalog im using wrong and there are 8 regular and 8 semi-postals for a total of 16 .

Maybe someone needs to tell the publisher the 2008 catalog is wrong ?????.....paul

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 13:24:27 PDT   Listings
try this Broken Foot which is a minor variety ....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 13:22:18 PDT   Listings
STANLAY 1----Welcome to the chat board ,to answer your question there are no stamp stores that deal in Polish philately around Chicago they deal mostly in U.S. .There was a bourse on Aug 19 and not another one until next month .....paul
Posted by philatarium   ( 236 ) on Aug-21-07 at 13:13:23 PDT   Listings
Ken C: Oh, well, go figure ...

I suppose this is all the reason you need to ask your buyer for his name and address in Roman letters ("romaji", they call it). And surely it can't be against the US requirements that you could include both transcriptions (Romanized and Japanese) on the package. Hopefully that would satisfy all parties concerned.

Just out of curiosity, the next time I go to the window at my PO (in the metropolitan Los Angeles area), I'll ask them what they're allowed to accept. There are a number of Chinese, Japanese and Korean people in the area (indeed, I think that also describes the ethnicity of the postal clerks at that PO as well!), and I'd be surprised that all the addresses have to be romanized (other than the country name). I'll report back.

Oh well, lesson learned ...
Posted by adderbolt   ( 2499 ) on Aug-21-07 at 13:05:07 PDT   Listings
I'm in the process of listing a Halloween Postcard ... Postmarked from Cleveland Sta (Ohio) on October 30, 1913 ... Instead of the usual U.S. 1 cent stamp this card has a cancelled U.S. 1 cent Parcel Post Stamp ... Is that fact unusual enough to be worth noting in the title and/or description ...
Thanks ...
Jacj
Posted by dbenson   ( 8496 ) on Aug-21-07 at 13:03:37 PDT   Listings
KChrist, did you mention it had the country of destination in English.

I send items regularly to Korea, Japan & China with all the addresses in their languages but with the country in English and have had no problem but I do not know US regulations,

David B.
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1157 ) on Aug-21-07 at 12:52:12 PDT   Listings
Dave, et al

I just got off the phone with USPS. They said that they would NOT accept a package with an address written in Japanese characters.

Ken C.

Posted by kchrist499   ( 1157 ) on Aug-21-07 at 12:34:18 PDT   Listings
Dave: Thanks for the advice. I had the same thoughts, but will check with USPS as you suggested.
Posted by philatarium   ( 236 ) on Aug-21-07 at 12:17:46 PDT   Listings
kchrist: I would think that the USPS would accept such an address. In fact, my former Japanese girlfriend always addressed her mail that way. And one could reasonably argue that all the USPS needs to know is "Japan", and once the package gets on Japanese shores, the Japanese PO will certainly know how to dispatch it.

That said, my experience predates all the security measures added since 9/11, and who knows now if a package like that would look suspicious in some way. (In my mind, it shouldn't, but who knows?)

One possible way to get a better answer is to call 1-800-ASK-USPS and check with them. Perhaps you could get a definitive answer that way.

Good luck, and please report back and let us know what happened. (I'd be curious, anyway.)

-- Dave
Posted by stanlay_1   ( 324 ) on Aug-21-07 at 12:01:37 PDT   Listings
Hi i am from germany, and i will go to chicago next week, so i am looking for stamp dealers in chicago. can you help me? i am interesting in polish philately. thank you, and i am sorry for my bad english
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 11:56:02 PDT   Listings
wrong scan ,let me go do a estimate and will be back to correct it .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 11:53:38 PDT   Listings
Thanks David

Prochute---- I said F-O-O-T not leg,,, FOOT .

I understand what you said "a minor variety " Thats fine with me .

For all those trying to fiqure out what we are talking about ,here is a larger scan ,notice the center part of the foot which is on the ground . FOOT OF THE ROO ....gee what i have to put up with here ....paul

Posted by dbenson   ( 8496 ) on Aug-21-07 at 11:46:11 PDT   Listings
Paul,

re. Cook Islands correction of spelling.

Both are listed in Gibbons,

Walter Lily s.g. 232 70p.
Water Lily s.g. 233 2 Pounds,

David B.
Posted by jimbo   ( 405 ) on Aug-21-07 at 11:46:11 PDT   Listings
Pro,
I think it may have something to do with the right hand column titled Bidding Details on a page such as this one: Minolta 16mm f2.8 Fish Eye MFMC Rokkor-X 24mm MF Lens in Xlnt Condition. Do a mouseover on the View links at the right. You can now get some information on the bidder's history. It also might help sort out the shills.

jimbo
Posted by dbenson   ( 8496 ) on Aug-21-07 at 11:41:45 PDT   Listings
prochute,

there is no relationship between the broken leg variety on the 6d. Roo and any other varieties on the high values. The 6d. was plinted from a single plate whilst the 5s., 10s. One Pound & Two Pound Roos were printed from two plates, one for the frame and the other for the vignette. There are plenty of recognised varieties for the high values and Paul's Specimen isn't any of them. Every position has variations and it would be impossible to name every one of them.

David B.
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1157 ) on Aug-21-07 at 11:40:25 PDT   Listings
Hello all!

I sold a four album collection of US stamps to a person in Japan. He paid with PayPal, but gave his name and address in Japanese characters! The only thing I can read is the word "Japan" and a number.

Will the USPS accept a box if I scan the address and paste it to the box?

(This might be one of the strangest of all the strange questions posted here!)

Ken C.

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-21-07 at 11:17:34 PDT   Listings
Found this annoucement interesting
I am guessing that bids on items over 200 have really been hard to get, or were falling off.

"so we've restored some transparency when bidding on items over $200. "
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on Aug-21-07 at 09:43:48 PDT   Listings
Paver Paul Like I said, you do not have the leg flaw. Guess you can't see when someone is bustin' them, can you. Guess you now need to speak for someone else.

Gee. What area of philately are you an expert in? Any? How large is your philatelic library? So who were/are the posters who call themselves experts due to the very relevant information found in catalogues? I cannot recall anyone writing that.

As a youth, I learned so much about philately from catalogues which then led me to other areas of expertise for which I am eternally grateful.
Posted by jaywild   ( 971 ) on Aug-21-07 at 08:52:55 PDT   Listings
NOIP… This seller sure went to a lot of work describing his lot. Makes my typing fingers ache just to think about it. Too bad the photo doesn’t show the same attention to detail—couldn’t he have made the bed at least??

☺

Jim
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 06:50:07 PDT   Listings
PROCHUTE -----Your mixing up a leg flaw {that shows a picture in all the major catalogs } with a highly speciality item {my picture of a broken foot variety}that Mr. Benson is well aware of and knows of the many minor variations in the ROO's.....the key ----is foot and leg are two different varieties ...just trying to help
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-21-07 at 06:42:30 PDT   Listings
FUN with WORLDWIDE Here is a interesting find ,both the walter lily and the water lily stamp .Talk about spelling------ SPELLING ERROR ......paul
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on Aug-21-07 at 06:39:19 PDT   Listings
dbenson Last week you mentioned, in direct reponse to my post regarding a leg flaw that was NOT present on that £2 specimen (and could not be), many acceptable types of 'Roo varieties, ALL of which I am quite aware of. Thank you.

I just wonder what your response had to do with the true "broken leg" variety which only occurs on the 6d. and which you did not mention at all thereby solicting the expert response from the former floor trader now paver.

Posted by keleofa   ( 3504 ) on Aug-21-07 at 06:18:26 PDT   Listings
Paperhistory,

Hi Matt in Ohio,

re: Boston Paquebot

Thanks!

It's a neat item -- a Swiss RPPC franked with a GB stamp postmarked in Boston!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1990 ) on Aug-21-07 at 05:23:03 PDT   Listings
Matt: looks like an International to me. I haven't seen a Boston paquebot machine before -- nifty.

Lou: PNSE is a big show, one of the "world series" shows. There will be lots of exhibits (which your 10-year may or may not enjoy), including mine. The exhibit focus this year will be heavy on state postal history and Portugal.

With the large size of the bourse there are probably some dealers that will have something of interest for kids. There may also be a youth area.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 457 ) on Aug-21-07 at 04:33:15 PDT   Listings
Welcome back Rainer, hope your summer holiday in Germany was pleasant.

Postalviews that item was part of a set issued for one of the London Stamp shows if memory serves me right. I used to have an album full of Stamp Show Cinderellas, seems I have sold them all off over the years.

Lou go along to the show, see what they are all about, I'm sure you and your 10yr old will have fun.

Linda
Posted by vinnysf   ( 561 ) on Aug-21-07 at 04:24:17 PDT   Listings
hey everyone!
Posted by postalviews   ( 4198 ) on Aug-21-07 at 04:08:43 PDT   Listings
Greetings Rainer. Have always enjoyed your highly informative posts. Welcome back!
Posted by 22028   ( 1643 ) on Aug-21-07 at 03:38:29 PDT   Listings
Greetings from hot and humid Abu Dhabi. After a whooping 2 month vacation back home in Germany I am back since 2 days...
Posted by postalviews   ( 4198 ) on Aug-21-07 at 03:18:56 PDT   Listings
Excuse me, "fortuitively" should have been "fortuitously".

Apologies to Dr. Searchio Sizzlepizzle for that one.
Posted by postalviews   ( 4198 ) on Aug-21-07 at 03:16:52 PDT   Listings
Here we see the door prize I won at SANDIPEX on Sunday. It came fortuitively gummed, so that one can affix it to the forehead of the donor if such is ever identified. Otherwise it might have had to be sewed on.

Actually I had a choice between several equally worthless objects, but I chose this one so as to be able to destroy it.

I felt embarrassed for the show.

Will post the 'after' pictures when rendering is complete.
Posted by postalviews   ( 4198 ) on Aug-21-07 at 03:05:40 PDT   Listings
Paolo The stamp does appear to have been rubbed by something that caused a tiny flap of it to tear upwards.

Given the caliber of material offered by the seller, it should be quite willing to answer a question from you.

If not, then skip that one.
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-21-07 at 02:55:25 PDT   Listings
Hi Lou4cards,
at 01:21:49 PDT you wrote:
"[...] I have never been to a stamp show. [...]"

I can assure you that your first visit will not be the last!

Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-21-07 at 02:42:14 PDT   Listings
This is that postal object of which at mine of 15:22:48 PDT.
The perforations appear to be torn (under magnification) along the upper margin (bottom margin of adhesive, inverted on picture), under the T of HELVETIA.

Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-21-07 at 02:15:11 PDT   Listings
Good day all!

Roger san,
Nooooo: modeln, eventually! ;-)

Tom san,
Interesting website, I never there!
At the moment we something to do with Epson of Seiko group.

Paolo ;-)
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Aug-21-07 at 02:06:00 PDT   Listings
lou4cards PNSE 2007 will have over 55 dealers representing all areas of philately, society meetings, seminars, & postal agencies according to the web site . So I'm pretty sure you and the youngster will find something of interest.

If buying be sure to have a look at all the dealers offers first. Some will have the same material but at different prices.
The exhibit list looks pretty interesting also so sure go to the show and enjoy yourself.
Posted by lou4cards   ( 439 ) on Aug-21-07 at 01:21:49 PDT   Listings
Is the Philadelphia National Stamp Exhibition in King of Prussia a good show? I have never been to a stamp show. Not sure of what to expect. It is only about 4 miles from my home. I can find the list of dealers that will be there. Other than the exibits are there other events for the public? Would this be to much for a 10 year old. She likes to go with me to asmall shows and pick through boxes for what she likes.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 457 ) on Aug-21-07 at 00:17:56 PDT   Listings
alec enjoy your trip,
don't worry about the money, as I tell my hubby it's made round to go 'round!!
(no, its not made flat to stack!!!)

Gute Reise! ~ Linda
Posted by infla-alec   ( 561 ) on Aug-20-07 at 23:53:53 PDT   Listings
Terry I'm just pleased you enjoyed the trip and managed to find some material.

Talking of trips I'm off to Austria tomorrow. Staying with friends in Linz but it just so happens that there is an Austrian National level Rang 1 exhibition on also in Gmunde, ( 1 hour away) so looking forward to that.

Next journey after that will be my yearly pilgrimage to Sindelfingen, Germany at the end of October. It is in my opinion one of the best yearly events. Thousands of visitors and a place where friends from all over Europe arrange to meet up. So yes I'm looking forward to that also very much. I may be a poor man after the event of course but a happy one none the less.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3504 ) on Aug-20-07 at 21:48:28 PDT   Listings
US Postal History Question...

Paquebot - Boston 1938

Is this an International Machine?

T I A,

Matt in Arizona
Posted by postalviews   ( 4198 ) on Aug-20-07 at 20:24:25 PDT   Listings
Paolo Have you surfed to Engrish.com,

Posted by postalviews   ( 4198 ) on Aug-20-07 at 19:32:03 PDT   Listings
Jeff Myself, I toot my own horn all the time. You may recognize it as the sound of one stamp flapping.

soggy333 You have hit on a couple of things.

One is that eBay now grades dealers by category. Reminds me of grade school.

Another is that I have my own 'grading system' for dealers, which I refer to as a "BS Coefficient" (BSC). EX: If dealer A has a BSC of 0.4, for example, that means the true value of what he offers is 40% of his asking price. The one limitation of this system is that one must "go through the pain" with that particular dealer a few times in order to determine the corresponding BSC to begin with. However, if items of known value are spotted in the dealer's inventory beforehand, some estimates of the probable BSC can then be made and resultant pain, if any, potentially avoided.

And here it is in applied practice: apparently Victor Bove, the postage broker I had misfortune with last week, has BSC = 0.5. That's pretty bad. Oh, but he really taught me a lesson, didn't he. Sure.

Some don't fit the mold. For example, one dealer's schema turned out to be thus:

"rare" = worth $10
"very rare" = worth $20
Am afraid to find out what "rare as hens' teeth" means.

prochute I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I think djs is one of the nicer, more transparent people on Stamp Chat. Am very glad to see he has moved on to holding tables at stamp bourses, thus enriching the hobby. Did tease him about his collecting areas of a few years ago but he has been a great sport and has learned a tremendous amount of philately since then. I like how he openly relates his philatelic experiences on the chat board. They are similar to the stories told by others more advanced in collecting, but his total lack of guile and pretense is very refreshing to me.

drsearch Yes, your interesting note is acknowledged, and my name is not Tom either, but Thomas.

Have always had the feeling that Jack knows where the best parties are. Something about the fine gravel in his voice tells me he would be a lot of fun to have as a close friend. His stock and apparent customer base tells me he would be an interesting mentor to study philately under. He is one of the very few I miss seeing from the shows. If he offered me a job, I'd start packing tonight, with visions of rarities to attribute dancing in my head.

Apologies, but the Mal Brown and C Chase references are apparently either from before my time, or from beyond my generalized knowledge of philately.

BTW, I must have have missed the post where you told us all what your name is, can you supply it again for us,
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 457 ) on Aug-20-07 at 18:33:45 PDT   Listings
prochute the whole idea of a me page is to tell other eBayers about yourself, (particularly a good idea if you are a seller). Therefore, it is fair to presume that I will be used a few times (5 I think on my page!).

Of course, some eBayers are happy hiding behind their ID, that's fine too.

Linda
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Aug-20-07 at 17:15:23 PDT   Listings
Tex 1845
I like them used on Covers and wrappers
and there are others here also with great interest and knowledge .
Got any pics?
Posted by tex1845   ( 114 ) on Aug-20-07 at 16:41:38 PDT   Listings
Is there anyone interested in 19th century Denmark?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Aug-20-07 at 16:23:17 PDT   Listings
SOGGY 333 to answer your question .

CATALOG QUEEN'S A few years back when I first started on this chat room .There were alot of helpful people to answer philatelic questions. They were of two types those who had a good working knowledge and knew the subject .Then there was the group who answered questions basis on what the stamp catalog said. That was understandable and fine .

Then some of the group who were reading from the standard catalogs started calling each other experts and acting like they knew the subject but never really adding information which wasn't in the catalog .

As a collector who had the material being asked about and could produce the stamp most of the time ,It just got to me when they called themselfs experts and refered to each other as experts ---------hence ---CATALOG QUEENS ------paul

Just a note for the first time this month in the philatelic press I've seen the word "bottom feeder " used in context to people looking for cheap stamps ,interesting .

Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-20-07 at 16:12:40 PDT   Listings
PAOLO -
Modern issues I presume?

);>)

Off to work
ROGER
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-20-07 at 15:57:45 PDT   Listings
Welcome back, Terence H.!

Good continuation, Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-20-07 at 15:43:44 PDT   Listings
low = row
Next, I might end up to collect China stamps! ;-)
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-20-07 at 15:22:48 PDT   Listings
Thanks Roger,
That is almost what I thought as well (with the aid of the catalogue), with the two 10rp on thin paper, one of which missing the silk thread (?).
I was attracted, apart by these previous two, by the relatively "large" margins of two of the 40rp on third low to the left.

Today I was about to BIN a postage due cover with the 25c. "children and value shield" (;-)) on grilled paper (as declared by seller), usage in 1937, from Germany (under)franked with a Hindenburg 6 pfennig, I think to remember.
The price was/is interesting but...
When I looked at the due stamp better I saw it was missing a little piece at top, unfortunately!
I think it would have looked nice (IMO) next to the one you linked (I am just a beginner!).

Paolo
Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-20-07 at 15:07:45 PDT   Listings
Paolo -
My guess is
two 10 centimes Munich printing -
two late 40 centimes
1 - Bern 20 centimes
lower row - possible maroon thread, and two late 40 centimes.

I think you were lucky to be under bidder.

Roger
Posted by thines   ( 1494 ) on Aug-20-07 at 14:34:14 PDT   Listings
Good evening all,

I got back from my two weeks in London (side trip to France) earkly this morning. I want to thank all of you who gave recommendations about London stamp venues. Especially to Alec. I did go to the Aug. 8 bourse at the Royal National Hotel and got some nice covers for my modern Polish postal history collection and some other stuff. There was a British equivalent of Coverman, the latter known to those of us here in the NY area, who had some nice modern material.

While in London I went to Spamalot with my daughter, the Imperial War Museum (alone) and the new Wellcome medical museum with a group of fellow neuroscience / cell biology types.

Good fun was had, both philatelic and otherwise.

Terry Hines

Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-20-07 at 13:46:29 PDT   Listings
This was an unilateral rant of bids... wonder what he saw in it that I, or anybody else excpet the top bidder for that matter, didn't notice?
Posted by vonbag   ( 179 ) on Aug-20-07 at 13:43:47 PDT   Listings
Many Thanks, Roger!
That's the one I was looking for but couldn't find anymore! LOL
Paolo
Posted by malolo   ( 849 ) on Aug-20-07 at 13:18:16 PDT   Listings
Paolo -
Ungultig
Uncollected in Luzern, collected in Zurich.
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on Aug-20-07 at 12:34:39 PDT   Listings
dcderoo
You are right about Scott--I do disagree with them, not to belittle the value of their great catalog, but you must disagree with them all the time just to get by in stamp collecting. There is only one grade for a stamp--not different grades depending on the era. We all know printers before 1870 had a hard time with low tech but we cannot compensate by using a different grading system.The Scott price is supposed to reflect the scarcity and demand for an item. If a pre 1870 stamp is extremely scarce in VF the price should reflect that. Since that would push many $100 stamps into the $1000 catalog value Scott (for marketing reasons) creates a bogus grading system.So an old stamp is priced instead for a Fine copy and Scott is calling it VF "for this issue"? Maybe they are just trying to make the catalog more useable. I am nothing but a simple world wide space filler, do not exhibit, and do not have high ticket stamps, but I am not a snob when I call the catalog useless for serious collectors.


Maybe we can grade dealers if they are graded -1 then you must subtract a whole letter grade from any item they are selling and VF becomes F. Graded 0 is accuracy and +1 is someone you should buy from all of the time.

By the way Paul12345, I only partly understand what you mean
by the term "catalog queen". What does that really mean?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Aug-20-07 at 11:28:05 PDT   Listings
Back in Texas.

Catching up on snail mail.

Thanks Terry for the PVI's.

I see my correction made the July edition of Scott's stamp monthly about the thickness of snow before it turns to ice.
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on Aug-20-07 at 11:03:22 PDT   Listings
>>>djs127>>>> I just read your short "me" page and it contains the word "I" ten times. IMO, that HK 1937 coronation is deceptive as the title should include part set' Just my ¼¢ worth...
Posted by dr.searchphd   ( 0 ) on Aug-20-07 at 08:56:29 PDT   Listings
POSTALVIEWS;
One last jerk of the chain, Jack Solens name isnt Jack:)

Sonnys name isnt Sonny its (H. G.) and yes he is very helpful as his friend Jack is, we all sat at the 'knee' of some of the greats.
As one of my mentors was also the great Mal Brown who had some of the best reference material for the early classics as the US#10.
I would put up his color chart as one of the best that i have in reference along with signed C. Chase pairs that i 'earned' from him.

I did earn some material from a dealer by painting his caddy and front end work, anybody else have any 'ways' that you have come into material without any cash? (topic for ?)
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Posted by sayasan   ( 715 ) on Aug-20-07 at 05:01:05 PDT   Listings
Here's a good old fashioned bidding war -


http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=200140152038

18 out of 19 bids from just two buyers, slugging it out. A pity the stamp is a forgery.

I've pointed this out to the seller ...

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1383 ) on Aug-20-07 at 04:08:19 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

member
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3755 ) on Aug-20-07 at 03:30:04 PDT   Listings

JW - yessir

Up excruciatingly early (for me) this am to drive to Abilene for the day.

travelling-raff