eBay chatboard archive: Jul-16-07 to Jul-22-07 week

Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-22-07 at 22:09:12 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Well, Betty Windsor has had over 55 years of stamp production under her belt. No wonder it gets confusing. She is now the fourth longest reigning British monarch in history. Sometime this coming year she will pass Henry III to become the third longest.

If she makes it to May 11, 2011 she will be the second longest reigning monarch, eclipsing George III (Mad King George).

If she makes it to September 9, 2015 she will be the longest reigning British monarch ever. That’s only 8 years, 1 month and 18 days away!!!

James III
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on Jul-22-07 at 19:07:10 PDT   Listings
GIBBONS 1840-1970 is a most welcome addition to their cataloque line. Within the dearth of QE2 issues are well-recognized printing errors, scarce color printings, watermark errors and the like. In my opinion, QE2 is a field just as fertile as KG6! Today, most collectors do not stop at 1940.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3733 ) on Jul-22-07 at 18:43:36 PDT   Listings

yip-yap - yak-yak

riff-raff

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jul-22-07 at 18:25:55 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. -----Got all those Lagos stamps spread out on a desk and still working on them ,once there sorted will scan them .

On a different note ,have agreed with a buyer to purchase half my business ,all the heavey equipment ,rollers,dump trucks and other tools are being sold in a monthly installment over the next three months .Will continue for one year after this season with a smaller company less employees and tools .Wife will also be losing her job sometime this year ,Bank of American has purchase parts of the Dutch bank's operations in the U.S.A. but she wants to walk away after 24 years {one years pay as severance }.....paul

Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-22-07 at 16:35:00 PDT   Listings
D2… The most laughable thing about that Hitler-monocle auction is that the reserve price has to be over $250, which is the cut-off after which all auctions revert to the BIDDER 1, BIDDER 2 format. I notice someone mentioned that the idea behind this auction is ridiculous, whereupon the seller wanted proof that the stamp was phony.

It will end very shortly, and we’ll see if anyone was dumb enough to meet the reserve set for this piece of lunacy.

Jim
Posted by 220man   ( 153 ) on Jul-22-07 at 14:50:19 PDT   Listings
Testing TinyPic
Posted by dbenson   ( 8419 ) on Jul-22-07 at 14:44:21 PDT   Listings
greenwave, the problem for them has been the tardiness in updating BC QE cats. and this may have been the only solution. No one outside of their boardroom will ever know if it was the only solution but it is a solution.

David B.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Jul-22-07 at 14:27:20 PDT   Listings
D2 Your logic may be correct, but a 55% increase in what was a bible for most Commonwealth collectors is not going to be the marketing coup of the year.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8419 ) on Jul-22-07 at 14:12:08 PDT   Listings
Knuden,

possibly he may have got more if he listed them in the correct country. The pair looks nice on cover.

David B.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8419 ) on Jul-22-07 at 14:09:40 PDT   Listings
I think I can see the logic in it. The overall plan must be to issue 2 BC cats. each year about the same size and there must be an approximate number of stamps post 1970 as there are pre 1970. It is up to each individual to make up his own mind if he wants to purchase them. The downside is that QE collectors would be forced to but both whilst QV & the Kings will only have to buy one. I can't see much wrong with the plan apart from the expense,

David B.

Posted by knuden   ( 2301 ) on Jul-22-07 at 14:09:14 PDT   Listings
Here is a seller who is up to a pleasant surprise. :O)

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


Posted by esc917   ( 209 ) on Jul-22-07 at 14:06:30 PDT   Listings
First try. If it works, does anyone know where this is from?

http://666kb.com/i/aqadablcgsxkrcdzw.jpg
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Jul-22-07 at 14:02:41 PDT   Listings
Jim Yes insane is the best word for it. Most classic Commonwealth collectors stop at George 6th or even earlier. I can see this ending up as a series of catalogues for each reign in a few years time. I can feel another petition coming on:-)mutter mutter......
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 411 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:52:13 PDT   Listings
esc917 info from Alec

Ok now to the free web host for posting images here. The site itself is below so firstly add that to your favourite web site links.
http://www.666kb.com/
1.Once you have your image scanned save it in a folder that you will know where to find it again.
2. Open the 666kb site. Then Click on BROWSE.At the top you will see a scroll down menu that tells you were to look for your images.
3.Once you have loctated the File CLICK on the file name. It will turn blue.
4. Click OPEN. Now you should see a list of all the different images you have saved in that file.
5. Click on the File Name of the image you want to have uploaded. Again it will turn blue and again CLICK on OPEN.
6. Now you should see the file name in the little box to the left of where it says BROWSE.
7. CLICK on SPEICHERN. This simply means Upload. After a few seconds the picture will appear on your screen and at the top you will see , "URL der gespeicherten Bilddatei: followed by a URL in BLUE.
8. CLICK on the URL. Now the image will appear all by itself in a new window. In the web address browser is a unique URL code. It will read something like,
http://666kb.com/i/ahr689e1tdy5ye5k. Always starting with http://666kb.com/ and then a random file number.
9.It is that URL which you simply copy and paste into your message here.
10.To copy and paste simply,
a: Hold the mouse over the URL and LEFT CLICK. It will turn BLUE.
b: RIGHT CLICK then LEFT Click The COPY button.
c: Come back here and write your message. To post the copied URL RIGHT CLICK again then LEFT CLICK the PASTE button.
That's all there is to it. It sounds complicated but I do urge anyone with limited computer skills to give it a try. If you screw up don't worry just report the post to ebay and it will be removed. Then try again and again until you get it right.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:50:27 PDT   Listings
Peter

That is insane.

1952's coronation of Liz made a good stopping point.
All 1970 marks is the begining of decimal currency in Britain.
Or am I missing something?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:47:12 PDT   Listings
NOIP Have Stanley Gibbons finally lost the plot? It seems their successful Commonwealth catalogue 1840-1952 is no more. It has now turned into 1840-1970 those extra 18 years are going to cost £25 more going from £44.95 to £69.95. As a collector up to GeorgeVI, I ain't going to bother!
Posted by esc917   ( 209 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:44:42 PDT   Listings
Great idea about the scanner - it will save my eye sight. Although being near sighted helps, but I think I'm getting cross eyed.

I'll figure out how to upload and ask here. I'll try not to pester everyone too much!
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 411 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:41:55 PDT   Listings
esc917 Here is a start:

Japan: Chrysanthemum(sp) 16 petal flower imperial crest
Manchukuo: Orchid crest 5 petal crest with background and FEN denomination
China: character wide rectangle with vertical line
Korea: characters with a few small circles
Turkey: Tughra (fancy character like an ampersand) look at first issue for example
Hejaz-Njed: get used to it

Indian States: You get used to it

Anyway, that is a start. Thanks to IO/Jim for the hints.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:38:15 PDT   Listings
"The one-eyed man in the Kingdom of the blind"
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 469 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:28:53 PDT   Listings
Esc917: If you don't own a scanner, it is a great tool for a collector. You can do hi-res scans and "blow up" a stamp to fill the comp moniter almost making a magnifier obsolete.
...Just kidding, what's a stamp collector without a magnifier?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:25:00 PDT   Listings
Thanks Dragon.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 469 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:17:30 PDT   Listings
esc917: If you can scan/upload them, and link to them you will most likely get the help you are looking for from this site.

Posted by dragonstamps   ( 469 ) on Jul-22-07 at 13:10:15 PDT   Listings
Iomoon:

I did a search for those in scott 2006 and I didn't see any...

Posted by dbenson   ( 8419 ) on Jul-22-07 at 12:44:30 PDT   Listings
How do you spell gullible,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Extremely-Rare-Adolph-Hitler-Stamp-Hitler-With-Monocle_W0QQitemZ230151989619QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3489QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

David B.
Posted by esc917   ( 209 ) on Jul-22-07 at 12:40:58 PDT   Listings
Can anyone recommend a web site to help me identify the packets of old stamps from either Asia or the Middle East that not only don't use Arabic numbers but no recognizable alphabet either. All the packets are helpfully labeled like this - ??? - My eyes are crossing going through the Scott catalogues.
Posted by esc917   ( 209 ) on Jul-22-07 at 12:19:55 PDT   Listings
Despite the inherent health risks mentioned earlier, I'll bet there'd be more younger stamp collectors - other than myself of course, being quite young at heart if not chronologically - if someone made an exciting video game about stamp collecting. The thrill of the search, the competition of ebay bidding wars, the satisfaction of finding a MNH...
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-22-07 at 12:10:33 PDT   Listings
Thanks alec

I was looking for possible images for a new article.

This person seems to have caught on to the "don't bid round numbers" but is severely lacking as to substance of bids.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Jul-22-07 at 12:09:28 PDT   Listings
which explains why I put an extra d in your name:-)..... well it is Sunday...
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Jul-22-07 at 12:08:34 PDT   Listings
Rodger The only way to avoid those illnesses is to lick hinges with a nice cavernet sauvignon whilst enjoying first hand smoke( yes I confess I am smoker which in the uK means I am persona non grata or whatever...) and then my eyes couldn't get past your first 2:-)
Peter
Posted by infla-alec   ( 551 ) on Jul-22-07 at 11:58:16 PDT   Listings
Jim To the best of my knowledge no. But I don't have an up to date Germany catalogue either
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-22-07 at 11:04:54 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

Question directed at Germany collectors since I don't have a catalog with me.
Are there any stamps depicting

University of Frankfurt an der Oder
University of Gottingen
Fichtel Mountains

?????????
Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-22-07 at 10:39:14 PDT   Listings
NOIP - Hellooooooo! Stamp related illnesses?

1. Licking used hinges causes everything from AIDS to TB to colon cancere, if you happen to swallow the hinge!

2. Breathing second hand smoke fumes eminating from "old time" collections causes lung cancer.

3. Paying for stamp lots at full catalogue is a sign of dementia.

4. Viewing eBay auctions for more than 8 hours per day is known to cause deterioration of eyesight. Furthermore, it causes family to leave home without you!

5. Stamp collectors are the largest sub-group within Gambler's Anonymous. They meet at national exhibitions to share their collections with others in an attempt to prove they are actually being constructive citizens. For some reason no others in the world care about their addiction.

6.

7.

8.

Fill in the blanks. The primary reason there are so few young collectors is they discover very quickly that stamp collecting leads to all the above diseases. So the question to ask is this - at what point do stamp collectors, this includes elitist postal historians, cease spreading social diseases among themselves and their families, and stop trying to entice youngsters into collecting? There is a reason many collections ended up in attics - the owners finally gave up collecting but had to know their collection was avaible in case of a relapse. Most died without telling their families of their disease.

Roger
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-22-07 at 08:49:27 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Here’s an interesting site. Nice to see that global oil production is about 1,000 bbl a second!! Somebody needs to provide for the massive hordes of massive SUVs clogging the streets of Los Angeles. It takes a lot of gas to sit in traffic in a Hummer, belching out CO2.



As with all other reckonings of causes of death this one is terribly flawed, because it does not account for those deaths that are really due to old age rather than any specific medical cause. Since the 20th Century death statistics have been skewed by the refusal of statisticians to recognize “the complications of age” as a legitimate category among the causes of death. Thus if a 98 year old person dies in his sleep, and an autopsy indicates nothing particularly wrong with him, the cause of death is listed as “heart failure” and it goes right into the statistics as yet another example of death from that terrible killer heart disease. Same is true of cancer. As any competent doctor will tell you, if you live long enough you will develop cancer somewhere, and in many cases this will be recorded as the official “cause of death”. This time it’s the cancer rates that get skewed.

A simple solution would be to break down cancer and heart disease death rates into simple age categories, such as “cancer deaths occurring prior to normal life expectancy” and “cancer deaths occurring subsequent to normal life expectancy”. The second category is vastly larger than the first, and broken down thusly the figures would give a more accurate assessment of the threat cancer poses to individuals who are otherwise healthy. Same would be true of heart disease.

Can’t think of a way to make this post stamp-related…

Jim
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 411 ) on Jul-22-07 at 07:39:38 PDT   Listings
D2 Nothing like a good old fashioned Bidding War to keep the sellers happy! And for What Material???
Posted by dbenson   ( 8419 ) on Jul-21-07 at 23:55:35 PDT   Listings
Just back from 4 days in the Victorian Alps, looks like all has been peaceful whilst I was away.

Paul, intrigued you are into Lagos cancels, would love to sewe them especially the numerals, can't find them anywhere in any of the reference books I have, I thought I had all the references but must been wrong unless you mean the small code numbers at the top of the circular date stamps. Which reference books are you using,

David B.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3497 ) on Jul-21-07 at 22:58:48 PDT   Listings
Jim (Jaywild),

Just got back from the EUSC annual party ---- didn't you get invited?

:-)

Matt in Arizona
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-21-07 at 22:13:09 PDT   Listings
Where is everybody….?

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-21-07 at 15:52:37 PDT   Listings
NOIP… A persistent (and unsuccessful) underbidder.

Jim
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Jul-21-07 at 15:02:44 PDT   Listings
220man You can always report your own posts and they will get deleted so don't worry!
Posted by infla-alec   ( 551 ) on Jul-21-07 at 14:49:04 PDT   Listings
220 try the images /pictures board. There you will find links to a HTML practice board
Posted by 220man   ( 153 ) on Jul-21-07 at 14:21:14 PDT   Listings
I give up. Is there a place on ebay where I can test this without jamming up this board?
Phil
Posted by 220man   ( 153 ) on Jul-21-07 at 14:19:52 PDT   Listings
Test last try
Posted by 220man   ( 153 ) on Jul-21-07 at 14:16:28 PDT   Listings
Test homer.jpg>again
Posted by 220man   ( 153 ) on Jul-21-07 at 13:58:36 PDT   Listings
Test upload
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Jul-21-07 at 13:27:20 PDT   Listings
Jim Made it as number 266
Colin We have been lucky down here in Poole, lots of rain but no flooding. You have to feel sorry for those 10,000 cars stuck on the M5 all night! For those that don't know yesterday (Friday) was the busiest day of the year on the roads in the UK as the school holidays started, the combination with the floods turned it into a nightmare for many.
Mitchell Always available to help with posting pictures but may not be around much as we have the annual South of England summer bassett party to go to:-)
cheers
Peter
Posted by infla-alec   ( 551 ) on Jul-21-07 at 12:05:20 PDT   Listings
Uploading help Further to Mitch's next topical meeting I am also willing to assist anyone who needs help in trying to learn how to upload images.If need be I will upload for you and mail you back with exactly what to copy and paste into your post here. In the first instance contact me by ebay if I can be of some assistance.

Mitch I have offered my help in advance as some may on the day have something to post but no one may be around at a suitable time to help. Pretty sure some others here can also offer similar help in advance of the meeting taking place.

Please do not be shy in asking for help. Also nothing shown here will be ridiculed. It is purely a way for collectors here to show others what we have. No matter if it is something rare or not. The aim is to participate & share. Nothing more, nothing less.

Essay's and proofs aren't something I have any of but even so I look forward to seeing whatever anyone has lurking in their collections.
Posted by xzephyr   ( 982 ) on Jul-21-07 at 11:47:43 PDT   Listings
Roger

No he’s an enthusiast of the old steam locos. I used to sail on the Norfolk broads many moons ago but I don’t own a boat so I’ll leave the rescues to the professionals. Now Sailing yachts on stamps – my favorites are the Bermuda schooners. What super stamps they are! I regret selling them off.

Colin the regretful

Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-21-07 at 11:14:56 PDT   Listings
Aloha Colin -
Is your vicar a boat builder? If so, you might lend assistance and skip the job he's left to you. He obviously knows the localized flooding will expand in scope. )'>)
Paolo - Have great vacation. Don't spill wine on new purchases and go slow on mountain passes.

Mitchell -
I'm not sure it is worth your efforts to email everyone. Those who frequent the Board will be aware of upcoming Meetings, those who require an email are not likely to actively participate, though they may view the Board.

Roger
Posted by xzephyr   ( 982 ) on Jul-21-07 at 11:01:35 PDT   Listings
IO Jim

I have just signed as # 269!

Want to bet no-one will take any notice?

With the exchange rate pretty well £1 = $2 I celebrated my birthday by buying 3 lots for $6. Useless my trying to sell small value lots in ££ or p especially now Paypal required. For a 99p lot I give about half away in fees!

I am looking at a large lot #160139367624 where there is just one stamp I need, but it is two thirds hidden by other stamps (top row blue Parks issue). As I can’t see a lot of it and the current bid is up to $79 + $6 postage I will just continue looking!

Just a bit of drizzle here in Yorkshire today and yesterday, but Thursday was a scorcher. Pity those in the south and west of England many marooned overnight on motorways and with lots of localized flooding.

The vicar of my parish has gone off on holiday so for the next 3 weeks I’m back at the old job!

I log on here pretty well every day but am usually up in the gallery with the bananas!

Colin the spendthrift.

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 639 ) on Jul-21-07 at 10:50:44 PDT   Listings
Esc917 It has been said that stamp collecting is the addiction that has no cure. Welcome, you seem to understand the reasons why. Now all you have to do is jump in with both feet..........hehehehe

Here's part of my addiction:
The World of Stamps
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 639 ) on Jul-21-07 at 10:46:48 PDT   Listings
EUSC Members Next weekend will be the clubs meeting for the month. The subject will be Proofs and essays.
I want to try something different which let more people join in by showing their own items. As many people do not know, or have not the ability to post links to the board, I am going to ask for volunteers to assist. It should work like this; who ever needs some help posting an item will state so on the board. A volunteer (who ever is a vailable at the time) will email that person through the ebay system giving them their real email address. The person seeking help can then email his/her scan/photo so that the volunteer can post it to the board. I think this should
help more members join in.
I'm debating whether I should send out invitations this month. I sent out the 500 plus invites last month and not one single member who is not a regular showed up at the meeting. Instead my mailbox is swamped with junk mail for the first time in a couple years.
da prez
Posted by esc917   ( 209 ) on Jul-21-07 at 10:26:47 PDT   Listings
If redecious means confused, then that's what I am.

Sorry, Paul! Collecting worldwide? Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Thanks for the perforations link, Jim. I might even be able to wade through a few stamps I set aside.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-21-07 at 09:43:47 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

There has been many posts about too many stamps being issued by the various major (and minor) issuing country.

Someone in the UK has started to do something about it by raising a petition to the Royal Mail.

Unfortunately it needs 1000's of signatures for RM to even look at it seriously.

If you collect UK issues - wherever you are domiciled - and of course if you agree there are too many issues - please take a minute to sign this and add your own comments if you wish.

Petition

Begun by Tony Buckingham.
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-21-07 at 08:11:38 PDT   Listings
NOIP… A friend just emailed me a quote from Divine, who played the mother in the first (and far superior) movie version of “Hairspray”—

“All my life I wanted to look like Elizabeth Taylor. Now she looks like me.” (This was when Liz was considerably overweight.)

Lindy... Aw, those are so cute! What a little minx you were (still are probably). My photo archives are scattered hither and yon, don’t know where most of them are, probably at my Mom’s house somewhere. So the small, blurry picture of me will have to do. Besides, I don’t want anyone indentity-thefting me…



By the way, the desert in the background of the school photo, that at that time stretched all the way to those mountains, is now choked and clogged with development. You could walk on the dead bodies of Gila monsters all the way to the Oracle highway and not touch ground.



esc917... Yes, by all means, you don’t want to end up looking redecious

Jim
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Jul-21-07 at 06:44:38 PDT   Listings
http://www.mendelbrot.net/mbegin/ME.htm

http://www.mendelbrot.net/UA/@USACat.htm

Michel
Posted by sayasan   ( 705 ) on Jul-21-07 at 06:15:41 PDT   Listings
esc917 - Take no notice of Paul. He's trying to be satirical. He collects worldwide, and often takes a bit of punishment on here from most of the rest of us, who have the good sense to narrow things down a bit!

Good that you enjoy the addictiveness, and want to stay with this. Getting into some depth in your chosen area can be very rewarding. Fourteen years ago, I sorted through some Burmese items that my father brought back from the war, and vaguely thought that I might continue work on what he'd accumulated. Today, I edit the Burma Study Circle journal, I'm in touch with collectors in Myanmar (ex Burma) where life under the military dictatorship is weird and organised philately is illegal, and I've learned a lot about Burmese history, politics and culture, which gives me an insight into a way of life that is quite different to my own, which I've found very valuable. And I still have a great deal to learn.

I'm sure that others here could echo this, each in their own way. Good luck.

Richard W.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jul-21-07 at 04:02:31 PDT   Listings
ESC 917 ----Congratualtions on getting interesting in stamps . Stamps can be a very interesting hobby .You are correct you will need to specialise.There are just too many stamps to collect .Today im specialing in Lagos stamps and sorting stuff to city cancels and number cancels .Tomorrow will be working on modern France .But it gets frustrating to serious collectors like me to see some people who come om here and just willy-nilley collect everything ,thats just redecious.....off to work ,need funds for a stamp auction in the fall ....paul
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-21-07 at 03:24:40 PDT   Listings
Rmhubbs6326,
Nice picture: IMO you are the third from the right in the back row, standing with the teacher.
I should have some of mine here but at the moment can't find it: most of my pics as a kid are at my home in Italy.

*Breaking News: major Law Suit against Microsof & Internet Exploder: herds of people with permanent damage, such as rheumatisms, caused by the draft of keeping too many Windows open.* ;-)

Should start to pack my bags, said von-bag.

Paolo
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 422 ) on Jul-21-07 at 03:04:53 PDT   Listings
JayJim do you mean photos of when we were Nine years old? or
when we were sweet Seventeen ?
I've got my Mom's albums with lots of photos in them.

rmh sure was a cute kid, can't really see you in your photo, surely you have a better one?

Linda
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 411 ) on Jul-20-07 at 22:57:43 PDT   Listings
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Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-20-07 at 22:04:19 PDT   Listings
esc917… Well I’m very glad to hear that you’re getting interested in stamps, and that you are going to pick an area to specialize in. This board is an excellent resource for anyone whether a long time collector or someone just starting out. Some of the top experts in stamps hand out here, and will gladly lend a hand with any questions you might have.

Here’s a website that might help you with your perforation gauge.

Jim
Posted by esc917   ( 209 ) on Jul-20-07 at 21:56:51 PDT   Listings
Jim:

I'm keeping some of the stamps, perhaps adding to them later on. But the collection right now is so diverse, with varying amounts of used and unused from almost every country, that I can't possibly keep them all. I'm drowning in stamps.

I'm not entirely sure where my grandfather got his stamps - he died in 1946 - but the most valuable stamps and older ones were raided by other relatives soon after his death. They gave just a bit above face value to my grandmother because she didn't know that they were worth anything. It irks me - I can see the holes in the collection.

A lot of other stamps were sent by traveling friends and relatives to other friends and relatives - both used and unused.

And then there's the newer ones collected by my mother from the sixties on - those are almost worthless but she loved collecting them. Will they be worth something to my future grandchildren? great grandchildren?

And all my relatives always took the used stamps off the envelope! I wish I could go back in time and stop them! At least some of the time!

I guess I have two main complaints. I still can't figure out the perforations (yes, I have the tool, but I'm confused) and no one warned me this was addictive.
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-20-07 at 21:22:31 PDT   Listings
esc917… Welcome to the stamps chatboard. Did you ever think of collecting stamps yourself, i.e. enlarging your inherited collection with additions of your own? Just a suggestion of course.

The truth is, a collection is worth what was spent on acquiring it. Stamps from packets and approval services offered by Mystic Stamps or Jamestown Stamps are the ways most collections were put together. This results usually in beautiful collections without a lot of resale value.

If your forebears ever bought stamps at auctions however, or from consignment sellers, that’s a solid guarantee there’s real monetary value in the collection.

Jim
Posted by esc917   ( 209 ) on Jul-20-07 at 21:03:57 PDT   Listings
Hi. I'm new here. I thought it would be simple - help my mother sell her collection (I know it's cliche, but it's true in my case, started by my grandfather, and great uncles, etc.)- and then I'd get on with my life. Hah! Also, why aren't stamps used to help students learn about the world? There's so much in each of them - history, social studies, art-. Also, once I got over my initial, futile hope that I'd find one worth enough to pay off the house, I love the identification process in itself. Does anyone else feel that way? Sorry, as I said, I'm new and avoided any talk about stamps with my parents when I was young. Younger, I mean. Slightly younger.
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 469 ) on Jul-20-07 at 20:18:53 PDT   Listings
Roger: Good ones! There is almost a language barrier.

A quick story... When I was about 13 years old, the whole family took a 2 week vacation down route 95, all the way to Key West, and back again.
My brother was 21 or so, and he drove the 2nd car, my father driving his own car as well.
So we made it to somewhere in North Carolina before my brothers car had engine trouble. We found a garage, and the hilarity ensued.
I couldn't understand a word they were saying, no one could and vice versa I'm sure. Halfway though the conversation, my father leaned towards my brother and said, "I think they're trying to cheat you."
Everyone laughed at that, even the NC guys.

And then we stopped for breakfast in Georgia, maybe on the way back, I don't recall...
The waitress after taking the order asked my mother if she would like "geez" (it sounded like that.) with that.
She said "sure, put it on my eggs." My father said, "say that sounds good, I'll take that too."
She wouldn't though, who puts "juice" on their eggs?
Posted by fbs1977   ( 3 )   on Jul-20-07 at 19:50:00 PDT   Listings
Thank you for your reply keleofa. I will follow your advice and call some auction houses. And to think, I just thought it was a good looking 376 all this time!! You never can tell sometimes, but I guess the experts can. Thanks again.
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-20-07 at 19:29:14 PDT   Listings
rmhubbs… You prompted me to see if I have any ancient pictures of myself, and rooting around in my papers I found this, commencement day at Green Fields school, May of 1963, the end of my 7th grade. (All grades are represented—it was a very small school.) Moi is indicated by the red arrow.

Anybody else have daguerreotypes of their own to share?



Jim
Posted by keleofa   ( 3497 ) on Jul-20-07 at 19:09:05 PDT   Listings
fbs1977,

Wow. A 359 --- Excellent! (USA: 3c Washington-Franklin issue of 1909 on Bluish Paper - $2000 Unused)

To determine value on a rare stamp in that condition; either contact some of the major auction houses and ask what they think that stamp would realize in their auctions or find auction prices realized for similar stamps MNG. You could also have it appraised for insurance purposes.

Congrats on your cert!

Matt in Arizona

Posted by fbs1977   ( 3 )   on Jul-20-07 at 18:44:52 PDT   Listings
I recently got a U.S.Scott 359 certified and it is genuine unused but with no gum. How do I calculate its value if it would normally be Graded VF-80 OGNH, if it had gum that is?? Thank you for your help everybody.
Posted by billsey   ( 848 ) on Jul-20-07 at 17:29:10 PDT   Listings
Heh, I wore glasses at that age too. :-)
Posted by rmhubbs6326   ( 387 ) on Jul-20-07 at 17:22:12 PDT   Listings
Hah! It worked1
Posted by rmhubbs6326   ( 387 ) on Jul-20-07 at 17:21:39 PDT   Listings
HMMM...... let's see if I can make this work.

Kindergarten, 1957, Elbridge NY

Can you find me? HINT: "Who's the leader of the gang, that's made for you and me . . ."
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-20-07 at 16:50:12 PDT   Listings
Rmhubbs6326, ehm ;-)
I didn't notice your question regarding how to post a picture: you first have to make the digital picture, which I positively assume you already made ;-), then UPLOAD it to a web server, such as tinypic.com, imageshack.com, or whatever.
When you come here, if the image is below 5 kbytes you are free to post it immediately, with the following code:
<img src=URL>
If not, you can always link to it -- this is also less compromising LOL -- by using the code in the Yellow Boxes regularly posted by Mr. Dr. Claghorn! (If you are in troble doing so, I am quick to give you help).

All the best to you and all the others, Paolo
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-20-07 at 16:47:19 PDT   Listings
re Mary Wade,

our department secretary says that the name Charles Wade rings a bell.
She has text-messaged her sister (a postperson) who is on vacation to see if she knows more.
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-20-07 at 16:13:34 PDT   Listings
Rmhubbs6326,
Thanks for your reply.
Philately is just like a very beautiful being (man, woman, entity, cited generically to remain impartial): many do fall in love with it.
Anyone can get to philately, with study and/or with money, since it is a non-reasoning entity... the most beautiful being of one's dreams might be a more difficult target, if not impossible.
Maybe that is why I am obsessed with stamps!
I, like you, am one of them.
Paolo
Posted by rmhubbs6326   ( 387 ) on Jul-20-07 at 15:10:59 PDT   Listings
Antonius and Vonbag

I only post occasionally, when I have something worthwhile to say. Which is mostly, not that often. I am always up in the balcony, though, 'midst the banana peels and beer bottles, trying to keep an eye open on whoever is wearing the Asbestos Overcoat that day.

I do enjoy reading the posts from people like Paul and Io and all the others, sparks and all. This board is a wonderful reflection of real life (when even Nice People gey testy). I don't contribute to much of the discussions, though, because I don't know beans about razor cancels or Egyptian postmarks or such. I only collect stamps because I love to collect stamps.

In terms of the picture, I'm told that the little boy in "A Chrsitmas Story" movie is a dead-ringer for me at that age. I pity the poor guy, though, if he grows up to look like me.

I forget how to post pictures: I could post others, like my first-grade class picture from 1959. Maybe if I get ambitious. . .

Tonight is HARRY POTTER night at local Barnes & Nobles store, so of course my 11-year-old wants to go. Going to take a nap first, though, because I crawl out of bed at 5:00 am each morning, and it is a lo-o-o-ong haul to midnight.
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-20-07 at 14:59:59 PDT   Listings
I am leaving for holidays!

See you all in about three weeks.



;-=)
Good continuation, Paolo
Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-20-07 at 14:36:13 PDT   Listings
Joke Time

Georgia

A Georgia State trooper pulled over a pickup on I-75. The trooper asked, "Got any I. D. ?"

The driver replied, "Bout whut?"

Florida

The owner of a golf course was confused about paying an invoice, so he decided to ask his secretary for some mathematical help. He called her into his office and said, "You graduated from the University of Florida and I need some help. If I were to give you $20,000, minus 14%, how much would you take off?"

The secretary thought a moment, and then replied, "Everything but my earrings."

Finally -
South Carolina

A man in South Carolina had a flat tire, pulled off on the side of the road, and proceeded to put a bouquet of flowers in front of the car and one behind it.

Then he got back in the car to wait. A passerby studied the scene as he drove by and was so curious he turned around and went back. He asked the fellow what the problem was. 
The man replied, "I have a flat tire."

The passerby asked, "But what's with the flowers?"

The man responded, "When you break down they tell you to put flares in the front and flares in the back. Hey, it don't make sense to me neither."

Have a good day.

Roger
Posted by peterc8888   ( 332 ) on Jul-20-07 at 14:04:23 PDT   Listings
Jim

Fortunately, I have learned it from here. That is why the link is "not this one though".


PC
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-20-07 at 13:48:24 PDT   Listings
peterc8888… I hope you know that the $2 Madison in that lot you linked to is the later perf 10 version that’s worth only a few dollars.

Jim
Posted by peterc8888   ( 332 ) on Jul-20-07 at 13:33:58 PDT   Listings
I wish I can win the 1902 $2 stamp not this one though

PC
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-20-07 at 11:49:15 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Where in the world is this guy getting his valuations?

greenwave... Over here we pay $7 a gallon for hot air. It’s called “political advertising”.



Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-20-07 at 10:07:11 PDT   Listings
For Bob in WA who hasn't posted lately:

The Verrazano Narrows bridge.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Jul-20-07 at 09:30:23 PDT   Listings
Jim Yes but I bet you don't pay the equivalent of $7 a gallon.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-20-07 at 08:47:01 PDT   Listings
Peter

Those do not include the bridge and tunnel fees which are:

Whitestone, Throggsneck, Triborough $4.50 each way.
Tappanzee $4 southbound
Bayonne, Goethals, Outer, GW $6 one way
Verrazano $9 westbound.
Queens and Broklynn tunnels $4.50 each way
Holland and Lincoln $6 eastbound.

Nor the proposed truck fee of $21 for the lower than 86th part of Manhattan.

Alternatives include cutting bus and subway fares to $0.50 and having odd-even days.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 80 ) on Jul-20-07 at 08:03:54 PDT   Listings
Jim I can sell you a congestion charging system as per London:-) Pity I think NY decided against it, but it will coming to you sooner or later!
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-20-07 at 07:27:32 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

soggy

At $6.95 per half hour of parking, you need some way to disguise the fact.
I think NY is trying to make city center car-free apart from txis and buses.
Apart from the horrendous parking fees, the new proposal for an $8 entrance fee, per car, into Manhattan is the last straw for many people.
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on Jul-20-07 at 06:12:39 PDT   Listings
iomoon
The reason that you do not see many parking signs like that one in New York is that it is illegal. The format is strictly controlled to prevent "confusion". It gives me an idea for some new signs at the stamp show!
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1373 ) on Jul-20-07 at 03:23:10 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


Roger
You’ve found a new way for us to keep better discussion times up on the board longer. It will take some attention to detail, but when the first posting of the discussion gets to position #195 on the list make another post like the one you reported and it will stay up for another 199 posts. :8^D)

Jim L.


member
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-20-07 at 03:05:02 PDT   Listings
Good day all!
Interesting me page, Rmhubbs!

In Italy is hot, about 38 deg Celsius in the shadow at my place, looks like it's warmer than any other place in Souther Europe: too bad I have to go there (in good company this time, though)! ;-)
Maybe I will move down to Africa in the next years, or maybe I wait until Africa moves to us.


Roger,
Congrats on your interesting purchases!
Regarding your 1881 international printed matter to Frankfurt, Postal Card 5 rp. in black uprated to 7 rp. with 2 Rp. adhesive -- on white paper since the granite paper one was distributed from VII. 1881 (here), I gather that from 17. XI. 1862 the flat rate was indeed 7 Rp. (up to 1 Loth, 15.6 g).
I have some examples of Italian Postal Cards sent abroad as printed matter, which was cheaper. Often the inscription 'Cartolina Postale' is crossed out by the sender.
One could do this if on the text side -- normally the reverse side of the Postal Card -- there was indeed something printed, like an advertisment, or if the written text contained less than five words (or something like that), with a salutation and a signature.

Linda Thank you for your kind words!

Paolo

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-19-07 at 21:35:47 PDT   Listings

Good night all

riff-vanwinkle

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 639 ) on Jul-19-07 at 19:41:49 PDT   Listings
rmhubbs Nice to see you back! Seems like a ong time since you posted here. Hope all is well in your world.
You gotta be right about that picture on your mepage, hard to imagine a cuter(sp) kid (you had that late fifties look nailed down).

Riff raff and loving it. If I don't make squat in a week it dosen't matter. I have low overhead, it ain't about the money but family, friends, happiness, good food, land and all the animals on it. I'm a very rich guy with low bank balance (forget any savings or pension).
A bunch of stamps is also nice!
Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-19-07 at 19:00:41 PDT   Listings
Miss Lindy -
If I hadn't reported myself, the error would never have been corrected. As an upstanding member of the community I felt an obligation to report myself and the error of my ways. If I had been an eBay programmer, not only would I not have reported myself, but the eBay software gurus would not have recognized any problem with the Board.

It was a simple error worthy of being commemorated in fine literature as I went "Beyond the Unknown".

Roger
PS: I really wanted the job.
Posted by theresaq917   ( 21 ) on Jul-19-07 at 18:53:30 PDT   Listings
Linda
Thanks but I don't know how
Theresa
Posted by rmhubbs6326   ( 387 ) on Jul-19-07 at 18:31:21 PDT   Listings
re. Mary A. Wade mentioned in post on July 18 @ 21:55:13:

In 1930 U. S. Census, Mary Wade is listed as 7-year-old daughter to Jim C. (age 35) and Freda (age 31)Wade, living at 83 West 12th Street in Alpine. Also there was sister Margaret, age 4, and Jim C.'s brother Charles, age 20. Jim's occupation is listed as mail truck driver.

Mary then would have been 15 years olfd in 1938 when she got the letter.

Couldn't find her in SSDI; undoubtedly married and listed under her married name. Chance she could still be alive now; she would be 84, just a year younger than my mother-in-law, who continues to bedevil me.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 411 ) on Jul-19-07 at 18:09:24 PDT   Listings
D2 Nothing like a good old fashioned Bidding War to keep the sellers happy! And for What Material???
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-19-07 at 17:56:48 PDT   Listings

mac-raff - to borrow from Star Trek - You boldly go where few have gone before.

html-raff

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 419 ) on Jul-19-07 at 17:30:12 PDT   Listings
Theresa if they are thick and have a weight.. say 1/2ounce or so, you could sell them for the scrap gold price,
Philatelically they have a minimal value, they are/were produced for the 'souvenir' type market, not for stamp collectors
Why not link a scan of some here on the board?

Linda
Posted by theresaq917   ( 21 ) on Jul-19-07 at 16:56:32 PDT   Listings
Thanks to those who answered my post. The 22 kt gold replica stamp collection has a certificate of membership stating that each stamp is a 22kt gold replica of orginal stamp. This collection also came with an official first day cover bearing the first day of issue postmark of the first day city designated by US Postal Service. I checked the stamps they are not gold foil or silver plated.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 419 ) on Jul-19-07 at 16:44:49 PDT   Listings
Dear Mr.Malolo,
thank you for your job application, unfortunately, we cannot accept your services at present. The error you made was corrected within 8 minutes. Totally unacceptable, ebay require at least a 30day lag in correction of any errors, and then only if they are really really really bad errors. Minor errors in the system may stay for up to 2 years until another programer comes up with an even wierder suggestion.
keep trying and good luck in your job hunt.
sincerely,
the Technical -raff
Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-19-07 at 16:33:16 PDT   Listings
Jeff -
First try I screwed up the first link.
Second try I copied the "View Source" of this page and made a correction that seemed to make thigs right, This seems to have placed a teable within the table.

I reported both posts. Lesson learned. Don't copy code from Page Source. There is strange code within.

Anyway, back to normal after using my decoder ring to generate corrections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_decoder_ring

My job application is now being processed by eBay Creative Software Dept. I'm hoping to enhance other pages on eBay. LOL
Roger
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 419 ) on Jul-19-07 at 16:32:08 PDT   Listings
opps roger forgot to close a tag!!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-19-07 at 16:30:43 PDT   Listings

thanks

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-19-07 at 16:25:23 PDT   Listings

who screwed up the board

heckel-jeckel

Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-19-07 at 16:25:16 PDT   Listings
Paolo -
Just for the record I have added to my Sitting Helvetia recently.
1. 1866 Refused collect letter.

2. Franco-Prussian letter from Lyon, France to Berlin, posted in Geneve to bypass Paris which was still under siege. Quite scarce usage.

3. 1874 registered 10 +10.

4.1875 Tiffany to Paris

5.1881 international printed matter to Frankfurt. I will take this to Portland to get an expert tell me how the ratewas calulated. I've not seen one of these before.

Hope I got the links right. (This is third try!@#$#$#@)

Roger
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 419 ) on Jul-19-07 at 15:15:20 PDT   Listings
oh, Roger & Paolo thanks for a good laugh at breakfast time.
Keep up the good work.

Linda
mini*raff
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-19-07 at 14:55:27 PDT   Listings
Roger
Exquisite disquisition!
I actually found fragments of information, fished out of an old edition of a Romanian Swiss second hand stamp catalogue, written in Romansch, thus easier for me to understand, around an orange black with greenish overtones and a faint hinge of red in it; it can only be detected with the light at dawn, but when it's not yet completely day, in a clear sky day... preferably over Bucarest. They write that the so-called 'green at dawn but not completely day with a bit of red', AKA 'the bloody Mary green' (heard this in a philatelic pub in Belfast) is extremely light-sensitive and it can only be sent away accidentally -- or exorcised, if you wish, so to reduce the chances of getting into endless discussions -- with a mixture of garlic and watermark fluid, only mass produced in Transylvania.

;-) Paolo
Posted by kathct   ( 1185 ) on Jul-19-07 at 14:55:01 PDT   Listings
Thanks everyone for the input! Stamps are completely foreign to me. Maybe I will list it just for the heck of it. I will check back again if anyone has more comments.


Thanks again!

Posted by lluehhhb   ( 283 ) on Jul-19-07 at 14:01:41 PDT   Listings
Next auction by Philatelic society of Chile is up.
Posted by 220man   ( 152 ) on Jul-19-07 at 13:15:43 PDT   Listings
kathct: Your cover probably was sent home by a crewmember. The ship was enroute to join the Pacific Fleet for the Korean War.
I seem to remember that Sneeky (who used to hang out here) may have been a crewman at some time after that cruise.
Phil
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-19-07 at 12:39:45 PDT   Listings
kathct

What you have is an "event" cover.
In this case, the event of rounding the horn (by the first AC).
Being naval, it is possibly worth a bit more and would generate a little more interest than most.
But I have to agree with jeff-raff.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-19-07 at 12:33:21 PDT   Listings

kathct not much, here is a USS Oriskany search in US covers. Yours looks wrinkley with a weak postmark at top. If mine I wouldn't bother listing it.

frick-frack

Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-19-07 at 11:49:55 PDT   Listings
Paolo -
That shade of green is just a little darker than "dark greyish green". It's a subtle difference that experts recognize. It is a rare shade found off cover in windows of low level retail stamp sellers. It is doubtful many more shades of the stamp will be discovered. There has been a new discovery recently "dark greenish black", which is only found online when sellers use HP scanners in conjunction with MS IE 6 - 7. Apple users have yet to find this variety. The shade they keep finding is the common Granny Smith Green.

Roger
Posted by kathct   ( 1185 ) on Jul-19-07 at 11:36:20 PDT   Listings
Hi! I was wondering if anyone could help me with this letter, stamp and postmark. As you can see the envelope says Round Cape Horn/ USS Oriskany/ 29 June 1952. And it is postmarked that day.


Any ideas on how much it is worth and keywords to use in the title? I am a book dealer so I'd appreciate any help! Thanks!


whole envelope
postmark

I have to pick up my daughter shortly, but I'll stop back periodically.

Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-19-07 at 11:07:10 PDT   Listings
Roger, (font color=red ;-))
It's just the result of some of the pins (or punches) being worn (Zu. N. XX.01.06.666 comma 34, deeper come 25 artikel 36, seite 8965: eine grösse rarität - die kastenzanung abgenutz, the last days of the 9 1/2 perfs). Just a slight corner crease and a pin-hole,
said the pin head.
Besides, I see a bit of black in that orange... how can one person purpoting to be an expert in philately, unless he's suffering of a beer indegestion, coin a colour name like this:
"light blackish green"
It is plain ridicolous, IMO.

;-) Paolo (semi-serious, riff raff)
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-19-07 at 10:43:01 PDT   Listings

rip-rap

Hey big spender...

Peggy Lee, 195?

hedge-hog

Posted by dcderoo   ( 1671 ) on Jul-19-07 at 09:58:56 PDT   Listings
Precancel lot. Don't know how good, but...

http://cgi.ebay.com/AMAZING-WONDERFUL-USA-STATE-PRECANCELLED-STAMPS-LOT_W0QQitemZ110148874272QQihZ001QQcategoryZ264QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-19-07 at 09:40:21 PDT   Listings
Aloha -
Here's one for jaywild's collection of graded stamps. This is a -15.

Paolo -
Try to find the plating guides for the UPU series. I'm certain there are books published that illustrate the sheets.

Iomoon -
Brudda, you gotta bid higher, then you have all da stamps and beat da guy. Then he quit using eBay, you get da field to yo self.

Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-19-07 at 08:16:34 PDT   Listings
Whoopee,

I got one!!!!
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Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-19-07 at 06:32:47 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

Jim

nope!
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1373 ) on Jul-19-07 at 04:10:27 PDT   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


Jim L.


member
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-19-07 at 00:41:42 PDT   Listings
P.S. As a goal for the future, I may try to re-compose at least the pane of '50' of one of the cheapest values of the 1900 UPU Issue. I would need some large blocks, at least a picture of it, but I understand that these are extremely rare (already the block of four is difficult to get, judging from the cat. value).
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-19-07 at 00:30:22 PDT   Listings
Roger,
Thank you for the explanation and for your comments!
Regarding the preprinted sheets, in grey or olive, I had seen the advertisment on the simplified Zumstein catalog
There are for the 'rayon' stamps as well (also in black). It's funny that originally, because of the small picture in the ad., I thought they were reproductions of a deal of the real sheet. I have some of these for Sicily 1859 (the Sizilien Platten of Friedl -- which costed me an eye of the head -- and the plates of Emilio Diena) and a few other Issues. Later I read better, and understood they were just 'dummies'.
I didn't know that sometimes these were offered on eBay purported to be proofs! LOL!

Paolo
Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-18-07 at 22:14:58 PDT   Listings
I guess Ms Mary got a Butte of a cover.

Couldn't resist.

Here's a lot I didn't get today. The Zurich receiver is one I've never seen before. I emailed my friend in Switzerland and he found one in a dealer's box and decided to look it up sometime inthe future. It turns up on the very first page of teh Guller proof book known to have been used soley for deCoppet devices. It is quite possible that the group of 5 cancels shown on the pages were made and "disapproved", though still distributed. The date is for them is August 1903. The first set of mass production test cancelers were made in 1902, as seen on this page and the following. It seems we have found a new missing link prior to the crreation and distribution of the Fleuron design of December 1903.
I'll look for a cheaper version, he said shrugging it off!!@##@$#$#$

Roger



Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-18-07 at 21:55:13 PDT   Listings
Iomoon… Do you happen to know a Miss Mary Wade by chance???

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-18-07 at 20:34:17 PDT   Listings
Milenko… Well, then I don’t know. I get very easily confused trying to figure out certain rates, especially international.



Jim
Posted by djs127   ( 594 ) on Jul-18-07 at 18:57:05 PDT   Listings
Linda Thanks for telling me about and where the opt out is.
I never would have seen that all the way at the bottom.
Well I don't like the new search it doesn't work!
Don't you love programmers always breaking things when they make changes. I was once a programmer myself. Cobol,PL/1, SAS, Fortran, C, C++, Dbase II, etc.
David Snyder
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 283 ) on Jul-18-07 at 18:47:48 PDT   Listings
Jim,
I've checked "Postal rates of Chile" by Ross Towle, and it says that the 1921 UPAEP convention provided for free postage (domestically and within the UPAEP) to the international Office of UPAEP and the members of diplomatic corps of their members. I see that USA joined the UPAEP in that 1921 convention, so It would apply.

However, the discussed cover is from 1910, so that reglament can't explain the free frank.
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-18-07 at 18:31:09 PDT   Listings
Milenko & Jeff S… Yes, I now concur with Jeff’s explanation for the “missing” stamps. Enlarging the scan, it looks as if the cover did indeed get folded at that place, accounting for the widely spaced cancel.

I found this in Beecher/Wawrukiewicz, page 213—

“Diplomatic Corps:
(A) Act of Feb 1929: correspondence of members of the Diplomatic Corps of the Pan American Union stationed in the US may be reciprocally transmitted in the domestic mails free of postage and registered free, without any right of indemnity in case of loss...
(D) …effective July 1 1972 ended free mailing of Diplomatic and Consular mail.”

The key seems to be that “domestic” mail was free to the Pan American Union. Presumably the person who sent the cover thought international mail was free also, and the clerk in Santiago realized the error and assessed the postage due.

Jim
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-18-07 at 17:11:31 PDT   Listings

figment88 - such items command little premium or interest by mainstream collectors unless they are able to pick them up at a show for free such as first day ceremonies; if lucky you might find someone needing one for a thematic display who would pay $10 for it.

the poster lloydstamps some posts below is a FDC collector, you might contact him directly for more info.

jeff-raff

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-18-07 at 17:06:31 PDT   Listings

I suggest the cover to Chile was posted unfranked, got scrunched going through the cancelling machine. When un-scrunched it shows a large gap. Try to visualize folding the cover based on what looks like crease lines and it might become evident.

I have no idea on the free franking.

local-yokel

Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-18-07 at 17:04:39 PDT   Listings

Paolo -
The Lausanne Consig. Mess. cancel originates from the Mail Acceptance Division, which was primarily dealing with money or declared value items, hence the cancel on a 1Fr stamp.
The Division had a razor canceler but it was not used often, rated 6/13 on rarity scale.

The 5 centimes UPU Basel razor is rated 5, but the stamp is more valuable for the lack of the engraver’s name. Nice clear example! Morning times are indicated using Roman numerals, afternoon times Arabic (Your example is 8pm.) until 1917, when Switzerland conformed to the European 24 hour clock making 8 = 8am.

Nice to see you plating UPU. There are preprinted sheets of 25 stamps used for collectors to indicated the flaws found on their stamp. They are displayed beside each other the stamp on left and the plate flaw image on the right. I went to the Zumstein webpage and it has been updated and no longer works. One needs to get into their “Shop” and scroll down to these items. They are also available for the Standing helvetia stamps. I seem to remember €4/ 500. Sometimes you can get a really good deal on eBay where they are offered as proofs with starting prices up to $25 each! @#@#????

Roger
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-18-07 at 15:28:35 PDT   Listings
Milenko… The return address on your Washington DC cover is the “International Bureau of the American Republics”, which became the Organization of American States (OAS) in 1948. The OAS is not part of the US government, and in fact the “penalty” printing at upper right does not conform to the law regarding free US government mail. The inscription OFFICIAL BUSINESS must be printed at the left under the return address. There is a provision under US law for “free diplomatic mail” which I am assuming this might fall under, however it also appears that at least two stamps have been removed from the cover at some point—there is a very big space between the dial and the killer of the cancellation. Normally those are within about a centimeter of each other.

I can only guess how that cover ended up that way. Perhaps others here might be able to shed more light.

Jim
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 283 ) on Jul-18-07 at 14:32:22 PDT   Listings
Interesting US-Chile cover here.

Seems to be an official envelope from Washington to Valparaíso.

1)The free franking of these official envelopes was valid for International mail?

2)There are no "T" or postage due marks. It seems that the postal clerk in Chile didn't recognize as valid franking the official cover (since it had no stamps) and taxed it. The double of an international letter was paid in regular stamps.
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-18-07 at 12:05:46 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Hmmm—it’s been a while since we heard from Timberwolf the cat…

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-18-07 at 12:03:16 PDT   Listings
Matt in AZ… Thanks—that was exactly what I was looking for.

I wonder how many covers are out there correctly franked, as this one seems to be. I have others where registration was paid by stamps, and under the “Free mail” section Wawrukiewicz states that the rules were so confusing most of the time even the postal clerks did not understand them.

Jim
Posted by figment81   ( 20 ) on Jul-18-07 at 11:23:18 PDT   Listings
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can help me determine whether or not it's worth trying to sell two Fleetwood collector's panels I have inherited. The first collector's panel is of the 15 cent Folk Art series(SC# 1775-1778), signed by the artist Jim Butcher and numbered 160/590. The second panel is "Wildflowers of America" (SC# 1783-1786), signed by the artist Maryrose Wampler and numbered 421/950. Any thoughts? I'm curious to know if there's any interest in these panels. Thanks!
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-18-07 at 11:20:04 PDT   Listings
P.P.S. you sure don't want to know which was my top bid here.
I think to recall it was a miserable 20% of CV for a rare stamp, albeit defective: horizontal frame line touched at top right.
Paolo
Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1448 ) on Jul-18-07 at 11:08:51 PDT   Listings
Grading Stamps on a Certificate: I am against it. I went through the 80's when I had sent in some coins to "Anacs" to have graded. They mostly came back with high grades. Not too many years later, I re-submiited them, and also sent some to "PCGS". Every coin came back one to three grades lower than what they were originally graded at just 5 years earlier! A bummer.

I will change my mind about this subject if a machine is invented which can grade stamps and be both 100% accurate and 100% consistant. Until then, I will settle, for:genuiness,fault's,alteration's,re-perfing,and regumming and identification as the only reason's to have a stamp certified. Ted. PS: I am a 26 yr. member of the APS.
Posted by vonbag   ( 177 ) on Jul-18-07 at 11:05:19 PDT   Listings
EOIG & Roger ;-)
As promised, here is the "strange" (to me) cancel of Lausanne.
On the left of it, the 5c. green of plate 2, Issue of 1900, 25th anniversary of UPU (at my home, we call 'Jubileum' that one that comes every 50 years, not every 25 years ;-) with tye best variety of the Issue for the 5 c. denomination: retouch on the bottom frame line and, consequently, missing 'FLORIAN S' in the inscriptions at bottom.
Cancelled with "BASEL - BRF EXP" razor CDS on "15.X.00 - 8" (October 15, 1900... at 8 o'clock?), this stamp occupied position 170 in the sheet of 200 (four panes of 50).
This position is univocally identifiable also from the small -- but intense -- colour dots, one between 7 and 5 of '1875' and one beneath the 1 of 1900.
Just found it in the lot (catalogue value Euro 250,00), it is genuine and perfect.

Still from plate II of the same UPU Issue of 1900, here is the entirely newly engraved weapon shield on the 10 cents aniline red (- extremely water fugitive ink -- seher wasserempfindlich!--, I know something about it, unfortunately - 'bright orange' answer under UV light). It's another one amongst the 'topper varieties' of the Issue; here is a detail of a normal shield, at left, and the re- engraved shield at right. Besides the many difference, described in the Zumstein and Michel catalogues, the re- engraved shield misses the small red dot on the left white margin of the shield, which is recurrent, as though as a 'secret sign', in the few hundreds of stamps I examined.
This one occupied position 139 in the sheet of 200 (4 panes, or groups, as I call it, of 50).
On the top frame line this position shows a small indentation, a smudge on its outer portion, right above 'UN' of 'UNION', which is common to at least (AFAIK) other three positions in the sheet.
It is cancelled with "AARAU" razor CDS on September 1900; genuine but defective along right margin (small tears, black spots, nasty creases to the edge, likely for having been applied 'a cheval' on the postal object where it originated.

I would have much more to show, I love Swiss postage stamps! With the time and more material examined I will show you more Swiss varieties ( preferably with, but also without Razor cancels ;-)).

All the best,
Paolo

P.S. I am very happy also because I received this ROMAGNE lot today.
The plate fault on the 4 Baj. is extremely scarce (you can call it rare in unused condition, be confident ;-));
on the paper, only 750 pieces were printed in 1859, this one recurring only at position 48, every sheet of 120 (two groups of 60 one over each other witth gutter interpane) for a declared total printing of 90000 copies of the 4 Baj..
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on Jul-18-07 at 08:21:53 PDT   Listings
cjavine thank you.

BilL D.
Posted by cjavine   ( 446 ) on Jul-18-07 at 08:02:32 PDT   Listings
wrd3

Road Runner & Wile E. Coyote Pane of 10
Scott # 3391 All stamps perf. CV $9.00
Scott # 3392 Right Stamp no die cutting CV $40.00

This should be the catalog value for 2007 I believe.
Posted by lloydstamps   ( 574 ) on Jul-18-07 at 06:39:58 PDT   Listings
New articles now on The Virtual Stamp Club Web site, www.virtualstampclub.com:

  • Ken Lawrence makes his case against grading stamps.
  • Randall Sherman reports on a duck stamp ceremony in Gurnee, Illinois.
  • The editor-in-chief of Marvel Comics talks about the upcoming Super Heroes stamps (text and audio).
  • Posted by paperhistory   ( 1989 ) on Jul-18-07 at 05:42:49 PDT   Listings
    I don't have my literature with me but only some, not all, government agencies had the ability to register mail under their "free" franking privilege. But as Matt of AZ notes, return receipt was not covered. That's actually a very nice usage.
    Posted by soccers_cn1   ( 34 ) on Jul-18-07 at 05:01:51 PDT   Listings
    http://bp2.blogger.com/_8AMmfBQS1QA/Rp372Zb6glI/AAAAAAAAB4o/6ghYHCD6bDo/s320/2007-07-10+Korea+Fruit.JPG

    Republic of Korea Fruit FDC I got it today.

    you can find more world wide real posted FDC in my blog.
    http://myfdc.blogspot.com
    Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on Jul-18-07 at 04:56:39 PDT   Listings
    postalhysteria thank you for the additional information about the Trinidad stamp. I'll pass the information along to my friend.

    NOIP any feedback on the other questions I posted earlier:
    I'm helping a neighbor who has inherited some stamps and wants to sell what he's not interested in. I have questions on 4 items:

    1. Is there any value in covers from Lithuania from 1989-1991 (including some registered letters)? Best to just sell as a lot (perhaps 50 covers)?

    2. Is there any value in covers from China from the late 1980's (including some registered letters)? Best to sell as a single lot (perhaps 10 covers)?

    3. Was the roadrunner/coyote pane issued both with the rightmost stamp with die cuts and with the rightmost stamp imperforate? My most recent catalog doesn't have this issue, which is from 2000. I believe the bugs bunny pane with the rightmost stamp imperforate has a reasonably significant CV, but don't know about the roadrunner/coyote issue.

    Thank you,
    Bill D.
    Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1373 ) on Jul-18-07 at 03:27:00 PDT   Listings
    Greetings
    and an Indiana "Good Morning"
    to you all



    Jim L.


    member
    Posted by de66   ( 1110 ) on Jul-17-07 at 23:44:50 PDT   Listings
    Hmmm

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130135259869&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=130135259751&itemcount=12&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
    Posted by de66   ( 1110 ) on Jul-17-07 at 23:44:20 PDT   Listings
    Where will it all end

    Stanley Gibbons UK Selling a Queensland stamp with a fiscal cancel as genuine!!!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewItem&item=130135259869

    D1
    Posted by mini*lindy   ( 419 ) on Jul-17-07 at 23:38:48 PDT   Listings
    djs David if you scroll to the bottom of the search page you will see a note that its a TEST SEARCH, TO opt out, 'click' and return to normal search.

    Linda
    Posted by keleofa   ( 3496 ) on Jul-17-07 at 20:26:26 PDT   Listings
    Free Registration...

    See Beecher & W., page 223 regarding Free Registration.

    Matt in Arizona
    Posted by keleofa   ( 3496 ) on Jul-17-07 at 20:23:44 PDT   Listings
    Jim (Jaywild),

    Effective 26 March 1944, 4c for Return Receipt

    The US Government has free franking privileges. In my copy of Beecher & W., page 238 I highlighted note b.3., return receipt fees applies to all, even if registered free.

    My understanding of this clause is that even the US government using a Penalty envelope had to pay for a return receipt. Therefore only 4c postage was required.

    Matt in Arizona
    Posted by nomad55   ( 901 ) on Jul-17-07 at 20:19:51 PDT   Listings
    jaywild - is there a stamp missing that had been previously removed?
    The frank only took care of the first class rate portion.
    Registry and return receipt would have been charged as fees in addition, and not free.
    Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-17-07 at 19:23:18 PDT   Listings
    Matt in OH or anyone familiar with rates/usages… I’m trying to figure out why this cover is franked only with 4¢, which would pay for the Return Receipt but not the registration fee. I’ve read the “Penalty Mail” section of Beecher/Wawrukiewicz and I can’t quite make heads or tails of it, at least to the extent which would explain how a gov’t agency would have free registration privileges but return receipt was not free.

    Jim
    Posted by djs127   ( 594 ) on Jul-17-07 at 18:44:15 PDT   Listings
    Ebay changed the search display so now I can't seem to get a listings of collections which close in 24 hours. Anyone know how to get such a list now? It shows me all the featured items even if I short by finishing soonest?
    David Snyder
    Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-17-07 at 18:22:12 PDT   Listings
    Roger… How’d you get a 91? I only got a 78!!!!!!!



    Jim
    Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-17-07 at 18:20:47 PDT   Listings
    NOIP… I wonder what they pay for riff-raff??

    Jim
    Posted by paperhistory   ( 1989 ) on Jul-17-07 at 17:30:41 PDT   Listings
    Jeff: I think that's a stamp dealer cover where I wouldn't discount much. Proper rate, in period. It's not really a "philatelic" usage.
    Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1448 ) on Jul-17-07 at 14:55:03 PDT   Listings
    Jaywild: Your "Cool" test LOL! I was considered a nerd because I collected stamps.

    I had a couple of lots pulled that that were deemed not to have adequate margin's but I have seen hundred's of similar lots listed since then, and they were not pulled. Looks kinda random or whatever.Ted.
    Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-17-07 at 14:54:51 PDT   Listings
    Hmmmmmmmmmm

    I need a different strategy (or a lot more money).
    Posted by knuden   ( 2298 ) on Jul-17-07 at 14:42:51 PDT   Listings
    purpleandgold23 - I'm afraid you woun't find this type of cards easely in a dealers bargain box, as it's a very scarce private Postal printed matter (Postal stationary with imprinted stamp). No wonder it went so high. :O)

    K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


    Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-17-07 at 14:37:29 PDT   Listings

    I was never cool in high school.

    And it got worse.

    bubba-cracker

    Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-17-07 at 14:32:04 PDT   Listings
    jaywild -
    Hey, I took the test and I'm still cool. The questions brought back a lot of memories - music, sports heroes, etc. My score was 91.

    Roger
    Posted by mini*lindy   ( 419 ) on Jul-17-07 at 14:06:32 PDT   Listings
    Well, cool gals like me don't need to do tests!

    theresaq if they are 'solid' stamps set into the card (thickness of a coin), then they are probably gold plated silver, and have a minor value as precious metals. However, if they are gold embossed onto the card, they are made of 22k gold leaf, something every scrapbooking Mom buys these days to embellish her albums, and have no metal value at all. Philatelically, they are more a novelty than an item for a stamp collector.

    alexis Lots of information if you scroll back to read the links in the Big Yellow Box, posted here daily, or just ask a question.

    Linda
    Posted by purpleandgold23   ( 110 ) on Jul-17-07 at 13:57:09 PDT   Listings
    Have just noticed that a 1951 Irish stamped-to-order commercial postcard which started at 5 US dollars has just sold for over 787 US dollars (item 320136290395).

    Almost the sort of item you could overlook in a dealer's bargain box.

    Regards to all

    Dermot
    Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-17-07 at 13:29:47 PDT   Listings
    NOIP… Here’s an amusing test to spend a tiny fragment of your day on. It will tell you if you’re still as “cool” as you were in high school.



    Ted... The impression I get of the eBay/APS/SCW experiment is that it occupies less and less of anyone’s attention as time goes on. While it was a good idea at the start, it has always had major flaws, one of which is the system’s inability to judge any item that is not US oriented. Also, there’s a mystery as to why some sellers’ stuff never gets pulled, even when multiple parties complain directly about glaring inaccuracies.

    Jim
    Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-17-07 at 11:43:27 PDT   Listings
    alexis*414

    Don't be shy, fire away.

    theresaq917

    Probably less than the gold cost, it takes energy to retrieve it. But you might get lucky.
    Posted by theresaq917   ( 21 ) on Jul-17-07 at 10:58:37 PDT   Listings
    I have a collection of 22 karet gold stamps that are displayed as follows. They are on a post card size card. The gold stamp is on the left side the real stamp is on the right side and there is a history of the stamp. Are they worth anything more than the cost of gold?
    Posted by alexis*414   ( 0 )   on Jul-17-07 at 10:56:28 PDT   Listings
    Hi everyone, I am new here, I have some questions regarding a stamp collection I inheritated
    Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-17-07 at 10:55:43 PDT   Listings

    FWIW - I emailed a friend in Canada who is a Trinidad collector and asked him to view the image of yesterday's discussion. He replied with the following :

    A quick look at the 5 shilling Trinidad
    without seeing the actual item

    The cancel is correctly used in period
    Postmark is listed by Addiss Ramkisson Walton as type IIIa in use from Nov
    1907

    It is also Proud type D2 in use from Oct 31 1907
    (Brasso post office was originally a sub office at the train station so maybe they were also the local government office)

    The stamp appears to be Scott 101
    This said the probable use was as a revenue and it would have been applied to a receipt of some sort and tied by the pen cancel.

    It is possible the cds is genuine as the post office sold the stamp as a revenue and precancelled it. I do not know if this was a normal practice in Trinidad as I do not study the revenue use.

    I consider it a revenue use and as such has a $ 5.00 value rather that the $20-50.00 if genuine postal use

    find one on cover paying postage and you really have something Postal use of the high values is very rare
    I only have one real postal use of the high values it is either Trinidad or Trinidad & Tobago and is two of the high values from a money paquet sentfrom Trinidad to Canada - a piece only and darn I cannot put my fingers on it.

    Bubba-jeff

    Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-17-07 at 10:23:08 PDT   Listings

    lluehhb - perhaps, I threw in a bid to reduce the chance of him pulling it if someone contacted him. I too usually watch in MY EBAY and just post a snipe in e-snipe (which I did on this one too)

    Matt I think $20 - 30 is a fair price for a precancel on a stamp dealer cover, I have a couple properly tied and you are correct about $50 or more for that. I think there is one in a seller's store for $150 or so.

    I once sold a philatelic creation of the 7c prexie on the first day of the 7-cent airmail rate, it brought $150 much to my surprise.Jeff-bub

    Posted by paperhistory   ( 1989 ) on Jul-17-07 at 09:45:21 PDT   Listings
    That 7 cent prexy at under $20 still went cheap in my view. I don't think I've ever sold a solo 7 cent prexy for under $50.

    Posted by lluehhhb   ( 283 ) on Jul-17-07 at 09:32:20 PDT   Listings
    Jeff,

    About the prexie cover, I think your early $1 bid could have attracted (undesirable) attention to the auction. In my searches I always check auctions with bids, even if the title isn't promising, to check if I missed something.

    Did you put the $1 bid to "bookmark" the auction? I use the watch service in "my ebay" plus a sniping service and works great for me.
    Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-17-07 at 08:36:06 PDT   Listings
    Thanks K-E for the extra info.

    It's a pretty place where a large waterfall comes off the cliffs on the left of the image.

    And, of course, the site of the oldest parliament in the world.
    Posted by knuden   ( 2298 ) on Jul-17-07 at 08:03:01 PDT   Listings
    Iomoon - Re: Sc. #256.
    Additional informations - Issued 9th October 1949. Designer: Stefan (with a ' on top of a) Jonsson (with a ' on top of first o). Design: Allmannagja (with a ' on top of a) gorge at Thingvellir. Engraving and printing: Thomas de la Rue & Co. Ltd. England. 50 stamps per sheet. :O)

    K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


    Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1448 ) on Jul-17-07 at 07:43:56 PDT   Listings
    Jaywild: Thanks for the scans of the 5c Jeff's. I have saved them to my Favorites. Good to know that both the Brick Red and the Indian Red have cert's ,so we know that, several expert's have looked at them.

    As far as APS pulling lots: I have noticed that, for a while, there was a noticeable decrease in obviously fraudulent material in e-bay US category.Seems like last few month's the nasty stuff is starting to show up more often or am I wrong? Ted.
    Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-17-07 at 07:39:01 PDT   Listings
    Thanks Jeff-Raff.

    That's what I thought it was.

    Somewhere along this road.
    Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-17-07 at 07:21:31 PDT   Listings

    this lot unfortunately for me seems to confirm Jay-Jim's remarks about difficulty in scoring on misdescribed lots.

    Rip-RapThingviller Road

    Jeff-Raff

    Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-17-07 at 06:23:28 PDT   Listings
    Good day all.

    Cheaper variant:

    Shine your buttons with Brasso, it only costs ha'pence a tin,

    You can buy it or nick it from Woolworth's, but I doubt if they've got any in.


    Can someone let me know the catalog description of Iceland Scott # 256.
    For those lacking Scott, it is the 1949 UPU 2 Krona crimson.
    Posted by bradstonian   ( 1284 ) on Jul-17-07 at 04:08:10 PDT   Listings
    Looks like I retain the ability to kill the board stone dead for several hours with a single post!
    Posted by malolo   ( 847 ) on Jul-17-07 at 02:17:07 PDT   Listings
    Aloha -
    NOIP. Trying to compare shades on a scan is not possible. APS probably can identify the stamp using its cheap program. Go to the APS website. If the stamp is really valuable ,the certificate will be worth the investment, if the shade is wrong, then there will be no buyer/seller problems later and the seller will know the true shadow according to an expertizing committee.

    That my 2 centimes worth.
    Rained most of the day here which is quiet unusual. The rgular pattern is for clear blue sky in da morning, followed by cloud buildup, then rain late afternoon and evening.

    Roger
    Posted by bradstonian   ( 1284 ) on Jul-16-07 at 21:42:07 PDT   Listings
    Shine your buttons with Brasso, it's only three ha'pence a tin,

    You can buy it or nick it at Woolworth's, it's always full up to the brim.

    etc.
    Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-16-07 at 21:32:32 PDT   Listings
    Colors of the 5 cent Jefferson stamps… Here’s some examples of colors of the 5c Jefferson browns. The brick red and Indian red both have certs, and I am 100% confident that the Scott 30 orange brown is genuine.

    Of course as has been said, the colors a viewer will see depends on the monitor and even the computer.

    Jim
    Posted by mini*lindy   ( 419 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:47:36 PDT   Listings
    hahaha JayJim now that I'm officially 'retired' have no catalogues in the house, oh yes, a 2003 SG Pt.1 British Commonwealth and a 1995 Australian Comprehensive Catalogue that my son was the production manager for!!-- hardly a philatelic Catalog Queen!!!!!
    Sorry, but I will still try to answer any questions here to the best of my ability.:o)

    Lindy
    mini*raff
    Posted by dbenson   ( 8390 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:44:13 PDT   Listings
    tllawrence, it is not only the scanners that can show a misleading shade it is the monitors as well,

    David B.
    Posted by peterc8888   ( 330 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:41:45 PDT   Listings
    What does APS use to determine the shade of a stamp? I also use www.theswedishtiger.com for reference purpose but I really doubt that those images can be used for distinguishing shades. Also some images have more than one color listed below them.
    Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:41:21 PDT   Listings
    Let’s see… Who can we name our official Catalog Queen? Maybe Lindy might like to give it a whirl…

    Jim
    Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:38:52 PDT   Listings
    georgetownlaw… The APS is a loose cannon when it comes to pulling eBay lots. They will hound some sellers for the slightest irregularities, while others sail through selling the most laughably fraudulent stuff. In my view the SCW is almost as bad as the disease it was meant to cure.

    Jim
    Posted by iomoon   ( 1054 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:36:50 PDT   Listings
    Ted

    It depends on the camera.
    Mark does a pretty good job with his, but he's an exception.

    Likewise there is no use having either a good camera or scanner and then go and use those pitiful ipix images.

    I like Jeff as jeff-raff

    I'll be rip-rap.
    Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1373 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:30:25 PDT   Listings
    member
    Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1448 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:21:43 PDT   Listings
    dbenson: You are correct about Scanners.They do vary, and seems it like quite a few sellers, are not very good at it. I really hate it when sellers use a digital camera to photo. a single stamp or page.

    I do use my camera to photo. large or bulky lots that I can not easily put on my scanner.
    Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1448 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:15:46 PDT   Listings
    Georgetown: You may wish to take a quick look at: www.theswedishtiger.com

    I have been using that site lately. Ted.
    Posted by dbenson   ( 8390 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:13:44 PDT   Listings
    Georgetown,

    How close is the actual shade of the stamp to the scan and how would anyone know what the scan looks like on the monitor that they are using.

    David B.
    Posted by georgetownlaw   ( 11558 ) on Jul-16-07 at 20:04:02 PDT   Listings
    Ted: Thanks for the very kind words and I hope that they are deserved. antonius-ra and jaywild: I really appreciate your honest opinions and those opinions of folks who e-mailed me. I guess that I will pull the lot but darnit, I place it next to the 67a plate in White's encyclopedia of colors and it could not be a better match! Of course eyesight is pretty subjective I think that the APS is seriously overreaching here and shows little consistency in its regulation of allegedly violative lots. End of my rant. I was looking at the comments on the board and see that there are some extremely well-versed philatelists here.
    Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1448 ) on Jul-16-07 at 19:58:18 PDT   Listings
    Jaywild: I think that you may be right on the Brown.But I do believe that it is either, Brown or Dark Brown,not light Brown or Black Brown.

    The issue that drives me daffy is the 1857 5c Jefferson. #29 Brown is pretty easy, but the Brick Red, Indian Red, and Red Brown are harder. Not as frustrating though as, looking up shades in Michel, when one does not read German! Ted.
    Posted by jaywild   ( 959 ) on Jul-16-07 at 19:27:09 PDT   Listings
    georgetownlaw… I think your 76 looks brown, to me at least. Here’s mine, which I believe to be brown, not dark brown. But again, it’s just my 2¢!

    Jim
    Posted by antonius-ra   ( 639 ) on Jul-16-07 at 17:59:20 PDT   Listings
    Then again, perhaps Ted is correct. I bought my 76a as one but it does not have a cert.
    Posted by antonius-ra   ( 639 ) on Jul-16-07 at 17:50:00 PDT   Listings
    Georgetownlaw It looks right to me. The Brown (76)color is much lighter than yours. I have both and your matches my 76a as well. Even though the Black Brown (76a) is noticable lighter than the 76 it still much lighter than say a 209B Black Brown. I can see why some people may doubt it.
    Posted by tlawrencestamps   ( 1448 ) on Jul-16-07 at 17:45:31 PDT   Listings
    Georgetownlaw: If it were my stamp, I would have listed it as, #76 Dark Brown. The black brown looks a little blacker!

    Just my opinion though. Another opinion is: I believe that you are one of the most trustworthy sellers on e-Bay Stamps. Ted Lawrence.
    Posted by mini*lindy   ( 419 ) on Jul-16-07 at 17:44:54 PDT   Listings
    mal5555 that stamp imperf between is a great rarity. Imperf between means that the perforating machine malfunctioned and there are NO PERFORATIONS in that row. It does not mean that 2 stamps have not been pulled apart. If you look in the front of your catalogue, there are pages of notes, explanations and descriptions. Always best to read them first.
    If you have any other questions just ask here, or check out the links in the big yellow box posted here every day, or post a link to a scan of the stamp in question (please not a direct picture, just a link).

    good luck with your sorting and I hope you get to enjoy a really interesting hobby.
    Linda
    Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jul-16-07 at 17:06:44 PDT   Listings
    ED845-----Fortunately I got a friend like you to cover for me ...thanks .Paul
    Posted by mal5555   ( 8 ) on Jul-16-07 at 16:38:53 PDT   Listings
    I am new to stamp collecting. I was given several stamp books a few years ago and didnt start looking at them till now. I am confused about value. In the books for example 1470 Tom Sawyer by Norman Rockwell states that a horizontal pair imperf. between is 4,500.00. Is the imperf. between an error because they were made with perf. or are they just saying that they have never been seperated from each other. And if so then is a block of 4 something different. Thanks
    Posted by georgetownlaw   ( 11558 ) on Jul-16-07 at 16:16:34 PDT   Listings
    Hi folks: I have a gripe and called a stamp friend to complain and he suggested this forum. I listed a stamp on ebay as #76a black brown. It is lot #270145254394. I compared the stamp to the literature and it is dead-on perfect match of color. You can see the question that I posted to the lot. Let me know if I am wrong. If I get some feedback that it is not #76a I will gladly pull the listing immediately. I am not sure what I can do though because APS will pull the lot which I think is described right? Am I wrong and thanks for your helpful feedback !
    Posted by dbenson   ( 8390 ) on Jul-16-07 at 16:04:47 PDT   Listings
    Truth & Accuracy,

    Brasso Post Office opened in 1899,

    David B.
    Posted by antonius-ra   ( 639 ) on Jul-16-07 at 15:29:57 PDT   Listings
    "Truth and accuracy division"? WOW
    Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jul-16-07 at 15:28:28 PDT   Listings
    ED 845 -----Looks like your right, there was a estate on the island but did they have their own post office? There is a city Bonasse in Trindad ,try a search .
    Posted by ed845   ( 4514 ) on Jul-16-07 at 15:16:14 PDT   Listings
    stamps12345 Why would you say Bonasse instead of Brasso.

    Obviously you never checked to see if there were such a place. Unfortunately for you there was/ is.

    Check out #290138881968


    Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jul-16-07 at 15:14:30 PDT   Listings
    also its a very clear cancel for the time period and the statement the pen cancel was washed doesn't fit .....truth and accurcy committee {Paul} of the e-bay chat room .
    Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Jul-16-07 at 15:09:42 PDT   Listings
    POSTALHYSTERIA -----It would help if the forger of the postal cancel got the name right for the city in Trindad right its Bonasse not Brasso. ....paul
    Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-16-07 at 14:05:45 PDT   Listings

    bwi & DB - thanks for the clarification.

    Jeff-raff

    Posted by bwiphilately   ( 356 ) on Jul-16-07 at 13:13:00 PDT   Listings
    Postal - I concur with D2 that the Trinidad cancel is fake. The cancel is not as crisp, and some of the letters have a different shape, than the genuine cancel.
    Posted by dbenson   ( 8390 ) on Jul-16-07 at 12:10:56 PDT   Listings
    postal,

    I am 99% sure the cancel is fake but there is always a possibility that it is a genuine cancel backdated.

    David B.
    Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-16-07 at 08:28:36 PDT   Listings

    peterc8888 - my copy of Simpson Postal Markings 1851 - 1861 lists this cancel from Detroit, gives it a rarity of 3 (out of 10, so fairly common)

    postalriff-raff

    Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3728 ) on Jul-16-07 at 08:20:11 PDT   Listings

    david B. - as with most things philatelic I am ignorant or Trinidad postmarks. It is obvious even to me that a "postmark" resembling a postal cds has been applied to a stamp whose fiscal pen cancel has been washed.

    But when you say the cds is completely fake," are you saying the device that applied the "postmark" was fabricated, and not a strike from a real postmark subsequently applied?

    postalriff-raff

    Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1373 ) on Jul-16-07 at 04:48:29 PDT   Listings
    Greetings
    and an Indiana "Good Morning"
    to you all


    Jim L.


    member
    Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on Jul-16-07 at 03:41:04 PDT   Listings
    dbenson thank you for the input. That was the only explanation I could think of as well; hoping for my friend's sake there was another explanation.

    Bill