eBay chatboard archive: May-21-07 to May-27-07 week

Posted by cfrphoto   ( 1109 ) on May-27-07 at 23:15:08 PDT   Listings
Jim,

The order of sorting Washington/Franklins is a personal choice, but I would suggest sorting based on design, appearance (printing method and shade), then type, perforations and watermark last of all. Production changes in the Washington/Franklin series were driven by an increase in the demand for stamps coupled with severe quality control problems. Initially, imperforate and hand assembled coil stamps were produced to meet the emerging use of affixing machines by businesses. The rotary press made high volume production of coils stamps possible as businesses increasingly used the machines for mass mailings. Offset stamps were printed to fill gaps in stamp production related to World I shortages. The various types of rotary and offset printings were directly related to difficulties printing acceptable looking stamps using unmodified flat plate dies.

The general appearance of Washington/Franklin stamps is often distinctive enough to be able to group them, especially with experience. Using a divide and conquer technique, once the stamps are grouped into sheet stamps, coils and imperforate, then they can be grouped by design, printing method, perforations and finally watermark:
• Separate the stamps by design and denomination
• For 1, 2 and 3 cent stamps, pick out the tall rotary sheet stamps (1 cent only) , the wide coil waste stamps (1 and 2 cent) and the offset stamps. The rotary press stamps have a distinctive appearance and can be distinguished from flat plate stamps using a horizontal coil or rotary sheet stamp as a size gauge. Note that booklet pane singles are a bit wider and perhaps a bit shorter than a standard sheet stamp, but not as wide as a rotary. The 2 cent is easier because coil waste stamps are type III (or rarely type II). The offset stamps have distinctive shades and appearance, generally with more unprinted area, especially a white ring inside the toga button.
• One-off checks include checking bluish paper for one and two cent stamps (the others are truly rare), perf 11 two cent stamps (rarer yet) and the perf 11 single line watermarked #461 (distinctive red shade, often found in with perf 10 stamps). Also, the 1 cent offset is perf 11 or 12½.
• Check 2 cent perf 11 stamps (and the unwatermarked imperf Schermack) for the distinctive and heavily inked toga button of a type Ia. Do not confuse with the strong toga button outline of any 2 cent offset.
• For 1, 2 and 3 cent stamps, pick out the wide rotary perf 11 x 10 or perf 11 sheet stamps (2 cent are type III or type II and the 3 cent is type II only). All 1912 flat plate 2 cent stamps are type I except for the type Ia #500.

Separate coil stamps by appearance: Flat plate coils have more saturated color, printing offset on the back and practically no ink wash or joint line smears. Rotary coils are wider or taller and always have perforations aligned between rows. Many used flat plate coils are faked by trimming a sheet stamp and most perf 12 coils are faked by trimming or adding perforations to an imperf stamp. A significant percentage of unused 1 and 2 cent perf 8½ and perf 10 coils are also fakes.

Almost all of the coils will also have to be checked for a watermark to determine their identity. The best on-line reference for types is the 1847usa.com Washington Franklins Worksheet Main Page. It has practically all of the type differences in a convenient and useful format. I recommend a 15 power glass for typing, but 10 power may be sufficient.

Regarding rarity, used #519 examples are extremely rare (I have never found one) as are not previously noticed carmine 5 cent #505 or #467 used. There should be more used #461 examples floating around, but they are rare (I have found one and perhaps a second). The easiest stamps to find are the coil waste #538 and #540 and sometimes a #595 (rare). The type II #539 is exceedingly rare, but may exist in a mix somewhere. Finding #500 is the easiest to find once your eyes are trained to spot them. I have picked out more than 80 from mix and maybe 10 #540 since I started looking years ago. The most recent one was during a Law and Order commercial break about a week ago.

Finally, the true rarities deserving mention are the compound perforated 10 x 12 and 12 x 10 1, 2 and 5 cent stamps and the perf 10 top or bottom varieties. I haven’t found any, but years ago, I found the used discovery copy of the #459 (2 cent imperf rotary coil) with United States Automatic Vending Machine private perforations.

Good luck in your search.
Posted by private_bids   ( 25 )   on May-27-07 at 23:13:08 PDT   Listings
HI, Does anyone know how to identify a real or fake China Stamp T46 Monkey ?
Please enlighten

Thanks in Advance
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-27-07 at 22:10:37 PDT   Listings
NOIP… With all the celebrations today in honor of US Memorial Day, I became curious to see how many World War I veterans are still around. I came across this interesting list. Apparently there are only 28 living WWI veterans, most of whom did not actually serve at the various fronts.

Ant-Ra... I agree that sorting them by perfs is the easiest way to go. If you look at the table at the bottom of my Wash-Franks identifier you can find the catalog number a variety of different ways. That’s how I was reminded there was a double-line watermarked perf 11 Washington stamp. I never would have remembered that off the top of my head.

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-27-07 at 22:03:30 PDT   Listings
Jim The 519 is also a type A139 not A140 which narrows that field quite a bit.
Posted by minncowgirl   ( 66 ) on May-27-07 at 21:46:03 PDT   Listings
After weeks of frustrating searching, I finally found a USPS Stamp decoder only to find that I couldn't see any of the hidden images. I followed the directions that accompanied the decoder but nothing. Can anyone give me a clue as to how to use it? Does it work?
Thank you, in advance, for any help anyone can give me.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-27-07 at 21:35:33 PDT   Listings
Jim OK, you're correct. What do you think the odds of finding one in a mixed batch is? Methinks, perhaps 200,000 to one. Probably 40,000 to 1 on the 461.
You've probably thought about the procedure more than I but sorting by perf first still makes the most amount of sense to me.
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-27-07 at 20:22:20 PDT   Listings
Ant-Ra… The 519 2 cent Washington was perf 11 with double-line watermark.

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-27-07 at 20:07:51 PDT   Listings
Jim L Except for #461 all perf 11's are unwatermarked as far as I recall. This really narrows the field as the majority of W/F's in a large batch are perf 11.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-27-07 at 19:58:57 PDT   Listings
Jim L When I sort W/F's, I turn them all face down and sort by perfs first. It is really quite easy as a first step.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1342 ) on May-27-07 at 19:46:22 PDT   Listings
Greetings,

So, from the 3 cent W/F page I take it you suggest that one first check the watermarks, then the perfs and lastly the press. If this is not the process you'd suggest for about 25 pounds of stamps off paper please advise.

member
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-27-07 at 18:53:08 PDT   Listings
On the topic of catalog price versus real world value; I would gladly pay full catalog value for any stamp I need that catalogs less than a dollar. The point is that someone has to dig it out and deal with it. Looking thru needlists for collections that are pretty tight can
seem like a waste of time (unless they have deep pockets). I thank the stamp Gods that there are a few good samaritans that do just that, from time to time.
As far as the higher value items are concerned they are not that hard to find, it is more a matter of $. Collecting the world does give one the advantage of collecting countries that are cold at any given time. I've built most of my collection in the 20% of cat range. The problem is the tougher stamps often command a bigger percentage especially when hot!

The World of Stamps
Posted by de66   ( 1082 ) on May-27-07 at 18:45:52 PDT   Listings
Thanks Willder

D1
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-27-07 at 17:43:01 PDT   Listings
I'll jump in and propose an eUSC 'get together' for the APS StampShow in Portland on either Friday or Saturday at lunch time. I don't believe the various seminars and such have had their schedules announced yet though, so it might be early to set a schedule... I believe the only time set so far is the awards banquet on Saturday night, though I imagine the auctions will probably be Friday and Saturday afternoons. I'll most likely be there each day from Tuesday (frame preparation) through Sunday (exhibit take down) and will be attending the awards banquet.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 365 ) on May-27-07 at 15:23:19 PDT   Listings
Thanks phila-Dave for the photos, nice to put faces to names.
I have met all of the aussies who post here at some time or another, but all before I started posting here.

In 2004 I actually travelled to USA for a month, and had a meeting with chatters I had met on another ebay board. There were about 30 of us, and we took an all day vintage train trip in the mountains of W.Maryland, and then stayed 3 days on a farm in Pa. as guests of one of the chatters. I also met up with ebayers in San Francisco and NYCity. That was a great vacation, my eBay Holiday!

Nice graduation pics io Jim it must be a very rewarding job you do!

Linda
Posted by keleofa   ( 3450 ) on May-27-07 at 14:48:10 PDT   Listings
Jim (Jaywild),

I have a 5¢ solo Prexie (airmail use) I'm going to list Sunday evening. Postmarked Oct 3, 1946 -- new airmail rate went into effect Oct 1. Sorry not an Oct 5th!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-27-07 at 14:42:02 PDT   Listings
Matt in AZ… Also, that postcard was sent five days before the airmail postcard rate changed to 6¢.

Jim
Posted by keleofa   ( 3450 ) on May-27-07 at 14:35:39 PDT   Listings
Jim (Jaywild),

Glad you like the solo Liberty. I liked the shot of Times Square in 1955!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by dove3ducks   ( 469 ) on May-27-07 at 14:29:13 PDT   Listings
Afternoon Folks......Always wondered about that.
Posted by peetah   ( 483 ) on May-27-07 at 13:54:55 PDT   Listings
oops, towards the "let" = left
Posted by peetah   ( 483 ) on May-27-07 at 13:52:46 PDT   Listings
I am under the impression, that while viewing the Newfoundland stamp from the back, the normal direction for the top of the shield to be facing is towards the let. The stamp I have, has the top of the shield at the TOP of the stamp!
Posted by willderspin   ( 663 ) on May-27-07 at 13:52:26 PDT   Listings
DE66

Same thing happened to me with a 2c Canadian Large Queen forgery, just two days ago. They must be toughening up on this. I wrote the word Forgery on the reverse and showed the reverse with this addition. It is now listed in its new form, I had ebay look at it and they said it was fine. Hope this helps.
Posted by peetah   ( 483 ) on May-27-07 at 13:47:41 PDT   Listings
Newfoundland Looking at the back of Unitrade/Scott #193 (SG #215) the 10 cent Atlantic Salmon, what is the normal direction for the top of the shield watermark to be facing? (SG Watermark #106 Scott Watermark # 224)
Posted by de66   ( 1082 ) on May-27-07 at 13:18:54 PDT   Listings
Woke up to yhis from eBay:

Dear de66,

You recently listed the following auction-style listing:

280119217811 - New Zealand imperf forgeries Nice Fillers


The auction-style listing was removed because it violated the eBay Counterfeit Currency and Stamps policy. All fees related to this listing have been credited to your account. We also notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled.



How can i relist them without getting them pulled off eBay?

D1
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-27-07 at 12:30:45 PDT   Listings
Matt in AZ… I got the lovely 5c Monroe solo usage card Saturday, and it’s a beauty. Thanks!

Jim
Posted by willderspin   ( 663 ) on May-27-07 at 11:23:28 PDT   Listings
Oh and the rotary you mentioned, had a PSE cert so I took it as being genuine, I will have a second look
Posted by willderspin   ( 663 ) on May-27-07 at 11:21:52 PDT   Listings
StJohnStamps

Thanks so much, I had the program referring to the incorrect Scotts #, changed to the correct numbers. If you spot anything else please let me know.
Posted by stjohnstamps   ( 852 ) on May-27-07 at 11:12:12 PDT   Listings
in fact the OFFSET even looks like a rotary coil, reperfed at the top and bottom
Posted by stjohnstamps   ( 852 ) on May-27-07 at 11:10:18 PDT   Listings
nice scans on the 3-cent Washinton page however, some misleading info...
(a) scan showing OFFSET is actually 11x10 ROTARY
(b) scan showing BLUE PAPER is perf-10, not blue paper.
otherwise - great!
Posted by willderspin   ( 663 ) on May-27-07 at 10:50:18 PDT   Listings
I am going to the Portland APS, it would be great to meet others from the board here, for meal, drinks, conversation etc. Anyone want to propose a rendezvous?
Posted by willderspin   ( 663 ) on May-27-07 at 10:47:06 PDT   Listings
<body>
Here you go, the 3c Washington The guide is really meant for novices, so pardon the fact that it sometimes gets a bit elementary in its approach
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-27-07 at 10:30:52 PDT   Listings
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Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1341 ) on May-27-07 at 09:53:50 PDT   Listings
willderspin
Have you worked up a page for the W-F's 3 centers? I’ve a bag that almost fills a box the size of a paper case to sort. I’ll take suggestions from anyone. :8^ )
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-27-07 at 09:48:03 PDT   Listings
Alec

The guy on the right graduated before the guy on the left was born!!
Posted by infla-alec   ( 534 ) on May-27-07 at 08:49:49 PDT   Listings
IO/Jim Isn't the guy on the right a little old to be graduating ? :-) Which 1890 set and country are you looking for ? I can keep my eyes ope just in case they ever appear. You'd be surprised where I go looking for material. But we won't go into that here :-)

Meeting other board posters I don't think I have ever had the pleasure of meeting anyone in person from this board. Hard I know as so many of us are in different countries etc. However if at all possible I would encourage anyone to try and meet up with others here whenever the chance arises. Many if not most of the guys on the ebay.de board meet up in person several times a year and it really is great to actually get to talk stamps with fellow collectors and sometimes to even see their collections.
I think it's always nicer to be able to put a face and voice to the text you read on the boards.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-27-07 at 08:26:20 PDT   Listings
As promised, some graduation photos from last weekend.

photo 1

photo 2
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-27-07 at 07:37:59 PDT   Listings
220man…I have a Wash-Frank identifier on my page which might also be helpful.

Dave F… Thanks for the pictures! And yes, folks, the weather was lovely, so we ate outside.

I had a very enjoyable time with Dave, Sheryll and Steve. We were together for at least three hours, and the conversation ranged over a very wide variety of issues. Anyone ears burning here, hmmm?

?

Anyway, a very good time was had by all.

Right now I’m listening to classic Stanley Brothers—Little Benny

Ah, the good life…

Jim
Posted by willderspin   ( 663 ) on May-27-07 at 07:29:47 PDT   Listings
As you state that you doing the 2c W-F's as well, here is the 2c page, as you can see, a little bigger, definitely for masochists
Posted by 220man   ( 151 ) on May-27-07 at 07:25:29 PDT   Listings
willderspin: Thanks, I've saved that page. It's a difficult series to handle and it helps to know the best way to separate the big pile into little ones.
Phil
Posted by willderspin   ( 663 ) on May-27-07 at 07:14:44 PDT   Listings

220 Man


I am putting together an ID helper for all the W-F's, this is the 1c, it gives you an idea of the way I recommend sorting them. I have nearly finished the guide so will add it to the main website soon

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-27-07 at 07:12:36 PDT   Listings
JimI guess eBay are waiting for evidence as to whether the account was hacked or not, maybe laptop was really stolen..........better innocent until proven guilty in this case.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-27-07 at 07:09:26 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

Just back from College Park.
Wanted to stop by Bellefonte but ran out of time.

Alec

Yep, compiling your own catalog really highlights those "common" stamps which rarely appear of eBay (if at all). One particular set of stamps from the 1890's I have never seen and they are also not in Mitchell's nor Billsey's collections.

Colin

Talk about killing the goose that laid the golden eggs!!

Juana

Nice to see you posting again.

Dave

Great pictures.

Peter

It's taking eBay rather a long time to institute the NARU.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-27-07 at 07:02:05 PDT   Listings
Willderspin I guess that means the new star rating only applies to those buyers that actually filled it in, in which case it is a compplete waste of time. In the case of the neg buyers I guess one neg said it all, or perhaps if you are going to leave a neg you don't get the option for the ratings?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-27-07 at 06:59:25 PDT   Listings
A late A from the American Asiatic Company. I assume B is now the theme of the week and I would like to show this mini sheet? one from Brighton Congress if anyone can fill in some background and how collectable it is I would be grateful.


Peter


Posted by 220man   ( 151 ) on May-27-07 at 06:55:26 PDT   Listings
Sorting Wash-Franklins Got a pile of 1 and 2-centers to sort. Anyone have a favorite method - sort by perfs first, WM's second?
Phil
Posted by willderspin   ( 663 ) on May-27-07 at 06:43:40 PDT   Listings
I notice on dodgy seller Sonic's detailed seller ratings he gets 4 1/2 stars out of five on everything. What does this say about ebay's new detailed feedback system?
Posted by infla-alec   ( 534 ) on May-27-07 at 03:46:22 PDT   Listings
Juana The Linder product you refer to is expensive and not one I have ever used myself. However I am led to believe it is good for removing what is more commonly known as fox stains from stamps and covers. However I would not think such a thing is any good at removing such stains from mint stamps without also removing the gum.
Sometime ago and I forget where I heard it if you know what chemicals the product is made of you can do exactly the same thing with a home made concoction. But for the life of me I don't know what the chemicals are or in what proportion you make the mixture.
Needless to say don't try anything on any expensive stamp before you know what you are doing. If you do go ahead and buy the product I'm almost certain there will be instructions, but even so to begin with experiment on a cheap stamp first and see what results you get.

If anyone here does happen to know how best to remove fox stains then please do tell all.

Jaywild/ Jim I liked the joke and got it straight away. But it does seem as if many of these self adhesive gummed stamps are damn difficult to soak off. I'm refering to S/A's worldwide.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1341 ) on May-27-07 at 03:45:05 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"

to you all


Jim L.

member
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-26-07 at 23:44:35 PDT   Listings
No problem using FrontPage for creating a message here Dave, you just have to remember to remove all line breaks before pasting. Most editors are kind enough to put those in to help make things readable, but here they're converted to <br>, which tends to give you many more lines in the final message than you intended. :-(
Posted by philatarium   ( 232 ) on May-26-07 at 22:41:31 PDT   Listings
Sorry. eBay apparently objects to using FrontPage or any kind of html helper. Grrrr ...
Posted by philatarium   ( 232 ) on May-26-07 at 22:40:32 PDT   Listings

re: impromptu EUSC SoCal mtg 5/25/07 mentioned yesterday



picture
of Jim (jaywild), Sheryll & Steve



picture
of Jim, Sheryll & me


I do want to underscore how great it was to get together with these wonderful
people!


I suspect that if more of us could get together in person whenever the
opportunity presents itself, we might all be less quick to offer sharp words
here or on any board.  So I'm all for trying to get as many of us together
at APS Portland as possible!


I must admit, it was a bit surreal at first to be talking with people who had
never met each other, yet knew quite a bit about each other and shared a common
history together.  (For those of you who've been here for a while, you know
...)  Then it was the icing on the cake to actually talk about stamps! 
I don't usually do this except online or at stamp shows, so it was a special
treat.


And Jim was a great host!  Thanks very much, Jim!


Maybe some of us who are local to the greater LA area should try to get
together at Sescal this fall?


-- Dave


Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-26-07 at 21:07:20 PDT   Listings
Juana… I was making a joke. All you need to dissolve the average stamp gum is water, and not the kind you spend $23 a bottle on.

?

Jim
Posted by keleofa   ( 3450 ) on May-26-07 at 20:16:46 PDT   Listings
David (DJS),

Hopefully all sons will never have better things to do than collect stamps AND hang out with Dad!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by djs127   ( 588 ) on May-26-07 at 20:07:19 PDT   Listings
Matt,
Yes that was a good deal on the used scott binders.
No I don't have a table at NOJEX. I sublet a part of a table one year at NOJEX but did not do well. I go to NOJEX to buy and look at the exhibits. My son has gone with me since he as a baby in a stroller. Hopefully he will never have better things to do than collect stamps.
David Snyder
Posted by keleofa   ( 3450 ) on May-26-07 at 19:49:11 PDT   Listings
David (DJS),

Good deal on those binders!

Have fun at NOJEX. When I lived in NJ (I was born & raised in Essex County) I attended NOJEX every year. Do you have a table? My son attended stamp shows with me until he turned 14 (he'll be 15 in a few weeks). Now he has "better" things to do!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3450 ) on May-26-07 at 19:45:06 PDT   Listings
Sharon,

There are several philatelic literature dealers that sell references for post offices, or you could try:

Jim Forte - Post Offices by State

Matt in Arizona
Posted by djs127   ( 588 ) on May-26-07 at 19:41:25 PDT   Listings
Friday I received this lot I won in the mail 250116462170
Today I already put in Scott pages from 1996-2006 in one binder. Have to organize some of my other US pages for the rest.
Sunday my 13 year old son and I are going to NOJEX show in Secacus New Jersey. See their website: http://www.nojex.org/
for more information.
David Snyder
Posted by gemdiva64   ( 923 ) on May-26-07 at 19:39:49 PDT   Listings
By the way..is there a website that lists discontinued post offices??? How does one get that info?
Sharon
Posted by gemdiva64   ( 923 ) on May-26-07 at 19:32:10 PDT   Listings
Hi again Matt...so the stamp is common but the cancellation is rare?..Cool. I'll just list away and see what comes of it then. I thought the envelope was unusual ( rare) as it is hand decorated by the artist who sent it.Thanks again
Sharon
Posted by keleofa   ( 3450 ) on May-26-07 at 19:24:51 PDT   Listings
Sharon,

The stamp is very common bu Sticklerville, Missouri is a DPO- Discontinued Post Office and a fairly scarce cancel. Too bad the rest of the cover is in poor shape! But I have seen worse covers sell on eBay!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by ibex94   ( 646 ) on May-26-07 at 19:12:34 PDT   Listings
Thanks, Jay.
Posted by gemdiva64   ( 923 ) on May-26-07 at 19:04:50 PDT   Listings
http://usera.imagecave.com/gemdiva93257/1800letterstamp.jpg
Im hoping this one may have some value....tia
Sharon
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-26-07 at 19:02:03 PDT   Listings
Juana… I notice that link you provided also advertises a “stamp gum remover” for $23 a bottle. It’s probably a very complex formulation of di-hydrogen oxide. I use it myself when I want to take gum off stamps. In fact, I use so much of it at home I have it piped in, both hot and cold.

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Jim
Posted by gemdiva64   ( 923 ) on May-26-07 at 18:50:05 PDT   Listings
OH MY...if the bank still exists..maybe I have some real $$ LOL..doubtful as it has to be endorsed by the original owner who is long long long gone.
Sharon
Posted by ibex94   ( 646 ) on May-26-07 at 18:40:45 PDT   Listings
Hi all. Does anyone have any experience using ERNI A and B mildew stain remover on stamps? Here's the link where I found mention of it. http://www.lindner-usa.com/catalog/access/62.html

Does it really work? Since its a lindner product I would expect it to work but any experiences you have with those products would be appreciated. I've got lots of mildewed stamps to deal with.

Thanks in advance, Juana
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 365 ) on May-26-07 at 18:37:12 PDT   Listings
I remember back in the early 1980s there was a Huge interest in Share Certificates, etc. and most of the major Auction houses in England held regular Share / Bond / type auctions, and yes, it was the pretty ones that did particularly well, or unusual companies, seems interest died down pretty fast.
I still have a copy of the 1979 book by SG staff members Colin Narbeth and Robin Hendy about collecting Bonds and Paper money !! - and a few Certificates around the house, framed for interests sake!

Linda
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1978 ) on May-26-07 at 18:12:12 PDT   Listings
I'm speculating somewhat, but national banks would probably be a good collectible subcategory. National banks had the ability to issue their own specially-identified banknotes, and those are extremely collectible. Perhaps some of the same folks who collect those would also collect the stock certificates, which judging from a search of the terms "national bank" +(stock,certificate) are usually substantially cheaper than the banknotes.

I also note that the certificate does NOT appear to be cancelled. If it's not, a quick google search on the bank itself may be a good idea. It probably went bust in the depression, but if the bank still exists, or it has a successor, there's a chance you are a stockholder in it!
Posted by gemdiva64   ( 923 ) on May-26-07 at 18:01:29 PDT   Listings
Thank You Matt in Arizona..I did some further searching and I suppose it does have to be something really rare and unusual to get a bid..
sharon
Posted by keleofa   ( 3450 ) on May-26-07 at 17:34:17 PDT   Listings
Sharon,

Values of old stock certificates are a hit or miss item on eBay. More famous companies, especially mining and railroads seem to do well. Some people are looking for specific companies while others collect certificates for the finely engraved artwork. I do not know anything specific about yours, though.

This is a search of eBay Collectibles for 'Stock Certificates':

http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&satitle=stock+certificates&sacat=1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&fis=2&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=

Hope this helps. Maybe someone more knowledgeable will come along to help!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by gemdiva64   ( 923 ) on May-26-07 at 17:25:12 PDT   Listings
http://usera.imagecave.com/gemdiva93257/stockcerti.jpg
Hi all..the above is a stock certificate for 5 shares of american national bank green city , mo. issued 1-13-25. Valuable? any thing?..or just a piece of worthless paper>? Thanks for any advise..suggestions or condolences..:-)
Sharon
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1341 ) on May-26-07 at 17:22:21 PDT   Listings
member
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-26-07 at 14:21:21 PDT   Listings
Aloha -

I thought I might be sniping vs. Iomoon for this card, Paddington to Zurich 2 November 1898. It will go directly into my exhibit since it is only the second 1898 receiver (of all 11 post offices) I've seen. This canceler was issued on October 24th and returned with all other razor cancelers to deCoppet for repairs on 16 November. So, this was only in use for three weeks in 1898. They weren't returned to the post offices to continue testing until April 1899.

So much for rarity = price! Smiles.

Roger




Posted by xzephyr   ( 981 ) on May-26-07 at 13:26:54 PDT   Listings
IO Jim and other Machin enthusiasts

So it is now 40 years since the Machins first appeared. Guess what Royal Mail is producing to part us from our hard earned cash!

The S/S

A press sheet of 12 S/S!

and a generic sheet.

If you buy one of everything Royal Mail wants to sell you relating to the 40th anniv of the Machin stamps, it will set you back about £250!

Colin the disillusioned.

It just might be worth putting a few of the SS away for a few years.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3627 ) on May-26-07 at 11:42:50 PDT   Listings

jay-jim - and likely all I have to do is pay for shipping and a sight handling charge.

A is for AARDVARK and it is not even Texan.

Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-26-07 at 10:58:49 PDT   Listings
Jeff S… There was a slight mistake in that sweepstakes email to you. What you won was 1,500,000 pounds—of kitty litter. Included is a map where you can go and dig it up.

?

Jim
Posted by 22028   ( 1608 ) on May-26-07 at 10:38:27 PDT   Listings
saphilatelics, thanks, it seems, the vacation there will be "nature" only..., lets see to which city my sister-in-law will move, maybe a neighboring state has something to offer...
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-26-07 at 10:20:00 PDT   Listings
infla-alec Yes. Good points. Just imagine if catalogue editors dared to use eBay stamp sales as a descriptor of market value and NOT the dealer network Scott, for instance, claims to use as "reliable". I wonder what would happen?

After all, aren't most sales conducted here on eBay and not through a local dealer. Stands to reason for there is only one stamp store here and his prices are very high. He doesn't even own a computer and claims eBay is too expensive. I'm quite sure his rent is more than he would ever cough up on this venue.

Regarding catalogue prices. I see them as relative to each other. For example, if the 1c value of a given set is 20c and the $5.00 value is $200.00, that price tells me the $5.00 value MAY be 1,000x more diffucult to obtain in the same condition as the 1c value. There is a relationship that could be used as a guideline regardless of price or catalogue.
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 439 ) on May-26-07 at 10:02:26 PDT   Listings
22028
unfortunately, Utah is, both biogeographically and philatelistically, a desert. There used to be a single stamp dealer in the Cottonwood mall in SLC, he has recently relocated to somewhere in the Sugarhouse area of SLC, I'll be happy to look up his address for you, but I do not highly recommend him unless you are interested in US material or supplies, as he does not carry much of anything else. I mainly used to go there for supplies, as he did not carry much in my area of interest (German States).
Posted by philatarium   ( 232 ) on May-26-07 at 09:33:30 PDT   Listings
It was indeed a great pleasure to meet Sheryll and Steve and Jim. What nice people!!!

I will post a pic later. I have to resize it and then upload it -- skills I haven't used in years. But first I have to be gone most of today. Hopefully I'll be able to get the technical stuff to work this evening, or, worst case, tomorrow evening.

-- Dave
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Posted by infla-alec   ( 534 ) on May-26-07 at 07:38:07 PDT   Listings
Phil I accept and agree that specialists will always know the true market value of items, irrespective of what any catalogue states the value to be.
For sure the areas you follow are very much sought after and in such condition the demand far exceeeds the supply. So it's no wonder some areas will achieve above or near catalogue values.
The point I was trying to make is that too often the prices in all the main catalogues do not give a true market value. Yet at the same time many claim that those prices are close to what one can expect to pay on the open market. Maybe ebay has changed the way many collectors add to their collections. In that they no longer rely solely on the local dealer having the set / stamp he needs and having to buy at full cat price.

I'm also sure that many of the world wide collectors here can confirm that many of the so called, "cheaper" stamps are hardly ever found and many would gladly pay full cat to obtain a copy. Jim's Volcano search alone is one perfect example. Though I'm not sure Jim would like to have to pay full cat for those he is missing :-)

Like most collectors I probably have hundreds of the common stamps lying around, stuffed into stockbooks, album pages etc with no intention of ever really sorting them. One day they may end up on ebay or in some local auction and then some other guy can have the pleasure of sorting etc. I would never describe such stamps as worthless because I often see such accumulations sell very well. So someone somewhere must love having such things.

The other thing that does make me wonder sometimes is how the various catalogues can have such varying price opinions. For example SG may say GB #1 is worth £120 used. Yet Scott and Michel will give prices often way under or way above the same stamp. The value quoted is not a real one but just used to make the point. So no need for anyone to post in here pointing out the 1d blacks true value.

One of the biggest factors I feel that is driving up the price of better stamps and postal history is the sheer increase in the number of collectors wishing to specialize and also those participating in exhibiting. Though exhibiting is another topic all together.


Posted by w.parsec   ( 0 )   on May-26-07 at 07:17:15 PDT   Listings
Hello. Does everybody be happy?
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-26-07 at 07:12:40 PDT   Listings
stamps12345I think I busted their nut?

Where I come from that means working real hard and making a lot of money which I seriously doubt your crew does.
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-26-07 at 07:05:10 PDT   Listings
infla-alec You wrote among other things, "Hardly anyone ever pays the full catalogue price anyway so how some can say their pricing is a market value price is a joke. Yes dealers love to state 50% cat' price etc but even at 50% such prices are often nowhere near a true market value".

I follow high bid prices on eBay for my specialties, Russia MNH and British King George Sixth MNH very closely. In many instances MNH sets sell for a minimum of 60% Scott and higher with MNH Russia from the classic period (1925-1955 or so) sometimes fetching 2-3x Scott HERE ON EBAY as this sort of material is not readily found.

If it's U.S. you are referring to, that's a different animal entirely.

Phil
Posted by dbenson   ( 8233 ) on May-26-07 at 06:43:34 PDT   Listings
Paul,

the meaning of " worthless stamp " has nothing to do with the catalogue value, it means that the stamp has no philatelic merit and can be replaced very easily. There are many items with minimum catalogue value that are extremely difficult to obtain and no one would call them worthless,

David B.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1341 ) on May-26-07 at 04:18:38 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"

to you all


In keeping with the "People and/or places" theme here’s another precancel cover from
Anderson, Indiana.

Jim L.

member
Posted by 22028   ( 1608 ) on May-26-07 at 03:05:09 PDT   Listings
In areas of my interest i hardly need any catalogue..., prices are as per offer and demand. I just discovered a few items which are basically never offered. In order to get it, make a very high bid, irrespective of catalogue value and hope...
Posted by dbenson   ( 8233 ) on May-26-07 at 02:49:32 PDT   Listings
Just to correct the facts slightly, it is not every stamp in the catalogues that needs correcting, it is most probably only 5% of the classical period especially the rare items. Most catalogues update their specialty areas every year and keep records of current realisations,

David B.
Posted by 22028   ( 1608 ) on May-26-07 at 02:47:46 PDT   Listings
Some members here from Utah and surrounding area? It seems my sister-in-law will move to Utah and has invited us for next year. Any philatelic adventures/dealers there?
Posted by dbenson   ( 8233 ) on May-26-07 at 02:09:35 PDT   Listings
Alec, it's also the problem of the laziness of the catalogue editors & also the number of staff they have which I believe is only a few, prior to about 1970 when there was a fraction of the stamps that there are now, the main job of the catalogue editor was to update new issues and to correct editorial comments on older issues with updates of varieties. When a major sale of a country occurred then he would go through the realisations and adjust the following year catalogue valuations. Nowadays it seems to be the pressing of the keyboard to add a percentage to all the issues between certain dates of particular countries without checking on individual items. This has created a complete farce of many scarce issues but overall for the basic stamps it is about correct. What they should do IMO is try to make their way through the complete catalogues, especially for the classical material and adjust the prices. Gibbons in most cases don't have the material in stock and their stock mainly consists of later material which is regularly sold and has a market value which is well known.

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 534 ) on May-26-07 at 01:04:40 PDT   Listings
Catalogue Pricing In my humble opinion all the catalogue producers pricing poicies have flaws. Hardly anyone ever pays the full catalogue price anyway so how some can say their pricing is a market value price is a joke.
Yes dealers love to state 50% cat' price etc but even at 50% such prices are often nowhere near a true market value.
It saddens me to see far too often people believing that because the Scott, SG or Michel etc state something is worth , "x" amount then that is what the stamp should sell for. Of course that mainly applies to non collectors when trying to sell material but even some collectors believe this myth.

Values of the rarer material such as some of the Tonga David B mentioned are well known by the specialists to be totally wrong. Whenever such material is offered in main auctions you can be pretty sure those needing such an item will know about it and if they have the funds bid accordingly. Knowing fine well that they will have to bid high to beat off other interested parties.

I know of several items in my own collecting area that are unique or at very least extremely scarce but last seen about 20 years ago. By that I mean seen yes in exhibition but never offered for sale. Chances are these items will never be offered until the owner either gives up collecting or has died. The gems of philately are so often very much a case of owning , "a dead mans shoes". That said we all continue searching to add new material to our own collections. Value is simply what it is worth to us. I'm only into postal history and how I value something is never based on what the catalogue says but how well I feel such an item if owned will fit into my collection. Specialist collectors will always have the advantage over the general dealer. Dealers can not know everything about every stamp or cover and sometimes bargains can be found. How much of a bargain something is depends entirely on how much you as the new owner place on your purchase.
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-25-07 at 22:56:34 PDT   Listings
Nice to see that you all got together down there OK. It sounded like Sheryll was planning hard to get it all to work out. People here might recognize Steve better as ser1851, who has sold so many fully IDed and plated US #10s & 11s.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1341 ) on May-25-07 at 19:18:34 PDT   Listings
member
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-25-07 at 18:46:37 PDT   Listings
nomad55… Dave Frick is on the left, Steve Ruecker (Sheryll’s husband) is on the right. I was the entity operating the camera.

?

Both Dave and Sheryll took photos of me at the restaurant, so you’ll have to wait until Dave gets home and posts his pics, or Sheryll and Steve get back to Oregon and post their. I don’t want to keep you on tenterhooks all that time however, so you can go to my page for a sneak preview.

Jim
Posted by nomad55   ( 892 ) on May-25-07 at 18:14:26 PDT   Listings
I see we are back to the alphabet again.

"A" is for Alameda (California)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/nomad55/1915SF15-10LKU.jpg


25 February 1916 International machine slogan cancel advertising the Panama Pacific Exposition, which closed on 4 December 1915.
The cancelling device remained in use at Alameda for another 2 1/2 months, with this example being the latest known use.

Jaywild -nice pic. Its obvious which one is Sheryll, but..which one are you? Inquiring minds need to know.
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-25-07 at 17:16:13 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Just spent a wonderful afternoon with some great people—Dave Frick, & Sheryll & Steve Ruecker. We had a nice lunch at Tango Grill not far away, then came over to my place to look at some of my stamps & covers. Even Timberwolf put in a very reluctant appearance.

Jim
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-25-07 at 16:43:34 PDT   Listings
I don't see why a digital exhibit couldn't be practical if the actual pages were submitted to the judges for verification of authenticity. That would maintain the integrity of the process and still allow for wide distribution of the exhibits.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 365 ) on May-25-07 at 16:28:59 PDT   Listings
Paul
what greenwave Peter is reporting about that seller on ebay who has scammed over $100,000 in stamp sales last month, is a perfect example of why digital philtelic exhibits will never be taken serious.

there is too large a difference between the real world and cyber world

Linda
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-25-07 at 16:12:23 PDT   Listings
just as a side note -----what I seen so far for judging ditial philatelic exhibits ,you don't have to know stamps but you are better off if your a good story writer or a English Lit. major
Posted by dbenson   ( 8233 ) on May-25-07 at 16:02:41 PDT   Listings
Paul, I said that realisations should be the method, estimates are just guesswork,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-25-07 at 15:48:05 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. ----We all like to think what we all have is underpriced .But the fact reminds until a buyer bids it and makes a firm offer ,its all speculation.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-25-07 at 15:41:02 PDT   Listings
DAVID B. -------At Scott Publishing ,they do sent out {not every year }rough layouts with pricing to various people who are familiar with the area to review and make suggestions ,this includes socities.Pricing in the Scott catalog is the way I described it ....paul
Posted by dbenson   ( 8233 ) on May-25-07 at 15:33:41 PDT   Listings
Paul, I have never heard that any societies have any input to the catalogue editors regarding pricing. It has nothing to do with societies or their members and catalogue editors should use auction realisations as the basis, not price lists as they are usually inflated and are unreliable as there is no proof that any have sold at that amount.

It is not too much trouble for an editor to note changing prices of rare stamps, take for example Tonga's rarest item, 1895 1d. imperf between, only 4 could exist. Prior to 1975 it catalogues in Gibbons at 600 Pounds then a pair with a heavy thin sold at Auction for 4000 Pounds, they raised the price to 6000 Pounds the following year. It stayed the same until 2 years ago when it was raised to 6500 Pounds. I bought my pair in 1980 for 2000 Pounds. If it was sold now it would realise about 10,000 Pounds. As far as I know they are the only 2 pairs that have been sold in the past 40 years.

David B.

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-25-07 at 15:14:25 PDT   Listings
CATALOG PRICEING A good friend of mine ,who works for Scott Publishing Co. explain to me the pricing policy.Len Gellman told me once over dinner at the St. Louis stamp show that pricing comes from dealer retail price list. Those stamps that are too rare and sold at auction are not followed because of one time pricing and the catalog just uses a average which is received from outside soucres like auction houses or socities that have a interest in updating their area of interest .But David B. is right the specialist and professionals make and understand the true value on rare items ....paul
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-25-07 at 12:34:51 PDT   Listings
iomoon But of course I was referring to pricing and/or omissions. No contadiction here. However, there are many mistakes in Scott but they do a commendable job given the task. I recall recently seeing a price of $10.32 for a stamp. If correct, that 0.32 may be a first in decades. Usually prices are minimally in increments of 0.05.

Phil who also likes mortadella
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-25-07 at 12:25:00 PDT   Listings
Mitchell Try this flyer. It might be alright on letter size, remember we are A4 over here:-)


Peter


Posted by dbenson   ( 8233 ) on May-25-07 at 12:10:30 PDT   Listings
prochute,

no, I am happy for them to leave the prices low,

David B.
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 184 ) on May-25-07 at 11:55:12 PDT   Listings
I don't know a thing about this except it is an 'A' from Albany Lynn
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-25-07 at 11:45:44 PDT   Listings
If you want fun watch the negs rolling in for:

http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/sonic6623


I contacted SG yesterday after I discovered where the images came from, they have now contacted eBay. Almost everyone has come from their site and been very cleverly altered. This scam took quite a bit of thought and planning.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-25-07 at 11:36:36 PDT   Listings
your wish is my command:-)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-25-07 at 11:21:52 PDT   Listings
Peter That's fine! The only thing it needs now is to move the two bottom pieces down 1/2". When the page is cut in half now, there is little margin at the top of them.
Also if the right side and left side pieces could be moved out a little more they would be more centered when cut.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-25-07 at 10:10:04 PDT   Listings
Mitchell Is the more or less along the lines of what you wanted? flyer. Happy to change to whatever....


Peter


Posted by 220man   ( 151 ) on May-25-07 at 09:40:42 PDT   Listings
22028 Rainer: My _granddaughter_ just attended her first prom. That makes me feel old!
Phil
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1978 ) on May-25-07 at 09:35:43 PDT   Listings
EUSC election results

The EUSC ballot goes for Lawrence, Clark/Lamb/Shapiro, Younglood, Allen, Lenz, Martin, Odenweller, Stotts, and Haesler. I can report vote totals if there is interest in the subject. I did not change the outcomes of any races using "proxy" votes (and only 3 positions, 2 on the board of directors, were close enough for the proxies to have an impact).
Posted by knuden   ( 2278 ) on May-25-07 at 09:32:08 PDT   Listings
A new item has been added to my Prague cancelation collection:
A uprated Postal card from Prague October 20, 1880 to Paris, France with a german-french border cancel.
jaywild - thanks for the link. :O)

K.E   Remember the Philatelic High School auctions!!  :O)
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-25-07 at 09:28:44 PDT   Listings
prochute

On the contrary, I've found Jim Kloetzel to be extremely receptive to change in the catalogs where mistakes have been made. Whether this extends to the pricings of the stamps is another matter entirely.

Paul

Thanks! Proofreading your own writing is a lot harder than doing other people's.
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-25-07 at 07:56:35 PDT   Listings
dbenson Perhaps you should contact the editors at Stanley Gibbons regarding the realizations. Contacting Scott oft falls on deaf ears but I will try...
Posted by 22028   ( 1608 ) on May-25-07 at 06:43:38 PDT   Listings
My older daughter just left house to attend here very first prom. I wonder who was more exited, my wife of my daughter?
Posted by quokka999   ( 602 ) on May-25-07 at 06:34:29 PDT   Listings
iomoon just to show that I looked at your link on Aconcagua - Charler Darwin?

Paul

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-25-07 at 05:37:33 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

A is for Aconcagua, Argentina.
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Posted by stampmad   ( 1086 ) on May-25-07 at 02:48:50 PDT   Listings
Roger I suspect your insurance premiums increased because the replacement value of your boat was increasing. Sure, the value of your boat is decreasing but if it burns to the waterline your policy may dictate that you get a new one.
Marius
Posted by dbenson   ( 8233 ) on May-24-07 at 20:15:27 PDT   Listings
Prochute & Breffington,

I found this on the web,

just the ordinary double overprint

Colonial Stamp Co.

1143 * 22a (22c) 1894 +d on 1' brown K George I^ surcharged SG Type 11, ERROR - surcharge double, rare (only 1 pane of 60 printed),PHOTO Net Est $1,700.00


Breffington, I don't think any of them are known used,

David B.
Posted by breffington   ( 375 ) on May-24-07 at 20:02:22 PDT   Listings
To David Benson: Been off the board for awhile. For some reason my computer has locked me out of the board.Anyway Tonga 1894 #22c catalogs unused for $1,000 in the 2007 Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue. No value for used. Frank
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1341 ) on May-24-07 at 19:31:34 PDT   Listings

member
Posted by dbenson   ( 8233 ) on May-24-07 at 19:21:19 PDT   Listings
prochute, there have been about 10 of the double overprint sold in the past 20 years, the catalogue value is roughly the same as it was 20 years ago except for a few percentage rises each year whilst the realisations are over 8 times what they were 20 years ago. The major Auction houses keep records and their initial estimates are up to date, the last one sold for A$ 1650 against an estimate of A$1500-2000 which was an extremely good estimate considering the realisation. The current catalogue value of 275 Pounds makes a fool of the system if they can't update to approximate current realsiations. I don't mind the catalogue values being too low as sellers who do not realise that the catalogue value has no relevance to the value however as this item is always sold by major Auction Houses teh chances of finding one at a percentage of catalogue is extremely low. Last year I saw one in one of the " London Gentlemen's " stock but he had it priced at over 1000 Pounds so he knew what the value was,

re. the double overprint, my estimate of $10,000 is most probably too low and YES I do expect catalogue values to be almost up to date with auction realisations,


David B.
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-24-07 at 19:05:06 PDT   Listings
dbenson I do not think it really matters what the catalogues say. With only 5 known & 3 around, the auction realizations, as infrequent as they are, are the market values at the time. One cannot expect the editors to keep up with everything, can one?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-24-07 at 18:36:14 PDT   Listings
CABINDA not cabinba ----see what 12 hours of work does to ones mind
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-24-07 at 18:33:48 PDT   Listings
NEW COUNTRY for Paul's collection Came home today to the news of a new country that is now issueing stamps .The country is CABINBA .It was part of Angola ,Its first stamps are overprints of Angola .Most of us know the country as the fomer Portuguese Congo .

trying to stay up with the latest news events with ones collection.....paul

Posted by lluehhhb   ( 271 ) on May-24-07 at 18:20:09 PDT   Listings
Jim,

new Chilean volcano stamp was issued

here
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-24-07 at 18:06:16 PDT   Listings
Since Iceland released a souvenir sheet of volcanoes under ice today, it seems appropriate that I should also get this email today.

Glaciovolcanic images submitted to the database of the Volcano-Ice Interactions Working Group have now surpassed 100 and are available on-line to view and download for teaching, research and all other non-profit-making purposes. They can be accessed as follows:

Go to fire and ice or directly to
fire and ice, direct

Select "Guest account"

Select "Search Collection"

Enter "Glaciovolcanic" under "Type of eruption"

All the images will then be displayed. Please acknowledge the photographer if you make use of any images.
Posted by rclwa   ( 964 ) on May-24-07 at 15:10:31 PDT   Listings
Elephant alert!

Lot 160118772053

Bob in WA
Posted by dbenson   ( 8230 ) on May-24-07 at 13:45:27 PDT   Listings
roger,

here is where one of them is, 2nd. from the bottom of the sheet,

http://www.image4u.org/deebee/double.jpg

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8230 ) on May-24-07 at 13:33:40 PDT   Listings
roger, I know exactly where two of them are, I don't know where the one that was sold in 1960 is but it could possibly be the same one that was sold in 1982. For about the last 10 years Gibbons has increased many countries with a percentage rise over the whole country, usually 5% or 10% even though the actual auction realisations have been many times that.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8230 ) on May-24-07 at 13:29:28 PDT   Listings
Paolo,

Ciao, buon appetito,

David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-24-07 at 13:26:38 PDT   Listings
David -

I once owned a boat and after 4 years of paying insurance premiums I questioned the slow creep upwards of my premiums. The answer was that my boat was "increasing" in value each year along with the cost of living index! I told the agent that he was welcome to buy my boat at the new insurance company valuation. LOL of course boat value decline in value as the years move on just like cars. (there are exceptions, but few).

Maybe the catalogue stamps valuers have a similar in house formula not known to the public. Maybe the double overprint doesn't exist any more? If were are only three anything could have happened to them. Vacuum cleaned? incinerated? wine stained? lost in the attic? reperfed after removing second overprint?

Roger
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-24-07 at 13:23:16 PDT   Listings
Good day all!

Thank you for your kind wishes, Paul and Alec!

Dear Burton,
My address is:
Paolo Bagaglia
Plesmanstraat 279,
3769HJ SOESTERBERG
The Netherlands (NL)

I can publish it as it is written on top of hundreds of my 'certificates', most of which went through eBay.

I am away for some weeks.
Thank you for you very kind attention and e-mails!
I will contact you as soon as I am back.


To All
The British seller contacted me and he was very kind (as usual).
I sent the following e-mail as a reply:

"Dear XXXXX,

Thank you for your e-mail and my sincerest apologies for the tone of my previous one.
The reality is that I did not receive three items:
the little Swiss collection, the Sardinia 1853 II Issue 20 cent blue
and the Roman States 7 Baj. blue.
All of these stamps, especially the 7 baj., bore some characteristics that were interesting for me [(I am attempting a plate reconstruction of the 7 Baj. from used pieces; I am guided by one almost full sheet mint, of which I only have enlarged pictures, and several used copies, in pairs, strips and blocks. The composition varied during the printing as the clichƩs (or stereotypes) were movable.]

Curiously, all of the three (3) items I am missing came from the Buy It Now section (not from your auctions)!

I only received the 20 c. blue of the 4th Issue of Sardinia which I purchased from you at auction, not with the Buy It Now option.

I am leaving for the philatelic show of Verona (Italy).

I will write to you as soon as I get back.

All the best,
Paolo"


See you all in about three weeks,

Paolo Bagaglia

Posted by dbenson   ( 8230 ) on May-24-07 at 12:51:35 PDT   Listings
prochute, the value is slightly out,

There can only be 5 examples known and there is probably only 3 extant which includes one in the Royal collection.

The last one sold in 1982 at $4000 and the previous to that was in the early 1960's. I don't have any other records of any being sold anywhere at any time. In 1982 the ordinary overprint sold for $200, it is now $1600, eight times, I don't think the double would sell for 8 times $4000 and value it about $10,000. For some reason catalogues have not increased the prices for years except for small percentage increments each year without checking Auction realisations.

David B.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-24-07 at 12:24:29 PDT   Listings
Yellow Boxes


Two more sites have been added to the Yellow Boxes.

The Revenue Society, An International Society for collectors of Worldwide Revenue Stamps and Documents

Australian Revenue and Railway Stamps

David
Posted by arso77   ( 16 ) on May-24-07 at 10:38:16 PDT   Listings
Thank You!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3624 ) on May-24-07 at 09:51:43 PDT   Listings

M/S - either Matched Set refering to plate blocks, usually 4 position pieces, either 4 corners with rotary printed stamps, or top, bottom, left, right with flat plate printed stamps; or less likely ManuScript as in handwritten postmark, usually found as m/s lower case.

FDC is a First Day Cover, an envelope with stamp postmarked on the day of issue of the stamp

Posted by 22028   ( 1606 ) on May-24-07 at 09:49:58 PDT   Listings
M/S = Miniature Sheet, also called Souvenir Sheet
FDCs = First Day Covers(s)
Posted by oggilby   ( 1207 ) on May-24-07 at 09:49:29 PDT   Listings
arso77--FDCs are First Day Covers, no clue on M/S.
Posted by arso77   ( 16 ) on May-24-07 at 09:45:11 PDT   Listings
Hi guys,
can someone explain what the following abbreviation mean?
- M/S
- FDCs

Thanks
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-24-07 at 08:52:38 PDT   Listings
dbenson The doubled surcharCe variety is 2007 Scott #22c and lists at $1,000 mint only. So what's up with that?
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-24-07 at 08:49:13 PDT   Listings
dbenson Tonga 2007 Scott #22a, Ā½d. on 1/- brown George II double surcharge as they call it, is $310.00.

BTW, I looked at Seychellesin my Bridger & Kay 1980 Five Reigns catalogue. They dont even list the 1949 printings at all - just up to 1942.
Posted by 22028   ( 1606 ) on May-24-07 at 06:28:01 PDT   Listings
And for a chance..., here are some Russian Zemstvo stamps from:
Akhtyrka
http://fuchs-online.com/zemstvos/gallery/akhtyrka.htm

Aleksandriya
http://fuchs-online.com/zemstvos/gallery/aleksandriya.htm

Ananev
http://fuchs-online.com/zemstvos/gallery/ananev.htm
Posted by 22028   ( 1606 ) on May-24-07 at 06:05:45 PDT   Listings
A stands for Abu Jisrah, a small railway station in Iraq, 53 miles north of Baghdad East on the railway line from Baghdad East to Khanakin/Kirkuk. Abu Jishra did not had normal Postal facilities, so the railway post was the only postal service available.
http://fuchs-online.com/iraq/postal_history/Stations/Abu_Jisrah.htm
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-24-07 at 05:28:44 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

A is for Aden, Arabia.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-24-07 at 05:22:18 PDT   Listings
Mitchell here is an RTF copy of the flier. You can load it in Word or whatever and go from there.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1331 ) on May-24-07 at 05:13:50 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"

to you all


In keeping with the "People and/or places" theme hereā€™s a precancel cover from
Anderson, Indiana.

My files did not lend themselves to finding much by the numbers. Hopefully Iā€™ll not re-post items from our first pass.

Jim L.

member
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-24-07 at 05:07:34 PDT   Listings
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Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-24-07 at 05:07:04 PDT   Listings
Anne I saw this Egypt Offices in Constantinople cover and thought of you.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8230 ) on May-24-07 at 03:41:49 PDT   Listings
19th.C., make that I bought it in 1982 for $4000, the only other example that I know of was sold in 1960, only 5 can exist,

David B.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-24-07 at 03:22:24 PDT   Listings
First pass at new flyer. flyer. Happy to change to whatever....


Peter


Posted by dbenson   ( 8230 ) on May-24-07 at 03:00:39 PDT   Listings
19th.C, those prices are more way out than Gibbons. The ordinary double has been realising over $1000 for the past couple of years and the last double with C sold for over $4000 and I was the buyer and that was about 10 years ago. It would be closer to $10,000 today.

David B.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-24-07 at 02:14:09 PDT   Listings
Roger Hi Roger, no problems, I misread your post:-) I will have a look at it now. Must be time you retired for the night!
Peter
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-24-07 at 01:57:10 PDT   Listings
Peter -
AAaactually, I was offering a possible workaround. I really don't have time this week to start redesigning the flier. Mitchell will probably take a look here in the morning. Maybe you can find out what he needs and since (my guess) you both have the same operating platform, he may take you up on your offer.


Roger
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 184 ) on May-24-07 at 01:28:38 PDT   Listings
dbenson
@004 scott says 1/2pon 1sh brn (bk) doubl surcharge $275us mint, but misspelled 'surcharce' with double overprint is $850-mint. Lynn
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-24-07 at 00:24:30 PDT   Listings
Roger If you run into problems with the new flyer let me know and I will have a go. You should be able to copy straight into Word and then edit whatever. I can write from word into pdf if it helps.
We still have the problem that the link from stamps.ebay.com does not work. eBay acknowledged to me more than a month ago that there was a problem, but to date still not fixed, perhaps someone else would like to have a go at them!!!
Can we also get www.iusc.org put onto the flyer?
cheers
Peter
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on May-23-07 at 23:57:26 PDT   Listings
FREE to a good home for any one interested. Please let me know if you want it on cover or cut off.
Email me via ebay contact system.
Cheers

Roly

1st in 1st served.

Posted by dbenson   ( 8230 ) on May-23-07 at 23:37:12 PDT   Listings
Could someone look up Scott's Tonga 1894 Halfpenny on 1s. Brown overprint double and let me know what the cat. value is. It cats. in Gibbons at 275 Pounds. An Auction in Melbourne sold one on Monday for A$1650 + 16.5% which is approx. US$1500 or 745 Pounds.

David B.
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-23-07 at 22:54:48 PDT   Listings
Mitchell -

Once you have the page downloaded as an Adobe file you should be able to select the Text button on the Toolbar. I can select "All" text, Copy, then paste into an Apple Draw page and edit any of the text, etc.

I can't save directly for some unimaginable reason, but can save as a PDF file when I go to print.

I'm not sure what you need to edit other than the new logo. I can select the old logo, copy and paste the same way.

Give it a try on the old PC, maybe it will work.

Roger



Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-23-07 at 22:42:29 PDT   Listings
knudenā€¦ Something for you, perhaps. Youā€™d never find it in a search since Sudetenland is misspelledā€¦

Jim
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-23-07 at 22:15:01 PDT   Listings
EUSC members There is a problem with the flyers on the EUSC site and we cannot figure out how to edit them. Could the person who originally made them (or anyone else who knows how to edit that format) get a hold of me.
It would be appreciated.

Mitchell
Email: president@iusc.org
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-23-07 at 21:54:25 PDT   Listings
Matt in AZā€¦ U R Welcomeā€¦

Jim
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-23-07 at 20:33:42 PDT   Listings
NO STAMP SHOW THIS YEAR Most of you know that I work thru the weekends .This year my crew has worked 21 days without a day off .So out of the kindness of my heart ,I announce that we will take this Friday as a off day before the long 3 day weekend/holiday .They were all in a agreement .What they didn't know was that this Friday was the first day of the COMPEX show,that is the big stamp show in the Chicago area and I wanted to attend .

Today we were working at the Riverside Swim Club doing asphalt repair work .While there I got to talk to one of the managers and said they should sealcoat and stripe their lot. But the swim season starts this Saturday and they wanted to get it done .So I said no problem Friday will work just fine . Wrote up a contract and got it signed on the spot .Oh well the guys are not happy and as for me no stamp show this summer .But Im not depressed because it will mean a extra stamp auction lot this fall.....paul

Posted by keleofa   ( 3446 ) on May-23-07 at 18:47:56 PDT   Listings
Jaywild,

Jim: Solo Liberty is on the way --- Thanks!!!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3446 ) on May-23-07 at 18:42:03 PDT   Listings
Paperhistory,

Matt: The Alabama covers arrived today --- Thanks!!!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1331 ) on May-23-07 at 17:19:08 PDT   Listings

In keeping with the "People and/or places" theme hereā€™s a precancel cover used to raise funds for the Local (County wide) Christmas Seal Campaign from Auburn, Indiana .

My files did not lend themselves to finding my by the numbers. Hopefully Iā€™ll not re-post items from our first pass.

Jim L.

member

Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-23-07 at 17:11:34 PDT   Listings
dansplancan...Good evening. I think that's really a North Dakota cowboy on the horse. He's just visiting Montana.
Posted by dansplancan   ( 11 ) on May-23-07 at 16:58:32 PDT   Listings
Good evening.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-23-07 at 15:22:26 PDT   Listings
de66...Well, I am not adding sites, I've already done that. However, those sites seem appropriate and I will add them.

David
Posted by de66   ( 1081 ) on May-23-07 at 15:11:41 PDT   Listings
Stamphick

While you are adding revenues to the yellow boxes how about

The World Revenue Society here:

http://revenuesociety.org.uk/

And my own 'information only' Revenue Site here:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/dave1/index/

D1
Posted by philatarium   ( 231 ) on May-23-07 at 15:02:18 PDT   Listings
Jim/jaywild When you get a chance, could you check your eBay message center? I don't otherwise have an email address for you, and needed to discuss something with you about Friday. Thanks!
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-23-07 at 14:57:58 PDT   Listings
Alec I think we kind of agreed to do A-Z topical/thematic people and or places.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-23-07 at 14:39:38 PDT   Listings
NOIP Well the dodgy seller sonic6623 went to a lot of trouble to disguise where he stole the images from. He took this one
http://www.stanleygibbons.com/shop/index.asp?page=item&stockID=P07800691&nav_selected=23
and turned it into this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=23740&item=250110451592

He also did the same with the one shilling brown from the SG site. This was a well planned scam!
Peter
Posted by oggilby   ( 1207 ) on May-23-07 at 13:34:13 PDT   Listings
Ow! my head hurts! Crowned the King of Spam-a-lot!
Posted by reperf   ( 34 ) on May-23-07 at 13:08:22 PDT   Listings
jaywild,

I would be reluctant to try to separate a 211B special printing by the shade. However, the quality of the printing (a steam powered press was used) is quite high and the background cross hatching is quite clear, especially in the lower part of the vignette background next to Washington's neck.

In any case a certificate is required before a #211B should be considered saleable.
Posted by 220man   ( 151 ) on May-23-07 at 12:44:43 PDT   Listings
Last try once more
Posted by 220man   ( 151 ) on May-23-07 at 12:36:13 PDT   Listings
Try again, kit
Posted by 220man   ( 151 ) on May-23-07 at 12:34:21 PDT   Listings
All: Am trying to keep two of the grandkids interested in stamps, and so I put together a "kit" for them with the new Jamestown issue folio, a piece from the newspaper on the archeological work going on at the site, and three kid books from the imaginary diary of a young girl settler.
Did a similar thing awhile ago with the Lewis & Clark issue.
see "kit"
Posted by infla-alec   ( 532 ) on May-23-07 at 11:12:49 PDT   Listings
NOIP Can anyone enlighten me please as to where we are with the boards show topics ? I know the number series has just finished but have we decided on what will follow next ?
I missed a few days of the boards postings so apologies if I'm asking something that has already been agreed upon.

Paolo Good luck in the job search. Above all have faith and confidence in your own abilities. If a job vacancy arises that you don't get, don't let it depress you. Sooner or later another one will come along and often far better than the one which passed you by.

Terry Sometimes answers can appear here instantly and at other times it can be several hours. All depends on who is online at the time the question is asked. Board regulars are spread out all over the world and as such a vast difference in time zones exists between us all.
Posted by quixa.iks   ( 113 ) on May-23-07 at 11:08:49 PDT   Listings
Thanks, you really helped me a lot..
Usually I only deal with german stamps and I had no Idea about these, except that they are not german :)
Have a nice evening
Posted by wighwam   ( 285 ) on May-23-07 at 10:23:26 PDT   Listings
Boy, you have to be fast around here.
Terry
Posted by wighwam   ( 285 ) on May-23-07 at 10:22:07 PDT   Listings
quixa.iks.
I believe the stamps you are asking about are from Wales. They also come with a lion (Scotland) and a hand (northern Ireland) and are known as regionals. In Scott catalogue they are at the end of Great Britain but I don't know where they are listed in other catalogues.
Terry
Posted by oggilby   ( 1207 ) on May-23-07 at 10:20:37 PDT   Listings
Hi quixa.iks--Those stamps with Lizzie's profile and the Dragon in the corner are GB regional stamps for use in Wales.
Posted by 22028   ( 1606 ) on May-23-07 at 10:19:11 PDT   Listings
Jim, here on my project, in order to release a contractual shipment from customs, my commercial manager has to prepare a "Receive Cum Damage Report".
Some years ago I had a secretary from South Africa, a former model, when she prepared the cover letter for this report she always had a smile on here face ;-)))
Posted by quixa.iks   ( 113 ) on May-23-07 at 10:10:23 PDT   Listings
Hi All..
Im from germany and got a question
I got stamps of the queen, look like the "normal", but have a little dragon in the corner..
Do you know why/where they are from?
Thanx
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-23-07 at 08:47:20 PDT   Listings
vinnysfā€¦ Thatā€™s what they get for hiring illiterates to do their lot descriptions.

ā˜ŗ

Jim
Posted by vinnysf   ( 467 ) on May-23-07 at 08:43:59 PDT   Listings
well then maybe some of you viagra users are responsible for this stamp!
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on May-23-07 at 08:19:19 PDT   Listings
Jay
That Viagra is like software--it stops working as soon as you reach 80.
I once saw an estimate online of the number of stamp collections lost over the years in those LA brush fires.It was not as many as claimed on insurance, but it was still a tragedy.
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-23-07 at 07:01:10 PDT   Listings
Junk email nobody would ever openā€¦

Sender: Viagra4all
Message Line: I am 79 years young!

Erā€”no thanksā€¦

Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-23-07 at 06:27:59 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

A new spoof (to me).

"You sell this beside your usual items? Or this listing is not yours?"

Then proceeds to give a link which appears to be eBay.com.uk, but is actually a URL with a Russian address.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-23-07 at 05:00:50 PDT   Listings
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05/28/05

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1331 ) on May-23-07 at 04:24:13 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"

to you all



Jim L.

member
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1977 ) on May-23-07 at 02:36:46 PDT   Listings
APS Election - Final Call
Here's the candidate listing. All EUSC members can vote, whether or not you are an APS member (I believe that to be correct and am verifying). My suggestion is to cut and paste the candidate list into an email, and then simply delete the names you are not selecting.
Email your votes (or abstentions) to me at mliebson@gmail.com no later than MAY 24, 2007. I am leaving lead time to get any necessary signatures on the final paperwork.
For those seeking additional information, statements are available from the APS website here. The Virtual Stamp Club has an election website here, which includes links to websites for some candidates and also a link to the VSC chat board, where the election has been extensively discussed. [If there are other online locations where the election has been a subject of discussion, I am happy to add them to the resource list here]. The May issue of the American Philatelist includes both the candidate statements and candidate advertisements.

President (vote for one, one to be elected)
Nicholas G. Carter
Ken Lawrence

Board of Vice Presidents (vote for one team, one team of three to be elected)
Nancy B. Clark, Robert E. Lamb, Jeffrey N. Shapiro
Steven Jeffrey Rod, Wade Edgar Saadi, David Lee Straight

Secretary (vote for one, one to be elected)
Wayne Youngblood
Steve Zwillinger

Treasurer (vote for one, one to be elected)
Thomas F. Allen
W. Danforth Walker

Director at Large (vote for up to four candidates, four to be elected)
Michael D. Dixon
Joann Lenz
Peter D. Martin
Robert P. Odenweller
Denise L. Stotts
Kent M. Wilson

APRL Trustee (vote for one)
John B. Flannery
Rob Haeseler

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-23-07 at 00:13:22 PDT   Listings
Linda Hi Linda, yes that is one hell of a scam, sell a few CDs get good feedback and then make a big hit with a load of apparently stolen images. If you look at some of the auction they were a bit strange as well. I saw his lots listed last week and thought it strange that one seller had so many mint QV GB up at one time but did notice he had no track record in stamps. I am suprised eBay has not suspended yet.
Peter
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-22-07 at 22:20:46 PDT   Listings
Additions to Yellow Boxes


Two new sites have been added to the Yellow Boxes.

An in-depth study of the New Zealand Penny Universal

State Revenue Society
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-22-07 at 20:30:36 PDT   Listings
antonius-ra Spoken like the faux president of a faux club!
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-22-07 at 19:26:28 PDT   Listings
Thanks all for the info on both the Orangeburg coils and the 2Ā¢ banknote special printing. I have set him down and shown him how to use a perf guage (he was counting the perfs) and talked about the color differences on the special printing.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 363 ) on May-22-07 at 19:02:00 PDT   Listings
oh goodness! greenPeter that looks like about Ā£50,000 worth of sales.. thats like about US$99,000 - a big eBay fraud if it is a fraud!! gosh!!

Linda, almost speechless!
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-22-07 at 18:34:40 PDT   Listings
Correctionā€¦ The 2Ā¢ Washington Special Printing of 1880 was not separated from others in its sheet by scissors. That was only true of the 1875 hard paper Special Printings.

My bad!!

The color is a very distinct dark brown (1875, hard paper) or black brown (1880, soft paper), and only 416 are recorded of both as having been sold. Nobody knows how many of these still exist. As far as I can tell, they are not known used.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-22-07 at 18:23:55 PDT   Listings
Bill Sā€¦ Here is info from the PF on the Orangeburg coil, along with a picture.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-22-07 at 18:20:38 PDT   Listings
Orangeburg coilsā€¦ Additionally, the only ones known are in the grade of fine, i.e. the design touches the top of the stamp. The 2Ā¢ special printing is a darker brown, and if I remember correctly they were all separated by scissors from the sheet. Those were obviously separated by crimping and tearing.

If this member persists in his fantasies, he evidently wonā€™t be swayed by mere evidence and logic. Youā€™ve done your best!

Jim
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on May-22-07 at 17:22:47 PDT   Listings
Billsey First you could start by pointing out that there are only about a dozen copies of the Orangburg coil known. So its slightly a bit suspicious that three of them turn up together at once.

Of course such amazing finds are at the core of the sad display we see here daily on EBay, now the planets #1 venue to get screwed on a rare stamp.

Step #2 on educating your friend, would be buying him a perf gauge. As Paul pointed out, the Orangeburg's are perf 12, and those you linked......aren't.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-22-07 at 16:42:42 PDT   Listings
PAOLO-------Good Luck on finding a better job ,and try to take sometime to catch up on all the other things that need to be done and please allow some quiet time with your stamp collection too relax .....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-22-07 at 16:33:00 PDT   Listings
BERKOWITZ -----Welcome to the board ,the airmail stamps that have the overprint "RF" are easly faked and there are many hundreds of bad ones out there for the few that need to be expertized .....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-22-07 at 16:28:25 PDT   Listings
BILLSEY-----The orangeburg coil is only expertized when matched to a known copy .There are three factors that are looked at on used copies one is the wavy-line machine cancels ,which your scans have . It should be perf 12 and the color should be a unusal deep shade which your scans don't have but only a match to a original is needed .Also the stamp should measure between 23.5 mm and 24.5mm tall were the flate printings are 25mm tall.....paul
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-22-07 at 16:03:11 PDT   Listings
berkowitz4004 If you know nothing about stamps then why did you buy them? If your dog told you to do it, you should seek immediate professional help.
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-22-07 at 16:02:42 PDT   Listings
US Experts, I have a club member who brought me several stamps that he is sure are the expensive ones. Here [300k] are his 2Ā¢ special printings on soft, porous paper and here [165k] are his Orangeburg coils. Could anyone give me the ammunition to disuade him of his beliefs? :-)
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-22-07 at 15:10:35 PDT   Listings
NOIP Looks like this guy has taken a lot to the cleaners

http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/sonic6623/

Peter
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1665 ) on May-22-07 at 14:56:11 PDT   Listings
Sorry. Responded with my Discussion Board ID.
Posted by kgvi   ( 0 ) on May-22-07 at 14:54:11 PDT   Listings
Maarten, not surprised at your response and I understand the reason for your delay.

The original stamp was not issued as a triangle, but the revenue was only issued in that manner.
I was basically curious where the edge of your triangle definition was.
And I'll take your position as probably representing the majority.

Posted by trianglemaarten   ( 190 ) on May-22-07 at 12:33:12 PDT   Listings
dcderoo - Sorry for my late reply. Hmmm, a tough question. Personally as a rule I don't include bisects in my collection of triangular stamps. I.e. stamps should be originally issued in a triangular design. The shown St.Vincent revenue, with it's triangular oriented overprint and diagonal perforation, is really on the edge of my collection criteria.

Maarten
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-22-07 at 12:23:39 PDT   Listings
Bob in WAā€¦ I think that is a ā€œspecimenā€ cancel, although I donā€™t remember where I read that. You might ask on Richard Frajolaā€™s board.

Jim
Posted by rclwa   ( 964 ) on May-22-07 at 11:23:33 PDT   Listings
Can anyone comment on the ''cancel'' on lot 260120137779 ? It looks rather strange to me.

Bob in WA
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-22-07 at 11:07:04 PDT   Listings
NOIP,
Found this at the
Vermont Country Store
. Sounds good to me.

jimbo


Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-22-07 at 10:32:27 PDT   Listings
berkowitz2004ā€¦ In 1944-5, US Airmail stamps were overprinted RF so they could be used by naval forces of the Free French aboard French ships on mail sent to the US and Canada, however the overprints were applied to the stamps only after they were on cover and ready to enter the mailstream. Many forgeries exist, including sheets of stamps overprinted at a later date. These are not generally considered genuine. See here for what the Scott catalog says about them.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-22-07 at 10:24:15 PDT   Listings
Rainerā€¦ Very nice, very scarce item! I canā€™t imagine where you find these gems. Your English description of the item is perfect and clear.

One small suggestion, howeverā€”in this line ā€œMY ARCHIVE WERE I HAVE LISTEDā€¦ā€ you want the word ā€œWHEREā€ instead of ā€œWEREā€. WERE is the past tense of the English word ARE, while WHERE is WO auf Deutsch.

ā˜ŗ

Jim
Posted by 22028   ( 1606 ) on May-22-07 at 09:08:33 PDT   Listings
After long time i have ones again updated my ME Page, this time a rare 1924 cover from Cairo to Baghdad, transported by the Overland Mail Baghdad-Haifa shown. The cover is carrying the rare Motor Mail label issued by the Egyptian post.
Have a look...
Posted by berkowitz4004   ( 0 )   on May-22-07 at 09:04:28 PDT   Listings
hi, I am new on this matter and I don't know anything about stamps. I recently purchased a property on foreclosure and found four frames,each of them with a sheet of stamps of 50 each with a print RF in every stamp,the prints in the four frames are different.The stamps are air mails from the USA 6 cents value. Could anyone tell me what it is and if there is any value for those stamps? Thank you. berkowitz4004
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3624 ) on May-22-07 at 07:35:35 PDT   Listings

Anyone interested in a Threeway?

grin

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3624 ) on May-22-07 at 07:33:11 PDT   Listings

jay-jim - actually it is Montague Conty in which Montage is the county seat. We live here, and are included in the Montague population of 500, and live 4 miles out of town.

Always looking for something new to add.

Jeff

Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-22-07 at 07:20:54 PDT   Listings
NOIP,
There was a recent flurry over the availability of the new Jamestown triangles. I took heed and went to the USPS Postal Store and made use of the Settlement of Jamestown ordering link in the center of the page. I ordered three sheets and received priority mail delivery for only $1. They arrived yesterday (I think they were ordered late Wednesday of last week. (I received an e-mail this morning notifying me that they had been shipped!) I thought that was excellent service for the $1 extra it cost over face value. Can't beat that with a stick!

On another note, it has been good to see some old friends around once again. I hope they won't be gone as long now.

jimbo


Posted by dcderoo   ( 1665 ) on May-22-07 at 07:04:57 PDT   Listings
Let's see if I can do this in easily answerable steps.
I'm trying to find the best way for me to understand a catalogue published in French.
And I tend not to have a aptitude for languages.

1. What is a good online translator for French to English?
I have a good French-English dictionary to help me.

2. How can the translation of "jargon" be best handled?
Translators like Babelfish and my dictionary work with the common equivalents and proper use.
But the philatelic and numismatic worlds often have their own special usages/meanings.
The one that sent me over the edge was "Les ā‚¬ateliers monĆ©taires". What is that?!

I'm willing to take the time to work this out, but I need a good starting point.

Posted by oggilby   ( 1207 ) on May-22-07 at 07:00:45 PDT   Listings
Greetings to all from sunny, Central Maryland.

Paolo--I stil need you snail mail address, please.

My line office at NOAA, NGS, decides to reconfigure all our IP addresses over the weekend and everything went to poop! All our IP address are unavailable.

Off to take my daughter to the doctor's, again, ear problems associated with allergies.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1331 ) on May-22-07 at 06:31:44 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"

to you all


FWIW, I chose Times New Roman because I like the way it looks and itā€™s being designed for ease in reading over the default font chosen for this board by eBay and LiveWorld.

billsey
Thanks for your evaluation of the HTML code. Iā€™ve added another < / font > to close the size command before the last line to my saved copy.

Paolo
I wish you quick success in your job search.

Jim L.

member

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-22-07 at 06:06:22 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

From a sunny Scarsdale.
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-22-07 at 05:43:58 PDT   Listings
**I hereby take back into my mouth all what I wrote about British sellers and me being a 'philatelic expert'

I hope all interested parties will accept my sincerest apologies.
I feel very embarassed for it.

I have been a real pest with my posts.
You will understand that the stupid words I wrote, only but depict me myself as a stupid and irresponsible.
I do not have either the knowledge or the experience to draw any conclusions regarding the subject.
The conclusions are and would be worthless, anyway.
Skip on those posts of mine, do not read it nor take it in consideration

My problems are about me having lost a job, being deeply depressed and upset with everything that surrounds me (except stamps and partner) and my wife, and having an uncertain future with her job.
Things could go better, but I shouldn't complain because we at least are healthy

I will hereby try to mend,
stating that amongst the best philatelic deals I ever made are those with British sellers!

Once again,
my apologies to all interested parties,
I will crawl back under my rock now (actually, first I have to go out to buy cigarettes).

All the best,
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-22-07 at 05:25:13 PDT   Listings
P.S. I continue to get this error page:
"An error occured processing your request. If this problem persists, please contact the webmaster or administrator of this site"
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-22-07 at 05:23:45 PDT   Listings
Peter and Rainer
Thanks and indeed!

David B.,
The report button doesn't work for me;
it gives me and invalid page.
Please,
feel free to report anything you judge it's bad.
TIA
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-22-07 at 05:18:38 PDT   Listings
Good day all!

Roly,
At the present moment, the stamps which got imbibited of prosecco wine stay much better than my head!
I just soaked them off in water, luckily no 'water-fugitive' inks were included.

*I sure wrote some very serious BS yesterday night, my apologies for it! :-(*

Jim (Jaywild),
I also had previous transactions with the seller, all were problem free (as a matter of fact, we mutually exchanged positive f.b. in the course of the last year or so).

Paolo
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-22-07 at 03:36:35 PDT   Listings
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Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-22-07 at 00:12:35 PDT   Listings
Paolo I can echo Jim in saying that I have purchased several items from that seller and always received fast delivery and good communication as well. Just possibly the postman has contrived to lose it or perhaps had colic on the day he was supposed to deliver:-)
Peter
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 363 ) on May-21-07 at 23:59:59 PDT   Listings

Oh Dear, 1stamper, the rules are the same as they were a year ago, you are not allowed to advertise in here.


Posted by 22028   ( 1606 ) on May-21-07 at 22:28:19 PDT   Listings
Paolo, it seems you are not in the best mood, or?
Posted by dbenson   ( 8230 ) on May-21-07 at 21:07:44 PDT   Listings
Paolo,

It may be in your best interest to hit the REPORT button on a couple of your posts.

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-21-07 at 20:46:41 PDT   Listings
NO problems or complaints,and no rants just working on stamps each night ......paul
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 20:43:12 PDT   Listings
Jeffā€¦ Nice item! I didnā€™t know you were focusing on Montague.

Paolo... Interesting, because I have had dealings with scott_philatelics and they have all gone very smoothly. I hope you get things straightened out.

Jim
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 20:41:33 PDT   Listings
Congratulations Postalhysteria!
Hope you get the exquisite octangualr related item, after all!
My last eBay purchases weren't so promising at all. Recalling I had to send a reminder to Rubystamps to send my item I had paid for, about a year ago, he had totally forgotten about it, but then I was very glad to receive it after I reminded him/them, I do not like this thing of large sellers (power, or whatever) on eBay.
At the moment I took a stop from buying anything on eBay, unless it's from a Dutch seller in my own country which I can, eventually, track down and solve his recidividity with the help of my lawyer.
I am not very inspired to buy ANYTHING on eBay at the moment and, regardless how stupidly childish will it sound, certainly not from British sellers.
Paolo
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3624 ) on May-21-07 at 20:05:57 PDT   Listings

Today I won this addition to my MONTAGUE TEXAS collection. Looking forward to seeing who the sender was. My only other example of this octagon is an 1880 backstamp.

Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 20:03:09 PDT   Listings
Another nasty (philatelic) e-mail I sent today, to ********(AIEP) in Paris:
Dear **********,

You are talking to another philtalic expert, just like you (or more).
I would like to know what went wrong in the transaction.
I am leaving for a philatelic meeting in Italy (Verona) in two days.
My wife will be able to reply to your eventual response.

All the best,

Paolo Bagaglia
(Philatelic Expert)

Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 19:55:34 PDT   Listings
To the British readers who are always greeted by colic:
I just sent out this e-mail:

Dear ******,

I still did not receive the Roman States 7 Baj.. black on blue and the two other lots (for above 15 pounds) I had acquired from you.
I am wondering if you ever shipped it to me, since I received the sardinia 20 cents. blue used with a letter from you in the envelope.

I have to go to a philatelic bourse in Italy, to Verona, on coming Friday.


I will not forget about this thing, I lost money on it!
I shall report to eBay, If necessary I will give negative feedback after having requested a refund from my VISA credit card!


Paolo Bagaglia"

It concerns some items, which I have paid for but NEVER received. One example is this one as follows :
here.

When I return from Verona I will try to settle this 'scum problem', it concerns other two items from same seller in Great Britain.


All the best,
Paolo Bagaglia

Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on May-21-07 at 19:36:17 PDT   Listings
Good job it was a DRY wine Paolo. If it had been a WET one you would be in an awful lot of bother now :).................
Cheers

Roly
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 18:40:59 PDT   Listings
;-)
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 18:40:06 PDT   Listings
ALL of what is offered od Sardinia #9 on eBay at the moment is a FORGERY! (I also saw a few forgeries with APS certificate).
They (eBAy) should let themselves implode into this thing of FORGERIES, they do not even knoe what it means and yet terminate auctions (upon signalatioin of some SCUM BAG, lower Cambodja wothless bellic residuate) beacuse this word is included!!!
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 18:26:07 PDT   Listings
SADINIA #9, of course! ;-)
Paolo Bagaglia
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 18:24:48 PDT   Listings
Bill S.,
Hi and thank you for your kind concern! :-)
I am (fortunately!) on dry white wine the moment from 'LA PIEVE';
I recall I certified one of Barry's Sadinia # 9 (40 cents brigh red) with a CDS from "LA PIEVE".
I just wish I had bought it for 60-70 US dollars (or something like that) as it was sold at auction on eBay.
I did not bid because my name appeared in the auction description.
I recall I was in doubt on whether it was the dark tinge of #9 or the normal Issue, both extremely scarce as genuine used. This one was cut into on right margin.
Wish I had bought it for that money!!! (Oh PANTS!!!), I couldn't buy it because I had Issued the certificate of guarantee for it!
Like some Richard F. said in response of one of our David B. posts about 8 years ago, you can always solve the red wine into white wine.

All the best for you, Paolo ( still a little p**ed off, nothing to do with you dear Bill S., guess I will always be that way)
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-21-07 at 17:46:25 PDT   Listings
Paolo, after proper experimentation, you'll have to tell us what works best for washing the wine out of stamps. I certainly hope it was a nice dry white wine, and not a full bodied red!
Posted by tevek   ( 1537 ) on May-21-07 at 17:39:30 PDT   Listings
Hi, don't have the proper catalogue to look up a cigarette revenue stamp, it is blue, for 100 cigarettes and series of 1910, if anyone knows catalog value i would appreciate it, it is still on the tin, thanks in advance, Debbie (tevek
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 17:35:33 PDT   Listings
The Debye-Falkenhagen (amongst my adored ones) small intermolecular forces!
Nasty ones!

;-), Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 17:25:55 PDT   Listings
I just experienced a slight 'PROSECCO' interference/accident on stamps.
I was all dedicated to measuring perfs when, inadvertently, with my elbow, I let a full glass of dry wine drop sideways on my beloved little pieces of paper!
Like Louise (cat who...) would have said: "oh, pants!"
;-) Paolo
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-21-07 at 16:50:20 PDT   Listings
It's also worth noting that you didn't close the 'size="4"' font when you switch back to 'size="7"' for the last line of the colored text. I added a </font> in just before the change of size to fix that.
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-21-07 at 16:47:54 PDT   Listings
Jim Lawler, you might think about getting rid the the "Times New Roman" of your code. When you close the previous font (The last </FONT> before closing the bold and center) it will reset the font to what the board viewer has set in their preferences, rather than forcing them to view the rest of the post in TNR. You also won't have to rely on LiveWorld to close your fonts for you, as you do now. Here's what your post would have looked like with that change:

Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all



For text part or my posts I specify the font, with a < & then FONT FACE = "Times New Romanā€ & a space, then SIZE = ā€œ4ā€ and the >. No spaces, an ā€œ&ā€ or ā€œthenā€ or ā€œa spaceā€ For a long time I used size 3, but then Live world made some changes and reduced the end resulting size which I considered hard to read. I'm trying to get 12 point font. The size three is to small and the size four seems a bit large.
The ā€œGreetingsā€ part of my post is size 7 with the font specified as Times New Roman. Each color change requires ending the color before starting the next color. I used an older piece of software to create the effect.

Jim L.

member
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 15:47:14 PDT   Listings
Oh drats! "infinta" => infinita! -- that's what he wrote.
Mannaggia alla tastiera (damned keyboard) ;-) ;-) ;-)
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 15:39:12 PDT   Listings
For when you approcah a large accumulation of postage stamps / postal objects I couldn't go away without quoting this one of Giovanni Pascoli, I do not guarantee the spelling, I just go on memory, a poem written by the author to celebrate Alexandros (Alexander "the Great"), especially when he got to the eastern limit of the known civilization and had to stop his march:

"... era miglior pensiero restare, non guardar oltre, sognare.
Il sogno ĆØ l'infinta ombra del vero."

"... wasn't it a better option to stop, not watch beyond, to dream?
The dream is the infinte shadow of reality. "

All the best (not rest, at this time).
Paolo
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 15:09:57 PDT   Listings
PPS: it appears I will be mostly busy with the ASPoT (Association for the Study of Tuscany Postal History); I have to pay the annual fees and proffer some apologies for my delays in the poublication of certain additional articles on Tuscany stamps plate faults.
You can always ask at their stand where I am, I should be in the close neighbourhood, if not there (you can smell the fear I emanate in dealers in order to locate me!!!)
All the rest... is crap,
Jean Paul Bagaglia (wish my/our friend Tom Lowe could also attend )
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-21-07 at 14:19:26 PDT   Listings
Aloha Roger,
Thank you for your messages and for the previous link to the AHPS on Standing Helvetia.
Fear not, as I approach any of such large accumulations I do not focus on one series in particular and try to finish it up (i.e. find the correct classification for all pieces of the same denomination belonging to one set, eliminate the lame) but I rotate. I get back there more than once, after having re-read catalogue-bibliographic instructions and with a different status mentis.
Sometimes it helps finding the big ones without destroying them because they are defective.
On the Italian area I work a little faster!
But the Swiss area is WAY more rich of varieties!
Fear not, I signalled to Sassone several new finds, but the direct responsible/ share holders of the catalogue are too busy counting the money they make.
I will never forgive them for their negligence (I do know names and surnames).
Before I destroy a stamp, say, as a wild example which locates the time frame of the accumulation I am examining at its best, a Tell 10 cents carmine of 1914, type I (I found only about 10 genuinelty used of it, it could be rarer than what is reflected by the catalogue value), I scan the stamp under several different perspectives, in the course of some days.
I will never destroy a 'SON' cancel even if the bearer is grossly defective.
Dates and locations of usage are important, I know that.

Honestly, I often can see any 'real' variety in a stamp, even if it is not mentioned in the catalogue.

I found some gross ones on the numeral Issues of 1882-1894 (also the watermarked Issue of 1906).
I would never dream nor dear to annihilate a defective stamp bearing an un-quoted variety, even though I would feel like to do so :-) LOL (I can't stand defects caused by hinges, such as thins or tears, more or less complicated, on the medium upper portion of reverse and short perforations on the upper margin, in the perforated Issues).

All the best!

Paolo (bloody and beyond any limit addicted true stamp "expert" -- I shall abound of quotes this time, as I was not talking about Italy and Italian States! ;-))

P.S. on next Friday I will attend Veronafil 2007 in Italy (In Verona, Veneto). I will be there from Friday to Sunday. See you there, but be careful, I may appear a little nasty, as a common rule, and unpredictable!
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 77 ) on May-21-07 at 14:13:35 PDT   Listings
Roger Taking a laptop out of the travel bag seems to be a variable requirement around the world. Probably more than 50% don't require it, so unless there is a sign telling me otherwise it stays in the bag. The requirement to turn it on doesn't happen that often, except when I left Colombia a few months ago with 2 laptops (don't ask:-)) I had to turn both on.
cheers
Peter
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 14:10:07 PDT   Listings
NOIPā€¦ Yet another off-topic postā€¦

Something I have never seen beforeā€”a baby raven. (One never sees baby pigeons either.) This one was down in the yard, and when I went out to give it some leftover cat food the parents began screaming at me from the cedar tree. Someone else was also very interestedā€¦

Jim
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-21-07 at 13:51:43 PDT   Listings
I've never been asked to remove my computer from its travel bag, but have been asked to unzip it which only takes a second or so. I've heard others say they were asked to actually turn it on but that's never happened to me.
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-21-07 at 13:42:28 PDT   Listings
For all my touting Apple/Macs, one thing I do notice at work is the high percentage of travelers who use Mac laptops. One of these days I'll figure out a way I can get other screeners to help me count the numbers of different laptops going through our check point. We are not a business travel high spot, but the number of travelers with computers is amazing. And still we get people who seem to think they don't need to remove their computers from their travel bag unless asked. It sometimes makes me wonder how some people even get online or get their computers started.

Roger
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-21-07 at 13:33:34 PDT   Listings
It is not up to me to define the simplest of conventions, there are large groups doing it and it is pretty much agreed upon throughout the industry. Unless I have a good reason to differ I just follow their recommendations like the sheep that I am. When I write code I prefer it reach the largest possible audience which includes Firefox users, a rapidly growing portion of net users.

You are correct that most are IE users but their market share is shrinking.
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 13:23:32 PDT   Listings
That would be nice if there were any such thing as ā€œthe simplest of conventionsā€. Do you mean in terms of the browser most people use? Then youā€™d be out in the cold. For the browser that can read and decipher html that others canā€™t? Iā€™d vote for that one, but doubt that you would.

Itā€™s natural that someone would prefer everyone else did things the way they do them. For me however that isnā€™t a useful way to go. If you canā€™t see my salutation in color, I donā€™t see any reason to change it. Most people can see it just fine, regardless of how it might or might not fit within anyoneā€™s idea of the ā€œsimplest of conventionsā€.

ā˜ŗ

No hard feelings, we just have radically different points of view. I wouldnā€™t dream of trying to win you (or anyone) over to mine.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 13:12:24 PDT   Listings
Rojrā€¦ Ey igreeā€”u spelchuker wud saiv u lott uv greef.

Jim
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-21-07 at 13:10:20 PDT   Listings
Roger...I pretty much agree with you. I think most folks have their own spell checker nowadays, or they should. For chats one should just stick to the basics IMO unless they really know what they are doing. As has been pointed out different browsers see things differently and sticking to the simplest of conventions makes things easier.

For example, jaywild sometimes uses crimson lettering by embedding it into an HTML font tag in hexadecimal. Firefox does not then render the font in crimson but IE does.
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-21-07 at 13:03:50 PDT   Listings
BTW - A spell checker would be the greatest thing for this Board. I mean I really try to type correctly,but when I see what comes up, I tink t myself, waaat the heckk.

LOL

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-21-07 at 13:01:58 PDT   Listings
David -

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that this Chat really doesn't need a practice Board, unless one is trying to do something fancy like Jim Lawler's post. Then one only needs to check the "fancy" html. There is no need to to include or etc, as they are automatic. NoW I'm used to this Board it is very easy compared to all the o;ld posts one had to create. Richard's Board is the same as this, I think. Mauro's Board was diferent enough fo rme that it just lead to frustration trying to make psots that didn't require reposting after seeing what that Baord did with the initial post. I'm not very flexible when it comes to "rules". They are either strict rules, or not rules, and that is what makes this Board wierd.

Roger
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-21-07 at 12:38:17 PDT   Listings
jaywild...Sorry for the confusion. The person who wrote that board is named Jay. I've known him for years. We worked on the images/HTML board for a couple years helping newbies to figure out how to do auctions.
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 12:32:55 PDT   Listings
NOIPā€¦ New discoveryā€”EKU for a spray cancel.

ā˜ŗ

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 12:28:47 PDT   Listings
NOIPā€¦ The ā€œsearchā€ function seems to be very sluggish this morning, with auctions taking a very long time to open up.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 12:27:09 PDT   Listings
Jeez, howā€™d it get to be my boardā€¦?

Jim
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-21-07 at 12:21:44 PDT   Listings
malolo...You are correct that it really shouldn't be necessary for anyone familiar with this chat to use a practice board. But, you are doing a disservice to direct anyone to Jay's Practice Board for the purpose of formating for this chat because, as you mentioned, it is indeed a true HTML board and does not enter the linefeed command when you hit enter as does the board I linked to.

If you enter a post with paragraph breaks on Jay's Practice Board and then copy the resulting HTML to this chat the paragraphs will not be what you want.
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 12:10:27 PDT   Listings
Rogerā€¦ OK, thanks, that makes sense.

Yes, it is nice to see Dave F. who I am soon to meet in the flesh, and Sheryll, Michel & Colin the Worshipful on the board today.

Jim
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-21-07 at 11:56:23 PDT   Listings
Aloha -

I had to check my bookmark. For a second I thought I'd clicked on the Chat archivebookmark, but no, we're here in a Live World! Welcome back Dave, it's good to see you here, and as always, good morning Michel.

jaywild - I use your first practice board and it is set up for regular html. Anything I want to see, including when I tested auction descriptions etc, worked. There is no point in using the practice board for this Chat as this Chat is mostly WYSISYG, just insert the html for links to images.

Roger
Posted by xzephyr   ( 981 ) on May-21-07 at 10:50:31 PDT   Listings
Philatarium

Nice to see you posting Dave, Keep well and prosper, along with the Kobans!

Colin

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-21-07 at 07:27:35 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

Particularly Michel.


Now we have run through the numbers, do we start on the alphabet again?
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-21-07 at 07:26:18 PDT   Listings
Miche Nice to see you. WHat's up?
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on May-21-07 at 07:19:19 PDT   Listings
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3624 ) on May-21-07 at 06:49:36 PDT   Listings

UNCOMMON FESTIVAL SUBJECT but nice alliteration.

Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-21-07 at 05:47:37 PDT   Listings
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Here's how to post a LINK. Thanks.



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Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 04:59:47 PDT   Listings
NOIPā€¦ The seller of this keeps offering it in the ā€œUnited States Postal Historyā€ category, over and over. I havenā€™t the heart to tell him weā€™ve abolished the monarchy.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 946 ) on May-21-07 at 04:42:52 PDT   Listings
Rogerā€¦ Thanks as always for your insight. Yes, now I do remember that funny tail that used to follow your name around! Alsoā€”my posts should display a slightly different font, which is verdana. I use it only because it appears larger to me on the board, whose default is Arial/Helvetica (10 pt for me, not 12) which is the problem that we were all discussing when eBay did its latest ā€œimprovementsā€ to the board.

The ā€œtable within a tableā€ is actually a chatboard post copied verbatim from the source code of the chatboard. (Here is an example, using ant-raā€™s recent post.) If you plunk that code down into this practice board, and your browser is IE, it will look just exactly the way it does on the chatboard, borders, colors and everything in proper position. Using stamphickā€™s Practice Board however it doesnā€™t, at least if one is using IE.

Jim
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1331 ) on May-21-07 at 04:16:13 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all



For text part or my posts I specify the font, with a < & then FONT FACE = "Times New Romanā€ & a space, then SIZE = ā€œ4ā€ and the >. No spaces, an ā€œ&ā€ or ā€œthenā€ or ā€œa spaceā€ For a long time I used size 3, but then Live world made some changes and reduced the end resulting size which I considered hard to read. I'm trying to get 12 point font. The size three is to small and the size four seems a bit large.
The ā€œGreetingsā€ part of my post is size 7 with the font specified as Times New Roman. Each color change requires ending the color before starting the next color. I used an older piece of software to create the effect.

Jim L.

member

Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-21-07 at 02:46:35 PDT   Listings
Well it italicized, bolded and centered, because I didn't think to use the closes. Hee. hee.ME, myself and
I

Duh!

Rogerc
I recently looked back at the archived website of this chat when my computer randomly added letters to the end of my name. That was Live World, as it stopped happening one day and has never return. I must have gained immunity.
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-21-07 at 02:40:56 PDT   Listings
Aloha -
I'm back from work and so as to clarify my earlier psot about the images. I could click on th ehttp: part of the link and see the image. It was my impression that the use of [IMG} was an attempt to show the image heree on the chat baord, thus my attempt at help. If I wanted to post an image here I would start with - I don't post images here so use - http: blah blah blah .jpg.

I could see the images but the links were screwed up. This board works best if ne just types away not even thinking HTML until one wishes to post an image, or show emphasis by using , or or
, etc. Or finally the best of all a link to an image somewhere in the world using

BTW - All posts on this board appear as 12 pt Helvetica. The only person's code which overrides my preferences are Jim Lawler's post which is always much larger size and a serifed font. All the rest are sans-serif, no matter what you are doing.

Jaywild's table within a table didn't work as to size, or spacing, since it includes "<script language="JavaScript">" . I don't believe we peons are allowed to post Java Script,so I don't think the browsers have anything to do with the appearance. (I may be wrong, but that will be the first time in recent memory.) )'>)

I posted this just to start a debate on Monday morning. I wonder if Live World has any idea of the issues on their Chat Boards. Keep in mind some ebay chat boards don't allow any HTML, so we are lucky, don't abuse the privilege.

Roger
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 631 ) on May-21-07 at 00:04:24 PDT   Listings
The EUSC meeting is officially over. Thanks to all that contributed to the topic. If anyone else has anything else they would like to post regarding currency/stamps, please do so.

Mitchell