eBay chatboard archive: May-07-07 to May-13-07 week

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 22:59:02 PDT   Listings
Peter Well put!
The world is getting smaller, the catalogs need to catch up.
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-13-07 at 22:58:24 PDT   Listings
dcderoo, try using the signup form on the web page to send me the new email info. I'll look for it both in my normal email and my spam folder, since it looks like some have been going there lately. :-(
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 22:26:18 PDT   Listings
Mitch

I think the large gap between CV in older Scott cat and CV in older Mich Cat might be a good indicator of the potential increase in Scott CV for non-US stamps.


PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 21:42:50 PDT   Listings
PC You guessed right! An old friend of the board just emailed me and stated the 2007 Scott value was $120 hinged. WOW, quite a jump in two years (nearly 300%)
Wouldn't it be nice to have foresight?
Posted by jaywild   ( 940 ) on May-13-07 at 20:15:21 PDT   Listings
dcderoo… Show me a scan of the back of your grilled stamp and I will tell you whether or not it is a Z-grill. Make it about twice as big as the front view you posted a link to. They are pretty easy to spot, if you know what you are looking for.

Jim
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1664 ) on May-13-07 at 20:08:34 PDT   Listings
antonius-ra, I believe what has happened is that one of the past administrators changed my e-mail address in the mailing list, but not in the EUSC listing.
I got the announcement today about the topic(s) for the next meeting. I assume that's the announcement you are referring to.
And as far as I know, my old ISP doesn't exist anymore.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 20:00:21 PDT   Listings
Mitch

I'm aware of those inflated CV on some listings.

I only have the Scott 2000 specialized catalog.


PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 19:52:59 PDT   Listings
Peter Do not believe all the cat values you see being flashed around in auctions.
The term BS is alive and well on ebay.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 19:50:44 PDT   Listings
Peter Thanks, but I'm not much concerned with what anyone thinks or assumes what cat values "might be". I just would like to know the correct valuations from the catalogs in question.
Bulgaria 1932 set of 3 airmails (junkers plane over rila monastery)
I already have the stamps, I just thought it was curious that the values seemed to be so out of place with my most current catalog.

PC, have you yet got a Scott U.S specialized catalog or a Micarelli? If not I hope you will, do so, soon.
Questioning PF certs is not something anyone is likely to venture into here. You have to get the sources and read read read.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 19:48:35 PDT   Listings
Mitch

I guess someone in here will have the Mich cat. From what I have seen so far from the listings, Mi CV for used - EUR 180 and Mi CV for mint - EUR 320

PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 19:36:02 PDT   Listings
Peter Yes, I assumed the Michel cat was quite high as compared with Scott.
That is why I asked if anyone could please give me the Michel value????
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 19:32:15 PDT   Listings
Mitch

I believe Scott has adjusted the value of that set in the newer cat.

PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 19:29:02 PDT   Listings
Dc Can I assume you recieved the club annoucement today via email? If so perhaps you have a really good forwarding from your previous provider?

All EUSC members please update your current info by going to our site. Also please forward any new email addresses you may have to me (via ebay mail system)

As I said previously, all returned or blocked emails to member addresses will be deleted from the list we have.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 19:26:46 PDT   Listings
Mitch

I don't have the Scott cat. But it seems that Mi CV is quite high on this set (used and mint) based on the stated Mi CV in some of the listings.

PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 19:22:33 PDT   Listings
Mitch

One of the listings states the value for the set as Mich CV as EUR 320


PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 19:20:21 PDT   Listings
Peter "It seems" the Scott cat is $120?
Do you have a 2007 Scott cat for Bulgaria?
I only have a 2005 and it is 3 X $14 = $42
That's a pretty good jump for two years?!?!?
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 19:14:57 PDT   Listings
Mitch

Just send you an email for some C12-C14 listings. It seems that the Scott CV is $120 for mint set.


PC
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1664 ) on May-13-07 at 19:09:46 PDT   Listings
I find it interesting that my e-maill address as listed in the EUSC is on the order of 5-6 years out of date.
But I seem to get all the EUSC announcements, so my current address is correct somewhere.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 18:59:06 PDT   Listings
Peter I just won a set with C1-4 included for $37.00. I had bid on several sets and was always outbid before. If you look at the ebay stores they are all priced over $100.00 although Scott cats them at $42.00. One guy has a unused set (no gum) priced at $110.00.
I was just wondering what the Michel cat values them at, as Scott seems to be way off or there are a lot of dreamers out there.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 18:51:29 PDT   Listings
Mitch

Are you looking for the used set or mint set of the airmail?


PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 18:51:23 PDT   Listings
Peter Yep, those are the ones! Quite interesting, I wonder what sheets of NH CTO's of those will go for???
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 18:47:41 PDT   Listings
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Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 18:46:23 PDT   Listings
Bill(wrd3)

Thanks. It looks like the S234 so I guess it is quite common.


PC
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1664 ) on May-13-07 at 18:46:05 PDT   Listings
Just remembered. NAPEX is coming up in about 3 weeks. I can take it there and get a good opinion.

It was bought at a live auction 10-15 years ago.
I got there late and didn't preview the lots I was interested in.
This items was listed as some entirely different stamp that catalogued for about $50 at the time.
I get it home and go to put it in my album and noticed it wasn't a 2 cent stamp I thought I had bid on.
I offered to return it but the owner said it was from his collection and wouldn't ask for it back.
If it had been someone else's consignment then he would have asked for it back.

One of those strange stories.

Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on May-13-07 at 18:41:13 PDT   Listings
peterc8888 on Friday you asked if the perfin pattern SPS is common in Parcel Post stamps. It depends on which SPS pattern you mean - there are 4 (Patterns S231, S232, S233 and S234). According to what I've seen published, S234 is known in Q1-Q5, Q10 and Q12. The other SPS patterns are not listed as being found in Parcel Post stamps.

Bill D.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1664 ) on May-13-07 at 18:34:13 PDT   Listings
jaywild, thanks for the confirmation. I was a bit chagrined at the thought that I may have botched the ID on that stamp.

One group I have to go over thoroughly is my Washington-Franklins. I wasn't very careful when I bought a lot of them.

But the one I really need confirmation on is my Scott #85E.
I looked at this stamp a half dozen times and I still come up with a Z grill.
But I need someone a lot better than me to confirm it.

Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 18:27:38 PDT   Listings
Mitch

I did a search on the airmail. MI 249-251.
These are the stamps you're looking for

PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 18:17:48 PDT   Listings
Paul OK, I thought youw ere speaking of single stamps. I did not know who your/our favorite seller was.

Anyone Bulgaria Can someone please give me the Michel cat value on the Bulgarian 1932 set of 3 airmail stamps (scott c12-14). I finally got a set but the competition is pretty tough on these. Many sellers have buy it now for many times the Scott cat value.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 18:17:12 PDT   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

I was hoping no one will notice the double transfer. :-(


PC
Posted by jaywild   ( 940 ) on May-13-07 at 18:05:58 PDT   Listings
Peter C… It sure looks like a double transfer to me.

Jim Lawler... Did you get my email? I forgot to add S/H and when I paid with PayPal. Send me your address and I will send stamps or cash along.

I usually pay for lots right away, otherwise I forget, or have to try and figure out what I paid for and what I haven’t. Much easier to pay immediately and be done with it.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 940 ) on May-13-07 at 18:01:03 PDT   Listings
dcderoo… Your Scott 9 is correctly identified. I can’t tell the exact position number, but it has been recut at least once on both top and bottom. It may also have been recut a second time at top, I can’t see the line directly above US POSTAGE clearly enough to see whether it has been reworked. But rest assured it is a valid #9.

Jim
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1307 ) on May-13-07 at 18:00:07 PDT   Listings
Jim (jaywild),
Just left you feedback. That’s the fastest payment yet for me.
I'm off to pack your lot so it can go out tomorrow with one of the Jamestown stamps at the new rate.

Jim L.

member

Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 17:58:00 PDT   Listings
Is this the US Scott#O41 Double Transfer of left side variety?


PC
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-13-07 at 17:21:27 PDT   Listings
Paul,

Yes, I agree. I was at the monthly Phoenix stamp bourse last Sunday. There are about a dozen dealers, but they are selling country collections, MNH sets, covers and supplies. There is one dealer with about 20 albums to pick through. But for the average collector it's either too much or too specific.

One also needs to be organized. If you go to the bourse with a list you can do OK, but just browsing is difficult and inefficient. eBay allows searches and you can spend as much time as you want on each auction listing.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-13-07 at 17:07:08 PDT   Listings
MATT Thanks

What I was trying to say is ,what you stated that there is a huge market out there that a few sellers like David B. and a few others have identified and know how to market too.

Far to often the philatelic press and bigger stamp firms fail to service this vast market place and many collectors can actively market their unwanted material profitable to others ....paul

Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-13-07 at 16:50:27 PDT   Listings
Paul,

I agree with your comments. In addition I believe there are many, many collectors that previously had no access to any stamps. They don't subscribe to philatelic publications, they don't travel to stamp shows or belong to clubs.

But the internet (and eBay) has made it easy to sit at home and study the listings. There are still loads of empty spaces to fill. My experience is that many beginner/intermediate collectors strive to fill spaces and go for the lower priced items first.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-13-07 at 16:49:19 PDT   Listings
MITCH-----Your missing the point ......you need to read it again .......we were talking about selling a group or selection of a few dozen or a stock card full ....not a single stamp.....
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 16:39:11 PDT   Listings
Peter People often use that clock (in a different window) when hand sniping.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 16:35:29 PDT   Listings
Mitch

Thanks. I have not noticed that ebay official time link until now.


PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 16:31:56 PDT   Listings
Peter As far as I know, "official ebay time" is listed at the bottom left of every single ebay page.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 16:26:21 PDT   Listings
Geeez, I'm speechless.
I guess if you charge a dollar shipping for each 18 cent stamp you might be able to make minimum wage after listing, final value and paypal fees.
There is another site that does not have any fees, much of what is listed are minimum value stamps. Works pretty good there but it will end up costing you on ebay.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-13-07 at 16:13:53 PDT   Listings
JUST WHAT I SAID -------A week or two past someone was discussing the low value of a lot of common stamps .

So I brought up the point that a lot of the stamps which many of us use to buy at two cents each is now selling at much higher prices on e-bay if they were presented in the proper way .I used the example of 100 Saar stamps or 100 Danzig stamps but there were many stamps that can get even better prices .

Well today looking at everyones favorite seller who posts here .Notice he has few different selections of low value stamps doing very well with good active bidding .So it just confirms that cheaper material put in the right selection does realise a decent price for the seller .Remember these were stamps that years ago would be found in the two cents boxes or on the approval sheets for a few pennies and now can return 10 cents to 18 cents a piece if presented and sold on e-bay .

This ability to sell the cheaper and duplicates stamps by the collector/dealer will also mean that it frees up capital to purchase the better stamps .It also means the prices for collection lots and bulk lots would increase in price at the auction houses because of the aviablity of e-bay to sell off what doesn't fit or not needed to increase the size of ones collecting interest .

So it is safe to say" a raising tide lifts all boats " .......paul

Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-13-07 at 15:56:20 PDT   Listings
Mitch(antonius-ra)

What does ebay time mean? I hope it means PDT.


PC
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 357 ) on May-13-07 at 15:15:30 PDT   Listings
NINE -- 9 --
This is a 14 December 1922 Registered cover, franked 9d, from PUTNEY 9 with Registration Label No. 19.
Addressed to Lugarno, Switzerland, it has an arrival datestamp on the reverse of 16 December.
(can you get a Registered Letter from London to Switzerland in 2 days now?)

Linda
with thanks to Vic, again!

Posted by infla-alec   ( 531 ) on May-13-07 at 14:53:52 PDT   Listings
DC Thanks will try a scan posting link later in the week. Too late now and bed time for me here.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-13-07 at 14:22:47 PDT   Listings
Mitchell

Yep, the first part is the same on all my email addresses.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 14:19:40 PDT   Listings
JWS The one on the list was for speedexpress. I've changed it but am not sure if the first part of the address is correct?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-13-07 at 14:14:48 PDT   Listings
Mitch Haven't seen any emails either, I think the one on the mass mailing list must be wrong, use the one you know works.
Cheers
Peter
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1664 ) on May-13-07 at 14:08:50 PDT   Listings
infla-alec, US Government stock transfer stamps as a rule have their value cut in half by being perfin.
I can't address state revenues.
Posted by joanie8481   ( 58 ) on May-13-07 at 14:05:42 PDT   Listings

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Posted by dcderoo   ( 1664 ) on May-13-07 at 13:57:34 PDT   Listings
Jim (jaywild), your image of the Scott 9 caused me to look at my image.
I think I have a problem.
My supposed Sc 9

NOIP: Here is an image of two Ryukyu postal cards.
They are the same, but the cancellations are different.
Ryukyu postal cards
My question is about the order of the numbers in the date.
The left one with the Japanese(?) cancel is "Year.Month.Day".
The right one with the US(?) cancel is "Day.Month.Year".
Is this the correct order for each type, or is something amiss?

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-13-07 at 13:48:38 PDT   Listings
Mitchell

I'm not getting emails either.
It should be sbcglobal.net.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 13:38:38 PDT   Listings
I'd like to welcome a new member to the EUSC.
Lloyd de Vries aka LloydStamps

Alec In 8 years I don't recall ever getting a meeting notice either.
I have added your email address to the list.


Posted by jaywild   ( 940 ) on May-13-07 at 13:10:02 PDT   Listings
9…

Here is a US Scott #9. This position is the only one on the plate (out of 200 subjects) that shows a break in the bottom line. Scott lists this position separately, with a doubling in value. On my example the break is just beginning.

There is also a bluish smudge through the NE of ONE at bottom and extending below it. This is the result of a plate bruise, roughness or corrosion that holds ink even after the plate is wiped. It is a definitive identifier for this position.

Jim
Posted by knuden   ( 2268 ) on May-13-07 at 13:02:56 PDT   Listings
Today I got the message, I won this pearl. It's a Registered uprated Austrian Postal wrapper sent from Prague 1894 via New York to Hampton, New Brunswick, Canada. It will fit well into my Prague cancel collection. :O)

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on May-13-07 at 12:39:36 PDT   Listings
Allan & Matt

Is This the NZ post info you are wanting?
If not go to the root URL and follow some of their other links and I am sure you will find what you are looking for.
Cheers

Roly

Posted by infla-alec   ( 531 ) on May-13-07 at 12:29:32 PDT   Listings
Can you US collectors please tell me if Stock Transfer stamps are worth listing with perfins ? Have a handful but as yet still very unsure about US stamps. A couple are New York State and another couple are documentary stock tax with perfins and overprint, or is it better to show a scan link ? If scan is needed can do so but need to make a space to park the images first.

Mitch I have never received any e-mails from anyone at any time since joining the Eusc. I need to check wether that e-mail is current and will let you know.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 12:09:17 PDT   Listings

Announcement


E U S C
Ebay Users Stamp Club Meeting

Will commence Saturday May 19th at 8:00 a.m. ebay time.


The meetings topic will consider the many relationships between stamps and currency.
Currency on stamps, stamps on currency, stamps used for currency, printing techniques, similar designs etc etc etc


I hope everyone can think of something interesting to contribute.


Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-13-07 at 12:08:52 PDT   Listings
Oh, that is just splendid. Should be May of course.
I just did a mass mailing to members to announce the meeting. Unfortunately I learned that I cannot send more than 20 emails at a time so I had to send over 25 with the wrong date. Well I havn't the time to redoo it so hopefully people will figure it out.

All returned email address will be deleted from my list. If you did not recieve an announcement let me know so you can be added to the list. There must be several people not n the list as my name was not even on it.
Posted by karlhh   ( 1012 ) on May-13-07 at 12:00:08 PDT   Listings
antonius-ra's next message will involve the new penalty fee compounded by the minute for being late to a meeting .
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-13-07 at 11:35:28 PDT   Listings
Mitch errrrrrrrrr which date:-)
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-13-07 at 09:08:23 PDT   Listings
No suit pictures.

How about a nine.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3588 ) on May-13-07 at 08:40:05 PDT   Listings

Where's the IO in the suit???

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-13-07 at 07:41:14 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

As promised, some wedding pictures.

The ceremony.

Family

The food line.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-13-07 at 07:02:51 PDT   Listings
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Posted by jaywild   ( 940 ) on May-13-07 at 07:01:14 PDT   Listings
sayasan… Wow—interesting story about the Zouaves. They belonged to an earlier era, when the style of warfare was much different and men would stand in ranks and shoot at each other. In those days the uniform was a source of identity and pride, but by the time of the Civil War and the advent of modern methods of killing (i.e. repeating rifles and rifled artillery) war was something conducted from entrenchments or behind barricades. In such an environment the bright red pantaloons and billowy blouses of the Zouaves made excellent targets. Especially the red could be seen through the smoke of battle, and the Zouaves were slaughtered like animals.

More discouraging is that the folly of wearing bright clothing to war was still was not impressed on the French by the time World War I came around, when brilliantly dressed Zouaves were thrown into battle with the same horrible result. It only slowly evolved in the minds of tacticians that clothes that call gaudy attention to themselves have no useful place on a modern battlefield.

Jim
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-13-07 at 06:48:49 PDT   Listings
Allan,

re: NZ rates to Australia

I have some NZ references but couldn't answer your question. I could take a good guess but let's wait for that side of the world to join us. I have 3 of the 'Stamps of NZ' references, but not Vol 1 that contains the rates.

I was unable to find any internet references either. If somebody does know of a website with NZ postal rate history I would appreciate the info!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-13-07 at 06:26:59 PDT   Listings
Maarten You have my sympathy at a difficult time. Hope we can see you here again soon.

New week, new theme for 9, One of the difficult stamps for GB collectors SG195 9d dull green of 1883 whacked on the nose as well.



cheers
Peter



Posted by sayasan   ( 645 ) on May-13-07 at 04:56:12 PDT   Listings
Maarten - my sympathies on your sad loss.

jaywild The 9th New York was Hawkins' Zouaves, named for the colonel, Rush Hawkins. So the addressee is most likely a family member. The unit id might give the item a small boost - Civil war militaria collectors go ape for zouave items. "Zouave" means that they wore a fashionably quasi-oriental uniform, patterned after French colonial regiments. Hawkins' recruits were largely teenagers from the tougher areas of New York city. Some of them are recorded as shaving their heads and cutting patriotic designs into the stubble. Plus ca change ...

Posted by aj-gory   ( 174 ) on May-13-07 at 04:07:46 PDT   Listings
Can any chat board person tell me the NZ surface rate to Australia, 1 March 1933. Many Thanks Allan
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1307 ) on May-13-07 at 03:29:47 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all



Jim L.

member
Posted by trianglemaarten   ( 190 ) on May-13-07 at 01:42:45 PDT   Listings
ALL
Thank you for all the encouraging and comforting words. It helps, it really does. You're a great bunch. I will also try to listen to Lindy and good old malolo Roger and post here on a more regular basis.
And if anyone has a spare Jamestown-sheet ......

Maarten
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 357 ) on May-12-07 at 23:35:55 PDT   Listings
Servos, Max !

Matt, and don't you just love his reference to the perfect centering of that Graf Zeppelin, as if it matters !!

Linda
Posted by sammlermax1   ( 865 ) on May-12-07 at 22:51:44 PDT   Listings
Good morning all from the nice Austria.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-12-07 at 22:15:16 PDT   Listings
Jim,

Same seller, C18

Matt in Arizona
Posted by jaywild   ( 940 ) on May-12-07 at 22:08:04 PDT   Listings
Matt… Silly me!



Jim
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-12-07 at 21:56:39 PDT   Listings
Jim,

Perhaps the key is in the definition of 'confederate', as as opposed to CSA?

From dictionary.com = "4. an accomplice, esp. in a mischievous or criminal act. "

Matt in Arizona

Posted by jaywild   ( 940 ) on May-12-07 at 21:47:43 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Let’s see…

This cover was sent from Lt. Col. Wilson of the 9th Regiment, New York Volunteers, and sent to a Miss Hawkins in New Jersey, and features a patriotic Union cachet, of a woman draped in the Stars and Stripes, and yet the seller says it is a Confederate cover.

Where is briguy when we need him??

Jim
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-12-07 at 21:39:47 PDT   Listings
And I quote: "they do not look used except for the cancell marks." Hence the category.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by 22028   ( 1605 ) on May-12-07 at 21:23:28 PDT   Listings
Maarten, please accept my condolence and sympathy for you and your family.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-12-07 at 18:57:16 PDT   Listings
Maarten: add me to the long list of condolences.

Jamestown: I was able to get a pane today, but only one, after visiting two post offices. I had harbored ambitions of getting some FDCs done at Jamestown, Ohio, but that's too far away (down by Cincinnati. Unfortunately for me, I have to go to Cincinnati twice on business this coming week).

APS election....we're up to 25 votes or so. Keep in mind, this is for the EUSC chapter vote. It is not a substitute for your regular ballot if you are are an APS member! (and if you're not an APS member, but you are an EUSC member, it's your chance to have input anyway). I note that the May 21 issue of Linn's, which reached my house today, includes some campaign advertising as well as editorial content.

APS Election
Here's the candidate listing. All EUSC members can vote, whether or not you are an APS member (I believe that to be correct and am verifying). My suggestion is to cut and paste the candidate list into an email, and then simply delete the names you are not selecting.
Email your votes (or abstentions) to me at mliebson@gmail.com no later than MAY 24, 2007. I am leaving lead time to get any necessary signatures on the final paperwork.
For those seeking additional information, statements are available from the APS website here. The Virtual Stamp Club has an election website here, which includes links to websites for some candidates and also a link to the VSC chat board, where the election has been extensively discussed. The May issue of the American Philatelist includes both the candidate statements and candidate advertisements.

President (vote for one, one to be elected)
Nicholas G. Carter
Ken Lawrence

Board of Vice Presidents (vote for one team, one team of three to be elected)
Nancy B. Clark, Robert E. Lamb, Jeffrey N. Shapiro
Steven Jeffrey Rod, Wade Edgar Saadi, David Lee Straight

Secretary (vote for one, one to be elected)
Wayne Youngblood
Steve Zwillinger

Treasurer (vote for one, one to be elected)
Thomas F. Allen
W. Danforth Walker

Director at Large (vote for up to four candidates, four to be elected)
Michael D. Dixon
Joann Lenz
Peter D. Martin
Robert P. Odenweller
Denise L. Stotts
Kent M. Wilson

APRL Trustee (vote for one)
John B. Flannery
Rob Haeseler
Posted by jaywild   ( 940 ) on May-12-07 at 18:07:01 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Well, some dumb schlub bought this thinking it was a genuine #79. He’s probably gloating over the fact that he only paid $117.50 for a stamp whose CV is $1350.

Some bulbs are dim, others are burned out completely.



Jim
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3588 ) on May-12-07 at 16:52:37 PDT   Listings

2 MORE JAMESTOWN FDCs I HAD SENT TO MY HOME ADDRESS

bob-in-wa I like your initiative

Jeff

Posted by rclwa   ( 964 ) on May-12-07 at 16:37:33 PDT   Listings
Maarten -- Sincere condolences on your loss. How very unusual, the triple significance of the same date.

I got to the P.O. later than usual yesterday, to find I had been unaware (mostly due to lack of computer time) it was the first day of the Jamestown triangle stamp. I bought two sheets, and hurredly went home and prepared some FDC's in time to get that day's postmark on them. Unfortunately I couldn't lay my hands on Maarten's address (can't access my computer) soon enough to send a direct mailing to him on the first day, but I will send something later.

Today is further significant in USPS. Last day of the old rates, and first day of the 26c Florida panther stamp, to be used for postcard rate starting monday. This is only the second 26c stamp ever issued by the US, the other being an airmail commem depicting Mt Rushmore, some decades back.

I put together quite a few modern postal history covers today, including last day of the 52c rate for nonstandard 1-oz (square or oversize) using 41c forevers or Jamestown plus 11c additional. I also prepared two 3-oz mailings, requiring 87c postage, which I franked with a single Breast Cancer semipostal good for 39c. They were stamped postage due 48c, and Monday when they return with roller cancels of today's date, I'll pay the 48c with a 41c Breast Cancer (same stamp, now different value) plus 7c more! I've done this the past two rate changes, and have accumulated a nice little series for the non-denominated semi-postal specialist. Contrived, yes, but uninteresting, I think not.

For any not aware, there are MAJOR changes in the way USPS will look at mail, as Matt has mentioned below (and perhaps others I missed.) Anything not conforming in size and shape to a strict regimen will be promoted from letter to package status, with increased postage costs. If you do a lot of mailing of anything other than standard letter size missives, do check the new rules. It's much more than just a rate change!

Still computer deprived and running by the library to post and catch up. But each time I save this to a flash memory stick, to read some day, I hope.

Bob in WA

Posted by hungaryjim   ( 894 ) on May-12-07 at 15:42:08 PDT   Listings
Hi All For Maarten, Sorry to hear of your loss and wish to express my condolence and sympathy for you and your family. Peace be with you.

On a lighter note, I see now that the USPS has finally done something that should help protect sellers dealing with overseas bidders now. Although they have raised the cost of a REGISTERED Letter, you can now select a much higher insurance or indemity protection instead of the measly $40 or so dollars they had in the past. Of course this also comes with an additional fee!

Jimbo2
Posted by infla-alec   ( 531 ) on May-12-07 at 15:34:01 PDT   Listings
Terry and Linda Thanks. I'll put in my to list one day / trading box. Funny how such box's always seem to grow and never get any smaller.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 357 ) on May-12-07 at 15:17:48 PDT   Listings
Alec your seal is an English 19th C. Stamp Duty, which was attached to a legal document with a small metal clip (a kind of staple). Here is a 1874 Apprentice Indenture which hangs on my study wall, and here a close up of the Stamp Duty paid at Dudley. 2shillings / 6 pence.
My main collecting interest is Royal Doulton China. This indenture is for a young man to work at Doulton’s as a Carpenter. It bears the signature of Henry (later Sir Henry) Doulton, which is why I bought it.
Interesting to read, Carpenter, 7 years apprenticeship, and part of his conditions include……During which Term the said Apprentice serve his Masters faithfully, serve their secrets, keep their lawful commands every where gladly do, he shall do no damage to his said Masters nor see to be done of other but to his power shall tell or forthwith give warning to his said Masters of the same..he shall not waste the goods of his said Masters nor lend them unlawfully to any he shall not commit fornication or contract Matrimony within the said Term, shall not play at Cards or Dice Tables or any other unlawful Games whereby his said Masters. He shall neither buy nor sell he shall not haunt Taverns or Playhouses nor absent himself from his said Masters service overnight unlawfully. But in all things as a faithful Apprentice he shall behave himself ---------
All that for fourshillings and sixpence per week during the first year, up to 11/6 for the 7th year !


On that I doubt you could afford to play cards or get married!!!

Maarten I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I did want you to come back to posting on the board, but not with such sad news. I hope over the next few months you will find time and inclination to become a regular here again.

Linda
Posted by thines   ( 1477 ) on May-12-07 at 15:13:21 PDT   Listings
Hey, were'd my message go?

I'd said that these British revenues are very much collected and that there is a three volume catalog of them, from, I think, in the 1970s.

Terry Hines

Posted by thines   ( 1477 ) on May-12-07 at 15:11:48 PDT   Listings
Alec,Terence Hines
Posted by infla-alec   ( 531 ) on May-12-07 at 14:36:40 PDT   Listings
Help Can anyone please tell me what this GB item is? Reverse can be seen here I'm assuming some sort of revenue but are such things collectable and of any value ? I also don't understand why what appears to be a tiny piece of silver enamel still stuck to the front. Any ideas ?
One other interesting thing I came across today was a Ceylon ship ticket ? Check out the on deck comment. Sure hope it wasn't a long journey.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1307 ) on May-12-07 at 14:18:00 PDT   Listings
postalhysteria & iomoon
Nice work. It’s good to see that at least some Post Offices have gotten the stamps out as announced.

Phil
Thanks for reminding me that there are places were it is worse. It’s easy to forget the good one has when looking over the fence at the greener grass.

Jim L.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-12-07 at 14:10:31 PDT   Listings
Aloha Roger!

Your 'guess' sounds reasonable.

It's the bending with 40 pounds of pressure (?) around a tightly curving piece of postal machinery that sounds scary for stamps and covers.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-12-07 at 13:57:20 PDT   Listings
Matt -

The whole group of requirements is a response to eBay stamp sellers who place a single stamp in an oversize envelope, enclose half a cereal box for stiffening, and wraps the whole thing in a plastic trash bag for weatherproofing. They then address the "envelope" so the short sides are top and bottom.

That's my guess.

Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-12-07 at 13:50:08 PDT   Listings
Off to wedding.
BBL if still coherent.
Otherwise tomorrow with photos of the event.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-12-07 at 13:40:26 PDT   Listings
New USA Postage Rates & Rules...

I was reviewing the new DMM and found some noteworthy items:

over 6-1/8" x 11-1/2" (either dimension) goes to the new Flats Rate, and wonder what 'e' is all about:


1.2 Nonmachinable Criteria
A letter-size piece is nonmachinable (see 6.4) if it has one or more of the following characteristics (see 601.1.4 to determine the length, height, top, and bottom of a mailpiece):

a. Has an aspect ratio (length divided by height) of less than 1.3 or more than 2.5.
b. Is polybagged, polywrapped, or enclosed in any plastic material.
c. Has clasps, strings, buttons, or similar closure devices.
d. Contains items such as pens, pencils, or loose keys or coins that cause the thickness of the mailpiece to be uneven (see 601.11.18, Odd-Shaped Items in Paper Envelopes).
e. Is too rigid (does not bend easily when subjected to a transport belt tension of 40 pounds around an 11-inch diameter turn).
f. For pieces more than 4-1/4 inches high or 6 inches long, the thickness is less than 0.009 inch.
g. Has a delivery address parallel to the shorter dimension of the mailpiece.
h. Is a self-mailer with a folded edge perpendicular to the address if the piece is not folded and secured according to 201.3.13.1.
i. Booklet-type pieces with the bound edge (spine) along the shorter dimension of the piece or at the top, unless prepared according to 201.3.13.


Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-12-07 at 13:35:53 PDT   Listings
Jim (Jaywild)

re: Solo Liberty

Thanks! Yes, I think it is a nice piece all around. Got it from a postcard dealer.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-12-07 at 12:27:52 PDT   Listings
Matt in AZ… Nice solo 5¢ Liberty!

Jim
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-12-07 at 12:22:09 PDT   Listings
Has anyone else noticed th elarge sizes f images linked within auctions. I just looked at some pretty ordinary postal card. There were six cards shown font and back, total size of the 6 images = 1.5MB.

Now I've got cable and find it extremely fast, but recently web page designers - including eBay - have forgotten not everyone has the highest speed, largest screens, or T-17 connections. eBay has started to bog down when loading search result pages, and guess what we get to see at the top, "International Currency Investment" banners. I guess it's a good fit. eBay figures there are too many people out there looking fo rth epot of gold, others think they have it, and eBay is collecting the listing fees, etc. Someone must think we want to out guess the money markets in international currency trading. I think I'll buy postal history and throw my money away that way. At least my contribution is to many individuals liek myself rather than corporations who have completed computer studies to determine the amount they can fleece from the public.

Roger
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-12-07 at 12:03:46 PDT   Listings
How Times Change...

Airmail NYC to LA

Times Square 1963

This fairly common picture postcard from 1963 struck me as interesting. It is a shot of Times Square in New York City, addressed to Cliffwood Drive (Two Blocks North of Sunset), Los Angeles. You can see the need for Zip Codes!

Also the card mentions the "gayest of night life". Probably would be worded differently today! (or maybe not...)

Matt in Arizona
Posted by bjornmu   ( 919 ) on May-12-07 at 11:53:57 PDT   Listings
Maarten, my sincere condolences to you and your family!

lluehhhb Milenko, if you're listening, thanks a lot for the surprise in yesterday's mail! Nice items.
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-12-07 at 11:43:47 PDT   Listings
What were we smoking in 2003? LOL
I can't imagine anyone being upset about the topics being discussed, or taking anything posted here seriously.

We've come a long way, the coffee must be getting better.

Roger
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-12-07 at 11:42:56 PDT   Listings
Roly… I went around today looking for Jamestown stamps—the word is no one in LA will have them for a week. I had a cover all ready to send to you.



Jim
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-12-07 at 11:23:32 PDT   Listings
Claghorn,

That actually worked!! Thanks!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-12-07 at 11:18:01 PDT   Listings
Maarten My heartfelt condolences.

Matt in Arizona you can often get old likns to work here:

http://www.archive.org/index.php

Forgery Identification Site

Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-12-07 at 11:13:02 PDT   Listings
Maarten -
Condolences on your loss.

Notice how all these FDC's have their stamp stuck on correctly, not a single one is upside down by mistake. Maybe that's a reason for making triangular stamps, everyone knows the pointy end goes up.

Please come back and communicate here. We miss your off topic discussions on scotch.

Roger
Posted by keleofa   ( 3438 ) on May-12-07 at 11:07:09 PDT   Listings
Japanese Calendar Conversion...

The link I had to convert Japanese old style calendar dates (ie 38.6.23 = 1905?) no longer works. Anyone have a link to an exact date Japanese calendar converter?

T I A.


Maarten - Very sorry to hear about the loss of your father.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by abt1950   ( 225 ) on May-12-07 at 11:01:51 PDT   Listings
Maarten, Let me add my condolences to you and your family. Losing a parent is always hard. The wordl is never quite the same again.

Anne
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-12-07 at 11:01:20 PDT   Listings
Jeff

Your mailperson was quicker then mine.
But here is the first, first day cover for Alpine, Texas.
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-12-07 at 10:47:38 PDT   Listings
jim_lawler My local (main) PO hasn't had 39¢ comms for about two monthe; the last being those motorcycle stamps. Just flags & snowflakes, No, they do not have the 41¢ comms either!
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-12-07 at 10:44:02 PDT   Listings
Maarten My deepest condolences as well.

I've heard clergy say."A man isn't a man until his father passes over". Now all of the little decisions are yours and yours alone. All will turn out just fine.

Phil
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3586 ) on May-12-07 at 10:35:28 PDT   Listings

2 of my Jamestown FDCs from yesterday, POINTLESS BUT FUN

Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-12-07 at 10:04:00 PDT   Listings
Maarten I'd like to add my condolences to the others here. It's always hardest to lose a family member.

On a similar note Ernie Vetter passed away last Tuesday. Anyone who has been involved in the philatelic scene around the Portland area for the last many years will remember Ernie and his trademark vest full of stamp related pins.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-12-07 at 08:01:12 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

Maarten

Let me add my condolences to those of others.
I hope your wife and son are both well, it is traumatic for a young man to lose his grandfather.

On a brighter note, going to the wedding of one of my students this evening. When she is not in class she is the local barber. She has being wistfully eyeing my hair for years. There have been over 400 invitations to the wedding which will be quite an affair, held at "The Post".
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1618 ) on May-12-07 at 07:47:27 PDT   Listings
Maarten, My sympathies a well.
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-12-07 at 07:40:18 PDT   Listings
Maarten… I am sorry to hear about your father. For a long time you will think of him as still with you—for years after my father died, I would hear something interesting and think, “I’ll bet Dad will get a kick out of this.” He will still be with you, and you will keep remembering things about him you have not thought of for many years.

Jim
Posted by jackstay79   ( 0 ) on May-12-07 at 07:32:22 PDT   Listings
Maarten---So saddened to hear of your father's passing. My deepest and most sincere condolences.

Bill B.

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1305 ) on May-12-07 at 07:12:59 PDT   Listings
I did manage to get some of the Jamestown stamps at the local (county seat) Post Office today. But they had to go and get them out of the safe as none had been issued to any of the window clerks.

The lack of a bar code caused a few moments of consternation behind the counter, but they did get it to work out.

An additional frustration this morning is that they no longer had any current rate - 39 cents - commemoratives.

Some days I sure do miss living in a larger metropolitan area.

Jim L.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 459 ) on May-12-07 at 07:04:28 PDT   Listings
its those little apartment sized mailboxes that are the drawback. if the postman could fit a stamp album into one of those mailboxes my problem would be solved! lol
Posted by vinnysf   ( 459 ) on May-12-07 at 07:02:40 PDT   Listings
triangle sorry to hear about your loss...keep a smile on your face cause it would look funny any other place! oh, and i got a few mint random african triangle stamps you can have if you want 'em. i think they're from centraficaine (spelling?) and a dahomey and a few others..i'll scan em if you're interested
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Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-12-07 at 04:21:57 PDT   Listings
MAARTEN ---Condolences on the loss of your dad ...paul
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1305 ) on May-12-07 at 02:09:10 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


Maartin (trianglemaarten)

Sorry to hear the bad news. Condolences & my deepest sympathy on the loss of your Dad.


Jim L.

member
Posted by infla-alec   ( 531 ) on May-12-07 at 01:22:37 PDT   Listings
Maarten My deepest sympathy also on the loss of your father. Remember him for all the great times you had together. May he rest in peace !
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 91 ) on May-12-07 at 01:03:33 PDT   Listings
Maarten - So sorry to hear about your dad. My thoughts are with you.

Sheryll
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-12-07 at 00:20:27 PDT   Listings
Maarten,

condolences on your loss,

David B.
Posted by trianglemaarten   ( 190 ) on May-12-07 at 00:09:46 PDT   Listings
All
I wasn't around this Board lately.
Apart from the fact that I was sick and tired of the fights here, by far the main reason was the condition of my dad.
Last week he passed away (on the birthday of both my mother and my son) and yesterday was his funeral.

I had an email from iomoon regarding the new US issue of triangular stamps. I completely forgot that was coming up so I made no arrangements to get me the stamps, sheet, covers or anything. I'm very grateful Jim was able to achieve a handstamped cover.
If anyone else here walks into interesting EFO's, covers or a sheet of these, I'll be most grateful if they remember me and my triangles.....

Thanks
Maarten
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on May-11-07 at 23:30:53 PDT   Listings
Mitchell ............... done
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-11-07 at 23:19:03 PDT   Listings
Roly That is an old address (havn't changed the mepage cuz ebay wants me to jump through to many hoops to do so). Email me through the the ebag system.
If I post my email address here I'll probably get signed up for a bunch more sleeze sites like what happened last time, i did.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on May-11-07 at 22:58:18 PDT   Listings
Mitchell
I sent an email to the address at the top of your "ME" page.
Hope you get it
Cheers

Roly
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1305 ) on May-11-07 at 22:44:34 PDT   Listings
RE: Package delivery

I've had my mail carrier stop at the office to deliver a package addressed to my home. She saw my car parked there.

I've also had her get out of her car to leave a package on my porch in a sheltered place.

She's a jewel. :8^ )

Jim L.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-11-07 at 22:31:46 PDT   Listings
Roly I have not your address yet? Gettin late and I like to sleep late.
ASAP would be good.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-11-07 at 22:28:38 PDT   Listings
Vinny How sad? Guess there might be some drawbacks for city-livin.
My mailman (Tony) had to drive down my driveway,
knock on my door and wait a couple minutes (before I could get off the throne). He gave me the registered letter from Chile (Milenko) and then we talked for about 8 minutes about the weather and dogs and he went on his merry way.
(how's that for a rambling sentence)?
Posted by vinnysf   ( 459 ) on May-11-07 at 21:57:50 PDT   Listings
i recently found out that the mailman is only required to go up one flight of stairs to deliver a package. meaning if you live on the 3rd floor (like i do) he doesn't have to deliver your package. he can leave a slip in your mailbox so you have to go downtown and pick it up at the main station the next day!!! is this the case in anyone elses area?
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on May-11-07 at 21:54:16 PDT   Listings
Darn Michell and I thought I was being subtle :)
Looks like I have been "outed" but I lay the blame fairly and squarely at Maarten's feet. He got me hooked on triangels, really, he did, swear it, honest truth .......
Cheers, IWEY

Roly (the not so subtle apparently)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-11-07 at 21:33:50 PDT   Listings
Roly Is that a, not so subtle, hint?

If I have the where-with-all, I'll try and make it down to the P.O. before they close at noon, tomorrow. I would be happy to send you a used (on cover) and mint single. If you send me your address I will try and get a first day CDS
off to you. (no guarantee as I doubt my P.O even has any), but I will try. <:~`)

P.S. It is a really cool looking stamp! Why have they been teasing us with it for at least a year? I've nearly lost interest.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on May-11-07 at 19:33:24 PDT   Listings
or should that be

To: Jeff
From: Roly (still a closet trianglr collector)

. . . . :)
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1305 ) on May-11-07 at 19:33:02 PDT   Listings
postalhysteria

Linn’s has today listed as the First Day of Sale and it is supposedly a nationwide thing. BUT, Rushville has the stamp, but won’t sell it until tomorrow. :8^(

I’m debating filling out a complaint form, but don’t know if that would get them to backdate for FDC’s.

The bad part is I may not be able to get to the Post Office tomorrow before they close.


Jim L.

member

Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on May-11-07 at 19:30:09 PDT   Listings
To: IO
From: Roly (who also is a closet triangle collector)

:) :) :)

Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-11-07 at 19:26:49 PDT   Listings
Io… I don’t think they had any. All the clerks were busy, but when I asked one they all shook their heads.

Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-11-07 at 18:58:27 PDT   Listings
Jim

Does that mean they sold out or didn't get them?
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-11-07 at 18:00:28 PDT   Listings
NOIP… No Jamestown stamps at my P.O.—



Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 357 ) on May-11-07 at 17:55:44 PDT   Listings
of course, if they are peel and sticks, will they still stick in 2 yrs time or will he need to spend $4.39 of his profit on glue???
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-11-07 at 17:38:40 PDT   Listings
Jeff

If buyer doesn't use them and prices rise 2 cents in 2 years buyer will have "made" $24.39 off the USPS.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3586 ) on May-11-07 at 16:57:08 PDT   Listings

NOIP Yesterday a PO clerk told me he had a customer who purchased $500 of Forever stamps as an investment

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3586 ) on May-11-07 at 16:37:24 PDT   Listings

Hi IO<P>I bought 4 sheets just cause I will use them on mailings. I sent a few to myself via some pseudo business mailing IDs I use for my commems collection. One buyer in UK will be geting a similar mailing to the one you mentioned.

Shucks, thought I had got one over on them ...

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-11-07 at 15:24:13 PDT   Listings
Jeff

Yes, but it seems postal employees do not read their own in-house bulletin and steadfastly refuse to sell them till tomorrow.I counted 186 sheets (3,720 stamps) being sold today to less than 10 posters to the VSC.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 357 ) on May-11-07 at 15:18:34 PDT   Listings
welllll, Jim I hope someone in the Netherlands likes his triangles enough to come in and say HI to the board. Have not seen him post here in ages!

If you are reading, HI, Maarten!

Linda
Posted by 1covers   ( 1344 ) on May-11-07 at 15:10:59 PDT   Listings
Danish 8 s.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3586 ) on May-11-07 at 15:03:03 PDT   Listings

Ah, so their sale today was standard (supposed to be) at all POs.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-11-07 at 14:52:26 PDT   Listings
Sheesh,

judging by the messages on the VSC, people are buying out their PO's of all of their Jamestown stamps on the first day of issue.

With only 3 million sheets being produced (60 million stamps) that's one stamp for every fifth person of the US.

And I've already used three.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-11-07 at 14:06:00 PDT   Listings
I forgot to add, I managed to get them both hand-cancelled.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-11-07 at 14:02:03 PDT   Listings
Jeff

At first my PO refused to sell me a sheet until tomorrow, then relented and sold me one.
Soooo someone in the Netherlands will probably receive next week the first ever first day cover from Alpine, Texas with a legitimate usage of 2 Jamestown triangle stamps plus 2 cents.
Plus, hopefully I will receive from myself a FDC of a as yet to be legitimate usage.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-11-07 at 13:57:13 PDT   Listings
A page with a lot of eights from the China Year Book 1987



cheers
Peter


Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3586 ) on May-11-07 at 13:42:41 PDT   Listings

I jsut bought the new Jamestown triangle stamp at my PO today. Today is the official release date. is it not an early release for an ordinary PO?

Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on May-11-07 at 13:42:38 PDT   Listings
peterc8888 I'm not near my reference material, and I leave early this afternoon for a Boy Scout camping trip. I can look up whether SPS is known in Parcel Post stamps and what it's scarcity rating is, after the campout. If I don't answer by Sunday evening please repost the question and I'll answer.

Bill D.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-11-07 at 13:29:46 PDT   Listings
Bill(wrd3)

Thanks for the explanation. I'm just wondering why that Q10 went for so much. Do you know whether perfin SPS is common on Parcel Post stamp?

PC
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on May-11-07 at 11:31:23 PDT   Listings
peterc8888 in general stamps with perfins are viewed as damaged by most collectors and are worth less than the same stamp without perfins. There are several perfin collectors who have specialized collections of perfins in Parcel Post stamps. If a scarce perfin pattern were found in Parcel Post stamp, those collectors would probably bid up the price of the stamp, but unless it were a low CV stamp it probably wouldn't be worth more than a stamp without perfins .... unless it were an A rated perfin, where many perfin collectors would be after it.

I don't have my catalog handy, but the WU patterns are generally not scarce (there are many different patterns associated with various offices).

Bill D.
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-11-07 at 10:26:29 PDT   Listings
Peter C… Perfins aren’t automatically worth more. Some are more valuable than others. The Parcel Post stamp you showed was pretty poorly centered.

daleandju... If you know how much was spent to acquire the stamps in your collection, you will have a very good idea what it is worth value-wise. Most “inherited” collections are of the hobby sort, where people collected stamps that came in the mail, or bought small packets of foreign stamps in department or hobby stores. These collections were put together for the fun of it, and are generally not worth very much. There is no online source for valuing stamps, but you might want to browse through the eBay categories and look for some of the stamps you have to get an idea what they are going for. For example, this search shows completed listing for “old Australia” stamps. As you can see, unless the stamps are specialty items they don’t go for much. (The figures in green represent stamps that sold; the ones in red didn’t sell.)

Also, check out the Big Yellow Box a few posts down, and search through the link “For New Collectors”.

Jim
Posted by daleandju   ( 4 )   on May-11-07 at 09:54:47 PDT   Listings
i just inherited stamp books. for example, one page is full of 1890 postal stamps, and 1893. also, an 1857 red postage stamp. and 1861, and independent public of compressed of 50 states.. Lincoln to wright.. alot of foreign countries stamps. Germany, Australia..etc..the list goes on and on. also have complete books of stamps 1968 france, etc etc...

need help.

what kind of catalog.. worth of stamps. etc.

alot of stamps that are not postal, like Disney 1947 pooh bear.

Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-11-07 at 09:42:35 PDT   Listings
The winner of the 1992 Columbus reprints almost win the 1893 $1 and $2.

$1 and $2 Columbus


PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-11-07 at 09:38:21 PDT   Listings
Do US parcel post stamps Q1 - Q12 worth more with perfins?
Q10 with perfin


PC
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-11-07 at 08:12:43 PDT   Listings
How could anyone with even a hint of knowledge think that ZULULAND overprint is genuine. If P.T. were alive today he would have uttered something along the lines of, " A sucker is born every nanosecond!" Or possibly gigasecond, etc.

Gather all those common GB Vickies and buy a handtamp and you're in business. BTW, almost ALL Zululand stamps with an ESHOWE double circle cancel are either CTO or remainders.

Phil who also is fond of mortadell.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 459 ) on May-11-07 at 05:50:28 PDT   Listings
19cents happens to me all the time...lol
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1305 ) on May-11-07 at 03:17:32 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all



Jim L.

member
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-10-07 at 22:48:20 PDT   Listings
Barnum was wrong,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Zululand-c1888-1p-Unlisted-Overprint-Used_W0QQitemZ150120921417QQihZ005QQcategoryZ263QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

David B.
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 183 ) on May-10-07 at 22:41:41 PDT   Listings
Nevermind
I just double checked the perfs, I got so excited I just couldn't wait to ask a silly question. Thanks anyway.
crawling back uner my rock way up in the bleachers Lynn
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 183 ) on May-10-07 at 22:23:32 PDT   Listings
Washington-Franklin savvy types (experts)
Is this, could this possibly be a 596?
TIA Lynn
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-10-07 at 21:59:21 PDT   Listings
Mitchell, just received a nice care package today. Thanks!
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Posted by lavart   ( 1347 ) on May-10-07 at 21:04:46 PDT   Listings
Thanks to those who commented on the items I posted a couple days ago. The Sweden to US cover with the Seapost seals is rare because of the seapost seals. These seals are discussed in chapter 5 of Jim Kotanchik's book Post Office Seals of the United States and Possessions. There are two other covers known with this type of seal. A great rarity.

The card with the Nur fur Marine Schiffspost is rare because it was used to the Netherlands instead of to Germany. German sailors were upset at having to pay international rates for mail sent back home, so Germany established a concessionary rate for this type of mail, making it the same as German domestic rates (5 pf for cards). The postal card shown was sold for 5pf, even though it's "face value" was 10pf without the overprint. I have never seen one of the overprinted "Nur fur" cards used to a foreign destination before acquiring the card shown. It should have been charged postage due but was not.

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-10-07 at 19:35:19 PDT   Listings
Just added a couple new items from Belgium to my collection.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1305 ) on May-10-07 at 19:28:25 PDT   Listings

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Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-10-07 at 19:13:44 PDT   Listings
Paul Why don't you just scan your fake ones and real ones together so we can see. Front and back of course.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-10-07 at 18:47:39 PDT   Listings
Paul, it is only the perfs. on those, the difference is very minute and is to do with the sharpness of the pins, not the gauge although I believe there is a slight variance. Possibly the variance was caused by the quantity of sheets perfed at the same time, who knows (and who cares) as there are more definite ways of telling,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-10-07 at 18:36:06 PDT   Listings
That's not right -------if you put a original next to a forgery the first thing that would stand out is the difference in perforation ,but the measurement would confirm it also ,the transparence in the paper helps {but that can also be played .I'll use all three methods together.No one method should be used ,its too easy to work around it for the forgers
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-10-07 at 18:35:59 PDT   Listings
APS election: 12 EUSC members have voted so far. I have 2 more "proxy" votes. I just sent out the email to the EUSC mailing list. If you are an EUSC member and did NOT get an email from me this evening, would you please let me know? There were a series of bounce messages, some based on spam filters, others on quotas, and others on fatal errors.
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-10-07 at 18:31:47 PDT   Listings
Paolo -
You make me very envious. There is much to be found in accumulations such as yours. I'll only make one suggestion since you mentioned Standing Helvetia. Check this page from the American Helvetia Philatelic Society.
http://swiss-stamps.us/Tell.htm

Click on the pdf download for January 1991. A collector wrote a "simple guide" to identifying the different varieties in a simple visual manner. The next issue has a good continuation )'>)

The subject index will also be very useful to you on this page:
http://www.swiss-stamps.org/
"tables of contents for the 1975-2005 issues in .pdf format."

Search for "Standing", more than one evening's read. LOL

Have fun. BTW - I have not discovered such a horde in Hawaii, and have a gut feeling I won't.

Roger
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-10-07 at 18:29:24 PDT   Listings
P.S. Re: REPRINTS: of exceptional philatelic (traditional) importance, beyond any limit and smashing any philatelic exhibit,would be the reprint that was drawn from the original palte of 200 of the Naples 1858 50 grana!
Preferablbly in the full sheet (yeah, right! ;-))
There is a vaste retouch at a certain position in the reprinted sheet which is ONLY known from the reprints!
According to the greatest philatelic authority of all times on all the fields of the world, which IS Dr. Emilio Diena, one day this variety could be found on one of the Issued copies.
This is one of my targets, like I believe it was of the infortuantely late Dr. Chiavarello. I always keep an eye out for it, but the printing was so limited of this denomination (just some thousands copies) and the over-affiliated and certified PSEUDO-experts abound so much to entaglke the situation, to make this almost as a "mission impossible". I like challanges of this kind, though! ;-)

All the best,
Paolo
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-10-07 at 18:16:34 PDT   Listings
Rich, I thought they would, they looked OK, the genuine are more finely printed as the ink impressed sharply onto the thin paper whilst on the forgeries the ink spead on the thicker wove paper although they are difficult to tell from scans, they are easier to tell in the flesh,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-10-07 at 18:13:30 PDT   Listings
Paul, forget the perfs., it is the paper, if you can see the design from the back they should be OK, if you can't then they are bad,

David B.
Posted by rich-in-pa   ( 205 ) on May-10-07 at 18:11:06 PDT   Listings
David,
They all pass the measurement test. The paper does too.
Paul,
I understood David's post.On top of the measurements he put genuine. forgery. Thanks for your info also.
Neither of those methods was the one I used.
Rich
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-10-07 at 18:03:13 PDT   Listings
RICH-------David gave you the correct info but he should of said ---the genuine is the first measurement given .The forgeries have cleaner perforations than the ones printed by Van der Sant,de Villiers & co,Capetown who were the printers .
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-10-07 at 17:54:20 PDT   Listings
Rich,

The test in Robson Lowe is the length of the words of value,

genuine. forgery

1d. 13.5mm. 12.5mm.
3d. 14.5mm. 13.5mm.
4d. 15mm. 13.5mm.
6d. 17mm. also 17mm. paper quality varies
1s. 17mm. 15mm.

David B.

Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-10-07 at 17:41:11 PDT   Listings
Reprints are named so those things drawn from ORIGINAL DIES or clichés.
Try to memorize this; all the rest that doesn't fulfill this requirement is either CRAP or totally new Issues like the Columbus Contemporary Issue!!!
Reproductions of the original clichés were often obtained with the photo-lithographic process, in order to print in quantity -- to fulfill the needs of the collectors of the time by scrounges -- IMO -- like Jean de Sperati, Oneglia, Moens, Fournier, Senf etc, etc.).
Here is one example, one of the uncomplete (fortuantely) of the so-called Cohn -- or Berlin -- "reprints" of the 20 c. indigo of the IVth Issue of Sardinia;
he obtained it in lithography in circa 1870 (less that 20 years after the original Issue):
here
Herer is a GENUINE sheet of 50 for comparison (I do NOT have the imperf. , way too expensive for me or may not exist anymore)
with genuine perforation comb down the sheet 11.5 x 12:
here

Paolo
Posted by rich-in-pa   ( 205 ) on May-10-07 at 17:30:57 PDT   Listings
I hate HTML
Posted by rich-in-pa   ( 205 ) on May-10-07 at 17:29:41 PDT   Listings
D2...Hi David,Here's the With my knowledge, I believe these to be genuine. I do however trust your knowledge,so your opimion is always appreciated.
Rich
Posted by rich-in-pa   ( 205 ) on May-10-07 at 17:22:36 PDT   Listings
D2...Hi David,Here's the Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucketstellaland.With my knowledge, I believe these to be genuine. I do however trust your knowledge,so your opimion is always appreciated.
Rich
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-10-07 at 16:59:47 PDT   Listings
Linda

I believe others have discussed why the 1992 issues are reprints. I remember I actually learned them as reprints in this board too.


PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-10-07 at 16:54:37 PDT   Listings
knuden

I believe I have not thank you for the post on the 5c Prexie Solo Usage cover. I was hoping that it may worth something so I can spend a dollar or two for it. :-)


PC
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 120 ) on May-10-07 at 16:45:48 PDT   Listings
Jimbo (and Jaywild too), I happened to check in with my favorite computer guru on a work related issue, and so I asked him about Norton's and McAfee, and alternate choices.

He told me that those two, in the Home versions, are incredible resource hogs, slowing down computers, as you already know. He ranked Norton's as the better of the two, but with both having serious problems. The business versions, he feels, are much better for speed but I don't think he loads Norton on the machines he builds, although he did in the past, as a free six month trial offer.

Unfortunately I really didn't get his recommendation of a substitute, but it wasn't Grisoft or Zone Labs, a couple alternatives worth investigating (for anybody out there who's looking). We went on to discuss the work related issues and didn't get back to the antivirus discussion.

As far as slowing down the computer is concerned, mine handles Norton's quite well, so no worries, but my machine was assembled for speed, for gaming.

I've also got a spare video card like yours, the AGP GeForce 5200 (Light Version) which turned out to be a really good card. I used it for a few weeks as a substitute when my primary video card was down, and it handled a sophisticated military flight game (IL-2 Sturmovik, at that time in about it's third generation version) with ease. All I needed was a fan for my old card, but it took five weeks or more to receive the fan, so the second card came in handy, and it ran so well I kept it as a backup.

Paul, thanks for the financial opinion. It's an area where I sure don't know the answers. I thought, for example, that after the first Iraq war we'd see rampant inflation, so we could pay for the war with cheap dollars.

I had no idea, though, that the US had quietly submitted a bill to the Saudis for the cost, $50 billion, and they paid it!

This time who knows.

Of course, we see glowing reports on the economy, but when over $650 billion dollars has been pumped in for the war, how could we NOT have a good economy? That unpaid bill is lurking in the background so the long term effect might be a lot different than the short term effects, but honestly I just don't know what to think for sure.

Same for the stock market, glowing reports of new highs. But the old highs have only recently surpassed highs from six years ago, that's a long time to wait just to break even!

Also, I might have misunderstood a recent report that said -if I did get it right - that the top 50 fund managers(?) all earned $240 million each or more as income. That's individual pay, not firms. Disregarding the "or more", that's still $120 billion in profits sucked out of the system by just 50 people. Any former Young Turks in that group, do you suppose?

At least we didn't "invest" in mint zepps in 1980. Filling one's shelves with albums and enjoying the chase for stamps in large quantities might have actually turned out to be more than just fun, in comparison.

I'd be more concerned about the whole financial situation if I actually had any money!

-Dunc
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-10-07 at 16:40:32 PDT   Listings
P.S. in the Swiss lot there will be in excess of one hundred thousand stamps in total, with strong repetition of good values (else I wouldn't have opted for it):
I must say, though, I am a little overwhelmed by the quantity!
Catalogue numbers and various annotations on the closed envelopes were made according to the Yvert&Tellier catalogue, so I had to open quite a few (say about 300) before making my choice.
Curiously, the dealer, in some cases, stuck on the outside of the envelopes one representative postage stamp, so to make it simpler to know what is inside.
One of the boxes with the envelopes fell on the ground almost on Minima (the she cat I rescued in Italy) which was 'curiousing' about.
My wife made me put the rest of the stock in the garage!
I look forward I get there, too!

Paolo (the sympathising Swiss junk!)


Paolo
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-10-07 at 16:38:45 PDT   Listings
Jim(iomoon)

For the last few months, all the email notifications are not received in the right order. Most of the time, the emails for the winnings or not winnings had arrived before other notifications email. I have not reported this but it is quite confusing when I bid so many listings.


PC


PC
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-10-07 at 16:09:01 PDT   Listings
Good day all!

Burt (Oggilby),
Many thanks for your kind e-mail offer and sorry for my slow reply. I had some intensive stamp days and all is hectic around here (the cats are not helping me sorting but are bringing in the house May beetles: I salvage the most I can).

Roger,
Good news on the Swiss front: I swapped my Vatican City specialised collection (partly on Lindner and on hand-made pages for the most atrocious varieties) a San Marino collection (not shocking) and a specialised modern Italy collection (post 1961, I have some more, though) for a very nice hoarde of Switzerland postage stamps, up to 1955!
All in little envelopes, the 'collection' came from a dealer in France, with seals dating back to 1940 on some envelopes (it's like breaking in an Egyptian pyramid! LOL)
I valued those collections of mine about 8000 euro, but the dealer valued it 6000. The Swiss lot cost 4000, so I took a free card on his Italian States accumulation, which I had organised myself wityh my written guarantees, and took out at my wish several good pieces (for me).

At the moment I am having a pleasant indigestion of "Stehende Helvetia"!

Best,
Paolo
Posted by 220man   ( 151 ) on May-10-07 at 15:42:40 PDT   Listings
malolo: Don't know what happened, try it again. I did most of my sailing on Puget Sound, mainly around the buoys on weekends. Cruised the sound and up into the Gulf Islands. Phil
Posted by 220man   ( 151 ) on May-10-07 at 15:39:46 PDT   Listings
malolo:


Phil

Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-10-07 at 14:50:20 PDT   Listings
IO -
I get emails all the time from sellers claiming I won auctions from them. I pay up, but its strange I never get positive feedback. This eBay buying takes some getting used to. In fact when I think about it, I haven't received the items either! Now I'm p***ed off thinking about it!@!##$@!% )'>)

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-10-07 at 14:50:19 PDT   Listings
IO -
I get emails all the time from sellers claiming I won auctions from them. I pay up, but its strange I never get positive feedback. This eBay buying takes some getting used to. In fact when I think about it, I haven't received the items either! Now I'm p***ed off thinking about it!@!##$@!% )'>)

Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-10-07 at 14:38:25 PDT   Listings
D2

Shush!

I don't need competition for them.
Prior to today, the last thing I won in a regular auction was in March.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-10-07 at 14:32:11 PDT   Listings
Io,

they are not common and I do not know the history behind the production but presume they were made in the early to late 1920's,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-10-07 at 14:24:30 PDT   Listings
D2

Suspected??????????

I may even bid on that.
It is one of my favorite stamps.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-10-07 at 14:17:51 PDT   Listings
IO,

try this one on for size,

http://cgi.ebay.com/TONGA-REPRODUCTIONS-OF-FAMOUS-1895-2-HAAPAI-MINT_W0QQitemZ160113296020QQihZ006QQcategoryZ3459QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-10-07 at 14:09:44 PDT   Listings
Ooh goody, I actually won something.

I must be too fast.
Received eBay notification of winning it before I had notification of having bid!
I guess it's just a routing problem with different servers.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-10-07 at 12:47:50 PDT   Listings
Jimbo

At least it has "jumbo" margins!! :-)
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-10-07 at 12:43:30 PDT   Listings
IO,
Not only that, it's one heckuva giraffe!

jimbo
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-10-07 at 12:39:44 PDT   Listings
Rats!!
That's what happens when you type </a> rather than </b>.

It does happen to remind me of a story with a moral.

A great lion had found a bull and dined elegantly. The happy lion roared and roared. A nearby hunter heard him and shot him dead with one shot.
The moral of the story (are you ready for this?): When you're full of bull, it's time to shut up!

jimbo
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-10-07 at 12:37:19 PDT   Listings
Huh, this item seems to be a little off colour!!!!
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-10-07 at 12:33:03 PDT   Listings
Peter (greenwave4u),
I've been using hands-on computers since the late 70s. The early ones were supplied by my employer. I had my own from 1981 or so on. I had one which I acquired in 1992 which I kept running for 6 or 7 years. I had replaced everything in it except the case during its lifetime. I don't really want to do that again. And it isn't as easy as it was then. The problems nowadays are software related not hardware.

Time for some 8's:
Gold Coast to Germany sent 08/08/1898.

Germany to Spain sent 08/08/1936. This one was caught in the midst of the Spanish Civil War.

jimbo
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-10-07 at 12:07:05 PDT   Listings
Bob(rclwa)

I kind of remember that you mentioned that you know a seller whom I have transactions with and suggest to me that I wait since that seller seems to have problem once in awhile and his daughter needs to help him with ebay transactions. Just to let you know that he seems to disappear and my transactions have not completed so far.

PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-10-07 at 11:59:21 PDT   Listings
Bob(rclwa)

Both bidders had bidded many listings of different sellers and most of those listings ended with bid which was quite high in my opinion. The winner of the Columbian cover had won many listings. I have noticed both of them recently.


PC
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-10-07 at 11:52:57 PDT   Listings
Rich,

Is there any chance you could show a scan of the Stellaland stamps as there are many forgeries around. Most can be easily told by the measurements of the value tablet and by the paper. The genuine is thin & crispy whilst most of the forgeries are on a heavier wove similar to the later US banknote issue,

David B.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1664 ) on May-10-07 at 11:51:27 PDT   Listings
NOIP: Interesting item.
Don't know if anyone here collects this sort of thing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/U-S-A-1902-ZIEHER-ILLUSTR-STAMPS-P-C-MINT-SUPERB_W0QQitemZ150119205856QQihZ005QQcategoryZ47148QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-10-07 at 11:43:24 PDT   Listings
To keep the eights rolling labuan


JimboThe computer I am using at the moment is the first for a long time I have not"customised" from day one, bought in November last year. This is a dual processor Dell with 2Gb memory and really flies for graphics work, it gets "cleaned" at the end of every day with CC Cleaner and a full virus scan about once a week. I use excel a lot for large workbooks but confess my macro skills are limited:-(

cheers
Peter


Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-10-07 at 11:41:55 PDT   Listings
prochute -
I for one am a member since I think it a good idea to support the National Organization of my hobby. Before you laugh it off, let me explain using another organization.
I belonged to the US Yacht Racing Association for many years. (It has changed its name to US Sailing to be more accessible to those who don't race!) I know of activities created and sponsored by this association with which I agree and some I don't. But on the whole I think learning to sail, then race is a great outdoor life long activity. One can always back off and enjoys a relaxing sail knowing one has the skills to not get in trouble. I maintained my membership for many years during periods of non-sailing just to show my support.

Stamp collecting is similar in my opinion. It is a mental activity which can be continued for many years. Failing eyesight seems to be the only limitation in old age. I support APS for the same reasons I supported sailing. The organization represents my hobby, and it organizes outlets for different interests wihtin the hobby. I may not agree with everything it does at the organization level, but for $35 per year, its OK to show my support. That's the price of one dinner out for heaven's sake!

Roger
Posted by rclwa   ( 964 ) on May-10-07 at 11:36:12 PDT   Listings
Another library fly-by. I noted with interest the modern Columbian cover that went through the roof. I can't imagine paying that kind of money for anything without doing basic research. It's so obviously a modern cover, I can't imagine what the two high bidders were thinking. (Always the possibility one is a shill?!) It IS a nice piece of modern postal history, with high values of stamps seldom used commercially. But I'd think $10 or $15 max would be a reasonable limit. Frankly, if I had put it up for sale and received such a windfall despite careful description, I'd be tempted to email the winner, tell him he's sadly ignorant, and just send $20 plus postage, please. My guilt otherwise wouldn't be worth a few hundred.

I recently picked up a complete set of those (separated) for face on eBay, to use for interesting postage. At Moses Lake there were two sets of sheets available for face. If you ever want one of those 1992 Columbian sets and have opportunity to pick from among a few sets, take the time to check the centering, because it varies considerably. Even aside from the date and the margins, the printing has a different ''look'' to it, and they are very easy to tell apart. I'm sure I could discern two from a cropped portion, excluding the date.

Out of time, gotta run.

Bob in WA
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-10-07 at 11:26:20 PDT   Listings
For those who are members, why are you a member? Is it the AP, APRL, stamp circuits, APEX or the stamp store. As I have said before, for me it is the APRL.

If you are a member for political reasons then you may as well cast your pearls before swine.
Posted by luxmark   ( 359 ) on May-10-07 at 10:53:21 PDT   Listings
I am beginning to be (or is it continuing to be) progressively more disallusioned with the APS after being a member for multidecades. I have just received my letter from the treasurer-want-to-be, and must conclude that, if I were to listen to the comments, neither president-want-to-be are worthy of my vote. I think that I more or less stated that on VSC. Does anyone else wish to vote no for president of APS, or am I just a sourpuss (Americanism for having a bad disposition)?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-10-07 at 10:04:22 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

We haven't had an 8 for a while sooooo Ascension
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-10-07 at 10:00:33 PDT   Listings
Peter,
I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's been painful. I'm still struggling trying to do some of the other things I must do like rewriting a retail end-of-day program with lots of macros from Lotus 123 to Excel. It keeps me from reinstalling the applications on the new program. I'll get there soon, I hope.

jimbo

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-10-07 at 07:24:55 PDT   Listings
Jimbo I enjoyed reading your computer saga and can sympathise very well with everything you say, especially with regard to Norton which I have finally dumped. Oh for the good old days when all we had was a basic operating system and no viruses, spam, phishing and all that cr.. Just like working on old cars that was fun and enjoyed rebuilding my MGB from almost scratch. These days I just lift the bonnet on my BMW, scratch my head and put it down quickly:-)
Peter
Posted by rich-in-pa   ( 205 ) on May-10-07 at 05:44:23 PDT   Listings
prochute...Thank You.
Rich
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-10-07 at 05:27:39 PDT   Listings
rich-in-pa 2007 SG gives Stellaland #1-5 mint £209, Sierra Leone #111 mint £250 and Somaliland #O12 £180.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1305 ) on May-10-07 at 04:06:32 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all



Jim L.

member

Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-10-07 at 03:02:13 PDT   Listings
Jim: yes. The chapter counts as a single vote.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on May-09-07 at 22:08:55 PDT   Listings
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Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-09-07 at 20:44:09 PDT   Listings
iomoon...Each APS affiliated club gets one vote, yes. But then each member of the club who is also an APS member gets a vote.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-09-07 at 20:34:20 PDT   Listings
WINDS OF CHANGE This election for the leadership of the A.P.S. is different . There is a basic philosophical difference between groups and I will be the first to say that after the election these differences will surface .

Im sure no members are making decisions based on what I say but you can be sure its not going to be back to the usual after the election and everybody is going to shake hands and go home .

My prediction is that nobody is going to quit or run .They will look at how to get together with like minded members and put their activities toward a like minded group ......paul

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-09-07 at 20:02:57 PDT   Listings
Matt in Ohio

Let me get this straight.
The eUSC has only one vote in the election at APS, in spite of the fact that there are numerous eUSC members?
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-09-07 at 19:38:32 PDT   Listings
Roly… Yes, the cover came through without a scratch.

Jim
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1305 ) on May-09-07 at 19:28:00 PDT   Listings

Jim L.

member
Posted by rolyrj   ( 4 ) on May-09-07 at 19:23:48 PDT   Listings
Jim

You are very welcome. Glad the mail got through .....
Did the envelope survive with the aeronautical theme of stamps? I tried to place them so that they would (hopefully) not get too bashed up in the mail.
Cheers

Roly


Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-09-07 at 18:59:39 PDT   Listings
Apparently I didn't learn anything from my prior cut and paste experience.

APS website here. The Virtual Stamp Club has an election website here.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-09-07 at 18:58:35 PDT   Listings
APS Election
Here's the candidate listing. All EUSC members can vote, whether or not you are an APS member (I believe that to be correct and am verifying). My suggestion is to cut and paste the candidate list into an email, and then simply delete the names you are not selecting.
Email your votes (or abstentions) to me at mliebson@gmail.com no later than MAY 24, 2007. I am leaving lead time to get any necessary signatures on the final paperwork.
For those seeking additional information, statements are available from the APS website http://stamps.org/Election/Candidates.htm>here. The Virtual Stamp Club has an election website http://www.virtualstampclub.com/APSelection07.htm>here, which includes links to websites for some candidates and also a link to the VSC chat board, where the election has been extensively discussed. [If there are other online locations where the election has been a subject of discussion, I am happy to add them to the resource list here]. The May issue of the American Philatelist includes both the candidate statements and candidate advertisements.

President (vote for one, one to be elected)
Nicholas G. Carter
Ken Lawrence

Board of Vice Presidents (vote for one team, one team of three to be elected)
Nancy B. Clark, Robert E. Lamb, Jeffrey N. Shapiro
Steven Jeffrey Rod, Wade Edgar Saadi, David Lee Straight

Secretary (vote for one, one to be elected)
Wayne Youngblood
Steve Zwillinger

Treasurer (vote for one, one to be elected)
Thomas F. Allen
W. Danforth Walker

Director at Large (vote for up to four candidates, four to be elected)
Michael D. Dixon
Joann Lenz
Peter D. Martin
Robert P. Odenweller
Denise L. Stotts
Kent M. Wilson

APRL Trustee (vote for one)
John B. Flannery
Rob Haeseler

Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-09-07 at 18:42:52 PDT   Listings
d2: who ever said chat boards were democratic? VSC is, and has been, actively moderated. The Frajola board can be moderated, and on rare occasions is (including by me). I don't like it when VSC shuts threads down, but those who run the venue make their own rules, as do all venues.

APS election: I'll repeat the election message in a bit, but to raise a point. Infla-Alec asked about having me vote for him by proxy. One other member has asked me to do the same. I am not particularly comfortable with that, at least to the extent we wind up in a situation where my exercising proxy votes would change a result. So my inclination is to only exercise proxy rights if by doing so I am not changing a decision.
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-09-07 at 18:38:11 PDT   Listings
nomad55… Yes, that was my point. They are known as reprints, but do not meet the usual standard. i.e. that they were printed from the original plates.

Jim
Posted by rich-in-pa   ( 205 ) on May-09-07 at 18:18:34 PDT   Listings
Could anyone with a 2007 SG give me values for Stellaland #1-5 mint,Sierra Leone #111 mint and Somaliland #O12.
Rich
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-09-07 at 18:14:43 PDT   Listings
DUNCAN------Look for the bonds to rally after the report .
Posted by nomad55   ( 886 ) on May-09-07 at 17:46:41 PDT   Listings
jaywild...the 1875 reprints were created for display at the Centennial Expo in Philadelphia. New plates were used as the old ones either could not be found or were destroyed. Since the plates were newly engraved, there are design differences that distinguish #3 and #4 from #1 and #2.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8184 ) on May-09-07 at 17:37:27 PDT   Listings
This is an interesting comment,

whatever happened to democracy,

From: drgilson 5:31 pm
To: Lloyd (LLOYDSTAMPS) unread (130 of 130)

26194.130 in reply to 26194.126

Lloyd - Unless you close this thread, it's probably just going to keep going on and on and on .... Amongst all the bombast are little kernals of information. It's just too bad we have to wade through so much chaff to glean them.

We closed the "illegals" thread, but said we would reopen discussions when Ken produced the APS educational materials. Is there an equivalent milestone (other than the election results) that can be applied to this thread?

Dennis

Posted by ace250winnie   ( 2 )   on May-09-07 at 17:24:08 PDT   Listings
screw ebay
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-09-07 at 17:14:00 PDT   Listings
Duncan Doenitz,
You may or may not find this interesting. It's what's bugging me these days. I'm still having bad, bad experience with my computer(s). A Saga of Computer Frustration in three parts. It's probably long and boring and too technical but I am living it. I have continued bad karma with Norton and all its relations.

jimbo (and, yes, it was I who had the previous long winded problem with Norton System Works 2007.)

Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-09-07 at 17:08:04 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Today I received a very nice birthday present from Roly down under. (It is oriented so the date can be read most easily.) It is a Penny Universal with an Oct 5 1905 cancel. I am informed that this is a booklet type, with top and side pearls re-engraved (blue arrows) and also seems to have the “4 o’clock” plate flaw (yellow arrow).



Thanks from dry, dusty, fire-blown Los Angeles!

Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-09-07 at 16:04:39 PDT   Listings
Linda

I don't get to relax yet.
Finals start Friday.
With that I have no problem.:-)

It's grading them that is the problem :-(.
Posted by figmente   ( 887 ) on May-09-07 at 15:50:20 PDT   Listings
lavart - could it be that the Bremen Seepost New York seal was previously described as "only 2 known"


re. Columbus item - I seem to recall reports a while back of a fragment with one of the Pan-American invert reissues reaching 4 figures on ebay.

Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-09-07 at 15:40:21 PDT   Listings
NOIP… My understanding is that a reprint and a reissue on a souvenir sheet probably fall into different categories. The 1875 versions of the first two US postage stamps are known as reprints although they were printed from entirely different plates from the originals. But that’s just my experience, which is admittedly spotty regarding modern issues.

Jim
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 357 ) on May-09-07 at 15:38:36 PDT   Listings
Mitch basically,

reprint -- stamps, other than re-issues, printed from the original plates after the original stamps had ceased to be current, usually to satisfy the demands of collectors.

these Columbians fall more under the title of Re-issues -- stamps issued again after having been withdrawn from use. (but even then as they were issued on completely different papers, perfs etc, technically they arent even re-issues)


Linda, off to work now, its 8.40am
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 626 ) on May-09-07 at 15:30:18 PDT   Listings
Lindy They were printed using the original plates but the date and perforation were changed and colors tweeked. What is your definition of reprint?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-09-07 at 15:27:12 PDT   Listings
to the :NEWBIES and my friends overseas {I think there one out there somewhere ?} -----Here is what the discussion is about ,the buyer of the cover from Germany got the 1991 issue of the Columbians as seen on this scan not the one listed in the auction catalog which is worth a lot more than the 1991 issues . Peter's link to auction....paul
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 357 ) on May-09-07 at 15:18:21 PDT   Listings
Peter they are NOT reprints they are a modern commemorative stamp issue, valid for postage. a Reprint is something else altogether!
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-09-07 at 15:17:09 PDT   Listings
Alec(infla-alec)

If I'm going to bid on that lot or other non-English lots, I will find a way to translate it like asking you. :-)


PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-09-07 at 15:15:37 PDT   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

I actually almost fooled by those reprints before since I didn't know such reprints exist. I hope there is an easy way to find out all "modern" reprints of old US stamps.


PC
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-09-07 at 15:04:36 PDT   Listings
Peter C… You’d have to be a pretty dim bulb to get fooled by a Columbian reprint in the flesh. They are abundantly obvious. This buyer had visions of “something for nothing” in his otherwise empty head, and leaped right in.

Lindy... Well of course you speak German. But us yokels across the pond know only enough German to read a beer label…



Jim
Posted by infla-alec   ( 531 ) on May-09-07 at 15:00:36 PDT   Listings
Thanks to all those who have provided information regards the European covers I have acquired. Still a fair bit of research to do before deciding where and how best to sell them on.

Peter C & Jim The keyword in that Columbus sale is , "Blockausgabe" meaning stamps from a minature sheet. So the eroor is not on the part of the seller. I assume US post did issue a reprint of some sort as a sheetlet and if so it is those that the seller was offering. I find it hard to believe the winner who is from the US believes he has bought the original Columbus $ values on a modern cover. It's sad to see either inexperienced collectors or just plain crazy collectors throw away their cash like that.
Contacting the buyer and informing him is an option but I gave up long ago trying to educate buyers via ebay.
It goes without saying if anyone here does intend bidding on non English speaking ebay sites then be sure you understand all the description and selling terms. If in doubt ask. Pretty sure most common European languages here can be translated if need be.

Vinny I'll be in touch again once I know exact costs of shipping the Michel Spezial.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-09-07 at 15:00:20 PDT   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

I think if I post such listing, you will email me and give me a lecture. :-) If I ever start selling, I will ask you to help me on description.


PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-09-07 at 14:56:08 PDT   Listings
Linda(mini*lindy)

I did not read (translate) the description too. Those reprints are almost like fakes to me. Don't understand why USPS created them.


PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-09-07 at 14:51:16 PDT   Listings
Jim(iomoon)

Please don't give the idea to others. I don't want to spend time skipping those reprint listings.


PC
Posted by april_good_stuff   ( 39 ) on May-09-07 at 14:50:22 PDT   Listings
Hi all;)
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 357 ) on May-09-07 at 14:46:54 PDT   Listings
Jim, Jim, Peter & Jeff(If he's got his breath back!). That seller did describe, in German, $2 and $4 out of minisheet on envelope.... mmmm hard to pity a buyer who didn't read German before buying from ebay Germany! asking the seller the date of the pmk would have helped
For the 1.99 start price its a nice cover!

IO enjoy your vacation time, and I must say that aerogramme is just wonderful!!

Linda
off to the box to see how many Columbians I have
to list on ebay.de !
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-09-07 at 14:38:05 PDT   Listings
Hmm,

I'm seriously thinking of putting a sheet of the reprints on eBay as singles.
Described as "American stamp with Columbus"
Of course, I'll photograph them at an angle and out of focus without flash in a room lit only by yellow light.

Yippee,

today was the last day of classes!!

After being dragged off to a BBQ last night, I finally got the volcano aerogramme on my web site.
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-09-07 at 14:22:03 PDT   Listings
Peter C… Well, it’s almost hard to have pity on that buyer. First and foremost one must educate himself about what he is thinking of throwing money at. If you ever offer something common that has a very valuable look-alike, and are sufficiently vague in the wording of the lot description, I guarantee you will have people falling over each other to bid on your item.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-09-07 at 14:14:19 PDT   Listings
knuden… Nice items, and congrats on finding the “oner”.

Duncan D... I had problems with Norton in the past, then a friend of mine who is retired from IBM now takes care of my anti-virus subscriptions etc. He and I both do animal rescue work—it’s amazing the number of puppies and kittens that are dumped off in Beverly Hills because people think “Oh those people are rich, they’ll take them in.” Wrong…

Jim
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-09-07 at 14:09:21 PDT   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

I cannot believe my eyes when I saw that listing. I hope someone like that winner will bid on my listings if I ever get started.

PC
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-09-07 at 14:04:17 PDT   Listings
Knud-Erik,
Nice items.
Nothing yet of what I expected -- and paid for -- in my mail, except from bills, bills and bills.

Linda & Paul, Thanks for your words of advice and wishes.
I have to meditate on this one, because a part of me would really like to hurt the "know it all with plastic face, very friendly with e-mails but no material" with three extremely well worded negs. I have in mind something very subtle (free of censorship, with no blasphemes or slant included) but very nasty, actually. I am good at it, so my wife and friends (the few I have left ;-)) say. Although probably I should better shout it out in the nearby wood, so not to hurt anyone! ;-)
BTW: along with the negs, wuold come a report to eBay, followed by a credit card refund request ( I should have to call to my bank in Spoleto, in Italy).
I don't know how much this operation would cost.
It may likely exceed the cost of the three items which is about 50 US$ alltogether.
On the other hand, how simple it would have been if he just mailed what I have paid for!

Drats!

All the best,
Paolo
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-09-07 at 14:01:05 PDT   Listings
Peter C… Nope, they’re the reprints. You can tell by the very large margins. Besides, no one in his right mind would use high denominations of the old issue for a contemporary mailing, which this is. The buyer of that lot got taken to the cleaners.

Jim
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3579 ) on May-09-07 at 13:57:16 PDT   Listings

speechless....

Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-09-07 at 13:52:23 PDT   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

This one should work:
1893 Columbus stamps


PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-09-07 at 13:50:24 PDT   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

Are those 1893 Columbus stamps?

PC
Posted by knuden   ( 2263 ) on May-09-07 at 12:47:47 PDT   Listings
In today mail was 2 interesting items:

#1. A registered folded letter sent from Prague to Köpcseny in Hungary 1912. It's a collection of 5 CZ Kr. for a kind of membership of an organisation. As a bonus is the Hungarian Postal order attached the letter.

#2. Is my find of the month! :O) it's an uprated Postal card from VOLKSDEUTSCHE MITTELSTELLE BEOBACHTUNGSLAGER NR.1 in Jagerndorf, Sudetenland to a a Polish POW in Stalag XI A Lagerlazaret Tangerhutte, censored,and finally redirected to Arbiets Kommando Stendal. On reverse long text in German.
VOLKSDEUTSCHE MITTELSTELLE BEOBACHTUNGSLAGER was an observation camp for returned Germans, who had lived for generations abroad - here from Poland.
Stalag XI A Lagerlazaret was a hospital in a Prisoner of War camp near Magdeburg in Germany.
Arbiets Kommando Stendal was a forced labour camp in Stendal, north of Magdeburg.
I have never seen such a card and believe it's unique.

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 120 ) on May-09-07 at 12:13:01 PDT   Listings
Off topic, but discussed here a year ago...

Problems with Symantec/Norton antivirus, particularly the 2003 version, an update on the story, since along with McAfee it is probably one of the two most often used products for antivirus:

Jim/jaywild, was it you that had the incredible horror story about that? Or Jimbo, maybe? Anyway, here's the saga.

The original problem was, Symantec sold subscription renewals annually for the product, but after selling those renewals about this time last year, they dropped support for the product! That meant the renewals were useless, the product wouldn't load the weekly updates, which was the whole purpose of buying the renewal.

I tried, as you did, to cancel the subscription, but Symantec threw up too many roadblocks (I just wanted a refund) and rather than go through the incredible difficulties you did in choosing to install their latest product instead, I just stuck it out with the original 2003 version, and eventually they did reinstate support - maybe someone told them you can't sell support and then not provide it. So after mayb ten weeks or more the weekly downloads began to function again.

And to complete the story, obviously another year has passed and renewal time has rolled around again. BUT that didn't quite seem fair, since for two months or more they didn't provide the service they sold, so I wrote to them about it.

So they extended my expiration date by two months.

Anyway overall it turned out to be quite a bit cheaper than to switch to the latest version they were promoting, although they probably did bully a lot of customers into the expensive and potentially difficult upgrade.

Too bad that we sometimes have to fight just to break even, and then feel that somehow we achieved a victory!

(Insert a stupid Billy Ray Cyrus victory dance)

-Dunc
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 120 ) on May-09-07 at 11:38:03 PDT   Listings
Regarding the name of the Stamp Community Watch committee, I've seen some report responses signed like this:

Regards,
Doofus*
Community Watch Team
eBay Trust & Safety

So there we have the CWT, another identity.

Is that the same as the SWC? Perhaps not, since it does seem to come directly from eBay, and some other canned eBay responses indicate that reports are being FORWARDED to the SCW.

I do believe that the APS/eBay alliance got off to a bumpy start but they are having a very positive effect, not all of it easy to see. It's important to consider not just the numbers of bad auctions whacked, but also the impact on the intentionally bad sellers who have been out to game the system and whose auctions are no longer being posted, especially those that are NARU'ed. That's a hidden bonus that doesn't show up significantly in the tally, along with the deterrent effect as potential or previously bad sellers learn that they will no longer be able to roll along more or less unimpeded. We've come a long way since the days when the usual response was "you can't tell anything from a scan" or "eBay is only a venue" and Power Sellers seemed to have acquired Invincibility.

Reacting properly to bad auctions or reacting ineffectively can each have a snowball effect, and right now it seems like the snowball is rolling in the right direction for a change, with the Stamps community probably setting an example for the rest of the huge eBay environment. Think green, it all has to start somewhere.

-Dunc

*Name changed to protect the innocent. No Doofuses (Doofii?) were harmed in the making of this post.

PS: Paul, any thoughts on the Fed report?
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-09-07 at 10:07:05 PDT   Listings
SCW According to Lloyd, there is a "contractor" who checks it all out. BUT, is the contractor knowledgeable in US material, British material, Russian material, etc. Early Japanese dragons and cherry blossoms have been extensively faked. My intuition tells me it's US material only where reperfs, repairs and misidentified stamps are those "watched".

I found Frank Sente's remark thet "many eBayers are APS members" rater intriguing. Currently, there are some 45,000 APS members and probably 250,000++++++ stamp sellers & buyers here. I wouldn't call that ratio "many" but "some". Hey, but what do I know?

APS member for a long time now!
Posted by wighwam   ( 284 ) on May-09-07 at 09:39:44 PDT   Listings
Actually, where I come from ACW is alredy in use by the Anglican Church Women.
Terry
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-09-07 at 08:52:21 PDT   Listings
NOIP… It’s AWC—Aw, Who Cares?

Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-09-07 at 08:43:44 PDT   Listings
Or an Acronym Community Watch?

I plead no coffee before my earlier post and the fact that they have been used interchangeably.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3579 ) on May-09-07 at 08:18:46 PDT   Listings

Perhaps we need an Anacronym Watch Committee

the ACW

Posted by vinnysf   ( 457 ) on May-09-07 at 08:01:04 PDT   Listings
lol so is it stamp community watch or stamp watch committee?
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-09-07 at 07:29:50 PDT   Listings
For a bit of historical information, here is how the SCW was discussed at the end of 2003.

Here is an eBay workshop held December 1, 2004 on the subject.

Here is a summary of the results of questions we tried to ask at that session.

Here is a SCADS report which has a history of information.

Here (.pdf file) is the report of the 2006 General Membership meeting of the APS August 26, 2006. Frank Sente's comments on eBay/APS/SCW operations can be found on page 5.

There undoubtedly is other information on what has happened since then however, I have not found it (but then again, I haven't made it a high priority).

jimbo
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on May-09-07 at 07:01:41 PDT   Listings
I guess I should have read Jimbo's post first. Nevermind. :- )

Bill D.
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on May-09-07 at 07:00:39 PDT   Listings
SWC vs SCW .... postalhysteria's question caused me to do a control-F to find SCW on the board so I could see the post to which he refered. Interestingly, at the top of the board, right above the reload button, there is an ebay link www.ebay.com/scw, fo reporting stamp selling violations. Don't know if someone at ebay had dyslexia when creating the link, or if the acronym originally was scw.

Bill D.
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-09-07 at 06:56:15 PDT   Listings
Jeff and Jim,
Minor correction: it's Stamp Community Watch.

Here's page 1 and page 2 of the APS report summarizing their involvement with the SCW for 2006.

jimbo
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-09-07 at 06:30:16 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

Woke to a severe thunderstorm.

Jeff

Stamp Watch Committee, it's SWC
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3579 ) on May-09-07 at 05:30:44 PDT   Listings

What is SCW?

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1301 ) on May-09-07 at 04:58:06 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all



Jim L.

member

Posted by vinnysf   ( 457 ) on May-09-07 at 03:13:34 PDT   Listings
infla-alec thanks for the info. i would like to take you up on your offer of sending me your old michel catalog if i pay the shipping charges. is that what you offered? (just to make sure) that sounds like a great deal to me. let me know.
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 23:42:30 PDT   Listings
lindac7782… Your stamps sound like some of these. Unfortunately they are very, very common, especially used.

Jim
Posted by lindac7782   ( 122 ) on May-08-07 at 22:57:40 PDT   Listings
Someone left me an envelope full of cancelled used stamps. Not a collector so am stumped. I try to describe a few, hopefully someone can let me know if they have value or not. Red 1 cent postage due stamp, Green 4 cent Champion liberty, 1-1/2 cent with Harding (brown), 3 cent stamps with Washington, Roosevelt, Jackson, 4 cent Pony Express, 3 cent Nato stamp...there are too many too list.
Thanks for your help.
Linda
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 22:48:20 PDT   Listings
NOIP… I haven’t seen one of these in many moons. (For non-US, it’s an old-style $20 bill.) The Fed has been destroying them right and left because they are so easy to counterfeit. Whenever a bank takes one in they are under orders to forward it to the Treasury Dep’t—this one was probably just emerged from under some tightwad’s mattress.



Lavar... I have to admit I am stumped, unless that cover has the largest known multiples of that 1 øre stamp. That was quite a bit of postage to pay in 1894. it also looks as if the contents were rifled somewhere between Sweden and San Francisco.

Jim
Posted by keleofa   ( 3434 ) on May-08-07 at 22:19:16 PDT   Listings
Jim (jaywild), Paperhistory & Nomad,

Thanks for the input re: 1900 Expo Ad Cancel (Barry).


Lavart: Fantastic HK cover --- Thanks for sharing!

Matt in Arizona
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Posted by lavart   ( 1346 ) on May-08-07 at 22:04:48 PDT   Listings

Here are some more recently acquired goodies.

Here is the front of a cover sent from Copenhagen in November of 1914, addressed to German E. Africa. On the reverse you can see the Aden transit marking and a DLO marking from Bombay, as the cover was not delivered due to WWI. There are return markings from Copenhagen dated April of 1915.

Here is a marvelous cover sent from Hong Kong on Nov. 10, 1941, addressed to San, French West Africa, via airmail. Take a look at the reverse and you'll see why I love this one. I need to do some research to find out why the cover traveled via Nigeria and Cameroun instead of via Dakar. This could be one of the last covers out of HK to Africa prior to the occupation of HK by the Japanese. My favorite acquisition at WESTPEX.

Now for 2 acquisitions on eBay. Here is the front of a cover I bought for about $400 on eBay. Here is the reverse. At least one of you out there should be aware of why I went after this very aggressively. Yes, it is unique. I'll explain why later, unless someone else wants to take a stab at it.

And here is another eBay acquisition, which I found lurking in someone's store. It probably is not unique, but it is very rare. I'll explain why later. Now off to sleep and dream of buying some of those fdc's going to Germany listed in the auction catalog I received over the weekend.......

Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-08-07 at 20:18:55 PDT   Listings
lloydstamps...It might calm the raging torrent a bit if we could get some of the details. The last time I was in the room with several APS officers they said they couldn't give any information at all because of their contract with eBay. I think they did say how many were on the SCW but that was it.

Admittedly this was a couple of years ago so maybe things have changed.
Posted by lloydstamps   ( 561 ) on May-08-07 at 19:57:05 PDT   Listings
The VSC certainly isn't a mouthpiece for the APS (I know some officials cringe when the APS is discussed there) and it isn't even a mouthpiece for me &#151; I've been criticized there several times myself!

As for the costs to the APS of the eBay relationship, there is a contractor who either screens the complained-about lots and also initiates the APS action (warnings to the sellers and, if necessary, a recommendation to eBay to pull the listing). I've forgotten some of the details at this point. I'm sure we can get them. But the SCW isn't a committee so much as a process.
Posted by rich-in-pa   ( 205 ) on May-08-07 at 18:39:51 PDT   Listings
Paul finally said something I agree with. Time to end it!!
Rich
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-08-07 at 18:18:22 PDT   Listings
MY GUESS is that its $25,000 to $40,000 for one staffer .If it was $60,000 to $75,000 a year it would be a Vice-President running it ,If it was $100,000 to $250,000 a year from E-BAY it would be a department .

The other way it could be a part-time staffer at $10,000 or $15,000 a year from e-bay .

The important thing to note is that its gone no where in 3 years ,so time to fold the tent and end it . ....paul

Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-08-07 at 18:06:56 PDT   Listings
stamphick, I know, I remember distinctly that there was comment by someone, somewhere that mentioned the the amount was miniscule and should be increased but it definitely stated that the was a fee attached to the APS involvement,

David B.

David B.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-08-07 at 17:45:29 PDT   Listings
dbenson...At a town hall meeting at WESTPEX a couple of years ago Janet Klug and a couple VP's or directors said that the APS did get something, but not much. Everything is secret because of the contractual agreement. I seriously doubt that it is a major money maker but I can't see why it can't be run without a loss unless the payment from eBay is really minuscule.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-08-07 at 17:33:56 PDT   Listings
PART OF THE PUZZLE IS MISSING Nobody out of a few top people can answer the question of the relation between the A.P.S and E-BAY.What is known is that A.P.S wanted some kind of editorial control over the stamp section of e-bay .But EBAY told them no .

At a later date A.P.S. was given a chance plus some money to run the SWC.It was original set up for U.S. material.That is were it still at ,never expanded .

The question now is the SWC was maybe the beginning to get the A.P.S. nose into the E-BAY tent or was that the limit they were given and now they are unhappy and want to pull out .

All the above information was discussed by Bob L. and Janet K. at a A.P.S meeting in Chicago a few years ago .....paul

Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 17:21:49 PDT   Listings
billsey… Paste-ups are not my forte, but usually they don’t have extra paper on the back. Generally one piece of paper laps over the other. Your example looks as if it has been reinforced.

Perhaps—although I don’t really know—it was a line pair that got separated and someone helpfully pasted them back together.

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-08-07 at 17:20:04 PDT   Listings
stamphick, it all depends on what the APS gets out of the arrangement, according to Ken they don't get anything but it must be somewhere noted on some balance sheet if any funds change hands although I think the APS got shafted by Ebay and that the APS signed the agreement without reading the small print and hoped that their would be enough profit from the extra certificates they thought would be requested when material was queried.

David B.
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-08-07 at 17:13:36 PDT   Listings
Dang, sorry about the bold.
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-08-07 at 17:12:55 PDT   Listings
OK, those answers were fast enough... (Thanks Jim!) Now, let's talk about coil line pairs from the Prexies. As you can see, this one is a paste-up pair, showing both lines nicely on the front and the actual pasted piece on the back. Scott doesn't seem to list the paste-up pairs, can anyone give me approximate value or suggest a reference I can look at?
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-08-07 at 17:08:53 PDT   Listings
D2...That may be right, but does it seem reasonable? Not to me it doesn't.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-08-07 at 17:07:04 PDT   Listings
stamphick, they are roughly the same comments used when the arrangements were instigated in the dim dark past. It doesn't mean the honorary work by the watchers but the time involved by the paid staff at headquarter. I think there was a mention that it took an employee full time to look after the work,

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 16:54:00 PDT   Listings
David… I think the translation of that remark is “APS really doesn’t want to be bothered with SWC, and this is the excuse we will use to terminate it.”

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 16:52:19 PDT   Listings
billsey… Here is an enlarged view of the “dry print” on your stamps. I have put fully printed examples above them. The missing ink is indicated by blue arrows.

Jim
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-08-07 at 16:44:37 PDT   Listings
On VSC Ken Lawrence said that the cost of administering the SCW was greater than the revenue received from eBay. Does that make any sense to anyone? It is my impression the APS reviewers were volunteers, so what could the administration costs amount to?
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 16:38:31 PDT   Listings
billsey… Your other two stamps have what is called “dry print” at the bottom. If the paper wasn’t sufficiently damp when the stamp was printed, in certain areas the ink didn’t come off the plate onto the paper. This is usually found on stamps close to the edge of the sheet, which dries out first.

Sometimes this happened when there was a delay between the time the paper was taken out of its “damp” environment and when it was fed (or laid) onto the press. Such a delay might have been removing a glitch or blob on the plate which had fouled the sheet just previously printed.

I think I have an example somewhere close by that I can post a link to.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 16:32:02 PDT   Listings
billsey… I think someone was playing with his home perforator kit! My guess is there was a straight edge at the bottom, which someone tried to turn into something else.

Jim
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 16:26:12 PDT   Listings
NOIP… It was very hot here in CA today.



Jim
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on May-08-07 at 16:18:21 PDT   Listings
lluehhhb the files are on the way (actually they are about 77% of the way through being scanned by Symantic anti-virus). Hopefully they will make it OK .... it's a total of about 16MB.

Bill D.
Posted by billsey   ( 846 ) on May-08-07 at 16:15:53 PDT   Listings
OK, all you WF wizards out there... This [80k] looks like a normal block of Scott #498, flat plate perf 11 unwatermarked. On closer examination though, the lower left stamp is perfed 9½ at the bottom and the lower right is perfed 10½ at the bottom. Did someone just go crazy with their new perf machine, or is it a real variety?

On a similar note, these [60k] newer issues look like they may have double transfers at the bottom, or is just inking problems?

If anyone could shed some light, I'd appreciate it.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-08-07 at 15:39:15 PDT   Listings
Woops,

we just got hit by a hail storm.

Not your TEXAS-sized hail, but enough to knock small birds senseless.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-08-07 at 15:18:14 PDT   Listings
Milenko

Yep, it has a big, blue, blurry cancel about the same size as the green Carta Prioritaria.
With Correos (something> at the top.
28 APR 2007
3
(?)SUC. El Golf
Posted by rclwa   ( 964 ) on May-08-07 at 15:14:57 PDT   Listings
A quick drive by--I am still only seeing this board briefly from the library, with time too limited to read much. I have been saving them to a flash memory but will not be able to read those until my computer is working again.

Mitch -- I think of you when I see the news of tornados and floods in your state. I hope you are well away from both and safe from any harm.

Bob in WA
Posted by knuden   ( 2263 ) on May-08-07 at 15:09:53 PDT   Listings
At last I have been able to get a receipt of a registered letter (back) with a Prague cancel to my Prague cancel collection. It's sent from Prague 1857 to Wallerstein and is correct charged with 9 Kr. (for a letter more than 20 Meilen) and 6 Kr. for registration. Total 15 Kr.

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


Posted by lluehhhb   ( 266 ) on May-08-07 at 15:06:27 PDT   Listings
Jim,

I was sure tha aerogramme would be useful for you. Probably a hard to find stationery in used condition.

By the way, did the post office postmarked the stamps of my cover? At the post office I use, the clerks usually don't do it, I've been told that they cancel the stamps during the sorting. It´s hard to find Chile modern used, not only due to the PVI's, but half the time stamps remain uncancelled on the covers!
Posted by knuden   ( 2263 ) on May-08-07 at 14:44:24 PDT   Listings
infla-alec - Hi Alec. :O)
To your early classical period covers, I have following comments:

1. Your local Austrian folded letter (2Kr.) is a beauty and have in my old Michel 2000 a cat. value of 500 - 600DM, regarding if the paper is handmade or machine made (after end of 1854.) Is there a date inside? I wish it had a cancel from Prague - if so I was a buyer. :O)

2. Your folded letter from Trieste to Vienna - here could the cancel have been better but it an unusual rate and my Michel says, with this combination 200DM. Any date inside?

3. I think you better can tell me about your Bavarian folded letter, as I guess you know more than I do. :O)

4. This Belgium folded letter isn't a bad one - even if the left stamp is cut at the bottom. It's from the first issue.

5. Same comments as the other Belgium letter. :O)

6. The Danish folded letter is from the first issue (Ferslew) - if the written commet is correct. It's close cut at top left. But a ok letter. Can you see who sent it??

7. The Registered Estonian cover is with the 4 stamps from first issue. It was sent via Finland and censored here to Denmark. It's philatelic (I know who the reciever is) :O)

8. Your Finland to Riga is a beauty. As the stamp has all the "perfs" it will get a good price.

9. The french folded letter is again a first issue letter. It's looks close cut but is a nice letter. The stamp look like the frame is broken at top left.

10. The folded letter from Romania - here D2 has said the most. If it's from 1862/63, it's from the sheets, where each stamp had it's own cliche and from 1864 it's from the sheets, where all the stamp was from the same cliche.

11. The Spain folded letter is a beauty too. Again it's a first issue and the stamp is type II (T and O in CUARTOS connected).

12. The Swiss Air Mail cover has a good destination. There is 2 types of paper of the stamps - one normal paper and the other chalk coated rippled paper (from 1934) - the last most valuable.

13. The Hungarian cover - here Hungaryjim has said it better than I could. :O)

These was my 2 pf - hope you can use them. :O)

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-08-07 at 14:37:20 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

Just back from the PO.
Many thanks Milenko, I had never seen this aerogramme before.
Other side
Will put images on web site tonight.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 531 ) on May-08-07 at 14:11:53 PDT   Listings
Hopefully this is the Michel English translation. It is a PDF file so you can save it and print off a copy to take around with you.
http://www.michel.de/pdf/Englisch.pdf
Posted by abt1950   ( 225 ) on May-08-07 at 13:41:53 PDT   Listings
The link below is for the parent directory. This one should bring up the site itself.
Posted by abt1950   ( 225 ) on May-08-07 at 13:40:07 PDT   Listings
Afternoon/evening/morning from a warmer NJ.

I've just done a google search to try to find the Michel translation. No luck so far, but I found this interesting Heligoland site. It uses Michel colors (among others) as a base for comparing the colors on the originals vs. the reprints. A useful little site.

Anne
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on May-08-07 at 12:56:14 PDT   Listings
Paul

Actually you do not differ with me. A two cent stamp selling for 12 cents is a 6 times growth over thirty years. A ten cent cup of coffee selling for $1.80 is an 18 times growth over thirty years. Stamps are not doing so well apparently.
On another topic, I have a cinderella stamp that I think should be given only to you,I am not kidding--it is a large stamp with a picture of a steamroller. Send an address and I'll mail it, then you can scan it for the board--I do not have a scanner yet.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 531 ) on May-08-07 at 12:21:52 PDT   Listings
Vinny If you want to colect Germany in specialized way then the Michels you need are the Spezial Bands 1 and 2. Band 1 covers States and up to 1945. Band 2 covers post 45 to date. Both volumes are in German but not that difficult to understand. There is online a free translation guide of how to use the Michel in English. However at present I can't remember where I saved it. But pretty sure I have posted the link here before and others may be able to post the link here for you.
There is an English version of the Michel also now available. However that does not cover any of the post 45 issues and I believe many of the WW II Occupation areas are also not included. Not cheap as it only came out towards the end of last year and it should be available to buy direct in the US.
My advice as a beginner of States colecting is to try and buy an older version of the Spezial Band 1. The prices will be out of course but the basic information will still be there. If you do happen to get a copy of the German version Michel and don't understand something just ask and all will hopefuly be explained.
I can probably let you have a old er version at cost of shipping only if interested. But postage of a book from UK -US would I imagine be expensive

G1 The first Euro priced Michels started to appear in 2001. They also now list in colour which in my opinion for the Spezial is a total waste of time for the advanced collector who already knows what the stamps look like. It's not as if the colour illustrations are exact matches to the listed colour varieties. Just a plain green, blue stamp of the set etc.

Eusc/APS Vote Like most non US residents I haven't a clue about any of the APS nominees. Therefore can I please ask that my vote be taken via Proxy and Matt votes as he sees fit. Is that allowed ?

Parksharon I agree with Chaswilly the T1 signoscope isn't the best but it is easy to use really. You place one of the thin paper filters under the glass lid. Place your stamp on top and then insert the whole thing into the machine. Apply the pressure and hopefully a watermark can be detected. You may need to fiddle with the brightness to get the best results. You state you are interested in US stamps so maybe others here who are US collectors can advise on the best method of watermark detection for US stamps.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 266 ) on May-08-07 at 12:16:13 PDT   Listings
wrd3 Thanks! I've sent to you a message through ebay with details.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 624 ) on May-08-07 at 12:14:20 PDT   Listings
Matt The notice looks great!
CYE
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-08-07 at 11:26:08 PDT   Listings
wrd3: that will probably occur as well. I do have the club mailing list.
Posted by wrd3   ( 100 ) on May-08-07 at 11:16:54 PDT   Listings
lluehhhb if you would like to extend the archives back a little I have the board archived on my hard drive back to just before Christmas. I could send you the files (I have one file per month) if you would like.

APS Election why not send an email to the EUSC membership list with the message proposed by paperhistory? I would think those who are members who don't (now) regularly participate in the board should still get an opportunity to vote on what the EUSC position is. Disclaimer I'm not a member of EUSC, so I have no say in the matter.

Bill D.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-08-07 at 11:13:15 PDT   Listings
Bad links below because of cut-and-paste from Micro$oft Word. APS website here; VSC election page here.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-08-07 at 10:54:18 PDT   Listings
Milenko (and Mitch, et al). Let's see if this works!

APS Election

Here's the candidate listing. All EUSC members can vote, whether or not you are an APS member (I believe that to be correct and am verifying). My suggestion is to cut and paste the candidate list into an email, and then simply delete the names you are not selecting.
Email your votes (or abstentions) to me at mliebson@gmail.com no later than MAY 24, 2007. I am leaving lead time to get any necessary signatures on the final paperwork.

For those seeking additional information, statements are available from the APS website http://stamps.org/Election/Candidates.htm>here. The Virtual Stamp Club has an election website http://www.virtualstampclub.com/APSelection07.htm>here, which includes links to websites for some candidates and also a link to the VSC chat board, where the election has been extensively discussed. [If there are other online locations where the election has been a subject of discussion, I am happy to add them to the resource list here]. The May issue of the American Philatelist includes both the candidate statements and candidate advertisements.

President (vote for one, one to be elected)
Nicholas G. Carter
Ken Lawrence

Board of Vice Presidents (vote for one team, one team of three to be elected)
Nancy B. Clark, Robert E. Lamb, Jeffrey N. Shapiro
Steven Jeffrey Rod, Wade Edgar Saadi, David Lee Straight

Secretary (vote for one, one to be elected)
Wayne Youngblood
Steve Zwillinger

Treasurer (vote for one, one to be elected)
Thomas F. Allen
W. Danforth Walker

Director at Large (vote for up to four candidates, four to be elected)
Michael D. Dixon
Joann Lenz
Peter D. Martin
Robert P. Odenweller
Denise L. Stotts
Kent M. Wilson

APRL Trustee (vote for one)
John B. Flannery
Rob Haeseler


Posted by lluehhhb   ( 266 ) on May-08-07 at 10:18:32 PDT   Listings
Since I'm way too far from the APS, honestly I'm not in a position to cast a responsible vote since I don't even know the names of all the candidates... and I guess other non-US EUSC members are in the same position. Maybe a brief summary about the subject could be useful?

---------------

The past week board has been posted in the eusc site. Unfortunately I deleted the april 23-29 week file by mistake and those posts are lost, so we´re officially starting the archive on April 30th, 2007.

Bill has to link it from the main eusc page, but the preliminary index can be accessed here. It's plain and simple, since I like simple designs (of course, if someone else wants to make a different design please contact me). That page will be updated each time a new week is added.
A google search bar will be added soon too.

The archive files will be app. 600kb in size, I think it's reasonable, but slower connections may have problems. The files could be splitted in smaller parts. please contact me if anyone has troubles reading them.

Milenko.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 624 ) on May-08-07 at 10:10:05 PDT   Listings
Matt CYE, I hope I have the correct email address for you. Let me know if you do not recieve it.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 624 ) on May-08-07 at 09:51:33 PDT   Listings
RE APS voting
As Matt is the APS representative for the club, I see it as perfectly proper that he recieve and tally the votes. I do not think this requires a special meeting and believe an open vote would only cause arguements and bad feelings.
Matt Please make up a little message giving details as Peter @ 08:29:46 suggested and the email address you would like votes sent too.
Rerun it a couple times a day and that should do the trick.
Posted by g.1   ( 1112 ) on May-08-07 at 09:35:58 PDT   Listings
When did the Michel catalogues start publishing with prices in euros?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-08-07 at 08:30:21 PDT   Listings
whoops where did that bold come from?
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-08-07 at 08:29:46 PDT   Listings
Marius For my part I am not a member of the APS and wouldn't vote. At the risk of opening a can of worms and trying to be democratic I would say:-
1. The options for voting i.e. who for etc need to be posted on the board or a link provided for the info.
2. A cut off date is needed for receipt of votes.
3. A vote for "no vote" should be allowed to give the club the authority to abstain from voting if the majority so wished. Personally I think that is negative but it is an option that should be open to all.
Peter
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1663 ) on May-08-07 at 07:38:53 PDT   Listings
Oops, missed it.
Postal considerations ARE included.
See "Contents 3".
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1663 ) on May-08-07 at 07:36:22 PDT   Listings
I've forgotten.
Do we have an Antarctic specialist here?
I came across the NSF Personnel Manual (circa 1968) given out to civilians (and military(?)) who were stationed down there.
A quick look indicates that postal considerations aren't addressed.

Anyway I can provide a complete scan of the manual to anyone who wishes.
It is about 50 pages ranging in size from 27kb to 350kb with most leaning to the larger size.

OR

You can review the Table of Contents and indicate sections that might interest you.

Contents 1
Contents 2
Contents 3
Appendix 1

Posted by nomad55   ( 885 ) on May-08-07 at 07:04:30 PDT   Listings
Arizona Matt....your St Louis Barry cancel is Bomar type STL04-11, and also the recorded EKU. (New Years Day)
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 06:35:24 PDT   Listings
paperhistory… I came across that Pearson-Hill on eBay along with the American early mark. He also had this for sale, and according to the Barr-Fyke encyclopedia only one was known at the time of publication, and that misplaced on the cover so the dial doesn’t show. The seller was asking $100, but I thought it was too much because the cover has bad ink smears on the front, and despite there supposedly being only one in existence the valuation is only “c”—$15 to $35.

Do you have any solo usage covers in your store?

Jim
Posted by stampmad   ( 1084 ) on May-08-07 at 06:03:49 PDT   Listings
Matt I question if a member of the EUSC has to be an APS member to vote. Our constitution does not state that you must be an APS member to take a vote.

I put it to Mitchell that he calls a club meeting this weekend and we take a vote on who we support in the APS elections. I have no problem whether the vote is public on the board or a member prefers to email the scrutineer directly.
Marius
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-08-07 at 05:59:50 PDT   Listings
Matt & Peter C… Yes, Pearson Hill was used successfully in Great Britain. The experimental use in the United States was of—

“an English handstamp operated from a hinged lever supported on a pivoted standard, mounted on the stamping table so that it could be swung sideways from the inking pad to a bunch of letters…”

A quasi-machine, it seems. In the Pearson Hill proof impression book of the British Post Office there is an entry with illustration showing that a machine was sent to Boston for a trial.

There were evidently two machines sent, one at Boston with a “C” in the killer and the Chelsea device with the “7”. They worked well, however the postmaster found that while they did as good a job as a hand-stamp the mechanical action required to re-ink it proved cumbersome. Why employ machinery to duplicate the simple hand operation of re-inking? They were used for a number of years but apparently not extensively.

Nice St. Louis fair mark!

vinnysf...Thanks to soggy333 I can happily report that the “phallic” implement is a pre-WWII armor-piercing shell used by US Navy destroyer/cruiser type ships. It was rescued from a scrap pile.

Jim
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-08-07 at 04:46:49 PDT   Listings
d2: only if it is appropriate and timely to do so. I haven't seen the need or benefit just yet. Among other things, I'm conspiring to see if I can talk my wife into letting me to go Portland for the APS show this summer. Having a twin brother in Portland should help. I suppose, if I can't go, I could always just send him. Nobody would know the difference!

election: The chapter does get a colletive vote. Let's do this -- EUSC members send me an email with your selections. I will verify membership, tally the votes, and presuming the form shows up, send in the results. But before we start that, it would be fair to say that I have made comments on other boards that could be considered partisan. If anyone is uncomfortable with me counting votes, just say so, and we'll see if there's another volunteer. [For my own part, it should not be a problem. I am an attorney and I'm used to handling confidential information and treating it as such]

jim: Nice machines. Wish I knew you had been looking for a Chelsea Pearson Hill, as I have a pair of them in stock. :)

Matt: That 1900 slogan is a Barry. There are several minor varieties, as with most Barrys.
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Posted by vinnysf   ( 457 ) on May-08-07 at 01:01:22 PDT   Listings
thanks knuden i'll look there too. any suggestions on which germany catalog i should buy? i concentrate on german states and reich...my bund. and ddr collection is just by chance since its made up of stuff that comes along with a lot that i've bought.
Posted by knuden   ( 2263 ) on May-08-07 at 00:40:23 PDT   Listings
Sorry - my last message was for vinnysf. :O) More coffee - please!!

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!


Posted by knuden   ( 2263 ) on May-08-07 at 00:38:06 PDT   Listings
greenwawe4u - As eBay.uk or eBay.com isn't the only eBay's there is many Michel catalog to be found. Just look here.

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by vinnysf   ( 457 ) on May-08-07 at 00:31:14 PDT   Listings
48/48 had a little trouble with vermont and new hamp. though
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-08-07 at 00:28:47 PDT   Listings
Nice to see such a lot of good postings. I think Richwong is the best person to advise on the HK market. Certainly I never had any problem accessing any site from HK.
Parksharon You could always ask the manufacturers for an English version try this site:-
http://www.safepub.com/Catalog/stamps/watermrk.htm
Posted by vinnysf   ( 457 ) on May-08-07 at 00:09:34 PDT   Listings
jaywild what is that big phallic item sitting on the desk in your shelf solution photo??
Posted by vinnysf   ( 457 ) on May-07-07 at 23:38:21 PDT   Listings
i want to buy a michel catalog. there aren't many offered on ebay. there are a lot of 2005 "junior" catalogs for sale and makes me immediately think there must be something bad about that catalog if everyone is trying to get rid of it for such low prices. can anyone help me out on this? i'm working on my germany collection concentrating mostly on the german states and reich issues.

so far i've seen a michel germany , a junior germany and also a specialized germany catalog. what are the differences between these? which covers what, etc? any info is greatly appreciated.

here are some thurn and taxis stamps i recently bought on ebay to add to my collection.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 315 ) on May-07-07 at 23:12:56 PDT   Listings
Matt(keleofa)

I searched the Pearson Hill cancel earlier and I think this has an example of the cancel and a breif history about it.

PC
Posted by bjornmu   ( 917 ) on May-07-07 at 22:34:31 PDT   Listings
Linda, nice Christiania cover, the rectangular cancel is Königliches Schwedisches und Norwegisches Post Comptoir Hamburg, in use from 1823. Fairly common, unlike its brethren from Stralsund and Greifswald.

Yes, Christiania was the first Norwegian city to get a date cancel, in 1845, followed by Bergen and Drammen from 1/1 1846, and 49 more in "prephil" times before 1855, most of them in 1848.
Posted by abt1950   ( 225 ) on May-07-07 at 21:27:29 PDT   Listings
Apolologies for the previous mangled post. It's past my bedtime.

David: I agree with you totally. As far as I'm concerned, seminars on scanning should be a part of every major stamp show. It's still a mystic art to many people, myself included.

The more I read, the more I'm convinced that the issue is making the resources of the APS more accessible to its members, and, for that matter, to the potential stamp-collecting public. Brick and mortar shops are now almost non-existent, so that source of mentoring isn't available for new collectors. Local clubs may well fold as their members get older and older. The old communities may not be there, but much of their spirit can be recreated and many of their services can replicated through the net.

At any rate, I'm rambling and it's wayyyyy past my bedtime.
Nite all, Anne
Posted by keleofa   ( 3434 ) on May-07-07 at 21:20:43 PDT   Listings
Close up of 1900 cancel
Posted by keleofa   ( 3434 ) on May-07-07 at 21:19:57 PDT   Listings
Jim (jaywild),

Nice covers (as usual!). Is the Pearson-Hill a machine cancel? I'm not familiar with the name.

I received this one today, an advertising cancel for the 1903 (later 1904) St Louis World's Fair.

Close up of 1900 cancel

Matt in Arizona
Posted by abt1950   ( 225 ) on May-07-07 at 21:06:39 PDT   Listings
One last thing: This Rumelange cover is this evening's win. Aside from the note on the side of the cover, I don't see any evidence of a railroad cancellation. On the other hand, I did find a reference to the sender, Maury Swartz, in a PDF of a 133 page document concerning a philatelic exposition in Luxembourg in 1983. That was before the PDF crashed my computer. But it's still a nice addition to my Rumelange postal history collection.

Anne

Anne
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-07-07 at 21:05:49 PDT   Listings
Well I guess it wasn't Lloyd that pointed that out but someone pointed it out to Lloyd.
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1618 ) on May-07-07 at 21:04:17 PDT   Listings
parksharon, that piece of equipment is a piece of shihite. Works okay on anything except orange. Garage sale it. If you want another one, let me know off board. I know where one is that's cheap.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-07-07 at 20:51:31 PDT   Listings
Anne...In answer to your comment on scanning Lloyd pointed out that you could travel to Bellefonte where someone is giving a seminar on scanning stamps. I was tempted to point out that many years ago Peter Aitken provided a great seminar online and he updates it regularly. If someone in the APS has already planned a presentation how hard would it be to put it up on the APS website? That's the way to use the net to benefit far flung members.

Posted by abt1950   ( 225 ) on May-07-07 at 20:44:18 PDT   Listings
osrave: Welcome to the stamp chat board. Some of What kind of stamps are you interested in? Any particular areas/countries/topics? eBay can be a good place as long as you remember "caveat emptor." Also, if you have a real brick-and-mortar stamp shop in your vicinity (it's getting rarer and rarer these days), that might be a good place to check. Local stamp shows are also good. Please feel free to ask any questions here too. There's a lot of knowledge among the regulars here.

Matt:
You mean we get a group vote as well as individual votes? Oh dear. . . another thing to argue about.

Dave S: Ron's shop is hard to find unless you know it's there. It's buried in deep corner of the Millburn Mall, which is really just a glorified strip mall. There's a kosher butcher there too. The mall is on the corner of Millburn Ave and Vauxhall, if that rings any bells. If you've ever been to the Menorah Chapel in Union, you've pretty much been there. I'm really rotten at directions, but if you email me about how you would be coming, I'll try to figure out something that won't get you knee-deep in the Rahway River.

Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of brick and mortar stamp shops, new collectors, and the future of the hobby, which we hope will be bright. Anne
Posted by osrave   ( 7 ) on May-07-07 at 20:03:02 PDT   Listings
I am also a beginner. I was wondering if anyone knew a good site to buy stamps. My collection is very limited.

~*~osrave~*~
Posted by parksharon   ( 49 ) on May-07-07 at 19:45:58 PDT   Listings
I am just a beginner to study US stamps. I 've bought a Signoscope T1 and the instruction is in Germany. It comes with some backing plastic and paper, and I don't know how many of them should I put arroung a stamp and how should I put them to achieve the best picture of the watermark.
Please be advised.
Thank you.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 19:42:19 PDT   Listings
paper,

are you going to " out " yourself on VSC as to your position as APS rep. of the EUSC,

David B.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-07-07 at 19:40:48 PDT   Listings
Matt...None yet. I just got my own ballot today.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-07-07 at 19:38:17 PDT   Listings
APS Election....EUSC is an APS chapter. The chapter gets to vote in the election. I suppose we need to set up a process to accomodate that. [stamphick: did any election mailing ever appear for the EUSC?] I can collect votes if that works.
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-07-07 at 19:34:23 PDT   Listings
Io… MUST OF BEEN…

If the word “have” is ever used instead of “of” in these posts I will faint dead away.

Jim
Posted by stamphick!   ( 336 ) on May-07-07 at 19:26:29 PDT   Listings
IO...I thought that the spelling and grammar police were on vacation since a lot HAS been slipping through. Since we're back in business you might check out "proclavities".

:-)
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-07-07 at 19:10:34 PDT   Listings
JIM ----Im going to make a copy of your posting and frame it .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-07-07 at 19:07:59 PDT   Listings
SOGGY 333 I differ with you about cheap stamps in the past and today .

Would agree with you that there is about 100,000 and maybe now 150,000 different cheap stamps that have gone nowhere price wise .But there are many stamps that where sold in cheap box lots during the lame 1970's and 1980's .That today on e-bay can fetch a good increase for example a cigarbox of mix U.S. which I sold for $8.00 to $10.00 thru stamp newspaper ads ,has now recently been getting $35.00 to $70.00 per box on e-bay .Also lots like a 100 Saar or 100 Danzig which were 2 cent each stamps now get 9 cents or 12 cents each on e-bay . So good maketing and the right presentation can yield a satisfactory result for the seller today .....paul

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-07-07 at 19:00:51 PDT   Listings
Dang Paul

You are working too hard.
Apart from the lower case i's, your last post was almost spelling and grammatically perfect.

:-)
Posted by djs127   ( 587 ) on May-07-07 at 18:47:55 PDT   Listings
Anne - You are speaking of Ron Ritzer correct?
Last year when my wife and I were coming back from an antique store I asked her to go to his store so I could have a look (I have only been at his shop once a few years ago). I wasn't able to find it. I called him but he wasn't in.
Can you email me directions to his store with some landmarks?
I used to go to the Springfield stamp show and even was a dealer there a few times when Ron's father ran it.
I heard from a few dealers that the last dealer who ran the Springfield show stiffed the hotel for a lot of money and no
no stamp show can come in there unless they pay off the old debt.
David Snyder
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-07-07 at 18:47:41 PDT   Listings
MUST OF BEEN IN THE SUN TOO LONG There are so many postings today that I agree with .

ANNE agree with the statement that high quality collections {worldwide }are a thing of the past ,the pockets must be too deep .

KCHRIST Agree with the statement that there is a huge amount of cash out there and looking for a place to put it .

DAVID B. Having sat in a few auctions im always surprised by the money and the demand & frenzy from worldwide collectors who eagerly bid for nice material,yes good stuff sells well .

PROCHUTE Your statement ----I believe that is where true philatelic enjoyment lies--------is different for each one of us ,today after having a good day at work and a profitible one ,i plan to sit down with a box of plate number coil used stamps which in the philatelic picture of things is worthless but after a day of physical work its heaven to sit and sort out and put in a stockbook .....paul

Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 18:42:06 PDT   Listings
reddog,

who knows, but why limit it to China, what about Russia, India, Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, Mexico, Brazil, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines and another 100 countries, they all have expanding middle classes with huge populations some of which earn more now than many western countries. Indonesia is a good example, there are plenty of Starbuck franchises and a cup of coffee costs more than an average worker earns in a day but they are all crowded with affluent, high income earning Indonesian Yuppies who sit down with their laptops and chat away for hours whilst drinking two or 3 cups of coffee and a couple of slices of Cheesecake.

Just checked, 49 branches in Indonesia,

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/locator/ViewAll.aspx?a=1&CountryID=111&FC=RETAIL&City=

over 200 in China (including Hong Kong, 92 in Shanghai)

http://www.starbucks.com/retail/locator/ViewAll.aspx?a=1&CountryID=45&FC=RETAIL&City=

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-07-07 at 18:38:16 PDT   Listings
D2

The way I see it, and I could very well be wrong, is that China is letting HK proceed with its BC proclavities simply because it is an income generating affair (from the philatelic viewpoint).
Prior to Chinese acquisition, HK already had one of the best internet set-ups in Asia. To denigrate it to conform with the rest of the country would be like shooting oneself in the foot.
As of 20 years ago, the chances of successfully making an international phone call from China were unbelievably small and very expensive.
I would imagine the possibilities of an internet connection, even today, would be available to less than 0.01% of the 1.3 billion population.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on May-07-07 at 18:29:54 PDT   Listings
EBUDDAH To answer your question ....early Cuba has been strong and prices have climb very well over the past few years .The buyers are strong both in Florida and Spain .The Scott catalog is misleading during a recent visit to a Florida stamp bourse most sellers were using a Spanish catalog which had much higher prices ....paul
Posted by red-dog9   ( 2934 ) on May-07-07 at 18:14:03 PDT   Listings
DB & PROCHUTE
Further to the Chinese demand, the big question is what will be popular collecting areas for Chinese collectors 15-20 years from now. By then, China's middle class will have grown exponentially, all looking for ways to spend their new-found $$$
Rick
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 18:11:30 PDT   Listings
IO, as far as I know there are no limitations on the Hong Kong populace restricting internet access or their purchasing material world wide.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 18:10:00 PDT   Listings
IO, it may be part of China but politically it has a different status and philatelically it has a different sytem and clubs are run without the officialdom controlling them that is is done in the rest of China. If you check the FIP membership list you will see that Hong Kong is a separate member,

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-07-07 at 18:05:36 PDT   Listings
I’d like to bring up a point made several days ago by oas-cny. eBay and APS forced him to terminate several auctions where they had deemed the stamps were reperforated. While that in itself sounds laudable, it isn’t, because while they manage to shoot down lots worth a couple of dollars they leave those up that are major rip-offs.

This for instance is not possibly a Scott 79, and even a child could see that it is not grilled all over, the requirement for a 79. I contacted the seller, telling him the stamp was not a 79, and also notified eBay. Nothing, of course, was done.

I too have been nagged to death by petty APS quibbles about my auctions, so much so that I will never again offer anything for sale on eBay as “jaywild”. The fact is that if all the system can do is flush out petty offenses and let the gross misdescriptions sail by, then it isn’t working.

Jim
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-07-07 at 18:00:20 PDT   Listings
D2

I'm afraid you have to step into the 21st century.
Hong Kong is now part of China, even if it was for over 100 years part of the British Empire/Commonwealth.

At the moment China has no desire to allow the populace to go online and buy stamps via the internet, though they have no problems with dealers selling chinese stamps on the internet.
If they would only lower their postal charges, they could probably sell a lot more.
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-07-07 at 17:44:34 PDT   Listings
NOIP… Got a couple nice covers today…

This was an experimental American machine used in 1889 and 1890 in Boston. All known examples are third class, without date, but the nice thing about this example is that it received a Newton cancel which pins down the date to 5 Nov 1889.

Next is this cover. Long an “unknown” the cancel has recently been definitely identified as a Pearson-Hill.

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 17:39:27 PDT   Listings
Jimbo, no need to, you already have enough nous,

David B.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 352 ) on May-07-07 at 17:39:14 PDT   Listings
Eight -- 8 --
This 1830 entire letter is from Christiania (now Oslo) to Putney, London via Hamburg, re-directed to Christchurch Oxford. Putney Country Sorting Office evening duty datestamp in blue, and various transfer to General Post datestamps.
rated 8 in mss ~~ 2d in local post, 8d in General Post, Oxford-54 miles
Norway did not introduce postal markings until 1845.
This is a very long letter reporting on a meeting with members of the Norwegian Government, with descriptions of a large fire and of a Coach robbery - an interesting read.
Here it is opened out for display.

Linda
with thanks to Vic.
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-07-07 at 17:35:11 PDT   Listings
Thanks to all who proved again that every day there is something new to learn. Nous is an attribute I shall try to cultivate!

jimbo
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-07-07 at 17:30:50 PDT   Listings
soggy333… Wow, thanks. I never knew what that shell was, but your info fits perfectly. The Long Beach Navy Yard was one of the biggest in the country at one time, and so had junk around from all eras. Years before I got to the mill a cutter out in the yard ran into a live shell and the ensuing explosion separated him from his legs (and his life.)

The most sought-after scrap was from tool manufacturers. Craftsman, Proto and several others I can’t remember would truck stuff down to the mill every six months or so. The mag crane operator would dip into the pile and then dump it on the mill floor back by the load door, and then there would be a free-for-all of guys grabbing whatever tools they wanted. Whenever a tool was returned to the manufacturer it would automatically be slated for scrap, no matter if it was perfectly brand new, and any slip in the manufacturing process meant that particular tool also would go in the rejects. Sometimes the tiniest flake of chrome would come off the edge of a wrench, and that was enough to render it unsaleable. Everybody at the mill got thousands of dollars worth of top-notch tools. I once owned a complete set of half-inch drive Proto tools, including all varieties of drives and speed wrenches, that I ended up giving away after getting sick of lugging them to every new place I moved.

Jim
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 17:11:12 PDT   Listings
Hong Kong should not be included although it is technically part of China the system is completely different.

When I was in China for the Australia-China Stamp Exhibitions I met literally 10's of 1000's of stamp collectors but only a handful of what I would call philatelists, I know there have been a lot of changes since then and that the average city dweller has become more affluent but from those that I have met lately the number of true philatelists is still very low and their main interest is modern Chinese stamps although there is a major interest in Thematics espcially Sports & Olympic Games as well as a huge interest in worldwide Maximum Cards,

David B.



Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-07-07 at 17:00:53 PDT   Listings
D2

It is really difficult to judge.
There are many stamp stores and sidewalk "stores" in Beijing.
As peter has related, it is not easy to obtain internet access in China. Apart from the big cities like Shanghai, Hong Kong and Beijing.
However, when, and if, the Chinese have unfettered access to the internet, the explosion on the stamp market could be quite unbelievable.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 16:49:47 PDT   Listings
IO,

It all depends on what you call " stamp collecting associations ", if you mean governmental arranged meeting groups to promote the sale of current stock held by the Post Office at artificially increased prices over face value " then you are right. If you mean groups of philatelists meeting to discuss & show material from their own collections then you are wrong and the number would most probably be about 100 clubs with a few thousand members,

David B.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-07-07 at 16:40:07 PDT   Listings
According to the English-language newspaper, China has more than 47,000 stamp-collecting associations, which have 4.21 million members across the nation.

China has more associations than APS has members!!

Anyone want to say that stamp collecting is a dead hobby?

I just hope they don't go with Manchukuo!!
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 16:39:35 PDT   Listings
regarding society membership that is a different matter, most countries don't have the US model of belonging to a national philatelic association but belong to a local or specialist club. Those clubs belong to the national association and most members have no knowledge or even care what happens there as they know that the national association will do what is correct for their members. Any member of any local club can use the facilities that the national association has and non members can use most, the main exception is the borrowing of library books,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 16:35:05 PDT   Listings
prochute, you brought up an interesting aspect with your quote,

The "corpse" is alive and kicking for those who can look beyond the comfort of their US classic collections

Classical collections of all areas are beyond the financial capacity as well as the philatelic knowledge capacity (nous) of most of todays collectors and definitely will be beyond those future collectors who want to use their finances, time and brainpower on something that has a finalisation in their collecting habits and will limit their collecting to a specialised area of their own choosing.

With the immense availibility of information on the web and in printed form and their ability to show & describe their material on self made album pages philately will never die but thrive in a way unknown to us when we were young,

David B.

Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-07-07 at 16:23:11 PDT   Listings
dbenson I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding what is going on at "real" auction houses and exhibitions. I all bodes very well for philately.

With the ongoing influx of Russian immigrants here, I see better Russian collections, most assuredly formed there, fetching very nice realizations. Believe it or not, unmounted "modern" country or topical collections (complete with dinosaur stamps, Alice) do very well mostly being purchased by Asian collectors not yet into their forties.

The "corpse" is alive and kicking for those who can look beyond the comfort of their US classic collections.

Philately is everchanging and always presenting new frontiers to the astute collector.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-07-07 at 15:30:16 PDT   Listings
Linda

I rather like the idea of kangaroos bouncing off the roofs of yellow cabs in Manhattan.

At least it would make for some interesting spectacles.

It might also knock some sense into the cab drivers!!

Though I doubt it. :-)
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 352 ) on May-07-07 at 15:17:06 PDT   Listings
Roger mmm seems like Catalogue publishers dont have enough trained staff either?

io more a matter of kangaroo collectors willing and happy to hop along to an Auction house to buy, no matter where the auction is held, was more to the point.

NYC has enough public transport already without importing any, and Roos are very unreliable forms of transport!

L.:o)
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-07-07 at 15:10:25 PDT   Listings
Linda

Why would NYC dwellers want to buy kangaroos?

Is this a new form of public transport that will blend in with, and surpass yellow cabs?

Saddled Kangaroos waiting on every corner to take you to Penn station and Times Square?

Do you sit in their pouches or on their backs?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Posted by malolo   ( 841 ) on May-07-07 at 14:53:51 PDT   Listings
Lindy -
Here's a crusty old curmudgeon's answer.
Nobody under 55 knows anything about stamps and that's why we have to answer so many questions here!!!##@!@!
Who needs t describe stamps when we have eBay? I just sent off emails to sellers representing to have Switzerland 87b (Scott - Zumstein 71E) to tell them their examples don't have the requisite date on the cancel, nor the correct number of perfs on each side. Scott could make it a lot easier for collectors, but to look in a catalogue that lists stamps as - 1901-03 perf 11 1/2 x 12 seems easy. The reality is that earlier stamps with a 11 3/4 x 11 3/4 arre listed by Scott as 11 1/2 x 11 1/2, so the collector or dealer lists incorrectly. It would be very good of Scott to list certain stamps by 1/4 perf to end this misidentity problem.
Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-07-07 at 14:30:55 PDT   Listings
Nouse = savvy
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 352 ) on May-07-07 at 14:30:53 PDT   Listings
Peter correct! David's talking Aussie-English on the USA board again!!

I agree with what David said, an example is the recent $6m sale of Australian material, in NY. the doomsayers all said, 'why would you sell Kangaroos in NYC? it will be a flop'. It wasnt and everything sold way above the estimated prices too.
Oversubscribed Exhibitions and Standing Room Only Specialized Auctions show there are still enough serious collectors out there, collecting.

What is a serious problem for the hobby is the lack of training, expertise and $-encouragement for the TRADE. There are fewer and fewer junior dealers, or assistant describers around, they will decide if the hobby has a life or not. Look around at any Show, the dealers are for the most over 55 and do not have younger trainee staff. 30 or 40 years ago every dealer had some younger staff members! The hourly rate for auction describers does not attract philatelists to the Trade.
Without knowledgeable dealers and describers the hobby is indeed in trouble.

Linda
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 14:28:31 PDT   Listings
Jimbo,

take away the E at the end

Nous = commonsense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nous

David B.
Posted by stampmad   ( 1084 ) on May-07-07 at 14:27:49 PDT   Listings
Actually David misspelt it. nouse = nous

Means common sense. Streetwise may be a similar term.

Marius
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 76 ) on May-07-07 at 14:18:23 PDT   Listings
nouse=know how; good old fashioned English slang word.
Posted by abt1950   ( 225 ) on May-07-07 at 14:14:48 PDT   Listings
"nose" maybe? as in a nose for quality?
Posted by abt1950   ( 225 ) on May-07-07 at 14:13:58 PDT   Listings
Afternoon/evening/morning from a cooler NJ.

David B: I think there will always be sore worldwide collectors out there. But there will be far fewer who can amass comprehensive, high quality collections. The pockets needed to accomplish that (not to mention the number of albums) are much deeper than they used to be.

David S: I'm also a used catalog buyer, and that only every few years. One of the advantages of a local brick & mortar shop is that I can pick up used copies that others have traded in when the new volumes come out. My current set is 2006 (bought in 2007), which I picked up a year or two earlier than usual because of the switch to color. I've also been the beneficiary of Ron's occasional backroom housecleaning and have a number of vintage specialized country catalogs from the 1980s. Knowledge is power.

Anne
Posted by jimbo   ( 394 ) on May-07-07 at 14:06:33 PDT   Listings
David B.,
Did you mean this kind of nouse: "A nouse is a computer mouse steered by the nose and eyelids?" Or was it some other kind? I can't find a word that fits the context of your comment at 13:25:49 PDT.

jimbo
Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on May-07-07 at 13:32:49 PDT   Listings
Jaywild
OK it looks like a 4inch deck gun armor piercing round from any ship smaller than a battleship. It is missing the pointy windscreen portion that was press fit over the ogive. That kind came in a brass cartridge and predates WWII.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 13:25:49 PDT   Listings
prochute,

I agree with virtually everything you said,

Phialtely is not dead, it is very much alive, go to any real Auction House when a top quality collection is being broken up and see the demand & frenzy from world wide collectors eagerly bidding away to obtain the choice items.

Virtually every major exhibition is over subscribed by multiples of available exhibit space even at the enormous increase of frame fees over the past few years.

It is alive & well but of course in the future philatelists will be gleaned from later starters than in the past but these will have more knowledge, nouse, common sense as well as capital to outlay on specific areas and the days of world wide collectors will be as dead as a dodo,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 13:15:54 PDT   Listings
Paolo,

I'm with you,

I just thought it was a haphazard amalgamation of unsold lots with a few returns that included fake cancels and why would anyone in the world want to bid on it unless it was very cheap and they wanted to try to make a profit by breaking it up. It is next to useless to an advanced collector who would be better off trying to buy the few items he needs instead of all the excrement that comes with it,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1051 ) on May-07-07 at 13:15:51 PDT   Listings
Good day all.

dutchman

You can see a whole series of Foochowfoo cancels here.
Posted by dutchman2006   ( 119 ) on May-07-07 at 12:47:26 PDT   Listings
I was wondering if anyone could help in this situation. I have some stamps from the Hong Kong Treaty Ports with the Foochowfoo cancellations, what I would like to know is that when I went through the Webb and Schoenfeld books why is there only listing with line drawings of Foochow and chefoo not Foochowfoo, is there something I'm missing here? Could you someone send me line drawings of the Foochowfoo Circular Date Stamps, my email address is sbeerenfeng@rogers.com
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-07-07 at 12:45:05 PDT   Listings
Geez, the BOLD!!!! :-(((((((((((
Posted by vonbag   ( 174 ) on May-07-07 at 12:44:34 PDT   Listings
Mitchell<.b>,
To be fully honest I will tell you what I think about that collection.
Firstly, I do not like the seller very much, I had the chance of knowing.
Unbelievable for me that the reserve is above 30000 euro.
That means I could (but not should) be rich!!!!!!!
I value the lot showed (eBay item #330115796482) about 15000 euro (~20000 US dollars), not much more.
I skipped on the fake FIUME and all od the various fake cancels proposed, i.e. on the Manzoni 1923 5 lire.
The Raybaudi certificates are not taken in consideration by me: IU know better than them, and they too often screw up.
This is just for the education of the public, Mitchell.
I knew a guy who lived in Zeist, here where close to where I live, who had a full sheet of these here on top. He sold it and he moved back to Israel (his home country). I am not so impressed by the San Marino and Vatican City sections: that is beginners material, in my opinion.

All the best,
Paolo

Posted by djs127   ( 587 ) on May-07-07 at 12:23:15 PDT   Listings
Last week I was able to win a used Scott 2007 Volume 1 below $20. I have purchased last years scott catalogs on Ebay many times over the years and find everyone is happy.
I assume most of you do the same rather than pay full retail each year or 2?
David Snyder
Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-07-07 at 12:23:02 PDT   Listings
soggy333… I don’t know what that shell is exactly, except that it’s some kind of US Navy ordnance. The steel mill where I worked in the late 70’s and early 80’s bought steel scrap from the old Long Beach Navy Yard, but couldn’t use any steel that was “fouled” with copper or brass. Since this shell has brass rings around the base, it was useless to the mill so I was allowed to take it home.

It is quite empty inside, and no threat to anyone unless dropped on the toes.



Jim
Posted by kchrist499   ( 1108 ) on May-07-07 at 10:45:07 PDT   Listings
Some random thoughts about the future of stamp collecting:

I've been watching the demographics of our US population for over 20 years now, and I think we need to recognise that the baby boomers are ready and able to spend a great deal of money for "frivolous" pursuits.

They won't visit eBay, the WalMart of philately, but they'll frequent the top auction houses to buy almost anything... I saw that Stan Laurel's hat is being auctioned and expects to bring $15,000.

There is such a huge amount of cash in the hands of the successful 40-59 years olds that they will have to put it somewhere. I think that's why the stock market has been doing so well lately.

Now, if someone could make stamps as sexy as paintings or celebrity garbage, there would be a surge in demand.

Yours Truly,

Ken C.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3579 ) on May-07-07 at 10:18:53 PDT   Listings

to Pakistan

almost did it

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3579 ) on May-07-07 at 10:11:51 PDT   Listings

Scanned a couple items to share ...

The first is a third class envelope posted at the 2-1/2c rate. What I like about it is that a pair of 1-1/4c stamps issued for 1-1/4c non-profit mail was used. Likely a bit esoteric for most, but the only example of that franking I have encountered in 8 years of accumulating this material.

The second is one of my fabrications, a mailing
to Pakistan to a ficticious address with hopes of its return for my commemoratives on cover collection. The only encloure was 2 sheets of card stock for stiffener. It was opened at the end and resealed with brown tape as well as 2 corners peeled open looking for content. And 3 postmarks as well!!

After all that I am amazed that it was actually returned after nothing of value was found inside. Arrived 2 weeks ago, posted in November.

Hope I html-ed ok.

Jeff

Posted by ebuddah   ( 635 ) on May-07-07 at 10:03:48 PDT   Listings
Hi all,
Any Cuba collectors out there? Could you give me some leads on Internet sites or other stores where I can find some of the classic Cuba stamps...pre-USA, particularly the overprints and revalues.

Thanks!

ebuddah
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3579 ) on May-07-07 at 09:11:09 PDT   Listings

The spam-scams keep coming . . .

Dear friend:

I have bougth you the item 260079349956 of ebay I would wish that you give me the noun of the bank and your current account for do the entrance of 5,33 $

Un abrazo

Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on May-07-07 at 09:07:36 PDT   Listings
Paul

I am the wrong age, so have been forced collect at the wrong times in every cycle. When I resumed getting serious about the stamps again, around 1975, both collecting and prices started booming at that point. I ended up buying all the under $50 world wide stamps that I wanted at ridiculous prices over the years (1/2 cat,sometimes more).Remember all the squawking over the 1988 catalogs and the "net" price revisions in sussequent years? Even after the continous loss of purchasing power of a dollar bill over the last 3 decades you can pick up those same cheap stamps for the same price they were in 1980.You cannot buy a cup of coffee for a dollar even. The stamps I got from the nickel book in the 1960's are still in the nickel books. By the time I get ready to sell some stamps, the prices should drop further. The only hope for this is another 372 million Chinese getting interested in world wide collecting.
Posted by prochute   ( 67 ) on May-07-07 at 08:59:50 PDT   Listings
henrybstevens wrote:

"From reading the ads and a couple of boards I come to the conclusion that these people are fighting over a warm corpse. The stamp hobby is dying."

Yes, the hobby is dead for most, if not all FULL-TIME dealers due to the cost of overhead, shows, etc.

However, philately is alive and well as are sales of stamps and covers by PART-TIME sellers. I can personally assure you, there are quite a few reputable sellers who glean very decent PART-TIME incomes from this venue upwards of $25,000 - $75,000/annum in gross sales. These sellers are not afraid to sell pricey or classic material. Even if they net 20%+ of sales, that is a nice bit of spending cash in addition to pensions or whatever income one receives while still employed or retired.

However, the problem I see for the future of those "general" collectors who continue to buy copious amounts of material for their "collections" is that this behavior is NOT a sound method for enjoyment. Such collectors will have far too much material to deal with efficiently and should be specializing in something. I believe that is where true philatelic enjoyment lies.

Furthermore, when one gets to the veritable end of that pursuit be it exhibiting or whatever, one should move on and start anew, perhaps selling such holdings for profit or loss.

If one is thinks that a stamp purchased at 3 cents will eventually glean 6 cents each hence realizing a profit of 3 cents each, such an investor should rethink such a strategy. A common stamp will always be a common stamp and such a meager profit is not worthy of the time and effort involved, regardless of how many thousands the collector may have.

If one looks towards the future of philately with an eye for investment, you are already dean in the water. I ask then, why care about the future of the hobby at all? Most of us will be long gone anyway... Do one thing. Sell to auction houses before the end for your childre will only be burdened by your collection in the long run. So enjoy what you have NOW.

Sorry for my philosophical rant but the hobby is alive and well for NOW.


Posted by soggy333   ( 55 ) on May-07-07 at 08:55:29 PDT   Listings
Jatwild
Is that a 4.5" British howitzer projectile--or what?
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1976 ) on May-07-07 at 07:24:23 PDT   Listings
stamphick: I heard back from Connie. The next website update is May 11 and the changes will be done then.

Posted by jaywild   ( 939 ) on May-07-07 at 06:12:50 PDT   Listings
Colin… Nice to see you here. Don’t be such a stranger.

infla-alec... Very nice! 100 billion marks to mail a letter. That’s one way of getting rid of the national debt!



Jim
Posted by hungaryjim   ( 892 ) on May-07-07 at 05:12:05 PDT   Listings
infla-alec Hi Alec, Your Ungarn cover looks to me to be franked with the engraved 2 kr. stamp and postmarked at PEST/ ESTE. The date has an unclear month, my guess would be 9.

Jimbo2
Posted by cwhutch   ( 655 ) on May-07-07 at 03:45:57 PDT   Listings
Good morning.

Hutch
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1301 ) on May-07-07 at 03:40:24 PDT   Listings
Greetings

and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all



Jim L.

member
Posted by dbenson   ( 8174 ) on May-07-07 at 02:21:00 PDT   Listings
Alec,

presume you are sad to be back in England after the good food in Essen,

Was impressed by some of your purchases especially the Finland to Riga cover and the Romania Galatz to Jassy, they will be fine additions to any specialised collection,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 531 ) on May-07-07 at 01:59:23 PDT   Listings
Hello everyone. I'm back from my short trip over to Germany and it was really great to meet up with so many friends again. One or two beers were sank and many a happy hour spent discussing various aspects of the hobby.
We met up at the big stamp show in the city of Essen which is also where the next German International exhibition will take place in 2009. That is also where I hope to make my debut at International level exhibiting. An excellent venue with easy to use public transport, easy access via the Autobahn, (freeway for US drivers) and although I didn't buy anything for my own collection a few friends did manage to pick up material. I didn't expect to be able to find material for myself anyway but I take every opportunity to go to such shows and simply enjoy the occassion.
That said you remember before I mentioned a friend finding for me this cover and I asked about the best way to iron out any creases. Well I picked up that item and the creases are very minor so no need for any clean up work. It was also confirmed as being the extremely rare cylinder type printing and is the only largest known multiple of that stamp used in December 1923. Needless to say I am delighted to be the owner and the nicest part is that the many other Infla friends who got to see the cover also were very pleased to actually see such a discovery in the flesh so to speak.
Now on my travels I also picked up what I thought were interesting early classical period (?)covers from other countries. None of which I know a great deal about. So if anyone does happen to be a specialist of any of the following and can provide some information please feel free to say here or contact me via e-mail with your thoughts. For the sake of saving me multiple HTML script I have uploaded all the covers to one album which hopefully can be seen under Europe Postal History
I know specialists for Austria and Spain so they don't pose too many problems. The Denmark and Hungary items I hope Knud-Erik and Hungary Jim can help with. But everyone is free to put in their two cents worth. If anyone has a question about anything then also please just ask and lets see if as a board we can scrape some answers together.