eBay Chat: Stamps

eBay chatboard archive: Mar-05-07 to May-11-07 week

Posted by 22028 ( 1574

)

on Mar-11-07 at 23:54:41 PDT

Anne, can you explain me this result of an Egypt Cover? The Motor mail label has nothing to do with the cover which is a local cover, sent within Cairo. The motor mail label was issued by Egypt Postal Administration for mail to be transported by the Overland Mail Baghdad-Haifa and makes no sense nor does it serves a purpose on that particular cover.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=200085348515

Posted by bjornmu ( 897

) on Mar-11-07 at 23:42:48 PDT

Lavart, thanks, I'm honoured! But please note, those overprints were the only stamps I showed that I did not own. I thought that was clear.

Are we contonuing the judging? I have saved the entire board as of now, which I hope contains all the entries.

Posted by lavart ( 1329

)

on Mar-11-07 at 21:55:05 PDT

Sorry for checking in so late today to announce this week's winner. I enjoyed looking at all of the non-English alphabet items. Thanks to all of you who posted items.

And the winner is ........(drumroll)......

bjornmu for his Iceland overprints. Congratulations! Enjoy your "prize".

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-11-07 at 21:23:29 PDT

Roly: Ah, oh well. I wasn't sure since my Gibbons book shows the watermark right-side up.
Great info though! I've got your site bookmarked in my stamp folder.

Posted by sheryll*net ( 91

)

on Mar-11-07 at 21:21:21 PDT

0 is for 0 feedbacks, and 0 items actually owned.

S2

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Mar-11-07 at 21:03:38 PDT

How's this for a DANGIT:
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=150098471617

I have very good taste and this seller has very interesting accumulation that he's been selling for a number of months. I got my 1880 card from Switzerland to Trinidad from him. It migth pay for others to look in occasionally. I have no interest in realizations in these auctions.

Roger

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Mar-11-07 at 20:49:08 PDT

Alec -
I’m afraid you are out of sequence. The number 100,000 would be the week of April 10, 3930 AD. Even Mitchell isn’t that far out! )’>) Fun to see such a simp[le looking card is so rare.

Paolo -
I googled your name and find many references to an expert of Italian stamps and hypertension. Do they go together? )'>)

I know one should never recommend a collecting area, but filling holes in a Swiss album con become very expensive. I went that route until only the most expensive were left and I resorted to buying "seconds", which we all know doesn't pay off. BUT, it got me focused on what is truely rare and just not of high catalogue value. It was a confirmation of my GB stamp collecting where all the expensive "rare" stamps, such as the 1929 PUC Ł1, and a number of high denomination Victorian stamps were all available at nearly every auction, one just had to cough up the money to fill hole. I thought that was an expensive manner to tie up my cash. I've had much more fun collecting Strubels, when the occasion suits me, and my cancels, which are mostly cheap. I think there are other areas of Swiss collecting that can be started where the postal history side is much more interesting than the stamps themselves. Here is a truely rare combination - a Zum 71E (Sc 87b) with a Lausanne razor cancel. This device was used on regular ooutgoing mail so this stamp had to be used on a quadruple weight international letter, internal letters were only 10 centimes (so let's discount this use), or a parcel. I've never seen anything other than card and letter uses of razor cancels. I would love to own the item from ewhich this stamp originated!

NOIP -
I tried to find a "Zero" cover but came up with nothing. So it goes. I'll keep looking.

Roger,
Retreating to the balcony wearing my asbestos coat. LOL

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-11-07 at 19:08:27 PDT

Alan,

contact Paul B in Kanbra, quokka999, he is into Indo China Postal History and should have the rate charts,

David B.

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-11-07 at 18:54:19 PDT

dragonstamps
What you have is the common watermark :(
Have a look at my page dealing with Watermarks for this series and that should help you.
NB: Read the instructions at the bottom of the page !!
Hope that helps
cheers
Roly

Posted by jherek99 ( 371

) on Mar-11-07 at 18:38:53 PDT

Can anyone tell me the purpose of the fractional issues of French Indochina (1/10c, 1/5c, 2/5c, 4/5c).

All assistance reatly appreciated

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1261

)

on Mar-11-07 at 18:03:18 PDT

In keeping with the "Numbers" theme here’s a Wallace for President mailed in Indianapolis that was valued as “0” (zero) by the post-office. The 6 cent Postage Due stamp is precanceled with amute oval.

Jim L.

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Mar-11-07 at 17:54:02 PDT

Paolo How about some certs from Stolow, Pape or SIGCC?

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-11-07 at 16:45:25 PDT

Paolo, in Malaga there was an entry of Spain from a South American country that was noted to have 16 forgeries, some with certificates which are not usually acceptable in Spain. If the group that is judging notes any forgeries then it is passed on to a special group to verify whether or not the items are bad and it is not the group that is judging that makes the final decision. For each forgery noted there is a loss of 5 points but if there are too many then the entry is disqualified. Of course in this case it was disqualification which is a very black mark against the exhibitor and also a small mark against the commissioner as he should have checked the material as well and advised the exhibitor.

David B.

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-11-07 at 16:07:43 PDT

David B. ,
Your messages are very dense with significance and, as always, very instructive for "us": (simple stamp collectors).
On the exhibiting point of view, I wouldn't be hesitant to throw somebody out of the contest.
As a matter of fact,
I am going to do it right now.
I know almost all what's needed to know on postal history (not only on my field).
I can discern CRAP (or elaborated CRAP) from original postal objects (in general).
Please, look for my full name on the internet.
I was chosen to be "judge" on an Italian contest,
I am nastier than usual there, I give plenty of advise for those who can (or want to) read it all is for the GOOD OF PHILATELY this is/was and will be my MAIN concern)
;-:)
Search my name on internet
Kindest regards,
Paolo Bagaglia

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-11-07 at 16:06:34 PDT

D2

Of course not.
And RPSL prices just went up.
Now the minimum charge is Ł25 for non members, excluding postage charges.

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-11-07 at 15:58:16 PDT

IO,

but would you have sent the stamps to the Royal if you had to pay the full rate,

What this proves is that you should not rely on certificates or to use the correct term for some of them " opinions ",

David B.

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-11-07 at 15:55:24 PDT

IO,

Most items that are sent to the recognised experts are the more difficult items to verify that need reference material that an ordinary collector does not have and the expert does.

The stamp that Paolo mentioned would have been immediately condemned if offered in any Italian sale or by any of the judges if shown at an exhibition with or without a certificate and issuing a certificate for it was foolish and may have ruined the certifiers reputation and possibly a fine for making a huge mistake,

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-11-07 at 15:51:21 PDT

D1

True, the only items I have sent to the RPSL for myself were to certify that they had been regummed, which I already knew.

People who rely on certificates to authenticate the veracity of the stamps they are accumulating are not collectors, they are investors who haven't a clue as to what they are doing.

On the other hand, when you come to selling the stamps to those self-same accumulators, it is economically advantageous to have second-party proof as to the correctness of the stamp(s).

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-11-07 at 15:35:20 PDT

IO, forget buying & selling as it is irrelevant and is usually only used by collectors who do not have the expertise themselves.

A certificate is only issued to confirm that an item is what it purports to be and it's condition.

In some countries certificates are only accepted if they are issued by the recognised expert. Of course experts make mistakes but they should not make simple mistakes as in the case that Paolo mentioned. The list of recognised experts change from time to time for various reasons including making mistakes whether on purpose or inadvertently. In other countries certificates issued by philatelic organisations are fully recognised but not universally accepted except for certain collecting areas. Outside of those areas the certificate are not generally accepted and specific certificates are needed for the more difficult items to certify.

David B.

Posted by jane47202 ( 0 )

on Mar-11-07 at 15:26:54 PDT

thanks for the info

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-11-07 at 15:21:31 PDT

D2

Let's debate!

An individual may well be the world's expert on a specific issue, however, unless they are 100% scrupulous their opinion isn't worth a brass farthing. Each collector should be sufficiently educated in their own field that an external expert should only be considered when selling a collection rather than buying one.

jane47202

I'm sure the stamps are not in your hands.
We have no idea where they are from.
If your definition of "old" means 20th century you need to revise your views.
The big yellow box below is a good place to start.

Posted by jane47202 ( 0 )

on Mar-11-07 at 15:13:17 PDT

Hi,
I am new to Ebay and I am looking to find value of stamps in my hands.
If anyone has knowledge of old stamps I would be very greatful or where I can get the value.

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-11-07 at 15:11:49 PDT

IO,

that is debatable,

with an individual you should be getting the knowledge of a person who is the recognised expert of a particular issue or stamp but with a committee the various members who examine the item may not be conversant with the item,

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-11-07 at 15:01:40 PDT

Sitting in the middle of a thunderstorm with tornados popping up all around.

A lot to be said for submitting a stamp for certification by a committee rather than an individual.Though in most cases, an educated collector should not need certification.

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-11-07 at 14:57:04 PDT

take 2,

Paolo, it is interesting that you brought up this important subject as it has many implications (apart from your blood pressure).

About a year ago there was some comments on Richard F's board about exhibiting and showing certificates to prove that an item was genuine. One well known US judge stated that a positive certificate was proof enough and he accept it even though he personally may not have agreed with it. I would not as I have seen enough incorrect certificates to prove to me that they are fallible and if an item is faked, forged or not genuine in any way and it still has a good certificate it should still be considered bad but would not lose points for the exhibitor but comments would be made that a new certificate would be required as there are doubts with the current one,

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-11-07 at 14:36:33 PDT

Paolo, I presume you could complain to the authority that gave him his expertising credentials,

David B.

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-11-07 at 14:33:35 PDT

P.S. for the modic amount of 500 euros, I could have bought the stamp (I still can do it) and bring the documented case to the European International Court of Law!
Faking stamps is ILLEGAL.
Certifing fake stamps, for me, is TWICE as illegal!!!

Paolo

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-11-07 at 14:23:40 PDT

"Roman Staes States"... HALLO! ... Roman States!
My typing is far from being good this evening.
I am very angry with these kind of typos of myself.
But, for your own good, I hope you get the angry gist of my PREVIOUS MESSAGE.
Due to my repeated typing screw ups, which are offensive to my own person and kind of intolerable for me, I will reveal the name, which is Raybaudi.

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-11-07 at 14:16:14 PDT

RE: the REAL expert i.e. those that are recognised and to whom you have to PAY for an expertise certificate.
I recently saw at a stamp show a postage stamp I would have never in my life (not even after 4 bottles of red wine) certified.
It is a 3 cents grey of the III Issue (1867) of Roman Staes imprforated, with a recent (2001) photo certificate of a re- known Italian stamp expertiser.
His name shall remain secret, as the dealer kindly did not allow me to take a picture of the stamp and of the certificate, the first FAKE the other original.
I must say I was/am shocked, and VERY disillusioned, after all I know and all what I wrote on the internet (also on this board) about reprints of Roman Staes States, with or without FAKE cancels (an impossible cancel for that period of use!!!).

Paolo

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-11-07 at 14:15:48 PDT

Paolo, I once had a discussion with the recognised world expert of a particular issue. I asked him a question about recognising a forgery and he replied that it was a secret which had never been published in any of his articles and that he intended to keep it secret.

David B.

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-11-07 at 13:40:56 PDT

Thank you David B. and Mitchell!

David, I know that kind of experts! Men (or women) of few words, few screw ups (the error is unavoidable -- beware of the "always perfect" slogan) , mostly right, out of their experience.

Mitchell,
Your mint PAX serie is very beatiful, from "VF" to "XF" from recto, with the good values well centered.
A pleasure for the eye.
On the used section, the 80 (C) and the 1 Fr. probably bear fake cancels.

Paolo

Posted by millen43 ( 334

) on Mar-11-07 at 12:41:45 PDT

Would like to know the year that "space" stamp collecting kit, revised edition was sold at USPO. It was 42 foreign space related stamps + all the usual that are in a kit. The cost was $2.00. Thanks for any help.

Posted by bjornmu ( 897

) on Mar-11-07 at 11:31:33 PDT

0 is for 0th, as in Jan 0th on this cover from Tyler, TX (which has also produced other errors).

Or it's for 10th of the 0th month in Helsingřr, Denmark, or the 24th of the 0th month on one of these from UN Geneva. In both cases, it should have been October.

Or finally, for the 00th of July on this meter cover which also happens to be from Texas (Dallas).

Posted by greenwave4u ( 72

) on Mar-11-07 at 11:16:04 PDT

Jim Yes a bit of a hack this one going from -5 GMT to +8 GMT but what the hell, at least good for business, up to Beijing on Tuesday until Sunday, and then hopefully home for a rest as long as the wife, kids and dogs remember what I look like:-0
PS trying hard to get my spelling right but after about 14 San Miguel gets hard!

Posted by greenwave4u ( 72

) on Mar-11-07 at 11:11:25 PDT

Alec I surely will, but normally they only have HK items, shame on you for not knowing Yangs:-) Forgot to mention whilst watching Chelsea v Spurs on one screen the Rangers and Celtic supporters were having a ball on the other screen, knowing you are from North of the border did your team win:-)?? BTW HK sevens start next week have you ever seen them?
Peter

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-11-07 at 11:08:28 PDT

Peter

You sure do get around.
Maybe you will run into richwong whilst in HK.

Posted by infla-alec ( 514

)

on Mar-11-07 at 11:06:36 PDT

Peter Assuming Yangs is a stamp dealer then look out please for any German material from 1870-1923 sent there or to China. Not that I expect you to find any going cheap but if you do .....

Posted by greenwave4u ( 72

) on Mar-11-07 at 11:03:06 PDT

FWIW Just signing in from HK having been through too many time zones in the past 10 days, now in Hong Kong and have just spent a very enjoyable evening with a work colleague watching Spurs nearly beating Chelsea but in the end 3-3 and watching England beat France at Rugby ( a real game!!!).
Nearly forgot ( must keep the post stamp related, might find time to visit Yangs tomorrow!
Unfortunately not with my collection so cannot post this week, which is just as well because I have run out of ideas for this one:-)

cheers
Peter

Posted by infla-alec ( 514

)

on Mar-11-07 at 10:58:24 PDT

Jim Yes of course it was a typo and should have read 0-9.
I'm assuming we are having a week of each numeral ? I'll start with a 100,000 local letter Local letter frankings are not easy to find. In over 20 years I have only ever seen three. Two of which I own :-) This stamp comes in two shades with the better one being the deep purple. That was used on the first day of the rate for a distance postcard but is possibly unique as no examples are recorded from that particular regional post directorate, (Ober Post Direktion) before 21 Sep 1923.
Time permitting I'll try showing another time how the rates escalated and make them fit into the numeral show.

Posted by prochute ( 65

) on Mar-11-07 at 10:52:43 PDT

harrymitchell0 If you have definitive sheets ie, 1938 Presidential, 1954 Liberty or early Famous Ammerican issues, these WILL sell for 3x-5x face value if MNH and intact. Commemorative sheets from the 1930's will ususally fetch more than face. Later commemoratives (1940-1080) will maybe get face but are really postage due to the quantites printed.

Early Israel w/o tabs can be interesting. Later issues could be sold as bulk lots.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-11-07 at 10:43:42 PDT

Alec

I think it is 0-9.
With all those inflations, you shouldn't have a problem with posting stamps with lots of zeros.

Posted by infla-alec ( 514

)

on Mar-11-07 at 10:21:46 PDT

Non English letter show Wow I was really amazed at the vast range of excellent material so many managed to come up with. I may have missed a couple of postings due to being away from the computer this last week a fair bit.Although I didn't have anything to contribute myself it did make very interesting reading.
Am I correct in that this week we are now moving on to the 0-1 showings ?

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-11-07 at 09:22:53 PDT

Here is a neat Advert Postcard, Returned IN tact but the Retuen card did not pay a penalty.
COILuse

Read Card message
Prepaid

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-11-07 at 09:18:16 PDT

JAYWILD I turned it yes I thought a nice Printed rate cover.

Posted by cobbie10 ( 5988

)

on Mar-11-07 at 09:06:49 PDT

Harry US sheets / mint stamps for the period you mentioned are worth no more than face. Either use them on your mailing or, if you are in need of some cash, list them on Ebay and start them out at 80% of face value.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-11-07 at 07:42:01 PDT

Good day all.

Here is cancel for September 0 at no pm in the year 2000.
Actually sent September 11th 2000, on the first day of the new post office.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-11-07 at 07:41:24 PDT

CONT------Should of said the cancel would carry the name Fanning Island and not Gil. & Ellice Island.Fanning Island fell under the control of the New Zealand Post Office around 1902.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-11-07 at 07:17:59 PDT

ROLY ----Interesting subject ,Now off to clean out all the local stamp dealers of their UNIVERSIALS. The cost should be about 5 cent each or less .This would give me a chance to follow and also make up a page to follow your layout.

Don't forget to look for Gilbert and Ellice Island cancels on that issue .I have info somewhere in my files about that stamp used there.But sad to say my information files are lacking organization ....paul

Posted by oggilby ( 1192

)

on Mar-11-07 at 06:05:23 PDT

Greetings to all from a time shifted Central Maryland. I work up this morning and fouund I was in the Atlantic Standard Time Zone (otherwise know as EST for the next 8 months). Pretty soon everybody will be shifted one hour all year, all in the name of conserving energy.

It sure great to have so many people posting links to their interests/obsessions for the benifit of us all. Keep up the good work, you are inspiring the procrastinating lurkers (Peter with the many eights knows who I mean)!

BTW--does Cat who walks still lurk here (Hi Cat)? Also speak up Maarten, he of triangular obsessions! Long time no speaky.

Off the enjoy the finally rising sun and feed the birds (and squirrels)!

Posted by cwhutch ( 641

)

on Mar-11-07 at 04:30:37 PDT

Good morning.

Hutch

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1261

)

on Mar-11-07 at 03:21:53 PDT

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Jim L.

Posted by sheryll*net ( 91

)

on Mar-11-07 at 03:10:41 PDT

Just checking in to see how well eBay is handling the change to daylight saving. It's 3:11 (PDT) here at present......

S2

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-10-07 at 23:26:55 PST

dragonstamps Your example is SG356. Check to see if the watermark is inverted or not. The CV's are considerably different :)
cheers
Roly

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-10-07 at 22:52:19 PST

It is useful. That issue has always stumped me, if I'm trying to use SG numbers. Thanks.

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-10-07 at 22:45:56 PST

dragonstamps
Yes your example is one which has the 4 o'clock flaw. Your example however is not the so called 'dot' plate but the later 'royle' print.
Here is the analysis to identify it.
Hope this is useful (that will be $25 thank you :-O )
Cheers
Roly

Posted by mini*lindy ( 326

)

on Mar-10-07 at 22:26:03 PST

Oh ebay monitoring staff working fast today. !!

HI Roly, I must say, although Im not a stamp collector, I love looking at all the work you put into your UNIVERSALS !!

Linda

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-10-07 at 22:24:51 PST

That gibberish that he/she keeps posting makes no sense whatsoever. In fact, if I do start to understand it, I think I'll be worried.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 326

)

on Mar-10-07 at 22:20:43 PST

OH dear the animals are loose in the zoo again!

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-10-07 at 22:20:06 PST

Oh boy. I thought the full moon was last week.

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-10-07 at 22:07:52 PST

How rare are the extreme wear example?
The best(most worn) I can come up with looks to be medium wear.

It's amazing that they used that plate that long.

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-10-07 at 21:50:09 PST

One LAST try...
NZ

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-10-07 at 21:45:11 PST

Roly: My eyes are not good enough, but is this a 4 o'clock flaw example?
http://img.inkfrog.com/pix/Dragonstamps/nz1penny.jpg>NZ

Posted by aard0 ( 573

) on Mar-10-07 at 21:42:54 PST

Roly, yes the 4 o'clock flaw gets more & more obvious as the plate wears down. It just seemed strange to me that I couldn't see the dot in any of the examples of the "dot plate". :-)

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-10-07 at 21:10:47 PST

Charles You have just opened a huge can or worms :-O
The "dot" plate is a difficult one and often difficult to distinguish it from the the Royle printing. BUT..... IF your examples are faded and worn as my examples are AND they show the 4 o'clock flaw THEN they must be dot plate examples.
Hope that helps :)
Cheers
Roly

? The New Zealand Penny Universal

Posted by aard0 ( 573

) on Mar-10-07 at 21:03:12 PST

Hi, Roly! Just passing through here, and I noticed the link to your NZ page. I have a friend who collects NZ, so I'll pass it on to him. Took a look myself, and am very impressed! What a difference between early & late printings! I'll have to reexamine my own copies, just to see where they fall. But except for the last one, with the dot circled, I can't see the dot on any of the others. Is it there? Maybe hiding in a shadow right next to a perf?
--Charles

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-10-07 at 20:25:32 PST

IO I think it is almost an inexhaustable subject !!
The number of variations and combinations thereof are in the thousands!!
However, I am starting to get to my more exotic and rarer examples now (damn sight more expensive as well!!).
Some of the more exotic examples (mixed perfs and double perfs etc) I have as UHM (NHM) but not as VFU or FU. One of the challenges I have set for this site is to have Used examples only. (It would be easier to go down to Campbell Paterson for example and just open the wallet, WIDE, and buy what I needed in NHM) Finding these examples as used, and still on covers if possible, is the really exciting stuff after a 100 years or so.
Cheers
Roly

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-10-07 at 20:11:36 PST

Roly

Keep it up.
I think we all read your site, though we might not mention it.
A mark of respect to someone who has put more work into a particular topic than we have ourselves.

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-10-07 at 20:03:50 PST

Thanks Jim for the encouragement. I have had some comment from some of the local dealers who have 'discovered' my site and they are using it to re-evaluate their stock :) (darn !!! )
Several are using it as a valuable reference source as well which is encouraging.
Cheers

Roly

Posted by harrymitchell0 ( 309

)

on Mar-10-07 at 19:50:26 PST

also do you know of any online price guides of US mint Stamps including sheets? (I would say most of his stamps are from the 1930 until late 1970's including First day issues.

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-10-07 at 19:46:41 PST

due2cents… Very nice! That is an especially lovely early Barry Philadelphia mark. By the way, I think your coil is a private perf type.

Roly… On the contrary, I always look at your offerings, though I confess I am occasionally lost in the finer points. But what you put up today is right up my alley. As a printer such things interest me quite a bit. We had some early issues of the US that were printed from plates that became progressively more worn as they were used, but nothing like that NZ “dot plate” progression. Quite nice.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by harrymitchell0 ( 309

)

on Mar-10-07 at 19:44:20 PST

dragonstamps can you tell me if it's worth the time or are they really worth nothing? He has the old ones from the first day of Israel becoming a state.

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-10-07 at 19:35:16 PST

For those who are interested (probably a smaller and smaller audience by now :-O )
My latest page for the New Zealand Penny Universal.
This page shows the progressive wear of the Plates used to print what is known as the "Dot" plate series. The plates only lasted a couple of years but they sure did churn out a fair number of stamps. Over the two years the plates degraded hugely and this page shows the progressive wear in eight stages.
Finally click on any image on the page for an enlarged view. The last image is of interest in that it defines the "Dot Plate" image in pictorial terms.
Hope you enjoy
Cheers
Roly

? The New Zealand Penny Universal

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-10-07 at 19:34:49 PST

Harry: Scott lists both; the prices with tabs(for the complete set), and without tabs(each stamp shows a price).
Many public libraries carry the Scott catalogs.
The price reflects what a dealer might charge if you bought just one set or stamp.

Posted by harrymitchell0 ( 309

)

on Mar-10-07 at 19:21:45 PST

My father has a very nice collection of Israel stamps. He had removed some of the tabs on the stamps. This was a big mistake since the prices are with the tabs. Any way of find out what the going, rates of them are without the tabs.

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-10-07 at 18:16:09 PST

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-10-07 at 18:11:28 PST

Jaywild Got this to add to my Printed Matter
pile
Nice

and this Grilled ThreeCents

which are fun to look at but hard to de crypt

I had a good day Collecting
and removed another Scott number from my list of all possible(correct in period) uses on postcard
http://usera.imagecave.com/Prometheus/sharing2/scan0005.jpg">Check-ur-own-book

and I like to look at the ways affixers treated stamps
Like this COIL

Posted by librarian-c ( 951

)

on Mar-10-07 at 16:56:44 PST

http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-Old-Liberty-15-Cent-Stamp_W0QQitemZ220090508795QQcategoryZ675QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This was the original link to the suspect listing with images of the front of one stamp and the back of a completely different (damaged) stamp. The listing is still there, it was just my link that was bad.

Enough said!!

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-10-07 at 16:46:09 PST

Paolo I really have not been following the Swiss discussion. This should be a bigger scan than the one on my site of C1 & 2 (I do not have certs on them). Also included are the used PAX I have. My mint PAX (as you know) are here If you would like a bigger scan of them let me know.
*PooF* ..........I'm off for the evening

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Mar-10-07 at 16:31:17 PST

D2 Somebody has got to be kidding

Posted by librarian-c ( 951

)

on Mar-10-07 at 16:28:46 PST

http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-Old-Liberty-15-Cent-Stamp_W0QQitemZ220090508795QQcategoryZ675QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This was the original link.

Posted by librarian-c ( 951

)

on Mar-10-07 at 16:23:15 PST

Well it looks like eBay finally removed the page. It was working about 3 minutes ago. Guess you won't be able to see the images after all.

Timing is everything, isn't it!! bigbaba917 is the seller. There are/were a couple other listings for coins and jewellery as of a few minutes ago. I doubt that ID will be functioning soon either then.

Buyer beware!!

John A

Posted by librarian-c ( 951

)

on Mar-10-07 at 16:16:13 PST

For what it's worth:

Evening folks. I just wanted to share something with you. It was discovered that another fraud was attempted on eBay in the STAMPS category. This seller took the legitimate scan from another seller's listing and tried to sell the same item.
Here are the links to the two listings:

Original Listing

Suspect Listing

Check it out - if you open each auction link as a separate window you can do side by side comparison. It's obvious down to the speck of dust to right of stamp! The seller, at the request of a couple of emails, finally posted a scan of the back of the stamp, which was damaged and not the same at all. This seller has zero feedbacks and has now canceled the listing due to too many outside questions. eBay was contacted by several individuals and their response was less than helpful.

I just want to make you aware that this seller has taken someone else's image and tried to sell as their own and may try again.

John A

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Mar-10-07 at 15:29:23 PST

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Posted by jim_lawler ( 1261

)

on Mar-10-07 at 15:26:34 PST

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s a Israel.

If not for the return address it’d taken me a while to sort out this one from Japan.

A Japanese Quail.

A Korean stamp.

Another Korean stamp.

TransJordan cover.

A Saudi Arabia.

And last of all, a Siam.

Jim L.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-10-07 at 14:48:16 PST

Pro

I don't know much about Henry Clay, but Clay Henry's signature would have been worth a lot (if he could write).

Posted by dbenson ( 7967

)

on Mar-10-07 at 14:39:38 PST

Paolo,

thanks,

it is interesting that you mention that there was already forgeries appearing in the early 1920's and most probably there have been 100's of various forgeries made since, some bad and some very good.

I totally agree with you on your opinion regarding the two items offered by Ruby Stamps.

I had a mint mnh. pair which I handed to David Feldmann at a show in Singapore, he showed them to his Swiss expert who was sitting next to him and just quickly glanced at them and said they were OK and didn't need a certificate as they have the tell tale marks of being genuine. I asked him how he could immediately tell without even using a magnifying glass and he just replied " EXPERIENCE ". I think it is the shape of the lower ornaments esepcially the end angles, the clarity of the overprints, the colour of the ink and EXPERIENCE.

D1,

I knew the vendor very well and his loss was a great loss for NSW Philately & especially for the Newcastle area and for Youth Philately in NSW as he was one of the best workers for Youth Philately we have ever had. I heard a good story about him yesterday. I presume you knew he was a TAFE Metalwork teacher but occasionally taught other subjects. When he was called in to teach other subjects the students said that he had greater knowledge of the other subjects than their regular teachers.

I don't know who will benefit from the proceeds of the sales but John always gave his free time & help for one charity in particular " Camp Quality ".

Peetah,

there is only a 12 1/2 which was the original perf issueds in 1957 and in 1960 changed to 13 x 12 1/2.

David B.

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-10-07 at 14:37:04 PST

Anyone anyone at all>

I looked today at some "FREE FRANKS"
that is Covers from the 1840's or so
Free Frank
I bought a couple But
I saw a "HENRY CLAY" FF cover
while he was State Rep (i think)
Nice piece but 175 is that about right.

ALSO saw Nomad55 a Nice Free franked
Garfield Mourning Cover
CC Executive Mansion

Free By Postmaster General $200
too high?? I know you have much Mc experience.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-10-07 at 14:35:16 PST

Woohoo, we broke 80F for the first time this year.

And I'm working my *&^% off, repairing fences.

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 14:06:11 PST

OPS: "right" = write, etc.
Nice chain of posts. On another board they used to call it a close to half 'chatzy' :-)

"D'evirati cantori allettatrice..."

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 13:53:55 PST

As an aside note, I observe that as early as 1926 in the Serrane Guide (of which I have an original copy) it does already appear a *warning* for forgeries of these airmail overprints.

Paolo

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 13:49:54 PST

I see I neglected to take in consideration Knud-Erik's observation on the meaning of the little green mark on reverse.
I had of course considered the possibility of the acronym ND as for Neudrucke, though, to the best of my knowledge, albeit it's not widespread on this matter as in others,
there are no reprints, and much less in 1980, that I ever read or heard from anywhere.
I could be in error, but I honestly am lead to think, by my own decisional power, that the overprints are genuine, regardless condition.

Neverthess, I must admit, however, is is uncunny that on such stamps, that are not rare (I could show you some really rare, in the proper sense of the term, overprint) but are really sought after by many, and that have been around for so long, it doesn't appear any recognisable expert mark.

Paolo

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 13:37:42 PST

Ach, not pond as in "stagnate", even though a discussion with me can last forever, if I am in the mood ;-)
No, I really meant to right
"ponder on the discussion".

Posted by peetah ( 467

) on Mar-10-07 at 13:04:35 PST

vonbag pond?

Posted by peetah ( 467

) on Mar-10-07 at 13:02:40 PST

Anyone have a more recent S. Gibbons than my 1995? I would like perf information for Malaya (Selangor) SG# 127 $5 Weaving. My 1995 SG shows perfs 13 x12 1/2 and perf 12 1/2. The same stamp, Scott(2007) # 112, lists a 13 1/2 a 13x12 1/2 and a 12 1/2 x13. Where did my 13 1/2 x13 come from?

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 12:46:32 PST

P.S.
also Mitchell shows a pair of C1 and C2 on this Swiss web-page of him, here.
Maybe he could also pond in the discussion.

Paolo

Posted by de66 ( 1048

) on Mar-10-07 at 12:34:09 PST

D2 PS. Clasic stamps in NZ has a pair of 10/- rails for NZD2700 in stock.

Posted by de66 ( 1048

) on Mar-10-07 at 12:32:33 PST

D2
Both NZ rail collections of Johns, Peter stiff neck brought then complained to me some #@@##$ ran him up and he felt he had paid to much lot 393 went for 650 [i had 180 on it] 394 went for 1150 [i had 400 on it] i fell he paid far to much status brought the single 10/- for 600 so i guess we will see it in their next auction.

D1

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 12:29:49 PST

Geesh, sorry David,
Forgot to add the link.
Here is the new image / comparison.

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 12:28:19 PST

David B.,
This time it's my turn to welcome you back.
Would please be so kind as to look at this picture,
on which above are the two Swiss airmail stamps previously discussed and at bottom the one offered at the moment by Rubystamps (no gum), seen immediately as GOOD?

I of course compared it against the reference material linked by Paul, but I do not see any, I say any, discrepancies from the original type, besides the two PAPER adhesion on recto of the left stamp (probably remanents of glue and paper of another stamp which was superimposed to it and that I do not dare to 'treat' appropriately, to release the adhesions).
They were both offered as UHM, but the one on the left, besides the adhesions on recto, bears at least two (albeit weak) corner creases.
This one has original gum, like his companions on normal granite paper that are un-overprinted and I, of course, have for comparison.
The other one on the right might be a re-gum.
But I bought the lot for the equivalent of about 650 US dollars, there was also other material in it.

BTW, It is a new scan of the 30c., than those I previously linked. Evidently, my scanner is not well calibrated so I adjusted the colours manually to that of the original stamps.

Thank you in advance,
Paolo

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-10-07 at 12:02:39 PST

thines… The stamp in question is perf 10X11, not perf 11, which makes it the very common Scott 542. The seller seems to have looked in the Scott catalog and was drawn irresistibly to the listing for Scott 544, which is perf 11, and valued at $3,200 used. Or he aimed one notch lower, at the 545, valued at $210 used. Either way he’s wrong.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by dbenson ( 7964

)

on Mar-10-07 at 11:34:34 PST

D2 to D1, 1500 seems steep but they are very popular with many collectors in attendance who aspired to acquire them. There was many rare items amongst John's material. I presume Status bought the remainder album as that woulld be perfect for breaking up,

David B.

Posted by de66 ( 1048

) on Mar-10-07 at 11:21:54 PST

D1 to D2

It was good to see you yesterday, i ended up with 7 lots including the pair of 10/- NZ rails which costs me 1500 Status was the underbidder still nice pair. Then had an unplesent 2 hour wait in the plane at Sydney due to some red light.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-10-07 at 11:00:38 PST

Terry

You mean, apart from it being perf 10 rather than perf 11?

Posted by thines ( 1456

) on Mar-10-07 at 10:47:21 PST

NOIP

Any comments about: 300089785086?

Terry Hines

Posted by keleofa ( 3396

)

on Mar-10-07 at 10:28:35 PST

Roger,

Aloha & C Y E,

Maholo,

Matt in Arizona

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 09:54:54 PST

That was meant to be - Knud - , of course!
I am typing a little faster than usual as I have to go out to do shopping.

BBL, Paolo

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 09:50:37 PST

Knd-Erik,
Thanks. I linked that site "on Mar-08-07 at 15:13:58 PST":-).
Before passing to postal objects/postal history,
I want to get a better grip of the loose stamps,
then of cancellations, types, periods of usage etc.
Like earlier reminded, it is some kind of a mine field for fake cancels.
But I have the habit to it, from other areas ;-)
I tend first to accumulate a strong amount of cheap stamps on or off cover pieces. Then once I have a grip and some bases for comparison, I dare to venture on the good ones used, then eventually on cover. But I do not feel this urge for Swiss material at the moment.

Paolo

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-10-07 at 09:01:32 PST

Good day all.

From a warm west Texas.

Posted by knuden ( 2219

)

on Mar-10-07 at 08:39:44 PST

Paolo . Try this link.
What about this for the cancel on back of your stamp - "NeuDruck(19)80"?
If you are going to spice your collection with covers and cards, I might have some for you. :O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by saimidy ( 21

) on Mar-10-07 at 08:17:23 PST

Hello!
Collecting Finland I have found a postcard sent to Hamburg Zollverein in 1884. There is also an arrival cancellation "Hamburg Zollverein".
I should greatly appreciate information about how the postal system was organised within this Zollverien - if not a complete essay, suggested literature would be great.
There is a lot about Hamburg and Zollverin on the net, but so far I found nothing about the post.
Thank you!
http://666kb.com/i/amib88lvi2y1a6mi0.jpg

Posted by iamthefrog ( 278

)

on Mar-10-07 at 07:52:25 PST

Hi to you all just dropped in to let you know once I started I can't stop.Have worked up to 1978 results are satisfactory at least to me and have a much better idea of what all is here.I don't list items on ebay but am culling out ALOT of material anyone interested in this stuff let me know I'll mail it out(mostly used blocks) FREE lousfrog @ aol.com

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 07:47:32 PST

"ristration" = registration (or simply 'register')

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 07:45:50 PST

Knud-Erik,
For some reason I can't open that page.

RE:"NDBO." here it is (I enhanced contrast and diminished luminosity -- I foresee that at the end of the day these stamps will be incinerated by the scanner).
It's on reverse of the first 30c. (C2) I showed.

Here follow some other "goodies" in the collection, showed as a random sample:

goodies 1
all are on grilled paper, blcks. of four, NHM (like the rest).
Notice, where present, on the 70 (C.), 80 and 1 Fr., the ristration punch holes for the printing on the right margins: they were slightly colored by the printing plate.

goodies 2
I only showed the beginning of the set.
Notice the good to perfect centering.

Paolo

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3460

)

on Mar-10-07 at 07:43:28 PST

bjorn Thanks, I am honored to be framed! Jeff

Posted by bjornmu ( 897

) on Mar-10-07 at 07:09:41 PST

Hysteria, you may be interested to know that I have picked this recent purchase from you for possible inclusion into my upcoming one-frame exhibit. This will be on the page of "intentional errors" as I presume the invert was done on purpose.

I did have to remove 5 of the 21 pages I first came up with, but so far it looks like this will survive. :-) The other item on that page wil be a back-dated German first day cancel.

Posted by knuden ( 2219

)

on Mar-10-07 at 06:41:36 PST

Paolo _ Have you seen this pages on Swiss philately?? :O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-10-07 at 06:39:20 PST

NDBO----Newly Discovered Bad Overprint

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3460

)

on Mar-10-07 at 06:26:47 PST

briguy according to text on one of Mallack's pages

All lots are ACCURATELY described or your money back.

Are you saying he refused to refund your purchase when brought to his attention?

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 06:22:26 PST

What else, rather than
"Non-Directional Beacon Observation" or
"Norddeutsches Barockorchester"
could it be? ;-)

Paolo

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 06:18:09 PST

P.S. I wanted to say the opposite regarding the stamp of Dragonstamps, saying that his is more similar to that of Roger's. But I suddenly realized it resents bull to try and make a ink coverage comparison of the overprint with stamps of very different colors, like in this case, the 30 and the 50c. respectively.
Anyhow, due to the high printed quantities, close to half million for the 50 (C.) dark green on light green, it wouldn't surprise me if there were two different printings or, in case not, at least a certain progressive wear of the printing elements composing the sterotype composition of the plate of overprints, for which reason any extra-accurate manner of comparison could be not so useful, if not ridicule.
BTW, speaking of bull, on reverse of one of the 30c. (C2) stamps I showed much earlier, there is a little marking in green, at bottom right corner; it reads:
"NDBO."
No more, no less. Boh! (maybe it's something personal against me, do I have to get angry? ;-))

Paolo

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-10-07 at 06:07:52 PST

PLANET----Yes do post a link to the pictures,I also have a few .

ROGER ----Thanks for added info on the useage dates .

Marius------LOL--- I don't get my kicks that way .

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 05:58:42 PST

Sorry, that was meant to be C1.

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-10-07 at 05:57:41 PST

Hi back to you, Hutch!

Thanks also to Dragonstamps for showing his Swiss arimail stamp.
Just called to dealer: no probs on giving back collection.
I may probably trade it for another one.
I am a little more interested in the early period; the standing Helvetia with its retouches and different perfs and paper types and the postage dues various 'cifre' Issues with their numerous types and printings stroke my fancy... and interest.
Unfortunately, here in Holland, I cannott find anymore those nice big lots of Italy and/or It. States like it used to be in the past.
Not to speak of better material on cover: when you find it, or it is overpriced or it is in 'non collectible' quality (though, ergonomic for reference, when bought at or less than 5% of CV).

Back to Swiss ovpt. first two airmails,
from the various images proposed I noticed few, if not none, differences in the general configuration and minutiae of the overprint.
Besides the color, which is known to be tricky when judged by a monitor, as it is light source instead of a reflecting surface, and also due to matters of calibration etc., I notice a slightly different degree of 'coverage' of the ink of the overprint over the printed elements of the postage stamps.
The ink on that used one kindly exhibited by Roger , for instance, shows more matt and dense than mine, which is more similar, for its apparent density, to that of Dragonstamps.

I took a better picture, I think, of one of the two C2s:
here;

Whilst hereis an attempt of dimensional comparison with that of Roger's, made quickly without thinking much and drawing lines ;-)

Paolo

Posted by planet_treasures ( 39

) on Mar-10-07 at 05:38:52 PST

Hello.

I have come across a bunch of stamps. Many of them are used, some are foreign. Anybody interested in the pics?

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1260

)

on Mar-10-07 at 03:50:20 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Went over to Colopex with a friend yesterday. Got a few commercial Stained Glass Window Covers, filled a few holes in my US Used and some other oddments.
They were using the International Polar Year International rate stamps on the show covers, but the ink the Post Office brought over was VERY slow to dry. I did not pick up any show covers, but was delighted to see in the flesh what stamps they’d picked.

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s a Greek Ship.

& a Iran.

& a Iran Bridge.

& a another Iran Bridge.

Jim L.

Posted by sayasan ( 634

)

on Mar-10-07 at 02:57:34 PST

NOIP - Has anyone invested their hard-earned spondulux in any of the 2007 5 part Gibbons Stamps of the World ("simplified") catalogues? If anyone has Vol 1, countries A-C, could they check for me Burma 309a (20p value)? Is it listed at Ł100 mint or Ł5? Or something else? If anyone has Vol 3, countries I-M, could they check Myanmar 356-361 (musical instruments definitives)? Are they priced or unpriced?

(I know what the situation is in the current Gibbons online listing, but I'd like to compare with their most recent prices published on paper. There has been some weird speculation in these issues recently ...)

Thanks in anticipation ... Richard W.

Posted by stampmad ( 1083

)

on Mar-10-07 at 01:01:42 PST

Paolo..at 20:32:11 you wrote

For some strange reason I still didn't go to sleep
(maybe it's because of my arse feeling - unconsciously - a little sore):
Many Thanks Paul and Roger!!!

I've always had my concerns about that pair :-)

Marius..

BTW Is anyone going to nominate themselves for EUSC president?

Posted by knuden ( 2219

)

on Mar-10-07 at 00:30:49 PST

22028 - Steve Malack. :O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by 22028 ( 1573

)

on Mar-09-07 at 23:05:21 PST

Who is Steve Malack?

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Mar-09-07 at 22:54:28 PST

jaywild
I bought one lot from Steve Malack on EBay.
It was described as CSA #13 mint, "beautiful".

When I received it the stamp had been creased in half visciously, and then ironed out. :o(

I will never buy another lot from him as long as I live.

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Mar-09-07 at 21:47:59 PST

I'll have to answer any follow-ups tomorrow.

Roger

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-09-07 at 21:46:32 PST

I have always considered my c1 overprint "suspect". I don't think it's strong (dark) enough.

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Mar-09-07 at 21:45:29 PST

Paul -

50 centimes authorized for use by the public only on air mail items between April 28 through October 31 1919. Documented use of 23,579 items. Mint sales were continued but served no purpose until January 24, 1921 when all sales to the public were halted. Up to 475,000 stamps were sold. The PO failed to account for those sold to the public and those used for internal accounting. There are estimated to be 1.8 million copies of used stamps circulating, keep in mind the Swiss catalogue value is for dates during the period of flown covers. It is known that 2 million stamps were overprinted but only 23,500 sold for the flights, maybe the accounting was intentionally vague to stop heads from rolling within the post office department!

The 30 centimes catalogue value is for cancels between 14 November 1920 and January 21, 1921. Known flight dates are 14, 15, 16, 19, 22, 23 -30 November, then 23 and 28 December. Any other dates were not flown, and I believe this stamp was not used for accounting as the denomination was not convenient to pay multiples of francs for the internal accounting.

Both values were invalidated on 1 March 1923, which was the date of the full set of Swiss airmails. You realize that the invalid date was theoretical as neither stamp had been valid for postal use for a few years.

I hope this helps a little.

BTW - All used covers had to have mixed franking of a single air mail and then the regular postage paying the prevailing rate in effect for the type of cover sent.

As for on mail without airmail cancel, this is a special study during the flown period, but the stamps were not valid outside of the use periods for anything, so should be uncanceled if found on a cover, or marked with a crayon signifying invalid.

Roger

PS: These stamps are not worth the effort invested in them as they have created problems for collector since they were first issued. Many of the scheduled flights didn’t fly due to bad weather and the covers went by train, only to be taken by courier from the train stations to the airfield to receive the airmail receiver! This was a propaganda effort and with a job program for the few Swiss pilots who were trained during WWI and had no job after the war. No P-40’s in 1919!

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-09-07 at 21:38:05 PST

oas-cny… In my opinion Steve Malack uses eBay for a dumping ground. The stuff he offers here is gobbidge.

peterc8888… Double transfers come in all types. Essentially it’s the result of the image shifting when it’s being rocked into the printing plate, so that one or more elements get doubled to some degree or other.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-09-07 at 21:15:21 PST

Swiss

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-09-07 at 21:14:19 PST

Here's my "C1". SwissC1

It looks 14mm for the prop, and 18mm for the wingspan.

Posted by breffington ( 357

) on Mar-09-07 at 21:05:48 PST

Re UN story: I should have typed: I wanted to get the covers cancelled. Not backstamped. Frank

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-09-07 at 20:59:55 PST

Paolo - Hello and ROTFLMAO after those last few posts . Nice to see you posting again

Hutch

Posted by breffington ( 357

) on Mar-09-07 at 20:57:05 PST

Thines:Re UN post office operated by the US postal service. As you mentioned that is correct. Mailing stamp catalogs from the UN is a money saver. Stampazine, up until last year, with offices on West 57th Street would also mail from the UN. They could buy UN discount postage for 35 percent of face and that kind of a savings on their mailings was and is substantial. Here's a UN/USPS story:I had attended a function at the UN back a couple of years ago and went downstairs to the USPS unit that services the UN mailing operation. I wanted to get a dozen or so covers backstamped and dreturned to me on a hand back basis rather than have them go through the mails and maybe get lost, damaged or a second cancel. The supervisor flat our refused and said she had never heard of such a thing! I needed the covers back that day so I could have some diplomats sign them for me. They were leaving the US the next day and there was no way I would get the covers back in time if she put them in the mail stream. I finally told her I was interviewing the NYC Postmaster, Vinnie Molloy, in two weeks and would she like me to ask her why she did not follow appropriate procedure. She called an offsite supervisor who must have told her to do it. She cancelled the covers handed them back to me and said while pointing to the door,"Get out of my sight." I came close to punching the witch. Thank God most post office people are reasonable.Frank

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 20:53:01 PST

P.S.: congrats on your used set!!!

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 20:45:41 PST

Paul The collection is complete.
Along with the 10 F., came alsoi the rest of the set:
here
in the same condition, but with better perfs...

Greetings, Paolo

Posted by breffington ( 357

) on Mar-09-07 at 20:38:46 PST

Malolo:Re: Why Swiss C1 expertising certificates? I got them because I was concerned that they might be forged cancellataions although they were in the time frame for proper airmail use. I'm working from memory here but Mr Bloch of Mercury Stamp Co. in NYC expertised them for me and he sent them on to Switzerland because he said his opinion was not honored everywhere. I don't remember the Swiss expertiser but do remember his reputation was solid. Next time I am in Manhattan, where I keep my better items, I'll check. Frank

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 20:32:11 PST

For some strange reason I still didn't go to sleep
(maybe it's because of my arse feeling - unconsciously - a little sore):
Many Thanks Paul and Roger!!!
I checked these three ones closely:
the printing is typography, although there is no foulage (indentation on reverse).
Other things that do not match are the color, which is indeed a little darker than yours on cover, Roger, and the dimensions of the WING, which from tip to tip of "mine" measures 18.1 mm... it's 0.1mm longer than your dimensions.
Does somebody on the balcony have a good lenition unguent?... I, once, tried tooth paste for hemorrhoids, but I won't do it again

Back the collection goes, alas.

All the best,
Paolo

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-09-07 at 20:10:10 PST

The PAX stamps should be purchased as a complete set ,they are too diffcult to find indivually.My set .

Posted by mini*lindy ( 326

)

on Mar-09-07 at 19:57:34 PST

sunny saturday afternoon..bookmark...

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-09-07 at 19:45:43 PST

ROGER ----What use dates are incorrect on the Swiss airmails bulletin,let me correct that article as a future source of information .

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Mar-09-07 at 19:17:08 PST

seller has 6500 lots listed.....

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Mar-09-07 at 19:16:31 PST

As you can see the fake overprint has a date of 2.1.29. I don't bother emailing the seller as they have already written in previous emails they don't have time to read them all before the auctions end. I guess that's what happens when a se??e? ?as 6500 ??ts ??sted.

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Mar-09-07 at 19:05:50 PST

Paolo -

Here is a large scan of a used 1919 50 cent air on cover. (From a postal historian);>)

I measured the overprint and propeller tip to tip is 14mm, from wing tip to wing tip is 18mm. Notice how clean the impression is and the color is a “bright” red, no carmine shade at all. I can’t get your stamps to match my colors, but that doesn’t matter. Soemwhere I have a description of fakes, but can’t find it right now. Sorry.

The PAX looks good, though I agree there is a short perf.

breffington -
I’m concerned you got a certificate for your Swiss airs. Why? Mailings only required a single air stamp per item, the other mailing charges wer paid for according to normal rates. The last day a 50 centimes was flown was October 31, 1919, therefore, all cancels must be between that date and the first flown day of 30 April, 1919 and the above. Any cancel dates between Oct 31 1919 and 1 March 1923 are favor cancels and didn’t fly, therefore, not the catalogue value! The stamps were issued to identify airmail items and were never used for anything other than airmail, EXCEPT after 1923 they were used for internal post office accounting purposes and these are usually found in blocks and sheets. The date identifies this use.

As mentioned the overprints should have a certificate. (I wish I could find the reference that would be helpful for MNH stamps rather than used.)

Paul - Thanks for the forgery info. The use dates are misleading (not your fault), but the overprint descriptions are informative. I have numerous overprints on used stamps offered by certain sellers in Argentina. The dates are always from the late 1920’s, which is impossible!

Roger

PS: Here is a fake overprint
http://cgi.ebay.com/SWITZERLAND-ZU-F2-Used-VF-Airmail-CV-CHF200-162_W0QQitemZ320090977628QQcategoryZ4749QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Good -
http://cgi.ebay.com/SWITZERLAND-ZU-F1-MNG-VF-Airmail-CV-CHF200-162_W0QQitemZ320090976977QQcategoryZ4749QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-09-07 at 18:48:25 PST

OAS-CNY-----This will give you an idea of the problem of trying to list something by color . COLOR....paul

Posted by saipanislandboy ( 900

)

on Mar-09-07 at 18:46:54 PST

OAS-CNY: This won't help you with your current problem, but it may help avoid similar problems in the future.

If I see an item for sale about which I have any doubts, but on which I wish to bid anyway, I contact the seller, advise of my intention have the item expertised, and ask if the seller will provide a refund if the certificate comes back bad. If the seller agrees, I bid; if not, then I don't (or I take my chances). I save the exchange of correspondence, in case of later disputes.

I've had to return two fairly expensive items within the past six months, and had no problem getting a refund on either. The only cost to me was postage to return the item and the PayPal charge for the (late) refund.

Michael

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-09-07 at 18:38:54 PST

PAOLO----Here is the info on the Swiss airmail overprint . FIRST PAGE and Second PAGE......paul

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-09-07 at 18:15:26 PST

OAS-CNY-----read Matlack guarentee ,maybe his scanner is off or your screen is off .Wmlang has had his problems on this chat room before .

Posted by oas-cny ( 1207

) on Mar-09-07 at 18:03:30 PST

I don't know how to contact eBay about these things -- anyone who knows how take a look at this 190042912468 -- this is not the "lake" color 657 -- wmlang has a real lake color 657 -- I e-mail matlack bu the didn't answer

Posted by thines ( 1456

) on Mar-09-07 at 17:40:02 PST

NOIP<

Just looked at the priority mail envelope that brought the catalog for Nutmeg's March 20 auction. I've received these before and never really noticed that they bear two very, very interesting modern postal history features. First, Theyare franked with UN postage. But they have a USPS zero denomination PVI to give a bar code version of the ZIP code of the addressee. This must mean that there is a USPS PVI machine at UN headquarters as the stamps are cancelled with a UN NY roller cancel.

It's been known for years that the USPS runs the UNPA post office, but this is nice confirmation.

Also my cover bears a faint circular handstamp reading OE / 14. This must be the handstamp used to verify that the cover wasn't mailed by some unibomber nut case. Shame on me, but I've seen similar on previous Nutmeg mailings but not saved them. I suspect that these Nutmeg covers will be the onlyones on which you'll find this combination of mixed uses and anti-bomber markings.

Although I'm well known for dislike of philatelic covers, even I think that these markings (PVI & handstamp) are not philatelic. So, I'd suggest that we all save future Nutmeg covers.

Terence Hines

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-09-07 at 17:08:42 PST

Hmmmm

I wonder what died.
Twenty-four hungry birdies!!

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 16:08:56 PST

"Congratultaions" = Congratulations

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 16:07:40 PST

Frank,
Thank you so much for your opinion as well!
I am so stupid to have accepted these without reference material (it will be due to the Swiss fever! ;-))!)
Congratultaions on your strip of four C1s!!!

Jim (IO)!
I totally agree, in sequence. It is the style of a FEW (go"wd d****, this time I wrote "few") sellers to start with "Very, very rare...".
There was already much discussion on this board at this regard.
I am "friend" with a she-seller who initiated this kind of 'border line' policy of description.
Their auctions were succesful, anyway.
This is data based on facts.
I discussed with them, directly, on another board, but they like to be addressed at the IIIrd person (although I can gather my small vicotory, conjugating correctly the pluralis majestatis... "in extremis" I can also do it in proper Latin LOL).

Good continuation to All,
and thanks again to Paul (stamps12345) for his kind proposal of help!

Paolo

Posted by breffington ( 357

) on Mar-09-07 at 15:51:41 PST

Vonbag: I just checked a Swiss dealer's price list(November 2006) and he wanted 1,599 CHF(swiss francs) for the pair used and 395 CHF mint. Normalpreis 519.-CHF,Frank

Posted by breffington ( 357

) on Mar-09-07 at 15:43:02 PST

Vonbag, Re:Swiss C1&2. I don't like the look of the overprints. As you may know counterfiets exist of this set with forged cancellations. I have a strip of four C1s properly used in the correct time period on piece and with expert opinions from US and Swiss experts. I don't have my C1s here but I don't like the look of these especially if the seller is giving you a great price. I would take them back.Frank

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-09-07 at 15:41:10 PST

Paolo

Too true.
There are currently 12,227 stamps listed on eBay as being "rare".
I'd be surprised if 227 of them are really "rare".

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 15:24:01 PST

Thank you very much too, in advance,
Paul!

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 15:21:54 PST

Knud-Erik,
Thank you for your opinion which is much appreciated as usual!!!
The Swiss 10 Fr. PAX postage stamp is NOT rare. It is not so in any normal condition, also not on -- mostly philatelic conceived -- covor (therefore the "o").
It may be rare in *exceptional* condition... I fell for a stupid 'fata morgana', for stamps printed in the 100 thousands, whereas I normally base my deals with stamps with LOWER printings (from 1 -- known -- to 10000), and that I know much better.
But this is not a drama. I am good friend with the local dealers, and the problem will be solved tomorrow.

I hope this can serve as a lesson for some stamp collectors (and for myself):
High Catalogue value doesn't mean RARE, and do not ever fall for pseudo-pearls disseminated in collections.

All the best,
Paolo

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-09-07 at 15:19:26 PST

PAOLO----Will scan for you the info on the Swiss airmails in a few hours.To help you determine if real .

Posted by peterc8888 ( 304

) on Mar-09-07 at 15:17:10 PST

Jim(jaywild)

So, the 5L1L you linked is Scott# 9 with double transfer? I always want to see how double transer looks like.

I wonder whether the predator6774 id was hacked or not.

PC

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-09-07 at 15:04:43 PST

Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!

Spring break.
A little early this year.
However, since the time change is also earlier, it provides a great excuse to stay in bed in the mornings.

Posted by librarian-c ( 951

)

on Mar-09-07 at 14:44:05 PST

I just realized that the watermark on the horizontal stamps from this issue are sideways, so does that mean this is a regurlar looking watermark for the vertical issues?

I don't know why I find watermarks such a challenge........

Posted by knuden ( 2219

)

on Mar-09-07 at 14:38:56 PST

Paolo - Your PAX 10 Frank has a short perf as you note. I woudn't buy this stamp without a certificate. It's one of my favorite stamps but as I don't collect Switzerland stamps (only Switzerland Postal wrapper) I'm not going to own it.:O)
As your 2 Air mail stamps are so expensive, I would prefer a certicate too as there exist many fakes of these. :O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 14:38:11 PST

P.P.S. in one shot, I thought I bought a part of what missing from my Switzerland collection. It obviously doens't go so easy!
LOL

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 14:29:02 PST

P.S. I confess I already made my mind up: the PAX 10 Franks is defective for having a short perf. at top (but opinions are still open) and, as for the the Switzerland C2 on top in my image, it has some corner creases. You can notice it from my image, alrwady, at bottom right and at top left on the forst copy shown. Too bad I didn't notice it immediately!!!
Gonna have a nice talk with a friend of mine who sold it to me, tomorrow afternoon, independently from what will be written here by you, for which I thank you in adavance.

Best, Paolo

Posted by librarian-c ( 951

)

on Mar-09-07 at 14:26:23 PST

I'm looking for some more philatelic help..........this time with a Tasmania watermark.

I have the following 1d rose-red Mount Wellington:

CLICK
HERE

with Crown over A watermark. ( I hope I did this right) The watermark is upside down. The image is not the best as I just improvised to try and make the watermark visible. I can find upright and sideways watermarks listed, but I can not find any listing for the watermark as inverted or upside down. You can see the numeral for this stamp at the top of the scan and the watermark is shown upright. Is anyone familiar with this and/or can I get an opinion on if this is a common error or not??

As always, your comments are appreciated.

John A

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 14:13:22 PST

"shot" = short

I didn't proof read. I hardly ever do it. It mostly works 'cause I ain't got my head on hills of dust.

Thank you in advance for your replies.
Paolo

Posted by kathmoon ( 244

) on Mar-09-07 at 14:12:54 PST

peetah: I just received my copy of EZGrader a week ago. The program itself is pretty easy. I am not very computer literate, but did quite well with it. I found the hardest part was to get the stamp straight on the scanner bed. If it is not straight - it does NOT work. Also, if you use a black mount or a black sales card and the stamp is near the sealed edge - it pick up glare or distortion or "something" and does not work well. It took about a dozen or so tries to get it working well. After that, it was pretty easy. PRINT a copy of the instruction, it helps. The stamps that I tried - I thought sure were at least a Grade 95 - graded to 88 or 89. I am starting to understand the relative scarcity of the higher grades. The program is probably MOST usefull in eliminating stamps that you might consider sending for official grading. If you did not send one or two for grading that you might have sent, the program paid for itself. You can email me at kathmoon@aol.com if you care to discuss further. Nick

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-09-07 at 14:01:29 PST

Hello all!

Hi Tom, I confess to you (and the board) that I feel a little bit at disavantage with the Swiss Area, but I agree with all what you wrote (in this and in other occasions, in general, and not only about stamps and the forbidden planet of COVORS, spelled like this in dis-honor of a few jerk PSEUDO "postal historians" -- think they know who they are). I have THE money to buy stamps... and covers as well (unfortunately?).
If you come over to Holland, we could start a nice stamp business (if my wife doesn't agree, we could move to Italy? ... Philatelic Fantasies).

Getting a little more serious, I have a question (finally???) for the board.
What do you think of these overprints:
Switzerland C1 and C2
The stamps are ** (Mint, with full o.g., never hinged).
Switzerland Airmal 1 and 2.
I can still bring it back, so please shoot your opinion tranquilly and with no restriction.

Another question:
Switz. PAX 1945 10 franks:
here
Don't you also think it has a shot perforation right here?
Like the others, it is NHM (never hinged mint).
I can also stiill bring back this one (and the rest of the lot, 1930-1954 ** complete with blocks of four ** and other special effects).

All the best Tom and some others,
Paolo

PS: with special thanks to tiny.pic.com for accepting my images for upload... my werb-space is over-stuffed.

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-09-07 at 13:53:26 PST

It just occurred to me, reading the last posts, why couldn't extensions or guarantees be calculated from the date of the certificate? Whether it takes them 3 weeks or 3 months wouldn't matter, as the cert date would establish when the warranty expires, a reasonable time after. There would still need to be a provision for prompt application up front of course, but I wonder how many cases like oas-cnv describes turn out badly because overworked expertisers can't keep up with too-short warranty periods. (Reminds one of DNA results needed for trial evidence!)

Perhaps all expertisers could time stamp certs with both date submitted and date issued, no reflection on their promptness, just forensic evidence for warranty claims. It's a thought.

Bob in WA

Posted by 220man ( 147

) on Mar-09-07 at 13:31:39 PST

1covers: Thanks for the paper, I managed to learn something new today! Phil

Posted by oas-cny ( 1207

) on Mar-09-07 at 13:24:08 PST

Just got back a PSE report on a coil pair I bought from a ASD seller ---- a fake. It tooks 10 weeks to get the certificate --- now I see I can't file a dispute report or get Paypal to cover my loss -- the dealer is not responding.
He is still selling on eBay -- can I go to the ASD to resovle this? Please e-mail me scheidel@scheidelco.com with your suggestions -- I'm out $500

Posted by abt1950 ( 224

)

on Mar-09-07 at 12:34:17 PST

How eBay helps the Stamp Watch Committee do its job:

Dear eBay Member,

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to suspicious coin listings.

Because eBay does not employ or train its Trust & Safety Customer
Support Representatives to be experts in the area of coins and currency,
we rely on expert opinions from knowledgeable people as well as reliable
third party organizations, such as the American Numismatic Association
(ANA).

Your report will be reviewed by a group of members that comprise a
community watch group for coin auctions. They then confer amongst
themselves and either agree or disagree that the listings are
problematic. They then forward that information to the ANA for review.
The ANA can then agree or disagree after careful consideration. If they
agree, they then contact the seller directly. Sellers are then afforded
24 hours in which to revise or cancel the auctions. If they fail to do
so, eBay must cancel the auction.

Posted by 1covers ( 1294

)

on Mar-09-07 at 12:07:38 PST

220man - see page 5 of PDF file here for additional background info.

Posted by 1covers ( 1294

)

on Mar-09-07 at 12:03:43 PST

220man - see page here. These were emergency paper currency used to replace stamps then circulating as money (no silver because of Civil War).

Posted by deh3 ( 1451

)

on Mar-09-07 at 12:00:03 PST

rclwa: Most of those (students' answers) are well known (but still funny) to us (mathematicians). The last one, "find x---here it is" is usually presented as "a blonde's solution to a geometry problem", and has been posted on the bulletin board in our lounge for years.

David H

Posted by 220man ( 147

) on Mar-09-07 at 11:56:19 PST

Is cameo2's stamp a kind of money order? Not familiar with it. Phil

Posted by sayasan ( 634

)

on Mar-09-07 at 11:53:19 PST

Linda - What a discovery! Those scissors are truly historic. As luck would have it, I've just acquired the actual perforation gauge used by the Fuhrer. The signed inscription clinches the identification, I think you'll agree.

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-09-07 at 11:44:50 PST

A literal LOL, repeatedly, from reading THESE students' creative answers to test questions. Hilarious!

Bob in WA

Posted by dragonstamps ( 449

) on Mar-09-07 at 11:34:59 PST

I think the buyer should post feedback first.
I once thought the other way around, but after both buying and selling, the transaction is completed when the buyer posts positive feedback.
You would not believe how many problems can occur if you sell stuff and post feedback right away. I still do it on occasion, but it can lead to big trouble.
It's just so much easier to get disputes resolved if the feedback(s) haven't been left yet.

Posted by 1covers ( 1294

)

on Mar-09-07 at 10:35:15 PST

I spoke with Cameo2 - it is a perf 12.

Posted by cameo2 ( 656

)

on Mar-09-07 at 10:15:06 PST

Still a very nice CU note.. was part of a collection of fractionals I picked up yesterday.

Posted by cameo2 ( 656

)

on Mar-09-07 at 10:13:07 PST

it is the #12 perf, FR 1310 .. HERE

Posted by cameo2 ( 656

)

on Mar-09-07 at 09:57:39 PST

thanks.. I will get a link to the pic shortly..

Posted by 1covers ( 1294

)

on Mar-09-07 at 09:57:30 PST

Cameo - I forgot - the normal, government produced perforations on fractional currency was 12. So, if you compare with another perforated example of a different denomination (lay next to it, or a full size photo), if perfs spaced closer together, it is perf 14.

Should mention that those perf 14 varieties were NOT produced by the government and were applied privately. I consider them to be fakes which should be de-listed.

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Mar-09-07 at 09:52:33 PST

cameo2 Perf 12 has 12 teeth in 2 centimeters. Perf 14 has 14 teeth in 2 centimeters.

Posted by 1covers ( 1294

)

on Mar-09-07 at 09:44:39 PST

Cameo2 - FR #14310 is perforated 12 while FR1310-A is perforated 14. That means that the teeth of the perf 14 are closer together. If you link an image, or email me one (check my "me" page), I'll tell you wish perf you have.

Posted by 1covers ( 1294

)

on Mar-09-07 at 09:41:09 PST

Bill C - You are correct I'm afraid. Ebay has once again outsmarted everyone with their clever system to ensure a "warm and cozy" feeling about buying on ebay. Most buyers do not wish to get negatives - as a result "feedback ransom" by sellers is the norm and few negatives appear (and many that do are later reversed out).

Makes you miss the old days when you could neg somebody that wasn't even a trading partner.

Posted by cameo2 ( 656

)

on Mar-09-07 at 09:37:12 PST

Hello from the coin chat board.. got a quick question. How do I tell the difference between a #12 and #14 Perf?

Asking as it is a variety on the FR1310 50 cent 1st Issue Fractional Currency.

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Mar-09-07 at 09:36:49 PST

steverad-ca Your thoughts are misguided.

A seller is not supposed to post feedback "until the transaction is complete".

Paypal defines the transaction as "complete" when the electronically verifiable proof of delivery" is verified and the buyer posts positive feedback.

EBay still allows a transaction to be disputed if the buyer does not agree that the item received is what was described in the buyer's opinion.

PayPal and Ebay both consider a transaction completed and not in dispute when the buyer posts positive feedback.

Therefore, (to take the reasoninbg to its logical, if extreme, conclusion) a seller should not post feedback until the buyer indicates satisfation by the buyer first posting positive feedback.

Now I put on my asbestos overcoat and wait for other comments.

Posted by grannygee ( 389

) on Mar-09-07 at 09:07:50 PST

peetah
Thanks so much for the info. I have several Switzerland stamps and I want to list them in the coming time. grannygee

Posted by cobbie10 ( 5985

)

on Mar-09-07 at 08:38:07 PST

steverad_ca

I used to agree with you and post feedback as soon as I received payment.

However a few weeks ago I was slapped by 6 negatives from the same person for not lying about the value of his goods on the customs form when I mailed them to him.

From that day forward I will only leave positive feedback to overseas buyers once I get it from them.

Buyers in the USA are no problem and I always leave them a positive upon payment.

Posted by peetah ( 467

) on Mar-09-07 at 08:29:38 PST

grannygeeWhile you are waiting for a more specific reply, maybe you might want to look around here http://www.swiss-stamps.org/

Posted by peetah ( 467

) on Mar-09-07 at 08:25:58 PST

Does anyone have any experience with SoftPro 2010 EZ Grader?

Posted by grannygee ( 389

) on Mar-09-07 at 08:16:04 PST

Is there a site that features all Switzerland stamps like for the United Stamps site?

Posted by thines ( 1456

) on Mar-09-07 at 07:02:52 PST

Bob in WA,

The net beat you to it. There's already a location (I forget the URL) that gives the Google Earth locations of nudes, etc.

Terry

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-09-07 at 06:41:55 PST

Good day all.

Spring break starts today, yippee.

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Mar-09-07 at 06:39:53 PST

Hutch Spring Fever. Everyone went out to smell the daffodils.

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-09-07 at 06:24:04 PST

I just got to ask - Has this board finally died or did everyone find another ? I can't ever remember so few posts.

Hutch

Posted by bjornmu ( 897

) on Mar-09-07 at 05:04:45 PST

Rainer, I think you're wrong. This forum is not hosted by eBay so the logins are independent. Passwords are probably synced once per day.

Posted by 22028 ( 1573

)

on Mar-09-07 at 04:33:25 PST

Jan, Hutch, since you/he can post on the forum where the same password is required it can not be a hacked account.

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-09-07 at 04:29:23 PST

Good morning.

Hi Tom , You decided not to build in Julian ? I really miss the drives from there down route 78 to 86 and back up S2 and cut over on S3 back to 78 again its what helped me keep my sanity while I lived in San Diego. I plan to retire in that area. I hope all goes as you plan and good luck.

Hutch

Posted by jan1504 ( 522

) on Mar-09-07 at 04:24:26 PST

Hi
Can somebody help me I can`t come in on my own ebay page??

regards
Jan

Posted by postalviews ( 4182

) on Mar-09-07 at 04:02:06 PST

Coyote c*ap instead of gangsta rap ....

That sounds better, a bit more westernly romantic.

Posted by postalviews ( 4182

) on Mar-09-07 at 03:57:40 PST

KE Greetings, on Google Earth, Desert Palace #3 is hoped to be built at 33 03'43.64" N 116 26'18.26" W. Good scenery visible there if you spin it and tilt. I have about 4 acres with 1.5 being on the flat to the north and the rest on the hillside to the south. Large foothill to the west is known as Granite Mountain. The unincorporated town is known as Shelter Valley, pop. ~ 350. One convenience store and nothing else. No gas station, no PO, no Big Boxco, no Mickey Doo-Doo's. No effete country clubs with blue-hairs. There's cougar stool on big rocks instead of dog poo on sidewalks. Mouse c*ap instead of gangsta rap ....

Plenty of wind, though, so send me a set of power windmills, please. In reality am planning to build solar and permanently cut the greedy, selfish power company Sempra/SDGE out of the picture. They refuse to pay for public power generation yet want to build a huge trunk line right through the desert park.

Looks like you have a nice big house and nice big yard! Nice and green, too! :-)

Cheers,

Tom

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1260

)

on Mar-09-07 at 03:45:35 PST

Bookmark

Posted by postalviews ( 4182

) on Mar-09-07 at 03:07:12 PST

"I do love Swiss postage stamps!"

Paolo, you do love stamps.

Nothing like going through a big country collection with highly specialized catalogs picking out gems and interesting artifacts, and wish I was doing that right now, but have to finish rehabbing these wonderful 'desert palaces' first. They're coming along slowly but surely. What we don't have here is many people to rent to, and resultingly, the quality of that rental population is low, and that would be the problem.

I envy you your stamping time and access to interesting material. However, I hath neglected mine on both counts and look forward to eventually correcting that state of affairs in a more than ample manner.

I plan to sell no more on eBay, but rather, when re-started, to buy material, organize it, and wholesale it to interested parties or let it sit there otherwise. This is intended to greatly increase gross sales volume, which American lenders seem to key on for self-employment income more so than net profit. Gross profit on eBay has always been an oxymoron due to the site's time-and-motion constraints. As well, wholesaling also eliminates the sales tax issue along with concomitant complex semi-public bookkeeping headaches. And finally, and most importantly, it largely eliminates the very high selling costs endemic to this industry, from the massive, first-born-payable table rents for wafer-sized selling tables at musty, pinhead-populated stamp shows, to the onerosity of the eBay fee archipelago binding sellers into a serfdom of self-employed corporate servitude.

Not to mention I never found any rare stamps while posting lots 32 hours per week on eBay, and that is crucial.

Cheers!

Tom

Posted by knuden ( 2219

)

on Mar-09-07 at 02:53:06 PST

I have just recieved this beauty to my Prague cancel collection. :O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by knuden ( 2219

)

on Mar-09-07 at 00:58:19 PST

Wow!! I have now tried Google Earth and I'm living at 56*27'0370**N 10*02'0732**E Eye alt 542. If it's direct, it's just before I can go out in my garden and wave to you. :O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by duncan_doenitz ( 114

) on Mar-09-07 at 00:11:44 PST

A few scattered thoughts...

First of all, stamps12345, thanks Paul for the kind remarks about writing skills. But don't cut yourself short, you do a pretty good job yourself when it comes to getting a point across:

"...I'm the only stamp collector here, the rest of them are all weird."

Gets right to the point. And when I laughed out loud sitting in front of the monitor, it reinforced my wife's own ideas about what's weird.

About predator6774, he was only NARU'ed for a few hours or less.

My theory is, someone reported his auction of the stamp collection, pointing out that some of the images were the wrong size in comparison to others in the same image, so they had to be fakes. So he was NARU'ed. But then he probably claimed that the images were not scans of pages, but rather a collection of stamp images on a black background but put together from scans of individual stamp images, explaining that they were different sizes because of different scan settings.

What looked like black stock pages were not pages at all. So he was reinstated.

Now eBay is gun shy and they won't whack him a second time, and as a result buyers stand to lose a lot of money.

Some of his auctions indicated that they were protected through PayPal for up to $2000. Now they indicate $200. But when they were at $2000, that didn't make any sense because in order to qualify for that level of protection, PayPal requires a feedback of 50 or more and a 98% feedback rating.

Why show a blurb for PayPal clearly stating that the auction qualified for $2000 in protection on the auction page when the seller missed on both counts, too low of feedback percentage and less than the required number of 50??

Which gets to the recent discussion of sellers holding back feedback. Well I like the sellers who use feedback as a way of letting me, the buyer, know that my check cleared. But if they decide to wait with the feedback until they know for sure I'm satisfied with the item(s), that seems logical too.

No big deal but it is nice, then, when a thoughtful seller sends an e-mail saying that he got the check and the item has been mailed.

Well that's all for now, gotta go sort through my Hitler stamps, to pick out the ones that were Damaged by Fire when his body was burned.

-Dunc

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-08-07 at 23:15:17 PST

steverad -- You are correct. In principle, the seller's feedback for the buyer should be about prompt payment and articulate communication. As soon as the check clears or PayPal is confirmed and a clear address is at hand, the buyer has done his part. Unfortunately, a few not so scrupulous sellers whose goods or services aren't as advertised use the feedback as a hammer, to ward off deserved negs by being able to threaten retaliation. But as I see it, even those are few compared to the good sellers who nevertheless are forced to use the same tactic as a defense against a few Buyers from Hell who give unwarranted negs to sellers for unrealistic complaints. I've made it to the point where I give feedback to my sellers and pay little attention to when or if they reciprocate. But when you are trying to build it up, it is frustrating. Some get all upset with sellers who practice this, but many are decent guys with nice lots at good prices, and you may be cutting off your nose to spite your face if you block them. Much easier to just ignore it and bid on what looks worth bidding on. If a seller does have just a few negs, check out the feedback of those who left them, and often you will find a real lunatic, and the neg may actually be a badge of honor. (If this jerk doesn't like him, he may be OK!) Just my opinions.

Bob in WA

Posted by 22028 ( 1573

)

on Mar-08-07 at 23:03:14 PST

steverad-ca, I agree with you, however, there is more and more distrust on ebay and may sellers try to keep their feedback number clean, fearing negative feedback and in case they have received negative they just leave retaliatory negative. Also, many sellers only leave feedback once "in their terms", the transaction is finalized by receive feedback form the buyer.

Posted by steverad-ca ( 98

) on Mar-08-07 at 22:41:48 PST

I came in here to post a beef. Contacting ebay is not easy, so I hope this finds it's way or someone can give some guidance.

My frustration is that too many sellers are leveraging feedback - not posting theirs before the buyer. This is backwards and strategically ruining the system.

Wouldn't everyone agree that since the seller receives the money first, they should be forced to post feedback first?

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-08-07 at 22:33:06 PST

Brain -- Jeez, I hope you DON'T run across a third of a Thunderbolt! That would be hard to stomach!

Re satellite imagery--I suppose in a few years they'll be selling coordinates for nudist colonies! I've already heard of something akin to aerial ''tagging'' where graffiti artists are constructing graphics designed to be visible on Google Earth. I'm sure we'll be seeing more of that soon.

The First Bureaus still offer a rich field for mining. Besides the three types, and some shades hard to find in nice shape, there were plate varieties, imperf between errors, and the famous counterfeit, which would be a really fantastic find. Lots of information in Brookman Vol III. PS The first day was Oct 5, 1894!

Bob in WA

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-08-07 at 20:23:28 PST

Hot news flash: Fellinis' Satyricon is about to start on the Flix channel. One of the wierdest movies ever and a must see for wierdos. One of my favorites!

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-08-07 at 19:33:49 PST

Jim

100% :)

Roly

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)

on Mar-08-07 at 19:27:32 PST

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Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Mar-08-07 at 18:49:52 PST

It'll pique my interest when satellite imagery reaches the level where I can covertly investigate any passing cleavage.

A few more years yet I think.
Perhaps, only months. :o)

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Mar-08-07 at 18:17:26 PST

Ah ha ha ha! "missent to Hitler", don't be suprised now if that "instructional handstamp" appears in a listing. Every post office on the colony of Gibraltar had their own afterall....

Bob in WA Sadly, almost all of the stamps are 2c reds. A few one centers here and there (two used together as a pair), and I think the first sack had a single 4c copy. Every one of them is still on paper, either cut off the cover in a diagonal, or torn away in a like manner. A few have early machine cancels, none particularly rare. So far none of them have retained any selvage bits with interesting info or plate numbers. So no eagle and thunderbolt to report yet (Maybe in the next sack his family finds). All and all its the sort of stuff one would find floating in a five cent bargin box, but i'm immensely enjoying the thrill that i'm the first ever who gets to pick through them.

Philatelly is as expensive as you want it to be. ;o)

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 18:05:42 PST

Roly?

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 17:53:58 PST

Hutch… Yes, the gist of that long post was “Please delete me”, so I hit the

button and sayonara…

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-08-07 at 17:12:12 PST

Did anyone understand that long post?

Hutch

Posted by schuylercrap ( 7 )

on Mar-08-07 at 17:04:08 PST

Picked a bad time to emerge from the shell. Someone left a dump.

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 17:02:33 PST

Iomoon… Yep, Google Earth is quite amazing. In fact, here is an image of a house in Germany. The pink arrows show people, whose shadows are cast out in front of them, and the red arrow shows a white sheepdog, laying on the ground.

The house belongs to a cousin of one of my neighbors here in California. We looked it up on Google Earth because it’s where she grew up in the 1940s. It’s right outside Dresden, and yes, she was there during the February 1945 firebombing of the city. At the time she was six years old, and the memory is quite indelibly impressed.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by schuylercrap ( 7 )

on Mar-08-07 at 16:59:21 PST

I heard Ioloonie was in the house!

Posted by avenger.here! ( 0 )

on Mar-08-07 at 16:53:17 PST

HEY Y'ALL!!!.... WHAD UP LOSERS???!!!! HEHEHEHEHEE!

WHEN I GROW-UP, I WANNA B A PIRATE!!!!

LEFT ON EBAY CAFE CHAT ROOM:

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HERE'S 2 U EBAY CAFE!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOOO LMAO!!!

Home > Help Topics > Rules and Policies > Rules for Sellers > Shill Bidding
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Reported Seller: jackiek2
Reported Buyers: sweet*cherry*pop
cafe-dog
baroquecourt
kallii75
jscapo

Item number(s): 270094169245
270094168545
270091703594

Customer concern: GAME'S UP EBAY... MAY-DAY! MAY-DAY FOR EBAY!!!!!!
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LMAO!!!!
FTC-SHUT EBAY DOWN ASAP!!!!!!
FTC-SHUT EBAY DOWN ASAP!!!!!!
FTC-SHUT EBAY DOWN ASAP!!!!!!
FTC, I EXPECT YOU TO ACT NOW!!!!!
POSITIVE PROOF OF EBAY SHILL-BIDDING PYRAMIDS/RINGS! FTC THIS ONE REPORT SHOULD BE ALL YOU NEED TO SHUT
EBAY DOWN TODAY!!!
FTC FILE #5741097
ST FILE #FFO988-05
PLEASE FORWARD TO APPROPRIATE DEPT.... HACKERS TRYING TO STOP MY REPORTS TO YOU! BE SURE TO CHECK ALL, ALL IP'S TO ALL, ALL ID'S LISTED!!! CROSS REFERENCING
IP'S IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE! YOU MUST INVESTIGATE THE BIDDING/SELLING OF EACH & EVERY ID IN THE AUCTION NUMBERS I LIST!

ADD item number:
FTC, ALIASES FOR VERY ROTTEN EBAY-BACKED SHILL-BID SELLER jackiek2 BELOW:

User ID Member for Location About Me Stores
Seller's Items

Exact Match:
jackiek2( 505) 2 years 10 months FL, United
States

Close Matches:
jackie.2( 30) 1 year Germany
jackie32( 250) 8 years 1 month PA, United
States
jackie72( 376) 7 years 11 months CA, United
States
jackiea2( 53) 7 years 11 months OH, United
States
jackieb2( 64) 8 years 1 month CA, United States

jackied2( 1201) 8 years BC, Canada
jackieg2( 28) 8 years 2 months CA, United
States
jackiek( 145) 9 years TX, United States

jackiek25( 0 ) 1 year 4 months IL, United
States
jackie12( 141) 8 years 4 months OR, United
States
jackie_k2( 0 ) 1 year Taiwan About Me

jackiek20( 3 ) 2 years 3 months KY, United
States
jackiek42( 1 ) 2 years 8 months PA, United
States
____________________________________________________________________________

User ID Member for Location About Me Stores
Seller's Items

Exact Match:
jackiek( 145) 9 years TX, United States

Close Matches:
jackie( 1918) 9 years 6 months CA, United
States About Me Stamp and Go
jackie3k( 641) 7 years 8 months MD, United
States
jackie5( 93) 9 years 2 months AL, United States
About Me
jackie7( 41) 8 years 6 months MO, United States

jackieb( 219) 9 years 1 month NY, United States

jaciek( 5 ) 6 years 3 months OH, United States

jackcek( 1 ) 2 years 4 months Germany

jackeek( 85) 6 years 9 months AZ, United States

jackick( 0 ) 2 years 10 months China

jackie*( 865) 7 years 1 month LA, United States
About Me
jackieck( 29) 3 years 1 month WA, United States

gr8fulshadow1( 18) 1 year 1 month FL, United
States
jackiefk( 2 ) 3 years 4 months DC, United
States

____________________________________________________________________________

User ID Member for Location About Me Stores
Seller's Items

Exact Match:
jackie( 1918) 9 years 6 months CA, United
States About Me Stamp and Go

Close Matches:
*jackie( 805) 6 years 3 months CA, United
States
2jackie( 5 ) 4 years 9 months IL, United States

5jackie( 154) 9 years PA, United States

cjackie( 151) 6 years 6 months Germany

fackie( 12) 6 years 2 months Germany

gackie( 161) 7 years 7 months PA, United States

j1ackie( 44) 3 years 4 months KY, United States

j8ckie( 403) 5 years MN, United States About
Me
jaakie( 55) 7 years 11 months Austria

jac_kie( 103) 3 years 9 months United Kingdom

backie( 0 ) 8 years 2 months OK, United States

ejackie( 3 ) 7 years CA, United States

j4ckie( 0 ) 1 year 5 months United Kingdom

jacdie( 1 ) 1 year 3 months Germany

_____________________________________________________________

1 exact match and 14 close matches for member: jackie

User ID Member for Location About Me Stores Seller's Items
Exact Match:
jackie( 1918Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) About MeGo to member's eBay Store
9 years 6 months CA, United States About Me Stamp and Go Seller's Items
Close Matches:
*jackie( 805Feedback score is 500 to 999) 6 years 3 months CA, United
States
2jackie( 5 ) 4 years 9 months IL, United States
5jackie( 154Feedback score is 100 to 499) 9 years PA, United States
Seller's Items
cjackie( 151Feedback score is 100 to 499) 6 years 6 months Germany
fackie( 12Feedback score is 10 to 49) 6 years 2 months Germany
gackie( 161Feedback score is 100 to 499) 7 years 7 months PA, United
States
j1ackie( 44Feedback score is 10 to 49) 3 years 4 months KY, United States
j8ckie( 403Feedback score is 100 to 499) About Me 5 years MN, United
States About Me
jaakie( 55Feedback score is 50 to 99) 7 years 11 months Austria
jac_kie( 103Feedback score is 100 to 499) 3 years 9 months United Kingdom
backie( 0 ) 8 years 2 months OK, United States
ejackie( 3 ) 7 years CA, United States
j4ckie( 0 ) 1 year 5 months United Kingdom
jacdie( 1 ) 1 year 3 months Germany

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1 exact match and 14 close matches for member: jackiek

User ID Member for Location About Me Stores Seller's Items
Exact Match:
jackiek( 145Feedback score is 100 to 499) 9 years TX, United States
Close Matches:
jackie( 1918Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) About MeGo to member's eBay Store
9 years 6 months CA, United States About Me Stamp and Go
jackie3k( 641Feedback score is 500 to 999) 7 years 8 months MD, United
States
jackie5( 93Feedback score is 50 to 99) About Me 9 years 2 months AL,
United States About Me
jackie7( 41Feedback score is 10 to 49) 8 years 6 months MO, United States
jackieb( 219Feedback score is 100 to 499) 9 years 1 month NY, United
States
jaciek( 5 ) 6 years 3 months OH, United States
jackcek( 1 ) 2 years 4 months Germany
jackeek( 85Feedback score is 50 to 99) 6 years 9 months AZ, United States
jackick( 0 ) 2 years 10 months China
jackie*( 865Feedback score is 500 to 999) About Me 7 years 1 month LA,
United States About Me
jackieck( 29Feedback score is 10 to 49) 3 years 1 month WA, United States
gr8fulshadow1( 18Feedback score is 10 to 49) 1 year 1 month FL, United
States
jackiefk( 2 ) 3 years 4 months DC, United States

____________________________________________________________

sweet*cherry*pop-
FTC, ALIASES FOR VERY ROTTEN EBAY-BACKED SHILL-BID SELLER sweet*cherry*pop
BELOW:
1 exact match and 1 close match for member: sweet*cherry*pop
User ID Member for Location About Me Stores Seller's Items
Exact Match:
sweet*cherry*pop( 2600Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Member is a
PowerSellerAbout MeGo to member's eBay Store 3 years 9 months CA, United
States About Me SweetCherry Vintage Lingerie

Close Matches:
sweetcherrypop( 24Feedback score is 10 to 49) 1 year 1 month Germany

(Seller anibass( 45Feedback score is 10 to 49) Feb-11-07 15:07 220071742285
SOOOOOOOOOOO BUSTED ROTTEN Germany EBAY!-BUYER sweetcherrypop),

(Seller asolitaryman ( private ) Dec-23-03 11:05 2872607394, Seller
asap-designshop( 4691Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-11-07 15:14
200069001510-BUYER anibass),

Buyer forever-vinyl( 423Feedback score is 100 to 499) Changed User ID (less
than 30 days) Feb-11-07 15:06 220071712534-SELLER anibass,

Buyer chiar-di-luna( 12Feedback score is 10 to 49) Changed User ID (less than
30 days) Jan-30-07 21:25 110081847340-SELLER clau9974,

Seller pepernotenblue( 58Feedback score is 50 to 99) Dec-04-06 04:42
180054968135 Netherlands MY ASS EBAY!-BUYER clau9974,

FTC HUGE FLAG HERE! LMAO!:
79 feedback received by pepernotenblue
92 feedback left by pepernotenblue W/ONLY ONLY MERELY Feedback Score: 58 <---
BIG OOPS EBAY IDIOT!
(Seller wunderland*1( 4570Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Dec-11-06 07:36
130047529357, Seller wunderland*1( 4570Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)
Dec-11-06 07:34 130047521767, Seller wunderland*1( 4570Feedback score is 1000
to 4,999) Dec-11-06 07:34 130048025862, Seller wunderland*1( 4570Feedback
score is 1000 to 4,999) Dec-11-06 07:33 130047522721, Seller kate35_de(
576Feedback score is 500 to 999) Dec-01-06 04:47 270055257512, Seller
trendy4me( 1904Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Dec-05-06 08:44
250051976278-BUYER pepernotenblue),

(Seller babywaren24( 775Feedback score is 500 to 999) Feb-06-07 22:00
140078072558 BIG OOPS!-BUYERS chiar-di-luna, goldas-gmbh, leonora18, leonei22),

Seller j.w.style( 182Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-06-07 22:00
160078287364-BUYER j.w.style,

FTC HUGE FLAG HERE!:
4355 feedback received by sweet*cherry*pop
4471 feedback left by sweet*cherry*pop W/ONLY ONLY MERELY Feedback Score: 2601
<--- BIG OOPS EBAY IDIOT!
(Seller fantasy( 6931Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Jan-11-07 13:38
190067621240 BUSTED STUPID OHIO EBAY! HAHA!-BUYER sweet*cherry*pop),

(Seller fantasy( 6931Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Jan-23-07 11:03
190067643071 HUGE OOPS EBAY FOOL! HAHA!, Seller fantasy( 6931Feedback score is
5,000 to 9,999) Jan-23-07 11:02 190067643038 OMG! LMAO!, Seller fantasy(
6931Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999)Jan-23-07 11:01 190067642954, Seller
fantasy( 6931Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Jan-23-07 11:01 190066728049,
Seller kdiec7( 328Feedback score is 100 to 499) Jan-05-07 20:28 Private,
Seller themockingbird51( 1844Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Dec-12-06 18:38
Private-BUYER flutterbye60),

Buyer miranda8912( 100Feedback score is 100 to 499) Jan-22-07 10:29
260073260632-SELLER flutterbye60,

OH MY FTC! HUGE FLAG HERE!:
350 feedback received by miranda8912
368 feedback left by miranda8912 W/ONLY ONLY MERELY Feedback Score: 100 <---
OMG! ROTTEN ROTTEN EBAY JUGGLING THE FIGURES HERE TO COVER-UP FRAUD!!! THIS
WOULD BE ONE OF THE MOTHER-LODES OF EBAY-BACKED SHILL-BIDDING RINGS!!!

(Seller cyberpikey( 141Feedback score is 100 to 499) Changed User ID (less than
30 days) Jan-21-07 14:18 120068412733 OMG EBAY!!!, Seller cyberpikey(
141Feedback score is 100 to 499) Changed User ID (less than 30 days) Jan-21-07
14:18 120068200266, Seller cyberpikey( 141Feedback score is 100 to 499)
Changed User ID (less than 30 days) Jan-21-07 14:14 120068193761
SOOOOOOOOOOOOO LMAO!, Seller art-closeouts( 21062Feedback score is 10,000 to
24,999) no longer a registered user Jan-21-07 17:18 190071846814 OOPS!,
Seller scarlett2272( 1022Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Jan-21-07 13:14
Private, Seller bangkokgems( 19196Feedback score is 10,000 to 24,999)
Jan-21-07 12:51 260067516678 SOOOOOOOO BUSTED! Thailand MY OH SO HAPPY ASS
ROTTEN EBAY!-BUYER miranda8912),

FTC UNBELIEVABLE FLAG HERE!:
205365 feedback received by bangkokgems
207021 feedback left by bangkokgems W/ONLY ONLY UNBELIEVABLY Feedback Score:
19196 <--- OMG! SAY GOOD-BYE ROTTEN EBAY!
(Seller bangkokgems( 19198Feedback score is 10,000 to 24,999) Dec-17-06 13:25
260039175648, Seller bangkokgems( 19198Feedback score is 10,000 to 24,999)
Nov-08-06 05:02 260043732917-BUYER miranda8912),

(Seller zenshao( 5680Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Dec-25-06 08:09
140062156107 SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LMAO!, Seller krosbyco( 2936Feedback score is
1000 to 4,999) Dec-27-06 16:26 120063641635, Seller stoneswei( 2479Feedback
score is 1000 to 4,999) Jan-10-07 14:48 300064857611, Seller *starkarros*(
613Feedback score is 500 to 999) Jan-16-07 22:06 200065400064 LMAO!, Seller
miss_mcp( 27Feedback score is 10 to 49) Jan-21-07 16:25 320070169084, Seller
wholesale_list_pro( 1153Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Nov-26-06 19:58
Private,
Seller xenon-hid-worlds( 402Feedback score is 100 to 499) Changed User ID (less
than 30 days) Nov-26-06 19:42 290044548974 OOPS! LMAO!, Seller monkeymicro(
2667Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Nov-26-06 19:05 Private, Seller
mtechgraphics( 1809Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Nov-26-06 17:54 Private,
Seller 2beach4surf( 268Feedback score is 100 to 499) Changed User ID (less than
30 days) Nov-26-06 09:40 220049511069 OOPS! LMAO!, Seller xtraba(
6336Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Nov-25-06 16:14 Private, Seller
chineselanguageandculturestore( 495Feedback score is 100 to 499) Nov-24-06 19:38
Private LMAO!, Seller raymxix( 2344Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Nov-23-06
16:23 Private, Seller kicllug88( 1 ) Jan-18-07 14:10 290069755033-BUYER
cyberpikey),

(Buyer chichi-grl ( private ) Jan-22-07 18:31 120073832598, Seller mateo01(
7054Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Jan-16-07 15:15 120072835717, Seller
amandah608( 90Feedback score is 50 to 99) Dec-12-06 05:58110058263386-SELLER
cyberpikey),

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From: ascottflem...@gmail.com - view profile
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A handful of people wanting to abolish ebay and another handful
defending it? What a waste, I can't believe I'm even posting, it's
like I'm somehow validating this nonsense. I guess because ebay can't
(won't) stop fraud, they should be destroyed. How about the FTC?
They can't seem to stop fraud either, should we get rid of them? Or
the Department of Justice. They're completely unable to stop fraud,
child pornography, and dozens of other heinous behaviors. I guess we
should fire them as well. After all, ebay's $4B is nothing compared
to Uncle Sam's $3T, so if financial means divided by success at
stopping bad behavior equals degree of guilt, Uncle Sam's getting away
with murder. Ebay's hardly committing a misdemeanor by those
standards.

At least I stopped myself at one (and a quarter) paragraphs. Sheesh.

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Who wants to abolish ebay? I haven't seen one single post here about
such a topic. Maybe you should start to wonder why there are so many
posters who are very pro-ebay or anti-eBay management. On the Forbes
500 poll of CEO's, eBay's CEO, Meg Whitman ranked an impressive 4%
approval rating. http://www.forbes.com/2003/05/01/cx_ceointernetpoll.html
There is a reason for this.

The Vladuz related scams are just one short chapter in the problems
that are plaguing the compnay. They are currently all over the
eBay.com site, therefore there are those of us who discuss it. When
the MercExchange case finally gets heard, we'll probably discuss that
too. Investing in a company only on the merits of what is learned
through press releases and annual or quarterly reports (which are
proven to be manipulated by eBay) is just silly. Look at the big
picture...or don't.

OMG FTC... SHUT EBAY DOWN NOW!!!!

... TO BE CON'T. OF COURSE!!! LOL!
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Reported Seller: eforcity
Reported Buyers: ishop2much79
barkerfam

Item number(s): 320065477995
320076378175

Customer concern: GAME'S UP EBAY... MAY-DAY! MAY-DAY FOR EBAY!!!!!!
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LMAO!!!!
FTC-SHUT EBAY DOWN ASAP!!!!!!
FTC-SHUT EBAY DOWN ASAP!!!!!!
FTC-SHUT EBAY DOWN ASAP!!!!!! FTC, I EXPECT YOU TO ACT NOW!!!!!
POSITIVE PROOF OF EBAY SHILL-BIDDING PYRAMIDS/RINGS!
FTC THIS ONE REPORT SHOULD BE ALL YOU NEED TO SHUT
EBAY DOWN TODAY!!!
FTC FILE #5741097
ST FILE #FFO988-05
PLEASE FORWARD TO APPROPRIATE DEPT.... HACKERS TRYING
TO STOP MY REPORTS TO YOU! BE SURE TO CHECK ALL, ALL
IP'S TO ALL, ALL ID'S LISTED!!! CROSS REFERENCING
IP'S IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE! YOU MUST INVESTIGATE
THE BIDDING/SELLING OF EACH & EVERY ID IN THE AUCTION
NUMBERS I LIST!

ADD item number:
OMG! OMG FTC! THIS IS THE ROTTEN ROTTEN EBAY MOTHER-LODE!!! CHECK IT OUT!
OHHHH MYYYYYYYYYYYY! HAHAHAHA!
(Seller wholesaleoem( 5495Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Changed User ID
(less than 30 days) Feb-09-07 23:52 280074248700 SOOOOOOOOOOOO ABSOLUTELY
BUSTED! SOOOO LMAO!, Seller wholesaleoem( 5495Feedback score is 5,000 to
9,999) Changed User ID (less than 30 days) Feb-09-07 23:52 280074610829,
Seller bargaincell( 211728Feedback score is 100,000 or higher) Jan-29-07 17:54
250078303929 BIG OOPS EBAY FOOL! LMAO!, Seller smartstation( 115127Feedback
score is 100,000 or higher) Jan-29-07 13:56 120080181772 OOPS! LMAO!, Seller
smartstation( 115127Feedback score is 100,000 or higher) Jan-29-07 13:48
120080186417 HAHA!, Seller accstation( 468842Feedback score is 100,000 or
higher) Jan-29-07 03:47 290076921100, Seller accstation( 468843Feedback
score is 100,000 or higher) Feb-09-07 22:01 290076921100 SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ABSOLUTELY BUSTED STUPID "STATIONS"! LMAO!, Seller imagestore( 32028Feedback
score is 25,000 to 49,999) no longer a registered user Jan!
-28-07 05:16 Private OOPS!, Seller everydaysource( 508942Feedback score is
100,000 or higher) Jan-08-07 09:22 180072216548 OOPS EBAY IDIOT!, Seller
everydaysource( 508942Feedback score is 100,000 or higher) Jan-05-07 08:06
180071168640 LMAO!, Seller accessoriescity( 17838Feedback score is 10,000 to
24,999) Jan-05-07 16:21 110075507197, Seller gsm-store( 92273Feedback score
is 50,000 to 99,999) Jan-08-07 22:45 260072768408, Seller key.connex(
510Feedback score is 500 to 999) Changed User ID (less than 30 days) Jan-08-07
20:36 Private SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ABSOLUTELY BUSTED ROTTEN EBAY! LMAO!,
SELLER chrisandkelly07( 275Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feb-04-07 17:31:15
290079649990 OMG! OMG FTC! OMG! SOOOOOOOOOOO LMAO!-BUYER ishop2much79),

(Seller liquidationland( 35938Feedback score is 25,000 to 49,999) Jan-30-07
19:39 150080312332 OMG!, Seller liquidationland( 35938Feedback score is
25,000 to 49,999) Jan-30-07 19:39 150080873872 LMAO!, Seller atvgolfnut28qr(
48Feedback score is 10 to 49) Jan-24-07 11:24 Private-BUYER fenwickboi),

Seller szmay05( 2271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Jan-14-07 12:57
130058978015 BUSTED! China & Puerto Rico MY SWEET ASS STUPID EBAY! HAHA!-BUYER
lendeja,

(Seller mancuso-hd( 717Feedback score is 500 to 999) May-07-06 15:13
4629391098 Puerto Rico MY ASS EBAY!, Seller excelbiker( 1901Feedback score is
1000 to 4,999) May-03-06 09:13 4625884436 OOPS!, Seller excelbiker(
1901Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) May-03-06 09:13 4623909992 LMAO!-BUYER
teresa1374),

(Seller szdtt78( 1 ) Aug-21-05 00:53 6554952955 OOPS! LMAO!, Seller
szflash06( 12Feedback score is 10 to 49) no longer a registered user Apr-03-05
19:44 5765160972 OOPS!-BUYER szmay05),

Seller masterlj2( 4 ) Jan-09-05 17:05 4349548443 SO LMAO!-BUYER szflash06,

Buyer szmay05( 2271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Aug-21-05 07:54
6554952955 OOPS!-SELLER masterlj2,

Seller aprettyworld( 5 ) Jan-15-05 05:27 6504916611 OOPS!-BUYER masterlj2,

Seller szfeel05( 18Feedback score is 10 to 49) Aug-26-05 00:50
5610259647-BUYER aprettyworld,

Seller szbasket( 13Feedback score is 10 to 49) no longer a registered user
Sep-17-05 06:10 4405796624 LMAO!-BUYER szfeel05,

Buyer szmay05( 2271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-02-05 16:57
7131450678 OOPS!-SELLER aprettyworld,

Buyer szdtt78( 1 ) Aug-27-05 09:10 5610260527-SELLER szfeel05,

Buyer szmay05( 2271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Aug-21-05 07:54
6554952955 LMA0!-SELLER szdtt78,

HAHA! FTC NOTE:
eBay Member User ID History
The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
This person was merged on Aug-20-05 07:56:32 PST.
User ID Effective Date End Date
szdtt78 Aug-20-05
cest2004 Nov-26-05 Aug-20-05
masterlj2 Sep-25-04 Nov-26-05

(Seller szsupplier( 5911Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Feb-02-07 11:09
27008089915 SO BUSTED! China MY ASS EBAY!, Seller flash_outlet( 10884Feedback
score is 10,000 to 24,999) Jan-11-07 08:59 260071328689 Hong Kong MY ASS
EBAY!, Seller www00007com( 75Feedback score is 50 to 99)
no longer a registered user Jan-19-07 09:31 230070909146 OOPS! LMAO!-BUYER
bigbadant420),

(Seller cmurask( 9875Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Dec-18-06 03:07
140064811260, Seller ornaments4less( 24580Feedback score is 10,000 to 24,999)
Dec-18-06 13:21 280058788749 OMG! BIG BUST! SO LMAO!, Seller manu96789(
18Feedback score is 10 to 49) Dec-31-06 18:03 160068160450 OMG!
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VERY BUSTED!, Seller szmay05( 2271Feedback score is 1000 to
4,999) Jan-14-07 12:57 130058978015 BUSTED!, Seller dongdong2016( 8 )no
longer a registered user Jan-24-05 02:10 6737419764 LMAO!, Seller digi4me(
32427Feedback score is 25,000 to 49,999) Changed User ID (less than 30 days)
Jun-03-04 15:46 3819523723 BIG OOPS!, Seller everydaysource( 509348Feedback
score is 100,000 or higher) Aug-11-03 19:09 3040089828 BIG EBAY BUST!, Seller
everydaysource( 509348Feedback score is 100,000 or higher) Apr-03-03 14:23
3016366547 BAD BAD EBAY! LMAO!, Seller jerseystore2000( 34981Feedback score is
25,000 to 49,999) Aug-12-02 11:08 1846285925, Seller jers!
eystore2000( 34981Feedback score is 25,000 to 49,999) Mar-17-03 11:50
2715793671 OOPS! HAHA!, Seller jerseystore2000( 34981Feedback score is 25,000
to 49,999) Jul-29-02 10:25 1845757552, Seller jerseystore2000( 34981Feedback
score is 25,000 to 49,999) Jul-29-02 10:25 1845757552, Seller jb8284(
7121Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Oct-14-01 10:54 1017512366, Seller
jb8284( 7121Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Oct-07-01 14:04 1014390648,
Seller cashco1000( 79470Feedback score is 50,000 to 99,999) Jan-03-07 22:27
190063708532, Seller juvi816( 81Feedback score is 50 to 99) Jan-04-07 13:01
320064974783, Seller lilliheartdesigns( 4683Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)
Jan-05-07 17:37 6201243285, Seller hardford426( 106Feedback score is 100 to
499) Jan-08-07 13:29 200064021820, Seller dsd54( 586Feedback score is 500 to
999) Jan-11-07 13:32 200063724848, Seller pegohrt2( 1080Feedback score is
1000 to 4,999) Jan-14-07 09:32 270073681417, S!
eller digital4cheap( 57392Feedback score is 50,000 to 99,999) Jan-26-
07 09:30 330069683803, Seller cametaauctions( 173804Feedback score is
100,000 or higher) Feb-08-07 22:55 160079702574, Seller j_cip( 10291Feedback
score is 10,000 to 24,999) Feb-16-07 05:29 320073875310 OMG! LMAO!, Seller
2cooking1983( 1176Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Jan-18-07 13:01
130063982870, Seller turn_heads( 367Feedback score is 100 to 499) no longer a
registered user Jan-12-07 11:39 300063400650 OOPS! HAHA!-BUYER nicknissan),

(Seller go-go-wholesale( 332Feedback score is 100 to 499) Changed User ID (less
than 30 days) Dec-28-06 19:42 180062669299 BUSTED!, Seller italysuits(
382Feedback score is 100 to 499) Dec-28-06 22:48 300059829761 BUSTED! Israel
MY ASS EBAY!, Seller italysuits( 382Feedback score is 100 to 499) Dec-28-06
22:48 300059496872, Seller lotsnretail( 218Feedback score is 100 to 499)
Jan-20-07 14:13 180075723552 OMG! SOOOOOOOOOOOO LMAO!, Seller dermalgenesis(
8898Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Jan-25-07 13:10 230079736793-BUYER
turn_heads),

(Seller arcadysales( 4973Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-22-07 17:34
180086102613, Seller killerbooks( 762Feedback score is 500 to 999) Dec-06-06
12:32 140060314869, Seller reallybigpromotions( 163Feedback score is 100 to
499) Dec-05-06 16:00 120058461667, Seller wicksy33( 3623Feedback score is
1000 to 4,999) Dec-05-06 14:42 110061562828, Seller social_relationz(
1327Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Dec-05-06 00:35 190052065542-BUYER
go-go-wholesale),

(Buyer make_a_life_of_this( 2 ) Changed User ID (less than 30 days) Feb-28-07
18:17 180086814378 OOPS!, Buyer nate0486( 18Feedback score is 10 to 49)
Changed User ID (less than 30 days) Feb-26-07 15:20 180086709247 OOPS!, Buyer
scotttampafl( 52Feedback score is 50 to 99) Changed User ID (less than 30 days)
Feb-06-07 07:38 180075005361 LMAO!, Buyer nellyucla ( private ) Jan-22-07
18:03 180076311987, Buyer jordan64140( 43Feedback score is 10 to 49) no
longer a registered user Jan-18-07 12:40 180071581158 OOPS! France MY ASS
EBAY! LMAO!-SELLER go-go-wholesale),

(Buyer babymace2 ( private ) Jan-23-07 05:32 290072485419 OMG! TOOO
FUNNY!-SELLER nicknissan),

Seller shop_4u( 1561Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-01-07 16:54 Private SO
BUSTED! India MY HAPPY ASS STUPID EBAY! LMAO!-BUYER mehrdad1112,

Buyer money*4*mom( 4251Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Changed User ID (less
than 30 days) Jan-21-07 15:55 160069209583 OOPS!-SELLER manu96789,

Seller mustangsunlimited( 20975Feedback score is 10,000 to 24,999) Apr-21-06
09:40 8054241267-BUYER manu96789,

OMG FTC! GOT OURSELVES A RUNNER HERE! OMG! LMAO!:
eBay Member User ID History
The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
User ID Effective Date End Date
money*4*mom Feb-08-07 Present
chuckerbunz Jan-09-07 Feb-08-07
*gitterdone* Nov-10-06 Jan-09-07
*m-f-f-l* Sep-06-06 Nov-10-06
mavsfans4life Jul-26-06 Sep-06-06
*halftime* Mar-24-06 Jul-26-06
*just-us-4* Feb-12-06 Mar-24-06
justa*buncha*nuts Jan-12-06 Feb-12-06
hoops*mom Nov-18-05 Jan-12-06
disney*maniac Oct-12-05 Nov-18-05
*my-cluttered-closets* Sep-12-05 Oct-12-05
woobalooba Aug-13-05 Sep-12-05
menopausal-mama Jul-13-05 Aug-13-05
*jbr-auctions* Jun-09-05 Jul-13-05
24*7mom May-05-05 Jun-09-05
*boys-r-us* Apr-04-05 May-05-05
*organized-chaos* Mar-05-05 Apr-04-05
24*7mom Feb-12-04 Mar-05-05
highwayworkers*wife Jan-13-04 Feb-12-04
minivan*mama Nov-13-03 Jan-13-04
1*busy*mom Mar-19-03 Nov-13-03
stuff*etc Feb-17-03 Mar-19-03
mom-2-2-boys Nov-26-02 Feb-17-03
badgerron Jul-04-02 Nov-26-02
____________________________________________________________

FTC HUGE FLAG HERE!:
33 feedback received by barkerfam
9 feedback left by barkerfam W/Feedback Score: 33 <--- BIG OOPS!
(SELLER jayc( 30866Feedback score is 25,000 to 49,999) Jun-09-99 08:38 OOPS!,
SELLER plusbonus( 4989Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)Jan-28-00 16:42, SELLER
down-n-out( 3029Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Nov-23-00 18:58 1100589830,
Seller savedforyears( 8372Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Jun-10-05 18:38
7976735979, Seller jose_b14( 64Feedback score is 50 to 99) Sep-01-04 09:42
5716825932, Seller brettssportscards( 1743Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)
Dec-11-03 15:30 2770731283, Seller mr_buckeye_27( 409Feedback score is 100
to 499) Dec-09-03 15:15 2769432091, Seller boringgal( 2160Feedback score is
1000 to 4,999) Dec-08-03 08:45 2769651582, Seller webs96( 2471Feedback score
is 1000 to 4,999) Dec-07-03 15:05 2769647444, Seller doc_dees_cards(
466Feedback score is 100 to 499) Dec-07-03 05:21 2769681893, Seller
seamanaj( 112Feedback score is 100 to 499) Jun-24-03 08:39 3020853426, Seller
pandtsportscards( 3984Feedback score is 1000 to 4!
,999) May-01-03 11:37 2722423448 SELLER jriggs34( 2105Feedback score is 1000
to 4,999) Nov-23-00 18:59 486061770, SELLER jim20( 7841Feedback score is
5,000 to 9,999) Dec-05-98 11:52, SELLER rivera_bob( 132Feedback score is 100 to
499) Aug-27-98 10:03, SELLER obi-wanscards( 770Feedback score is 500 to 999)
Jun-08-98 17:35-BUYER barkerfam),

FTC HUGE FLAG HERE!:
49840 feedback received by jayc
69952 feedback left by jayc W/ONLY ONLY MERELY Feedback Score: 30926 <--- OH
MY! LMAO!

(Seller cccsportscards( 1604Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Jan-18-07 16:26
190059990187 OMG! SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ABSOLUTELY BUSTED! LMAO!, Seller
cccsportscards( 1604Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Jan-18-07 16:25
190059995900, Seller pumphuntr( 180Feedback score is 100 to 499) Jan-04-07
02:51 160067678691, Seller ttownsully( 1635Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)
Feb-07-07 20:22 110085319303, Seller jadacollectables( 6005Feedback score is
5,000 to 9,999) Feb-16-07 11:26 170075600892-BUYER jayc),

Seller mustangsunlimited( 20975Feedback score is 10,000 to 24,999) Apr-21-06
09:40 8054241267-BUYER manu96789,

OMG FTC! GOT OURSELVES A RUNNER HERE! OMG! LMAO!:
eBay Member User ID History
The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
User ID Effective Date End Date
money*4*mom Feb-08-07 Present
chuckerbunz Jan-09-07 Feb-08-07
*gitterdone* Nov-10-06 Jan-09-07
*m-f-f-l* Sep-06-06 Nov-10-06
mavsfans4life Jul-26-06 Sep-06-06
*halftime* Mar-24-06 Jul-26-06
*just-us-4* Feb-12-06 Mar-24-06
justa*buncha*nuts Jan-12-06 Feb-12-06
hoops*mom Nov-18-05 Jan-12-06
disney*maniac Oct-12-05 Nov-18-05
*my-cluttered-closets* Sep-12-05 Oct-12-05
woobalooba Aug-13-05 Sep-12-05
menopausal-mama Jul-13-05 Aug-13-05
*jbr-auctions* Jun-09-05 Jul-13-05
24*7mom May-05-05 Jun-09-05
*boys-r-us* Apr-04-05 May-05-05
*organized-chaos* Mar-05-05 Apr-04-05
24*7mom Feb-12-04 Mar-05-05
highwayworkers*wife Jan-13-04 Feb-12-04
minivan*mama Nov-13-03 Jan-13-04
1*busy*mom Mar-19-03 Nov-13-03
stuff*etc Feb-17-03 Mar-19-03
mom-2-2-boys Nov-26-02 Feb-17-03
badgerron Jul-04-02 Nov-26-02
____________________________________________________________

FTC HUGE FLAG HERE!:
33 feedback received by barkerfam
9 feedback left by barkerfam W/Feedback Score: 33 <--- BIG OOPS!
(SELLER jayc( 30866Feedback score is 25,000 to 49,999) Jun-09-99 08:38 OOPS!,
SELLER plusbonus( 4989Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)Jan-28-00 16:42, SELLER
down-n-out( 3029Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Nov-23-00 18:58 1100589830,
Seller savedforyears( 8372Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Jun-10-05 18:38
7976735979, Seller jose_b14( 64Feedback score is 50 to 99) Sep-01-04 09:42
5716825932, Seller brettssportscards( 1743Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)
Dec-11-03 15:30 2770731283, Seller mr_buckeye_27( 409Feedback score is 100
to 499) Dec-09-03 15:15 2769432091, Seller boringgal( 2160Feedback score is
1000 to 4,999) Dec-08-03 08:45 2769651582, Seller webs96( 2471Feedback score
is 1000 to 4,999) Dec-07-03 15:05 2769647444, Seller doc_dees_cards(
466Feedback score is 100 to 499) Dec-07-03 05:21 2769681893, Seller
seamanaj( 112Feedback score is 100 to 499) Jun-24-03 08:39 3020853426, Seller
pandtsportscards( 3984Feedback score is 1000 to 4!
,999) May-01-03 11:37 2722423448 SELLER jriggs34( 2105Feedback score is 1000
to 4,999) Nov-23-00 18:59 486061770, SELLER jim20( 7841Feedback score is
5,000 to 9,999) Dec-05-98 11:52, SELLER rivera_bob( 132Feedback score is 100 to
499) Aug-27-98 10:03, SELLER obi-wanscards( 770Feedback score is 500 to 999)
Jun-08-98 17:35-BUYER barkerfam),

OMG FTC... SHUT EBAY DOWN NOW!!!!

... TO BE CON'T. OF COURSE!!! LOL!
____________________________________________________________

Listing Violations > Fraudulent listings (illegal seller demands, you didn't
receive item, etc) > Seller is using other accounts to inflate item price (shill
bidding)

Item number(s):
250088915305
250088916867
250088908117
250088913213

Message: BLATANT EBAY-BACKED SHILL-BIDDING HERE FTC!!!

OMG FTC! GOT OURSELVES A RUNNER HERE!!! LMAO!:
eBay Member User ID History
The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
User ID Effective Date End Date
flyinglemon Mar-01-07 Present
mrtjhooker Dec-19-06 Mar-01-07
165flyboy165 Nov-03-06 Dec-19-06
165michelin165 Oct-02-06 Nov-03-06
tommyboy2006165 Jul-16-06 Oct-02-06
1999vehicross Jun-07-06 Jul-16-06
3shaw3 Jan-10-06 Jun-07-06
hookertj Nov-30-05 Jan-10-06
areweflyingyet Oct-28-05 Nov-30-05
propbuster165 Sep-22-05 Oct-28-05
flywithama Jun-09-05 Sep-22-05
policeman00 May-08-05 Jun-09-05
honeywell1978 Apr-08-05 May-08-05
lovetobid2021 Feb-24-05 Apr-08-05
ready2buy1953 Jan-06-05 Feb-24-05
hookertj Nov-27-04 Jan-06-05
honeywell1978 Oct-28-04 Nov-27-04
911dont4get Sep-07-04 Oct-28-04
sandspider165 Jun-26-04 Sep-07-04
joejoe165 Apr-29-04 Jun-26-04
tjh2021 Oct-08-03 Apr-29-04
(Seller squared_circle_toys( 3706Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) no longer a
registered user Jan-05-07 19:02 170053792718, Seller livingn0w( 211Feedback
score is 100 to 499) Dec-16-06 17:09 Private, Seller isoldit.pa0193(
3491Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Feb-03-07 11:43 300074232396 <--- HUGE
BUST FTC! THIS IS AN EBAY PHYSICAL STORE WHICH IS INVOLVED IN THESE EBAY-BACKED
SHILL-BID RINGS! LMAO!, Seller rcpower2006( 4560Feedback score is 1000 to
4,999) no longer a registered user Dec-30-06 18:12 140063652119 Hong Kong MY
ASS EBAY!, Seller itrimming( 469742Feedback score is 100,000 or higher)
Dec-05-06 12:31 160055352374 HUGE EBAY BUST! LMAO!-BUYER flyinglemon),
(Seller squared_circle_toys( 3706Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) no longer a
registered user Jan-05-07 19:02 170047896670-BUYERS flyinglemon, myhemi9,
jjacobs1974, m_anne73, louisiana_mommy),

CHECK IT OUT FTC!:
eBay Member User ID History
The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
User ID Effective Date End Date
fast_eddys_used_cars Feb-26-07 Present
*jack*schitt* Jan-15-07 Feb-26-07
*big*bad*wolf* Nov-07-06 Jan-15-07
(Seller distributing_e-books( 618Feedback score is 500 to 999) Changed User ID
(less than 30 days) Mar-04-07 20:04 300077533314 OMG FTC! BLATANT EBAY-BACKED
SHILL-BIDDING HERE! OMG! OMG! HAHAHA!, Seller rateitbuyit( 1408Feedback score
is 1000 to 4,999) Mar-05-07 03:32 140090399720 OMG FTC! BLATANT EBAY-BACKED
SHILL-BIDDING HERE AGAIN! OMG! OMG! HAHAHA! FTC THESE ARE VERY CLEAR EXAMPLES OF
THE ROTTEN EBAY-BACKED SHILL-BIDDING RINGS THA EXIST ON EBAY! THIS IS FRAUD!!!,
Seller zonkersuk( 296Feedback score is 100 to 499) New eBay Member (less than
30 days) Mar-05-07 00:32 190084696017 FTC SAME OL' SAME OL' HERE! SOOOOOOOOOOO
LMAO! FTC zonkersuk HAS ONLY ONLY BEEN A Member since: Feb-17-07 & ALREADY HAS
Feedback Score: 296!!! OMG! ROTTEN EBAY'S BEEN REAL BUSY, EH???!!! HAHAHA! EBAY
THIS WOULD BE A HUGE FLAG FOR YOU YOU FOOL! LMAO! OH & UK MY WONDERFUL ASS EBAY!
LMAO!, Seller optionsxpress99( 31Feedback score is 10 to 49) New eBay Member
(less than 30 days) Mar-06-07 00:25 180092402451, Seller vitalxxl(
170Feedback score is 100 to 499) Mar-04-07 23:51 Private SOOOOOOOOOOOO BUSTED!
Switzerland MY WONDERFUL ASS EBAY! LMAO!, Seller ewebfocus( 395Feedback score
is 100 to 499) Mar-04-07 17:47 Private, Seller andrea_christian( 1686Feedback
score is 1000 to 4,999) Mar-05-07 14:25 150098331927 SOOOOOOOOOOO BUSTED!
Italy MY HAPPY ASS STUPID EBAY!, Seller layhorsestolose( 349Feedback score is
100 to 499 Mar-04-07 14:55 320088379822 B!
USTED UK!, Seller x-tremejeep( 34Feedback score is 10 to 49) Mar-04-07 10:40
190088735440, Seller indifan_donovan( 117Feedback score is 100 to 499)
Mar-03-07 12:56 290090021596, Seller pootytootpass( 1095Feedback score is
1000 to 4,999) Mar-03-07 12:12 280088731261-BUYER fast_eddys_used_cars),

cc: FTC
____________________________________________________________

Listing Violations > Fraudulent listings (illegal seller demands, you didn't
receive item, etc) > Seller is using other accounts to inflate item price (shill
bidding)

Item number(s):
130061599943
130060704981
130070553617
130059601318
130057585039
130051169991
130056927358
130048407455

Message: ADD ITEMS:
130053762852, 130051125020

BLATANT EBAY-BACKED SHILL-BIDDING HERE FTC!!!

cc: FTC
____________________________________________________________

Listing Violations > Fraudulent listings (illegal seller demands, you didn't
receive item, etc) > Seller is using other accounts to inflate item price (shill
bidding)

Item number(s):
140066652024
140060617838
140086740915
140086746850
140088562925
140089289892
140089942758
140090930167

Message: BLATANT EBAY-BACKED SHILL-BIDDING HERE FTC!!!

(Seller redtagmarket( 94777Feedback score is 50,000 to 99,999) Jan-16-07 16:38
110067617339, Seller theferretsden( 1047Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)
Jan-17-07 11:57 290063429954, Seller universal_curio( 319Feedback score is
100 to 499) Jul-27-06 02:13 Private China MY ASS EBAY!, Seller kmak333(
115533Feedback score is 100,000 or higher) Jul-10-06 17:15 4891394866 HUGE
BUST!, Seller bonniethebeagle( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99) Jan-14-07 21:19
130060523158, Seller bonniethebeagle( 66Feedback score is 50 to 99) Jan-12-07
01:02 130060253036, Seller 4corrin( 209Feedback score is 100 to 499)
Jan-10-07 06:05 140066358754, Seller 4corrin( 209Feedback score is 100 to
499) Jan-10-07 06:05 140066356179, Seller 4corrin( 209Feedback score is 100
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170062742776-BUYER nmbestjunk),

cc: FTC

OMG FTC... SHUT EBAY DOWN NOW!!!!

... TO BE CON'T. OF COURSE!!! LOL!
____________________________________________________________

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-08-07 at 16:44:29 PST

IO

Try 36*56'29.63"S, 174*55'12.01"E, Eye Alt 250m

moi

Roly

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-08-07 at 16:38:30 PST

SAYASAN----Thanks for the added info ,put that info on my album page .

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-08-07 at 16:34:30 PST

LYNN and SOGGY ----That unknown stamp is a War Tax Stamp from Bahrain

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 16:31:24 PST

Bob in WA… No, predator6774 was actually NARU’d. It didn’t show on his auctions page, but a couple days ago when I clicked on the “Send Message” button “Not a registered user” showed up beside his name in red. Something funny is going on, but at this point I wash my hands. If anyone is venal enough to bid on his stuff then they deserve whatever comes of it.

J

Hutch… The seller of that 5L1L is Peter Underhill, who has been extraordinarily helpful to me in my 1˘ Franklin learning career. Also known far and wide for his dry, economical wit. Too bad he doesn’t post anymore.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-08-07 at 16:30:50 PST

Sorry about that roly.

During my lab this afternoon we were playing with google earth. It is now mind blowing for certain areas. You can see people lining up to get on a pleasure boat next to Sidney Harbor bridge, see people walking around the Opera House.
In Auckland you can see all the cinder cones.
The views of Victoria Falls in Africa are spectacular.
Just google "victoria falls, africa". Ignore the results and click on "maps" above the input box. When map comes up, click on satellite box and keep zooming in.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-08-07 at 16:25:42 PST

KNUDEN -----Your probability right about Denmark .WIKIPEDIA says the Dutch had postgiro accounts and most other countries in Europe.That was my source and got Dutch and Denmark crossed .

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-08-07 at 16:16:40 PST

IO Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.....
Can only listen to your music if you are within USA :(
Cheers
Roly

? The New Zealand Penny Universal

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-08-07 at 16:13:09 PST

Try this for mellowing out man.
Not-for-the-lowbandwith

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-08-07 at 16:06:30 PST

Dang, a long day.

Since Brian started the day with the Grateful Dead.
Here is something to end the day with.
Once you have downloaded rhapsody you get 25 free plays so can hear the entire album (if you have speakers) for free.
If you want to save your freebies I recommend Rondella aragonesa.

Posted by cobbie10 ( 5982

)

on Mar-08-07 at 15:42:44 PST

Bidder 1, Bidder 2 etc...

It is my belief that this only comes into play once the lot goes over $200. At least that is the way it has been happening on my lots.

Strange thing I have noted as of late - people who run private auctions to keep the bidders names hidden can have the winning bidders name found once the auction has ended. All you need to do is do an advanced search ( top right of this page ) on the sellers name, chose show all items ended in the past 30 days and voila ! all private auctions are showing the winning bidders ID. It never used to do this so whether it is an ebay glitch or something new they have introduced, I have no idea. Click on the auction itself though and you cannot see any of the bidders names.

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-08-07 at 15:39:26 PST

For those that are interested:

My latest page for New Zealand Penny Universals. A nice page of re-entries on the non-watermarked waterlow paper, perf 11. Click on any of the images to give an enlarged view showing where the re-entries occur.
Have fun viewing :)
Cheers
Roly

? The New Zealand Penny Universal

Posted by vonbag ( 170

)

on Mar-08-07 at 15:13:58 PST

Dear Roger (Malolo),
Thank you again for your kind word of advice and for your proposition of help.
I had a problem with the computer (HD crash) so I couldn't get back to you or anybody else before.
I just got around this 1850-1993 mint and used Switzerland collection (almost complete, without PAX serie, NABA 1, and a VEY few other celebrities).
Stayed up a couple of nights, with pleasure, to organize it my way.
I placed it in four 64 and 32 pages stockbooks (1,2,3,4) and catalogued it accordingly.
I still have to do the Postage Due stamps, as you know I found a good one on granite paper (you call it like this, faser papier) of 1882 (that part requires another full night of work, at least).

I will soon link some Strubeli, for your vision.
I think I found a faint frame line of your potential interest on the 10 Rappen light blue: it is one of the frame lines that are not cut-into, and it is very weak until diappearing at about 2/3 from bottom on the right-hand side.
My Rayons are abosolutely not worth showing (all are defective - if they are welll margined they have a thin, a repair, a tear... -- and I could not find any abnormalities); I priced them 5 euro per piece, just for reference.

Thank very much again for your assistence!!!

I am actively using this web-site:
Swiss Taxe for the postage due stamps.

Geez, I must say: I do love Swiss postage stamps!

All the best, Paolo

Posted by ioloonie ( 5 )

on Mar-08-07 at 15:13:09 PST

Hutch

Yes, U2P.

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-08-07 at 15:11:01 PST

Jim or whoever knows - Didn't the seller of that 5L1L used to be a regular here?

Anne - I would gladly send you a little of our warm weather, I have had the air conditioner on since 10:00am . I guess that means a long hot summer.

Hutch

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-08-07 at 14:50:37 PST

reperf -- LOL your description of eBay messages. I constantly experience that ''Whack-a-mole'' game you have to play to try to click on a link on a listing. I'll click on a lot on a search, say, and on seeing the item I decide I want to check the seller's feedback or other listings, but just as I move to do so, WHAM, the link disappears from underneath my mouse and from the screen, which now contains ads for ''other similar lots'' that used to go at the bottom of a listing (where they belong, if anywhere) that you now have to scroll past to get to the lot! I wonder just how many million bids have been stifled by these MORONS who program this stuff? I'm sure it vastly exceeds whatever extra bids were generated by this annoying advertising.

Jaywild -- I don't think he was ever NARUed. He caught some flak on one lot, which was terminated, and then decided to change his ID name.

Bob in WA

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-08-07 at 14:36:29 PST

Sayasan -- I presume the most desirable covers are the ones handstamped ''Missent to Hitler''?

Lindy -- You can't fool me! Those scissors were pilfered from the Department of Motor Carriages!

Bob in WA

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 13:45:58 PST

Clark… That position on plate one late—5L1L, here—was only recut at bottom. While the top line looks recut it isn’t, it is mostly because it is a strong early impression. The yellow arrows point out the clincher double-transfer marks of that position.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 164

) on Mar-08-07 at 13:30:55 PST

NOIP From the 'Non-Latin' file comes this Imperf. block set from 1920 White Russia (Belarus)
Soggy BTW, thanks for the assist on the ID's earlier.
Lynn

Posted by abt1950 ( 224

)

on Mar-08-07 at 13:18:46 PST

Ah, but have you run the DNA????

Posted by mini*lindy ( 326

)

on Mar-08-07 at 13:14:01 PST

sayasan Richard amazing story! but I am fortunate enough to have unearthed the actual scissors Winnie's Great Grandmother used to cut the signatures from those free frank envelopes.
You will notice her personal monogram on the front DMC (Duchess of Marlborough's Cutters)

Linda

would I tell a lie!???!!

Posted by abt1950 ( 224

)

on Mar-08-07 at 13:12:38 PST

Afternoon/evening/morning from a somewhat warmer NJ.

Deal o' the day:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300086138116&from MakeTrack=true

Anne

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-08-07 at 13:09:10 PST

Richard, could you imagine what would have happened if a 1/2 Anna stamp had been attempted to be reused, the Post Office inspectors would have sent a team to search the senders office & house and the sender would have got a 10 year jail term with hard labour. I don't know what the penalty would have been for a 5 Rupee value,

David B.

Posted by sayasan ( 634

)

on Mar-08-07 at 13:02:10 PST

Richard F - amazing! That's a great story. (I was, of course, being satirical at the expense of the well known seller currently offering a catalogue and a cover from the "Winston Churchill collection" ...)

Posted by reperf ( 32

) on Mar-08-07 at 13:01:31 PST

jaywild,

For some reason PayPal will not process a refund the same way as a purchase unless funds remain in the seller's PayPal account. This is bad for buyers because the refund is delayed for at least a week and bad for sellers because of the bad PR created. Unfortunately, PayPal reporting is so bad that it seems simpler to keep the account at a zero balance as much as possible.

Unfortunately PayPal has fallen into the eBay pattern of giving a detailed answer to some question that wasn't asked and then obfuscate the answer by failing to give any type of overview. Aside from being insulting, standard eBay canned answers seem to assume that that everyone is a newbie doing their first transaction on a newly purchased used Windows-98 system with misconfigured software.

Meanwhile, eBay pages have been loading more and more slowly over time resulting in less browsing, and perhaps less buying. The experience is really bad when the connection is faster than the eBay server and parts of pages load out of order causing the page to move out from under the mouse cursor.

I guess eBay will never be remembered for the quality of its software or customer service. Buyers will have to wait longer and longer for refunds because sellers are not going to leave funds in their PayPal account just to cover potential refunds.

For future discussion: What happens when it takes longer than three months to get a certificate from an eBay sale conditional on a good certificate?

Posted by sayasan ( 634

)

on Mar-08-07 at 12:59:18 PST

Paul (belatedly) - your two Burma high values have both been telegraphically used. The right hand one is cancelled Rangoon GPO. But I think the telegraph blue crosses have been cleaned off in an attempt to make them look postally used and more attractive, which is often done. This has been done by a collector or dealer. They have NOT been used once then cleaned and then used again postally. The high values are hard to find postally used, for obvious reasons. You can also find them with wireless or treasury cancels etc.

Posted by 1covers ( 1294

)

on Mar-08-07 at 12:54:03 PST

Richard - In the early 1960's I had the pleasure to pick and buy out of a hoard of maybe 50,000 covers all addressed to the NSDAP in Munich between roughly 1932 and 1941. These had been "liberated" by U.S. troops after the war. My local dealer in Columbus, Ohio named Carl Sachs, had purchased the hoard at the dockyards when the troop fleets arrived back. I purchased all of the Danzig covers I could afford at an average of $1 each. Wish I still had a few ...

Posted by sayasan ( 634

)

on Mar-08-07 at 12:47:36 PST

David - It's a little known but extraordinary fact that Adolf Hitler was a keen philatelist, in the little spare time he had left from running the Third Reich. It helped him relax. I know this because I have a copy of a Gibbons 1937 Part 2 given by Goering to the Fuhrer for his birthday with an inscription to this effect on the fly leaf. I shall shortly be offering this on eBay at an opening bid of $999.99. Condition is not the best, admittedly, but the historical interest is clearly massive.

Hitler's specialism was collecting covers that were torn open by thieving postal workers and resealed with sellotape. Thanks to a fortunate chain of circumstances, I have succeeded in acquiring the extensive Hitler collection of slightly torn envelopes, which has lain untouched since 1945. Choice items will shortly appear in my listings, along with several yards of stuff lifted from Wikipedia, explaining who Hitler was, for the non-historians among the bidders.

Richard W.

Posted by reperf ( 32

) on Mar-08-07 at 12:40:34 PST

jaywild,

What about the top frame line of the stamp listed as 5R1L? Please explain for the West Coast audience why you think it recut or not recut.

Posted by edwardm589 ( 521

) on Mar-08-07 at 12:30:36 PST

My wife scrapbooks and is seeking postage stamps relating to niagara falls since we took a trip there. I found the US and Canada Niagara falls stamps but theya re expensive. Are there anyother countries with stamps that show the falls?

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 11:18:49 PST

Bob in WA… Looks like predator6774 cured his NARU mighty quick…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 11:16:16 PST

Bob in WA… I noticed that too, and wondered about it as well. I haven’t checked any other finished auctions that had previously showed only “Bidder 1, 2 etc.” so don’t know if that’s the norm.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-08-07 at 11:06:50 PST

Hutch -- Norwegian coffee bean freeze, perhaps?

Nomad and Jaywild -- You guys are all wet. That's the second best scan of his three lots!

Brian -- Fascinating post, thank you! Those unpicked first bureaus sound interesting. Any chance there are any plate singles? Are they all 2˘, or are other denominations present? Did he receive any foreign mail?

Curiouser and curiouser -- Jaywild, that lot you linked gives the winner's ID on the lot page, but in the bid history he is changed to ''Bidder 8''!

Nomad -- I'd probably be interested in that lot myself, as you described it, if it isn't cherry-picked too heavily. The descriptions of living conditions and the musical references would be of interest to me.

Bob in WA

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 10:50:08 PST

NOIP… Here’s a good example of what quality will fetch on eBay these days. Doesn’t hurt that this seller is known far and wide as one of the true experts in this issue, and that he is completely above reproach.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-08-07 at 10:23:56 PST

Bjornmu , It looks like Olai but I will see if it is spelled in other letters.

Hutch

Posted by bjornmu ( 896

) on Mar-08-07 at 10:06:01 PST

Of course, hard currencies were needed to pay IMports with, but you probably understood that. :-)

Posted by bjornmu ( 896

) on Mar-08-07 at 10:02:02 PST

Olai? Are you sure you got that right?

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-08-07 at 09:21:53 PST

Bjornmu - Thanks . My box of letters has family in Tromso, Norway and in a visit it was wrote that coffee was rationed and so late after the war I did'nt understand why. Now if I could find the descendants of Olai Nilson I'll be done.

Hutch

Posted by bjornmu ( 896

) on Mar-08-07 at 09:05:10 PST

Hutch, why Coffee was rationed in Norway: there was a shortage of hard currencies to pay exports with (we hadn't found the oil yet...) and it was prioritized to (re)build infrastructure. Other imports were rationed too, like chocolate and cars.

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 08:28:36 PST

briguy… The Dead’s exemplary rendition of “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door” has put me in mind of an extraordinary Dylan live recording of “It’s Alright Ma”. A link is here. If you are on dialup, abandon all hope of entering here. For those on faster connections, the wait may be 30 seconds or so, but it’s well worth it. Among the unexpected lines (not in the traditional versions)—“Money doesn’t talk, it swears”.

An interesting side note: In a New Yorker review of a new Oxford book of Quotations, it is mentioned that several Bob Dylan quotes are enshrined, whereupon the writer states “Of course this is not satisfactory. They should all be here, every line.” Couldn’t agree more.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by nomad55 ( 875

)

on Mar-08-07 at 08:16:39 PST

Bri - way cool! There's a theater in NYC on the Grand Concourse called the Paradise thats in a very similar situation. I had been there several times in its prime to watch movies like the Ten Commandments. The surrounding area is now quite run down, with the theater being closed. But the Paradise is now under restoration to its former grandeur, and will be used for concerts and such.

bob in was - I think we just have to say we disagree on the subject. However I have been considering listing the entire remainder of that correspondence on ebay as a single lot and seeing if there's any interest. Of course, it will have been 'cherry picked'.

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 08:07:34 PST

briguy… Far out, man!!!!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-08-07 at 07:45:30 PST

Good day all.

Brian

Many thanks, the dead made my day.

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 164

) on Mar-08-07 at 07:45:19 PST

thebiriguy1 WOW! Thanks man. Those recoring are way cool. I think I'm having a flashback.
soggy333 Glad you like. Will post more when I can get off the floor and quit drooling.
Lynn

Posted by soggy333 ( 54

) on Mar-08-07 at 07:32:01 PST

Lynn
I am glad to see unidentifieds on the board. The first two are Turkish revenues list in McDonald's cat.The next is an early Israeli revenue,listed in Bale.The next stamp is listed in Scott so I have no idea what it is. Probably a Nepalese official.The last is one of those Azerbaijani reprints.

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-08-07 at 07:18:27 PST

22028… And someone’s family collected witless children.

J

nomad55… Yep, you’ve picked the winner for the year, although to be fair the seller does say “very hard stamp to take a photo of.”

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Mar-08-07 at 07:12:47 PST

Ooops. The Uptown Theatre

Posted by soggy333 ( 54

) on Mar-08-07 at 07:09:18 PST

Paul
Its about time you got into collecting cinderellas. It is the true graduation exercise for the world wide collector who has every thing. I always took those Salvadoran giros to be postal savings stamps.They were made by Seebeck.Beware of those Asturias stamps if the seller does not tell you whether or not the control mark on the back is all zeros.Those Burma stamps look legitimate. Until dbenson spotted that telegraph cancel I was going to guess that the stamps were used on a registered cover.They love those blue crayon X marks.I wonder if they have registered telegraph service? In any event it seems obvious that the collector before you erased the blue lines. He even got a little of the cancel. We know you didn't do it.

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Mar-08-07 at 07:06:58 PST

When philately, work, graphic design, music, architecture, and history, all converge

I'm up early this morn,...and worked late to boot. Yesterday I was out with a local graphic designer who is a friend of mine, whom I've called in on a large ongoing project. This is the same guy that suprised me with a sack of nearly 200 torn corners of 1st bureau issues, about a year ago. Now he's done it AGAIN! As we sat with our customer over extended dinner, plowing through way too many proofs, and way too much annoying paperwork, he mentioned he'd "found" another horde of stamps for me. After my subtle comment of "either cough them up - or i'll slug you".....he plopped up on the table 70-80 more. This time a few were desirable type I & II's, one of them Jim L, graced with an early Indy precancel! He claims they are all from a pack rat relative (long dead) who saved the corner of every letter he got 100+ years ago in Aurora IL. Thankfully he could care less about them,...and thus they are given to me!

Granted, these aren't issues that are worth much, BUT...I'm the first philatelist to ever view them! Not often does one get their fingers on 110 year old mixtures, which you can assure nobody else with an album has ever picked through!

Even our customer perked up, and commented that they were fascinating. This led to a discussion about history and how little and how few people today pay any homage to it. Somehow it was mentioned that a few years ago I'd sent an unsolicited $20 check to the Chicago based Uptown Theater preservation committee, and wouldn't you know it,...our customer sits on the board of directors of that charity (we honestly had no idea)!!

As he demanded to know HOW a younger guy like me even knew of the Uptown (it closed its doors in the early 80's), I had to fess up to once being a both a Dead head, and a long haired music aficionado, who attended one of the last open house "battle of the bands" music nights there before it finally closed its doors. Back then I was indeed young, but even so, walking into the Uptown then its final stages of decay,...it literally took my breath away. Who would have thought someplace like that even existed!

Chicago's Uptown theater is unlike anyplace else called a theater. It was born into a 1920's ragtime Chicago world of gangsters, vaudville, and silent movies. Unlike modern Spartan theaters, zero expense was spared building the Uptown. Every single inch of the place is baroque, hand sculpted, and gilded. The roof over the main stage is seven stories high! I swear if the Pope were to walk into that place, it would take his breath away...and he lives in the Vatican!

Sadly the Uptown today is crumbling and in horrid disrepair. It was even nearly was plowed under to make way for high rise condos, but some nearly extinct birds showed up to save the nearly extinct theater. Being completely abandoned for 20+ years, one day a pair of endangered Perigrine falcons decided to call its roof home, stopping the bulldozers literally as they were warming up (it doesn't help the land under the Uptown is worth 10's of millions). Thankfully, people like my customer stepped forward (with my 5 year old donation of $20 - LOL!) and saved the day. Today the Uptown is undergoing a massive renovation, and its hoped it may even be ready in its completely restored splendor, if/when Chicago lures the Olympics to the city.

Soon the world will see get to see it again (its been 25 years since the public has been inside), and ponder how in the hell people EVER considered demolishing it in the first place. Even in its current state Its stunning.

Was that long winded enough? Well....I'm not done. LOL! The whole of this has inspired me to listen to a bit of music, perhaps only jaywild will be able to appreciate, as I typed it. One of the last acts to play the Uptown before it closed, was Jerry Garcia and the Dead (regretably, I was too young for that - and didn't even live here yet). However the story behind this music took place three hours before their last appearence there. Somehow the principals of the band found themselves in the cafeteria of the downtown campus of Loyola University, giving a 10 song acoustic set to those lucky 50 or so students, who just happened to wander in to eat at that moment. The only reason a record of this event even exists, is the school DJ they borrowed the soundboard from, also happened to be a committed fan, who had the foresight to record a tape to tape reel of the event.

So enjoy, a totally ad hoc acoustic event, featuring not the typical Grateful Dead song fare, but them playing early American folk tunes. Its sort of the Soggy Bottom Boys arrive at your cafeteria to jam a few tunes, thrill 50-60 stunned onlookers,....and munch on some free tater tots. Especially humerous is a half baked Jerry himself, screwing up the intro to "dark hollow", and then laughingly snickering to the 6 actual dead-heads in attendence, ...Hey...I'm new here"

From the spacious Loyola U cafeteria, the afternoon of 11-17-1978. Enjoy. :o)

Posted by nomad55 ( 875

)

on Mar-08-07 at 07:05:47 PST

Scan of the day?

Heck, this is the scan of the year!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/us-stamp-400-10c-1913-panama-pacific_W0QQitemZ110100783178QQcategoryZ678QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-08-07 at 06:51:39 PST

Roger - You have talked so much about that Kona coffee over the years that I am going to make a point of trying it. Here in South Louisiana most drink the local brand Community , A dark roasted ,Strong ,Aromatic and quite tasty beverage.

Where has everyone gone lately ?

Hutch

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 164

) on Mar-08-07 at 06:41:11 PST

Good Morning All!
In keeping with the 'non-latin' theme, here are some of my currently unidentifieds
Roger I am still enjoying some Maui and Kona peaberrys I picked up on a recent visit to your neighborhood. I echo your praises of this elixer!
Lynn

Posted by knuden ( 2215

)

on Mar-08-07 at 06:37:35 PST

Stamps12345 - Paul - Denmark has never issued Giro stamps. :O) Yours are very interesting - I have never seen them before.

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by knuden ( 2215

)

on Mar-08-07 at 06:31:41 PST

Today I recieved the last of 3 Danish Postal wrappers for my exhibit and want to share it with you:

1. 4th. weightclass (150 - 200gr.) wrapper from Snekkersten June 19. 1916 to Lund, Sweden.
2. 7th. weigtclass (300 - 350gr.) wrapper from Randers January 19. 1917 to Basel, Switzerland. It has a duty label from the Swiss custom. Only wrapper known with this label.
3. Registered 6th weightclass wrapper (250 - 300gr.)from Copenhagen December 9. 1927 to Ann Arbor, USA. What is the complete text of the US custom cancel?

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Mar-08-07 at 06:29:40 PST

Aloha

Hutch - My guess is the lack of understanding of how to brew a really good cup of coffee. Very little Kona coffee was available right after WWII, so different couuntries were rationed. Norwegians only drank coffee on Polar Bear hunts, so there was little incentive for the hawaiians to send prime grade coffee for that use. Other than that it could have had something to do with the water being too heavy!

Roger

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-08-07 at 06:01:34 PST

New page in my collection ---Here is a new subject that I learn about last night. These are GIRO stamps from El Salvador .They are the opposite of a bank check ,used before the days of the automatic teller machines. My understanding is that a few nations like Denmark and other European countries also have them .SOMETHING DIFFERENT ,never seen them before....paul

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-08-07 at 04:57:24 PST

Good morning .

Anyone know why coffee was rationed in Norway in 1950?

Hutch

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1258

)

on Mar-08-07 at 04:41:51 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s a stamp depicting Paul preaching on Mars Hill in Greece.

Jim L.

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-08-07 at 02:38:10 PST

Richard, make that Free Franks were collected, they were first used in the 1760's but collecting them for the signatures was popular between the 1830's to 1840's.

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-08-07 at 02:24:54 PST

Richard, I think if you delved into Winston's family history you will find out that his Great Grandmother was dead and buried long before Free Franks were used and it would have been an impossibility of her collecting and studying them.

David B.

Posted by sayasan ( 634

)

on Mar-08-07 at 02:07:12 PST

Yes, it's already happened. Missed this one - 150099269114 is from the Churchill collection.

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-08-07 at 02:06:39 PST

Sayasan,

I read the tripe this morning and gave up. How anyone could believe any of it is beyond my imagination but at least I have to give Johnno an A+ for fictional writing. I am waiting to see if any have Winston's signature (or handstamp) on the back. I was also having a problem identifying the signature with what he claims it to be.

He has been listing & relisting one for weeks which he claims relates to Alderney but it is Alderley,

David B.

Posted by sayasan ( 634

)

on Mar-08-07 at 02:00:44 PST

NOIP - Have a look at 150099303801. A seller well known here. Is there any independent confirmation that Winston Churchill was (a) a philatelist and (b) collected free frank covers? And how do we feel about the inscription on this otherwise unsaleable edition of the SG Simplified, dedicating it to Winnie himself? Johnno has already listed some free frank covers. Are the rest of these about to be offered as ex-Winston Churchill? Of course, this might all be entirely above board ... Just curious.

Posted by billsey ( 842

) on Mar-07-07 at 23:18:48 PST

I remember my grandfather telling me of when he went back to the homestead (Nebraska, I think) for the funeral of the last of his parent's generation. He arrived and found the daughters (his cousins) burning all the old personal letters. He stopped them immediately and got what he could, mostly 1850-1870 material to and from family members, but judging by the ashes, it was a very small percentage of what they'd already destroyed. All I have of that is a few common covers, the contents have disappeared and I believe he sold off the territorial stuff. I still have the deed to the farm though! :-)

Posted by 22028 ( 1570

)

on Mar-07-07 at 22:28:39 PST

... and the award for the posting of the day goes to stamps12345 for his classification of the collectors here on the board.

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-07-07 at 20:58:25 PST

Nomad -- The carelessness of the direct heir doesn't necessarily speak for future generations. Unfortunately, too often those with immediate access, in an estate procedure or even a simple house move, dispose of items that others in the family would have treasured. And sometimes even if nobody is currently interested, there might be a bit of obligation to those still toddlers or even yet unborn, who one day will be intensely involved in thorough family research. The girl you mentioned may have had a first cousin, with the same grandparents, who was later crestfallen to hear of the loss of that material. Of course there's a practical limit to how much ''stuff'' can be preserved, but I don't buy the notion that nobody in the family was or ever will be interested, just because a treasure hoard fell into the hands of a neatnik who likes to travel light or process an estate briskly, or has a spiteful animosity toward an individual or his interests. I personally know of a case less than 10 years ago where probably at least $15k worth of philatelic material went to the landfill, for just that reason.

Robbin -- Welcome to the stamp board! It isn't instant chat here, so we might find a response to a post many hours later. 30 years ago is quite recent in stamp terms, and very little that new is likely to have gained value because of age, so they aren't likely to be worth more than what you put into them. I'd suggest for starters you scroll down to the bright Yellow Boxes, where you will find links to very well written articles for those in your situation. Some immediate questions you should expect are, are they mint or used, stamps or covers, from what countries, and from what kinds of sources did you acquire them. There's a big difference between saving them off the mail and hanging out at stamp stores, shows, and auctions. If you develop more specific questions, feel free to ask.

Bob in WA

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-07-07 at 20:57:43 PST

CLUTTER QUEEN------Im the only stamp collector here ,the rest of them are all weird .

We got piece-meal collectors here,some collect nucked ladies on stamps,electric shaver marks on stamps ,stamps with big rocks on them ,illegal U.S. stamps,others collect tin-can-mail countries,and many collect paper that should of been thrown in the trash after the stamp was removed ,others have lots and lots of scans,and others have lots and lots of books about stamps ....but to answer your question yes one collects stamps

Posted by clutter.queen ( 1526

)

on Mar-07-07 at 19:19:05 PST

I used to collect stamps but that was 30 years ago. And I saved them all. I am thinking of getting rid of them. But it has been soo long since I have collected that I can not remember about grading them. where can I go to brush up on evaluating a stamp.

Posted by clutter.queen ( 1526

)

on Mar-07-07 at 19:15:42 PST

good evening, are all you guys stamp collectors? got a couple of questions to ask. if that's ok. robbin

Posted by nomad55 ( 875

)

on Mar-07-07 at 19:03:38 PST

CW hutch + Bob in Wa....

There is something to be said in favor of trying to reunite the letters with the immediate family, however the question boils down to - why didn't the family keep the letters instead of selling them or getting rid of them in the first place?

Reminds me of an estate sale I attended about 10 years ago. Bought a shoe box full of correspondence running from about 1895 to 1925, all either from or to a newspaper reporter in San Francisco. One was an SF earthquake card and another a signed letter by the mayor of SF. The man's grand daughter was selling off literally everything from the condo her parents lived in after her father died. She wanted nothing.

You can't force the issue.

Posted by wrd3 ( 99

) on Mar-07-07 at 18:39:14 PST

Well, I messed up that last post. I've reported it; hopefully it will be gone soon. Trying again .....

robertzugnoni I don't know the LA area, so don't know where any of the following clubs are located, but googling Los Angeles Stamp Club yielded a list of Southern California Stamp Clubs, with contact information. Hopefully one of those on the list will work for your father.

Bill D.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1258

)

on Mar-07-07 at 18:28:19 PST

robertzugnoni
Have you check with the local Library yet? They usually have information about stamp clubs in their area.

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s a Greek Angel.

Jim L.

Posted by thines ( 1456

) on Mar-07-07 at 18:14:26 PST

Io,

Nice article in the Feb. 22 Nature on the Indonesian mud volcano. I gotta say that I'd like to be there when and if they try to slow it down by dropping all those huge concrete balls down the thing. The vision of the aforesaid huge concrete balls being spat back out at some non-trivial velocity, although unlikely, would be something to see! To keep this philatelic, maybe Indonesia post will issue a semi-postalto help pay for the clean-up costs.

Terry

Posted by robertzugnoni ( 17

) on Mar-07-07 at 18:12:00 PST

can anyone help me help my grandfather find postage stamp clubs los angekes, He needs friends/trader/collectors/ life time collector. he needs help please

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-07-07 at 17:13:52 PST

Victor… Thanks! I will just wait a little longer. I got essentially the same message back from PayPal today too.

Jim

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Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-07-07 at 17:08:04 PST

DAVID B.----thanks

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-07-07 at 16:35:13 PST

Paul, It is not a postage srtamp, it i a local fiscal but is catalogued in Y & T. They were overprinted for postal use. It has the highest catalog value in the set although I think he has added an extra zero in the price. At least it will make Ebay happy,

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-07-07 at 16:09:22 PST

Took me a while to remember his web site name.

Here are some of his photos of Kamchatka scenery.

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-07-07 at 15:57:32 PST

NEED HELP Can someone look up in a French catalog . Under Spain ,Asturias y Leon, the listing of a yellow 5 cts. stamp MNH.Does it catalog anywhere near this item on e-bay 260090833574 ,it looks like part of the same set .

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-07-07 at 15:54:51 PST

Having just reread that last post I think I'll move to Chicago.

Hutch

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-07-07 at 15:52:47 PST

Bob - I have been searching all day for family members and just posted to a New South Wales genealogy site for some information.But with this kind of stuff I would think it to be of use for someone.
The 10 years or so she lived in India she wrote of the first elections and all the communist gains and loses. They didn't have tiolets , They had a hole in the floor .And the everyday things or lack of that a woman needs that don't exist in India (can't say here)
These are middle to upper class ( Her husband was educated in London where they met, And he recieved a doctors degree )
There is a wealth of information for music and the arts (mother taught it and she played paino)She gives names , Concerts , Movies (most of a communist nature at varuos Indian film fests.
Books and authors of the day .But most importantly she tells of the reactions of the people around her to whats going on.
Theres even a late 60's divorce thats kinda heart wrenching reading the kids letters to their granny about the pain and hurt.
I havnt counted all the letters yet but but I weighed 2 pounds of airletters 300 i would guess.
I really hope theres a grandkid out there who answers my genealogy ad .

Sorry for the longer than normal post. I hope it made sence.
Hutch

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Mar-07-07 at 15:31:35 PST

Bob in WA There are lots of those sort of places still left. Lets not forget the volcano info Io gave us recently. One erupts in an Alaskan national park.....and nobody noticed until the cloud drifted over somewhere else.

Reminds me of a trip the wife and I took near Red Lake MN a few years ago. Wandering around on old sand roads (none of which appeared on our maps), fifty miles from anything else implying humanity on those maps, and not seeing another soul all day. Rather unsettling to ponder that a simple bit of car trouble, could have ultimately led to us being eaten by a bear. :-O!

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-07-07 at 15:26:46 PST

Bob in WA

A few years back one of my current students spent a couple of weeks in Kamchatka in a joint program run by the Russians and the University of Alaska, Fairbanks.

The volcanoes in both are equally remote and equally cold.
I prefer Hawaii or Tonga or anywhere else near the equator.

Unfortunately, the Kamchatka Observatory recently lost its funding from the Russian aviation whatever department. A big problem since the great circle route to Japan from the US passes quite close to the peninsula (it doesn't pass over the peninsula because there are big purple warning symbols on pilot maps). An unexpected eruption could do severe damage to one of those aircraft.

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-07-07 at 15:07:55 PST

Hutch -- If those were mine, and I didn't want to keep them, I would list them as a single lot, with ample description of the gist of contents, especially any more enticing tidbits. I would be more concerned with finding them an appreciative home than maximum realization.

Actually, if I couldn't locate relatives, I'd probably offer them to an eBay friend who collects such things first, and only list them if he passed on them. I've occasionally bid on bulk correspondences, and often encountered considerable competition!

I have 4 or 5 large correspondences stashed away waiting to be read and researched. All between about 1910 and 1960, I think. Still a lot of history, soldier experiences, or ways of life now totally gone, even that recently. Of course almost all such hoards are one-way, obtained through the recipient whose sendings went to a different location. Once in a while, though, a soldier brings home his letters received at duty and combines them with the ones he sent home, for a truly marvelous more complete piece of family history. Some may balk at privacy issues, which might be a consideration with very recent material, but if the people are long dead, and strangers besides, I think the historical value far outweighs any misguided sense of propriety. I cringe at horror stories of important material being destroyed because it was ''personal''. A hundred years from now, none of us will be capable of caring in the slightest if our innermost secrets or worst deeds are revealed.

One of the best correspondences I had was set of pen-pal letters to a 14-year-old American boy from English children about 1941, with descriptions of the Blitz and enclosed photos. I donated it to Robert Welt who does the ''Hands on'' History articles in Global Stamp News. Although it was more modern than the 19th or earlier 20th Century US material that his students usually research, they did a wonderful article on them.

Io -- Wow, hard to imagine there are still such wilderness areas without even roads to them.

Bob in WA

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-07-07 at 14:27:10 PST

?????? ???????? .

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-07-07 at 14:06:49 PST

Ed,

I forgot to say thanks,

THANKS,

David B.

Posted by ed845 ( 4357

) on Mar-07-07 at 13:43:09 PST

redratz007

There are a couple of dealers with shops in Nottingham. Just check your Yellow Pages.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 326

)

on Mar-07-07 at 13:09:26 PST

redratz As you are in Nottingham in England, not many posters to this board would be able to direct you to a local Stamp Dealer or Auction House. Check your phone directory for listed Dealers, or ask at the Library about borrowing a Stanley Gibbons Catalogue and see if they know of a Stamp Club in your area.
The value of stamp collections is mainly determined by the amount of money spent putting the collection together, stamps gathered off mail, from Dad's Office, etc. generally have a lot less value than stamps purchased from a Dealer or at a Stamp Auction.
You would first need to determine whether you have a Stamp Collection or just an Accumulation of stamps.
Good luck in your search, and perhaps you will get interested enough to begin collecting yourself?

Linda

Posted by redratz007 ( 112

) on Mar-07-07 at 12:28:29 PST

Hiya, I have loads of albums full of English and other country stamps, plus loads of loose ones, dont know the best place to find out if they are worth anything! can anyone suggest where I take them for an honest estimate. Many thanks Ratz

Posted by horadam1 ( 435

)

on Mar-07-07 at 12:14:33 PST

Jaywild - Jim: I had the same thing happen to me. It was about 3 days later that the refund finally showed up on my Paypal balance. Very efficient?

Posted by kchrist499 ( 1096

)

on Mar-07-07 at 11:56:39 PST

D.Benson

Thanks!

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-07-07 at 11:24:24 PST

Bob - After reading a lot these letters I don't know what to do. There is so much current events taking place in them, From post war London all the way to the Viet Nam war and then on top of that the human side of their lives - mom we getting married and Oh mom were going to have a baby and oh mom he turned out to be a SOB and even talks openly with her mom about being a communist and takes digs at everyone like right before she sailed back to Australia in 1967-68 the ship she was sailing on was the SS Pacifique , Just 3 days before it was renamed as she said "apparently you can't sail a ship named SS Vietnam through the Panama canal" . I really am thinking of selling as a lot just to walk away from it. I have googled there names to no avail or I would mail them to the next of kin.

Hutch

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-07-07 at 11:19:30 PST

lluehhhb -- Thank you for the covers, very much appreciated! I wish you had a topic with which I might reciprocate. I'll stay alert for unusual Chile items.

Soggy -- LOL at your characterization ''entire history of Germany'', which is about right. I am appalled at other sellers also, who post so-called descriptions that would take days to read in full, yet say virtually NOTHING about the ACTUAL LOT!! I was recently looking at some Hungary inflation covers, which involve many, many short rate periods, so the postmark date is very important. But the seller didn't even mention it, nor was it discernable in the low-res scan. Geesh!

The Powerball winners must be crestfallen! They will have to split the $370,000,000! Life is tough! So far, one in GA and one in NJ, CA not finished checking. Darn, I don't have any relatives in GA or NJ.

Bob in WA

Bob in WA

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-07-07 at 11:18:02 PST

kchrist,

they are not watermarks, they are the 1908 Varnish Lines that were applied over thre top of the ink to deter the cleaning of postmarks.

Lluehb,

doesn't matter if it is to the Philippines, Peru or wherever, it is a fake cover most probably made within the last couple of years,

David B.

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-07-07 at 10:56:06 PST

Hutch -- I have to disagree with Nomad on this. While it's true that to most, a specific name won't mean anything, taking 2 seconds (well, maybe 4, for Ophelia Rosenkrantz) to type it into the description could be a blessing for a descendant or relative searching on that name. I have found covers with contents very interesting, and have purchased lots I would undoubtedly have passed up had not the seller taken the time to briefly describe them. As for 30 years worth, it seems a shame in a way to break them up--such a trove would be wonderful for a great grandchild of the daughter to be able to read some day--but as a seller your interest is going to be maximum realization, I suppose. Surely the Robeson reference has a chance of attracting music history students, and there may be content in others similarly attractive. If one of them mentions attending the opening of the Sydney Bridge, I want it! I'd at least put the cities involved in the description. Anyone interested in Hurstville can see the rest of the address in the scan, but without the town name in the description, they'll never see it. Another interesting possibility in an extensive correspondence is a FD or EKU of a new stamp, or a first or last day of a rate.

Bob in WA

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-07-07 at 10:34:49 PST

More interesting reading here

TyheImpaler

Medvid shows 2,000,000 listings being pulled
on a daily basis, are the Scammers working too hard.
Hijacked accounts, abound buyer beware.

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-07-07 at 10:04:47 PST

PayPal headache… A week ago I returned an item I had purchased on eBay because it was misdescribed. In due time I received a notice from PayPal that a refund of $64.01 had been made to my account, however in checking my PayPal account I discovered there was no credit balance. I then checked the credit card through which the payment had been made originally—no credit there either. I wrote to PayPal, they spent 24 hours looking into the matter, then responded by saying yes, indeed there had been a credit to my account, then threw in forty paragraphs of boilerplate explaining how refunds are processed. In rechecking, I discovered that a refund still had not shown up anywhere, and responded to the PayPal message saying so. The result—silence. I just sent off another message to them, headlined in RED BOLD TYPE. Let’s see if this produces results of any kind.

Jim

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| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by knuden ( 2215

)

on Mar-07-07 at 09:44:53 PST

kchrist499 - Ken - The Wm. looks like this in my Michel Europa Katalog Ost. If it's Wm. 4, your stamps are from the 1889/04 issue. If it's without Wm. it's from the 1909/17 issue. They exist without Wm. and unperfed from 1917 too.

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-07-07 at 09:41:36 PST

nomade55 - Thanks thats the kind of help I need.

Oh God I love the internet. I googled the street of my airletters and got to see a picture of the very street.Now if I could just stop reading the d@mn things I could get something done.

Hutch

Posted by prochute ( 65

) on Mar-07-07 at 09:06:05 PST

kchrist499 on Mar-07-07 at 07:07:58 PST you wrote,

"The paper is not ribbed, all have diamond watermarks and none are in my Scott catalog."

Now these ARE NOT watermarked? Which is it???

Posted by kchrist499 ( 1096

)

on Mar-07-07 at 08:56:39 PST

Sorry! here
here

Posted by kchrist499 ( 1096

)

on Mar-07-07 at 08:53:49 PST

Regarding thos Russian watermrks..

href="http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/wmk2.jpg"> here

href="http://www.members.aol.com/kchrist499/wmk3.jpg"> here

They show up more clearly in actuality.

Posted by nomad55 ( 875

)

on Mar-07-07 at 08:42:44 PST

for cwhutch.....unless the sender or recipient is someone with Name Recognition, the addresses don't mean a thing.
So many times I have seen descriptions with words to the effect "sent to Mrs Ophelia Rosenkrantz, 346 Main Street, Topeka Kansas" Like, who really cares?

If the subject matter mentions some current event of note, then that should be included.
Of course, clear pics, front and back - thats a given.
Maybe a closeup of any pertinent postal markings.

JMHO.

Posted by kchrist499 ( 1096

)

on Mar-07-07 at 07:58:09 PST

prochute Those stamps don't have the diamond watermarks.

Ken C.

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-07-07 at 07:50:20 PST

I am trying to list 30 years worth of airletters between a mother and daughter. I really don't know where to start.

The one in front of me details her going to see Paul Robeson in March 1949 in London also her appointment to be a possible student of Franz Reizenstein and her new job as a permanent member of H.C.H.(?) with 32 hours a week,Free room/board and 25 shillings cash. To Mrs V Walsh 20 the Esplanade S. Hurstville , N.S.W. Au From Wendy Walsh 57 ct Russel St London WC1

Do I include all that in the description?

What about adresses? From Wendy Walsh 57 ct Russel St London WC1 To Mrs V Walsh 20 the Esplanade S. Hurstville , N.S.W. Au

How much to put in title - 6d airletter UK to AU 1949 Paul Robeson .

I guess I am asking what would cover collectors be looking for? Or should I even bother with contents ? Or for that fact should I just list the whole box?

Any suggestions would be greatfully appreciated. Hutch

Posted by prochute ( 65

) on Mar-07-07 at 07:46:27 PST

kchrist499Your Russia seems to be from the 1902-1905 series, Scott 64, 65 and 67. Sometimes the vertical laid lines are hard to see. Finland will have tiny circles in the field.

Posted by soggy333 ( 54

) on Mar-07-07 at 07:31:57 PST

I am confessing my secret identity now I AM bidder 3!

Posted by soggy333 ( 54

) on Mar-07-07 at 07:20:48 PST

That Johnno fits the profile of every internet scammer. To sell one phony cover on ebay he thinks that reciting the entire history of Germany in the offer (with nice Ludendorff pics) will distrct someone into forgetting the cover is fake.

Posted by bjornmu ( 896

) on Mar-07-07 at 07:13:39 PST

lluehhhb, thanks for the big "inverted PM" cover you mailed me, it arrived a few days ago! Interesting that the PM is in different inverted positions in the date dials. I muct confess the cover is so large I consider keeping just the piece with the cancels.

It does not qualify for my planned one-frame exhibit. I spent yesterday evening picking out better items of various types and ended up with 20 pages, which I then have to cut down to 15 plus maybe one item for the title page.

Posted by kchrist499 ( 1096

)

on Mar-07-07 at 07:07:58 PST

Good day all, from St. Louis

Once again I am coming to you for some detective work.

While cataloging my Russia collection, I came upon these three puzzlers.

The paper is not ribbed, all have diamond watermarks and none are in my Scott catalog.

I know that Finland has similarly designed stamps, but none with diamond watermarks.

I also know that other regions issued the same stamp. That's the extent of my repertoire of Russian philately!

I certainly would be greatful for someone to add to it.

Thanks

Ken C.

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)

on Mar-07-07 at 07:00:45 PST

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Posted by abt1950 ( 224

)

on Mar-07-07 at 06:51:31 PST

Morning/afternoon/evening from a snwoy and cold NJ. The good news is that it's not snowing much. The bad news is that it's not snowing enough to cancel classes.

jaywild: That poor thing might do very well on a valentines card. Without its perfs, it looks quite lacy. What an indignity to inflict on poor George Washington.

Anne

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-07-07 at 06:38:41 PST

Good day all.

From a warm west Texas.

Posted by lluehhhb ( 248

) on Mar-07-07 at 06:36:50 PST

This cover was originally listed as
"BR. EAST AFRICA to CHILE Old Paquebot Cover 1892 UNIQUE"

obviously that's wrong since it was sent to Philiphines. I sent a message to the seller stating this. She sent a thank you, and changed the description. Now it's addressed to... Peru

arrgghhh

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3453

)

on Mar-07-07 at 05:58:51 PST

Irritating observation relisting some unsolds today, when changing category all the description disappears and has to be re-entered.

Bill Cobb has a group of freakin' geniuses for sure.

Posted by knuden ( 2215

)

on Mar-07-07 at 05:38:24 PST

Harley Davison an American Legend Made in China! *LOL*

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1258

)

on Mar-07-07 at 04:13:01 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s a Greek stamp showing the presentation of Christ out of the set celebrating the Millennium (1,000 years) for the Mt. Athos monastery click here.

Jim L.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 326

)

on Mar-07-07 at 04:05:23 PST

JayJim I wouldn't even mind paying the $9.99 to put it out of its misery, it's the $21 airmail to Australia shipping charge that did it for me!!!!
Linda

Posted by dragonstamps ( 448

) on Mar-07-07 at 03:54:09 PST

Good morning. Boy it's cold here.
It doesn't get cold until March now?
Crazy New England weather. Who knows what will happen next?
The other day it was snowing so you couldn't see 50 feet ahead of you, and then the sun was shining 5 minutes later!

Any comments on this Cyprus would be appreciated. It has the CC watermark, but a third of the gum at the bottom of the back is missing. Is it rare enough to still be worth a decent chunk of the cat value?

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-07-07 at 02:52:04 PST

Jim - I can't sleep. So its ebay time .LOL

Hutch

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-07-07 at 02:08:11 PST

Hutch… You are up very late on a school night, aren’t you?

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-07-07 at 02:06:03 PST

NOIP… Wrong category of the day award…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-07-07 at 01:49:07 PST

Wow Jim and a bargin at 9.99.
I have always no matter the catalog value put such as that in the trash.In fact I throw away many more stamps than I keep.
I just can't stand it when you buy a large bulk lot and 50% damaged but it seems that is ebay type material. To be fair I notice that both Vance and Status's bulk lots are not any better.

Hutch

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-07-07 at 01:23:21 PST

NOIP… Can we all take up a collection, buy this poor thing then burn it? It’s had a long, full life and it’s time someone put it out of its misery.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-07-07 at 01:14:36 PST

Good morning.

D2 - Thanks for the information. As I sort my Swedish stamps from now on I'll have to keep my eye's open for those 2 towns.

NOIP - Is there anyone here who collects Sweden? If so is there any source of 19th century town names and postmarks?
My SFF only has Military cancels .

Hutch

Posted by abt1950 ( 224

)

on Mar-06-07 at 20:25:31 PST

Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of kidneys and brains (with fava beans and a good Chianti?), non-Roman alphabets, and tossing the ebay turkeys. Anne

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-06-07 at 20:17:29 PST

Terry Hines… Thanks, it was very helpful.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by abt1950 ( 224

)

on Mar-06-07 at 20:10:32 PST

due2cents: Scary indeed.

For those who use Norton, Symantec updated their antivirus protection to cover this one earlier in the week.

Anne

Posted by rlivory ( 1128

) on Mar-06-07 at 19:27:15 PST

hi all...ive come across what looks like a coil stamp #322.. the 2c washington with perf vertical 12...problem is, that stamp is rare so its hard to believe its real...its definitely perf 12 not 12.5. anyone know about this stamp? im not sure how often ill be here, but anyone can email me at katsamroo@yahoo.com thansk bob

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1258

)

on Mar-06-07 at 18:50:59 PST

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s the last of the postcard mailed from China to Israel that I’ll post. It does involve a bridge, so …. here’s the address side.

And here’s the back side.

Jim L.

Posted by thines ( 1456

) on Mar-06-07 at 18:39:07 PST

First, thanks to all for the information on that Singapore stamp. Looks like someone at Scott thought the kidney was a brain.

Jim

The 3rd and 4th class rates are messy and there are lots of them. The simplest is the basic per piece 3rd class which was, as you say, 1.5 ct. per 2 oz from 4/15/25 to 1/1/49. It then went to 2 cts for the first two and 1 ct for each additional one ounce. On 8/1/58 the rate was increased to 3 cts. for the first 2 oz and 1.5 cts for each additional.

The 4th class rates are parcel post rates and they take up many pages in Beecher & Wawrukiewicz.Hope this at least helps a bit.

Terry

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-06-07 at 18:13:02 PST

heads up
VirusonEbay

so far it seems E motors mainly but it is scarry to think ASQ is a chance for trouble.

Posted by lavart ( 1329

)

on Mar-06-07 at 18:03:53 PST

Oops. Last message was for jaywild. But I seen that iomoon has come to the rescue. Thanks! Only problem is that the number written on the card does not match any of the French numbers on iomoon's chart.

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-06-07 at 18:02:38 PST

Terence Hines… I didn’t know you were a neuroscientist. I’m impressed, and if you can diagnose kidney disease based on an image on a stamp, I’m very impressed!

By the way, I know you are an expert in the rates used for the prexies. Do you have a breakdown of the third class and fourth class rates for the prexy period, say through 1958? Also, what constitutes third class—is that parcel post or something else? I know some letters can be sent third class, because the rate in the early forties was 1˝ cent for the first two ounces I think. Fourth class I know is the book rate, and second class is the periodical rate.

Thanks in advance…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 17:46:20 PST

Terry

Michel calls it "operations-Team."

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-06-07 at 17:36:18 PST

thines,

Gibbons calls it " Medical Sciences ",

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-06-07 at 17:28:08 PST

Paul, the 1st. one has a Telegraphic cancel, it was most probably additionally tied to the form before it was cancelled. It was common practice in India to apply a marking across the stamp to the envelope before posting to make sure that the staff member that took the envelope to the PO didn't remove the stamp on the way,

David B.

Posted by thines ( 1456

) on Mar-06-07 at 17:23:47 PST

Greetings from a pleasantly cool (finally - it's been a really whimpy winter so far) Carmel NY where it's now 6 F out and I'm just in from getting more wood for a cheery fire going in the fireplace.

I'm a neuroscientist and have a small collection of stamps with brain related subjects. I recently noticed that Scott's lists a stamp from Singapore (# 231 issued as part of a set on June 29, 1975) with the subject of "brain surgery." The stamp isn't illustrated in Scott's.

Upon obtaining a copy, I got a surprise. There is no inscription on the stamp but the left side does show surgery. The right side, however., doesn't show a brain. It shows a kidney! A very diseased kidney, to be sure. Now the quality of the design of the stamp itself is really awful so I suppose that someone at Scott could have mistaken the kidney for a brain. But I wonder. So, I'm asking those on this board with catalogs other than Scott's to look this stamp up in those cartalogs and see how it is described. I'd like to know whether the kidney for brain error was made at Scott's or did this come from the Singapore postal authorities. In the later case, I'd expect this error to be in other catalogs as well.

Interestingly, even though the stamp shows a kidney, it still belongs in my collection. The kidney in question suffers from polycystic kidney disease. Patients with this disease often suffer from small ("berry") aneurysms on the arteries at the base of the brain. Their rupture can cause death.

Terry Hines

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-06-07 at 17:16:30 PST

NOIP------Hot tea and stamps great way to end a long day of working outside .Nice find of a double usage .These stamps look like they were used as revenue stamps ,then used again after a little work with a eraser. Stamps had a large x which was removed and then used again .....paul

Posted by lavart ( 1329

)

on Mar-06-07 at 17:09:26 PST

I agree. Package just arrived today at the office, but I won't be home til late tonite, as I teach my tax research (aka Brain Death) class tonite at Chapman Law School. Thought someone might be able to provide an answer without a scan.

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-06-07 at 17:01:39 PST

Hutch,

Hull is a port in Northern England and was a base for the Scandinavian fishing fleet and a lot of mail was handed in to the PO bearing Swedish & Norwegian stamps from the fishing boats. Usually they were cancelled with heavy duplexes and this is the 1st. one I have seen that got a nice cds. The other port that was regularly used was Grimsby which is scarcer than the Hull markings.

There is also a huge demand for nicely centered litely cancelled,

I was also surprised at the bidding and hopefully I will be more surprised by the time it closes,

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 16:57:35 PST

This must be one of the most requested images from my web site, and it's not mine.
It's from the Moubray book.

French numbers

The hair is mine!!!

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-06-07 at 16:32:43 PST

lavart… A picture is worth a thousand words…

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by lavart ( 1329

)

on Mar-06-07 at 16:22:39 PST

Question: I have an old postcard which I am attempting to date. The message text is in French, and the year is written as "187C", except the "C" has a small loop at the top, almost like a backwards "9", but with a smaller loop than one one expect for a "backwards 9". Anyone know what number this is?

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-06-07 at 16:09:57 PST

D2 - Whats so special about the Hull cds to bring that price? I just started to collect Sweden so I am on a learning mission.

Hutch

Posted by saipanislandboy ( 899

)

on Mar-06-07 at 16:08:35 PST

Iomoon: This annoying volcano just sent us a few days of haze. A visiting judge from Los Angeles said it made him feel right at home. It spoils our otherwise sunny skies and 77-degree weather. How do we make it stop?

Posted by stamphick! ( 336

) on Mar-06-07 at 15:46:07 PST

knuden...;Song was sung as a duet with Joel Grey who won an Academy Award for his performance.

Posted by dbenson ( 7950

)

on Mar-06-07 at 14:35:23 PST

postal & greenwave, may as well keep on reporting his misdemeanors, eventually someone might take notice of them,

pro, those items that you reported were not deleted, one of the BIN sold. I heard that there has been some a discussion between the APS, the SWC & Ebay, maybe they will start doing their work properly like they should have been doing,

David B.

Posted by greenwave4u ( 72

) on Mar-06-07 at 14:31:59 PST

Thanks Knud you summed it up perfectly!

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 14:23:32 PST

Here is a real Scott 108. Note the teardrop at top right to which the fuchsia arrow points. It is the stamp printed in litho with a 6 1/2 mm spacing.

This is Scott 107. Also in litho, with tear drop but 4 1/2mm spacing.

Here is Scott 104. Lacking teardrop because it is printed in recess but also has the 6 1/2mm spacing.

Scott 108 = $175, Scott 104 = $9.

Not quite there yet!!

Posted by knuden ( 2215

)

on Mar-06-07 at 13:59:02 PST

greenwave4u - Peter. With a little paraphrasefrom the movie Cabaret: "Money makes the Ebay go round!" it's why. :O)

Here is the original text song by Liza Minnelly:

"WILLKOMMEN

Willkommen, bienvenue, welcome, Fremde, etranger, stranger
Gluklich zu sehen, je suis enchante, Happy to see you, bleibe, reste, stay, wir sagen
Willkommen, bienvenue, welcome, In Cabaret, au Cabaret, to Cabaret

MARRIED

How the world can change, it can change like that, due to one little word - married
See a palace rise from a two room flat, due to one little word - married
Und das grau in grau, wird auf einmal blau, wie noch kein blau jemals war
For you wake one day, look around and say, somebody wonderful married me...

MONEY MONEY

Money-money-money, money-money-money, money-money-money
Money-money-money, money-money-money, money-money-money
Money-money, money-money

Money makes the world go around, the world go around
The world go around, money makes the [ ] go around
Of that we're really sure, [thrrr] on being poor

Money-money-money, money-money-money, money-money-money
Money-money-money, money-money, money-money, money-money
Money-money, money-money, money-money

When you haven't any coal in the stove and you freeze in the winter
And you curse to the wind at your fate
When you haven't any shoes on your feet, your coat's thin as paper
And you look thirty pounds underweight
When you go to get a word of advice from the fat little pastor
He will tell you to love evermore
But when hunger comes a rap, rat-a-tat, rat-a-tat at the window
See our love flies out the door

Money makes the world go around, the world go around the world
Money makes the world go around, the clinking clanking sound of
Money-money, money-money, money-money, money-money
Get a little, get a little, money-money, money-money
A mark, a yen, a buck, or a pound."

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by greenwave4u ( 72

) on Mar-06-07 at 13:30:54 PST

Knud For what its worth I keep reporting his type of listing as violation of links policy, always get a polite answer from Ebay but they never do anything. Not sure why they bother to make rules and policies etc as everyone ignores them.
Peter

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3453

)

on Mar-06-07 at 13:27:20 PST

JW about $30 less than before (?), and a 3-day sale too.

Guess his trip to Singapore or "wherever" was expensive, quick cash time. I reported the item again as a blatant fake but eBay could care less.

Posted by jcarlson15 ( 234

) on Mar-06-07 at 12:56:00 PST

iomoon,I just checked my other book and they have first day covers in it. I have a feeling that these books could very well be dust collectors!!

Posted by knuden ( 2215

)

on Mar-06-07 at 12:48:30 PST

Here is another of Johnno's BS!

The Zeppelin flights ended after the disaster May 6, 1937. (Source: Zeppelin Post Katalog - Sieger)
If it WAS a Zeppelin cover, the postage should only be 150 pf (0 - 50 gr.)
If it was a canceled flight, it would have a correspondent cancel on the cover.
What we have here is a second weightclass catapult air cover (Air fee 150 pf pr. 5 gr. + letter fee abroad 25 pf.).
It was sent via Bathurst, Gambia to South America as flight #355 June 16, 1939. The "Deutsche Luftpost - Europa - Südamerika" cancel was used on both catapultpost covers and Zeppelin covers and normaly Zeppelin covers bear another Zeppelin cancels stating which flight it was.(Source:Katapultpost-Katalog Südamerika - Haberer and Siegers catalog.)
As Johnno keeps quoting Wikipedia, he should have read it first! Here it written: "The LZ127 Graf Zeppelin completed more flights, though not for overseas commercial flights to the US" and "The career of Graf Zeppelin (LZ130) was not ended. It was assigned to the Luftwaffe and performed about 30 test flights prior to the start of World War II. Most of those test flights were carried out near the Polish border, first in the Sudetes mountains region of Silesia and later in the Baltic Sea region."
In my humble opinion it's a $10 cover, if not less due to its condition!!
Johnno writes: "The trip was scheduled to start on the 16 th June 1939 but cancelled as Hitler felt the Zeppelin too much of an easy and high profile traget for the British.Alies either on the trip to South America or Back." Hmmm. As far I know started WW2 first at September 1. 1939!
He states too: "It has a block of 3 1933 Grey on Orange Hinderburg Medaliion 100 pg (Michel 495 who puts a used value of 17 marks on each used) and 1932 Untra marine Hinderburg Medalion 25pf stamp". (Untra marine Hinderburg - what is that??) The 100 pf. stamp I'm sure is Michel 528 from 1934 (and not 495 from 1933) and this have a catalog value of 0.90 Euro (1.80 Mark).

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 12:35:13 PST

DC

Thanks, I hadn't seen it.

Posted by dcderoo ( 1654

) on Mar-06-07 at 12:29:30 PST

iomoon, have you seen the image of Io captured by the New Horizons spacecraft as it whizzed by a couple days ago?
Three volcanic plumes visible.
Here's the image if you haven't seen it, plus the caption:

"LORRI snapped this image of Io February 28, about 5 hours after New Horizons’ closest approach to Jupiter. A giant plume from the Tvashtar volcano reaches 180 miles (290 km) high in the 11 o’clock position. A 40-mile-high (60 km) plume erupts from Prometheus at the 9 o’clock position, and a third volcanic plume, from Masubi, catches the setting Sun on Io’s night side, near the image’s bottom." NASA/JHUAPL/SwRI

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-06-07 at 12:22:39 PST

I don't completely understand what gives with the Predator. I don't see evidence of NARU, just the one stamp lot ended, but the gold still going. (I presume they are suspicious, too.) And when I click on a previous link to the stamps, it simply shows it ending at an odd time, with zero bids! Before, there were some bids, and I recall checking aborted eBay lots in times past and being able to see the bid history, with each bidder withdrawn either by eBay or the seller, whoever ended it. So why do they now suppress this information? Has eBay now gone into history revision?

Hutch -- Yeah, I noticed those big perfs, too. Even with the abysmal blurry image, hard to miss. I always have to take pause at any seller trying to palm off stamps presumably worth thousands, but won't spring $45 for a decent scanner!

On that big lot, by the way, he said Ł60k FACE value, not catalog value! And what's with a great great grandfather, presumably implying they were collected half a century ago, when it's full of modern material? A more astute con man would have just said uncle.

I think one of the reasons eBay doesn't want a choice of fake or fraudulent material in their reporting gauntlet is that it would apply to about 90% of the Gucci bags and the like offered here. I understand the name designer fashion section makes the stamps corner, by comparison, look like the epitome of propriety. This is based on investigative reports on Dateline or 20/20.

nursesatan -- Ordinarily most FDCs, like jcarlson describes, are ''made for collector'' contrivances that cost much more in initial subscription prices than they will ever be worth, so you see programs knicking subscribers for $14.95 every three weeks for a pretty but basically worthless trinket, and a few years later at a stamp show table they go begging for buyers at 50˘ each. But there ARE a lot of very dedicated FDC collectors, it's just that the supply exceeds the demand. A bit different picture, though, when you get into the early stuff like your 1920's and '30's covers, which are less plentiful than those who want one. In both cases, however, I would recommend searching eBay finished auctions for similar material, ignore pricing of those with no bids, and see what prices they are actually bringing. Also note what type of presentation (individual lots, grouping together, etc) seems to be most successful. And don't scare away bidders with outrageous P&H charges, and provide clear scans! I'd also take care to get topical keywords into the description, so the guy looking for dogs or bells or bridges will hit it in a search. Just a little care and research will make a world of difference.

Bob in WA

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 12:21:10 PST

Not Scott 108.

I've wasted my time trying to email seller before.

Posted by rolyrj ( 3 ) on Mar-06-07 at 11:23:09 PST

billsey and others who may be interested:
I have added a few more pages to my New Zealand's Penny Universal site. I am getting into the more expensive examples now with the Bastad Mills papers.
Here are a couple of examples of perf variations for this paper.
Here are a few examples of very hard to get Re-entries.
and Here are examples of the deterioration of the original Plates. These examples are of Plate wear on the Cowan paper prior to the famous "4 o'clock" flaw.
I will make a page of Plate wear post "4 o'clock" flaw over the next few days.
Cheers
Roly

? New Zealand Penny Universal

Posted by cwhutch ( 640

)

on Mar-06-07 at 11:20:27 PST

That Ł PUC in my SG has perf 12 and the stamp in that picture has home made perf 6

Hutch

Posted by knackshack ( 1777

)

on Mar-06-07 at 11:14:16 PST

oh my has anyone reported this tomttat person to ebay that he is selling fakes?

Posted by jcarlson15 ( 234

) on Mar-06-07 at 11:13:00 PST

If it helps any it's from the Westport Collectors Society.

Posted by jcarlson15 ( 234

) on Mar-06-07 at 11:11:39 PST

What it says on the spine of one of my books is "The Philatelic HIstory of the United States 1565-1806." For an example the first page has an envelope with my name on it and postmarked 1977. It has on it St. Augustine Founded with a picture below it then it says st. Augustine, Florida August 28, 1565. Then it has a card with a description of the stamps on the inside. I was wanting to get rid of it because I really have no use for it. I was just wondering if it was worth it or not. Thanks

Posted by billsey ( 842

) on Mar-06-07 at 11:08:41 PST

jcarlson15, could you look at the binders and see who prepared them for you? There were (and still are) several services that do that, but unfortunately most will only be worth a small fraction of what you paid originally.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 10:57:54 PST

jcarlson

Do you mean US stamps on first day covers?

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 10:44:32 PST

His time would be better spent acquiring a dictionary and learning how to use it.
That is appalling English from an Englishman.

Posted by jcarlson15 ( 234

) on Mar-06-07 at 10:44:08 PST

I was wondering how some of you might list stamps that I recieved quite some time ago when I belonged to a club. It was one where they sent you a stamp a month that was already affixed to an envelope, however, I'm not sure if that makes the value depreciate that greatly for that or not. I was part of that club in the 70's and I have 3 large books of stamps and I wasn't sure if there was a market for them or not?? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks

Posted by dporter-stamps ( 456

)

on Mar-06-07 at 10:33:09 PST

here is an auction i challanged him on a while ago http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220084649396&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012

Posted by dporter-stamps ( 456

)

on Mar-06-07 at 10:31:13 PST

yes, i dont see where he can even remotly get a value of Ł60,000, the george & dragon & the 5/- seahourse are fakes he bought a while ago from gingerbooble.

So much for his 'GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHERS' collection !!!!!!!

David

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 10:23:59 PST

David

I wouldn't touch it.
The only value I see is in the mint stamps of the presentation packs.
The George and Dragon is a magazine cut-out.
Sellers I know have returned stamps to the seller as being misdescribed.

Posted by dporter-stamps ( 456

)

on Mar-06-07 at 09:54:45 PST

Hi, could someone give their opinion on this auction, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Beutifull-collection-of-GB-high-values-penny-black_W0QQitemZ220088712363QQihZ012QQcategoryZ3503QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem , check out what he bought from 'gingerbobble' i have been watching to see when he would include the copies he bought into his auctions.

looks dodgy to me.

David

Posted by oggilby ( 1192

)

on Mar-06-07 at 09:47:04 PST

Greetings from a clear but damn cold (28 F) Central Maryland, where I have spent most of the morning retrieving back porch items scattered by last night's strong winds. It's amazing to see heavy chairs blown across the porch.

jaywild--Glad you liked the covers!

nursesatan--Great name! Reminds me of Nurse Wratched of Cuckoo's Nest.

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-06-07 at 07:08:55 PST

NOIP… I see Johnno is trying his luck again with this “damaged by pee water” cover.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 06:57:57 PST

nursesatan

Unlike your covers, you will find that stamps are not well-illustrated by photographs, unless you have a very good digital camera that allows close-up shots. A flatbed scanner is much better.

Sort stamps by country, then go to local library and compare them with catalog to get approximate values.

Posted by nursesatan ( 1113

) on Mar-06-07 at 06:47:34 PST

I have a bunch of loose stamps too....I have no idea what to do with them lol...obviously they were not mine...the person who collected them passed away unexpectedly and now her widower wants me to sell them

Posted by nursesatan ( 1113

) on Mar-06-07 at 06:46:12 PST

Thanks Bill, I have a crud load of these things...some I have listed already but now I have a bunch more that I have to list...and what I have is first day covers then with the postmarked stamp....thanks again.

Posted by wrd3 ( 99

) on Mar-06-07 at 06:42:15 PST

nursesatan a cover is an envelope that has gone through the mails. It could have a stamp, or be stampless, or be sent with free franking. A front is just the front of a cover - ie, not a complete envelope, just the front. First Day Issue is a cover or stamp that has been cancelled on the first day a particular item was released by the Post office.

Bill D.

Posted by nursesatan ( 1113

) on Mar-06-07 at 06:33:33 PST

Good morning everyone....could someone please answer a quick question for me?

What is the difference between a First Day Issue and a Cover? Or is it the same thing?

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-06-07 at 06:32:54 PST

WRD
re:Barber
They must have been heavy into Adverts at that time I have seen over a hundred of those over the last couple of years. (They seem to have about 10 different versions)
I also have some Postals they used without pics from the 1880's or so.

Posted by jackstay79 ( 0 ) on Mar-06-07 at 06:21:42 PST

noip---Point of interest (maybe), Barber is a major nanufacturer of paving machines now. Paul most likely owns at least one.

Bill B.

Posted by wrd3 ( 99

) on Mar-06-07 at 06:12:00 PST

stamps12345 if anyone can compost a post I'd bet on you. : - ) I thought of you when I came across this lot showing 3 advertising postcards from 1911 from The Barber Asphalt Paving Company, including one showing "Largest single macadam contract ever awarded". Of course what drew my attention to the lot was the use of perfinned stamps.

Bill D.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-06-07 at 06:10:56 PST

Good day all.

Seems a french email is no longer necessary.

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-06-07 at 05:39:04 PST

NOIP… Gee, I heard a little birdie visited this seller yesterday…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 164

) on Mar-06-07 at 05:25:19 PST

Good morning all.
Looks like predator went to the land of NARU. Another one bits the dust. Lynn

Posted by stamps12345 ( 223

) on Mar-06-07 at 05:11:29 PST

DUNCAN D. Well written posting on 3-04-07 at 7:38 .Would of like to be able to write and compost a piece as well as that .But never really learn to write something that thoughtful and long until I got to college even then still fluken English ,before that it was mostly check-off the right answer in the small box....paul

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1258

)

on Mar-06-07 at 03:38:03 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s another China to Israel post card. The picture side shows the picking of oranges, a crop that grows in both countires. Address side.

back.

Jim L.

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-05-07 at 23:20:31 PST

Hey, Io, why don't you ask him for a scan of the back of one of those stamps, in French?

Bob in WA

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-05-07 at 23:09:35 PST

Curiouser and curiouser… The winner of this item, which was part of the offerings of predator6774, whose auctions I linked to earlier today, registered on eBay the same day he bid on the auction he won, March 3, 2007! What’s the odds of that happening???

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-05-07 at 22:41:04 PST

Lindy -- I did pick up one nudie postcard recently that the seller unnecessarily made a private auction. Perhaps that was what triggered it.

stampsz -- This board holds 200 posts, and every time a new one is posted, one old one scrolls off the bottom. It makes no difference how long they are. One word or three feet of paragraphs, is still one post. So we encourage combining comments into a single post when convenient, and try not to get into one-line ''chatter'' that is often seen on other chat boards. That said, we are all guilty of occasionally remembering something else we wanted to add just as we hit the ''save my message'' button, or seeing another new post that wasn't visible before our last refresh that we wish to respond to. And new posters are always most welcome and not expected to know all the conventions here when first posting.

You are right about those spoof messages. I've been getting them for years, also. I always first switch to ''show all headers'', then forward to spoof at ebay, and you're probably right about them not doing much. However, I figure if they get a really good chance to make a serious example of one of these rats someday, the more ammo they have in their files, the better. If it's just accumulating evidence for a hopeful big swat some day, I'm willing to take the time to contribute.

Bob in WA

Posted by mini*lindy ( 326

)

on Mar-05-07 at 22:13:45 PST

Bob Im not sure what triggers that Bidder 1, Bidder 2 feature. And, search by Bidder now only gives SOME item bid on, not necessarily all. As a test I searched YOU for the last 30 days..
this was the result.....
To protect bidder privacy, not all items that this member has bid on may be displayed.
For auction items, bold price means at least one bid has been received.
1 - 13 of 13 total
Of course, maybe you did only bid on 13 items in the last 30 days, I dont know.

Linda

Posted by rclwa ( 961

) on Mar-05-07 at 22:09:01 PST

Jaywild -- You'd think even the most naive collector would be stopped in his tracks by the 7˘ W-F that is about 8 times the area of the #2 next to it. (Not to mention the lowlife announcing his intentions with his ID name.) I find it interesting that eBay is assisting this obvious crook by converting many of his auctions to private ones with their infuriating Bidder 1 Bidder 2 nonsense! I still cannot figure out what triggers that--what criteria causes an auction to use that mode? What happens if you do a bidder search on the ID of one of those bidders? Does that auction show?

Bob in WA

Posted by stampsz ( 72

) on Mar-05-07 at 21:52:31 PST

You message telling me not to rectify my mistakes was longer and took up more space than my message was.But you are right so I apoligize for taking up too much space.

Posted by stampsz ( 72

) on Mar-05-07 at 21:50:58 PST

ANTONIUS-CA,
thank you for the welcome. I have been selling stamps since 1964. I have collected all stamps,but get tired of looking at them so I sell them. I have been getting spoof mail for several years. In fact I changed my ID and password to escape it, but it did not help. DO NOT click on any url in message. It is either or both a way to get your info or a virus or a spy bug. So beware and just delete it. I have notified Ebay for years ,but I still get them. I don't think Ebay really does anything about it.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Mar-05-07 at 21:38:02 PST

mich6270 Thank you for bringing that to our attention
but most all of us are aware of these things. If you are a collector please feel free to share and or pick the brains of the board.

stampsz Welcome also to the stamp board!
I would like to remind you as well as many others (since it has not been voiced for a long time). There is an unwritten rule (by consensus) that there is no need to correct your spelling errors with another post. We all make them and if they are obvious we can figure them out. The board only holds so many messages. If we all used up another post by correcting them then it would take up nearly half the board. We've had people on here for years that can't spell worth a hoot and couldn't really care (or even know if they did), they have never apologized (just passed blame on schools), so don't worry about it. How's that for a really screwed up sentence, I think the meaning came through though.
Of course if you really blow it bad, then you can simply report your post and do it over.
What is your area of collecting?

Posted by jaywild ( 927

)

on Mar-05-07 at 21:22:41 PST

Burton Smith… Wow—thanks for the great October 5 covers! They are quite nice.

I see the Montana quarters are already for sale on eBay, so as soon as I see one I will send it your way.

Thanks again!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 161

) on Mar-05-07 at 20:52:28 PST

dbenson
Thank you for all the extra information. I have saved your info as this subject has now piqued my curiousity.
Lynn

Posted by mich6270 ( 42

)

on Mar-05-07 at 20:34:08 PST

Hi everyone. I am letting all of you know that I received a fraudulant e-mail today that claimed my paypal account had an unauthorized usage issue pening and it prompted me several times to click on a link to forward to paypal. I immediatly manually typed the url address in and logged on to my account to find that there was no pending unauthorized usage issues. I notified paypal at spoof@paypal.com immediatly and verified through them that it indeed was a fraudulent e-mail. Please pass this info onto others, and if you receive any e-mails like the one I did, please report them to the web address I did by forwarding the e-mail to them. They will notify you right away if it's valid or not. Thanks!

Posted by oas-cny ( 1201

) on Mar-05-07 at 20:10:11 PST

If you look at the scans there are a lot of straight top perfs like scicor cut but the perfs are also round where true perfs are oval. I m not an experts but they just look too good.

Posted by stampsz ( 65

) on Mar-05-07 at 19:36:00 PST

that was examiner,sorry

Posted by stampsz ( 65

) on Mar-05-07 at 19:35:20 PST

OAS-CNY. The stamps look to good to be true. i checked only 2 andmy question is. Where is the APS exanimer to say they are reperfs?

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-05-07 at 19:05:12 PST

change the Has to Had
I am guessing that the seller bought those at S
sale and is now offering them on his own.

Posted by due2cents ( 26

) on Mar-05-07 at 19:02:21 PST

I would think that if Scott T has those listed they are just realy nice stamps.

Posted by oas-cny ( 1201

) on Mar-05-07 at 18:31:40 PST

Anyone see the new US listings by "shopesiw" - do I see about 100 grade 98 stamps or do I see a lot of repefs?

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-05-07 at 17:13:41 PST

Ed

Many thanks for the Japanese postal folder.
I really love the art of Hokusai.

Posted by stjohnstamps ( 841

)

on Mar-05-07 at 17:09:05 PST

okuma50 the Corning 3-line precancel has gotten more complicated, but not much more valuable in the latest, 7th edition, of the precancel catalog just published. There are now 3 varieties listed depending on how many millemeters between the closest lines. L-3 13mm 50-cents, L5 12.5mm 25-cents, L6 12mm 25-cents.

Posted by wrd3 ( 99

) on Mar-05-07 at 16:12:37 PST

okuma50 the standard catalog for United States Perfins is published by The Perfins Club. The most recent version is from 1998, with John Randall editor. Information is available here. There is no online place to identify perfins that I'm aware of. A big hinderance to having an online site is that some perfins are only very slightly different from other patterns. For those perfins you really have to have the stamp and the catalog in front of you, and figure out which pattern your stamp most closely matches. I posted about perfins in our recent A-Z activity - you can read what I wrote here.

While I collect Bureau precancels and not locals, your precancel appears to be pattern L3-TS, catalog value $0.10 in my (older) catalog.

Bill D.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-05-07 at 15:43:42 PST

Actually not bad prices.
With gold currently running at about $20 per gram, the BIN of $8,000 for a 800 gram bar looks pretty good. :-)

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-05-07 at 15:37:46 PST

Jim

As a geologist, I rather prefer the gold bars.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 323

)

on Mar-05-07 at 15:35:24 PST

not only ''fishy'' but, did you read his Delivery Terms...

Domestic Handling Time
Will usually ship within 20 business days of receiving cleared payment.

!!

L.

Posted by jaywild ( 926

)

on Mar-05-07 at 15:31:39 PST

The seller’s other lots are rather interestingly eclectic, yes-no? Funny that the images all seem to have come from different sources, true both for the stamps and the gold bars. You’d think there’d be some consistency if he actually owned the items he is “selling”.

Judging by the bidding on his stuff there seems to be no shortage of greedy people on earth…

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by jaywild ( 926

)

on Mar-05-07 at 15:18:45 PST

Hmmmm… I wonder if anyone else smells fish when they look at this lot…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by jaywild ( 926

)

on Mar-05-07 at 15:14:59 PST

okuma50… Wow, neat Chevy perfin!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers: | 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3˘ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
| Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24˘ Washington

Posted by bjornmu ( 892

) on Mar-05-07 at 15:07:07 PST

Understatement of the day. "Slightly clipped on upper-left corner", well this stamps is way more than "slightly clipped" in quite a bit more than the upper left corner....

Posted by okuma50 ( 254

)

on Mar-05-07 at 14:43:13 PST

Bill,
What catalog is available that will help me identify the Perfin designs? Or, is there an available source online? I appreciate your information on this.

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-05-07 at 14:42:39 PST

According to visual data by people of Podgorny village (Paramuchir Island), weak ash explosions from Chikurachki were observed on March 04. A continuous ash column has been observed at the volcano on March 05.
Observers from Vasil\'ev cap (Paramushir island) reported the height of the ash plumes to be up to 1500 m, presumably above the summit, or approximately 11,000 ft. above sea level.
No further information is known at this time.

This is below the flying height of commercial aircraft, which is a good thing since the KVERT (Kamchatkan Volcanic Eruption Response Team) currrently has no funding and can't respond to requests from aviation authorities.

Posted by wrd3 ( 99

) on Mar-05-07 at 14:37:22 PST

okuma50 the perfin is what you would expect, used by the auto manufacturer. It is identified as pattern Design 12 in the catalog, and is rated "D", which is fairly common (typical cost to purchase "D"-rated perfins is about 50 cents). For any more information I'll need to have my catalog handy ..... is there anything else you want to know about it?

Bill D.

Posted by okuma50 ( 254

)

on Mar-05-07 at 14:09:16 PST

Hi Folks, I have a couple of stamps that I'd like some more info on if anyone can help. I have a Scott 705 with the Chevy emblem perfin and a Scott 641 precancel with two sets of triple lines. I've never seen examples of either type perfin or precancel and I was wondering if someone could shed some light on them. I've added links to view each stamp. Thanks, John
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/Bama_bigjohn/ChevyPerfin.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o144/Bama_bigjohn/a47.jpg

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Mar-05-07 at 13:35:37 PST

Careful Io
Typical American "justice" these days,
is based more on rehabilitation then punishment.
Those giggling idiots will likely be required to enroll in classes.

Like, uhm,...you're talking, you know, about rocks...right?

Posted by 1covers ( 1294

)

on Mar-05-07 at 13:31:07 PST

I saw this advertised on APS chat site (VSC). Aren't those kind of blind "grab bag" lots prohibited on ebay?

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-05-07 at 12:48:43 PST

Bob in WA

I'd have thought they would have been a little more communicative. Something along the lines of

Whatever, you know, seriously!

Posted by rclwa ( 960

) on Mar-05-07 at 12:36:49 PST

Lynn and David -- I had always wondered about those NZ ''proofs'', too. I have a larger block (12 or more) that was in my father's accumulations, had determined it wasn't overly valuable but never knew just what it was.

Chuckle -- Current news is carrying the story of the ''Barbie Bank Bandits'', the giggling teen-age girls who tried to hold up a bank, seem not to understand the seriousness of their situation. Jay Leno reported they were arraigned, where they entered a plea of ''Whatever!''

Bob in WA

Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-05-07 at 12:14:45 PST

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????????? ??????.

Posted by dbenson ( 7933

)

on Mar-05-07 at 11:42:41 PST

19th.C,

found this article on the web, gives a lot more details as well as the Joliffe reprints,

Chalon Reprints: Hausberg and Jolliffe
In April 1906, reprints from the various plates of the Chalon Heads (full-face Queens) were made for LR Hausberg on white card. In 1913, further reprints on white paper were produced and included in the History of New Zealand Stamps.

Hausberg reprints

On a visit to New Zealand in 1906, LR Hausberg arranged for official reprints to be made of the Chalon heads. This was for the Royal Philatelic Society in London who were said to be planning a book on the Chalons. However, no book was ever produced.

1000 sheets were produced of the 2d plate II while six sheets each were produced of the other values. In August 1906, six sheets were produced of the 2d plate I. All were on white card. At the same time, the Government Printer printed 20 sheets from each plate on wove paper and these were kept by the Postal Department.

Hausberg reprints of the 2d plate II frequently appear in auctions, sometimes as complete sheets. Given the number produced (240,000), the asking price for singles is often rather high.

Jolliffe reprints

Further reprints from the 2d plate II were made by the Government Printer in 1913 for the History of New Zealand Stamps compiled for the Philatelic Society of New Zealand by William Jolliffe. (I do not know how many books were printed and therefore how many sheets produced.)

The printing is on white wove paper and each copy of the book includes the damaged and retouched part of the sheet (Rows 14 to 20). This is included as two separate blocks of 42 stamps, each cut from a complete sheet with the margins trimmed off and the blocks glued into the book along the top row.

As an example, the part sheet showing positions R14/1 to R20/6 is shown.

A couple of the stamps in R14 show no plate wear while virtually all the other stamps show extensive damage.

The Postage Stamps of New Zealand Vol 1, published by the Royal Philatelic Society of New Zealand in 1938 contains, as an insert, photographs of the two portions of the plate included in History of New Zealand Stamps. Although useful as a plating guide, much of the detail in the original is lost.

David B.

Posted by soggy333 ( 54

) on Mar-05-07 at 11:36:08 PST

That Hausberg character made an enormous number of those "proofs". I believe he was loaned the plate because he was sponsored by or vouched for by the Royal Philatelic Society of New Zealand.As a result no one else will ever be loaned the plates or dies. Maybe.

Posted by dbenson ( 7933

)

on Mar-05-07 at 11:36:02 PST

19th., I doubt the article in 1955 was by Mr. Hausberg, he would have also been posthumous by then. It was most probably about the reprints,

David B.

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 161

) on Mar-05-07 at 11:19:13 PST

Mr. Benson
Thank you very much for your valuation and the extra history lesson. The note accompaning this block mentions an article in the June '55 'Sanders Philatelic Journal'. I assume Mr. Hausberg to be the author. Now I am intrigued. Thank you again. Lynn

Posted by knuden ( 2214

)

on Mar-05-07 at 10:59:45 PST

?O??O??? ????O??? - Postal card.

Agricultural Exhibition in Moscau 1941:
Card 1.
Card 2.
Card 3.

War propaganda 1942:
Card 4.

May 1. 1944.
Card 5.

Fieldpost cards:
Card 6.
Card 7.
Card 8.

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by dbenson ( 7933

)

on Mar-05-07 at 10:43:44 PST

19th.C,

they are not Plate Proofs in the normal sense but posthumous prints, they were printed in 1906 for a collector of New Zealand who wanted them to study the retouches. They are known as the Hausberg reprints, named after the collector. They normally sell for a few dollars each but often sell for much higher to buyers who do not know the history of the items. They are on thick paper whilst the original proofs are on thin paper,

David B.

Posted by 220man ( 146

) on Mar-05-07 at 08:58:52 PST

cfrphoto: Thanks for the info. I am convinced that my stamp is genuine as it has the SLWM. Phil

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Mar-05-07 at 07:02:47 PST

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Posted by iomoon ( 1045

)

on Mar-05-07 at 06:51:47 PST

Good day all.

How about the P.T. Barnum award?

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 161

) on Mar-05-07 at 04:16:48 PST

Good Morning All!
Could someone familiar with New Zealand plate proofs give me an idea as to value? I cannot find anything similar online.
Thanks Lynn

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1253

)

on Mar-05-07 at 03:31:53 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Re: Feedback changes
I’m with Hutch on this one. I’d like to see improvements to eBay’s feedback system. Right now I feel it’s very restrictive, especially when there’s a minor problem.

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s another postcard sent from China to Israel. Address side.

Back.

Jim L.

Posted by cwhutch ( 637

)

on Mar-05-07 at 02:43:53 PST

Good morning.

Feedback 2.0 - I would like to see it on ebay.com . Anything would be an improvment.

Hutch

Posted by dbenson ( 7933

)

on Mar-05-07 at 02:25:30 PST

Linda, don't know, I am registered on Ebay.US as I joined when that was the only Ebay, the others came along afterwards and I doubt I will be included in the trial,

David B.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 323

)

on Mar-05-07 at 00:56:18 PST

David, I only had large parcels to post today.

Did you see this announcement??
how long will f/back take to leave with all this extra ''information''.... blahhhhhh

http://www2.ebay.com/aw/au/200703.shtml#2007-03-05172422

L.

Posted by dbenson ( 7933

)

on Mar-05-07 at 00:29:00 PST

Linda, my local PO didn't have any of the new $1.35 and said it was OK to use the old $1.25 up to the end of the month without any additions. He had the new $1.95 and I used them. I had 5 of the $1.85 and used some of those and some of his $1.95. It seems he is making up his own rules to use up his stock.

David B.