eBay chatboard archive: Feb-26-07 to Mar-04-07 week

Posted by cfrphoto   ( 1035 ) on Mar-04-07 at 22:45:16 PST   Listings
220man:

A 3¢ single line watermark perf 8½ coil cannot easily be faked because no 3¢ single line watermark stamps were issued and no sheet stamps were perf 8½. It is likely that the coil is genuine but with the possibility that one edge was trimmed later to balance the upper and lower margins. Careful examination of the edges with a 15 power glass and measuring from a 1600 DPI scan can determine if the imperf edges are truly parallel. The appearance of the imperf edges of a flat plate auto-wound coil (some perf 12 #388, perf 8½ and perf 10 flat plate) can be compared at high magnification an early rotary coil.

If the stamp does not have a clear single line watermark, then anything is possible. Here is another link to the image:

220man 3 cent coil
Posted by jaywild   ( 926 ) on Mar-04-07 at 22:04:31 PST   Listings
Thank you Lindy… ??????

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 926 ) on Mar-04-07 at 21:33:41 PST   Listings
D2… Well, eBay has made it impossible to report the type of fraud Johnny is committing. They have divided their reporting pages to a few middling complaints, that you cannot deviate from, so the hope of getting this jerk off eBay is a will o’ the wisp. So Lindy it is not possible to complain that Johnno is still a Powerseller while not meeting the criteria. More eBay bullsh*t!!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-04-07 at 20:35:30 PST   Listings
Oh dear!, Johnno's latest negative for 'damaged by sea water' (tap water more likely!), has taken his feeback to 97.4%..... and he needs 98% to retain his POWERSELLER status.. so sad, too bad!


Jim Not the Rowland Hill awards (they are already a real philatelic award), maybe the VICTORIA DOUBLE-CROSS AWARD !?

Linda
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-04-07 at 19:20:24 PST   Listings
Song for worldwide collectors

Here

" I've got one from spain and two from japan"
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-04-07 at 19:18:27 PST   Listings
Just got this not really that suprising but quite interesting. Takes a few bit(s) to download.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-04-07 at 18:58:22 PST   Listings
Io Those Darwin awards are a real kick. I need to remember to check it out better when I have the time. You're right ebay should provide an inexhaustible feeding ground. Right now I have the happy task of adding a few stamps to my Guatemalean collection.

oas-cny Greetings. Yes I do have one of those on my website, not to hard to find (bottom right corner of the page.
I do not know who told you not to ignore jaywilds comments, but I can guess. Jim is a good guy and is always happy to help anyone with a question (on early U.S.) that is proposed in a answerable manner.


Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1253 ) on Mar-04-07 at 18:33:33 PST   Listings
:8^(
My body is saying it's past time for bed, and the clock says I must stay up. I think it's time for the body to win.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1253 ) on Mar-04-07 at 18:32:11 PST   Listings
JimNice!. Arizona is not easy, but for Indiana there are at least six “Holy Grails” that are “One Only” copies to complete the Types for the state. The rarest Town does have very few (either 6 or ten), but it’s actually an institution, so….

FWIW, I understand that the Chinese & Japanese languages have character for both words and letters. So, I’ll post some of them as I’m not that familiar with the difference. There are two many irons in the fire for me to add learning that at this time.

In keeping with the "Non-Latin Alphabet" theme here’s

Here’s a post card mailed from China to Israel, two countries that rely on languages using “non-Latin” alphabets.
address side.

The Great Wall is depicted on the back.

Jim L.

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-04-07 at 18:24:03 PST   Listings
Thanks Bill D. I was composing my post when you made yours.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-04-07 at 18:22:29 PST   Listings
oas-cny… Yes, now I remember saying that you did not post the miscreants name to your discredit, a statement I stand by. Why would you call attention to a possible crook, then make it almost impossible to find him? Whatever your motives, they were hardly creditable.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3445 ) on Mar-04-07 at 18:22:06 PST   Listings
db - oh! Never noticed that there before. duhh . . . .
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 18:02:19 PST   Listings
Postal, on this page, just above RELOAD

If you would like to report a stamp listing you suspect is in violation of eBay policy, then please visit the bottom of the Selling Stamps help page, or
www.ebay.com/scw.

David B.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3445 ) on Mar-04-07 at 17:54:56 PST   Listings
db - report button above what??
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 17:51:57 PST   Listings
postal, it is easiest to report it by clicking the report button above then go to the bottom of the page and click " report ",

whether it does any good is another matter,

David B.

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-04-07 at 17:46:10 PST   Listings
David et al Well you know you gotta hand it to the guy. Where ever have you seen on ebay such a lenghty description on a particular item (that seems nearly irrelevant), I wonder if anyone ever would spend the hour reading it. Of course we all know Johhny is much to busy (as he always states) to spend much time responding to anything and often keeps his chat posts down to 1,000 words or less. Now if that is not pure B.S., then I have not been around the block enough times.

Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Mar-04-07 at 17:43:00 PST   Listings
oas-cny to satisfy your curiosity about jaywild's post, below is everything he posted alluding to you after your initial post.

Regards,
Bill D.


SCAM ALERT!!! The funny auctions alluded to here yesterday by oas-cny, although to his discredit he did not reveal the seller’s ID, have been found and yes, Virginia, they are scams. Here is one of his lots, but now look at this—same stamp. Further perusal of hsauctions stuff will reveal more amazing similarities.

Found them in an old album, eh? B*llsh*t.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3445 ) on Mar-04-07 at 17:40:05 PST   Listings

I reported Jono's as a counterfeit.

It was not easy.

eBay really has no clickie for FAKE OR FRAUDULENT ITEM

I ended up in the category COUNTERFEIT COUPON.

I don't think eBay really gives a shirt what vendors sell here. Evidence by the fact that after one clicks REPORT THIS ITEM, go through their limited selections, THEN they ask to enter the item number which means retracing one's steps unless prepared for that detour.

caveat emptor y'all

Jeff

Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 17:25:37 PST   Listings
D2

I think there ought to be an equivalent of Darwin Awards for stamp sellers.
Maybe we could call them Rowland Hill awards.
I'd be happy to host possible recipients on my web site.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 17:06:17 PST   Listings
IO,

The buyer of the Missent to Nazi Occupied Gibraltar card has eventually left him a Negative, I like Johnny's reply,

On close inspection the water damage is fabricated, cover is fraudulent, beware

Reply by jonathandean8: Ebay purchase originally, examined by leading dealer,different opinion expressed

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 16:58:48 PST   Listings
D2

Amazing how only the "Damaged by sea water" cancels get smudged by seawater after they have been presumably removed from seawater. The address remains intact.

This seller is a total moron.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 16:47:03 PST   Listings
Io,

I think Johnny is playing funny games with his junior handstamp kit again,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150097859149&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BID_IT&refitem=150079885681&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

David B.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-04-07 at 16:40:07 PST   Listings
OAS-CNY-
If I rememeber correctly, You were unable to (afeared)
share the sellers ID jsut some cryptic decription
of the stamps in questions. It was Others who did the work and exposed the items and the seller .
So I do not (IMHO) think you deserve any accolades for
your Outing of anything. When in fact many others took the Ball and ran with it.
Maybe you were the waterboy.
The others who did the work were and are the Team.
again just MHO.
You exposed only a description which did not even lead directly to the items in question. I remember 5 or six folks who tried and finally found those items using
many different type of searches.
So don't hurt Urself while patting your own back.
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Mar-04-07 at 16:31:23 PST   Listings
Evening/morning/afternoon from a soon-to-be frigid NJ. The ongoing story of the scarlet-handed pimp has made for intesesting reading. His take on the pitfalls of selling a collection is masterful in the way it plays on every paranoic fear felt by collectors and their heirs.

Bill: Good luck on getting this guy. As you can tell, he's been a topic of discussion before on this board and others.

Anne in NJ
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 16:04:23 PST   Listings
Jim & Steve

Nothing to become acrimonious about.
Steve stated that he suspected a seller of stealing images without naming the person.
Jim berated Steve for not naming the person.

No problem.
The person was nabbed and foiled.
Kudos to both of you and all the others involved.
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-04-07 at 15:12:45 PST   Listings
oas-cny… I’m afraid I am completely in the dark about what you are saying. As I recall, upon a question you posted I contacted one of my sources who looked up possible connections between known scammers and medvid1978. Don’t recall saying anything particular about you, nor can I imagine a reason for doing so.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Mar-04-07 at 15:12:33 PST   Listings
Alec -- Many thanks for the A-Z suggestion. It was really fun and I hope we do it again in the future, after I have found a few things I couldn't lay my hands on quickly. I do have many items in mind for many letters that are currently buried. Yesterday I spent a bit of time, without success, trying to find a cover perfect for ZIP CODE. About a year ago I ran across a cover in old family correspondence that gave pause. It was a letter from my sister in Hawaii, with the ZIP code tacked on with a different pen than the address. I checked and discovered the postmark date was ONE WEEK BEFORE the official launch date (July 1, 1963) of the ZIP code program! I'd be hard pressed to find an earlier cover using a ZIP code! There was no reason for anyone to have penned it on after it was received, so either my sister or a postal worker became aware of the correct number in the new (upcoming) program and appended it. My sis had no memory of it, of course, after more than 40 years.

Anyway, that cover will surface one of these days and I'll post it here.

Bob in WA
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 15:03:09 PST   Listings
Peter

Those references are hilarious.

I thought of putting a few on my web site.
Starting with this one from my old friend Ronny.

It's the old jail. (it became too inhumane for prisoners, so now houses the Sheriff's department).
Posted by oas-cny   ( 1198 ) on Mar-04-07 at 15:00:10 PST   Listings
Hey Jay - what did you say about me when I broke the scam medvid1978 or whomever stole his ID was trying?

Heard it though the grapvine that I was to ignore your comments --- just curious what you had to say!

I'm a rookie so take it easy on me but what a pottery dealer starts selling rare stamps for $50 each requiring Paypal payments in 3 days then even I could smell a fraud.

Posted by oas-cny   ( 1198 ) on Mar-04-07 at 14:54:48 PST   Listings
I'm fighting a losing battle over the 209b. So many misrepresent this issue it ridiculous. A $3.00 stamp being sold for hundreds.

So many dark browns are called 209b -- the real color is black brown --- see 130021336695 -- you can clearly see this stamp is black brown.

It's like the 518 violet brown and 518b deep brown -- once you have seen one you know the difference.

Anyone know where a defitive pictice of a 209b black brown is let me know! I question ever a couple of the certified ones being sold --- I was at Mystic Stamp and they had dozens of the black browns -- clearly black then a touch of brown!

thanks

OAS-CNY or scheidel@scheidelco.com

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-04-07 at 14:13:04 PST   Listings
Linda & Bjorn Thanx
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-04-07 at 14:10:49 PST   Listings
NOIP… Just got this image from a fellow who deals in precancels. (The contrast has been greatly exaggerated so it can be read.) It’s the Holy Grail of Arizona precancels—Jokake—even crummy copies of which command several hundred dollars.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3445 ) on Mar-04-07 at 14:03:33 PST   Listings

Mike the Pimp has a phone number listed on his ME page. Has he been phoned? I have not been keeping up this weekend.

eBay used to have escrow payment services available. I never used it. Does it still exist?

Jeff

Posted by chaswilly   ( 1603 ) on Mar-04-07 at 13:30:10 PST   Listings
dbenson, David, yes disappointed, but he's the expert. I really couldn't find a matching circumference in any of my hundreds of examples, so I kinda figured it to be bad. Have 2 other items he declared fake and/or forged that I will be listing in the future.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-04-07 at 13:27:20 PST   Listings
ant-ra, isn't the buyer's email address included in the end-of-auction email you get? I know the seller's is in the email I get as a buyer.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-04-07 at 13:26:29 PST   Listings
Mitch, their email address is in the end of auction email sent to you by ebay.
Linda
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-04-07 at 13:21:28 PST   Listings
Anybody know how to get a buyers email address these days?. It use to be on your ebay summary page, now nothing. I went as far as to request contact information and got everything but an email address (although it looks like they sent him mine). This person is trying to back out of a "buy it now" and I was trying to send them an email stating my thoughts. The email is to long for the box ebay has for contacting members. I don't know how to condense it farther and still make myself perfectly clear.
As if dealing with this stuff was not a large pain before Ebay has figured out a way to make it even more nerve racking.
Plz any thoughts?
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 13:13:39 PST   Listings
Charles, I bet you were really disappointed when the LV came back from the expertiser, it looks so good. I seem to remember you mentioning the acquisition on Richard's board a few years ago,

David B.
Posted by knuden   ( 2214 ) on Mar-04-07 at 13:00:00 PST   Listings
peetah - I know I'm a bit late but in my Michel Ganzsachen-Katalog Europa West from 2000/01 your British Empire Exhibition Postal envelope has cat. # U29 and have a catalog value of €20 ($26). :O)

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1603 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:59:56 PST   Listings
dbenson

David, thanks for the tip on the Morocco - I'll try and get it changed. As for the restaurant, my wife and decided that we didn't want to be in the business any more. I am 60, she's 59 and it took a lot out of both of us. Sold the trucking company in Jan. 2004, we really didn't need it to eat, more of a playhouse than anything. Now it's time to be retired and get back to stamps.

Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:55:09 PST   Listings
Charles, they are listed in Gibbons as Postal Fiscals, it is F14 although a fake cancel on a fiscal stamp still makes it a fiscal and not a postal fiscal although it may need a legal opinion to decide.

I remember when you mentioned that you were remodelling the restaurant (for your daughter from memory), what made you decide to sell (and why place on Ebay)

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:52:00 PST   Listings
Charles, I would lave it in Brit. Commonwealth but change the description to make it eye catching.

title

MOROCCO AGENCIES, 1901 KEVII 3p. on 2s.6 Purple, Mazagan.

description,

MOROCCO AGENCIES, SPANISH CURRENCY, 1901 3p. on 2s.6 Dull Purple canc. Mazagan.

There is no need for any catalogue numbers as the main collectors of those are in GB & Germany.

The Romania was easy to see as the top left 2 touches the frame. That site is one of the best on the web for any country to discern forgeries,

The LV should still have either Lombardy Venetia or better still Austria Italy in the title then searches may pick it up,

David B.
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1603 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:50:14 PST   Listings
dbenson Actually, there is no catalog # for the LV. It's just a fiscal postally used. At least not in Fercehenbauer anyway, maybe in some specialized fiscal catalog.
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1603 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:47:17 PST   Listings
ant-ra There is still a flat fee for listing real estate. It's for sale, if you're interested. The reason ebay has me in Germany is that I am a registered seller on ebay.de and that's the box they put me in.
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1603 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:43:50 PST   Listings
dbenson

David, thanks for the heads-up on the Romania. I will delist it. The LV is in Italy and area so think it's OK. Where would you put the Morroco, if not in British Commonwealth?

Posted by sayasan   ( 632 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:36:52 PST   Listings
wmralph

Duncan may be referring to this rant, which I posted earlier:

"jmav@earthlink.net (Michael DuBasso) EBAY IS NO LONGER A VIABLE AUCTION HOUSE! For over a century the excitement and interest in auction firms was built on sales based on "what you see is what you get." Every product was sold on an "AS IS BASIS." That is no longer Ebays policy. The vendor must now under Ebays new terms and conditions fully warantee anything sold on their site. The buyer may return anything they want by simply stating "It's not as described." The buyer after examing the item can find a tiny flaw or even create a tiny flaw and return the item for a full refgund. This is all great for the buyer but the vendor has no recourse! EBAY IS NOTHING OTHER THAN A RETAIL STORE."

I found that when I googled your seller's name. It's on a site www.auctionwire.info, which is now suspended, so you would need to click on the cached pages link in the Google result, where it is archived. But I'll try and link to it here. You might need to "control F" the name DuBasso to find it among all the verbiage.

Good luck.

Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:34:45 PST   Listings
Chaswilly, the Lombardy fake cancel is a nice item and possibly an Italian colector may desire it but you have listed it without stating the country, only the catalogue number. If I was you I would reword the description (and while your at it the Morocco as well),

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:32:20 PST   Listings
Chaswilly,

I suggest that you add this to your list of favorites,

http://www.romaniastamps.com/forg/forgeframe.htm

then you can add the Romania 2pa. Cuza to your list of forgeries.

I noticed that you listed the Romania with a description which will make it easy to identify for those who do not use Scott's but you listed the Morocco Agencies with a Scott's number which makes it difficult. It will easily sell if you listed it with a proper description as it is a very scarce stamp with a rare cancel.

I also noticed that the forged stamps are not marked on the reverse as per Ebay's rulings, there has been some discussion lately,

David B.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:28:18 PST   Listings
chaswilly Is the restaurant a forgery? Seems odd you are listed as being in Germany and the restaurant is in
Joplin Mo. Is there still a flat out listing fee for real estate, if not seems like A $1,700,000 reerve would be kinda pricey. I know you area long time poster and I have no doubt of your integrity but it seemed curious to me <:~`)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-04-07 at 12:17:29 PST   Listings
Bill H. As I suggested last night (and also Bjorn)
I saved all the images to disk from that auction just in case you did not know how to do it, or the seller erased them before you got around to it. If you happen to need them (at any time)I can email them to you. You should also make scans of the pages you recieved.
Mitchell
Posted by chaswilly   ( 1603 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:52:51 PST   Listings
I just listed a couple of forged goodies, if anyone's interested.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3391 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:37:42 PST   Listings
Swiss Hotel markings,

Baur au Lac - Flag receiving marking?

I was wondering if anyone familiar with Swiss hotel markings (Roger?) can tell me specifically what I have. I know Baur au Lac is a fancy hotel in Zurich. This is a purple date stamp, 25 Mar 1906. Card is posted Zurich to Berlin. Back of card depicts Zurich Polytechnikum.

T I A,

Matt in Arizona
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 72 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:37:34 PST   Listings
wmralph The link you want is here on his own website:-
http://www.americanphilatelic.com/auctionpitfalls.html


The reference list makes fun reading!
Peter
Posted by knackshack   ( 1775 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:26:24 PST   Listings
hello just thought i would stop by and say Hi...:)
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:23:34 PST   Listings
Vinny, that's a good question.

Ebay does have a Fakes & Reproductions category but it is not mandatory that all fakes are listed there.

The original arrangement between the APS & Ebay was rushed through without any discussion with Ebay users and was organised by a small group from the APS. At that time the manager of Stamps Ebay.US had virtually no philatelic knowledge (I think he had collected US fdc's when he was a youth) and relied on suggestions from the APS subcommittee who at that time could only see a huge increase in applications for certificates as the motive for getting involved with Ebay. The British Manager of Ebay.Stamps had a better philatelic background and realised that by making a compromise and allowing forgeries to be only listed in the forgery category was doing more for philately.

For an individual to mark stamps on the back in any way just for the privilege of being allowed to be sold on Ebay.US is one of the worst decisions that has ever been made in philately. It has most probably caused more genuine stamps to be ruined and forged stamps to be virtually uncollectible,


David B.
Posted by peetah   ( 466 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:15:48 PST   Listings
I feel a little bit like I am going from pillar to post. LOL I'll hold onto the cover and list it with a used 432 or 433 I know I have lurking somewhere. Thank you both for the input!
Posted by peetah   ( 466 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:10:13 PST   Listings
Or swipe it from another poster? LOL £ Never cared much more covers myself for that very reason.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 360 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:09:22 PST   Listings
dbenson: thanks for the response. i think marking the stamp with a sharpie ruined the provisional fake completely. its got a few bids so at least it will be gone. why doesn't the U.S. ebay have a fakes and forgeries section like ebay U.K.? they definitly have enough forgeries listed to justify having such a section
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:06:38 PST   Listings
IO, they were starting prices at Auctions, I don't know the realisations.

Peetah, you may as well list it, you have already scanned it,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:04:02 PST   Listings
peetah

I don't know if D2's values are for suggested value or selling price.
The 1925 Exhibition are not common.
Conversely, people are more retiscent about collecting stationery since it is so bulky.

Easiest way to posting pound symbol is to google "pound sign " and cut and paste it.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Mar-04-07 at 11:02:16 PST   Listings
Here are two more ????????? Gryazovets and ?????? Irbit
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Mar-04-07 at 10:44:09 PST   Listings
other alpabet ???????? which is Krapivna which got me interested in Russin Zemstvo. Greetings Rainer 22028
Posted by peetah   ( 466 ) on Mar-04-07 at 10:39:56 PST   Listings
now why won't that code for Pounds take
Posted by peetah   ( 466 ) on Mar-04-07 at 10:38:54 PST   Listings
Grrrrr! &#163; 55 = &#163; 22 Thanx dbenson not worth listing I guess.
Posted by peetah   ( 466 ) on Mar-04-07 at 10:36:05 PST   Listings
iomoon 4 shilling/10shillings = 40% so a guess of 40% of &#163;55 = &#163;22 = $42.75 (2001) would not seem unreasonable. I wonder what the SG 2007 is for GB 433. Tried their online site, but I just keep spinning my wheels. I'll try it again later. But, even at $42.75 it seems worth listing.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-04-07 at 10:34:19 PST   Listings
Peetah,

I found these up for sale at different local auctions in GB,

1925 H&GB25 (Huggins EP87) Empire Exhibition 1½d brown on cream unused envelope. £5.00

Great Britain EP67 KGV 1.5d brown 1925 Empire Exhibition envelope Mint £5.00

David B.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 10:04:21 PST   Listings
peetah

For comparison, the stamp in mint condition was valued at 10 shillings in 1951. The stamp in mint condition was valued at £55 in my 2001 catalog.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 09:55:57 PST   Listings
peetah

It is EP48 in Robson Lowe's Encyclopedia of British Empire Postage Stamps, Great Britain and the Empire in Europe.
It was valued at 4 shillings in mint condition in 1951, for what its worth.
Posted by peetah   ( 466 ) on Mar-04-07 at 09:30:51 PST   Listings

Thanx, iomoon Picture = 1000 words, so here is a picture of my
GB SG#433 envelope.
Any Great Britain collector able to value this?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 09:26:02 PST   Listings
peetah

SG 433 is the 1 1/2d brown 1925 British Empire Exhibition.
SG does not list stationery.
Posted by wmralph   ( 5 ) on Mar-04-07 at 09:24:54 PST   Listings
Re the $15,000 SCAM

To Duncan C.

Your comments have been most helpful & well written. Please, can you give me a link to the auction site with the seller's "rant about eBay's selling rules" ?
Certainly, theft by fraud is a federal crime, and I will assist any investigation by authorities. One in Baltimore is already familiar...

Of interest, Conrad Black, a once-Canadian, is charged with
mail fraud, wire fraud & etc. & the Chicago trial is big news here in cold Canada.

Sincere thanks Duncan for your helpful discussion
Bill H.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Mar-04-07 at 09:23:53 PST   Listings
A-Z My thanks go to everyone who participated in the ABC show these past 26 weeks. It was a far greater success than I ever imagined it would be. The vast array of material shown was simply astounding. What was especially pleasing to me was to see so many new faces taking part. The main thing was so much fun was had and many really dug deep and used their imagination to find things to post.
I don't know if it is a hassle asking someone to judge the weekly showings for the current and future themes as that does place some in an awkward spot especialy if they are not online all the time and miss a few days of posts.
Personally I'd be quite happy for ones to simply show whatever they can come up with relevant to the weekly topic with no judging being made by anyone.
Posts do not need to have a detailed explanation unless the poster wishes to do so.
Help is available for anyone else wishing to take part who does not know how. Please do not be scared to ask either openly here or mail me privately via ebay.
No one will ridicule any material shown so have no fear of that happening. The common material is just as welcome to be shown as anything unique or rare.
You don't have to own the material shown but if it is a copied image then please do say so. Having fun is the aim of the game.

Bill H Until you have sought expert legal advice and help I would not make any statements openly here of your intentions or what action is being taken against that seller. However please do let us know the final outcome. Needless to say we do feel sorry for your loss and sadly it is something that happens all to often.
I know it is hard to take in that you have been scammed and it is easy to feel foolish in that you were taken in. Many would not admit to such a thing out of sheer embaressment but I take my hat off to you for having the courage to admit you made a big mistake. Fingers crossed you do get your money back. What the chances are of that I honestly don't know, but good luck in your endevours.
Such scammers are the scum of the earth and should be shot on sight !
Posted by peetah   ( 466 ) on Mar-04-07 at 09:20:46 PST   Listings
iomoon Just wanting to make sure we are talking about the same thing. By stamped envelope I meant as in postal stationary.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 09:10:40 PST   Listings
peetah

It went on sale May 6th 1925 and had sold out by October 30th of same year.
SG values it (in my old catalog) at £65 on cover.
Posted by peetah   ( 466 ) on Mar-04-07 at 09:01:03 PST   Listings
Any Great Britain collector. I have a GB SG# 433 stamped envelope (about 12 mm x 9.5mm) that has been kicking around here for some time. Any value to this item?
Posted by wmralph   ( 5 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:55:36 PST   Listings
Good morning members re THE $15,000 SCAM

I have looked at the US Criminal Code & find it most useful in this impending case. Sections apparently contravened by the seller of Item # 220073134492 Mr. M. DuBasso are:

Title 18 Section 1341 Frauds & Swindles [mail fraud]: "Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, ... or to sell, ... any counterfeit"

Of particular interest to US collectors as the four $2 to $5 Columbian MNHOG 'reprints' in the $15,000 swindle Item # 220073134492 link to
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220073134492&rd=1&rd=1
These are counterfeit copies of stamps that are still valid for US postage (!). Apply this law:

Title 18 501 Postage stamps, postage meter stamps, and postal cards:
"2nd Para ...Whoever makes or prints, or knowingly uses or sells... Whoever after such postage stamp, postage meter stamp, stamped envelope, or postal card has been printed, with intent to defraud, delivers the same to any person ... imprisoned not more than 5 years.."

Title 18 1343 Fraud by wire, radio, or television:
"Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses... transmits...30 years". Includes any Ebay / Net transactions.

Above from Cornell Law School http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001343----000-.html

All is going very well with my investigations - I will post actions in the near future for the benefit of all. In the code there is even a section on fradulent foreign stamps Title 25 Chapter 25 Section 502.

For those following comments since yesterdy's original posting, it will not be posssible for me to "bare all" the costs of a possible USPS Inspection Service investigation in this possible felony offense.

Bill H. in Canada
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:55:12 PST   Listings
Choose not chose.

STÖÐVARFJARÐAR
Posted by deh3   ( 1426 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:53:24 PST   Listings
Not exactly part of an alphabet (Chinese characters do not constitute an alphabet), but here
are two examples of a bilingual AR handstamp, the Chinese characters meaning (I'm told) double registered. The same term is used in Greek Cyprus (I'm told), diplosystemeni (I won't attempt to put it in Greek letters), to mean the same thing.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:46:12 PST   Listings
ÐÐÐÐÐÐ

I finally figured it out.
Go to control panel.
Click 'date, time, language,regional option´
Click ´regional and language options
Click language.
Click details.
Click on add.
Chose desired language
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:39:11 PST   Listings
deh3, no I didn't forget it but that letter doesn't come at the end, it's between D and E. It doesn't appear to be used at the start of words, but I did show one that contains two, namely HERÐUBREIÐ
Posted by taodave   ( 137 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:37:55 PST   Listings
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Not true--- the Z's were very exciting to judge! And there were so many of them!!

I savoured every one of the entries. Being of a postal history bent, I was very impressed early on by lavart's Zurück entry, but then knuden posted a fascinating group of his own Zurücks. I thought knuden really had the contest sewn up when he later posted a group of wonderful Sudetenland Zepps. But then, late in the contest, lavart upped a second group of great Zurücks, this time from the German Colonies, which he knows are a special weakness of mine (although I was just a tiny bit disappointed that he didn't include one from DOA).

Lavar, you may not have won your race against Arnold S for Governor of California, but you HAVE won the eBay chatboard Z contest. I hope you enjoy judging this week's non-Latin alphabet entries, which I note have already started to pour in.

taodave

Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:32:00 PST   Listings

? is for
?????? (rossiya)
Posted by deh3   ( 1426 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:26:10 PST   Listings
Bjornmu: You forgot the eth (I haven't figured out how to put it here), also known as thodh, with a hard th sound (as opposed to the soft th sound of the thorn). A capital eth (D with a short horizontal stroke through it) appears on one of the Icelandic stamps you showed. I believe both eth and thorn were used in English until about the fifteenth or sixteenth century.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1293 ) on Mar-04-07 at 08:11:22 PST   Listings
Sometimes an attorney may have previously handled cases against a party which may give them an advantage in securing a fast settlement.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 07:55:11 PST   Listings
Well last night, apart from the eclipse, we broke the record minimum for the day at 9.5F.

Duncan

The aggressiveness of the RCMP in the case of Madison61 may have been because he was a Canadian citizen.
Posted by duncan_doenitz   ( 113 ) on Mar-04-07 at 07:38:36 PST   Listings
To wmralph,

EBay's rules for selling stamps are clear - they DO NOT allow "As Is" sales of stamps regarding authenticity. That type of sale is sucker bait, meant to lure those who want to believe that known fakes might actually be genuine items.

Under eBay's Help > Policies > Listing Policies for Sellers > Selling Stamps they state "Do not sell an item 'As Is' regarding authenticity." Period. They do allow "As Is" sales in bulk lots regarding condition, but do require full disclosure of condition issues.

EBay also states that stamp sellers can be disciplined for failure to follow the APS Code of Ethics, which also reiterates the same position on "As Is" sales.

Bad sellers may try to ignore their obligations when posting questionable items on eBay, but obviously their attemts cannot be allowed to circumvent the rules of eBay or chaos would result. Um... greater chaos would result.

Anyway your seller clearly knows the rules as he stated at another online site in his rant about eBay's selling rules so he can't deny knowing that he has violated those rules.

His claim to 45 years of experience helping clients build valuable collections, and his ads offering to appraise and sell collections don't portray someone who can't tell genuine stamps from fakes. He can't have it both ways.

Intentionally offering stamps known to be fakes as "As Is" items, as possibly genuine but priced as (non existent) reprints or as possible replicas, puts the seller on really shaky ground especially if he claims to be a professional in the field. And further he has no excuse at all when the items are being sold a second time, after the first auction at $15,000 fell through.

Theft by fraud is a crime, and his actions both before and after the sale demonstrate his intent - he intends to stiff you with a heavily salted collection that he know is bad. A genuine appraisal of the sold items, or the difference between the value of genuine items vs fakes, might determine whether it's a felony effense.

The advice to seek help from Canadian authorities sounds like a good idea, because they have been aggressive in the past.

I'm just saying...

-Dunc
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-04-07 at 07:35:03 PST   Listings
Good day all.

I can't figure out how to change my keyboard.
But here is Armenia in Armenian.
The letters ho, ayp, hee, ayp, men, diun, ayp, nu.
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-04-07 at 07:01:24 PST   Listings
I dôñt ha?? anythi? to show ?òr ???š week…
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-04-07 at 06:49:16 PST   Listings
bjorn… Nice find!!!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-04-07 at 05:31:55 PST   Listings
I have now extended the time range of my collection back to 1801! The previous oldest were 1812 (rather unclear) and 1833.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-04-07 at 04:46:58 PST   Listings
.....is for a feeble attempt to keep up with a posting a week.
2006 cover from Karuzawa Nagano Japan with various Japanese stamps, and AIRMAIL in Japanese and English.

Linda
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Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-04-07 at 03:52:18 PST   Listings
oh wow! Bjorn, thank you! that was fun reading
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-04-07 at 03:47:25 PST   Listings
I hope you could all read those letters. :-)
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1253 ) on Mar-04-07 at 03:43:29 PST   Listings
Don't know what I did with that post. I'll report it.
I had tried to acknowledge that I'd noticed the "Hong Kong" on the stamps after I posted the cover. :8^(

Jim L.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-04-07 at 03:43:16 PST   Listings
Last alphabet letters:

Danish/Norwegian: Å is for Ålesund, a cover I just bought elsewhere which has the bonus of being sent to Åland.

Swedish: Ö is for Östersund, a town roughly in the middle os Sweden.

Icelandic: Ö is for Örn (Eagle).
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-04-07 at 03:41:50 PST   Listings
Next letters in the alphabets:

Danish/Norwegian: Ø is for Ørn (Eagle).

Swedish: Ä is for Älg (Elk/Moose). Coil and booklet versions.

Icelandic: Æ is for Æskunna (I think) which would mean "Youth", this is for the International Youth Year, and I'm pretty sure the word "Alþjóðlegt" must be the one that means international.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-04-07 at 03:39:35 PST   Listings
OK, here are my "beyond Z" contributions. First entry:

Danish/Norwegian: Æ is for Ærøskøbing where this house is from.

Swedish: Å is for Åland, a group of islands that belong to Finland but is 100% Swedish speaking. BTW, the leftmost stamp could also double as Æ for Ærfugl, which is the Norwegian name of that bird. In fact, I think a dialect word for the female is just Æ.

Icelandic: Þ (thorn) is of course for Þrir, which means "three", a well-known and rare overprint from November 1897, here I have borrowed a picture of a pair with combined small and large overprint, from a current auction with an opening bid of $1500.

But it's also for Þjónusta, meaning "service" or official stamps, here the 1902 and 1907 sets complete.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1253 ) on Mar-04-07 at 03:36:24 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


malolo & David B.
Thanks for sorting out the cancel, I’d simply mounted it in my World Wide used albums. Now I’ve made a note beside it. Someday, hopefully, I’ll re-do the page.


22028
Non Latin Alphabets could include, but are not limited to: Greek letters; Hebrew; Chinese, Japanese, or Korean and many of the Indian dialects; as well as Cyrillic – Bulgaria, USSR, etc.
As for myself, I’d count the German letters with vowel markings as Latin based. But I doubt that we’ll be that picky about what people post. As for me, I’ll try and limit myself to stamps that lack Latin letters. That does restrict me a bit, but that’s part of the challenge.


In keeping with the "Non-Latin letters" theme here’s a registered cover that brought me a lot from Hong Kong, after transfer back to the Chinese.

The front.

The back.

Jim L.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-04-07 at 01:32:51 PST   Listings
Bill H, if you need to prove what the description and terms looked like, it may be possible (at least technically) to get that confirmed by eBay, so pimp can't claim that you have made it up. But you may have to act fast to get that information before it's lost.

Whether eBay will do so is another matter...

Perhaps you should also get some third party to save the images so that you can discover if he tampers with them (hopefully, he hasn't already done so).
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 22:47:49 PST   Listings
Emerald, the genuine local handstamped overprint on the Mult. CA 30pa. is 14.25mm x 2.5mm. The overprint on Crown CA is 14.5mm. x 2.5mm.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 22:42:01 PST   Listings
Roger,

sorry, no Notting Hill PO in Natal, there is a Nottingham & a Nottingham Road although close enough is not good enough,

At that time there was a lot of British tourists in Zululand & Northern Natal, all in army uniform, seeing that the cancel is Notting Hill I would presume it was one of them that took the mint stamps back to London and got them cancelled at his local PO.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 22:15:42 PST   Listings
Emerald, The 30pa. Specimen on Multiple Crown watermark was from prersentation sets and is very scarce. The normal specimen 30pa. is watermarked Crown CA not Multiple.

David B.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-03-07 at 22:15:37 PST   Listings
emerald.. SG only list the SPECIMEN prices for sets
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Mar-03-07 at 22:01:33 PST   Listings
David -
Strange coincidence! I guess a researcher would have to determine whether the was a PO in Notting Hill, Natal (Zululand). I'll slink back to Schweiz. )'>)

Roger
Posted by emerald2p   ( 884 ) on Mar-03-07 at 21:56:45 PST   Listings
Being handicapped with a Scott catalog,I have another specimen question.


This time I have a Cyprus mint King Edward VII 1904-07 30 Paras Multiple Crown and C A.Has a black specimen overprint and would appreciate a value.


Thank you...

Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 21:53:53 PST   Listings
Roger,

akchewly, it is a Notting Hill, Norlan Square, London cancel but the overprint looks OK, either from an uncancelled letter or cto,

David B.
Posted by 22028   ( 1566 ) on Mar-03-07 at 21:40:14 PST   Listings
So what are non latin alphabet letters? i.e. Ä, Ö, Ü and ß as found in German language?
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Mar-03-07 at 21:23:49 PST   Listings
Jim L -
I read the cancel as Notting Hill, Natal, South Africa:
http://www.nottinghilllodge.co.za/

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Mar-03-07 at 20:58:53 PST   Listings
I'm taking the eazee way out mainly because I can't decide what to scan for "ZZZZZZ's". I had choices between Zell, Zermatt, Zofingen, Zollikon, Zug, Zuoz, Zurzach, or Zuzwill. So, what to do? You are stuck with ZÜRICH - 13 pages if zou follow zee arrows.

Roger




Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1253 ) on Mar-03-07 at 19:54:01 PST   Listings
In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s my last post for the “Z”s

It’s probably “worthless” but it is a Zululand overprint.

Someone please remind me or correct me:
Sunday we start with non-Latin alphabets and the following week is numbers.

Jim L.
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Mar-03-07 at 19:22:31 PST   Listings
Paolo -
A demonstration of margins in Strubel blockshowing close to no space between stamps. A reason why four margin copies are special. The earlier issues have regular spaces, later were crooked and produced in a more sloppy manner. I do not own this block.

I also skipped the rayons, but have a CD describing all the stones and fakes. If you ever require details and think you wish to go in that direction, I'll send you a copy.

Any help I can offer for Strubels, just send me a scan and I can identify it by Zumstein cat number for you. I just need thread color and the scan!

Bjorn -
I realized the card came from Africa and my calulation is that the total franking should be 35 pfennigs. 10 for international card, 25 for registration. My 1989 Michel Germany specialized gives the on cover price for the 50 pfennig used overfranked. If different I would appreciate the information.

Roger
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-03-07 at 19:03:59 PST   Listings
wmralph Sorry for your unpleasant purchase. One should always remember (especially on ebay) if something looks to good to be true, IT IS. If that collection had all good stamps in it, then it would have sold for far more than $15,000. There are many obvious reprints, fakes and even cutout from souvenir sheets printed many decades later.
That said it appears to me that the Columbian scans are of REAL stamps! You should save every image from that auction before they are erased!!! If not your case will be very much hampered.
There are also many stamps in the wrong positions. One set to note is the first set of Hungary. These are not the lithos but engraved just like the set below them.
Best of Luck to you!
The World of Stamps
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-03-07 at 19:03:22 PST   Listings
b>Bill

I have the feeling that you will suffer the same obstacles that George found in his pathway.
eBay does not make it easy to ferret out less than above board sellers.
The "pimp" is one of the less than scrupulous sellers.

Probably Michael du Grassos' name has more to do with his involvement with the OJ Simpson case, rather than his apparent ability to correctly distinguish an upside down aeroplane on a stamp which a 10 year old could have figured out.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-03-07 at 18:57:20 PST   Listings
Makingthebestofit

This Catagory

Here Might make a buck or two.
Posted by making_the_best_of_it   ( 13 ) on Mar-03-07 at 18:44:46 PST   Listings
I'M HOPING SOMEONE OUT THERE CAN HELP ME WITH A QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT STAMPS/ENVELOPES. I HAVE 2 MINT CONDITION ENVELOPES WITH THE STAMPS AND VAICANE POST MARK. ONE I HAVE IS AN EASTER 98 ENVELOPE AND THE OTHER IS OF POPE PAUL II. COULD SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT CATEGORY IS THE BEST FOR ME TO I SHOULD LIST THEM?
THANK YOU
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 18:41:55 PST   Listings
wmralph, yes, the description is specifically worded to imply that some of the items described are in his opinion genuine although he must have known that they were modern worthless reproductions.

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 18:03:59 PST   Listings
briguy… I guess people will fake anything! I once saw an imperf 2c black Harding that had laughably fake perfs. Why anyone would bother I don’t know. Just use that damned thing for postage!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by vonbag   ( 170 ) on Mar-03-07 at 18:01:37 PST   Listings
Sorry for the bold (although I know 'Peter' doesn't like these forms of explicit excusation) but I can't excuse Ralph's messages.

Kayako (from "the grudge")
Posted by vonbag   ( 170 ) on Mar-03-07 at 17:58:00 PST   Listings
P.S. vertically, the Strubeli are more closely distanciated than the Tuscany Issues of 1852 - 1857 and 1860. There is really little in vertical distance between the prted elements, not for nothing I have one example with portions of 5 neighbouring stamps (at the bottom -- at the top the frame line is not alright).

Paolo
Posted by wmralph   ( 5 ) on Mar-03-07 at 17:57:52 PST   Listings
Dear Honest Ebay stamp collectors/ dealers;

Much good help has come from postings today re
THE $15,000 Ebay SCAM, Item # 220073134492. Link to
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220073134492&rd=1&rd=1
This was previously offered as item 220040872864, thanx greenwave4u.

Readers, of simple practical interest: is the description meant to deceive? Is a collection of old high value real stamps or simply fakes being described ? "Great rarities" phrase is mentioned twice. What about the Reunion pair? Fancy them after the reading to be real?

Note the $ value Columbians are described as real with MNHOG, how can a fake ever have OG?
How can they be honestly "figured" [i.e. tabulated] as 'reprints' just after discussion of their genuineness? With '40 years experience' pimpernal well knows Columbians were never Gov't reprinted.

Re The LAW, members correct me but intent to deceive is as serious as deceiving. This is a good test case to clean up Ebay dealings. Yes I am a novice collector, was not careful enough & was duped.

NOTE 'Terms & Conditions' posted now by pimp are not same as at time of sale. I wonder why, and have both. Thanks to all those who suggest I 'bare' all his legal expenses - perhaps they will be publically revealed. Member stamphick! your comment is very insightful.

I remain steadfast in pursuing this;
Readers please any other suggestions ? Learning about the seller's previous & present activities is helpful & inspiring.

Bill H. in Canada

Posted by wmralph   ( 5 ) on Mar-03-07 at 17:57:41 PST   Listings
Dear Honest Ebay stamp collectors/ dealers;

Much good help has come from postings today re
THE $15,000 Ebay SCAM, Item # 220073134492. Link to
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220073134492&rd=1&rd=1
This was previously offered as item 220040872864, thanx greenwave4u.

Readers, of simple practical interest: is the description meant to deceive? Is a collection of old high value real stamps or simply fakes being described ? "Great rarities" phrase is mentioned twice. What about the Reunion pair? Fancy them after the reading to be real?

Note the $ value Columbians are described as real with MNHOG, how can a fake ever have OG?
How can they be honestly "figured" [i.e. tabulated] as 'reprints' just after discussion of their genuineness? With '40 years experience' pimpernal well knows Columbians were never Gov't reprinted.

Re The LAW, members correct me but intent to deceive is as serious as deceiving. This is a good test case to clean up Ebay dealings. Yes I am a novice collector, was not careful enough & was duped.

NOTE 'Terms & Conditions' posted now by pimp are not same as at time of sale. I wonder why, and have both. Thanks to all those who suggest I 'bare' all his legal expenses - perhaps they will be publically revealed. Member stamphick! your comment is very insightful.

I remain steadfast in pursuing this;
Readers please any other suggestions ? Learning about the seller's previous & present activities is helpful & inspiring.

Bill H. in Canada

Posted by vonbag   ( 170 ) on Mar-03-07 at 17:44:04 PST   Listings
Ops sorry!

I meant to write <Helvetia> and not "Helevetia".

:-), Paolo

Posted by vonbag   ( 170 ) on Mar-03-07 at 17:42:20 PST   Listings
Uhm, I meant to write:
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Mar-03-07 at 17:30:47 PST   Listings
Jaywild One is too narrow between the perfs, the other has poorly done perfs that actually gauge out to 8, not 8 1/2. Probably both made from used and damaged #409 imperfs.
Posted by vonbag   ( 170 ) on Mar-03-07 at 17:27:56 PST   Listings
Hi Roger (malolo),

Thank you so much for your words of advice on those chalcky paper stamps (gummi/papier geriffelt ~1933 auch glatt ~1940).
Right at the moment I am ordering that period.
I skipped the Rayons (which were included) and the Strubeli: I believe there are some forgeries on the Rayons section. 1 out of 10 Strubels look alright to me, for having all 4 frame lines at the perimeter... though that scarce one has a small blemish, such as a shallow thin (pelurage) or a bigger defect (simple tear, laminated tear, raparation).
I must say I ADORE the graphics of Swiss postage and airmail stamps as seen in the flesh: extremely pleasing.
For the perforated Issues: Kinda weak paper (it reminds me of many other Issues in the Italian area), a little too stiff, it looks like, which allowed corner creases; I find these defects in abundance, unfortunately. And, of course, missing teeth (Sitting and Standing Helevetia, all Issues).
I found a good one, a papier mêlé (Faser Papier, carta con fili di seta) on the Postage Dues, which were also included. It is the 50c. value, ultramarine and blue, in used condition, perfect, but little off center to the left.

All the best, Paolo

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 16:19:32 PST   Listings
Someone was asking about US stamp colors here not too long ago, and this is the reference I referred to at that time. It sold for about what they traditionally bring on eBay.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by 220man   ( 146 ) on Mar-03-07 at 16:15:07 PST   Listings
jaywild: That explanation seems to make sense. Thanks! Phil
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 16:11:19 PST   Listings
briguy… That is very weird. How did you know for sure that the 8.5 coils were fakes?

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 16:09:42 PST   Listings
Bob in WA… I agree! pimp it is.

J

due 2 cents… I don’t think shrinkage could account for that stamp’s irregularities, because if is shrank that much the design would have been reduced too, as would the distance between perforations. As your nice large scan shows that has not happened. My guess is just that the strip used for the 3¢ stamp was from the bottom of the pane. It has a natural straight edge along the bottom that was cut unusually close to the design, so when the top cut was made the strip was inordinately narrow.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by 220man   ( 146 ) on Mar-03-07 at 15:48:01 PST   Listings
stamps12345: That won't work. The imperforate 345 has a DLWM. The 394 has a single. Any wonder people leave the Washington-Franklins for last? Phil
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Mar-03-07 at 15:42:14 PST   Listings
I dunno, to date I've found TWO fake perf 8 1/2 coils in W/F mixes I've bought. Both of them were 2c denominations, which begs the question, why would somebody fake a stamp that might EBay for as little as $1?.....practice??
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Mar-03-07 at 15:12:42 PST   Listings
WAIT A MINUTE 220 man------that 394 coil could of been made from a imperf ,345,the perfs look funky to me ,as i said earlier it looks like its been played with ....what im i missing ?.....agree with Jay i don't think anyone would issue a certif. for it
Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Mar-03-07 at 15:04:33 PST   Listings
I can't see where any comments on his ME page would have any relevance to the auction at all since his ME page is not referenced in the auction description.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:49:47 PST   Listings
IO, no, just coincidece, talking about Johnny, he has listed a few suspect items but no way of proving them as one of his creations.

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:36:46 PST   Listings
Linda

Jonathan????

No, it couldn't be the same one!!
Could it?
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:29:11 PST   Listings
Linda,

comments in his ME,

" Collections are sold without warrantee and bidder is made aware now that collector stamps come repaired, reperfed, regummed, can be possible reprints of all kinds including modern reproductions or forgeries, proofs that are made to resemble stamps, cancellations added or removed to describe just a few things one can expect in a large collection especially those that contain stamps of the 19th century "

That should be enough warning to any possible bidder to ask questions before bidding.

I presume the previous sale was unpaid as there is not feedback from the buyer or the seller,

David B.
Posted by 220man   ( 146 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:27:37 PST   Listings
jaywild & due2cents: Thanks to all for checking. The 394 is perf 8.5 and therefore has to be a coil. Scott's mentions problems with paper shrinkage during this era, so that must be the case. Phil
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:25:55 PST   Listings
LINDA -
It seems most of the bidders the firt time around were experienced ebayers too. Looking at time on the bay and feedback ratings.
Another one of those Myths about the Great deals and steals available here on the WWW.

JAYWILD -
Thanks I was almost confuzed there for a moment.
I always start with the perf count and then look at rest of stamp.

220Man nice stamps I guess.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 72 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:24:34 PST   Listings
Beautiful total lunar eclipse taking place at the moment in the UK, stunning!
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:19:49 PST   Listings
Peter-- yes, and the interesting thing with that $15,000 sale is that neither the buyer..jonathan91-- or the pimp--seller left any feedback!! even though both regularly do leave f/b for other buyers/sellers ??

David I picked up on the 'salted collection' part immediately I saw the scans, but I'm wondering why BillH. didn't even ask any questions before spending $15,000.... all these years in the trade and I never seemed to find willing buyers in the style of those that pop up on ebay weekly, it would seem!!

Linda
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:15:43 PST   Listings
due2cents… Sorry, my goof. Glancing quickly I thought the stamps were both perf 10, but they seem to be perf 8.5. That being the case, the 3¢ coil is probably genuine, since there were no stamps issued that had an all-over perforation of 8.5.

In cases where a coil stamp could have been cut from a full-perfed version, no expertizing committee will certify a coil unless it meets certain height or width criteria.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 72 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:14:48 PST   Listings
Bob Actually he was probably away checking up on his villas, its amazing what you find when you google his telephone number!
Posted by emerald2p   ( 884 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:10:11 PST   Listings
David B.


thank you for your comments and estimate..

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:05:43 PST   Listings
Io… I’ll acquiesce to anything Matt L. states but I think the difference between “bear” and “bare” would be highly significant. At the very least the clause would be unenforceable as unclear. Otherwise standard legal boilerplate would not be so extensive and numbingly repetitive, in order to cover all possible misinterpretations of the words.

Matt are you out there?

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by greenwave4u   ( 72 ) on Mar-03-07 at 14:03:55 PST   Listings
wmralph You might like to look at 220040872864 it seems it has been sold before! Look at the pictures of Newfoundland and Colombia

Peter
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:57:08 PST   Listings
Jaywild
What stamp with those perfs could that coil have been made from , 220's link
or am the perfs wonky too?
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:57:07 PST   Listings
japra_jp… First thing to do immediately is change your password. Then sign on again and see if the problem persists. I’ve never heard of such a scam, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:56:53 PST   Listings
japra_jp -- That sounds suspiciously like a spoof trying to get your card or ID information. I'd report it to spoof AT ebay DOT com and be very careful where you put in your password or card info, which at this point you may need to change.

Bob in WA
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:56:29 PST   Listings
Jim

It seems that Academy Stamps and Oasis Philatelics are also located in Beverly Hills.

Paperhistory can probably correct me, but I think it is the intent, rather than the spelling, that would stand up in a court of law. And that the distinction between bare and bear wouldn't fly.

This is the same seller that had images of albums opened on a marble credenza backed by mirrors.
Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:52:42 PST   Listings
Interesting that in pimpernal's (can we just call him 'pimp' for short?) feedback, on two occasions where he received negs as a non-responsive buyer, in Feb '99 and Feb '03, he claimed his lack of communication was due to attending a family funeral in some backwater with no internet access, apparently for a few weeks! Hmmm, 4 more years is Feb '07, better watch out for that excuse coming up again.

Of course, one has to wonder why the director of the American Philatelic Foundation and head of Rarities International Stamp Corporation who has been in the stamp business for 40 years can't find anyone to mind the store while he is paying his respects to Uncle Jed deep in ''Deliverance'' country.

Bob in WA

Posted by japra_jp   ( 22 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:51:56 PST   Listings
I am getting the following error message while bidding STAMPS (buying).

"To ensure that eBay remains a safe marketplace, we limit the amount of items that can be bought or sold by a single account at one time.
You can increase the activity limits on your account by taking the following action:
Verify using a Credit Card
Process is immediate and your card will not be charged."

I am not sure how to verify using a Credit card. When I click the 'Verify a credit card' link, it's asking password (for my ebay user id). When I gave the correct password, it's saying 'sorry password is not correct"
I am not sure what to do.
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:38:15 PST   Listings
wmralph… I see where pimpernal in his “disclaimer” apparently has tried to stick the buyer with all attorneys’ fees in case of a dispute, but instead he has said—
”Should the buyer decide to pursue legal recourse buyer shall bare all expenses including legal fees incurred by Rarities Intl.Inc.”
So instead of “bearing” all such expenses you merely have to “bare” them, i.e. expose them somehow to public scrutiny. Perhaps writing them out on a sheet of paper will do.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:28:14 PST   Listings
220man… Your 3¢ Washington coil was manufacturing by clipping the top and bottom perfs off a regularly perforated stamp.

It seems to me that the seller pimpernal was the guy that was offering that ridiculous “15 sealed boxes of unchecked material” several years back that supposedly came from another “estate”, who was finally hooted into withdrawing the lot by members of this board. Anyone remember that scam? In that case also he engaged in a long-winded blab about settling back with a glass of wine, etc.

Another weird thing is that he seems to be located in the same city where I live. I have never encountered any other seller or buyer of stamps who does.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:23:17 PST   Listings
Greenwave, this is a good example to use for the GB embossed,

http://www.sandafayre.com/gallery/stamp_2563.htm

The only way for a large margin is one side from a marginal copy,

Linda,

Even a cursory look should have shown that it was a salted collection, the usual old timer collection with some genuine in mixed condition and some classical fakes BUT with a large number of modern fakes added to snare the unsuspecting, hopefully the buyer can come out of it OK but I would presume it is a civil matter which may cost a lot of money if pursued.

David B.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1973 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:17:06 PST   Listings
Z is for Zoar, a town in Tuscarawas County, Ohio. The PO opened in 1826; the town was settled by Germans and was run as a sort of commune for quite some time. Zoar used a nice straightline handstampp; ironically these seem easier to find used to Germany than they are domestically (outside of Cleveland, I have never seen another Ohio town straightline used abroad). This particular example was used as a forwarding marking which is an extra-nice usage.

Zoar still operates as a small-town office; here is a 1907 use of a Doane cancel to France.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-03-07 at 13:02:32 PST   Listings
BillH wmralph I am very sorry for your huge loss, however, did you do any homework into the lot before buying? as I read it, you purchased just a few hours after it was listed. Did you ask seller any question at all?
I dont mean to sound 'nosey' but I am trying to understand how someone can make such a decision in such a short time?

NOIP IS That the same Foundation that was run by a Brother Collorossi (sp?) a decade or so ago?

Linda
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 72 ) on Mar-03-07 at 12:45:56 PST   Listings
Managed to get back from Colombia just in time to post a Z before it closes. Z is for Zomba. This was a small village of about 40 settlers in 1898 in British Central Africa. Zomba was the first place of issue for these provisionals or cheque stamps as they became known. March 11th being the first day of issue. The first 480 of these stamps were initialled on the back by the postmaster J T Gosling apparently to prevent fraud, this was then replaced by control characters a few days later.
For the technically minded this is only the front of the envelope and the scan of the initials was taken using the film strip area of my scanner to obtain the "see through".
Apologies for any spelling errors still on jet lag:-)

D2 Agree those GB embossed are 100% fake, I also have never seen any with as significant margin as those.


cheers

Peter
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 12:41:59 PST   Listings
IO, I presume he is bidding on those for the sole purpose of increasing his feedback and only outlawing a few dollars,

mine is easier for a layman to understand,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-03-07 at 12:34:44 PST   Listings
D2

That is exactly what I wrote.

Bill

Good start with the negative feedback.
Dang, I thought I was a cheapskate.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 12:18:43 PST   Listings
IO, no, they shouldn't be valued equally as there is a higher demand for the better values & a lower demand for the low values, the market forces have created the value not the rarity or the amount printed,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-03-07 at 11:59:22 PST   Listings
D2

I think that what you are trying to say is that all stamps of that set with perfins should be valued equally. But since acquiring the high face value "real" stamps is expensive, the high face value stamps with perfins are substituted for them and as a consequence, individually command a higher price than the lower face value perfined stamps.
Posted by sayasan   ( 632 ) on Mar-03-07 at 11:58:23 PST   Listings
Also a connection with the inverted-jenny-on-a-ballot story.

His comments on eBay archived on auctionwire:

"EBAY IS NO LONGER A VIABLE AUCTION HOUSE! For over a century the excitement and interest in auction firms was built on sales based on "what you see is what you get." Every product was sold on an "AS IS BASIS." That is no longer Ebays policy. The vendor must now under Ebays new terms and conditions fully warantee anything sold on their site. The buyer may return anything they want by simply stating "It's not as described." The buyer after examing the item can find a tiny flaw or even create a tiny flaw and return the item for a full refgund. This is all great for the buyer but the vendor has no recourse! EBAY IS NOTHING OTHER THAN A RETAIL STORE."

Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 11:43:17 PST   Listings
Emerald, I would value the 1948 $10 perf. Specimen at around $40-$50,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-03-07 at 11:41:15 PST   Listings
Bob in WA

Interesting that after his last negative feedback for selling fakes and forgeries in a collection, he went on a buying binge for cheap stamps, flower seeds etc, to remove the unwanted feedback from his current board.

Also interesting via google, is a connection between the owner of the ID and O.J. Simpson.
Posted by sayasan   ( 632 ) on Mar-03-07 at 11:35:48 PST   Listings
That's one hell of a disclaimer on the "Me" page of the seller of that $15,000 lot .....
Posted by dbenson   ( 7930 ) on Mar-03-07 at 11:32:55 PST   Listings
A little bit of study may have saved the $15,000. The GB embossed were printed one at a time and large margined examples do not exist. the margins are almost non-existant & the designs occasionally overlap. Some of the better values look like photo cut outs or computer generated copies.

IO & Emerald, there is no correlation between the Brunei Specimen set value & individual values. The lower values were issued in exactly the same number as the higher values and are of course of equal rarity. The higher value of the higher face values is becuase they are often used a spacefillers. They are hard to value but I would guestimate the lower values around $20-$30 each.

David B.
Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Mar-03-07 at 11:27:05 PST   Listings
fakes collection -- ...not to mention the 1851 12p Canada or the Hawaiian missionary!

I've kept thinking, when, oh when, is eBay going to wake up and outlaw private auctions in stamps? Instead, they are going the opposite route and instigating it in some cases, with their ''Bidder 1, Bidder 2'' nonsense! I'd love to see wmralph's case not only nail the scammer but force some real reform on eBay!

Bob in WA
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-03-07 at 11:13:13 PST   Listings
emerald

SG lists the entire set at 3.5 times the unperfined stamps.
If that's any help.
Posted by emerald2p   ( 884 ) on Mar-03-07 at 11:01:02 PST   Listings
Have a question about a Brunei stamp with a specimen perfin cancel.There isn't a value in Scott and am wondering if any other catologes have a value? It is the 1948 10 dollar value ..Scene on Brunei River stamp.


Thank you..

Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Mar-03-07 at 10:46:30 PST   Listings
WMRALPH-----Before you hire a attorney ,try contacting the RCMP ,they have a excellent fraud department and lots of experience with e-bay scams ,they will get E-bays attention real fast .
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-03-07 at 10:38:31 PST   Listings
Oh dear,

I thought that the seller had long since disappeared, along with some of the illustrious feedback providers that he has, riny218, danastamps, hadleigh, stamplady99, ordermaticman etc.
Posted by wmralph   ( 5 ) on Mar-03-07 at 10:05:08 PST   Listings
Re the $15,000 collection of fakes
If I can retrieve any of the $15,000, I promise a $2,000 (corrected zeroes) donation in support of the hobby to either of the US prof. societies.

Bill H. in Canada
Posted by 1covers   ( 1293 ) on Mar-03-07 at 10:03:34 PST   Listings
Bill - I emailed you. American Philatelic Foundation is NOT the Philatelic Foundation. One is a legitimate non-profit, educational group (who recently published a book of mine). I will give you the name and phone number of stamp savvy attorney to call.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-03-07 at 10:01:24 PST   Listings
Bill H, before you put that promise in writing, re-count your zeros. :-)
Posted by wmralph   ( 5 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:55:04 PST   Listings
Re the $15,000 collection of fakes: none of the described 'great rarities' is real. Is the description of item 220073134492 meant to deceive? Is a collection of real stamps or fakes being described here?
That the seller misrepresented the Reunion #2 stamp & would have known whether it is genuine or not is very clear from the link
http://www.americanphilatelic.com/investments.html

I paid by bank draft.
If I can retrieve any of the $15,000, I promise a $2,0000 donation in support of the hobby to either of the US prof. societies.
Bill H. in Canada
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:52:50 PST   Listings
220MAN----Yours look like a homemade coil ,could be from the bottom of a sheet were the lower part is a natural straight edge but the top looks like it was played with .If you need a scan of both stamps together ,i can put one up for you .
Posted by 220man   ( 146 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:37:14 PST   Listings
infla-alec Been here for years, mostly check-in from the balcony. I know, somebody usually has the answer! Phil
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:33:41 PST   Listings
220man I don't recall seeing you post here before but please check back regularly for answers to your question. This is more a message board rather than a chat. It can take several hours for experts from all over the world to see any messages and respond, due to world time differences. However I'm confident the US specialist collectors will be along sooner or later and can help you.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:31:48 PST   Listings
The Denmark #1 and Finland #1 and #2 don't look real, some of the German States also look suspicous. And the Basel Dove is "not bloody likely". Can't comment on Norway since countries btw Hungary and Prussia are missing.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:29:53 PST   Listings
Bill Contact 1 covers directly. Richard is 100% trustworthy and is probably in a better position than most to offer you expert advice.

Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:24:40 PST   Listings
Direct link to Bill's problem for those who do not know how to copy and paste is here

Bill in the description I read the US Columbians and many other items to be reprints. Do you have a saved description URL stating they are indeed genuine ?
Posted by 220man   ( 146 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:24:11 PST   Listings
Washington-Franklin fans: Quick question. I have a Sc. 394 that is markedly "shorter" than other coils in that series. The only thing I can come up with is shrinkage. What do you think? link
Posted by wmralph   ( 5 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:23:12 PST   Listings
For a $15,000 scam link to http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220073134492&rd=1&rd=1
Very expertly done.
I think this same item was sold & relisted in late 2006
under another description, and returned - anyone know?. Reader, would you be decieved by the text, esp. GB, Reunion #1 #2 or the Columbians ?

Bill H in Canada
Posted by 1covers   ( 1293 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:16:38 PST   Listings
Wmralph - email me directly.
Posted by wmralph   ( 5 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:13:50 PST   Listings
Item # is 220073134492. I have saved the description, the
(since altered)sale Terms & Conditions, and subsequent Emails.
I don't know how to save Email routing info - most all have been sent thru Ebay Email.
I have funds & the time & inclination to proceed with lawsuit to protect our hobby.
Bill H. in Canada
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:06:52 PST   Listings
Wmralph Bill you have to the right place to seek help I'm sure but you don't give a link to the actual auction. Can you do that please ?
How did you make the payment ?
Posted by 1covers   ( 1293 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:05:13 PST   Listings
wmralph - What is the item number?
Posted by wmralph   ( 5 ) on Mar-03-07 at 09:02:32 PST   Listings
Help! I have been scammed $15,000 by buying a collection of fakes including dollar value Columbians described as real, also GB embossed issues, Reunion Island #1 & 2, Nova Scotia early issues, etc. I may be a novice collector but I took the Ebay description as real. Since asking for return of the funds, the seller has well incriminated himself in numerous harangueing Emails. Do I hire a civil lawyer near the seller? How does an investigation of federal mail fraud proceed? I expect slowly. I know one other USPSIS complaint agaainst the seller that led to return of funds. I think this a serious matter for posting, & ask for advice. Bill H in Canada
Posted by deh3   ( 1423 ) on Mar-03-07 at 07:59:51 PST   Listings
The auction has ended. The
bidding
shows some shill bids in the early part of the auction, then possibly the $41.50 bid, but two serious bids in the last minute. Some of his other lots are remarkable for the presence of bids such as $49.00 and in general, round dollar figures.

David H
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-03-07 at 07:30:55 PST   Listings
Good day all.

Bill C

Unlikely with the 12 hour rule, but not impossible.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Mar-03-07 at 07:16:23 PST   Listings
David H Maybe the shill will retract their bid and you will win.

Forgery Identification Site

Posted by deh3   ( 1423 ) on Mar-03-07 at 07:02:19 PST   Listings
Phew, his shill just outbid me.
190086463582
(Who bids $29?) I'm the one who bid $3.33 and $30.77.

David H
Posted by deh3   ( 1423 ) on Mar-03-07 at 06:54:09 PST   Listings
This seller has a number of lots where all the bidding
is in nice even dollars. Coincidentally, the bidders identities are kept secret. Anyone want to bet against this being chronic shilling?

David H
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-03-07 at 06:52:46 PST   Listings
NOIP… Oh my

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by pennyman23   ( 967 ) on Mar-03-07 at 06:51:49 PST   Listings
Good morning folks, looking for western mountain stamp and coin!..I just found out that we are neighbors!
Posted by cwhutch   ( 636 ) on Mar-03-07 at 05:36:06 PST   Listings
Good morning.

Hutch
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-03-07 at 03:26:14 PST   Listings
Lavar oh my! what wonderful ZURUCK covers, such exotic destinations! thanks for sharing.

Linda
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1252 ) on Mar-03-07 at 03:25:41 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s some more recent Zanzibar that I had duplicates of until my niece saw them and wanted the pretty Pink and Purple stamps. click here.

She wasn’t interested in the
Jamhurt issue.

Jim L.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 892 ) on Mar-03-07 at 00:31:08 PST   Listings
Roger, in case you didn't realise it, Kamerun which your card was mailed form is not somewhere in Germany, but the German colony in Africa! Correct postage should have been 30pf.

Posted by lavart   ( 1327 ) on Mar-02-07 at 20:15:38 PST   Listings
Forgot to show the back of the last cover, which can be seen here .
Posted by lavart   ( 1327 ) on Mar-02-07 at 20:14:32 PST   Listings
Here are some more "Zuruck" items.

This is an uprated postal card from Bavaria, mailed from Munich on July 29, 1914 to Luderiztbucht, German SW Africa. Due to the outbreak of WWI, mail service to German SW Africa was suspended. Thus, the card was marked "Zuruck" and returned to the sender.

This is a cover mailed from Munich, Bavaria on Aug. 1, 1914 to Tsingtau. Mail service to Tsingtau from Germany was also suspended upon the outbreak of the war. Thus, this item was marked "Zuruck" and returned to the sender.

This is a German postal card sent from Oehringen on Aug. 4, 1914 to Edea, Kamerun. Mail service from Germany to Kamerun was also suspended upon the outbreak of the war. This card was marked "Zuruck" and returned to sender.

This registered cover was mailed from Bremerhaven, Germany on July 7, 1914, about 3 weeks before WWI started. It is addressed to Jaluit, Marshall Islands. The cover did not make it to its destination before the Japanese occupied Jaluit in late September, 1914. The cover did make its way to the Japanese PO. It was held somewhere for almost 6 years, was opened by the Japanese PO and then was sealed with an "officially sealed" label. By the time delivery to the addressee was attempted (apparently in 1920), the addressee had left. The cover was marked "inconnu" and "returned to writer", and the cover was returned to Bremerhaven via New York (transit marking March 27, 1920), arriving back in Bremerhaven on May 6, 1920.

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Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Mar-02-07 at 19:15:32 PST   Listings
oggilby -
I looked at the map in your link and if someone doesn’t take a picture of the eclipse, I won’t believe it happened. No need for eclipses in the mid-Pacific, there aren’t enough people to see it.

Io - No, as I use sharp razors.

Auction of the Day.
Coming right after my purchase of the Swiss collection, this was offered on eBay. I have no St Gallen uses prior to 1901, but this makes up for it. St Gallen was issued its first razor on 24 Oct 1898 (first use 26th) and was withdrawn with all the others on November 14, a 20 day period. This November 13 use as a receiver is one day prior to being withdrawn and sent to DeCoppet for modifications. I have no other 1898 receivers.

Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-02-07 at 16:56:21 PST   Listings
Jim Lawler

Other commonalities.

They all have computers.
They are all on the internet.
They are all above 20 years of age.
They all write in English (though their, for there leaves some room for doubt :-).
They are all extremely nice people!!

So far we have 1 Canadian, 1 Englishman, 1 Italian living in the Netherlands, 1 Australian, 1 Norwegian, 1 male American, 1 female American and 1 neutered naturalized American Brit (does it hurt?):-)
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1252 ) on Mar-02-07 at 16:33:46 PST   Listings
Jim (iomoon)
Another commonality of the EUSC’s presidents is that their IDs end differently. :8^ )

Vinny
You’ve done what eBay requires. You’re to be commended for that. We may not agree with their policies, but it is their sandbox and they do get to make the rules. It’s been a frustration, but don’t let it get you down.


In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s some more older Zanzibar stamps that are probably “worthless.”

A Building complex.

Some flora and their leader.

Jim L.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-02-07 at 15:32:22 PST   Listings
Linda

Thanks. I think ebay should always use the name instead of id since it should have the ability to handle mass emailing with the name since ebay is "so care" about protecting...


PC
Posted by dbenson   ( 7928 ) on Mar-02-07 at 14:30:57 PST   Listings
Vinny,

I noticed that you have the CSA fake up for sale again and this time it has had an ugly indelible pen marking added FORGERY which IMO opinion has ruined the item. I know it is one of Ebay's rules that all forgeries should be marked on the back which was made in agreement with the APS suggestions but what they have done is in the worst interests of forgery collectors. I know it is a problem and the APS should make a proper suggestion similar to what is done on Ebay.UK and that all forgeries only be listed in fakes & forgeries category with a full description stating that the item is not genuine.

David B.
Posted by stampmad   ( 1083 ) on Mar-02-07 at 12:51:59 PST   Listings
Ugh..THERE was a tie
Posted by stampmad   ( 1083 ) on Mar-02-07 at 12:51:04 PST   Listings
EUSC Voting procedure Sometime prior to the March meeting the president will ask for nominations for the the 4 positions of the executive. These are

President...Executive Assistant...Media Relations Officer...APS Representitive.

If nominated a person must then announce their acceptance or non-acceptance. A person can nominate themselves.

At the March meeting, votes are entered for any of the accepted nominees. The new executive takes charge from the 1st of April.
Note: Our quorum for a successful vote is 20 members

I didn't keep the result of last year's vote but I recall that as retiring president, I decided to abstain unless their was a tie.

Marius

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-02-07 at 12:30:44 PST   Listings
peeterC I have received emails such as yours after email correspondence with another selle. I think if the seller becomes under investigation by ebay for 'off ebay selling' they warn all buyers. What you received would therefore be a ''general'' email sent to several users at one time (hence no personal name), however the sure way to check if it is from ebay or not is to ONLY read ebay emails that are in your MY MESSAGES.
If its not in MY MESSAGES, it is not from ebay.

Richard yes, you're right, the Freddie Mercury Album was at London 2000 on display. Freddie's uncle was a well know London based Stamp Dealer. He traded from a briefcase, not a shop, and only sold to dealers. Vic knew him well in the 1970s and 80s.

Linda
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Mar-02-07 at 12:29:10 PST   Listings
Bjorn Yes I know there isn't any VP at present but if members were to vote for one this year, assuming Mitch does become the incoming President then the winner of the VP position will become next years President.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-02-07 at 12:26:42 PST   Listings
Alec

As far as I am aware, there are no rules about whom to vote for in the election of officers of the eUSC as long as the candidate is a member of the eUSC. Past and present presidents have included g.1, iomoon, cableguy52, vonbag, malolo, abt1950, stampmad, and bjornmu. The only common factor being that each ID starts with a different letter of the alphabet.

After people have been nominated, eUSC members vote for proposed candidates. If a person does not want to be nominated they can so state. The voting is undertaken during an eUSC meeting. A quorum is established by a minimum of 20 members voting. The new officers begin on April 1st.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 891 ) on Mar-02-07 at 11:11:20 PST   Listings
Alec, there is no VP position in the eUSC.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-02-07 at 11:03:16 PST   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

My main point of that message is that why ebay is communicating with me using my ebay id instead of my name. When I read that email in my XXX@XXX.com email account, I thought it was a spoof email.

PC
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-02-07 at 10:58:35 PST   Listings
Peter

You fill out and submit the "join us" form.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-02-07 at 10:50:04 PST   Listings
How to become a member of eUSC?


PC
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Mar-02-07 at 10:42:01 PST   Listings
Eusc Nominations.
Firstly let me confirm that I did not stand for any elections last year. In fact I don't think I even voted.

Yes I think I am still a member of the Eusc and although I do feel very flattered & honoured at being considered for nomination I do not wish to be considered for any posts, now or in the foreseeable future. Quite simply I'm happiest being in the background and helping out others as and where I can.

I do recall the trend for the second placed nominee for President becoming the following years President. Though I assume for the incoming Presidents succesor to be known there should be some sort of vote, is that correct ? If so then I have no objection to Mitch becoming the next Eusc President and we accept nominations for a Vice-President who will eventually succeed Mitch.

If we go down the road of voting for a VP then I would like to know who is actually willing to stand for the position. To be honest I don't really know what the rules are for the Eusc voting system so perhaps someone would care to enlighten us all ? I don't want to go nominating anyone just in case they like me don't want to stand. That said I can think of many regulars here who I would quite happily vote for. My problem being that so many have become virtual friends and I wouldn't like to have to choose voting for one against the other.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-02-07 at 10:37:31 PST   Listings
"Invincible banner" is the opening line to verse three of "The stripes and the stars" by George A. Mietike.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Mar-02-07 at 10:22:33 PST   Listings
sayasanYes, it was clearly a child's collection (as stated by the article) however, its pedigree is what it's all about hence the high realization at auction. I disagree about your take on the genesis of the band's name but rather that Freddie was just that - a QUEEN! He was arguably the very best frontman rock 'n roll had ever produced and always flaunted his sexual preference in public.

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-02-07 at 10:20:08 PST   Listings
peterc8888… Just ignore the email. EBay is trying to stamp out those transactions that occur outside of eBay, and you have no responsibility to answer anything in that message.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-02-07 at 10:10:18 PST   Listings
I got the message below from ebay in My eBay Messages. I thought all messages from ebay will use our name not our ebay id. Another thing is that I did not receive any email or message from predator6774. I did ask that seller a question about 260091167673 which was now removed.


Dear peterc8888 (XXX@XXX.com):

Our records indicate that you received an email from predator6774 through our Contact eBay Member or Ask Seller a Question feature. Please be aware that the email might contain a fraudulent offer to purchase or sell an item outside of eBay. We recommend not responding to the sender because the email might be an attempt to obtain your email address.

If you have already completed a transaction with a person who has asked that you take the transaction outside of eBay or if you are a seller who has already shipped an item to the buyer and the transaction was completed outside of eBay, we suggest you take the following steps:

1. Contact the payment service that you used to make the purchase. If you paid by credit card, most card issuers provide consumer protection in online fraud cases.

2. Please complete the Item Bought Outside of eBay form or the Item Sold Outside of eBay form. To access these forms, go to:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/isgw-fraud-non-ebay.html

Click the "Item Bought Outside of eBay form" or the "Item Sold Outside of eBay form" link. Enter your information in the following page and then click the "Submit" button. The information you provide will allow us to work more effectively with law enforcement in case an investigation occurs.

3. If you were the seller and shipped the item to a fraudulent buyer, contact the shipping carrier that you used because the company may be able to assist you further. If you sent the item through the U.S. Postal Service, file a mail fraud claim. To do so, please visit:

http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/

4. Contact the local law enforcement where you sent your payment or where you sent the item. The authorities where the seller or the buyer lives might be able to provide additional assistance. To find local law enforcement, visit:

http://www.usacops.com/

To protect your email and your eBay account, we recommend that you follow these safety tips:

- Do *not* respond to the sender either through the eBay system or your email account. An offer to buy or sell an item outside of eBay is against our policies, might be fraudulent, and will not be covered by eBay protection programs.

- If you received what appears to be a Second Chance Offer for an item that you recently bid on, check My Messages to confirm whether the offer is legitimate. Valid Second Chance Offers appear in My Messages with a blue background and a subject stating, "eBay Second Chance Offer for Item...." If you receive a Second Chance Offer directly in your personal email and it is not in My Messages, that means it is not a legitimate offer. If a Second Chance Offer appears in My Messages with a subject line of "Message from eBay Member," it is not a legitimate Second Chance Offer. Before responding to a Second Chance Offer, make sure it contains both the blue background in My Messages and the subject line of "eBay Second Chance Offer for Item.."

- Never pay for an eBay item using instant cash, wire transfer services such as Western Union or MoneyGram. It's against the eBay Accepted Payments policy for a seller to request payment using these methods. They are unsafe, especially if you're paying someone whom you don't know.

Regards,

eBay Trust & Safety
Posted by sayasan   ( 632 ) on Mar-02-07 at 09:43:50 PST   Listings
prochute . I recall seeing the Freddie Mercury album at (I think) London 2000. Basically, it's a standard miscellaneous junior accumulation, except that the pages are obviously laid out by a child with a noticeable flair for design.

I did spot one interesting item hidden away in the middle of a page - a modern bog standard Australian definitive with the Queen's head, across which part of a cancellation had fallen reading "QUEEN" in bold capitals. The genesis of the group's name, clearly ....

Posted by nomad55   ( 874 ) on Mar-02-07 at 09:25:53 PST   Listings
For Jeff Switt.....the mothers day stamp is an add on - note how its pasted on top of the machine cancel.
As to the supposed precancel, my guess its some sort of privately applied advertising, or somebody with too much time on their hands and a surplus of stamps.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 350 ) on Mar-02-07 at 09:05:29 PST   Listings
antonius: you can email me at vinnee@comcast.net. i've calmed down about my little forgery drama now. ebay just infruriates me sometimes wirh their inconsistencies in enforcing their policy.

i love my confederate postmaster provisional forgery. we've been through so much recently...lol
Posted by oggilby   ( 1191 ) on Mar-02-07 at 08:36:56 PST   Listings
Hey Hutch--Full moon tomorrow night plus a total lunar eclipse that will be in progress as the moon rises around sunset. Look for a really red/copper moon almost nearly invisible in the ENE. The copper color will cahnge to gray then white as the moon moves out of the earth's shadow. Those in GB & Europe will see the entire eclipse. see here. For those living on the moon, you will see a total eclipse of the sun by the earth!

Snagged the Buffett tickets, but at $126.00 a piece! Many more will soon be up on ebay.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 891 ) on Mar-02-07 at 08:20:22 PST   Listings
Elections: I didn't keep the vote results either, but maybe then President Marius did?
Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Mar-02-07 at 07:54:31 PST   Listings
wrd3...What you wrote explains exactly what I meant, but the way you wrote it was clearer.
Posted by ed845   ( 4349 ) on Mar-02-07 at 07:31:05 PST   Listings
Mitch
Your list of members voting last year is flawed.

I am pretty sure Marius (stampmad) voted and I know I did but both names are missing from your list. There must be more.

I do like the sound of your campaign manager who I am sure will be able to grab a few more votes on your behalf.

However, I am minded to vote for a gentleman and as we know only the English (British) fall into this category it cuts the field down somewhat.

Ed
Posted by cwhutch   ( 634 ) on Mar-02-07 at 07:08:29 PST   Listings
Is it a full moon tonight ?

Hutch
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Mar-02-07 at 06:59:32 PST   Listings
FROM..MITCH'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR PRESIDENT OF EUSC.....Please accept my apologies to all those { especially STAMPHICK} for Mitch's recent outburst and remarks.

Mitch-----I told you many times to cut out the inflamtory remarkes to other posters here. You need to take a more reserve position to what others say and write.You can't shoot from the mouth and be expected to get votes for your Presidence.Look back at the excellent way all the former Presidents carried thenselves,even when i said something to incese them and how they handled the sitution in such a fine and dignify manor.I expect the same from you.

Now on the subject of VULGAR LANGUAGE. There are many here who have strong religious and moral backgrounds and beliefs.Its ok to use that vulgar lanuage to me or about me,Im use to it and is common in the work I do each day,from customers,empoyees and other contractors.

But when I come on here,please respect them.They don't like it as part of this chat room,cut it out on all future postings .....your friend and supporter PAUL.

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3441 ) on Mar-02-07 at 06:50:01 PST   Listings

I have never hunted duck, or anything else really that didn't already come neatly cut up, wrapped and refrigerated. But I do enjoy fresh duck eggs, and scrambled up a couple this morning.

They are much like chicken eggs, a bit larger with thinner shells, and the whites seem to have a higher viscosity (snottier). Taste is the same.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-02-07 at 06:34:12 PST   Listings
Good day all.

Glad it arrived safely.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 350 ) on Mar-02-07 at 06:18:18 PST   Listings
earthquakes 'R' us here in San francisco!
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-02-07 at 06:01:05 PST   Listings
NOIP… For anyone who follows the financial news, Briefing.com is predicting a wave of selling when the US markets open about 30 minutes from now. The NASDAQ futures-vs-fair market indicators shifted from –2 to –23 in a little over two hours. A bad sign over the past couple days has been the tepid stabs at reversing the 400+ point drop earlier in the week. There’s no real spirit behind these attempts to reverse the trend, so today might bring interesting developments. If you hold securities with high P/E ratios, be forewarned!! The market makers may get tired of holding the bag today, and let it go.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-02-07 at 05:42:08 PST   Listings
Iomoon… As long as you didn’t gambol at that hour…

J

Nice snag, by the way.

NOIP… It’s very windy this morning. My cat—normally inert at this hour—has been running back and forth in the apartment looking out the windows, in fact it was his galloping that woke me up.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by oggilby   ( 1191 ) on Mar-02-07 at 05:35:58 PST   Listings
Greetings to all from a rainy Central Maryland, where all we have left of last Sunday's storm is piles of "dirty snow".

"SSHH, Be verwy, verwy quite, I'm hunting wabbits (duck season, rabbit season, duck season, BAM!)! (HEH,HEH,HEH)!

Off to stand in line for Jimmy Buffett tickets!
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Mar-02-07 at 05:30:20 PST   Listings
oops. sorry for the bold and Elmer Fudd. Need coffee.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Mar-02-07 at 05:29:06 PST   Listings
Z is for Zanzibar & Freddie Mercury who collected stamps as a child living there. The follwoing article makes for some good philatelic reading.

http://www.stampmagazine.co.uk/content/famous/freddie_merc.html
Posted by cwhutch   ( 634 ) on Mar-02-07 at 05:28:15 PST   Listings
I second wrd3.

Hutch
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3441 ) on Mar-02-07 at 05:20:47 PST   Listings

Mornin'...

Can anyone help ID the signifigance (if any) on the INVINCIBLE BANNER precancel-style overprint on this Mothers' Day stamp on cover?

I have already Googled without success.

Jeff

Posted by dcderoo   ( 1654 ) on Mar-02-07 at 05:07:34 PST   Listings
iomoon, here's one for you.
Don't know if you can use it but I thought it was a good image of one of the more off-the-beaten-track volcanoes.

Mt Erebus

Just to try to keep things more or less legal, here's the reference (although since it's attributed to NASA does that make it public domain?)
Astronomy, April 2007, Volume 35, Number 4, "The Big Bang + 1 second", page 39ff

Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Mar-02-07 at 05:07:09 PST   Listings
antonius-ra although I hesitate to add anything to your discussion with stamphick, given the subsequent dialogue I think stamphick!'s post makes sense. Rewritten it could be: "I know we have a tradition of the previous year's runner-up becoming this year's president. With that in mind, and recognizing we already therefore have a de facto winner for this year, I nominate infla-alec to run for president this year. This is to enable him to be runner-up this year, and hence President next year."

Bill D.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1252 ) on Mar-02-07 at 03:31:15 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


iomoon
Thanks much for the cover, it will go in my Stained Glass collection shortly.


In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s a Zambia Zoological stamp.

Jim L.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 634 ) on Mar-02-07 at 02:51:11 PST   Listings
Good morning.

Hutch
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-01-07 at 23:15:22 PST   Listings
Why I am up late.

Sometimes you gamble!
Posted by bradstonian   ( 1178 ) on Mar-01-07 at 23:13:13 PST   Listings
Hi Jim,

Thanks for posting!

Vote early & often.

Martin.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-01-07 at 23:06:51 PST   Listings
Martin

No vote, yet.
Just candidate recommendations.
The vote will come at the March meeting.
Posted by bradstonian   ( 1178 ) on Mar-01-07 at 23:04:15 PST   Listings
Good morning,

My vote is for Mitchell.

Wonder how long my post will kill the board for?

Martin.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1045 ) on Mar-01-07 at 22:53:12 PST   Listings
I have to stand up for Mitchell.

I voted initially for Bjorn with Mitchell as my second choice last year. I stood by my initial choice.
I have no idea where David is coming up with Alec as a choice.
Though as a choice for this year's president, I would have no problem with Alec.

eUSC = eSCU depending on how long a day you have had.
It beats "acceptence" from Paypal.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 891 ) on Mar-01-07 at 22:41:58 PST   Listings
I'm on eBay since Sep 24, 1996 and I think Marius (stampmad) also started in '96, before me.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-01-07 at 22:33:38 PST   Listings
Vinny or david aka the hick If you would like to continue conversation off board. Plz email me at: mward@abac.com
I gotta phone number and unlimited LD which I seldom use.

David Thanks so much for your input <;~`O. If anyone else on this board can read and comprehend what they are reading then perhaps they can educate me.
What wasn't an untruth in your statement of: Mar-01-07 at 18:16:57 PST :
"It seems for a while it has been informal custom to elect last years runner up as this years president. With that in mind infla-alec for President".

The mind boggles!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
And I thought we were getting along as well as could be expected these last couple years.
Seems I forgot W.C's famous words.

Rainer I did think about you via Io's comment. I know you were one of the firsts and I salute you!
Posted by 22028   ( 1566 ) on Mar-01-07 at 22:07:10 PST   Listings
of course, americian date format...
Posted by 22028   ( 1566 ) on Mar-01-07 at 22:06:37 PST   Listings
ebay membership, I am member since 9.11.1996
Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Mar-01-07 at 21:48:19 PST   Listings
antonius-ra ...It wasn't an untruth and I would say something else but everything further I have to say to you is a violation of eBay policy.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-01-07 at 21:38:20 PST   Listings
Stamphick No matter the reason, it was an un-truth!!
The world has enough of that don't you think?
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-01-07 at 21:36:25 PST   Listings
Vinny I tried to email you to have a conversation via phone, but ebay will not let it pass as we are not in a
"transaction" now. Ebay sucks (more than ever)!!! I do not believe you are an idiot no more than 99.999% of the people in the world who are trying to deal with WW stamps.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Mar-01-07 at 21:35:21 PST   Listings
antonius-ra...It was just what I said, an attempt to get someone else on the ballot so we can have a runner-up for next year.

I remember one year when a slate of officers was proposed and nominations closed and the winner declared all in the course of about 5 minutes. While I don't see that happening here I just wanted to put my 2¢ in now.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 350 ) on Mar-01-07 at 21:29:40 PST   Listings
briguy: the "paid" on the genuine the "aid" is in lower case. this has been updated in the new scott catalog but the older scott catalogs show the "paid" being in upper case. i had an older catalog (2000) which is what caused my confusion. i posted a link to a pic showing what i was talking about and people still think i'm an idiot and they keep saying that i don't know what i'm talking about even after i proved to them that picture in the scott catalog. they are still reporting me too even after i've completely complied with ebay and APS rules for listing forgeries.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-01-07 at 21:16:08 PST   Listings
Stamphick Is that a stab at being clever or funny or just, rite wing b.s?
It is a point but mis-aligned (methinks).

I agree Alec is a Prince and deserves the next position (next year or this, as per the club wishes)

I'm probably quite stupid as I did not understand Maoloa's comment (after the 2006 election) that I hadn't
been around long enough to really understand what was going on!
Excuse me I've only been on here for 8 years (and i take notes)! No matter I really don't care much.
But, just for the sake of truth here are the election votes from last year:

Bjorn
Triangle Maarten, Hutch, 22028, G.I., Paolo, Abt1950, Miekiemuis, Catwho walks, Jherek99, Sayasan, Stamphick, Dbenson,
Xzephyr, Roly, Nomad, Greenwave, Friar sven, Jimbo, As-is, RCLWA, Iomoon.

Antonius Ra
Tycophil, Victor H., evrytania, Cjavine, Meostamps, Richinpa, Mage, Hungaryjim, Knuden, Smolcott, Djs127, Rmhubbs,
Jim Lawler, Redlion, Roo, Figmente, 776, Bradstonian, Hi-r-luv, John9913, Sheryll, Keleofa.

Any members who feel these results are incorrect, please correct me! X
Posted by vinnysf   ( 350 ) on Mar-01-07 at 20:50:59 PST   Listings
I am so sick of being singled out and picked on because i have a forged stamp for sale. someone reported me
AGAIN to the APS and this is ridiculous because i am in COMPLETE compliance with ebay rules and APS rules regarding the sale of forgeries. obviously someone is singling me out because there are currently over 178 stamps listed as forgeries who aren't even in compliance with ebay rules and their stamps are allowed to list but not mine?? and mine is in complete compliance. whoever is picking on me: get over it and leave me alone!
Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Mar-01-07 at 20:48:02 PST   Listings
peterc8888..eBay Users' Stamp Club.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-01-07 at 20:23:30 PST   Listings
What does eUSC or eSCU do? Who are the officers now?


PC
Posted by billsey   ( 841 ) on Mar-01-07 at 20:08:50 PST   Listings
Peter since we know that Jim never makes speeling mistakes, we have to assume that the eBay User's Stamp Club has somehow been renamed in the background while we weren't looking.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-01-07 at 19:47:08 PST   Listings
What does eSCU stand for? ebay stamp chat union?


PC
Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Mar-01-07 at 19:40:34 PST   Listings
antonius-ra...Quite true. But then, if we don't have a runner-up this year there wouldn't be one for next year would there?
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-01-07 at 19:37:16 PST   Listings
Hutch Thanks buddy!

Stamphick Hmmmm, it seems you have not got rid of your penchant for the proveyor of dis-information.
I do have a list of the results of last years election in order by vote of members. Alec was not in the running, although I think I nominated him.
The last two voters were RCLWA and Iomoon (which the latter) turned the tide of the tie. If anyone wants the stats I'll take the time to type them up (really dosen't matter to me), but your statement is pure B.S.
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-01-07 at 18:27:33 PST   Listings
Art photo time!!! Believe it or not, this is the Goodyear blimp (blob with lights at lower left) and the star Sirius (white squiggle at upper right).

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by stamphick!   ( 334 ) on Mar-01-07 at 18:16:57 PST   Listings
It seems for a while it has been informal custom to elect last years runner up as this years president. With that in mind

infla-alec for President.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1252 ) on Mar-01-07 at 18:01:25 PST   Listings
I’ll second Hutch’s nominations (If this is not the time, then when the time comes, consider it seconded.)

Did someone ask about Zanzibar?
While some might call these used stamps worthless, right now they have some value to me because I can keep with the "Z" theme and show a stamp that shows you the location of Zanzibar click here.

And here’s some that celebrate the Al Busaid Dynasty, I guess they ruled from 1744 to 1944, don’t know about afterwards. click here.

Jim L.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 633 ) on Mar-01-07 at 17:18:42 PST   Listings
I nominate Mitch for president
Renominate billsey for exec. asst.
and stamphick for APS rep.

Hutch
Posted by coinjester   ( 69 ) on Mar-01-07 at 17:13:20 PST   Listings
Hi folks. Can anybody help me with this? It was my Fathers when he was just a lad. He tells me it's from the 30's. Approximately 8" high x 4 1/2 wide with the original large unused envelope. Any significant value?
Back.
Front.
Company logo printed in reverse image on lower leg.

Also this post card without a postage stamp.
Back.
Front.
Thanks for looking.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Mar-01-07 at 17:11:13 PST   Listings
FWIW

April 1st marks the begining of the new eSCU club officers.
Since there is only one more official club meeting between now and then, it would be appropriate if members or candidates could start to make their choices for new club officers known.

At the moment we have

Bjorn Munch (eBay ID: bjornmu) is President
Bill Seymour (eBay ID: billsey) is Executive Assistant
Louise Stanley (eBay ID: catwhowalksbyherself) is Media Relations Officer
David Moser (eBay ID: stamphick!) is APS Representative

These can be re-elected or new persons chosen for the positions.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Mar-01-07 at 16:44:03 PST   Listings
Hutch

Both Jimbo & g.1 are members from 1996, g.1 beating out Jimbo by about 3 months.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 633 ) on Mar-01-07 at 16:21:37 PST   Listings
NOIP - Today is my 8th anniversary on ebay and I was wondering who has been a member the longest. 10 years or longer ?

Hutch

Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Mar-01-07 at 15:35:35 PST   Listings
One can only imagine the damage if pfishers stayed in school and learnt to spell:

"For assistence, log in to your PayPal account and click the Help link located in the top right corner of any PayPal page."
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Mar-01-07 at 15:22:11 PST   Listings
Brian

The revised image in Scott, with the "aid" of Paid in lower case.
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Mar-01-07 at 15:18:52 PST   Listings
vinnysf I see you relisted that Pittsylvania Court House provisional as a forgery. Please edumacate me.

What was pointed out to ID it? Granted there is little chance I'll ever encounter a real one......but you never know. Best to be prepared. :o)
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-01-07 at 15:11:48 PST   Listings
Bob

Thanks for the information. I will just wait and see.


PC
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Mar-01-07 at 14:43:26 PST   Listings
0-9 seems to be the preferred option.
A week of non English letters
I also like Mitch's idea of dividing the A-Z into people and places then Natural history and Wildlife etc.

Bjorn I don't think anyone would look upon your decision as being dictorial. It's just a matter of you saying what order things people can try to show things.

I assume the next series starting this coming Sunday will be the non English letters ?

Now I really must be off to bed, I'm up early again 0400 for the final working day of the week.
Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Mar-01-07 at 14:30:02 PST   Listings
Peter -- I have a good friend in Federal Way who has dealt with that guy face to face numerous times. My friend describes him as honest and a fair pricer, but somewhat eccentric and disorganized. As I understand it, his daughter eventually started helping him to catch up on neglected transactions and keeping track of things. My friend always picked up his lots in person, so didn't have to worry about shipping problems, but his general opinion, which I respect, was that if you could be patient with occasional lapses in efficiency, and were not in a hurry, the guy had some great bargains.

Bob in WA
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-01-07 at 14:06:19 PST   Listings
I wonder whether I should just forget about the outstanding transactions with the powerseller who is no longer a registered user.

He has pretty good feedback score feedback score

PC
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Mar-01-07 at 14:02:01 PST   Listings
OK Bjorn, the call is yours! You are an elected President, so no 'dictator' label there!!

Linda
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 246 ) on Mar-01-07 at 13:43:51 PST   Listings
bjorn

I think 0-9 would be better than 0-10

if you want to show something related to "10", you can do it in the "1" week.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-01-07 at 13:35:04 PST   Listings
David

I guess it may not worth to get that block anymore even for less than $15.

PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Mar-01-07 at 13:21:35 PST   Listings
I think thematic A-Z is the way to go but it is to wide open. I believe it would be best divided up. Say the first 26 weeks people and places. The next 26 weeks plants, animals, natural world. Next 26 structures, achievments, things etc etc. Something like this could keep the A-Z thing going for quite some time.
Mitchell
The World of Stamps
Posted by bjornmu   ( 890 ) on Mar-01-07 at 12:34:48 PST   Listings
Alec, well I'll be honoured but I don't want to sound like a dictator. :-)

I think a week for non A-Z letters whould be interesting, I have already though about the 9 items I need for 3 extra letters of 3 alphabets. :-) But I'll have to steal an image for one of them...

Then we can take 0-10. Should we include 0? I think I have a 0 item somewhere :-). And yes. it should be predictable what the next week will be so we don't have to wait for someone to decide.

We could say that next round has to be a topic as you suggested. Not that it's only one topic that week, but what is shown has to be related to a topic starting with the week's letter.

Does that sound like a plan?
Posted by dbenson   ( 7920 ) on Mar-01-07 at 12:17:43 PST   Listings
Peter, and some perf. problems with some of the other stamps,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7920 ) on Mar-01-07 at 12:10:01 PST   Listings
Peter, it looks like there is a problem in the top right corner as well as on 2 other stamps in the right hand block.

David B.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Mar-01-07 at 11:59:47 PST   Listings
David and Jim

I finally got the back scan of the SG214 block.

SG214

PC
Posted by knackshack   ( 1774 ) on Mar-01-07 at 11:40:37 PST   Listings
Thanks Infla I will have to try tommorrow. I have to go to work thx... shannon
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Mar-01-07 at 11:36:00 PST   Listings
Bjorn I think it fair to let you decide what the format is for what follows the ABC show.
Fair to say the general opinion seems to be in favour of a 1-10 or 0-9 numeral show then back to A-Z.
I'm voting for having next week with any letters not in the English language, followed by the numerals then A-Z. The next ABC round should be something different to what has been shown these last 26 weeks. Possibly on a theme basis with each letter beinga theme showing, eg A for Aircraft,Animals, etc, etc.

Knackshack Try looking in the yellow box link below. That gives tips on how to post a link here to an image. If you are still having trouble then mail me via ebay and I'll try to help.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1252 ) on Mar-01-07 at 11:26:44 PST   Listings
Re: next series,
I concur on not having to many restrictions or rules. If we go to changing the topic weekly I suspect it would be Tuesday or Wednesday before we’d know the topic. For the most part I’d prefer more notice on the topic.


Jim(jaywild)
LOL, Just wish the cover was from Rush County. Actually I'm glad it’s not.
Maybe I should go looking for my rubber handstamp set? (NOT)
:8^ )

Jim L.
Posted by knackshack   ( 1774 ) on Mar-01-07 at 10:59:31 PST   Listings
I think I just might sound a little desperate in my stamp listing LOL Oh well.....
Posted by knackshack   ( 1774 ) on Mar-01-07 at 10:48:19 PST   Listings
looks very expensive jaywild!! :)
Posted by knackshack   ( 1774 ) on Mar-01-07 at 10:41:28 PST   Listings
thanks but there isnt anything like it in the searches.... Maybe i will post a pic if i can figure out how... Its like a collection of 12 in a europa binder
Posted by bjornmu   ( 890 ) on Mar-01-07 at 10:38:44 PST   Listings
Aaaargh, sorry for the bold again!
Posted by bjornmu   ( 890 ) on Mar-01-07 at 10:38:22 PST   Listings
Jaywild, I agree, it just doesn't look right. Besides, isn't DEC 11 a little bit early for someone to use a Christmas seal?
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-01-07 at 10:37:39 PST   Listings
News flash… Rare previously unknown handstamp just discovered. Estimated to be worth a fortune.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3439 ) on Mar-01-07 at 09:55:21 PST   Listings

Ditto JW on the Christmas seal on cover

On the alphabet don't make too many rules

knackshack do an eBay search on Europa FDC 1982 and you will see what has sold and not sold at what price. Check the completed auctions too.

Jeff

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-01-07 at 09:52:49 PST   Listings
knackshack… Take a look here. I’ll bet your exact album is currently on sale on eBay.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-01-07 at 09:22:56 PST   Listings
NOIP… Maybe I’m just super skeptical, but it seems to me the Christmas seal on this was added recently. Otherwise, why would the paper of the cover still show rippling around the seal? That frequently happens when you apply something wet to paper, such as wet gum, but it certainly doesn’t persist for 100 years, particularly if it’s been tucked away somewhere, which is to be expected for an item this old. Otherwise it would have to have been standing upright in the open somewhere for a century, which doesn’t seem terribly likely.

Survey says: Pass on this one.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by knackshack   ( 1774 ) on Mar-01-07 at 09:13:59 PST   Listings
I have a collection of europa fdcs in its own binder. I dont know how to price fdcs.... Its from 1982. any ideas?
Posted by soggy333   ( 54 ) on Mar-01-07 at 08:44:18 PST   Listings
There was a time when any cheap cover run over by a train would be consigned to the waste basket.
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-01-07 at 08:19:23 PST   Listings
NOIP… Or, we could start off with an arbitrary topic, then the person who wins each week has to pick the topic for the next week’s entries, entirely according to whim. Suppose the first week is “airmail stamp” and Joe Jones wins, and for the next week he picks “ugliest stamp in the world” as the category.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Mar-01-07 at 08:15:51 PST   Listings
NOIP… How about—“A” place names, followed by “B” place names, etc.? It would be a slight variation on the A-Z theme, and would guarantee enough entries each week.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by knackshack   ( 1774 ) on Mar-01-07 at 07:35:40 PST   Listings
never any stamp collectors on the blogs
Posted by knackshack   ( 1774 ) on Mar-01-07 at 07:33:02 PST   Listings
Hello everybody ive been blogging so i thought i would try chatting :)
Posted by knuden   ( 2212 ) on Mar-01-07 at 07:21:15 PST   Listings
oggilby - Thanks for the link. I do only collect items from Sudetenland (with very few exeptions) so I can't use this cover. But one can never know and I'm interested in seeing all material with "Sudetenland" on. :O)

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by oggilby   ( 1191 ) on Mar-01-07 at 06:37:45 PST   Listings
knuden--check this lower cover, in your area?

Greetings to all from a sunny Central Maryland!
Posted by knuden   ( 2212 ) on Mar-01-07 at 06:14:37 PST   Listings
Z as Zeppelin

Flight to North America. Registered cover.

The Sudetenland flight.
The Sudetenland flight was made as a propaganda flight in connection with the referendum in Sudetenland December 4, 1938.
Cover.
Card.
Card.
All cards and covers got this reciever on the back.
During the flight leaflets with quotations of Adolf Hitler was thrown out from the Zeppeliner. There were 4 different in 4 different colors. So far I have 3 of them.
Leaflet 1..
Leaflet 2..
Leaflet 3.

The Bielefeld flight.Cover. This cover is unusual, as it was underfranked and put in due.

The Eger flight.
The Eger flight in 1939 was the second (and last) flight over Sudetenland. Card

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by cwhutch   ( 633 ) on Mar-01-07 at 04:33:42 PST   Listings
Good morning.

Hutch
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1252 ) on Mar-01-07 at 04:27:37 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s an oversized cover I picked up for the use of the stained glass window stamp in making up the rate.
click here .
close up of cancels:
Front – Parklands Kitwe January 9, 1978here.

Reverse – Kitwe January 9, 1978.

Reverse – Lusaka (?) January 12, 1978.

Jim L.
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Mar-01-07 at 02:07:33 PST   Listings
Z is for Adolphus Zeitler, a trader and plantation owner in the New Hebrides in the early 1900s. (material taken from both the Oswald and Sarakata collections)

I hope you have enjoyed these vignettes of various people important in one way or another to the New Hebrides. I have drawn from this "Snapshots from the Pandemonium" exhibit for much of the ABC show. It is my favourite exhibit and was one of the hardest to prepare, as I tried to cover the whole history of the New Hebrides in 15 individual stories using material from just two collections.

S2
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Mar-01-07 at 01:49:35 PST   Listings
Milenko - A thousand thanks for providing me with that article! Or should that be "merci mille fois"?

Vote - I'd like to see the letters that aren't in the English alphabet, then the numbers, and then a return to the ABC show.

S2
Posted by rolyrj   ( 3 ) on Mar-01-07 at 00:46:38 PST   Listings
My Vote

Starting next week with 1 - 0 and then back to ABC but with different entries this time round.
Cheers

Roly

? The New Zealand Penny Universal
Posted by flip138   ( 366 ) on Mar-01-07 at 00:01:15 PST   Listings
Try googling "train ran over pouch"...

Phil
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Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Feb-28-07 at 22:55:39 PST   Listings
Z is for ZAZZLE! They offer a choice of vertical or horizontal format, unlike Photostamps which uses square images. This one of a distant cousin's kid showed up on a Christmas card mailed from New York. Alas, it received no cancel, although the spray on bar codes facilitated its routing. Of further interest is the fact that the card is perfectly square, so by rights it should have required a 13¢ non-standard surcharge for failing to meet the minimum 1.3 aspect ratio.

Roger -- I wasn't thinking of typewritten, which would indeed hamper investigation. I own two covers bearing notable handwriting, both established firmly only after speculative purchase, which was inexpensive. One was sent by Grover Cleveland, and the other was received and personally notated by Clara Barton. Both perfectly match expensive autographs accessible on the internet.

Bob in WA
Posted by dbenson   ( 7920 ) on Feb-28-07 at 22:35:27 PST   Listings
Jay, I doubt if even Johnno would have the imagination to use that term so it is most probably a genuine emergency handstamp, most of Johnnos markings have been rectangular boxed in Black,

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Feb-28-07 at 22:24:36 PST   Listings
Matt in AZ… When I lived in Tucson it was spring camp for the Cleveland Indians. I can remember going to games at Corbett Field in Randolph Park.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Feb-28-07 at 22:22:36 PST   Listings
D2… Does this look like a Johnno creation? Rubystamps has a whole slew of weird markings up for auction currently, and I couldn’t help but think of our creative friend.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by keleofa   ( 3388 ) on Feb-28-07 at 22:02:06 PST   Listings
Oggilby,

Cactus League!

I'm only a few miles from the Angels stadium in Tempe. My son (now 14) and I go to 4 or 5 games every preseason. We have tickets to see the Giants-Angels. Will probably see the A's, Mariners and Brewers, too. The Cubs games are always sold out the first day they go on sale, and are sold out for 'Away' games, too. Seems like most of the Chicago metro area goes to Mesa for Spring Training!

The White Sox and D'Backs train down in Tucson.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 72 ) on Feb-28-07 at 21:09:24 PST   Listings
Alec Put me down for the 1 (or zero) to 9 not including the value, then back to A to Z.
Peter
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Feb-28-07 at 20:57:38 PST   Listings
Knud-Erik… Amazing “Z” presentation.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by 22028   ( 1566 ) on Feb-28-07 at 20:18:32 PST   Listings
knuden, nice covers. Only to be nitpicking..., the first cover is addressed to Würzburg and not Wurtsburg as you wrote. In fact Würzburg is my birth place and I live only 18km (10 miles) away from it. I admit, the old German handwriting is hard to read...
Posted by richwong   ( 431 ) on Feb-28-07 at 19:59:43 PST   Listings
Although their English is still bad, the PayPal spoofers are getting smarter. They now also appeal to our greed. I just got the following message:

Dear valued PayPal member:

The PayPal Online Department choose to apply the new security system, to protect your account. In return we will credit 50$ to your account - Just for your time! Helping us better understand how our customers feel benefits everyone.

It has come to our attention that your PayPal account information needs to be updated as part of our continuing commitment to protect your account in the year 2007 and to reduce the instance of fraud on our website.

Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-28-07 at 19:44:23 PST   Listings
Kalapnath

If the Belgium Stamp ID is what you seek at least describe it a little, I am sure there is someone here who could figure it out with a little help From you. Color, enomination, words, faces, size a little idea maybe.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-28-07 at 19:37:11 PST   Listings
Roger
Thanks for that post on the Razors
I am guessing that it is like any normal Philatelic
catalog. Take the pricing and rarity scales with the proverbial grain o salt.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-28-07 at 19:21:14 PST   Listings
Prochute -
I'm in tampa bay Just Like you I think.

Spellin was never my strong suet.

It was the Gulf's we noticed today feeding at the Penta's .
We have a number of books on Bufferfly's

But lately Little one is more interested in Birds. We watched some Flinches today for a while Till the Hawk
zoomed over and all the feathered ,furry, and bushy took off so as not to be Dinner.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-28-07 at 19:15:04 PST   Listings
Kalapnath

We are not mind readers.
Try providing a link to an image of your stamp.
If that is not possible, try looking through the big yellow box below.
Elsewise, indicate the country of the stamp, the face value, what is indicated in the image on the image, and anything else that might turn an inanswerable question into one that people could at least make a stab at.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Feb-28-07 at 19:12:02 PST   Listings
Kalapnath If you could give us a link to a scan of the stamp, or further information about it, (country? age? mint? used? face value? color?) someone here will usually be able to identify it for you. This is often a slow moving board so check back regularly to see any responses. If you dont know how to link a scan, scroll back to the Big Yellow Box for details.

Linda
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-28-07 at 18:48:20 PST   Listings
Bob in WA -
No, I didn’t follow through on any attempt to confirm the writing. Sometimes one doesn’t even think of the esoteric possibilities. I think I sold it, but will check tomorrow. Off the top of my head I remeber the address to the governor as being typewritten. Oh well!

Paolo -

I’m so pleased to be an inspiration to other collectors. Any time you have a question, I’ll try to provide an answer. The Swiss chalky papers of 1940 are either easy, or very difficult to find depending on the denomination. These were the values issued and the first known dates, so no need to check any cover or stamp if the cancel is earlier.
50 cents - July 1940
60 cents - Dec 31, 1940
80 cents - 21 Sep, 1940
It is pretty easy to determine these stamps when looked at individually since the 1933 issue has a “grilled” back side. This is easy to see, thus uses after the above dates without grill are chalky paper. Be aware the 80 centimes stamp on cover is valued around SF2000, and the used stamp at SF500. The 60 centimes around SF200 oncover, SF65 stamp. The 50 centimes about the same as the 60.
The 1924 Shield issue aslo has the three varieties - plain, grilled and chalky. here is the ifon for the chalky:
90 cents - 10 July, 1940 on cover SF150-400, stamp SF75
120 - no date given on cover 150 - 500, stamp 110
150 - 30 November, 1940 Single franking SF7500, no prices for multiples, stamp SF1200.

So there is plently of opportunity for the forger to create cancels and try to pass the fake. Obviously the high priced items need a certificate, but then one pays dearly. Good hunting.

If anyone wants a list of razor cancels used with rarity and values I can make a copy and send you via regular mail, or you can check here:

http://www.a-phil.ch/A-phil/Information/Rasierklingenstempel.htm

Roger
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Feb-28-07 at 18:33:18 PST   Listings
NOIP… A view of some spooky end-of-the-world clouds over West Los Angeles late this afternoon. Here is a look in the other direction, east down Santa Monica Blvd. through Century City. The Hollywood Sign is faintly visible on the dark hills in the background, and that tiny dark blip in the sky is a traffic helicopter.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by paperhistory   ( 1972 ) on Feb-28-07 at 18:18:37 PST   Listings
I'm rusty on butterflies but that was my wife's hobby (and her summer research projects in college). I've been out on a number of full-day butterfly field counts, though I was never much better than "uh, there's something over there". I still know 2 or 3 full scientific names...

a few years ago when my wife was a newsletter editor for a chapter of the North American Butterfly Association I wrote an article on butterflies on US stamps for her...

Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-28-07 at 18:00:01 PST   Listings
prochute the meadow fritillary is relatively common in the northeast, but I think the most widely distributed fritillary in the US is the Variegated Fritillary which, according to the map in the referenced page, is found all over the contiguous 48 states except in the Pacific Northwest.

Bill D.
Posted by kalapnath   ( 15 ) on Feb-28-07 at 17:55:20 PST   Listings
hi i need some help in findig some info on this stamp that i have maybe even a price i've looked on a lot of sites even ebay but cannot find it anyone please help
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-28-07 at 17:51:31 PST   Listings
due2cents a good web site for butterfly identification for North America is here. If you have a good high speed connection you can click on the Image Gallery to get thumbnail images to scroll through. Or you can look by state or by name (common or scientific). This link gives a listing of butterflies reported from Florida. There are 18 Sulphur species in Florida, for example.

Bill D.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Feb-28-07 at 17:47:27 PST   Listings
due2cents AHEM... I think you are referring to fritillaries. Down here in the Sunshine State we have the Gulf Fritillary. More common is the Meadow which can be found nationwide in tempertate climes. All are on stamps.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1252 ) on Feb-28-07 at 17:39:39 PST   Listings
Greetings,
I’d also go for doing the numbers, but I’d suggest we do 0-9 and then go back to the A - Z, but with a “twist” of some sort. It would need to allow for a wide variety of postings, as that’s probably a big part of what has made this first pass through the alphabet work so well. Of course, if we get back to the A - Z I’ll be handicapped by my having shown so many of the Kokomo Stamp Club Covers.

A pronouncement from our president might help us out here. :8^ )


In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s the two Indiana towns beginning with “Z” that have precanceled stamps, Zanesville 734

and

Zionsville 704.

Jim L.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-28-07 at 17:25:30 PST   Listings
Little one and I Saw 9 different kinds of Bufferflys today . and released 3 monarchs we raised from eggs.
Our favorite is the Sulphurs , of course the Flitterlys, and Zebras are pretty too.
We have a bush (unknown type) that the Sulphurs only lay their eggs on so we see them the most by the front door. where the bush is.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1654 ) on Feb-28-07 at 17:09:57 PST   Listings
Something of possible interest for a Prexie collector.

http://cgi.ebay.com/U-S-A-1942-ALASKA-DOG-TEAM-POST-ENV-POSTMARKS_W0QQitemZ150096046802QQihZ005QQcategoryZ47148QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-28-07 at 17:04:17 PST   Listings
Bill D

The Monarch migration is spectacular.
I've been in tinajas adjacent to the Rio where there have been millions of them.
Better than bats under the bridge in Austin!!
At least, more colorful.

Big Bend Butterflies
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-28-07 at 16:43:05 PST   Listings
iomoon I didn't say being near the middle of nowhere is a bad thing. I'd love to come out to your neck of the woods on a butterfly collecting trip sometime. Lots of neat stuff that isn't found in my part of the state.

Bill D.
Posted by vonbag   ( 170 ) on Feb-28-07 at 16:43:02 PST   Listings
not known = unknown,
no?
Posted by vonbag   ( 170 ) on Feb-28-07 at 16:35:06 PST   Listings
Hi Knud-Erik:
"This Registered
express (special delivery) cover was sent December 29, 1939 from Danzig to Milano, Italy. [...]
All the other cancels and scriblings I'm not sure of. On the back there is Italian
receiving and arrival cancels from Milano, a lot of scribling in Italian (Paolo where are you?), a German censor label and a arrival cancel from February 18, 1940! And this was a special delivery cover! :O)
"

On REVERSE is pencilled horizontally in grey:
"Il sig. Bauer è sconosciuto in Via Casale 8 ..."
= "Mr. Bauer is not known in Via Casale 8...".

;-), Garne wieder, Paolo




Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-28-07 at 16:24:14 PST   Listings
K.E.

as usual Great write up and Covers
Thanks for sharing.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-28-07 at 16:11:42 PST   Listings
Jeff

It's worth waiting for.
Took me 20 minutes to read with DSL.
No telling how long it took K-E to write it.

I'll go with the 1 to 10 hiatus before the next round of A to Z.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-28-07 at 16:06:13 PST   Listings
Alec

I suggest the A-Z show to split into A-Z show of country name and A-Z show of anything else.

PC
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3437 ) on Feb-28-07 at 16:05:23 PST   Listings

jaywild - wow, thanks for all the info. I am at home for the evening and won't be able to compare until the morning.

Will have to wait until then to see what Knuden is up to as I am on painfully slow dialup here.

Jeff

Posted by knuden   ( 2212 ) on Feb-28-07 at 15:50:42 PST   Listings
Now as Lavart have started with the z for zurück, I might as well continue but
seeing it from this part of the pond.

This COD printed matter was sent from Ochsenfurt June 29, 1935 to Wurtsburg. It's franked with a 6 pf. "Return of Saar" stamp and
two hindenburg definitives paying the printed matter COD rate.
As the receiver
didn't wanted to pay the amount, the printed matter was canceled with a "ZURÜCK" (Return) and sent back to the sender. 

This Cover was sent from Coburg August 19, 1936 to Fanoe, Denmark. It's franked with 3 Hindenburg
definitive paying the rate to Denmark.
After first trying to find the German tourist
more places in Fanoe, the cover was canceled with a red "retour" and added a pink label ("To the return Post Office") and sent to Copenhagen, Denmark, where it got a cancel from the same office. Here the cover was added a "Retour" cancel and returned.
On the back the cover has more handwritten markings from Fanoe, stating "not here" a date stamp, a "Inconnu" (Unknown) cancel and a "unknown" label in French and Danish.

This cover was sent as catapult airmail from Würtingen January 4, 1937 via Berlin to Santiago, Chile. It's franked with 3 airmail stamps paying the airmail rate to Chile.
After trying to find the reciever, the cover got a "NON RECLAME - Retour a l'origine" (Unclaimed -
retour) cancel and returned. The circular "DEUTSCHE LUFTPOST _ EUROPA SÜDAMERIKA" cancel was added in Frankfurt am Main.
On the back there is more cancels from Santiago;
Chile and a receiver from Würtsburg on a label from the post office. there is a handwritten notation I can't read (anyone?)

This card was sent from Prague, Czechoslovakia October 12, 1938 to Ces. Vebinice in now Sudetenland. It's franked with a Czech definitive, paying the card rate abroad.
As the
receiver was gone, it got a "Abgereist - Zurück" (Left - retour) cancel and a provisional cancel with fixed date from Gmünd and returned. The "Censurovano" (Censored) cancel are from Prague. I'm not sure what the back are about but it bear a Czech revenue stamp. This card is the only known card with the Gmund cancel.

This registered cover was sent from Bremen October 10, 1938 to Eger in Sudtenland. It's franked with 7 "Union of Austria and Germany" stamps paying the
registered domestic cover rate.
The receiver was not to be found and it got a handwritten notation "Zürick Bremen" (Retour Bremen). On the back It has a reciever from Eger and a reciever from Bremen and a hand written notation, that the reciever wasn't to be found at the
address.

This
cover was sent from Vysoka u Melnika, Czechoslovakia October 5, 1938 to Gross Mergthal. It's franked with 2 Czech
definitive paying the letter rate abroad.
The reciever wasn't to be found and it got a handwritten "Zurück". The Gross Mergthal is a liberatin cancel used as reciever. The cover has a censored cancel from Prague.

This Registered
express (special delivery) cover was sent December 29, 1939 from Danzig to Milano, Italy. It's franked with two Danzig
provisional, one charity and one airmail stamp paying the registered express rate abroad.
The reciever was not found and it got < "A L'ENVOYEUR" (To the sender) cancel and a "VEDI RETRO"
(Retour) cancel. All the other cancels and scriblings I'm not sure of. On the back there is Italian
receiving and arrival cancels from Milano, a lot of scribling in Italian (Paolo where are you?), a German censor label and a arrival cancel from February 18, 1940! And this was a special delivery cover! :O)

From the same sender there is this expres cover sent from Danzig December 31, 1939 to Gothenburg, Sweden. It's franked with a Danzig provisional and a air mail stamp paying the expres rate abroad.
Again the reciever was not to be found and it has two "Retour a l'expediteur" (return to sender) cancels and "Unknown" label. On the back there is a cancel from Danzig, as the cover was sent so late, it couldn't be sent before after New years eve. There is a Swedish
receiving and arrival cancel from Gothenburg, a "unknown" scribling from the postman, who tried to deliver the cover and a German censor label.

The next cover I'm very fond of despise the condition. the interpretation of the cover is one I got from someone on the board long ago (I'm sorry don't recall who). It's sent from Deutsch Liebau, Sudetenland December 29, 1940 to Körnilowska? in Russia. It's franked with
two Hindenburg stamps paying the rate abroad.
"On the front, the address on the left is written in the Latin alphabet. This is where the letter was supposed to go. On the right, the sender tried to translate the address into the Cyrillic alphabet, and got it all wrong. Some authority in Russia crossed out the addresses on both sides in red, presumably because no one could make head or tail of them. The purple writing at the very top says “Karlinovka, Omsk ob.” “Ob. is short for “oblast”, which means region or province. The cancel reads "Retour / Moscau - Rebuts".
On the back there is a receiver stamp from Moscow dated (it looks like) Feb 24. At some point someone decided to make the effort to deliver the cover where it was supposed to go. The large purple writing on the back says:
First line: Karnilovka (region in Siberia)
Second line: Omsk nie na chodim (City of Omsk – Not Found”)
Third line: The signature of the postal worker making the notation.
This notation must have been applied to the cover after it arrived in Omsk. The cancel from Omsk is the lower left of the two on the back side, it reads “KARNILOVKA OMSK” and seems to be dated April 5 1940. At the top of the back side, someone has
underlined the “Sudetenland” portion of the return address in purple (again, written in butchered Cyrillic) however the pencil writing to the left of this mark appears merely to be a woman’s proper name, something like “Voinyna”. My friend thought the PO in Omsk did not know where to send the letter back to (hence the underlining of the butchered “Sudetenland”) and the name was probably one of the women at the PO who might handle such
deciffering matters." It's the only known cover sent from Sudetenland to Russia 1938 - 1945.

This cover was sent from Tepltz Schönau, Sudetenland July 30, 1941 to Medias, Romania. It's franked with one Hindenburg stamp paying the rate abroad.
Despise
there is no censor marking, the censor returned the cover with a marking "Zürück unzulässig" (Retour inadmissibly). It might have had something inside, which was against the regulation like more than 4 pages, picture postcards, cuttings from newspaper and so on. Or it could have been dropped at the mail box, which was against the regulations, as all mail abroad should be delivered to the post office..

This registered Poste
Restante cover was sent from Hagen June 30, 1941 to Vienna. It's franked with two Hindenburg stamps and a charity issue stamp paying the domestic registered letter rate.
As the cover was not collected it got a "Nict behoben - Zurück" (Unclaimed - retour) cancel and was returned to sender.
On the On the back there is a
receiving cancel from Vienna and a receiving cancel from Hagen.

This domestic Postal card was sent July 24, 1941 to Vienna.
In trying to find the reciever, the card was sent to 6
different post offices in Vienna. But in vain and the card was canceled "Zurück retour" and returned to sender. What a service in the time of war!

This official cover with a certificate of delivery, was sent from Auscha, Sudetenland December 1, 1941 to Tatschendorf.
As the reciever was deceased, the cover was marked with Empfanger vertorben" (Reciever dead) and sent retour.

This cover was sent from Münster July 23, 1942 to
Paris, France. It's franked with a Hitler definitive paying the abroad rate.
As the cover contained one or more picture postcards it was canceled with a cancel from the censor "Zurück....." referring to the regulation. The
scribling at bottom left are from the censor.
On the back there is a censor label and cancels and a cancel, which state picture postcards are not allowed.

This Air Mail cover was sent from Düsseldorf
December 5, 1941 to Bogota, Columbia. It's franked with three Hindenburg
definitive paying the Air Mail rate to Columbia. The rate was controlled (the weight of the cover - max. 5 gr.) and cancelled with a "Postgebühr geprüft" (Rate controlled)
As USA had entered the WW2 the mail was stopped and the cover was cancelled "Retour Postverkehr eingestelt" (Retour - Mail suspended).

This cover was sent from Gelsenkirschen September 8, 1944 to Elst, Netherlands. It franked with a Hitler definitive stamp paying the new European rate abroad, which was the same as for domestic mail in Germany.
Due to the chaos of the war in the Netherlands in September, the cover got a cancel "Postverbindung z. zt. Unterbrochen - Zurück Absender" (Postal service interrupted - back to sender" and the cover was returned to sender.
On the back there is a censor label and cancels. The cover has chemical censorship both on front and back to reveal secret writing.

This cover is a double letter (first used March 26, 1945) sent from Berlin April 20, 1945 to Neudek, Sudetenland. It was set registered with a Hitler
definitive stamp, paying the registered domestic rat but as this service was not possible the "Einschreiben" (Registered) was
deleted and the cover was sent as normal letter. As the reciever was gone or the postal service was
interrupted it got a scribling "Zr" (Retour) and was returned. As it went through allied lines, the cover was censored by the allied.

This Fieldpost cover was sent from Freiwaldau-Gräfenberg, Sudetenland March 3, 1945 to a German soldier in Vienna. But as the reciever
couldn't be found the cover got a Zurück reciever" (Retour sender) cancel and was
returned.

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-28-07 at 15:47:34 PST   Listings
Milenko

No idea.

Looks like Louise went from stamp seller to video game buyer on christmas day.

Maarten hasn't surfaced since early december.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 246 ) on Feb-28-07 at 15:10:52 PST   Listings
by the way, what happened with Louise and Maarten?

a long time without news from them...
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 246 ) on Feb-28-07 at 15:06:41 PST   Listings
I'd like to continue with 1-9 and a-z later too.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-28-07 at 14:54:18 PST   Listings
Bill D

At least we are on the radar screen, (barely).
Posted by stampmad   ( 1083 ) on Feb-28-07 at 14:38:11 PST   Listings
Alec My vote is for 1 - 10 and then back to A - Z. Although I haven't contributed a great deal it certainly has been interesting viewing.
Marius

Michel Great to see you back.
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Feb-28-07 at 14:35:49 PST   Listings
Jeff S… Houston was the only other Texas location that used a Pneumatic canceller, so you’ve got 2/3 of them already!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Feb-28-07 at 14:32:12 PST   Listings
Jeff S… To elaborate further on the Galveston marks, the scheme used (i.e. C2d/b-5a) can be broken down into dial and killer halves. To the left of the dash is the dial type, to the right is the killer. In this case, two dial subtypes exist, C2d and C2b—thus the slash mark between the “d” and “b”. The “d” means the year was in four digits (i.e. 1900) and the “b” means a two-digit year (02).

The other Galveston dial used is identified as D2b/x. The “b” means that a two digit year is shown, the “x” means that the year is missing. It is unknown whether the slug is absent or it just didn’t print.

Complicated enough for you???

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by vonbag   ( 170 ) on Feb-28-07 at 14:24:41 PST   Listings
Hi Knud-Erik,
Thank you for your kind post!
I am a little busy with these stamps at the moment :-)
Some weeks ago I was at the LOBA (LOL! "Loosdrecht Briefmarken Aufstellung" between abundant quotes); I did find some interesting material for me but, as of today, I received on the mail two *fines* for overspeeding by car in the Hilversum area. The dates corresponded to my vists to the exhibit, arrival and departure, thus I could not give the fault to my wife ;-)
They are very FISCAL over there!

All the best to you & good night!
Paolo



Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Feb-28-07 at 14:21:50 PST   Listings
Jeff S… Beaumont TX has one type only, C2b-5b, rarity: c ($10-$25), while Galveston has two major type and two sub-types. The first C2d/b-5a (rarity: b) was used from Nov. 30 1900 through April 10 1903, and the second D2b/x-7c (rarity: c) was used from May 1 1903 through October 22 1903. If you can read the date you can figure out the type.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Feb-28-07 at 14:15:47 PST   Listings
Jeff S… I happen to have that very Pneumatic Machines publication. Your Zanesville cancel is TYPE K2b-5a, in use from October 21, 1900 through March 12, 1902. Morris Payne rarity factor: b (uncommon—$5-$10)

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by knuden   ( 2212 ) on Feb-28-07 at 14:07:51 PST   Listings
Paolo - Hi old friend. It's nice to see you are writing againg. Keep up the good work! :O)

Alec - What does "Nicht behoben" mean in English??

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:56:23 PST   Listings
Linda I have the actual computer running ok but have no printer or scanner working due to Hewlett Packard not having drivers available that will work on the Vista operating system. Hopefully that issue will be resolved in the next couple of weeks. I really can't afford to go out and buy new.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3437 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:54:12 PST   Listings

Matt - how many Texas? I have examples from Galveston and Beaumont.

Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:53:07 PST   Listings
lluehhhb your link is to Alpine California, near San Diego. Jim lives in Alpine, Texas, close to the middle of nowhere.

Bill D.
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1972 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:51:32 PST   Listings
Jeff: the Morris/Payne books are liberally illustrated with known varieties. Of the 170 pages, the listing of known cancels takes about 5 pages. Not many towns used Pneumatics....(Zanesville was the only one in Ohio).
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:49:34 PST   Listings
Milenko

Nope, I'm in the one with negative humidity.



Linda

No volcanoes in Zululand or Zanzibar, how about Zambia.

One of my students was bouncing off the walls this morning. She found out that she had been chosen for the NASA summer intern program to work at the Johnson Spaceflight Center.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 246 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:35:46 PST   Listings
Jim

Is this the city in which you live in?
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:22:49 PST   Listings
alec Hope all is working well with your computer/isp now.
I vote ten weeks of ONE to TEN.

I have really enjoyed the A-z sorry I lucked out on Z.
I had hoped to see some Zanzibar and Zululand here too. Many years ago a leading Australian philatelist lost everything in a bushfire. When he started collecting again he collected ZANZIBAR and ZULULAND because they were the last 2 entries in the Commonwealth Catalogue. (Zimbabwe was still listed under Rhodesia). He amassed a large collection in a relatively short time, and it was very interesting as both countries contain so many lovely stamps, interesting varieties and overprints. (He was a printer by trade and enjoyed the wonders of OVERPRINTS). He was a good friend of my husbands, and shared his new treasures weekly with us, over coffee and a chat.
So I was most disappointed not to see a Zanzibar or Zululand here... come on, Mitchell, show us yours!!

Linda
Posted by vonbag   ( 170 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:18:22 PST   Listings
As of recent,
after I bought a rather large Switzerland collection (Roger has and will be my inspiration!), unused and used, I decided to deepen on chalky papers, so called "gestrichenes Papier" in German (or whatever, in Michel -- krijtachtig papier / papier caryeux ou couché / carta gessata o patinata).
That is implicitly to say I found some good ones of the period 1940 in the Swiss area which obliged me to research a bit better on the topic (on the internet and on paper material).
I first discovered, contrarily to what I thought, that the Issues of 1867 and 1868 of the Roman States are NOT 'chalky papers'.
They are some kind of other type of paper, with a glossy varnish not containing chalk (CaSO4 bi-hydrate).
According to one good source, which I will soon link, properly named 'chalky papers' were initially introduced from the beginning of the XXth century (1900 on).
As it is known, from the definition of chalky papers, the side of the paper that was to receive the impression was preventively covered of a thin boundary of chalk, of the hydrate state I presume,
not only because of its property to fill the gaps between the paper fibres and thus allowing a better quality printing,
but also because, in the earlier stages, the layer of chalk was unstable, it easily altered with soaking in watery solution: this was therefore a valid deterrent of some Postal Administrations against re- use of used postage stamps, so to prevent Postal Fraud.
This said, the well preserved copies of stamps printed on chalky paper generally show more vivid colours.
And also: the printing pigments are ABOVE the layer of chalk. This allows the ease of recognition through viewing with light obliquely in the case of printing with inks of different brightness qualities as the chalk layer: it can be seen as a printing OVER the background.


All the best (I have some questions for Roger, of course, but I will do it in the next weeks; I found some of His Razor cancels, but checking on his exhibition online, I deduced they are all common types... it was a kick to find these RAZOR CANCELS, though!)
Paolo

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3437 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:16:29 PST   Listings

Ditto Benson

And to answer my own question:

Pneumatic: The Machines & Postal Markings Attributed to the Pneumatic Cancelling Machine Co., 1898-1904. (Reg Morris & Robert J. Payne/1991): The complete work on the subject, with a history of the company and its patents, and sections covering the experimental period and contract periods of the during which the machines were used. Fully illustrated and annotated, with catalog numbers, known periods of use, rarity factors and corresponding value ratings. (170 pages; unbound.) #970532. $27.00.

170 pages!! Dang.

Jeff

Posted by dbenson   ( 7917 ) on Feb-28-07 at 13:14:28 PST   Listings
Alec,

A TO Z again but preferably material not shown before,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 513 ) on Feb-28-07 at 12:43:47 PST   Listings
Time to decide what happens next The ABC show is coming to a close as the Z's are the last letter.
So time for people to decide exactly how and what they would like to have done next. Several ideas have been mentioned before but nothing was decided.
Give your prefered opinion here.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3437 ) on Feb-28-07 at 12:24:33 PST   Listings

Z is for:
ZANESVILLE OHIO PNEUMATIC MACHINE CANCEL
and
W. J. ZINK a Cleveland stamp dealer.

Is there a checklist for Pnewmatic machine cancels available? Haven't googled yet. I hope I did these correctly, my previous V links were totally SNAFUed

Jeff

Posted by chipg   ( 209 ) on Feb-28-07 at 12:09:43 PST   Listings
Oggilby Your safety in a car in a lightning storm has nothing to do with the tires. Lightning travels on the outside of a metal sphere or cage. As long as you stay inside the car, you can actually touch the inside surface of the metal without feeling the lightning. See: Museum of Science / Boston page that discusses. They have a "lightning room" there and do an awesome show on the topic.
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 246 ) on Feb-28-07 at 11:35:54 PST   Listings
Sheryll
It took some work but here is what you were looking for.

L'Echo de la timbrologie, number 1147, June 30th, 1949

the page is here. Since the paper of the magazine is quite bad, it turned yellow and the photocopy results dark.

Unfortunately not much extra info for your collection...
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-28-07 at 11:28:39 PST   Listings
Kim The value is shown on each stamp, 29 cents.
If you have a whole bunch of sheets figure about 23 cents a stamp. Best to use them for postage. Philatelically speaking it is the most worthless of all U.S commemoratives.
More of these were printed than any other commem. Of course people who know nothing about stamps seem to think they are worth something because the BIG "E" is on them. Check ended ebay auctions to see what you might get for them.
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 154 ) on Feb-28-07 at 11:00:27 PST   Listings
billsey
Yes, we've had probably a couple inches since yesterday. Fortunately it has not been sticking around, yet. We'll see what the evening has in store for this very remote, rural valley. Oh well, lots of time for my stamps and learnin' from the regulars here.
Lynn
Posted by kdcohen   ( 2 ) on Feb-28-07 at 10:59:53 PST   Listings
I have a full sheet of Elvis 1993 First Day of Issue stamps and the individual stamp in a commemorative sleeve that I would like to sell. Can you tell me how to find out their value and how to sell them? Thanks. Kim
Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Feb-28-07 at 10:34:02 PST   Listings
Roger -- I found your description of that cover associated with the Lindburgs very interesting. Did you ever try to compare the handwriting? I've had a few instances of seeing a cover possibly from a well-known individual, for which I do a Google image search for autographs to check it out.

Bob in WA
Posted by oggilby   ( 1190 ) on Feb-28-07 at 09:57:36 PST   Listings
Due2cents--I'm no longer a season ticket holder for the Orioles, the office folks had two seats to split between 20 people). I might get to three games a year now, but I miss the days of 6 dollar aluminum upper deck seating at Memorial Stadium. Now it's 20 dollar upper deck seats at Camden Yards.
Posted by billsey   ( 841 ) on Feb-28-07 at 09:42:17 PST   Listings
Lynn did you get much more than we did? I'm in Hillsboro this morning and we - maybe - got a half inch.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-28-07 at 09:36:50 PST   Listings
Oggilby
I live in the heart of Spring Baseball. Here on the west coast of the east coast. I have No interest in Professional sports at all, mainly due to the fact that my local Government spends so much money( some mine) supporting the millionaire players and Billionaire owners. I have learned what streets to avoid to miss the traffic problems. And am always reminded by the potholes and drainage problems what that money should be used for.
But new stadiums and luxury boxes are more important.

Today a story in paper that the local Hockey team is losing monies (ahh) so parking at all events at one local venue going up to as much as Thirty bucks. The owners of the team need more money. This means all events Not just Games, concerts etc. IMHO It sucks.
Posted by oggilby   ( 1190 ) on Feb-28-07 at 07:32:29 PST   Listings
Jim/jawild--do I need your last name for a mailing?
Posted by 19thcentpostal   ( 154 ) on Feb-28-07 at 06:52:32 PST   Listings
Good morning all, from a cold and snowy St. Helens, OR.
Lynn
Posted by oggilby   ( 1190 ) on Feb-28-07 at 06:49:50 PST   Listings
Roger in HI--Past you bedtime? The closest lightning strike I've witnessed was when I was in my car in a parking lot waiting to start a softball game (delayed by rain) when a bolt hit the light pole behind my car. All I saw was white light, heard a loud buzz. The people parked down the lot from me said later, that the bolt jumped from the light pole to the roof of my car. It's a good thing I was sitting on rubber tires!
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-28-07 at 06:39:28 PST   Listings
oggilby -

Just for the record we were woken up last night at about 10:30 by a very close lightening crash. Net effect, must reset all elecronics in the house today as power went off for about 30 seconds. We get lightening once or twice a year here. No snow in the forecast!

Roger
Off to work making the skies safer.
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-28-07 at 06:36:40 PST   Listings
little*sky -
I was thinkng the same when you mentioned puzzles for shipping. I had a 1930's GB envelope once that had a printed return address on the back. I googled it and discovered that during the period it was mailed, Charles Lindberg and his wife were guests at the property of the address. The cover was written to the Governor of Maine, who turned out to be a close family friend of Mrs Lindberg. Her father was an US ambassador and a very close friend of the Governor. My conclusion though it could never be proven was the letter (missing) was sent from Mrs to the Governor. It would have been interesting to read. A side note was a short email correspondence I got into with the local historian who confirmed the Lindbergs used to stroll through the village and the local people were nice enought to give them privacy. The letter was dated only a few months after the death of their child by the kidnappers. (This from memory, which may be failing.)

Roger
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-28-07 at 06:34:17 PST   Listings
Good day all.

Z is for Zaire.
Posted by oggilby   ( 1190 ) on Feb-28-07 at 06:20:57 PST   Listings
Greetings to all from a beautiful, almost snow free, Central Maryland. Spring training inter-squad games start today, Openning Day not far behind. Are there any lurkers that are close by to the Cactus League, Grapefruit League areas?

Any US vending books collectors out there? My PO still has the Snowflake vending book. I'm jus' sayin'! (place for disclaimer of business purposes)
Posted by little*sky   ( 164 ) on Feb-28-07 at 05:04:04 PST   Listings
malolo, much thanks! i had overlooked sir john conroy, who thanks to your link i now know to be a real piece of work. seeing as how the request was for toys just before christmas i wonder if they might have been for a then 15 year old victoria?

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1250 ) on Feb-28-07 at 04:31:36 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s a Kokomo Club cancel from Zeeland, Michigan.

Jim L.
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Feb-28-07 at 02:10:42 PST   Listings
Milenko - Thanks!!

The quote from my 1967 Hals and Collas New Hebrides "bible" says (p70):

In fairly recent years forgeries, both of the stamps and overprint, have appeared on the market in England and France, and were described by the firm of Henri Thiaude in "L'Echo de la Timbrologie" in 1949. The paper was very white, falsely perforated, and the gum was thick white.

S2
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 246 ) on Feb-28-07 at 01:47:38 PST   Listings
Sheryll,

Since I guessed you were looking something about New Hebrides, I did a quick search through the 1949 issues of the magazine and didn't see a major article about it, the closer I found were two about New Caledonia. I'll back there to look again.
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Feb-28-07 at 01:29:11 PST   Listings
Milenko - Many thanks for your kind offer, and I am sorry I didn't get back to you earlier (busy day here).

The article is by Henri Thiaude and is likely to deal with the 1907 French "Nelles Hébrides" essays of the New Hebrides. All I have is a reference to the journal and the year.(See my 1907 French "Nelles Hébrides" essays page)

S2
Posted by bjornmu   ( 889 ) on Feb-27-07 at 22:56:04 PST   Listings
Sorry for the bold, it's sill morning (yawn!)
Posted by bjornmu   ( 889 ) on Feb-27-07 at 22:55:39 PST   Listings
Jaywild, I thought you were talking to me in Armenian or something! :-) Yes, I agree it's probably contrived but I bught it anyway, thanks!
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-27-07 at 21:49:15 PST   Listings
45SHORT ----Here are the stamps your talking about with the rouletting between the pairs and one thats seperate .these are normal for this issue .If yours are imperf and no sign of the roulette cut then they have a good value to them . South Africa pairs hope this helps ...paul
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Feb-27-07 at 21:47:15 PST   Listings
Short they were first issued in 1941 as regular size stamps, and from 1942 onwards, in a 'paper saving' drive, issued in a reduced size as can be seen in this scan of the Stanley Gibbons Catalogue page.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 323 ) on Feb-27-07 at 21:38:47 PST   Listings
Short Sounds to me like you have the War Effort issue, bi-lingual, smaller size with roulette between. I dont have a Scott catalogue so cannot check the numbers you quoted. presuming the stamps are designs of soldiers/ nurses / tanks etc.?

Linda
Posted by stamps12345   ( 223 ) on Feb-27-07 at 21:34:42 PST   Listings
45 SHORT----You have the normal stamps with the rouletting between the stamps which came in pairs,no they are not imperf s .....let me get a showning from my collection .
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 72 ) on Feb-27-07 at 20:16:11 PST   Listings
Jim Couldn't agree more with what you said about the Chinese currency and they have a hell of a lot of $
in reserve. Currently enjoying myself in Bogota, I can really recommend this place for good food!

Peter
Posted by jimbo   ( 388 ) on Feb-27-07 at 19:51:52 PST   Listings
45short,
My catalogue describes the stamps as having been perforated all around in perf. 14 which is 14 holes in 2 centimeters. There is a 6½ roulette between. That would appear as small slits to aid the separation again guaged as 6½ in 2 centimeters. If there is evidence of the roulette between the stamps then they are normal. If not, they would be described as imperf between. Such imperf between pairs exist but they are quite rare.

jimbo
Posted by 45short   ( 49 ) on Feb-27-07 at 19:14:39 PST   Listings
Can anyone help me identify perfs? I have South Africa #A36 & A37 horz pairs. One says South Africa, the other Suid Afrika. Both prs are perfed around entire with a small separation perf, NOT reg perf in between. Is this a imperf?
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-27-07 at 19:09:53 PST   Listings
Thought I'd show the rest of the newcomers who decided to come to Hawaii. I think the descriptions are self-explanitory - I did leave out the 1898 uses having explained and showen some earlier this "weekend".

In alphabetical order here are significant additionals to my collection.
The last use Bellinzona.

Last use of the Bern Type 4 canceler before it was withdrawn for modifications which included a 24 hour hour wheel. The result looked like this as a Bern Type 5.

The very last use of the Chur Type 4 device used as a receiver on the day a bus made a round-trip over the Julier Pass in Winter. The device was used in the morning at 8 am on mail going to St Moritz. The receiver time is 7pm. Included with the card was a newspaper clipping dated Feb 5 1935 describing the transit of the pass.

Last use of the Geneve Rue Du StandType 2 prior to its modifications after WWI, which it appeared as this Type 3. (I found this last summer on eBay.)

Neuchatel Type 2 used as a receiver (top) 7 days after being issued in 1902 and last use of the same canceler, April 1, 1919, (bottom) prior to the 24hr modifications.

First uses of Zurich Type 4 and Zurich Type 5.

So all in all an very nice lot which has the effect of saving me many hours of searching. I won’t stop looking but now my time will be spent organizing and laying out pages.

Roger
Posted by 22028   ( 1565 ) on Feb-27-07 at 18:54:17 PST   Listings
Anne, thanks for the comprehensive answer. I saved them for future use. Well, I guess, will list them on ebay as individual lots...
It want be enough for a new Mercedes..., but maybe for a taxi ride to the nearest Mercedes Showroom ;-)))
Posted by jaywild   ( 925 ) on Feb-27-07 at 18:43:19 PST   Listings
bjorn…

X

Probably deliberate, though, it’s being the last day of the PO.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by meostamps   ( 98 ) on Feb-27-07 at 18:41:57 PST   Listings
IOMOON..Jim, Try a Google on "National Union of Traders and Marketing Association" from Nigeria. Mike in NYC
Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Feb-27-07 at 18:31:52 PST   Listings
Jaywild -- I have quite a few such, although there are so many I've gotten fairly selective. That one is nice because the stamps qualify, too.

Bob in WA
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Feb-27-07 at 18:29:10 PST   Listings
Good night to all and to all sweet dreams of revenuers revenuing, De Coppets cancelling, and paper graders grading. Anne
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1250 ) on Feb-27-07 at 17:29:40 PST   Listings
In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s a cancel from Zion, Ill., USA card 5-8.

Jim L.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-27-07 at 16:55:37 PST   Listings
Just got a good work-out, weed-eating the front "lawn".
Something you snowbound people don't have to worry about yet.

How about N = Nippon?
Posted by vinnysf   ( 347 ) on Feb-27-07 at 16:39:14 PST   Listings
iomoon...i dont know what it means but the first thing that came to mind was "nutmeg" lol
Posted by jaywild   ( 923 ) on Feb-27-07 at 16:32:06 PST   Listings
Bob in WA… Do you collect nudes on cards too?

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by dbenson   ( 7909 ) on Feb-27-07 at 15:48:30 PST   Listings
IO, it's a personal chop, looks like wood which means that he couldn't afford the ivory ones that the wealthier people used to use,

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-27-07 at 15:32:32 PST   Listings
D2

Probably English, along with the "made in Japan".
Makes sense.
Wish I could get my hands on a copy of the Japanese revenue stamps.
Seller states that it is postally used.
I don't think so.
That looks like a blue chop to me.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7909 ) on Feb-27-07 at 15:21:04 PST   Listings
IO, just a guess that the TMA part is Tobacco Manufacturers Association, over to you on the NU part although possibly National Union, but on the other hand the initials may relate to Japanese & not English,

David B.

Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Feb-27-07 at 15:08:38 PST   Listings
b>Roger: Mostly I've been knitting socks. Seriously.


Knitting is one of my other addictions, and I've been indulging in it lately. A handknit sock is a wondrous thing--softer, warmer, better fitting, and more comfortable than anything store-bought. Also, the shaping of a handknit sock is a true archetectural marvel. And it's all done with string and pointy sticks.

You're right about the breadth and depth of knowledge represented by the members of the board. It's a wonderful resource for general and specific knowledge. I'd certainly be a far less sophisticated collector without it.

I'm equally amazed by your deCoppet materials and the amount of philatelic discipline it's taken to put your exhibits together. How do you cope with philatelic ADD?

oggilby: Congrats on getting things sorted out. It's been a long haul.

Anne
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-27-07 at 14:46:06 PST   Listings
Question.

Does anyone know what N.U.T.M.A. stands for?
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-27-07 at 14:28:16 PST   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

I agree with your point of view. One thing that worries me is that if China has financial problem, it may dump US currency (is it currency or something else like bonds/notes) that it owns.


PC
Posted by jaywild   ( 923 ) on Feb-27-07 at 14:19:32 PST   Listings
Jeff S… I haven’t gotten the 2¢ Liberty cover. What’s interesting is that it might not be bulk rate but the Christmas card rate in effect at that time—2¢ for cards with only printed messages in envelopes that were left unsealed.

peterc8888… What I meant about China is that since its currency is fixed (i.e. not permitted to float) the impact of its economy is skewed relative to the rest of the world. In the US an overheated economy has very direct effects on the value of the dollar, and a sort of equilibrium is achieved through these fluctuations. However China can be viewed as a pressure cooker, where the shock waves generated by the stupendous growth of the past ten years, averaging roughly 9% per year, has been bottled up in the fixed renminbi. Just how explosive this situation can be was revealed overnight, when attempts by Chinese authorities to reign in wild speculation on the Shanghai Stock Market resulted in a one-session plunge of 9% across the board. Markets today all around the world reacted by following suit. In the US the NASDAQ lost just short of 4% of its value.

In short, economic pressure is like toothpaste. You can put a cap on any toothpaste tube, but if you squeeze the tube hard enough it’s just going to find some other way to get out.

It will be very interesting to watch how this plays out. It may be worth remembering that it was one country—the US—that dragged the entire rest of the world into Depression in the 1930s, purely through thickheaded monetary policy. (Hoover ordered a squeezing of the money supply after the market crash in ’29, instead of opening the floodgates.) China’s economy is still relatively small compared to the rest of the world, but globalization has made international finance and investing a whole different ball game than it was 70 years ago, and we don’t yet know all the rules. Who knows how far the ripples will spread if the bureaucrats in China (remember that they are still officially a Communist country) react in a way that turns the Shanghai eruption into a countrywide disaster? They have very little experience handling a market-based economy, and as a rule don’t take kindly to outside suggestions, even from quarters that have been there and done that.

Just my 2¢…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-27-07 at 14:16:23 PST   Listings
Whoooa Anne -
When someone asks a question about the Middle East, you sure come alive. Just last week there was talk about your whereabouts. LOL.

As has been written before, this Board has enough individual collectors to make a great "Club". I sometimes think to myself how much better this venue is than a monthly inperson meeting where topics must be planned. No offense to our monthly meetings! I believe there were over 400 members here last time we counted and that can't be duplicated in any city anywhere.

Roger
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Feb-27-07 at 14:02:31 PST   Listings
Still more revenues (as if everyone weren't already sick of these posts).

Image 5 is easy and hard at the same time. The two in the upper left hand corner are the only revenues here. They're probably the most commonly seen revenues in general collections. But identifying them more precisely is harder, since the same design was reissued several times. I can't see the date or watermark, but they could be either a) 31 or 31a 1939-49; watermark crown & Arabic F; 40(1957-8, watermark small eagles and Egypt) or 46 or 46a, 1959-61, watermarked UAR. What little I can see of the cancel suggests it's the latter.

The numeral stamps in that image are from the 1962-3 Official set and common. The pink stamp is one of the 1921-22 de La Rue landscape issues "Extreme corner" is probably just a partial cancel applied by the post office at its destination.

So, Rainer--don't you wish you'd never asked?

Anne
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-27-07 at 13:56:07 PST   Listings
Kalapnath - how about a description I have lots of books
Maybe a Revenue or Due, or?

Posted by kalapnath   ( 15 ) on Feb-27-07 at 13:52:02 PST   Listings
hi everyone i need some help please i have a stamp it's a belgium stamp and i've searched for it on ebay as well as other sites and havent come close to finding it can someone help me in finding a site where i may find some info and probably some prices
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Feb-27-07 at 13:46:48 PST   Listings
Still more Egyptian revenues:

4. Top row: Ministere de Finance issues, 1938, except for the Palestine overprint in the middle. They are 22, 21, 101 (First Bilingual Issue for Palestine), 24 and 25. 25, the 200 mills cats at $15.00 new, 2.50 used. The Palestine o/p is the best so far--$50 plus mint and $40 used.

Row 2: from the 1937 Royal Crest issue. Up until now, all the stamps have been general revenue issues, except for image 1. These are Consular Service stamps. 39 mills is Feltus 420, $8.00 used. 100 mills=422, $10 mint, 2.50 used.
200 mills=423, no mention of color varieties. 386 mmils=424.

Row 3: First one is 425, see above. It's $10.00 mint.

The last four are first issue salt tax stamps, 1892. The government briefly maintained a monopoly on selling salt and you would buy stamps at the post office to allow you to buy a certain amount of salt at the salt warehouse. It looks like you have 202, 203, and two copies of 201. they're not hugely expensive used, but it's fun to collect the cancels. A lot of the ones I've seen have not been in the best of conditions. They were replaced in February, 1892 by a 50m provisional overprint and in July by the De la Rue issue.

Anne
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Feb-27-07 at 13:27:09 PST   Listings
Egyptian revenues, cont.

3). Top row 1-6: More Palestine overprints. Feltus 102, 103, 104, 107, 108. Last one: 73, from "The A.R. Egupt issue,1974-80?

Row 2: All but the last from the 1964-72? UAR issue. 1 pound is 64, $12.00 mint, $10 plus used. 500 m green is 63, $10.00 & $ 8.00 respectively. The last 3 are 62; 58-- possibly 58a or b, depending on the intensity of the background design--it's faint in a and non-existent in b. The last stamp, th 150 green, looks to be 79 from the 1978 Egypt issue.

Row 3: 25 m green is 71, from the AR Egypt issue. Second and third (the 5 mills) are from the AR Egypt issue, 68, and the earlier UAR isse (56 indigo or 56 a slate).

The two Officials with overprints are from the 1915 Provisional issue, 10 and 8 respectively. This by the way was the second set of Egyptian revenue stamps. The last one is Feltus 11, the low value in the "Egypt Revenue Issue," January 1916. Feltus values it mint at $15.00.
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Feb-27-07 at 13:03:19 PST   Listings
Sorry, I hit the wrong button and some of the info isn't 100% accurate.

Here it goes again:

1) I can't identify it in Feltus, which may mean it's more recent or not Egyptian. My knowledge of Arabic is mimimal, but I'm not sure I can make out a "msr" anywhere. It could well be a publicity or propoganda label.

2)The 1 pound could be from either the first (1939-49) tax issue or or the third (1959-61), depending on the watermark. The first is watermarked with a crown and Arabic F; the third with UAR. The 500 mills has to be from the first. Number 34 or 34a, depending on whether the watermark is upright or sideways. The 1 pound is 35 or 49. Feltus places values of $10.00 on the 1 pound, less on the others.


The 200 m looks to be a Palestine revenue "The Second Bilinual Issue," 1948. It's overprinted on the 1939-49 tax issue. Feltus number 109; $12.00 mint, $9.00 used.---34 (34a if watermark sideways). Feltus doesn't talk about it, but extensive studies have been made of overprint varieties on the Palestine overprints, in case you're interested in flyspecking.

Back with more in a few minutes.

Anne

Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Feb-27-07 at 12:57:51 PST   Listings
Rainer: The main reference on Egyuptian revenues is Peter Feltus's book, which is considerably out of date (1982). His value structure is not the most user-friendly

Here goes:
1) I can't identify it in Feltus, which may mean it's more recent or not Egyptian. My knowledge of Arabic is mimimal, but I'm not sure I can make out a "msr" anywhere.

2)The 1 poound could be from either the first (1939-49) tax issue or or the third (1959-61), depending on the watermark. The first is watermarked with a crown and Arabic F; the third with UAR. The 500 mills is from the first.
The 200 m looks to be a Palestine revenue "(The Second Bilinual Issue," 1948. It's overprinted on the 1939-49 tax issue. Feltus number 109; $12.00 mint, $9.00 used. 200m----33 (33a if the watermark is sideways or 48; 500 m---34 (34a if watermark sideways); 1 pound 35 or 49. Feltus places values of $10.00 on the 1 pound, less on the others.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3434 ) on Feb-27-07 at 12:03:31 PST   Listings
hmmm.... my last was directed to JayWild
Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:49:22 PST   Listings
Just heard on the news that the rate commission recommended a hike to 41¢ (another prime number!) which could happen as early as May! Also heading for approval is a ''forever'' stamp that remains good for first class postage even when hoarded through future rate hikes.

Bob in WA
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:44:54 PST   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

IMHO, China (mainland) is a major factor in today's global economy. It has both monetary and human resources. It has a huge internal market. It is NOT WASTING its resources like United States. I hope our government will wake up and realize that other countries are growing and we are NOT. I wonder what it will look like if someone compares the achivements and news (good or bad) by each country for last 20 years.

PC
Posted by bjornmu   ( 888 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:26:48 PST   Listings
NOIP: I wonder what kind of mirrors this scanner has been equipped with. :-) The seller of this cover usually doesn't have any pictures, so this may be a first attempt.
Posted by jaywild   ( 923 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:20:35 PST   Listings
NOIP… The Stock Market is certainly taking a nose dive today, triggered apparently by a panic on the Shanghai exchange. It will be interesting to see how this plays out—and a good way to see just how important China is as a factor in the new global economy.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3434 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:18:09 PST   Listings

- How did your 2c Liberty Bulk Rate item turn out? The other one that I won also had an enclosure. I was surprised to find, when I put it away, that it was my first example of a 2-cent Liberty Bulk Rate cover.

Jeff

Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:17:48 PST   Listings
littlesky -

Try here. Alway google real names and they will appear. I didn't go any further than this as it was the first return when searching for - Sir John Conroy.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/mbrown/men/conroy_bio.html

Have fun. I guess you followed through on determining where Tunbridge Wells is located. Then you could research where the Duchess of Kent resided at that time, then you could determine whether Mr Nye used Fedex Overnight or UPS 2nd Day. )'>)
Roger
Posted by bjornmu   ( 888 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:14:58 PST   Listings
Bryan, no reason to stay in the closet! Unless that's where all your stamps are. :-)

Seriously, I can't answer your question, but should point out that your 'letter' image is missing, or you used the wrong file name to point to it.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:12:00 PST   Listings
Jeff

If I won that block, I will also keep it as block of 8. I like large block.

PC
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:11:20 PST   Listings
jaywild -
Thanks for your comments.
BTW - Kona makes coffee, Columbia makes a hot drink! )'>)

Pro - I consider the post "free advertising" without spending a penny, eh?

Roger
Posted by little*sky   ( 162 ) on Feb-27-07 at 11:06:39 PST   Listings
hi, my name is bryan, i'm a closet philatelist.

i have a cover and letter that defy adequate research on google. the cover is a december 1836 stampless royal franked [red crown, free] addressed to the owner of a shop in tunbridge wells. [search ebay for tunbridge, very popular antique wood items]. the letter reads "sir john conroy requests that mr nye will send 2 more of the puzzles for her royal highness the duchess of kent". anyone know what a cover like this should be priced at? is the royal connection noteworthy?


cover



reverse



letter

Posted by jaywild   ( 923 ) on Feb-27-07 at 10:41:57 PST   Listings
Er—Columbia machines, not Columbian. Columbian machines make coffee.

J

Posted by jaywild   ( 923 ) on Feb-27-07 at 10:40:18 PST   Listings
Rainer… You can buy a junked Mercedes!!

J

Jeff S… The cancel is from one of the “hand-powered” Columbian machines, not rare at all, in fact quite unremarkable, except that the stamp happened to be one of the offset types. Not exceptional either, but one I did not have on cover. I recently bought another similar Columbia cancel that was franked with a 634A.

peterc8888… Some translations are in order—

“Unchecked” means “I looked this lot over from top to bottom and pulled out anything of any value whatsoever.”
”No faults” means there are no major earthquake faults running through any of the items.

J

Roger… You are a true pioneer, blazing your own trail. That makes for the best studies in this whole field.

lloydstamps… This isn’t the place to go into detail, but I have had more than my share of grief from APS, directed at me quite personally, out of what, to me, are pretty flaky motives. (viz—I have made no secret of what I consider APS’s less than honorable decisions regarding eBay and SWC.) So it is difficult for me to see bristling remarks such as yours as anything but an extension of the ongoing unpleasantness—but again, this is no place to hash that over. Suffice it to say that I am no longer a member of APS, by my own decision. Let peace reign throughout the land…

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3434 ) on Feb-27-07 at 10:34:10 PST   Listings

22028 - You might wish to try posting your question here

It looks like an interesting place to wade through.

Jeff

Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Feb-27-07 at 10:32:27 PST   Listings
Rainer -- I don't know anything about Egyptian revenues, sorry, so I can't comment on the authenticity or value of the items you showed us. Regardless, however, feel perfectly free to order a new Mercedes. You'd look sharp in a 2007 SLK280 V6 Roadster.

Bob in WA
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-27-07 at 10:27:28 PST   Listings
Roger Not to mention his prices IMHO a little on the high side.
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-27-07 at 10:10:31 PST   Listings
Uuummm postlynx -
Your feedback?
Why bother about other sales sites?

Roger
Posted by peetah   ( 465 ) on Feb-27-07 at 10:09:06 PST   Listings
due2cents Thanx !
Posted by postlynx   ( 4 ) on Feb-27-07 at 09:55:27 PST   Listings
Hi, I´ve found a great site www.stampbus.blogspot.com with many links for free stamp advertising and even on-line stampcatalogues. Great for promoting our stores without spending a penny
Posted by geokster   ( 830 ) on Feb-27-07 at 09:49:21 PST   Listings
Hi Vinnysf:

If you mark them on the back in indelible ink with something to the effect "COPY" or "FAKE" that is exactly what eBay recommends. And you are to be commended for your honesty.

George
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-27-07 at 09:16:42 PST   Listings
Pro -
When you check the "1889" style cancecls, they could be Ste Croix. I'm looking for one from that town used prior to October 1898, preferably in 1897. There is one recorded use in November 1893 when it appears deCoppet made the cancel for the opening of the Yverdon-Ste.Croix Railway. There are no recorded uses again until 1897 and that may be an incorrect date! Good searching. I look forward to your results.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-27-07 at 08:38:02 PST   Listings
Hutch -
That's sort of funny. As I interpret the 4 cases, only one really has to do with sales fraud on eBay. The other three cases are cases where eBay/Paypal are in effect witnesses to off-site fraud or crime.

If eBay can only come up with 4 cases, and two are in the UK, I can't think much effort is being made. The regular update will probably include the announcement - "No fraud activity has been detected by the Global Law Enforcement Operations Team during the past six weeks. Please continue to shop on eBay as there is no recent evidence of fraud. Do not use any payment method other than Paypal !"

Roger
Posted by cwhutch   ( 626 ) on Feb-27-07 at 07:30:24 PST   Listings
Good morning.
I hope this is a regularly updated page. I have sent many many spoofs to ebay in the last 8 years and I always wated to know what happened.
http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/law_case_study.html

Hutch
Posted by 22028   ( 1565 ) on Feb-27-07 at 07:27:34 PST   Listings
Who's having some knowledge on Egyptian Revneues?

Can I order a new Mercedes or is it junk?
http://fuchs-online.com/auction/revenue-egypt-1.jpg
http://fuchs-online.com/auction/revenue-egypt-2.jpg
http://fuchs-online.com/auction/revenue-egypt-3.jpg
http://fuchs-online.com/auction/revenue-egypt-4.jpg
http://fuchs-online.com/auction/revenue-egypt-5.jpg
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Feb-27-07 at 07:21:14 PST   Listings

Roger

Merci. J'aime sous peu, des réponses précises aux questions ! ) '>)
Je suis très heureux vous ai toujours votre collection. Le prochain poteau est très long mais le point principal est que j'ai trouvé une annulation 1889 très rare, et elle entrera dans mon exhibit.


Jam

Il est bon de vous voir, mon ami.


Knud, Mitchell, rclwa, Anne

OK
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-27-07 at 07:16:30 PST   Listings
Peetah

If you look at the example HERE-BERN
If you look closely at the Shape inside the CDS you will see what kinda of looks like an old Razor blade, if you are old enuf to remember what those were.

Photo from Rogers Exhibit.
Posted by peetah   ( 465 ) on Feb-27-07 at 07:00:17 PST   Listings
Swiss collectors or anyone else...please describe what a razor cancel is..... with a picture would be even more helpful.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-27-07 at 06:28:06 PST   Listings
Good day all.

Z is for Zavodovski Island.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3434 ) on Feb-27-07 at 05:55:26 PST   Listings

JayW - what was so special about the Mount Vernon Illinois machine cancel cover you bought a couple of weeks ago?

Jeff

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3434 ) on Feb-27-07 at 05:20:32 PST   Listings

Peter - if mine I would keep it as a block of 8.

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1250 ) on Feb-27-07 at 04:36:41 PST   Listings
In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s n interesting cancel from an Indiana town where the “Z” is backwards, Swayzee.


:8^(

Jim L.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1250 ) on Feb-27-07 at 04:35:50 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


malolo
Congrats on the addition to your exhibit and thanks for sharing it here.

onlygoodstuff5
Could you post a link to a scan of the Zeppelin post card?
The instructions are in the “Yellow Boxes.”



In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s n interesting cancel from an Indiana town where the “Z” is backwards, http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/jim_lawler/Stamp%20Z/backwardZ.jpg>Swayzee.

Jim L.
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Posted by vinnysf   ( 346 ) on Feb-27-07 at 02:20:32 PST   Listings
i wanna sell my fake provisional and ebay and APS guidelines say that the item must be marked but they don't say how or what kind of mark. do i put an "F" for forgery, do i spell it out, do i put a black cloverleaf on the stamp, do i put an "x" on the back? what kind of marking that wont be mistaken as a concellation?
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 245 ) on Feb-27-07 at 01:55:20 PST   Listings
Sheryll,
I think that our society has a good collection of that magazine.
Since today it's our monthly auction, I'll go there. Tell me the number of the magazine (if you have it) and the article needed and I'll photocopy it.
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Feb-27-07 at 00:17:56 PST   Listings
Milenko - Thanks for the joke.

BTW, do you have access to old copies of L'Echo de la Timbrologie? Specifically, the 1949 issue?

S2
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 22:47:44 PST   Listings
Linda

Thanks. This may be the case. I will ask the seller.


PC
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 322 ) on Feb-26-07 at 22:18:53 PST   Listings
PeterC I would take it to mean that stamps are sound, with no faults, however they have not been checked for watermark/ perforation varieties, dates, postmarks or any other variety that may exist on that issue. However, ebay rule NUMBER ONE... WHEN IN DOUBT, ask the seller !

good luck! Linda
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 22:06:19 PST   Listings
Mitch

Stamps have no faults since they are not checked.


PC
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-26-07 at 21:41:37 PST   Listings
Peter I would assume if the seller was honest it would mean that the stamps had not been typed or fly-specked but they were in good condition.
Unchecked I think usually means; "are you stupid enough to believe these stamps have been laying around for decades and no one bothered to check them"
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 21:15:12 PST   Listings
What do UNCHECKED and NO FAULTS mean when they're used together?

PC
Posted by lloydstamps   ( 547 ) on Feb-26-07 at 20:36:35 PST   Listings
Jaywild (Jim): Yes, I was a Director-at-Large for four years (1997-2001) and Secretary for four years (2001-2005) of the APS. But I am not now an officer, employee, staffer, or committee member, nor am I running for any office this year. At the last APS-sponsored show, I didn't even get an "Ex-Board" ribbon I concede your points on FDCs, and perhaps I misread or misinterpreted your comments, but my comments can in no way be taken as coming from the APS, above, below or at the belt.
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-26-07 at 20:35:54 PST   Listings
jaywild -
Thanks! It has been an intersting journey with very few road maps so accumulating was in order from the very beginning. Occasionally I see parts of a Swiss razor collection and realize he has probably paid dearly for all the items while perusing dealer boxes. There is an item on eBay right now that I will bid on, and it is expensive. It will go directly into the exhibit as it was used during a period of limited use for the device. If there are other bids, nobody will be bidding for the razor. One advantage of bidding on items where then other bidders are buying for a different reason is that the eventual resale is guaranteed at a fair price. many of my razor examples will have to be sold in Switzerland where they MAY be appreciated. The stamps have no value, the value is all in the total picture of origin, destination, cleanliness, and special markings. Needless to say I hope internet selling increasaes and more people decide to collect razor cancels. LOL

Roger
Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Feb-26-07 at 20:26:35 PST   Listings
Just received the latest issue (April) of Scott Stamp Monthly today, and there are a couple of articles of special interest to some here. The cover article is a 4-page color illustrated writeup of triangular stamps! I was especially interested in a footnote at the very end, stating: On a related subject, the design theme for the 2008 Scott catalog covers is nonrectangular stamps.

The other article of interest here, also color illustrated, is on Tiny covers, over 8 pages with some 2 dozen illustrations!

Bob in WA
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 19:51:57 PST   Listings
Burt(oggilby)

When do you think you will have the link to your ugly stamps?


PC
Posted by oggilby   ( 1190 ) on Feb-26-07 at 19:30:38 PST   Listings
Back from bowling & cleanig Mom's driveway (not as bad of a task as last week's ice)

NOIP--Spacefillers also deserve love and attention. I'm as proud of my "uglies" as any thing else I have. Maybe it's because I'm an accumulator. My stock book of less than perfect 19th century US is my pride and joy. Ugly stamps need a home!

Hi Anne!--the fathers-in-law's estate is settled and all of the errant brothers are somewhat happy. They might have been happier if they had stayed in touch with their dad! We now have a summer home in SW MI.
Posted by bwiphilately   ( 340 ) on Feb-26-07 at 19:17:05 PST   Listings
My contribution to the Z topic is two Jamaican First Flight Zeppelin covers which flew on the Hindenburg on its May 12, 1936 maiden return flight to Germany. This cover from Jamaica to Scotland was cancelled at Kingston on May 2 and routed through New York to Lakehurst, NJ where it received the Lakehurst zeppelin cachet. A Franfurt datestamp of May 14 appears on the reverse (flight duration was 49.5 hours). From there, the cover went onward to Scotland.

This registered cover from Jamaica to London is franked with an additional two pence to pay the registration fee and was routed to Lakehurst in a similar fashion.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-07 at 18:54:04 PST   Listings
Thanks for the Info Roger
my pile is a little over 300 now
have not compared to your exhibit lately.
The example you showed of the first De Coppett caught my eye tho.
I Have seen a couple of those Oddly boxed ones '89
Best part is my notes show me where , and that I am less than 24 days away from seeing them again. :-}
Guess I'll need those also to add to my Razor etc Pile. I need a few more Swiss Postals anyway.

Posted by jaywild   ( 921 ) on Feb-26-07 at 18:51:40 PST   Listings
Roger… That’s an amazing amount of work in a very short time, all in about ten years.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 18:51:15 PST   Listings
Ahem, Milenko.

One could go on.

...I'm not unmounted mint.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 18:47:54 PST   Listings
Melinko

Literally translated it would be

"As you are a philatelist, I hope you understand, I am not a virgin."

As a joke, it would probably be.

"As a philatelist, I hope you understand, I have been used."
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 245 ) on Feb-26-07 at 18:38:06 PST   Listings
Philatelic jokes are not common at all, so I think this one had to be posted. I'll let the translation to someone with better french skills than me.
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-26-07 at 18:17:07 PST   Listings
Pro -
SF450+ 18% commission + SF55 shipping = SF610 x .81 = $496.

Once I figured out I wanted the lot it was quite difficult to "guess a bid", the opening was SF 150. I only knew about the single 1889 card, so what else was in the collection? I guessed a bid of $5.00 each and added $100 for good luck. LOL. It is certainly worth what I paid, as it has items that are first or last known uses, so not a random accumulation, but at the same time not seconds either. I'm very intrigued to see if I can discover the name of the consignor. Maybe there is more information I can get from him.

I missed on two 1889 cancels on stamps, which would have raised my ownership to four.

There was one cover lot which is the earliest known use of the 1900 series razor cancels, I don't think anyone knows that except me so it didn't figure into the bidding. It had 3-UPU blue 25 centimes stamps and a blue 25 centime Standing Helvetia. It opened at SF200, I bid SF450 (last of the big spenders). but it went for SF1700. Not even close to a DANGIT, call it a BLOWOUT. LOL. Anyway I can report the date to the keeper of dates, and it will be added to the list.

Roger
Posted by onlygoodstuff5   ( 775 ) on Feb-26-07 at 18:04:57 PST   Listings
hubby has a zepplin!!!a very unique postcard and stamp. the stamp is a 65 cent baby zepplin. has a picture of statue of liberty on left, on top center - a picture of zepplin....then the stamp on the right hand side.

first pan american flight 6-30--1930 I think. it's in the ac roessler book.
===================================================
03:06:32 PST Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s a Zeppelin cover click here.


Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-26-07 at 18:03:32 PST   Listings
Jim -
I'll try briefly to remember as it is quite convoluted.
Prehistory - During the 1930's my mother was a school girl in England whose class wrote penpal letters to a girls school in Switzerland. After WWII, which disrupted the correspondence, the two young women restarted biannual letter writing. Each of the letters from Switzerland came with the complete sets of Pro Juventute, or Pro Patria stamps. My brother and I alternated who got what, and the stamps went into our collections.
1980 - I moved to SF rediscovered the old albums in a footlocker and combined the collections and visited a stamp shop. I got hooked again as the owner was very friendly allowing me to look through pages and pages of collections. Of course I bought "much stuff". he suggested I specialize more, so I picked GB and Switzerland until I finally only had a few hole to fill in each album. Where to go next?
Circa 1990 - Exchange correspondence with Strubel expert, and discover the possibility of finding rarities within US dealer stock, since Scott descriptions lead to inaccurate pricing and identification.
1993 - Move to Hawaii. All collecting stops! Not possible to browse collections or dealer stock.
1998- EBay becomes known to me and I discover I can again browse individual stamps and make purchases based on incorrect ID or just "good value". Finally I reach the point where stamps by themselves aren't so interesting, but how they were used is intriguing.
2000 - Communicate with Swiss collector who is visiting Hawaii and we meet in Honolulu. He encourages me to take a look at the start of his razor collection and after two days of talking Swiss philately, he GIVES it to me. It was very basic, but had me hooked after I found some undescribed razor cancels on eBay. The search was on.
2004 - He convinces me to exhibit (128 pages) at ROMPEX, so I have to organize my accumulation, which makes me fully aware of the "holes" in my collection.
2005 - Find many more items, and learn to ask certain sellers on eBay if they can keep their eyes open for me. I add to my exhibit and rewrite it for Mega-Event, Madison Square Garden. I get in contact with a couple of fellow collectors in Switzerland.
2006 - With the thought of exhibiting in Switzerland I reduce my exhibit to 64 pages and exhibit in San Francisco. Exhibiting in Switzerland seems to have major hurdles, so I don't pursue that avenue.
2007 - Decide I need to find (and spend the money if necessary) specific items to complete the deCoppet story. Correspondence with my friend in Switzerland leads me to find rare specific items such as those below. Not only are philatelic items interesting, but we become aware that deCoppet and Güller had influence internationally and no person has ever studied the connections.
At this point I have the material to rewrite and include the many new "rare" items to my exhibit, possibly raising it one level to Gold. Then my goal will be to exhibit in Switzerland non-competitively, if that is the only way I can do it.

Let's see? I didn't mention that this area has been so lightly studies that I could write articles for my society journal for a few years, add to the razor cancel knowledge base, and then expand into the international use of Güller cancels, etc, etc. Can't wait to retire as most of the work will be mental and not necessarily financial. Maybe this is the reason so many philatelists are grey haired and curmudgeons. They finally have the opportunity to follow leads and spend time on esoteric paths not profitable in the Real World.

Roger

That should keep Michel busy for a while translating the above. )'>)
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-07 at 17:59:27 PST   Listings
Roger What did the 90 razors sell for?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 17:26:10 PST   Listings
Roger

Fascinating explanations and history.

Can you remind us as to why you "got into" razor cancels in the first place.
Posted by jaywild   ( 921 ) on Feb-26-07 at 17:05:18 PST   Listings
Bob in WA… Your point is precisely why I said “almost never worth anywhere near what was paid for them”, and I figured you if anyone would know what I meant, and you did.

J

It is only by purest chance and accident that some of the silver ingot crap sold many years ago appreciated over rock-bottom simply because the price of silver rose completely unforeseen.

And no, your cover is quite nice, tiny smudge and straight edge notwithstanding…

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-26-07 at 17:05:14 PST   Listings
Some of you may have viewed my exhibit: DeCoppet Cancels of Switzerland.

An auction lot in the most recent Roelli auction was described as a “collection of 90 razor cancels on covers and cards”. A fellow Swiss cancel collector viewed the lot and told me that on the very last page (It should have been on the first page!) was this card, along with a 1973 expert’s note stating it was only the third example ever seen of this “unknown” cancel ( “Three known” examples on cover was the number repeated in a 1999 Swiss journal.).

We now know the device was made by Frederic deCoppet for a demonstration in October 1889 to the Swiss PO of his new swivel-head mechanism. His patent, No.251, was recorded on February 21, 1889. (The Swiss patent office had only opened in late 1888.) A few more examples of this device have been found, of which I have two on stamps to go along with my new card.

I believe deCoppet made this Schweizerhof Hotel cancel to substantiate his patent claim prior to making a similar device later in the year for his PO department demonstration. I can not prove this theory, though my friend in Switzerland now believes it to be true and is researching the sequence in Güller proof books. This hotel canceler was manufactured by Güller as were later razor cancelers.

DeCoppet was obviously working diligently during the decade of the 1890’s refining his invention and finally wrote to the PO in early 1898 that he was ready to deliver a set of cancels for a prolonged test. The post office agreed and accepted a set of five cancelers for five of its district post offices - Geneve, Lausanne, Bern, Neuchatel, and Basel. They were issued on October 8, 1898 and saw first uses on October 10.

This one delivered to the Basel PO has a first known use of Oct. 12, but it broke on Oct. 20, limiting its use to only 8 days in 1898! This example is dated 18 October.

On October 24, 1898, a second distribution was made to the five other district offices - Aarau, Luzern, Zurich, St. Gallen, and Bellinzona. Bellinzona’s canceler (lower card in scan) is not known used until 2 November (this card 9 November), and was recalled seven days later on 16 November. (It was used only 14 days in 1898.)

The maximum 1898 use for any razor canceler is 39 days (Bern). All cancelers were recalled for modifications on November 16, 1898, and not returned to the post office department until April 19, 1899. Needless to say all 1898 uses of a deCoppet razor cancelers are difficult to find.

Jumping ahead a couple of years, it became apparent after many breakages that the designed spring mechanism allowing a universal-type rotation at the head of the canceler was not satisfactory. DeCoppet experimented with different springs, then sent four new cancelers to the post office department for testing on September 7, 1900. These looked different by having only 8 bars above and below the date bridge. The Basel device illustrated here is very difficult to find even though it was used until 1906!

The mechanical changes proved successful over time and during late 1901 it was determined to have a complete set of 11 made incorporating all updated changes. The above Basel device was returned to deCoppet to be used as a model on January 15, 1902. By late June deCoppet had sent a complete set of 11 “Type 2” cancelers to the post office for a new one year trial. They are all known used during the first week of July. This Bellinzona canceler ( lower card dated 29 July 1902) is the second rarest of all outgoing deCoppet cancelers - the clerks didn’t like the mechanism, and thought the device too heavy, so didn’t use it except when ordered! This is the only example I’ve ever seen and it came undescribed in the auction lot.

Based on the experiences of this second canceler series, the post office signed a contract with deCoppet in April 1903 to provide 10,000 cancelers for all first class post offices. He couldn’t possibly make them, so the manufacture of these devices was subcontracted out to Güller, the Swiss cancel manufacturer since 1864.

A quick look indicates at least 17 items will be integrated into my exhibit. They add significantly to both completeness and rarity. )’>) Presently I hope to rewrite and expand the timeline version of my exhibit and show again later this year.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-26-07 at 17:03:29 PST   Listings
Michel -
Merci. J'aime sous peu, des réponses précises aux questions ! ) '>)
Je suis très heureux vous ai toujours votre collection. Le prochain poteau est très long mais le point principal est que j'ai trouvé une annulation 1889 très rare, et elle entrera dans mon exhibit.

Salut Roger
Posted by jaywild   ( 921 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:59:10 PST   Listings
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING FOR HIS COUNTRY…

In light of the fraud investigation MSNBC published today, and discussed at length on this board, I would implore people to email the New York Attorney General’s office here (ignore the message about “Active-X controls”) and tell them you are outraged that nothing has been done about this crook operating in their state. The message needs only to be brief and to the point, mentioning the MSNBC article would be most effective.

Additionally, get your friends to send messages too. This is a very important issue, and if resolved it will #1 stop one vicious crook from fleecing unsuspecting stamp collectors and #2 serve a fair warning to any other scamsters as to what might await them if they try the same monkey business.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:33:30 PST   Listings
Jim and David

I have asked the seller for a back scan to see everything better.


PC
Posted by dbenson   ( 7903 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:33:13 PST   Listings
peter, yes, it appears to be the cancel in the corner, doesn't really matter as there is a scuff between the two righthand stamps anyway.

Upside down, or sideways cancels occur all the time.

IO,

It wouldn't make much difference whether a block of 6 or 2 blocks of 4, most better collectors would shy away from it anyway as parcel cancels are considered a NO NO,

David B.
Posted by abt1950   ( 224 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:29:14 PST   Listings
mendelbrot: Michel, it's great to see your posts. They're too far in between. Glad you've still got your Liberia collection. The Ashmuns were spectacular.

Anne
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:22:26 PST   Listings
D2

Can write faster than me and has greater selling experience.
On second thoughts I may, if they were mine, chop it to six and consign the two on the right to "hole fillers".

Upside down is no problem. It is a rotten cancel either way up.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:16:21 PST   Listings
Jim and David

I'm not sure whether the top right stamp is really missing the UR corner or not. It may be hidden by the dark cancel.


PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:11:15 PST   Listings
David

It seems to me that the cancel is upside down. Is it common in GB stamps?


PC
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:10:58 PST   Listings
Peter

Without pricing them.
Top right stamp missing perfs.
Bottom right stamp, scuffed corner.
Image too small to see creases.
Cancel sucks.
Apart from those comments, I'd say keep as block rather than dismembering.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7903 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:07:10 PST   Listings
peter, colours look OK but the heavy parcel cancel detracts from it. IMO it would be virtually unsellable as a block of 8 but possibly it may sell if broken into 2 blocks of 4 and that would alleviate the problem with the top right hand corner stamp. I would estimate the left block at about $35-40 and the right block of 4 at $20-25. However some buyers that use percentages of cat. value for their valuation might value it higher,

David B.

David B.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 16:02:33 PST   Listings
Jim and David

Here is the image of the SG214:

SG214

PC
Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:51:11 PST   Listings
Jaywild -- HERE is my used 8¢ Pan-Am. I hope the smudge cancel and straight edge don't mean it's a spacefiller!

Michel (mendelbrot) -- Heartwarming to see your presence here again. I can't raise the pictures on your ''me'' page, but hope they might be restored some day. Or is it my computer at fault? Can anyone else see them?

Bob in WA
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:47:53 PST   Listings
Neglect previous it was for 124.
214 is a lot easier.
Though these are 2004 values.

Single £125
Block of 4 £600
Used on cover £750

Same principles apply to cancels and SG mark-up.

Michel

Il est bon de vous voir, mon ami.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7903 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:45:55 PST   Listings
peter, if you mean the QV 1s. Green & Carmine there is no way that anyone can value it withour knowing what condition the block is in and if the colours show any sign of fading and how heavy the cancel is. If it is in perfect condition it would be worth in the $100's but if any fading, heavy cancel or damage then it would be in the $10's.

David B.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:45:40 PST   Listings
Jim(iomoon)

I guess your post is referring to SG124 (the wrong one I posted originally) not SG214 (this is the One Shilling stamp in green and red).



PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:42:22 PST   Listings
Jim(jaywild)

Your explanation on used Q10 > Q12 does make sense. If mint Q10 > mint Q12, it will mean something else.


PC
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:39:44 PST   Listings
Peter

I'm glad Alec thinks I may have the answer, but I don't.

These somewhat confusing stamps are as follows.
J80(3) Chestnut used single £2,500
J80(2) Pale chestnut single used £2,500

J80(3) Block of 4, unpriced used.
J80(3)c,d, 12 doubled on stamps DE and DF £250, e watermark inverted £400.
To qualify for this "abnormal", stamps must be postmarked prior to 30th October 1872.

If these have undated cancels, they may be impossible to certify and anything less than a perfect SON cancel will grossly reduce the value.
On top of that you can probably reduce SG values to 1/3 to get a realistic view of their market price.
Posted by rclwa   ( 960 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:31:49 PST   Listings
Jaywild -- I agree with what you said, and I seem to recall that about the only exception was back in 1981 or thereabouts when silver got so high, with that big hoarding scheme, that some of those medals and coins were actually salable at a decent profit! I wonder if such is possible today, with record silver prices, if some of that junk was picked up when it was at its lowest point a few years back? I don't know the numbers or time frames, but it's an interesting conjecture. Even so, probably the best case would be breaking even, considering the degree of overpricing.

Spacefillers -- I am in the habit of removing damaged stamps from kiloware and tearing them in half and consigning to the wastebasket, but that is a stamp that might be worth 5¢ if perfect! When it comes to classics and much scarcer items, I would not do such a thing. A genuine stamp still allows a collector to study and appreciate the design, look at the engraving through high magnification, count the perfs, check watermarks, etc, even if some purists think it should be consigned to the flames. I bet there are many beginners who would love to have, say, a real $1 Tranny filling that space, even if it is off-center, with a somewhat heavy cancel, a crease in one corner, two pulled perfs, a tear, and a horrible major thin from an old dynamite hinge! I would much rather see a youngster or impecunious collector take pleasure in owning it than destroy it and declare that no self-respecting collector should settle for such wretched condition. There are many who truly love the hobby that will never be able to afford even fine copies of many expensive classics, who can still get much pleasure and information from spacefillers.

Bob in WA
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:27:44 PST   Listings
Jim(iomoon)

It should be SG214 not SG124.


PC
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:19:36 PST   Listings
malolo 1
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:18:12 PST   Listings
Jim(iomoon)

I have a question on GB stamp that Alec thinks that you may have the answer. I want to know the CV for a used block of 8 SG124.


PC
Posted by jaywild   ( 921 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:16:58 PST   Listings
peterc8888… It is likely that parcel post rates made the $1 stamp much likelier to be used than the 25¢ stamp. A similar situation exists with the Pan-American issues of 1901. The 8¢ stamp is worth far more used than all the rest combined, simply because genuine usage of an 8¢ stamp was much less common than use of the others in that set.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by bjornmu   ( 887 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:12:29 PST   Listings
IO, sounds like a bug. Functions that are supposed to give a positive value typically return -1 to indicate error or no value available. They have apparently taken this -1 literally. At work, I have myself caused a machine to reboot on an innocent command because our software did just the same thing....
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 15:05:10 PST   Listings
It seems that wunderground has finally got their act together and realized a negative humidity is a practical impossibility.
Their data now show NA - not available.
In reality, the humidity is about 4% at the moment. (Temperature 73F, dew point -7.5F)
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:55:18 PST   Listings
Jim(iomoon)

I almost want to post the same thing that people like cows more but decided not to post it.

Now, I need to get 30 cows (Q10) to pair with the 30 fruit trees I just got.


PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:48:02 PST   Listings
Jim(iomoon)

Thanks for the price. Since Q12 has actually less issues than Q10, it seems logical that Q12 will worth more.


PC
Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:45:27 PST   Listings
Peter

Maybe people like cows more than fruit trees?
Posted by jaywild   ( 921 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:40:15 PST   Listings
oldcity… The Franklin Mint has long been known as the scourge of people with more money than common sense. Anything marketed as “collectible” is in reality little more than flypaper for the naïve. They are almost never worth anywhere near what was paid for them.

This statement is a blanket condemnation, an indictment, or whatever anyone wants to label it. It was meant to be severe and unequivocal in its criticism.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:37:56 PST   Listings
Q12 = $45.
1,053,273 produced.
Q10 = $50
2,117,793 produced.
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:29:42 PST   Listings
Does anyone have the Scott 2007 price for used US stamp Q12 ($1 Parcel Post)? How many of it are issued? Also, can anyone tell me why Q10 is usually worth more than Q12?


PC
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:24:18 PST   Listings
1covers

I can only speak for myself regarding collecting spacefillers. 1. I like to have multiple copies of the same stamp. Getting all good copies will be too expensive. 2. I don't have the expertise in grading stamps. 3. From what I have seen so far, spacefillers are resellable just like the good copies. 4. I rather have a spacefilller of a stamp than none at all. 5. I wish I will find something valuable from spacefillers.


PC
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 322 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:17:18 PST   Listings
Oldcity, unfortunately when Franklin produced those covers, (Bicentennial and other Celebrations), they rarely used a set of stamps from each country, but just the lowest value of each set, making the philtelic value of the collection very low indeed. The original price was as a 'souvenir' item only and never intended for the serious stamp collector, or for re-sale at a future date.

Linda
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:15:49 PST   Listings
OldCity
I also think those I noted below have been on the www for a long time.
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:15:24 PST   Listings
Third time has it's charm!

Here is the front of the moneyletter.

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:12:39 PST   Listings
Here is the back.

Posted by oldcityantiques   ( 475 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:11:43 PST   Listings
MORE OF THE BICENTENNIAL COLLECTION - The Franklin Philatelic Society - United States of America; The French Republic; The Grand Duchy of Luxembourg; The Republic of Nicaragua; New Caledonia; The Grenadines of Saint Vincent; Cyprus; Bolivia; Gabon Republic; The Bailiwick of Jersey; The United Kingdom; Monaco; Republic of Maldives; Ireland; The Netherlands; The Comoro Islands; Republic of Korea; Israel; French Polynesia; St. Lucia; Antigua; Republic of Niger; Republic of Rwanda; Republic of Togo; The Isle of Man; Belize; Kingdom of Belgium. These are all in MINT condition. Also have the original receipt of purchase on two of these. Looking for information (any and all) as to value on the entire set. Any help appreciated. oldcityantiques
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:09:55 PST   Listings
Talking about damaged covers, I have more but here is two, which are interesting.

This philatelic cover was damaged by enemy hand, as the label "Durch Feindeinvirkung beschädigt" say. Here is the back.

This moneyletter has the same fate, I belive. It was sent first in February, 1945 and not only it was found empty (as far I can read), the reciever wasn't to be found too and it was returned. As far I can see, the missing stamp was a 30pf. stamp. href=http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5791/untitled4oa9.jpg>Here is the back.

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by breffington   ( 353 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:09:31 PST   Listings
Jaywild and Lloydstamps: I concur with Jaywild's thoughts that MANY if not MOST first day covers produced in the last 60 years are not valued very highly commercially. That's not to say they are not interesting and collectible if that is your bent. When they are being bought by dealers in lots for 10 to 25 cents each you know they are almost never going to be worth much more. So collect for fun and don't worry about the value. And they can be a lot of fun to prepare and send off to get a FDC cancel. Frank
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:06:07 PST   Listings
Oldcity

found this

W32) This is a Hardcover Collectible Album by the FRANKLIN PHILATELIC SOCIETY. Franklin's
collectibles have long been among the more famous of the collectible market. This album contains 89 Cacheted
and Unaddressed Covers issued as an international tribute to the American Revolution Bicentennial. Priced
way below the original cost at only $99.00

Sound like what you are looking At
Posted by oldcityantiques   ( 475 ) on Feb-26-07 at 14:00:16 PST   Listings
Looking for any information regards a collection of FIRST DAY OF ISSUE OFFICIAL COMMEMORATIVE STAMP of the United States of America - Bicentennial collection put out by The Franklin Philatelic Society - whole collection is BICENTENNIAL. Includes different countries, the Bahamas, etc. Very beautiful. Any information appreciated. oldcityantiques
Posted by 1covers   ( 1290 ) on Feb-26-07 at 13:57:45 PST   Listings
PC - Seems that there will always be somebody to purchase the floor sweepings at a price. I'll never understand the motivation ....
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 13:53:07 PST   Listings
Burt(oggilby)

With all those alterations going on, I think it is actullay a good thing that spacefillers are being collected.


PC
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 13:45:21 PST   Listings
z as Zagreb - During WW2 Croatia was a German puppet state but they issue some beautyful stamps.This stamp was issued in connection with a stamp exhibition! in Zagreb and is far the most beautyful of them all. It was issued in a minisheet too.

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 322 ) on Feb-26-07 at 13:28:32 PST   Listings
Knud nice item, well done, and I dont think it looks TOO bad!
Loved the photos, I viewed the whole lot, most interesting, and my favourite was the red mail boxes with snowdrifts.

Good work, George and others on the fraudulent stamps stories.

Linda
Posted by jaywild   ( 921 ) on Feb-26-07 at 13:15:01 PST   Listings
lloydstamps… I don’t understand how you consider that simple sentence an “indictment”. It merely stated, gently I might add, that most FDCs are not worth much, a fact no one familiar with FDCs would argue with. If you had read further on into my original post you would see that I then directed the questioner to the eBay stamps category where she could look up FDCs. That way she might find some she has are worth something, although I must add now that anyone who had a FDC collection (i.e. her father) and allowed it to deteriorate to the point of collecting tropical spotting probably didn’t consider it worth a whole lot, another indicator that what she has will be pretty hard to market.

As I recall you have had past associations with APS, as a director or board member or employee or consultant, is that not correct? Please clarify, and if I was in error on this point I will apologize for the mistake.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jackstay79   ( 0 ) on Feb-26-07 at 13:05:08 PST   Listings
iomoon---Jim what do you expect from the weather under the ground?

Bill B.

Posted by jaywild   ( 921 ) on Feb-26-07 at 13:04:52 PST   Listings
D2… Or a train attack!!

Knud-Erik… Nice find, by the way. I don’t think it looks so terrible, particularly if it is unique. (Nice snow pictures too—I looked through all of them on that website. Pretty amazing.)

Io… Negative humidity is just one more for the record books…

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by lloydstamps   ( 547 ) on Feb-26-07 at 13:04:34 PST   Listings
Jaywild: OK, sorry, I missed "generally," although I still think it's a rather sweeping indictment.

But how do you figure "APS strikes again, below the belt as usual…" I'm not an officer of the American Philatelic Society, nor do I serve on any committees. I do admit I'm a member, but so are many members of this board.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7903 ) on Feb-26-07 at 12:54:04 PST   Listings
Knuden,

luckily that one did not go via Johnno,

it would have been plastered by various handstamps explaining the damage was caused by a train wreck or aircraft attack,

David B.
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Feb-26-07 at 12:48:56 PST   Listings
knuden Congratulations! Bask in the warm glow of happiness, you paid the price for years learning.....now enjoy the champagne. :o)

George K Kudos to you too for sticking on GS like a self adhesive! It may seem a bit strange to say that as a positive, but the continued media attention IS a Pyrrhic victory of sorts. The more it happens, the smaller his pool of suckers.

Io Its Texas. There you can dream as big as you want and do the impossible, even negative humidity. :o)
Posted by oggilby   ( 1190 ) on Feb-26-07 at 12:29:27 PST   Listings
Greetings to all from a snow covered (5 inches) Central Maryland where cars were abandoned willy-nilly all over the place yesterday.

knuden--Great Snow! I haven't seen drifts like that in years!

Let me add my praises to George K., who I also have dealt with in the past.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7903 ) on Feb-26-07 at 12:26:41 PST   Listings
knuden,

well done, eagle eyes,

don't worry about the faults, your annotation will explain that a presumed unique item is only available in that condition. You should be able to clean some of the spots & creases and everything else you can blame on the conditions of the postal service at the time,

David B.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3432 ) on Feb-26-07 at 12:21:05 PST   Listings

IO - that's West Texas Baptist Dry!

Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 12:16:02 PST   Listings
This is a new one on me.
I didn't know you could have minus humidities.

Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-26-07 at 11:58:41 PST   Listings
Knud-Erik -
Congratulations an winning such a great item. This is a perfect example of eBay collecting, the opportunity to discover rarities unknown to the current experts and dealers. I'll bet the underbidder was very surprised to lose - a true DANGIT! for him. So there are two collectors who recognized the value of the item! LOL .

Roger
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 11:30:05 PST   Listings
Wow - I don't know what happend but it looks funny! :O)
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 11:21:16 PST   Listings
Whopee - I'm a happy camper!!
I have just got the message, I won this auction. Now I can hear someone grumble: "It's torn and dirty." :O) Well I don't care, the newpaper stamp correct used are scarce but on a Sudetenland wrapper it's unique (so far). I will see if I can clean it up a bit and it will go straight into my exhibit. :O)

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by peetah   ( 465 ) on Feb-26-07 at 11:14:16 PST   Listings
rolyrj Just tried it.....have to run now
Posted by rolyrj   ( 3 ) on Feb-26-07 at 11:06:39 PST   Listings
try rolyr at xtra dot co dot nz
cheers
Roly
Posted by peetah   ( 465 ) on Feb-26-07 at 11:01:45 PST   Listings
ROLYRJ You asked me to email you. This seems to be the only way I can let you know I am trying to. NOIP Anyone else able to pass this on, would be appreciated.
Posted by sayasan   ( 628 ) on Feb-26-07 at 10:43:10 PST   Listings
George - that's an excellent update on the Saratoga business. Kudos to you.
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-07 at 10:34:33 PST   Listings
George (geokster)
Thanks again for all your efforts.
Yes I remember those that took you to task.
I think that those who think getting ripped off buying stamps is the normal progression for novices are Happy
stamp dealers. (IMHO)

But as we all know. Just a Venue . Buyer Beware.
Posted by wiredstamps.com   ( 236 ) on Feb-26-07 at 10:31:34 PST   Listings
Who are the people selling junk these days?
Posted by geokster   ( 827 ) on Feb-26-07 at 10:28:58 PST   Listings
Hi Peter:

Thanks for the kind words. Not everyone agrees with you though, about it being a good thing to go after the crooks on eBay. I took a lot of heat for it on this very board when I used to post here regularly a long time ago. I was told to get a life (probably good advice), and that getting ripped off was part of the normal learning process for the fledgling philatelist.

I also recognize you, as one of the bidders I compete with all the time.

:-)

The SCADS site has recently put up the list of all the newer NARU'd IDs of the Saratoga gang. I would happily tell you the name of the well-known slimeb...er...individual behind all this criminal activity, but I don't want to see eBay shut down the chat board for "lack of activity" like they did the last time I did that several years ago.

George

Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 10:23:23 PST   Listings
George

I just notice that it should be SCADS not SACDS.


PC
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 10:20:06 PST   Listings
Billsey - Denmark in snow:

Picture 1.
Picture 2
Picture 3
Picture 4
Picture 5Picture 6

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by peterc8888   ( 301 ) on Feb-26-07 at 10:13:11 PST   Listings
George(geokster)

I recognized all those NARU'd ebay ids. I remembered that I had even asked Jim(jaywild) about peterpaul1969's listings since he had listed so many stamps suddenly and I felt something wrong with some of them. I had bidded them but I only bidded them as if they were faulty stamps with very low bid price so I had not won anything from peterpaul1969. If I have known about you, I would have asked you about those ebay ids.

I also recognize your ebay id since you are one of the few bidders who are very good in finding bargains (e.g. the 118 with missing perfs you just won recently) and I also bid your listings too. But not until now, I know who you are. It is great to see someone who is willing to put so much effort to prevent these frauds. Is the SACDS site still being updated with all these new NARU'd ids?

I also notice that you have added some identifiers to Robert's site. It is a great help to me and probably other beginners.


Peter(PC)
Posted by malolo   ( 836 ) on Feb-26-07 at 10:08:48 PST   Listings
Aloha Michel -

I have a question for you and maybe you can answer by typing "1" yes, "q" no.

Have you able to keep your Liberia collection?

I hope you are getting along OK, we miss your commentary here on Chat.

Roger
Posted by bjornmu   ( 887 ) on Feb-26-07 at 10:02:00 PST   Listings
Billsey, you call that "buried"? Bah, that doesn't even cover the ground completely. In the southernmost part of Norway, people have been trapped at home, literally unable to get out the door.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 09:53:47 PST   Listings
Billsey & K-E

Hate to be mean but we've already broken the daily high by 1F at 72F and it isn't noon yet!
Posted by billsey   ( 841 ) on Feb-26-07 at 09:41:27 PST   Listings
Knud-Erik, we woke up to being buried in snow as well. :-)
Posted by due2cents   ( 26 ) on Feb-26-07 at 09:34:07 PST   Listings
Many from Backinthe day
still peruse and post
The Venue has not changed tho
Posted by wiredstamps.com   ( 236 ) on Feb-26-07 at 09:29:48 PST   Listings
Correction: Is any still in here from back in the day?
Posted by wiredstamps.com   ( 236 ) on Feb-26-07 at 09:19:30 PST   Listings
Is anyone still the day? I just read the MSN article and I guess more people could have benefited from the likes of my infamous "#C5 on Foil" image.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Feb-26-07 at 08:52:14 PST   Listings
Michel Greetings! You have often been in my thoughs, as well. I do hope life is finding you comfortable.
I do hope someday you will join back in on thd board.
Mitchell
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 08:39:01 PST   Listings
Mendelbrot - Hi Michel. It's make me very happy to hear you are still around. I have thought lot about you and hope you will become better. You are not forgotten!!
Regards your friend from Denmark.

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 08:36:09 PST   Listings
saphilatelics - My mistake was when talking about a hotel in Danzig, there were talking about a hotel and hinterhaus.
I found another interesting note about Fleischergasse 69: "In der Fleischergasse Nr. 69 befand sich die Druckerei Julius Sauer, in der ein nicht unerheblicher Teil der Danziger Briefmarken hergestellt wurde." (In Fleischergasse 69 was the printer Julius Sauer, which a not insignificant part of the Danziger stamps was manufactured.)

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by soggy333   ( 54 ) on Feb-26-07 at 08:24:32 PST   Listings
vinny
Too bad you threw out your Scott catalogs! They are good for many things. When I am remounting a collection in the dry winter days, I put some Scott catalogs on top of the finished pages to keep the stamps from curling.
You never did say whether you acquired that local post stamp as a real one, and paid money for it. I think you found it in a junk lot and it cost nothing. When you do find something like that, the odds are a million to one against it being of any value. In that case you should not try to sell it unless you know exactly what it is.
Posted by mendelbrot   ( 45 ) on Feb-26-07 at 08:18:00 PST   Listings
qqqq
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 415 ) on Feb-26-07 at 07:57:14 PST   Listings
lavart/knuden
The address on the first cover makes no mention of a hotel. It reads "Fleischergasse 69, Hinterhaus" meaning Butcher's Alley No. 69, rear building (which I assume is analogous to say, "2nd floor", or "basement", apparently, some structure in the back of the main (facing the street) building. This is not uncommon in German apartment buildings of a certain vintage, you may pass through the front door, walk down a hallway and exit through a rear door into a courtyard, and that may be where the "Hinterhaus" was located.) To make a long story short, this is a residential address with specific information as to where in the building the person lived.
Posted by jaywild   ( 921 ) on Feb-26-07 at 07:39:00 PST   Listings
wdcatstar85… If you have questions about any stamp you find on eBay, put a link up here on the board and there are many people here who will give their professional opinions as to whether the stamp is genuine or not, or repaired or graced with a faked cancel. This board is an extraordinary resource, and it won’t cost you a dime.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by geokster   ( 827 ) on Feb-26-07 at 07:36:39 PST   Listings
While the MSNBC.com story was originally written up in 2002, this is an update to include the more recent ID's detocakes9/8834david (NARU'd in July 2006), ndp789 (expelled from StampWants.com in August 2006, and member98123/peterpaul1969 (NARU'd just last month.) I'm hoping that this can help get the NY Attorney General to stop covering up for this ctook, and take some long-needed action.

George
Posted by jaywild   ( 921 ) on Feb-26-07 at 07:36:09 PST   Listings
Everyone… This story, .linked first by Jeff Switt a while ago, is the culmination of a great deal of work by George Kopecky, as acknowledged in the article. He is well known to members of this board. We all owe him a great debt of thanks for single-mindedly pursuing this fraud, year in and year out, when eBay, APS and Elliot Spitzer (yep, same guy that wants to be President someday) ignored it.

If anyone has bought stamps or covers from 8834david, now is the time to come forward, because you’ve probably been had.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 07:28:25 PST   Listings
wdcatstar

You can confirm or allay your suspicions by reading through the SCADS site.
Posted by wdcatstar85   ( 216 ) on Feb-26-07 at 07:20:07 PST   Listings
With the report of the ebay stamp dealer fraud, I'm wondering how many of the stamps I bought off here are frauds. I'm pretty sure who the forger is. I'm afraid to buy anymore stamps off ebay.
Posted by zuni4   ( 2525 ) on Feb-26-07 at 07:16:34 PST   Listings
Z for Zuni. Thank you claghorn1p, eBay is terrible when it comes to Security. I'm a bookseller and did see that the MSNBC article was 2 hours old so more bad (repetitive) news for sellers.

Same thing with books!

Posted by taodave   ( 137 ) on Feb-26-07 at 06:56:51 PST   Listings
David B---

Many thanks for choosing my contribution as winner for the letter "Y." I do try to ferret out as much information as I can about the covers I own. Postal history appeals to me much more than the stamps franking the covers.

Despite my (by now long-forgotten) withdrawal from the alphabet competition quite a few letters ago following my third win, and despite a worrisome time squeeze (I'm trying to prepare a multi-frame exhibit of U.S. War Dept. for early May, and have barely begun), I will assume the responsibility for judging the Z's. Fire away, all!

taodave
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 410 ) on Feb-26-07 at 06:50:57 PST   Listings
zuni4 Old news. Scammers are everywhere for anything. It is very easy to steal a picture from another site and post it on eBay as if the item is for sale. This is not just stamps but anything.
Posted by zuni4   ( 2525 ) on Feb-26-07 at 06:34:58 PST   Listings
IS THIS OLD news re eBay Stamp forgeries?

Is eBay stamp racket the Net's stickiest scam?
MSNBC - 2 hours ago

"The scheme was exposed on MSNBC.com in 2002, in a two-part series looking at whether eBay adheres to its stated anti-fraud policy. ..."

Posted by iomoon   ( 1044 ) on Feb-26-07 at 06:23:20 PST   Listings
Good day all.

Z is for Zao.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3432 ) on Feb-26-07 at 05:57:17 PST   Listings

Mornin' - interesting link courtesy of Virtual Stamp Club to eBay stamp frauds

Jeff

Posted by 22028   ( 1561 ) on Feb-26-07 at 05:06:26 PST   Listings
Hider is my input for Z:
Iran/Persia, the Lion issue of 1875, eight Chahis bright yellow-green, A used strip of four, being a complete sheet in the first setting of the cliches, A-B-C-D. Rouletted vertically between stamps. Tied by three neat strikes of ZENDJAN 30/9 cancellations to a fragment of a letter.
http://fuchs-online.com/iran/images/04/10430a.jpg
Posted by grace2006grace   ( 37 ) on Feb-26-07 at 04:26:54 PST   Listings
AHA! Just found the yellow board. Will go there! What a great community you have here! Very professional and interesting. Thanks for being you. I'll get to work! (Ignore previous post--my mistake.)
Posted by grace2006grace   ( 37 ) on Feb-26-07 at 04:20:26 PST   Listings
Hi! I'm looking for advice. I'm in my late 50's and when I was a kid, my grandfather was a US postmaster and got me a stamp album. I had a blast filling it in as much as I could, and now I don't know what to do with it. It's at least 40 years old, but trying to figure out if anything is valuable in there looks like a daunting task. Then I'm afraid to certify they're not counterfeit, although I wonder if stamps that old are pretty likely to be ok? What should I do with this? Thanks for your expert advice.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1250 ) on Feb-26-07 at 03:06:32 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


In keeping with the "Z" theme here’s a Zeppelin cover click here.

Jim L.
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 01:51:26 PST   Listings
bjornmu - Denmark has been burried in snow for 4 days and are first now beginning to be normal yesterday. No mail since thirsday last week! :O(

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!
Posted by knuden   ( 2209 ) on Feb-26-07 at 01:49:24 PST   Listings
lavart - nice covers with an interesting story, as usual. :O)

Cover 1. Zelma is the first name of the lady and she was living at hotel Hinterhaus in the city of Danzig.
Cover 2. Dixie Clipper (Boeing B314) completes first transatlantic passenger flight, New York to Lisbon, Portugal, June 29, 1939. More to be found here.
Cover 3 was sent to Louny in Bohemia and Moravia.

K.E   I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by bjornmu   ( 887 ) on Feb-26-07 at 00:37:48 PST   Listings
Z is for Zweibrücken, which I just won. The name means "two bridges". This handstamp advertises a horse race with a 200,000M prize. The one on the stamp has the date inverted (not sure exactly what day), while the other has been put the right way. An unusual example of an error that was corrected.