eBay Chat: Stamps

Saving HTML pages: I've been doing that almost since the beginning. I always save the pages and the images (not always all images) of items I consider, and keep all that I win.

It used to be because I had a slow ISDN line at home, and instead of spening time online (which was slow and cost by the minute), I browsed eBay at work before going home, saved interesting items, then sent these in "bulk" to my home computer where I could study them off-line. After I got broadband and didn't have to worry, I still continued the practice.

I must have saved thousands of pages in Netscape, later Mozilla and never had a problem. I think Internet Expoder tries to create a "complete" page by including everything it references, including images, instead of just saving the HTML itself. Maybe this is configurable?

I also never have a problem saving the images. Firefox probably works quite similar to Mozilla.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 317

)

on Feb-11-07 at 21:58:46 PST

PeterC not allowed, and downright misleading. That seller should be reported.

Posted by jaywild ( 917

)

on Feb-11-07 at 21:27:17 PST

figmente… Aha—I thought it was only me that was having trouble with the “back button” on the browser. I downloaded ie7 some time ago, and only recently began having that problem. It can be very irritating…

Bob in WA… My Scott #4 is a proof. I don’t have a copy of either the #2 or the #4 regular issue. I see them frequently on eBay and the nice ones always command very high prices.

Jim

Posted by peterc8888 ( 299

) on Feb-11-07 at 21:13:06 PST

Is this allowed to do?

Ok or not

PC

Posted by mini*lindy ( 317

)

on Feb-11-07 at 21:12:24 PST

Bob in WA that new ruling on privacy was on the eBay announcements page a month or 2 ago. Apart from now not being able to check possible shill bidding, I like to check out my Bidders to see what else they are bidding on, especially those with, say less than 10 feedbacks, and if it is an expensive item, to see if they are perhaps just having a 'fun day' bidding on dozens of items. All around NOT a good move on eBays part, but I think its here to stay!!
Linda

Posted by stamphick! ( 334

) on Feb-11-07 at 20:38:17 PST

Bob in WA...I have no problem saving pages using Firefox 2.0.

Posted by rclwa ( 955

) on Feb-11-07 at 20:28:55 PST

bilbo -- I hadn't realized one can no longer save pages. As some have suggested, perhaps it varies with browser used. Hopefully it isn't permanent. I have frequently saved entire pages for future reference, since the darn things can only be searched back 30 days, and are completely gone after 90 days, even if you kept the number or a bookmark, not to mention sellers who delete or reassign images soon after auction end. It has also been a sneaky way to obtain an image that has those ''sorry this is our property'' pop-ups when you try to save it. I just save the whole auction page, then find the jpg image in the file. After re-saving the image, I can delete the rest. A bit of a nuisance, but I figured if I could see it on my screen, there had to be a way to save it. There's probably a simpler way, but I was proud of myself for even figuring out that much.

I did notice another change, with bidding history. Now they are starting to switch to private auctions when they finish! I don't understand completely--it applies to some auctions and not others, and I can't figure out the criteria for which are thus affected. But at the end they just say ''Bidder 1, Bidder 2, etc'' and there is no way to obtain the useful information that previously helped guide one's bidding. For example it is often useful to check the feedback of a rival bidder, then in turn click on a few lots he previously won and check the bid history to see if he just bids high and early, or uses sniping or back up bids. Now you can't check his feedback because he is anonymous. And when it is ongoing, as some also are, it is especially annoying. For example, I have friendly competition with one or two others on similar items, and we often defer to each other when we see a bid already placed. I'd hate to outbid or run up a friend I would ordinarily let have it. Of course such courtesy is probably anathema to eBay, who may gleefully see friendships ruined if it means an extra nickel in their coffers.

And just yesterday I discovered they do this at auction end, that is, the auction will show the actual bidders while it is still ongoing, but apparently at the instant it ends, except for seller and winner, all the bidders become anonymous! What's with that? Looks like it could introduce a whole new sniping practice, to capture the auction page with just 2 or 3 seconds to go, in order to save the bidding history before they are all masked! Again, I have no idea how prevalent this practice will become, or if it (hopefully) is another of those weird experiments that eBay seems to do for a while and then they go away. But I observed it definitely take place on a recent auction, in which the bidders IDs were available while it was going, then were masked when it finished. And it was a US auction, not like in Germany with their extra privacy rules or anything. Anybody know more about this?

Bjorn -- Yes, that's a bona fide Dangit!--almost a triple one! Minimum bid was one raise over 16.09 when you bid 46.13 and lost!

dcderoo -- Yes, Jaywild posted that design (the reprint, I believe) just before 9 AM. Both his and yours are nice uncancelled 4-margin copies. That's a scarce item in a #2. That was the first thing I thought of for X, too. Mine's a used 3-margin, cut in pretty heavily at one corner. But at least Dad had filled the space!

Gee, I figure Matt in Ohio must have some nice Xenia covers!

Bob in WA

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-11-07 at 20:06:07 PST

I-O

and Anyone with Japanese interest

I do not know what exactly these would be called and while I normally prefer just standard mail real regular
stuck on envelopes and card stuff , I found these whatevers with the Little Beautiful engravings just amazing and wonderous things to look at
nippon1969

also for I-O anything in the series like FDCIamguessing This you need scans of.

I have a few boxes sitting here just full of them have not checked the cat yet but it seems quite a run

Posted by 22028 ( 1554

)

on Feb-11-07 at 19:59:54 PST

mini*lindy, the item itself is only 4 x 6 cm large or so..., A4 ,is way to large....
Here is the image...
http://www.statusint.com/photo/2842.jpg
Guess I will send a mail to the auction house.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 317

)

on Feb-11-07 at 19:55:28 PST

Rainer, a large (A4) size Registered Envelope from here to UAR is $A17.00 plus the auction house would add something for packing charges, and charge a % to cover insurance. so that sounds about right. If it is a smaller piece, and would fit into a long envelope, 13x24cm then that envelope costs A$10.50

Linda

Posted by 22028 ( 1554

)

on Feb-11-07 at 19:45:31 PST

What are shipping costs from Australia to United Arab Emirates? I just have received an invoice from an auction house, they like to charge Aus-$ 20 shipping plus Aus-$ 4.17 insurance. Sounds high for me, considering the fact that only a small fragment with 2 stamps are to be shipped.

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3387

)

on Feb-11-07 at 19:35:57 PST

Xis for taXi taX stamps

I am X-tatic!

I sure hope D did it right this time

Posted by figmente ( 876

) on Feb-11-07 at 19:01:53 PST

I think back button misbehavior comes with ie7.

Posted by jaywild ( 916

)

on Feb-11-07 at 18:47:34 PST

NOIP… Huh??

Jim

Posted by duncan_doenitz ( 110

) on Feb-11-07 at 18:18:50 PST

Matt in AZ, I really don't know the answer to your question about visible clues in the paper, and actually it has not been an issue so far in identifying the early and late printings. They do vary a bit in dimensions, but so far none have been difficult to identify, they sort into one or the other category without difficulty.

A few things work as safety checks to be sure none are falsely identified, because 1) the plate numbers of the 1928 printings are known, and a wrong plate number that matches the 1928 printings would be a clue that the methodology is wrong. 2) Same for the color. The #563's in particular vary widely in color, and any of the bluer colors have consistently been from the early print runs. They can't be totally sorted by color and plate number though because, for example, the green #563's were on both types of paper. 3) Stamps on dated covers also support the fact that these stamps did not appear until the 1928 print runs. 4) Records tell us when the surplus paper was used, so that is also documented, as was the background story of the horizontal grained paper's history.

I really should study these more thoroughly though. Meanwhile, they really are easy to identify once you have both types in hand. And they can usually be picked out in an eBay auction scan if multiple stamps are shown together, that's how I obtain most of mine.

-Dunc

Posted by gunnysgt77 ( 543

) on Feb-11-07 at 18:00:31 PST

Good evening all.... Could anyone tell me if there are any "rare" 1933 Graf Zeppelin Flight covers from the Century of Progress Expo. I have a group of 4 with a single C18 on 2 and a pair of C18's on the other two that came and went from Friedrichshafen,Germany...Thank you.

Posted by dcderoo ( 1649

) on Feb-11-07 at 18:00:27 PST

Has anyone used this for their "X" entry?

US Scott# 2

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-11-07 at 17:21:23 PST

keleofa The issue on the flat/rotary Washington/Franklins is one of printing technology. The one Dunc was illustrating on the 4th bureau series, involves the paper.

Being frugal and using the left over paper designed for booklet panes (with the natural grain running 90 degrees different), has led to two identifible types of each catalog # of stamp. His linked pics are a perfect display. You are correct though, depending on the humidity content of the stock when imprinted, the difference.....can differ!

PS...Excellent choice of trays. I've bought commercial watermarking trays, and I've discarded them. Absolutely the BEST one i've ever encountered, is a shallow black glass ash try I "liberated" from my local watering hole. :o)

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-11-07 at 17:16:45 PST

Am starting my research on some of the material
can Anyone Tell me why so few Match and medicine stamps listed, I see s few in stores or listings
anyone know if they will sell or not here?

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1221

)

on Feb-11-07 at 17:09:59 PST

In keeping with the "X" theme here’s a cover from a friends collection and his remarks about the next few I’ll be posting.

The American Postal Machines Company installed their first flag cancel machine in Boston in October 1894, followed by installations in Chicago and Washington, DC in December. This Chicago machine with an “X” in the die space was placed into use in 1895 and used into 1896 before the killer portion was replaced with the halyard-style flag. To differentiate machines, Chicago used the entire alphabet in the die spaces as well as the numbers up to 39 in their early installations.

The Time Marking Machine Company of Chicago, Illinois installed many of their machines close to home. This included many short runs and experiments in Chicago. Among the scarcer Chicago machine cancels are those with the letters L, U, V, W, X, and XX in the die space in the killer bars. Most of these die space letters ran only a few days to (at most) 3 and a half months. This use was often in December - perhaps to keep up with the holiday mail rush? The “X” die space variety ran during at least 5 short time periods in 1909-1911, with this run lasting almost 8 weeks through most of November and December 1910. The “XX” die space variety ran during 4 short time periods in 1910-1912, with this run lasting almost 3 weeks from late November to mid-December 1910.September 10, 1985.

Jim L.

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-11-07 at 16:04:14 PST

Switch weather map to visible and use satellite image on google.

Posted by keleofa ( 3368

)

on Feb-11-07 at 16:03:04 PST

Watermark
Trays

Matt in Arizona

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-11-07 at 15:59:47 PST

Jeff

Sorry for slow reply but we have been BBQing most of the afternoon.

As far as weather map goes not much.

As far as google Earth goes this might be better.

Posted by keleofa ( 3368

)

on Feb-11-07 at 15:48:44 PST

Dunc,

re: USA 1922-25 Regular Issues

I have read your postings on RF's Board regarding these printings. I haven't been collecting much US in the way of stamps, mostly postal history. At the Riverside show I looked through some more modern postal history, including Liberty Series usages. But I do have accumulations of US off paper that one day I'll tackle.

Is everything about the later printing the same except it was done on paper that may shrink a little more? Is this shrinkage constant? There is a physical difference in the Washington-Franklins between Flat Plate and Rotary printings. I guess what I am asking is if the amount of shrinkage is negligible can identification be made by examining the paper?

Matt in Arizona

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-11-07 at 15:23:04 PST

Junkrat I see nobody tackled the question yet, so here gos. A "watermark" is a design in the paper created when the paper was made. If you hold up a new US currency bill, you'll see the ghoat like image of the portrait,...that is a watermark. Like modern currency, many stamps of old were printed on watermarked paper as a security measure (to foil counterfeiters).

The way to see a stamps watermark is place it on a flat black surface, and drench it with a solvent (like ronsonol lighter fluid)....if the paper it was printed is watermarked, the watermark areas will show up as black.

This sounds harsh, but the solvents evaporate away,
leaving the stamp none worse for wear.

Probably NOT a good idea to be smoking when you do this though......

Posted by grannygee ( 388

) on Feb-11-07 at 14:53:29 PST

Infla-alec
Thanks for lettin me know and I will try not to make to many mistakes. grannygee

Posted by duncan_doenitz ( 110

) on Feb-11-07 at 14:42:26 PST

Matt in AZ, I don't know the percentages on the 1928 printings, even though I collect them I haven't done much proper research. Honestly I've mostly just been searching for them on eBay, and so far I haven't found a #567 variety yet, although I've bought a few that turned out to be the regular issue. So in the case of #567's I'd say the odds are slim. The mintage figures are in the new Durland Catalog, which I don't have yet.

The stamps involved are perf 11 varieties #563 11c Hayes, #564 12c Cleveland, #566 15c Statue of Liberty, #567 your 20c Golden Gate, #568 25c Niagara Falls, and #569 30c Buffalo. Two more printed on booklet paper in 1928 were the #C11 Air Mail Beacon and #E13 Special Delivery.

I do know that the #563 is the easiest to find, about half of the 1928 run was on booklet paper. The toughtest one is the #E13 but I've managed to find a couple of them.

Even though they are not yet listed in Scott, the APS will certify the variety.

-Dunc

Posted by librarian-c ( 951

)

on Feb-11-07 at 14:36:19 PST

Thank you. At least I'll be able to sleep tonight..........

I just found an envelope with a mix of both types of watermarks on the same 3 issues and started to feel my eye twitch.....

Much appreciated!!

John A

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-11-07 at 14:34:25 PST

John Yes!

Posted by librarian-c ( 951

)

on Feb-11-07 at 14:33:03 PST

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71 ) on Feb-11-07 at 14:22:11 PST Listings
Librarian The watermark is side to side, in other words the crown is lying on its side. 389 to 393 are all what you call horizontal, i.e. long side at the top and bottom:-)
Peter

Thank you Peter. Now I may appear thick here, but I want to clarify what the proper watermark should be:

If I am looking at the watermark on the horizontal stamp, from the back, with the design in the appropriate direction (long side top and bottom) the crown should be on its side and the script is also sideways(running top to bottom)....so to read the script properly, I would have to turn the stamp so that it is vertical (short side top and bottom)?

Is that correct? It's not a value thing here, just that I seemed to have lost my mind with this!!

Thanks again.

John A

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-11-07 at 14:26:23 PST

the junkrut This is more of a posting board where members come and go. I am sure someone will give you better advice than me just keep checking back over the next couple of hours

Posted by dbenson ( 7835

)

on Feb-11-07 at 14:25:55 PST

X is for ?,

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r256/deebee444/x.jpg

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7835

)

on Feb-11-07 at 14:25:00 PST

Librarian, the direction of the watermark is in relationship to the design of the stamp. Some of the values exist with either upright or sideways watermarks.

David B.

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-11-07 at 14:24:53 PST

The upright variety are oin the others in that series with the short side top and bottom if that makes sense:-)

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-11-07 at 14:22:11 PST

Librarian The watermark is side to side, in other words the crown is lying on its side. 389 to 393 are all what you call horizontal, i.e. long side at the top and bottom:-)
Peter

Posted by thejunkrut ( 25

) on Feb-11-07 at 14:16:39 PST

What is a water mark? I found this stamp. now I wonder if it has a water mark.

Posted by librarian-c ( 951

)

on Feb-11-07 at 14:14:36 PST

Need help with a (possibly) silly problem:

I am looking at stamps of Ceylon - KGVI - and trying to figure out which direction the watermark is supposed to be on the horizontal stamps???

Stanley Gibbons list several issues (SG#389-393, SC#281-85) with the watermark upright. If I am viewing these stamps with the design horizontally, should the regular watermark be side-to-side or up-and-down??......which would make the watermark upright variety .......??

As always, I appreciate any assistance you can offer.

John A

Posted by thejunkrut ( 25

) on Feb-11-07 at 14:13:55 PST

Any one out there???LOL

Posted by chipg ( 208

) on Feb-11-07 at 14:03:10 PST

Judgement Day for the W's

First of all, thanks for posting so many interesting items. Here are some of the things that struck me as especially interesting during the week (but please don't read that as the other stuff was uniteresting):

Jaywild posted a page of W..., Arizona precancels. I noted that each was on a different stamp. That little extra touch was nice.

Mini*lindy shared the story of Wilcox the Welldigger. Nice.

Mikedak posted some Whitehead machine cancellations (lost the link). I've never even heard of Whitehead machine cancellations. Thanks for expanding my knowledge a bit.

Jim_Lawler showed a West Lafayetts provisional precancel. Although he didn't say so, I'll bet that he found it unidentified in some lot or box. If you know what you're looking for, you can make finds everyday.

So, the choice of "winner came down to two posts which I will describe in no particular order:

The first finalist, Knuden put up a set of links to Wrappers with Contents. Circulars and wrappers are so often considered as tranistory information by the recipients. To find such items with their original contents is really something special.

The second finalist, Knuden posted a link to a truly world-class exhibit of Danish Wrappers. As mentioned earlier, such items are so ephemeral that it is quite a feat to assemble anything that could be considered as a "complete" showing. I still remember seeing one other such exhibit of GB wrappers. Anyone who collect such an area, and who does it so well, must lead a blessed life.

So, with out any further deliberation, the winner of the "W" round is .....Knuden (it was a tie).

Congratulations to all.

So, hopefully we can have a troll-free week and on to X.

Chip

Posted by thejunkrut ( 25

) on Feb-11-07 at 13:53:50 PST

PETER! I would have no Idea how to post a pic. in here.

Posted by thejunkrut ( 25

) on Feb-11-07 at 13:52:14 PST

any info on a Woodrow wilson *1913-1921* $ stamp??

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-11-07 at 13:52:07 PST

Jthejunkrut If you are able to post a link to a scan or picture onto this board someone here should be able to help you. You can also scroll down to the yellow pages and there you will find plenty of links to help the beginner and also how to post a link.

cheers

Peter

Posted by thejunkrut ( 25

) on Feb-11-07 at 13:47:26 PST

did e-one leave?????

Posted by thejunkrut ( 25

) on Feb-11-07 at 13:44:46 PST

HI I'm new at this. anyone know how I find the value on a stamp that I found in a box that my dad had & I think it may have been from his parents. I have no idea where to go with this? thank you *Jackie*

Posted by keleofa ( 3368

)

on Feb-11-07 at 13:15:25 PST

Dunc,

Thanks! It is my cover and I compared it to my other 567s -- all appear to be the same size. What is the ratio of the original printing to the later printing?

Matt in Arizona

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 151

) on Feb-11-07 at 13:12:10 PST

Infla-alec
Thank you for responding to my question at Feb-10-07 22:10:52. If anyone else can add more I would very much appreciate it.
Lynn

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-11-07 at 13:03:32 PST

Interesting if you do a google fight between the 2, xiong mao wins by only 1,000

Posted by mini*lindy ( 317

)

on Feb-11-07 at 13:02:38 PST

X is for... well I decided to look in my ancient copy of Philatelic Terms Illustrated, a 1970s edition from Stanley Gibbons, and yes there is one entry for X

Xylography. The art of engraving on wood. Some stamps of Victoria, 1854-59 were true woodblocks, individually engraved to form a plate of 50 impressions. For the 'Registration' and 'Too Late' stamps, separate stereotyped plates for the secondary colours augmented the woodblocks, while in the 'Emblems' issue electrotyped plates were made from woodblock 'dies'.
So there you have it...X is for Woodblocks!

Linda
:o)

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-11-07 at 13:00:28 PST

Jim Far be it for me to argue with my wife who is a Beijing ren but she maintains that mao xiong is the Taiwan version!

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3387

)

on Feb-11-07 at 12:54:35 PST

IO Re Wildwood Naturists resort, can you link to a satellite image, I want to see what kind of "weather" they are having!

AZ Matt I know what you mean, my wife sometimes thinks I am good looking.

BTW, got the 2 cards just fine. Thanks

Posted by duncan_doenitz ( 110

) on Feb-11-07 at 12:50:35 PST

Matt in AZ,

Do you own the cover with the solo #567 20 cent stamp? If you do, there is a quick comparison you can make to determine if the stamp was added later - I only mention it because a measurement of the scanned stamp suggests that it might be a later printing of #567.

In 1928 a printing run was done on left over paper, paper that was originally made for printing booklet stamps. That paper intentionally had grain that ran horizontally, instead of the normal vertical grain.

Because printing of stamps was done on damp paper, there was shrinkage after printing (remember the Seinfeld episode, George and shrinkage?!) and shrinkage was less in the direction of the paper grain. As a result, the stamps printed on booklet paper were wider and shorter than the earlier printings of the same stamps.

Compare other examples of #567 to yours and you might see a difference. I measured a difference on the computer, but unfortunately "you can't tell anything from a scan". Seriously, the image might be a little distorted so the only way to tell for sure is by actual comparison.

The same comparison can be seen by looking at #563, which was printed on both papers and often the greener examples are on booklet paper so it's a bit easier to find both sizes. Here's what to look for...

peewee

Pay no attention to the perfs or the white paper, just compare the printed image size. Then compare the opposite dimension. A 1928 printing will be shorter and wider.

To confuse things a little, the 20 cent stamp would've been printed sideways in comparison to the #563, but that just means that in 1928 the "long" dimension on the stamps would be shorter, and the narrow dimension wider.

You probably didn't expect such a weird answer, but anyway the 1928 printing is a little-known topic. They are NOT listed in the US Scott Specialized catalog yet, but they are noted in the latest Durland Plate Number Catalog.

Collecting them is really a lot like collecting the rotary plate examples of stamps vs flat plate counterparts. The plates being wrapped - stretched - around a curved rotary press drum changed the size of the printed stamps.

That's my story and I'm "sticking" to it.

-Dunc

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-11-07 at 12:41:42 PST

Try again.

And Mao Zedong is Mao Zedong. *lol*

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-11-07 at 12:30:43 PST

Peter

To be more pedantic, Xiong mao is a tomcat, Mao xiong is a panda.

Posted by twicetied ( 229

) on Feb-11-07 at 12:26:53 PST

</body>
Let's try this again and hope it works....

Morning/Evening Everyone,

I also was able to get to the APS Show this weekend and thought I would stop by on the way back to the balcony.

Matt , Congradulations on your Gold, I wish the lighting had been a little better for my aging eyes.

I was able to add to my collection with a couple of items I've been wanting..... New Goodies
.

Show seemed very busy when I was there, dealers were doing at least some biz.

I was only able to stay for four hours since my wife was with me, wanted to curtail my spending, and she just had her knee operated on last month.

I kept trying to get her to stay home, "since it would be hard on her knee"; but anytime I get near a stamp show or gun show, she starts getting "real nervous".

She wanted to be there to protect our retirement funds.

Everyone have a fine day,

John

Posted by jaywild ( 916

)

on Feb-11-07 at 12:23:22 PST

twicetied… No need to feel bad. Everyone misses the mark in html sooner or later, including yours truly.

The text on this postcard reads—

”I know a party who holds about $1000 worth of US Two Dollar ($2) Columbian stamps unused o.g. in very fine condition – To close at once, can get all or any part for you if unsold, at ($2.25 each). If you can use same, let me have a prompt answer.”

Well, that’s not a bad offer, all-you-can-eat MOG $2 Columbians at 25¢ over face. I wonder if the offer is still good. Only 111 years have elapsed since it was made…

Jim

Posted by twicetied ( 229

) on Feb-11-07 at 12:13:06 PST

Thanks Jim, Will be a bit more careful in the future.

John

Posted by jaywild ( 916

)

on Feb-11-07 at 12:12:08 PST

twicetied… Very nice items, by the way. Your imperf Lincolns show the “tiny eye” effect very well (see my link below).

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 916

)

on Feb-11-07 at 12:10:20 PST

twicetied… Here is your link.

Jim

Posted by twicetied ( 229

) on Feb-11-07 at 12:06:23 PST

Sorry, that didn't work well at all. I've reported myself. John

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-11-07 at 11:59:58 PST

X Marks the spot. In the English language speaking countries not a very popular letter but I am sure there must be many from Spanish and Italian speaking countries? For my contribution I will follow Jim's line of thought there are plenty of X's in China but mine are more visually obvious. First being Xiang which in translated Elephant. In this case the stamp depicts 20 years of diplomatic relations with Thailand issued in 1995. The second a bit more convoluted, what do you get if you cross a bear with a cat? A panda of course! The Chinese for bear is xiong and the Chinese for cat is mao; the Chinese for panda is xiong mao

cheers

Peter

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-11-07 at 11:47:00 PST

Mitchell & Matthew

Dagnab it. I see that the Palanok Castle also exists on the stamps of Bohemia and Moravia (Scott 11) and Slovakia (Scott 13).

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-11-07 at 11:42:35 PST

Granny You simply used the wrong HTML code when trying to place the image as a link.
If unsure how it would look in advance of posting here simply copy and paste the image URL from your web host here. Image URL will always start with http and not have any HTML code in front of it.
My post below I reported and it will be removed as will yours with images be if you repory your own posting. To do so simply click on the little "report" button in your message.
The point being don't be afraid to come here and make mistakes.

Posted by grannygee ( 388

) on Feb-11-07 at 11:33:43 PST

HI Thanks for the information. I will try link next time. grannygee

Posted by keleofa ( 3368

)

on Feb-11-07 at 11:29:03 PST

Granny,

Your stamp is actually Scott #212. In mint (not used, not postmarked, with gum on back adn well centered) is valued at $120, or used at $2.25. Did you have other questions? It's a fairly common stamp.

As to your images, since some are on slower dial up internet connections we've developed a local etiquette not to post images directly here but just post a link. No worries, just delete the (or name change) file saved on Photobucket.

Matt in Arizona

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Feb-11-07 at 11:19:30 PST

Aloha from Port Townsend, WA -

Checking in for a short read. When is eBay going to get the picture that fakes are fakes and have little collectable value?

Local weather here in northern Washington has changed dramatically. After forecasts of cold and wet, we have sunshine and blue sky, can only be attributed to Hawaii coming to Washington.

Roger

Roger

Posted by grannygee ( 388

) on Feb-11-07 at 11:01:54 PST

Did I do something wrong by placing pictures? I see there are no other pictures showing. Please let me know. Granny

Posted by grannygee ( 388

) on Feb-11-07 at 10:53:48 PST

Hi I have a stamp that I would like some help with. Hinged in book as 214 new design blue Franklin any ifo appreciated.

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-11-07 at 09:58:36 PST

grannygee

If you go to the big yellow box below, there is a link to "how to post a link".

Posted by grannygee ( 388

) on Feb-11-07 at 09:49:48 PST

Hi can anyone trell me how to get pictures from photobucket to this site. grannygee

Posted by saphilatelics ( 409

)

on Feb-11-07 at 09:49:29 PST

knuden, dcderoo

Both the Wuerttemberg Michel 1 and 4 are found in 3 Types (I-III). They are not listed in Michel (they are noted, but not catalogued, as there is no difference in value), but they can be found in the specialized literature. Serious Wuerttemberg collectors do collect them, and BPP experts will identify and sign them. So they are very much "real", even if they are not in Michel. The stamp dcderoo showed the other day was a Type II (it was me who identified all those stamps for him).

Posted by keleofa ( 3368

)

on Feb-11-07 at 09:21:04 PST

Jim,

re: AR Cover. Good points.

When I was looking over the cover the Expo label caught my eye, but then my brain kicked in and I saw no reason for a 1901 label to be on a 1926 cover. But yes, if it was purely philatelic it would be prettier.

Matt in Arizona

Posted by jaywild ( 916

)

on Feb-11-07 at 09:13:10 PST

A town in Wales, perhaps?

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 916

)

on Feb-11-07 at 08:56:04 PST

X… Is for—X cents, of course!

No Arizona towns begin with X, so no chance for a precancel.

Speaking of Arizona, Matt in AZ your cover looks OK to me, not philatelic either. Who knows why the label was applied? Perhaps the sender and receiver both went to the expo in olden days. If the cover had been a contrivance there would have been more effort at a balanced appearance (not to mention neater writing) and I doubt the stamp would have been upside down and placed crookedly. The sender took the letter to the PO and the clerk determined the rate then slapped on the stamp willy-nilly and canceled it. It seems to me a contriver would have asked (at least) to apply the stamp himself.

Jim

Posted by bjornmu ( 875

) on Feb-11-07 at 08:50:10 PST

NOIP: is this a proper Dangit! or was the winning bid too "new"? I did see it before placing my snipe bid. This stamp would normally be worth 10 Euros max due to very thin margins, but it has a partial French 12 decimes postage due cancel.

Posted by keleofa ( 3368

)

on Feb-11-07 at 08:33:39 PST

Iomoon & Jeff - OK, thanks!

Jeff - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! :-)

Matt in Arizona

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-11-07 at 08:33:24 PST

Jeff

At 10:30am here, it's already in the mid 60's F.
I see your local weather station is at Wildwood Naturists resort.
I have a gut feeling that they are fully clothed at the moment.

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-11-07 at 08:24:44 PST

Matt in Arizona

Looks good to me!

Hmmm, the only area with a X listed in Scott is Xeimappa.
I can't think up a crossword clue!

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3387

)

on Feb-11-07 at 08:22:26 PST

IO I'll take 42 over some of our recent weather.
Corned beef was great, it went great with a big heaping portion of couch potato
Still too cool for me to fire up the smoker

AZ Matt I don't see anything wrong with the 20c AR cover except that it isn't particularly attractive.

Jeff

Posted by keleofa ( 3368

)

on Feb-11-07 at 07:40:12 PST

Handstamps....

1926 Solo use of 20¢
Golden Gate (Scott 567)

At the Riverside show I was going through a lot of 20th century covers and came across the illustrated cover. I examined it for a couple of minutes, wondering if the handstamps were real. For some reason I am now even more skeptical of hand stamps...

Anyway, the cover is probably philatelic due to the 1901 Pan Am Expo label on the back. It is posted from Los Angeles to Ravenna, Ohio in March 1926.

20c would break down as follows:

2c 1st class domestic postage
3c Return Receipt Fee (in effect 15 April 1925)
15 Registration Fee, up to $50 insured (in effect 15 April 1925)

AR - Avis de Reception Handstamp (close up)

I am looking for comments regarding this cover. Are the Los Angeles postal markings on the front good? It does appear to have been carried through the mails and the Los Angeles registration markings on the back look real, as does the Ravenna receiving marking.

Opinions?

TIA,

Matt in Arizona

Posted by duncan_doenitz ( 110

) on Feb-11-07 at 07:39:03 PST

Congratulations on your find, bilbo! And it's nice that you connected with Vic, so the sheet ended up with a good guy.

About searching on eBay - depending on your browser, you might have to RIGHT click on links, then select to open it in a separate window. Anyway, the idea is to keep your search page active, so you don't have to navigate back to it. That way you can just close the auction item page, no further loading is necessary.

About saving eBay pages - that's always been a bit ragged, it seems. For stuff I want to be absolutely sure about, I take a screen capture of the page, which means that the links don't work but the screen image is preserved.

In order to get something as large as an eBay auction image, I use Hypersnap. I'm... um... frugal. Yeah, that's it, frugal. So I use the free version of Hypersnap, which adds Hypersnap logos to the captured image, but for a minimal charge you can get a version that yields a clean image without the annoying blurb.

Once Hypersnap is loaded, all that is required is to 1) open the program, 2) get the eBay auction on screen, 3) hit Ctrl+Shift+W, then hit Enter, and Hypersnap scrolls down, capturing the entire window. Save as usual.

And for the balconeers...

You can capture individual auction images (the "photos") by right clicking on the image and selecting Save Photo As... or you can do a screen shot by hitting Print Screen, then opening Paint (Start > Programs > Accessories > Paint), then from the pull down menu select Edit and Paste. That's with a desktop computer. The screen shot command for a laptop I'm not sure about, I think it's Function+PrintScreen.

I use Internet Explorer. Your mileage may vary.

-Dunc

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-11-07 at 07:11:56 PST

Good day all.

X is easy in Pinyin Chinese.

X is for Xiaojiuzhan local overprint.

Posted by paperhistory ( 1971

)

on Feb-11-07 at 06:10:44 PST

started typing this at 5 am while dealing with cranky baby, but happily baby went back to sleep. So now finishing up.

Richard: I'm not an FDC expert by any means, but the answer is yes, and not just for handpainted cachets. "Add-ons" and fakes have been an issue in that particular marketplace for some time. As to Wright, the style is pretty distinctive and, I think, hard to reproduce.

jim: the 953 is one of the covers that isn't mine. I'm glad the other images came out, because they didn't look nearly as good on the website from which I obtained many of them...as to the Garfield signature, I have considered that in the past but it has some significant differences. I have a Garfield frank somewhere in my pile of Ohio thematic stuff that still needs to be arranged and I should compare that as well.

all: thanks for congrats on the gold! Was fairly close this time -- the scoresheet is apparently 86. I had 92 the first time...

Posted by stampmad ( 1083

)

on Feb-11-07 at 04:37:22 PST

Well done to the Poms. I was almost urging them on myself. One week ago they were $51 in a 3 horse race to win the thing.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200702/s1845194.htm

Marius

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-11-07 at 04:29:59 PST

Linda Thanks Linda, must be the English weather down there that made the guys feel at home:-)
Peter

Posted by mini*lindy ( 317

)

on Feb-11-07 at 04:01:38 PST

CONGRATULATIONS TO ENGLAND....

THIS SERIES YOU ARE THE WINNERS AND THE GRINNERS!!
WELL DONE.

sorry about the weather, but hey, it was Sydney and not Melbourne!!!
:o)

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1221

)

on Feb-11-07 at 03:58:45 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Paperhistory
Congratulations on getting the Gold.

bilbo
Like bjornmu I’ve taken to left clicking on the links and opening them in a new tab or page. That way I keep the search page and don’t have quite the hassle getting back to it.

To those stumped by the “X” week, I suspect as we go along you’ll see something posted by someone what will remind you of something similar you’ve got. The trick will be finding it. :8^ )

In keeping with the "X" theme here’s a British cover, addressed to Dublin ,

that has some backstamps

one of which is a Maltese Cross with the code letter “X” click here .

Jim L.

Posted by bjornmu ( 875

) on Feb-11-07 at 03:46:53 PST

bilbo, I don't have any problem saving the HTML from my Mozilla. As for the back button, I always open item pages in a separate window, that way I can just close the window when I'm done and the search list is still there. In fact, I usually open up several item pages at the same time.

One problem I've had recently is that some eBay hosted images just won't show in Mozilla, but they do in Opera. It seems to strike completely at random, perhaps 5% or so are affected.

Matthew, that rock would then also have belonged to Carptaho-Ukraine I presume. For one day. :-)

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Feb-11-07 at 03:46:46 PST

X of course, is for St Andrew's Cross

Posted by mini*lindy ( 317

)

on Feb-11-07 at 03:20:13 PST

Bilbo congratulations on your find, well done!

re using the Back Button, I too noticed I sometimes cannot get back to search, but being completely computer illiterate didnt know why, however.... I just right click the Back Button and select the page I need to get back to, that seems to work (?)

and for alec (first of my TWO X entries)......

X is for X-ed out This mark occurs in various colours on GB Postage Due adhesives, and indicated that the additional charge could not be collected from the adressee, usually because the letter or package had to be re-directed, or returned to the sender. This 1937 Printed Paper Postcard with written message on the reverse was posted franked ½d from Putney to Folkestone, and handstamped 1d 32 in black indicating 1d postage due. A Red 1d Postage Due was affixed and cancelled in Folkestone, but was subsequently voided by the CHARGE NOT COLLECTED X FRESH LABEL REQUIRED handstamp in violet.

Linda
still finding A-Z in the Putney Collection !!

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Feb-11-07 at 03:11:22 PST

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Posted by bilbo ( 306

) on Feb-11-07 at 03:09:27 PST

stamphick!,
LONG TIME NO SEE! How the heck are you doing? It’s nice to see you’re still around! Thanks for your efforts!

rclwa,
I just knew this was the place to go! Thanks so much and I’ve made note of your reference for future acquisition.

postalhysteria, iomoon, stamphick!, and rclwa,
Thanks to all for your help on my recent questions.
As some of you may have surmised, I’m preparing to liquidate my sheet collection entirely.
My business has not bee good, and while I seek gainful employment I’ll need the cash.
I’ll definitely be back someday as stamps is still my favorite distraction.
Some of you may hear from me soon, off chat, as I am working on a new internet project which may well lend itself well to some of the long time concerns of this board.
But that is for later.

So I’m going to try and get it all listed and done with in one fell swoop in the next week or so, and the questions I’ve asked have been to fill in the few missing blanks in my database so thanks for filling the holes.

Since I asked about it a few weeks ago, I thought I’d give an update on this:
Some of you may recall that back in ’98 I discovered, in a bulk lot of sheets, a full pane of US 1912-1918 TAGGING OMITTED, and I recently asked about it back here seeking some updated guidance.
As it turned out, it just so happened there was a Stamp show in town that week-end, and I finally took it out of wraps and took it to the show.
Apparently the few who saw it, and made some calls and caused a little bit of a stir, all the way to New Jersey without me realizing it was happening.
While I did some phone calling and asking around, I finally got in touch with the US Editor at Scott Publishing Co.
Jim referred me to Victor Bove in New Jersey, and as it turned out Mr. Bove is the one that was able to provide information to Jim that this error even existed.
(When I discovered mine in ’98, it was not shown in the catalogue, or any other error reference I could locate)
Anyway, by the time I contacted Mr. Bove, he had already been approached about my pane by two other dealers, I assume hoping to broker it if they could swim back upstream and find me.
Mr. Bove was very nice and shared a great deal of information with me about his experiences with this particular error, and I sold it to him for $500.00 for the whole pane.
So anyway, it turned out, against what to me seemed like long odds, to be a legitimate, albeit less popular, but extremely rare error.
I’m sure this won’t be news to any of the regulars here, but for any beginning or intermediate collectors that happen past this chat while this post lasts: The moral of the story is, invest a few bucks in a good UV light and dig through everything, no matter how cheap you might think it is because you just might get as lucky as me.

On an off topic note, has anybody else noticed some frustrating changes to eBay auction pages recently?
Apparently they’ve added even more active code because:
1. I can no longer do a File Save As... with the “Web Page, complete (*.htm; *.html)” option on any of the actual auction pages. It still works on other non-auction pages, but I get a “This Web Page could not be saved error”.
2. In auctions that include the multiple pictures in the description hosted by eBay, if you click on any of the pictures, it seems to reload the entire page for every picture you click. This causes the browser to see that as a separate web page of each picture, and when you click “Back” you then have to go back through every freakin picture you looked at before you get back to the search results page. Additionally, there seems to be some active code embedded with this because frequently, when you get back to the first page impression of the auction, and hit back again (to get to the search page), it keeps reloading the active code from the auction page and won’t let you get back to the search page unless you’re real fast to hit the back button two or three times to get past the active code.

Has anybody else experienced this, and or heard any announcements from eBay related to this?
Sorry for the off topic question. I’d go to the DNF board but they are useless, and everybody knows this is where the users with actual intellect hang out.

Posted by sayasan ( 603

)

on Feb-11-07 at 02:33:55 PST

Duncan - Thanks for the thoughtful comments.

paperhistory - Your William Wright cachets are very attractive. I know I'm going off on a tangent here, but doesn't this kind of cachet lend itself to abuse? I know printed cachets can be applied retrospectively to blank fdc's, and hand drawn/painted would seem to be even easier to add. On some of your examples the cancel is clear of the design. I'm thinking less of forgeries of a known cover-maker like Wright, and more of new "discoveries". Has this been known? Just curious.

Richard W.

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-11-07 at 02:25:02 PST

Paperhistory Congratulations on your well deserved Gold award.
Lynn I don't know about values for imperf in between for Ecuador but it is a great pity about the damaged lower right stamp. That damage alone i think would reduce the value quite a lot. As it is I still feel it would sell ok on ebay.
Others here may have a better idea though as to how scarce such a variety is.

Today begins the letter "X" showings. Not an easy letter to try and show something with. I can't think of anything at present that fits but will be interested to see who can.

Posted by flip138 ( 366

) on Feb-11-07 at 02:00:37 PST

uppercanadian

Yes, there is interest in collecting New Zealand cancels. A useful book is "The 1998 New Zealand Post Offices Cancellation & Postmark Guide" by Richard Wooders.

The cancel you describe is classified as a type A. They were introduced between 1880 and 1905 and were issued to over 2000 post offices. On Wooders' 1(common)-10(rare) scale, Feilding rates a 2. By the way, it's N Z across the top, not N 2.

Phil

Posted by rolyrj ( 2 ) on Feb-11-07 at 01:58:12 PST

Brad Check your email
cheers
Roly

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 151

) on Feb-10-07 at 23:08:59 PST

UUURRRGGGHHH!!! Okay, try this...http://www.photodump.com/viewer/mtndew/Document(6).html

Posted by uppercanadian ( 906

)

on Feb-10-07 at 22:28:24 PST

I am just working through a large accumulation of New Zealand stamps. Many of the earlier issues I have up to say the 1898 set, have some pretty good cancellations on them, with the cds clearly visible. Is there much collecting interest in that area?

For instance, I have an 1882 2p violet Queen Victoria, with a very clear cancellation reading, N.2 / FEILDING / SP 3 88.
Would anyone be interested in this sort of thing?

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 151

) on Feb-10-07 at 22:12:16 PST

Drats! try this link... Document(6)
Lynn

Posted by 19thcentpostal ( 151

) on Feb-10-07 at 22:10:52 PST

NOIP
This block of 1894 Ecuador- Document(6) is imperforate horizontally. Is this common enough an item to sell on ebay or should I be looking for an auction house?
Thank you in advance for any assistance.
Lynn

Posted by jaywild ( 916

)

on Feb-10-07 at 21:58:08 PST

paperhistory… Also, the image of the Wright hand-drawn George Washington Carver cover is way too small!! All the rest seem to be OK.

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 916

)

on Feb-10-07 at 21:54:08 PST

Matthew… Yes! Nice to see you back.

paperhistory… Congratulations on your gold medal. Your exhibit is terrific. On that note—do you think the signature on this could be James A. Garfield? He was a Republican Representative from Ohio at the correct time frame, eventually rising to Republican floor leader in 1876, which would make a personal letter to the President—all Republicans during that era—plausible. Below your cover is an early signature of Garfield’s.

Jim

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 19:58:06 PST

matthew in NY,

don't be such a stranger to the board and thanks again.

matthew in Ohio.

Congrats on the award.

Posted by matthew1999 ( 148

)

on Feb-10-07 at 19:41:49 PST

Jim,

I just happened across it by accident. There is also a recent Hungarian commemorative coin featuring the castle.

Mukachevo has belonged to five different countries over the past century: Austria-Hungary, Czechoslovakia, wartime Hungary, the Soviet Union and independent Ukraine. For an old rockpile, it sure gets around! If you could find a stamp or postcard depicting it from each of those five countries, that would make quite a page!

Mh

Posted by paperhistory ( 1971

)

on Feb-10-07 at 19:41:46 PST

Matt: thanks! For those who'd like to see the exhibit, I have it online here.

And, I'm still working on this, but W is for William Wright. He made hand-drawn, hand-painted cachets for US first day covers from the mid-1940s through late 1959. He has a distinctive style and they are very colorful. I'm trying to catalog all of the known varieties. So far I list about 240, but many of the photos on site are not items I own. Once I find them all (not easy, Wright probably never produced more than 100 covers or so for any issue) this will be an exhibit. :)

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 19:10:50 PST

Matthew

Many thanks for the info.
I'm not very well aquainted with volcanoes in eastern Europe.

Posted by djs127 ( 573

)

on Feb-10-07 at 19:09:25 PST

It was a nice to find when I checked my computer after the Sabbath 3 paypal payments for stamps. One was a purchase from a store but not from an Ebay store as I closed mine and opened one on another website. The total was for $30 including postage for a few stamps I had not sold on Ebay (4 were Thurn and Taxis). So I started looking at collections, mixtures and red boxes on Ebay to bid on. Found a few interesting ones.
Will have to finish the orders tomorrow as my wife wants me to spend some time with her. Given that our 24th anniversary is the 13th I better go.
David Snyder

Posted by keleofa ( 3368

)

on Feb-10-07 at 18:39:36 PST

APS AmeriStamp Expo 2007...

Just got home from the APS AmeriStamp Expo 2007 in Riverside, California.

It seems like the dealers were quite busy. I bought a few items, viewed the exhibits.

Congrats to Paperhistory for his Gold Medal for his Cincinnati Postmarks exhibit!

Matt in Arizona

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1221

)

on Feb-10-07 at 18:27:32 PST

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s the cancel for Kokomo Stamp Club card 48-8, an old “Wishing Well cancel. just throw in your pennies and make a Wish .

Jim L.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Feb-10-07 at 17:56:44 PST

Matthew That would be position 4-1 on this page. Interesting but I don't trust "dormant" Volcanoes, so I would not want to live there.

Posted by matthew1999 ( 148

)

on Feb-10-07 at 17:49:19 PST

Hiya, Mitch. Hi, everybody.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Feb-10-07 at 17:41:52 PST

Hi Matthew Good to see you!

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Feb-10-07 at 17:40:00 PST

776@.GawG Do you really want me to tell them where that hunk of rubber went. Ye gods, we would be reported too (mindless politically correct) watch dog's we never even knew exsisted!

Posted by matthew1999 ( 148

)

on Feb-10-07 at 17:37:02 PST

ahem, die proof.

Posted by matthew1999 ( 148

)

on Feb-10-07 at 17:34:59 PST

Jim/Io

Volcano discovery: Palanok Castle in Mukachevo, Ukraine sits atop a volcanic hill. It is also featured on this stamp of the former Czechoslovakia, of which Mukachevo used to be a part. Nice http://www.phoenix-stamps.co.uk/ambrowCart/shop/show_details.php?ref=P1123 target=blank>die proof of same also available.

Like the French Puy-en-Velay stamp, this is not a volcano per se, but a human structure on a dormant/dead one. Perhaps these could be a separate category on your website?

Mh

Posted by 776 ( 652

)

on Feb-10-07 at 16:34:18 PST

Now where did I put that chunk of rubber. I got some whittling to do.

Gawg

Posted by deh3 ( 1333

)

on Feb-10-07 at 15:26:36 PST

Knud-Erik Your Chinese cover with CNC (usually denoted with $ signs) 292 000 in stamps seems to have much less franking than it should. According to Postage rates of China 1867--1980 by Sieh & Blackburn (the standard English language Chinese rates book), the rate for first class airmail to Canada on 8 September (8/9/48 is more likely 8 September than August 9) was $800 000 air supplement plus $300 000 first class (this was effective 21 August--20 November 1948).

Of course it is possible that S & B is in error. It is also possible that some of the overprinted stamps were from revalued currencies, but I don't think that is the case. Perhaps there were large denomination stamps missing? Perhaps there was an $8000 in stamps missing and it went by surface? It doesn't look like any are missing, so I don't know what happened. Maybe the year (or more likely, the month) in the postmark is wrong?

If the date really were 9 August, it still wouldn't be consistent with the franking---the rates were half, that is,
$400 000 air supplement plus $150 000 UPU rate.

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-10-07 at 15:10:42 PST

I need some help - please go to the other chat board. ;O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by mini*lindy ( 316

)

on Feb-10-07 at 14:56:42 PST

My best 'in cover' find was an Empire Airways cover, which sold for low dollars, inside as a 'stiffener' was a fold out information brochure/timetable (pre-War), which I sold for around $100. Some covers were just meant to be opened!

Linda

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 14:46:08 PST

Jeff

Looks like it has been a very cool day up there in Bowie (42F).
Corned beef sounds real good right now.
I'll probably BBQ tomorrow.

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3385

)

on Feb-10-07 at 14:42:01 PST

And NIX the 10-day auctions, they are a waste of money. 7-day is plenty.

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3385

)

on Feb-10-07 at 14:37:42 PST

NS - have fun, try to think like a buyer, not a seller, it IS an auction.

M-I-L cooked us a corned beef, off to the chow line.

Jeff

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 14:34:40 PST

phewwwww changed the rate to flat rate....wowo im glad u saw that thanks

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-10-07 at 14:30:19 PST

Bilbo -- The information you seek about design origins of National Parks series is in Vol IV of Johl. (Max G. Johl, The United States Postage Stamps of the Twentieth Century, Vol IV 1933-1937) It devotes 52 pages to the Parks series, including pictures of rejected designs by various artists, and original photographs of the scenes used. The three you mentioned (1¢, 7¢, and 9¢) were all designed by McCloskey, as were all in the series except the 10¢. It was designed by a Miss Esther Richards, and was the first U.S.stamp designed by a woman, for you trivia buffs out there.

As for the uncut sheets, I believe the USPS materials even state on them that the wrapping is not archival and they should be removed. I would not want to leave a large sheet rolled up for too many decades, or it might become impossible to ever flatten it out without damage. I have a few of my own I need to attend to. At a minimum, it would seem prudent to re-roll it the opposite direction every so often to avoid a permanent curl setting in.

Bob in WA

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 14:29:04 PST

holy crud!!!! I forgot to change the S&H lol thanks for the enlightenment!!! lol And the things in the envelopes are not cardboard....some kind of receipt and the other is a hand written piece of paper I can't read

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3385

)

on Feb-10-07 at 14:24:50 PST

Early FDC preparers often put some kind of filler in the envelope to keep them righd in the mail. Also sealed. Unsealed envelopes were likely to receive an UNSEALED handstamp along the way. I wouldn't get excited about it.

Your shipping costs are extraterresterial. Get real with them.

From what I have seen of your FDCs they often go in large lots of similar, and addressed will be lucky to get 15 cents apiece in wholesale lots (unless something special)

Suggest you save time with the description and concentrate on images. Anyone who has made it past FDC 101 will know what they are.

Group them by years, or decades if you will.

EX: 23 different addressed cacheted FDCS from 1965, opening bid 99 cents. Or by face values - 65 different 4c FDCs, opening bid 99 cents.

Get a scale and weigh them ready for mailing to get postage costs, add 50 to cover materials. Do some scrounging.

There is no shortage of what you are trying to sell. Don't expect much and you won't be disappointed.

Do a search on FDCs closed auctions and you will see what I am talking about.

Jeff

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 14:15:45 PST

any suggestions?

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 14:14:45 PST

and my curiosity is killing me here i have two first day issues from 1929 and 1932 and each are sealed with something written inside....one has something signed....both are type addressed to the same person

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 14:13:36 PST

lol jeff....yes i am an RN and i was a prison nurse for a long time and an inmate called me that one time cuz i wouldn't give him his "fix"

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3385

)

on Feb-10-07 at 14:12:25 PST

nursesatan As long as it is not slit open, either is fine. I believe unaddressed are preferred unsealed, and addressed sent thru the mail, sealed is OK.

Are you a real nurse, and did your patients give you the unusual name?

jeff

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 14:07:23 PST

Duncan

Due to the unexpected heat wave here, my keyboard has taken to sticking.
I did not mean to write "I gets tiring" but rather, It gets tiring"
A lot of people were involved in the attempts to get Addie and lotus narued. I was just a minor character in the overall picture.

This latest idiot, apart from being unable to spell, seems to want to pass the blame for totally off-the-wall post office instructional marks off to one of seven other listers under the same eBay ID. If I were one of the other seven (possibly fictitious) listers, seeing the listings of the miscreant, I would want out immediately.

This person does not even have the wherewithall to buy and sell under different eBay ID's, unlike the NY scammers.

On the different subject, yep I collect the Polish exile mail, mainly because it was easy to complete an entire "country" very cheaply. A lot of Polish exiles died in trying to return to their home country and in protecting Britain from a German invasion. Many were employed sweeping grounded mines on the East Anglian coast and lost their lives.

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 14:07:23 PST

can anyone tell me if it makes a difference if the first day issue envelope is open or sealed?

Posted by duncan_doenitz ( 110

) on Feb-10-07 at 13:39:21 PST

Hiya iomoon.

Atdinvest and lotus194 are both excellent examples of the consistent failure, over a long period of time, of eBay to protect its buyers, the "you can't tell anything from a scan" defense to an indefensible marketplace position, which really meant "anything goes, as long as it means short term profits" and thus eBay's tarnished reputation when you talk to people on the street today.

Now eBay is making buyers' names private, and eBay is confident in their ability to protect us from shill bidders without the help of watchdogs. Yeah, right.

Why not just ban Second Chance offers, since that is a problem area that eBay uses to justify this change. Let sellers contact potential Second Chance buyers, letting them know that the item will be relisted instead of keeping the Second Chance option?

One seller did this for me when he had a similar item for sale when I was underbidder, and he contacted me and then listed it as a Buy It Now at my underbidder price, which was an elegant solution.

A seller could also simply relist the item and let the underbidder know it was listed, and let the marketplace prevail. Disallow Second Chance offers. Shill bidding is already a serious problem (you should see some of the outrageous stuff documented in my files that eBay thinks is OK), why make it worse while attempting to cure other ills?

io I should mention, for any new balconeers who don't know of your background, that you have done a great deal of work fighting the abuses on eBay at a time when cooperation from eBay was dismal at best.

Oh, by the way, from time to time I see you post a link to the postal items issued by the Polish Government in Exile during WW2. Always looking out for the underdogs, eh? Their treatment after the war was not a proud moment for the Allies. I've always wanted to mention that, since the "teacher" in you shines through at unexpected times.

Just my two pfennigs...

-Dunc

Posted by dbenson ( 7833

)

on Feb-10-07 at 13:28:41 PST

IO, Ebay states that they are very strict with Narued members registering but in this case even though the previous ID was Narued for selling fake " butler " disinfection marks which have the same general appearance as the fake " Missent " & " damaged " marks all he got was a good behaviour bond and warning. I know by personl corespondence that he has been in contact with the SWC & APS officials who did not recognise the outright sham that has been committed an most probably got swayed by his rhetoric, apparent knowledge & bullshi* that he has told them. It shows that the SWC & the officials at the APS who oversee the system didn't contact people who have knowledge on the subject and allowed him to continue,

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 12:51:23 PST

nursesatan

Try to combine your comments in one post rather than throwing up 8 in 11 minutes.
What you are selling, no one can see via camera images of covers.
Get yourself a scanner to do images.
Also try writing in English rather than complete lower case.

Duncan

I gets tiring persuing the idiots which eBay cannot recognize as rip-off artists. Addie and Lotus took a lot of work.

Posted by duncan_doenitz ( 110

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:34:30 PST

Feeding the trolls-

A necessary and often thankless task. So to all those that stayed with it through the nearly endless drudgery of jd8's relentless spam and pure BS, hey "Way to go" and "well done"!

Richard (sayasan), a special thanks to you. I'm sure jd8 has no idea how meticulous your investigations can be, and how much experience you have in tracking down and documenting the unrepentant bad sellers. Everybody here should KNOW that spotting the butterflied cover with the phony "MISSENT TO IRELAND" hand stamp will surely be the straw that breaks the Israeli camel's back.

It's really not funny, but in a way, jonathandean8's ridiculous lies in trying to explain that patently phony cover also is a revelation when it comes to proving his intent. No backing down from the earlier BS and admitting that the cover is phony, because that means logically that the other "MISSENT TO IRELAND" covers are also bad, as well as the rest of the already doubtful items.

So gang, thanks for NOT backing down, thanks for toughing it out and most of all thanks for taking so much valuable time to get the job done.

As some contributors have already noted, eBay is not the swiftest when it comes to whacking this stuff, and in reality if it doesn't get done here, it doesn't get done at all. And then we all lose.

Sure, more bad guys keep popping up, but at least they are REPLACEMENTS for prior miscreants, not additions to the already polluted pool of sellers. Every persistent bad seller whacked represents sometimes hundreds or thousands of actual sales to actual victims, and every time another bad seller is NARU'ed, victimized buyers get a needed education earlier instead of later.

Every bad seller who is ignored and allowed to continue is an example for a horde of additional bad sellers to emulate.

Ever notice how few bad Canadian items appear on eBay? It's because Canadian authorities respond quickly, and the damage is minimized, which, until recently, is what US authorities did as well. That also means less work for the Canadian watchdogs - see how it works? Waiting until the problem becomes an epidemic is NOT the answer.

So why not feed the trolls? Lure them out where everybody can get a good look at them, which is exactly how a couple of the worst sellers, atdinvest and lotus194 were whacked, when they were revealed (by participants of this chat board) as being unrepentant bad sellers.

Personally, I was entertained to the point of laughing out loud at jd8s justification of the phony MISSENT cover but sickened as well by the attitude displayed. Very sad, really, but that's the nature of bad sellers - as revealed here.

I'm just saying...

-Dunc

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:33:12 PST

i could have a fortune here and not no it lmao doubt it though im not that lucky lol

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:32:48 PST

oops *by decade

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:32:18 PST

i was thinking of starting them all out at like $1.99 and see where they go?

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:31:33 PST

well it sure seems like a ton to me lmao
maybe not quite a ton lol

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:31:02 PST

kewl thanks for the info and the link.....i have a ton of these stamps that were left by my boyfriend's deceased wife and he wants me to sell them on here....I am just listing them in lots but decade and listing exactly what is on the envelope and stamp etc. There is a TON of loose stamps from all over the world too...it is going to take me forever to do this lol

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 12:30:38 PST

K-E

After carefully rereading Gibbons, some of the overprints on the stamps on the back were issued in September, so it may be a fdc (at least for them).

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-10-07 at 12:29:37 PST

nursesatan - You said you had a ton!???

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-10-07 at 12:28:30 PST

nursesatan - If it canceled the first day of issue it's a First Day of Issue cover even if it's mentioned on the cover or not.

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:28:17 PST

50kg? lol

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-10-07 at 12:26:25 PST

nursesatan - Put them on eBay on lots of 50kg each and see what you can get or (better) scroll down to the yellow box and read it carefully for good advices what to do. *lol*

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:23:57 PST

Does it have to say first day issue for it to be a first day issue?

Posted by nursesatan ( 1109

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:22:38 PST

HI all anyone have time for a quick question? I have a ton of stamps and first day issues that I know nothing about lol

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-10-07 at 12:21:45 PST

Iomoon - Thanks. I repeted to message with smaller images. :O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-10-07 at 12:19:16 PST

I have just got this (back) cover from China to Canada. It has a FDC marking but the date doesn't match the date in Scott, which are Aug. 16, 1948.
Can anyone confirm which date is correct?
The cover has stamps of $292.000 - was this the correct rate.
Has this cover any value at all or is it just another philatelic cover?

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 12:12:56 PST

K-E

Gibbons agrees with August 16th.
Michel agrees with August 16th.

Posted by stamphick! ( 334

) on Feb-10-07 at 12:12:08 PST

io...I found the engraver bilbo mentioned. He was a Bureau engraver but the references I found only linked him to a John Muir stamp. I have a book called "US Postage Stamps, 1847-1967" that lists designers and engravers but oddly only from 1953 onward.

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-10-07 at 11:38:49 PST

dcderoo - Re: Your Wurttemberg stamps.
3bIII is number 3 - b is the color and III is the type (exist in 4 types)
4aII again number/color and it should be, type but as this stamp only exist in one type there doesn't seem to bee a type II.
13a - here "a" is (again) the color = light olivegreen to olivegreen on green paper.
16xa - here cat. number/type of paper (o.09 - 0.14 mm) and color = orangebrown to brown on brown paper.
In other words 1,2 etc. = catalog number. a, b etc. = color of stamp. I, II etc. = type of print. x, y = thighness of paper.

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-10-07 at 11:25:28 PST

Bilbo and I-O
I figure some lots on Ebay
Just depends on what is there.
The Storage facility has no hookup to the WWW
so I must Move them here.
I have been researching Auction Houses
for the Specialized stuff and they have offered whateverFees are needed for anything that MIGHT need certs
andor Graded if I (and of course some of you I hope) think any need that.
I-O
My feelings exactly on the Asia stuff I think I know who the last dealer was and he is so far behind the real world it is astounding that he remains in business.

Tomorrow evening I should have a much better handle on what is in all those banana boxes . I am hoping that he was as meticulious with his stamps as he was his Postal history stuff. He was one of the first dealers who I hit it off with, and just a few visits with him taught me a lot.

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 11:08:00 PST

saketb

If you can read German, Michel has an online catalog here.

Gibbons has an online catalog here

I don't remember anyone specifically collecting flowers on stamps. However, Sarah has links to flower collectors sites here.

Posted by dcderoo ( 1649

) on Feb-10-07 at 11:07:21 PST

In fact while I'm at it, I might as well ask about the other notations.

Another was ID'ed as Wurttemberg 4aII.
What does the "II" indicate?

Then there was the 13a.
What does the "a" indicate?

Finally there was the 16xa.
What does the "x" indicate?

Guess it's time to invest in a new Michel's.

Posted by vinnysf ( 300

) on Feb-10-07 at 11:05:20 PST

i posted some unused wurttenburg stamps here as a "W" is for wurttenburg a few days ago...so thats two votes for wurttenburg!

Posted by dcderoo ( 1649

) on Feb-10-07 at 10:59:13 PST

Someone here (I've forgotten who) very nicely commented on some better Wurttemberg stamps I have.
One of them he ID'ed as Michel 3bIII which apparently is a better variety.
My 1982/83 Michel tells me that means the paper is dunkelgelb (dark green?) BUT I don't see any indication of what the "III" means.
I guess that depth of identification was not published in 1982.

What does the "III" indicate?

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Feb-10-07 at 10:40:03 PST

W = Wurttemberg.

Regarding the next round of A-Z. I think the topical theme would be the best but to take on all subjects at once would be overwhelming. At the end of the next A-Z we would also be stuck with what to do next. I suggest the next round should concentrate on a couple areas like people and places. The following round to encompass everything else.
Just my thoughts.

Guido (as long as some are making up fake names)

Posted by saketb ( 11

)

on Feb-10-07 at 10:37:55 PST

hello,
could anybody tell me where can I find a free online stamp cataluoge. printed ones are very expensive and not affordable. i would even like to know if anyone is collecting on flowers?

Posted by sayasan ( 603

)

on Feb-10-07 at 10:11:57 PST

I get the point. Ran out of food anyway.

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 10:06:56 PST

Bilbo

Have you tried the book "Sloane's Column"?
I do not have a copy, so have no idea if it contains such information.

Posted by bilbo ( 306

) on Feb-10-07 at 09:47:03 PST

IO,
I also tried the USPS site, and several various searches, but could find nothing. Thanks for your efforts!

Posted by bilbo ( 306

) on Feb-10-07 at 09:38:44 PST

due2cents,
I'm curious if you plan to move the items you don't want to keep on eBay and if not by what other means?

The reason I ask is that if I had a parent of some good friends that passed on, and I wanted to help them maximize the return without getting taken by the low balled dealers, I would go there to their location, identify the good stuff, and list it right from their house for them. It may be more effort than ordinary dealers would put in, but it keeps me from getting in trouble with my friends and the stuff never leaves their possession.
The problem with pictures is that details that you don't know exist until after you closely examine them can escape the lens.

If you're going to go through all the trouble of steps 1-6, you might as well just do it all from their location and don't even take the items away.

It sounds like you want to do this anyway, but I would do in such a way that can be easily accounted. If none of it leave their possession, and all of the money goes into paypal, it is easy to calculate your 30% and there is no dispute about what items were what, or what had faults and what didn't.

I don't know, just an idea...

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 09:30:58 PST

Bilbo I have not forgotten your question about the artist for the National parks stamps. I could not find anything via google on the artist that you mentioned. Does the USPS, or anyone else, have a web site where the artists and methods of production for the commemorative stamps are listed?

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 09:26:40 PST

Pro

If I understand you correctly, what you are considering undertaking will be a tremendous task. I assume you will act as a "middle-man" to try and disperse of about a million stamps.

One only has to look to D2, who in eight years, doing it almost full-time, has listed over 47,000 auctions.

BTW, the dealer who stated that early Asia was worthless has not been following the eBay marketplace.

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-10-07 at 09:03:49 PST

Bilbo
I plan on Taking Photos of everything Have bought a couple of Memory sticks (big ones) These I will leave with the heirs.
I DO NOT plan on making an offer (I know I do not have the resources) The Estate has already been divided by the courts and HIS personal album and private materials divided amongst the downline. They are getting tired of paying for the climate controlled storage I originally started this discussion 2 years ago with these folks.
I have a much greater handle on stamps stuff now (thank goodness)
They came to me again because they tried to do business with some of their dads old friends and known dealers but were offered very little. The last looker spent 10 minutes looking and blew them off because "early asia/pacific rim material is almost worthless"
The stamps need to go somewhere as they have decided once the stamps are done .
Then the Postal History stuff.
I am interested in the PH aspect ( Like I want the Complete set of Xmas seals used on postcards , and other things)

So what I am going to attempt is to move the stamps for them ( the have offered 30% after whatever fees)
They (the couple I know) are too busy with their professional lives and really clueless when it comes to Stamps. The Postal History stuff is all marked with values and was his passion . I am hoping some of the glassines are marked also not just sorted .
Whatever they get from this will be spent in Vegas

Posted by bilbo ( 306

) on Feb-10-07 at 08:36:54 PST

due2cents,
"I am thinking I should have some kind of
written deal(contract) before I move this stuff to my location."
I don't see how that is technically possible without a specific inventory of everything that is there.

"They are not especially worried about the values they just know it has some."
I'm probably not saying anything you don't already know, but perhaps you just need to actually hear it, but these feelings have a way of changing after non-interested parties start to shudder in regret that a huge pile of potential left without an inventory being taken and start dropping innuendos and the hoped for return does not seem to materialize.

Steps 1, 2 and 4 sound like reasonable steps to make an effort to be initially fair for the estate of an old friend, but still it remains an estate lot.

Steps 3, 5, and 6 sound like things you should be doing after you make a bulk offer for the entire lot unless you can easily pick through and get the postal history and any other classic gems you find.

IMO, anything else is just asking for trouble at some point in the future.

Just my 2 cents worth for your due2cents…

bilbo

Posted by richwong ( 427

) on Feb-10-07 at 08:32:37 PST

Hello bilbo,

I think you should open them for inspection before you list and sell. I see no advantage to selling them as originally sealed and shipped. Humidity, etc. could have caused problems over the years and you could end up with a very unhappy buyer.

Posted by bilbo ( 306

) on Feb-10-07 at 08:19:02 PST

Good morning all again,

Believe me, the irony of what I'm about to say does not escape me, as I am sure it will not escape most of the old regulars here but;

If we could get past the bickering, and back on topic, I'd appreciate it if some of y'all postal history guys and gals could step out of the box, or get off the regular path and just share an opinion or two about my uncut sheet question @ Feb-10-07 at 04:54:31 PST

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-10-07 at 08:15:22 PST

Seeking Advice

In the AM tomorrow I am going to go have a look see at almost a Million stamps in Glassines. trying to make sure I take the best look I can before I make a decision on what it might be worth.

Background : Old expert passed away, his heirs have this material in storage, I have purchased some of my Better Postal History Items from their dad and am guessing because I never saw any JUNK in his boxes of Postcards and Covers that he did not save the mundane.

My plan of attack is
1. quick scan of countries.
2. Look for the Major earlies (US,GB,Oz,Swiss,Germany etc)
3. Check for faults with fluid
4. try to find the core values
5. Do some Ebay and auction house comparisons.
6. (I hate to say this) See if anything looks like a high grade possiblity.

I imagine that they will "give" me this material for dispersal , I am thinking I should have some kind of
written deal(contract) before I move this stuff to my location. They are not especially worried about the values they just know it has some.
I am doing this primarily to get the inside track on His postal history items. And plan on trading a major portion of my $ part for his Trans-Missippi, Pan-Am, etc Expo material which is vast.

Does Anyone have any thoughts, Ideas, pitfalls,
warnings about this attempt I am going to Make?

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-10-07 at 07:43:44 PST

Good day all.

Enough of this banter.

Posted by cwhutch ( 620

)

on Feb-10-07 at 07:42:12 PST

Good morning.

I think due2cents has it. I vote for DFTT.

Hutch

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-10-07 at 07:13:07 PST

Sorry Jaywild
But I disagree
Stupid people do not make the kinds of sales "these" folks seem to make.
Remember the guy a while back handstamping overprints
on GB material.
They all seem fearless in defending "their" work and
as I said before (as have others)
Don't Feed the Troll
Not only (IMHO) do these types get off on selling their wonky material they get even more of a RUSH rubbing the noses of the Philatelic Literate in it.

Face it we all know that is "Buyer beware" here it is in every listing.
The folks at the SWC only looked at a few (Percentage wise) of reported listings and the number removed was less than funny (IMHO) more like a sick joke. The numbers were on RF's board a couple of weeks ago I think. The small number of items Actually sent to the SWC shows where the truth in all these type items really lies. WeSaySo rules.

The bottom line is and will always be "the bottom Line"

DFTT (don't feed the troll)

I would like to point Again as one of the younger types here ,the older set I feel just does not get it. Trolls love attention. They love it when any response comes. No matter what you say,call them,point out,Prove, refute.....
It is the attention the Crave DFTT

Posted by jaywild ( 915

)

on Feb-10-07 at 06:44:26 PST

Somewhere, a village is missing its idiot…

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 915

)

on Feb-10-07 at 06:35:48 PST

jonathandean8… Are you sure you have 8 listers? I’ll bet you really have seven, and every morning they go off to work in the mines singing “Hi-ho, hi-ho, it’s off the work we go…”

A word of advice—when the old hag comes around with a shiny apple for you, be sure to take a nice big bite of it.

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 915

)

on Feb-10-07 at 06:29:43 PST

jonathandean8… You keep saying “well they just called my flight so I have to go” and yet you stay around. The airline wouldn’t be Air La-La, would it, where all you have to do to fly is take a pill?

Jim

Posted by sayasan ( 603

)

on Feb-10-07 at 05:39:47 PST

Blag, blag, blag ...

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 05:37:31 PST

Sorry I must go-I probably will be off line for 8 days in Sri Lanka and depending on my flights may not have time for the chat board. The 8 listers have instructions. I don't think they will list anything today but weekends is whe they have time.You can contact me via my email or ebay's internal mail.It is not the first time Ireland have opened obvious philatelic envelopes and applied a hand stamp accross the centre and no doubt will not be the last.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 05:32:25 PST

Richard (sayasan) you be surprised what co-operation you can get from Postal Agencies if you write to them directly.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 05:29:33 PST

Richard isn't it (sayasan). It is not the first cover that Philatelic section of Ireland have opened completely and not the last one.That one came back with two others with New Calesonian postage Stamps and a letter stating they opened it up to extraxt our printed letter and address which states it is going to a philatelic illustration or was and is so treated. As often happens the two letter got stuck according them so they opened one of 4 at random completely and applied one of 4 to 6 different missent hand stamps. On the other 3 they added two differnt Ireland Hand stamps and Received in this condition and returned the whole lot in an Official Irish Postal Envelope with an apology for opening the cover completely and wishing us the best of luck with our "book". We also ask if they can send us examples of their auxiliary markings and postal stationery. Postal Stationety we got but not an A4 sheet with all their postal auxiliary handstamps. Correspndence was dumped in a cardboard box and when we find the correspondence we will just to get some of the *instuctual marking* called hand stamps will post it to photobucket.com. But in the meantime we will stick as closely as possible to listing only non -contraversial philatelic items.

Posted by sayasan ( 603

)

on Feb-10-07 at 05:17:45 PST

This one and three other like it came back in an Official Ireland Post Office envelope with an apology that the cover had been opened in Ireland completely ... they did not wish to spoil the obvious philatelic cover."

Ridiculous! The mark has been added last, after the cover was returned, and after a collector has opened it for display.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 05:09:40 PST

David Benson
For goodnss sake -you know I can't spell but still speak English better than the 8 listers.I have enough on my hands without spending hours responding to your accusations. We confronted the issue. Have given you the unusual option of telling us to delist an item if you have a good reason for doing so. Safe Harbor will do the same and if nothing more I have added some interesting cameos and anecdotes-that is all I have time for.I appreciate that you have when not wacking us given us some useful internet sites and references on the internet. But enough is enough.We will stick to our promise we made to Safe Harbor.Other than you and Richard ? (Sayasan)-the rest (no offence ) are tag alongs with the occasional comment that is relevant.(no offence). Now I I am been paged . A good sign and will be off the chat board for the next 8 days and who knows nobody likes the intense scrutiny you have subject our listing two and will take your advice and put a sock in it.

Posted by sayasan ( 603

)

on Feb-10-07 at 05:08:25 PST

- In case you're still reading, I'll spell it out for you, since you missed the point. The "MISSENT TO IRELAND" mark goes across the centre seam of the opened cover, i.e. it's on BOTH sides of the cover. The point being that it MUST have been added AFTER the cover was opened out. So it's a fake. QED. See?

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 04:55:46 PST

If you have further questions you can try and get me by email. Why don't you try and get some missent enevelopes yourself. It realtively easy to simply bambooze postal sorting stations. You are not dealing with highly educated people.Try the last option and who hows you may end up with a Royal Tour of the Caribbean and West Indies. But enough for today.I checking out.

Posted by bilbo ( 306

) on Feb-10-07 at 04:54:31 PST

Good morning all,

I'm wondering if some of you might be able to share some advice with me on this topic.

I have some of the modern US uncut sheets which are still sealed in the USPS shipping tubes and have never been opened. There is no apparent damage to the outside of the tubes at all.

My question is, which of you think I should list them as is, still sealed, and which of you think I should open them, fully describe their individual traits.

They are the Space Discoveries, and Humphrey Bogart issues, and I already realizse they have not appreciated, and if anything have depreciated.

I've seen then listed either way but have not followed them to ascertain which way is more preferred.

The same is somewhat true of some other modern sheetes I'll be listing which are still sealed in the USPS shrink wrap. Of course the major difference being the buyer can actually see the sheeet and its condition in the shrink wrap.

Any help will be appreciated.

Posted by dbenson ( 7833

)

on Feb-10-07 at 04:53:26 PST

I see John has gone back to his spelling of Gibralter the same spelling mistake that was added to the Croatian Card that was sent to Gibraltar to be soted by the Nazi Germany WWII clearing house in Gibraltar.

John, you can fool some of the people some of the time, etc., etc.,

David B.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 04:49:43 PST

Good Afternoon David Benson

I can assure you Safe Harbor stated they looked at eeverything and stated so.As for me catalogueing and listing-give me a break-I have spent more than enough time confronting the issue without getting even a remote solution.This is small forum. There are bigger ones who asked the same questions you ask. We confronted the issue.Accept Safe Harbors advice and will stick to it.

But nobody in this forum has offered a solution to the central question "how do you catalogue uncatalogued hand stamps". We have received endorsements from other forums but from eBay a simple no comment." If you are not sure don't list." They effectively elimate milions and millions of covers and postal stationery that are uncatalogued.

I don't know whether the delays in my flight are to my benefit or not but I prefer to confront the issue head on and avoid repeats of problematic covers.We have actually decided to move our little listing in a different direction away from philately. We are not idiots and each lot had 9 pairs of eyes before it is listed.

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)

on Feb-10-07 at 04:39:32 PST

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Posted by mini*lindy ( 316

)

on Feb-10-07 at 04:08:18 PST

OH David, She'll be grown up before you realize it.. hey, my Rob turned 40 (yikes!!) today. -- seems like just a few years ago when he was born at Canterbury District Hospital!!

Posted by dbenson ( 7833

)

on Feb-10-07 at 04:05:38 PST

Richard, Sayasan, I believe that there is more than one owner of the material but John is doing most of the listing but occasionally someone else does some,

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7833

)

on Feb-10-07 at 04:03:14 PST

Richard, Sayasan, well done, the handstamp is over the opened out envelope, missed that one and so did the buyer and sloppy John when he handstamped it.

It is a pity that the Ebay, Safeharbor SWC & the APS reps. he has been in contact with didn't ask him how that one occurred or he would still be trying to figure out an answer that they would swallow,

Linda, why does a song by Maurice Chevalier about Little Girls come to mind,

David B.

Posted by rolyrj ( 2 ) on Feb-10-07 at 03:50:22 PST

Jonathondean;
The only thing I do believe is that you do have a degree in Bovine Scatology. Congratulations.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 03:40:21 PST

rolyrj

Point made. It should read better part of 4 decades.This lot has a clear picture and did not have to have the long commentary. The bulk of Professor Ethel Drus's collection are fronts addressed to the same company from all over the world from the 40's to the 70's. They all have classical stamps and a red receiving hand stamp (private) ofthe company and burnt . Some aren't I have been told bit she only kept the front (not exactly a philatelist action). If you curious. The first Packet Act was passed by the UK Government in 1815 and yes it is a bit baffling why the Cook Islands accept a New Zealand stamp.No issue about the date postmark. If it was carried to New Zealand-there is a picture of the indigenous Cook Island wooden and reed boat in the atlas reference David Benson supplied. If it was carried by boat even Island hoping to New Zealand it was one hellava trip.Other than the South Pacific Island this company supplied basic commodities to the Atlantic Islands, East and West Coast of Africa, South Africa, Caribbean, West Indies, Iceland, Middle East and Asia Pacific Rim Area-and that is simply from the fronts in ger collection but problematic if it has an uncatalogued hand stamp.

The problem here is that we have placed I think two in our listings and received 40 emails asking us to place more or sell them directly to collectors who collect disaster and burnt mail. That we will not do. But to put more on ebay listings incurs the wrath of yourself and others because nobody has produced a specialised damaged by fire, damaged by water , damaged by fire and water etc auxiliary hand stamp catalogue and in the 20 books and catalogues on disaster mail , the auxiliary hand stamp is made for the occasion and not a general "in the event of" hand stamp as the NY storting station had on hand in the 30's.

But your point is made and taken. Thank you. If you want to correct the mathematics of any other lots please feel free to sent me an email.Internal or external. After this one if my plane is delayed again and it just has been , I am swopping to Family business.You can get on with your ABC game now. No offence I think it is a nice idea leading no where -nice chat small talk. You will have 8 free days after this message and I hope there is not another one waiting for me. If there is. My apologizes for not responding immediately. If it it is urgent. You know my email address.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-10-07 at 03:25:56 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s a Kokomo Stamp Club card from What Cheer, Iowa.

And here’s a Wedding Cake
click here.

Jim L.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 03:07:56 PST

sayasan
Who cares whether the collection is Gold or not. It is problematic as it has related hand stamps that are not catalogued.I am not a philatelic judge or have ever read a book on what they look for.

I can spell Picaso, Guagan, Mirro, Chagal, Brack wrongly too in addition to Teriade, Mourlot and Draeger Freres as Linda will testify. I just hope it is spelt correctly in the listing.But we are not Anglo-Saxons and no matter how long we are resident in a English speaking country unless we first write the mesage in a Word document we will have spelling mistakes either because the spell checker has been set to British English or US English and fequently it does not pick up a word completely wrongly spelt because it happens to be another acceptible word in the US or British lexicon.I have given up proof reading these mesages. I simply am to busy and have come to the conclusion that it is a useful sight if you follow the ABC game you play, nice idea-it leads to interesting points and illustrations and references.But if I spelt Mattisse or Matise or Matice wrongly, I hope it is spelt correctly in the description.We do correct some misspellings if we can and notice them.But the eBay spell checker adds 20 to 25 minutes to a listing which takes us on average 30 minutes to an hour sometimes. If our spelling offends you. Well unlike you none of rate it as our first or second language and probably I can add that I am typing blind at 40 to 60 words a minute and don't have the inclination to proof read it.

Posted by rolyrj ( 2 ) on Feb-10-07 at 03:07:10 PST

Jonathandean
Can you please explain your lack of mathmatical skill in your auction 150062813087 ? And you claim to be a highly educated man. The poor winner of this auction should have done the maths as well. The auction states that the burnt envelope has been sealed in a plastic bag for 4 decades. (40 years). Have a look at the cancel and the writting on the selvedge of the stamp and it clearly shows 1974. Now my maths says that 2007 - 1974 = 33yrs not 4 decades.
Further all that crap about wooden and reed boats etc. Even a very rudimentary knowledge of Pacific history would tell you how rediculous that verbal diahorea is. And you managed to suck in a buyer for $69 odd dollars for this fake crap. You should be strung up.

Posted by dragonstamps ( 446

) on Feb-10-07 at 03:01:55 PST

Jonathandean8: I think you are on a flight right now, a bad flight.

Maybe you should land?

Posted by sayasan ( 603

)

on Feb-10-07 at 02:52:00 PST

Except - on this one, the cover appears to have been opened out. The uncut end of the cover is in the centre, and passes vertically between the panels in the seal. But the "MISSENT TO IRELAND" mark is placed across this centre line. Hmm. How could that happen, then?

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 02:50:23 PST

stampmad

Still waiting but flight has been called but this is the last. Haven't assigned a lister to Australia collections yet. I am sure we have contemporary ones. We don't only send to capitals of UPU countries but to all the provinces in them. Australia's States auxiliary hand stamps are good examples of copying existing hand stamps. Largely those listed by the US -the finger pointing RTS is a good example and received in bad condition variations another. I am sure that some of the towns and cities must have had missent hand stamps like most US post offices and there the high was 80.000. Ask David Benson-he has catalogued in excess of 10,000 covers and probably most were Australian or in your part of the world.Some of the more contempory ones are simply a date stamp of a town with a correct postal code but wrong name Fairview, Fairpark. Fairland. We have a repeat buyer from Fairview and on one or two occasions the parcel was returned despite having the correct postal code but wrong town name. More than once it was delivered to the postal code town.But have not looked at the collections we have.There are some excellent catalogues on Queensland postal history. But let me say no, I haven't seen any, but equally haven't really looked. David Benson is a better reference.Sorry

Lindy.
I did not see your question. At any one moment there must be 10 to 20 airports with bomb scares -it would not make the newspapers unless it was a real biggy like Heathrow and this wasn't one just me not paying attention.

I actually find "chatting" very time consuming.So when I get back I may respond to some comments but will leave ready the comments to someone else in the family.

But I have more pressing business emails and really should devote my time to those.

Call us what you want. At least we tacked the tricky problem head on with the limited audiance of the eBay chatboard, Safe Harbor, Ebay Customer Services (at least 4 different committees) and the Ebay Listing Commitee. Unfortunately we did not get a policy statement from either but neither did that dismiss outright the comment we have been making. They had some positive comments on how to improve the accompaning photograph but that is about it. The photograph can always be cut andpasted to a Word docuent and from there pblow up at least another 250% before sistortion occurs. Just by the way.

Posted by sayasan ( 603

)

on Feb-10-07 at 02:26:45 PST

Now we're all rattling the cage.

jd - Now you say - "It would probably be a Gold Medal collection if reduced to 40 frames." But you're on record already as saying that it was a gold medal collection. That statement is in your feedback of January 3. Look, it's simple - you're wasting your time (and ours) by trying to persuade us that any of this is more than your fantasy, airport scenario included. So please just give it up as a bad job.

D2 - Do you really buy the eight listers story? Because although jd's spelling errors are usually just his fingers hitting the keyboard badly - e.g. d for s, dock for sock etc - one name he can't spell is Matisse - at 20:49 he writes "Mattise" - exactly how it's spelt in the listing with the neg feedback. Hardly coincidence. So the prints, at least, are listed by the "jd" who posts here. I'd imagine that everything is.

And now I'm going to shut up about all this.

Posted by stampmad ( 1083

)

on Feb-10-07 at 02:17:45 PST

Jonathandean8 You had mentioned early on that you had Missent handstamps pertaining to Queensland. Is that the colonial period? If so, I would be interested in seeing them.

Marius
and since some have declared their religious stance you can class me the resident atheist.... with a wry smile.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 01:36:38 PST

thebriguy1

Still here for another minute. You joke as much as you like about why mail is delayed why it acquires the "Delayed By..." During the Tsunami aftermath, dozens of groups both official and unofficial flew into the areas hit by the Tsunami (the first one) and reestablished bureacracies which included postal services and on some RTS mail we sent by registered and ordinary mail are at least 2 dozen PRIVATE hand stamps ,sometimes lengthy but most appealling for financial assistance of on the covers " that returned immediately.

David Benson mentioned that some postal agencies "destroy" undelivered mail. This would contravene at least a number of clauses of the UPU regulations if there was a return address. Nice one, thebriguy1, but was too involved with a conference call- the problem was snow on the run way-and if there was bomb scare they would have probably logically chuck us out of the airport.It is such a regular occurance (unattended luggage in Europe, it would not make the newspapers and if you phoned the airport Linda you would get an evasive no-comment). It is no big deal unless you are not use airports that haven't contingency plans-Heathrow of airports made themselves laughing stocks (Linda is that the correct expression). They have Sophisticated xray machines, even do a body pat down search, before making you walk through a metal detector Give me a break on logic). Look at how they over reacted a month ago from giving you a plastic bag to put your passport and tooth brush in(carry on luggage) to going back to the old policy and letting you carry your notebook on board.They have installed the same xray high technology at Ben Gurion Airport (Israel) that detects some most plastic explosives.

Posted by dragonstamps ( 446

) on Feb-10-07 at 01:12:18 PST

This is why I have chosen the collecting path I follow.
I buy a lot of stamps in bulk, for low prices. Some are heavily duplicated, some are fakes perhaps, and some are hidden gems, waiting to be found. I have fun and I don't get annoyed by fakes. Anything I don't want I can usually sell for a slight profit, perhaps.

I suspected that most makers of notorious items would keep quiet about them, but I guess not all follow that notion.

BTW, still very little snow here in the northeast U.S.A. but it's been cold, not bitter, but cold enough.

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-10-07 at 01:11:21 PST

Ah ha ha ha ha. Be nice, our little forger has already missed nine imaginary flights, leaving his non existant airport already.

I'm guessing the next fake handstamp he creates will read "Mail delayed by uncataloged chat posting emergency".

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 00:50:26 PST

Sorry. I am now off.If only I could spell, I could contribute to dozen's of reptable stamp jornals and get the stigma of "uncatalogued" = foul, fake, forgery off our backs.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 316

)

on Feb-10-07 at 00:48:03 PST

WHICH AIRPORT??? name it!

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 00:45:02 PST

iomoon

Call me what you like. At least I am confronting the problem of "uncatalogued hand stamps" head on. It is a problem both seller , in particular face, and buyer.

At least I had the curtesy to send a repeat buyer of *instructional markings* on a cover emails drawing his attention to the fact that they and millions of other were not catalogued or had not appeared in a reputable publication. I got always a "we don't give a damn response" from the buyer. Unfortunately we do. Sice we keep a print out of all the items we have listed so far 603 hand stamps are not catalogued and carried the comment, not the disclaimer "that some of the hand stamps on this cover are uncatalogued and should be regarded as *instructional markings* not philatelic hand stamps". Wecan reduce that number by half from email we have received with references where the hand stamp can be found and some have equally appeared in reputable philatelic publications (positive articles with similar illustrations from other sources). We can be a great source for new contemporary hand stamps such as those on the Tahiti Cover or Dominica cover and equally the vast uncatalogued area of Damaged by Water, Fire,Salt Water and other mini disasters that did not quite make the 20 or more catalogues on disasters.Be it a small fire started in a 1930 sorting room that failed to make the newspapers, mailbags left in snow (yes-on some of the 1st canadian flights -we have something of that sort), Intrepid Weather Delayed (appeared in a Linn Magazine frivolous column along with Damaged by Vandelism, not just a US problem byt UK and other British Commonwealth problem) or the packet mail (and called as such in the UK Parliamentary Act of 1815) and not by the French equivalent. On the question of even more tricky "Missent" hand stamp like on the Dominica cover it dispels the illusion that it was not applied on RTS covers. We can even offer you the new UK Missent hand stamp that is supposed toreplace Missent to London Redirected and place but not large enough obviously boxed small black and stamp and the equally frequently used one "mailnag missent to the UK" both verified in correspondence.The new UK missent is a loarge light blie oval hand stamp that finally despite an estimate 600 UK missent hand stamps, spells miss sent as two words and yes, probably are correst, yet the earliest ones are UK hand stamps and the rest of the world followed suit with missent. Given that there are perhaps 10,000 missent Us hand stamps the question is one of lingistics-why did it not enter the major Random House, Houghtin Mifflin catalogues as a neologism.We can also offer you English missent hand stamps from the whole of the Asia Pacific Rim Area on dozens of different covers sent from different countries. Only Macau still has one in Portugese, French and English. Obviously these hand stamps differ from those used locally in the script and dialect of the specific Nation but English now has and will continue to replace French as the International Language of the International Postal Services despite the guidelines of the UPU.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-10-07 at 00:09:37 PST

chaswilly

Bomb scare in the airport. That goodness for grequent flyer lounges that fall beyond evacuation of the airport.It must be -10 degres outside.
No offence re your question about Christ -yes , but who cares. You may get a different answer on a different ebay chat board.

Let me tell you a little anecdote about Chistians and Jews. One of the little known investors in stamps in South Africa was the late Harry Openheimer. If you have never heard of him , his father Sir Ernest consolidated gold and other mining companies into De Beers "A Diamond is for Ever" now part Anglo American (gold and other mineral companies and a controlling share of Minorco which as mines outside of South afroca on every continent) and now directly controlled by the Oppenheimer family following a $41 share buy out of De Beers which is now a private company. Harry had two children. His daughter married and divorced Gorden Waddell (for those of you who follow British Rugby- the same one who played for England the British Lions), a superb financial administration who turned JCI Johannesburg Consolidated Investments ) as Chairman into a powerhouse of investments but controlled by the Oppenheimers.It was turned over to a Group of Black and Indian investors after Nelson Mandela came to power and subsequently so badly mismanaged that it went insovent. Harry's son Nicho;as continued the family tradition and became Chairman of both De Beers and Anglo American for a while, but was more interested in his private cricket team. He may be back at the helm of Anglo American now that it is s consolidated with Minorco is foreign arm in mining companies and De Beers (still the largest diamand company in the world).Harry had a barmitzva and his father is buried in a Jewish cemetary, but Harry married a Christian (since he also was never seen in Church-he equally did not give a damn about religion). His son Nicholas married a Protestant and their first two children were boys who were diagnosed with the gene / very prodominantly once Jewish Disease (if you live in Israel you are tested for it, before the Rabbinate give you the okay to marry) called tay sacks (sort of Parkinson's disease but from day 1 of your life and by 5 the kid is either dead or rigid as what ever the expression is.Both parents have to be carriers. Not the billions of the Oppenheimers could say these kids.It transpires that Nicholas wife is either of Jewish ancestry since she also carried the gene or from they originate from a small German village where the disease is also prevalent. But the Oppenheimers probably have the finest collection of Cape Colony, VOC, Mafeking postal and history and stamps. Hary donated his collection of Africana to the University of Cape Town, Special Collection in Jagger Library, along with a couple of buildings. Cecil J. Rhodes donated the large estate on Devil's peak to establish the University, and lower down Groot Schuur estate , the official residence of the President,(first heart transplant) and Cecil who was not married left part of his estate to establish if course international Rhodes Scholarships (I think only 4 are given each year to South African-the rest internationally) and of which the most famous reciprient is Bill Clinton.. There is a huge memorial to Rhodes on the estate and the hall where degrees are given is called Jameson hall after Starky Jameson, who led the 1st raid into the Transvaal and started the short lived 1st Anglo Boer War.He was Cecil's medical doctor. Lord Alfred Milner was the Governor. Cecil the PM. If you look at the names on the contemporary covers sent in the 70's and 80's- that you have had problems with- the names reoccur to dead addresses. On purpose, as a pointer that the cover was sent to test the postal system of the destination country and collect auxiliary hand stamps - it is just a pity that we are not in the philatelic business or have time to catalogue these 4 decades and 10's of thousands of covers that came back. Not sure what happened to Harry's collection. He did indicate during his lifetime that he would like it donated to a National Postal Museum in South Africa. Harry was was a classic liberal and MP and broke away in 1959 with Helen Suzman and others to form the liberal opposition Progress Party and financed the party during her decade of being its only MP until it developed into what is now the liberal Democratic Party headed by another jew Tony Leon. Harry was hounded by the Afrikaans press throughout hs life as Mr.Hogenheimer. And other than a decade old presence before the 1992 turnover to Black rule he have no dirrect connection except as with many Jewish families who fled the pograms at the end of the 19th and early 20th century -one of 6 children settled in South Africa and the decemdants have left for the 4 corners of the world. The balance went to Switzerland, UK, and USA. REliion is an interesting thematic theme in philately but stick to philately in eBays Stamp Chat Board.

And if you have a good recommendation on how to catalogue "uncatalogued hand stamps" lets hear it.

Posted by vinnysf ( 300

) on Feb-10-07 at 00:05:21 PST

jaywild ... a while ago you posted this is the so-so corral (as opposed to the O.K. corral) lol... recently, its been more like the K.O. corral!

Posted by ed845 ( 4323

) on Feb-09-07 at 23:44:52 PST

prochute

A few weeks back you posted a threat of violence towards me on this board. This is not in my head it is a matter of fact and anyone saving this board can easily bring up your post.

I think the only agency that would be slightly interested in anything is the one that deals with mental capacity in the USA which in your case is surely lacking.

Posted by vinnysf ( 300

) on Feb-09-07 at 23:43:28 PST

out of all the authentic stamps i have for sale right now its the confederate forgeries that gets the most bids. go figure. i can't believe that..i dunno if i should be surprised by that or not

Posted by mini*lindy ( 316

)

on Feb-09-07 at 23:17:44 PST

Oh My goodness!!! David, what a lovely family photo, gee she's grown a lot since I last saw her! Oh you all look great!
L.

Posted by dbenson ( 7833

)

on Feb-09-07 at 21:31:39 PST

Jay, thanks, she will be 16 in May and she is now doing very well at school, just started year 11, high school goes up to year 12 then university,
She shows very little interest in stamps even though both parents are philatelic and she has most probably been to about 20-25 major exhibitions including about 15 overseas since she was a baby,

David B.

Posted by jaywild ( 915

)

on Feb-09-07 at 21:27:23 PST

D2… Here is your link. Yep, my suspicions are confirmed. She is quite lovely. Nice family picture!

Posted by dbenson ( 7833

)

on Feb-09-07 at 21:26:47 PST

trying again,

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r256/deebee444/PhotoCanvas.jpg

Posted by chaswilly ( 1594

) on Feb-09-07 at 21:19:50 PST

NOIP Pardon my frivolity, but wasnt't Christ a Jew?

Posted by jaywild ( 915

)

on Feb-09-07 at 21:05:45 PST

D2… No offense, but how did you get such a cute daughter???

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 915

)

on Feb-09-07 at 21:04:11 PST

Thank you God…

Jim

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-09-07 at 20:52:08 PST

Well my plane has been called and will be off line for the next 6-8 days probably.I have no idea what the attraction of this Chat Board is.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-09-07 at 20:49:20 PST

sayasan

By the way loved your fake Picasso Gallery-were any sold?. I spent the greater art of January in the Asia Pacific Rim Area (posted 10's of thousands of envelopes that you may see in 20 years) and met with 80 odd manufacturers. In myspare time I went to see some Chinese Art Workshops that one of the listers had said she found facinating and even Picasso , Mattise, Moro, Constable, Cezanne,Harding, Warhol and other Pop Art /Modern paiters would have to look twice and twice again before saying "that's not mine". Their ability to copy oil paintings and watercolours is quite amazing and even more so to paint in the style of well known Artists. Quite amazing. I went to a few of these Workshops out of curiosity and had time to kill and the head of the co-operative even said the brush strokes of some of the copies were identical anything to make a sale which she didn't. Interesting but disturbing.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-09-07 at 20:32:16 PST

sayasan
You seem preoccupied with titles another thing our family couldn't give a damn about.

Stick to stamps. This is afterall a Stamp Chat Board.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-09-07 at 20:29:39 PST

sayasan
Gold medal issue or not. I have just been informed that amongst the collections she gave me (for the "Family Alternative Hedgefund) are a variety of medals three appear to be philatelic , other academic. I mentioned a few of her unusual collections but so is an Anglo Boer War Collection in Frames and others I am told. But devoid of philatelic terminology. I assume with multiple doctorates and 3 decades at Southampton University she attained the status of a Professor. I wonce interrupted a meeting in ger large flat with doctoral students of hers that all referred to her as "Professor". Does it make any difference. Had she taken up a position in the US she would have attained the position by "tenure"? I think.

Posted by jaywild ( 915

)

on Feb-09-07 at 20:27:13 PST

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the swamp…

Jim

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 582

) on Feb-09-07 at 20:13:55 PST

sayasan
What we got from Professor drus was over 200 frames of postal history and a large box of surplus material all aademicly researched. She was an academic first and foremost. The frames of devoid of philatelic terminology and may neverhave been exhibited. It was one of a number of hobbies and collecting intertest. It would probably be a Gold Medal collection if reduced to 40 frames.There are some real rarities of disaster mail including a Hinderburgh cover one of 400 hat survived with certification .

and forgoodness sake -our family have never been religious even though we have Holocaust auschwitz survivors in the immediate family and 6 perished there.Jewish in origin but three of the 8 listers are not married to Jews and I with 4 kids not married to her long time and only partner at all. Marriage is a dying institution. No don't comment here, I am sure there is a Ebay chat Board for that, stick to stamps. I am married to women whose family left Iran in the 60's, two of her brothers are married to liberal women from liberal families of Hindu and Muslim. origins. Religion is not a factor. Stick to stamps.

Posted by prochute ( 65

) on Feb-09-07 at 20:13:01 PST

ED Any threat of violence resides in your head and no where else.

The ADL is looking into your anti-semitic remark, "middle eastern" yada yada yada. Another agency is looking into your anti-hispanic remark.

I too am Jewish so I can mention kosher salt any time and any way I wish to. Besides, salt is salt is NaCl.

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-09-07 at 19:42:35 PST

Please, don't think for a minute, that my disgust for our forger is based in any religious bias. I just don't like forgers. Be they Jewish, Christian, Islamic, Wiccaan or whatever fogers.

My hope without favoritism or discrimination,...is that they all step on land mines. :o)

Posted by jaywild ( 915

)

on Feb-09-07 at 19:38:07 PST

due2cents… Must have been something on my end. Now the link works.

Cute kid!!!!!!!

Jim

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-09-07 at 19:29:20 PST

Thanks LINDA

she would want me to point out
It is a TRIangle Stamp . Her passion is those 3 sided
pieces of Gummed paper . We have most already But as most philatelists can imagine there are a few of the earlies still leaving holes in her album.
Although I think I noticed a CoGH 13 and 14 in her Valentine card from Grandmother.

Posted by g.1 ( 1067

)

on Feb-09-07 at 19:24:17 PST

I'm Jewish too -- but I'm pretty tough to offend.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 316

)

on Feb-09-07 at 19:04:40 PST

pro nope! I just saw a sweet little girl with a butterfly stamp! keep up the good work, we need juniors and girls! as collectors.

Linda

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-09-07 at 18:52:27 PST

Jaywild
I have no clue as to problem Just a photo
I took with My camera loaded to Imagecave.

Anyone else have Trouble

Stamphick Growing like a bad weed.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-09-07 at 18:32:23 PST

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s a George Washington lean from some Kokomo Stamp Club cards:
The Washington Monument,

A Stewart like likeness

and a
bi-color profile.

Jim L.

Posted by stamphick! ( 334

) on Feb-09-07 at 18:19:08 PST

due2cents..Nice looking collector. I remember when she was just a little squirt.

Posted by jaywild ( 915

)

on Feb-09-07 at 18:12:51 PST

due2cents… Your link went nowhere, but immediately after trying it my computer froze and forced me to reboot.

Jim

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-09-07 at 17:47:02 PST

Beware this is the Future of your hobby. :-)

Posted by sneeky37 ( 232

)

on Feb-09-07 at 17:45:57 PST

A VERY GOOD EVENING TO ALL !!!

Posted by stamphick! ( 334

) on Feb-09-07 at 17:02:21 PST

antonius-ra ...It doesn't have to be anti semitic really. Being offended is an American tradition and we all should take every possible opportunity to be offended.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Feb-09-07 at 16:47:17 PST

Io So is Victor and several others, I would think. I can't recall an anti semitic comment ever posted on this board. You do not have to be of any particular race or religion to be a jerk, they all have them.

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-09-07 at 16:29:11 PST

David

Sure, if you want to be. :-)

Posted by stamphick! ( 334

) on Feb-09-07 at 16:27:56 PST

I'm Jewish Can I be offended too?

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-09-07 at 16:21:52 PST

Prochute

It may not have registered very well, but the Anti-defamation league is a Jewish based organization whose primary concern is defamation directed toward the Jewish community (rather than the Hispanic community).

Of the regular posters to this board, D2, DJS, and Anne have indicated an adherence to the Jewish faith. We might assume that Johnathan is also Jewish but the fact that it is D2 who is constantly railing him has nothing to do with religious discrimination.

The fact that Brian calls him SCUM has nothing to do with discrimination. To my mind, it is a statement of personal opinion (and probably fact).

I think Mitchel wrongly associates the said person with an hispanic floridian. There is room for more than one total egotistic, misguided, rip-off artist (too kind) in this world.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Feb-09-07 at 15:44:52 PST

Prochute HUH? Why are you adressing me?

Posted by ed845 ( 4323

) on Feb-09-07 at 15:23:55 PST

prochute

I think you should be concerned about racist posts on this board as it was you who made the comment towards an esteemed board member about 'blessings with kosher salt'.

And threats of violence towards me make me even more determined.

Posted by breffington ( 349

) on Feb-09-07 at 14:58:47 PST

Hi guys,Awhile back I had asked for advice on how to eliminate a musty odor from pages and albums. I believe someone on the board suggested kitty litter as a deodorizer. I confirmed the suggestion with some research on the internet and gave it a try. I put the album in a plastic bag with two cups of fresh kitty litter, squezzed as much air out as I could, sealed the bag with a twist and left it for a week. It worked like a charm. Most of the odor was gone and at that point it smelled like an old book which was OK. I sold the albums and had no problems. Frank

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-09-07 at 14:42:09 PST

Alec Well the rugby team did OK last weekend:-) (or had you forgotten....:-)
Peter

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-09-07 at 14:41:59 PST

Alec

I wouldn't even dream of mentioning how the lowlands Scots massacred the highlands Scots in Glencoe!!

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-09-07 at 14:33:18 PST

IO/Jim But oh how the mighty have fallen :-)

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-09-07 at 14:26:14 PST

OK Linda (and alec), two (or 11 can play that game!!

England winners:

Football (Soccer)

Rugby

Cricket

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3381

)

on Feb-09-07 at 12:00:04 PST

Hi Mini-Lindy I finally figured that out after my last post. I had to use their pic upload tool, then delete the main pic so I wouldn't have 2 larg images, as I link in my description to my images. Whew.

I do like the larger description box, and the new format seems to cut out a lot of unnecessary boilerplate.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Jeff

Posted by mini*lindy ( 316

)

on Feb-09-07 at 11:47:44 PST

p/h-Jeff. I have been using the new ebay listing form for all listings since it was introduced. The photoupload is the only thing Im not too keen on.
You have to host your FIRST pic on the ebay free photo and check the Gallery Box, as this is the only pic you can use as a Gallery. (I upload from my pc using the ebay option Basic) I then, instead of using ebay pics for the others at .15c each, I add the rest to my description box (using the HTML Tab) direct from photobucket.

However, I ony do a few a week (on my other ''selling'' id) and I dont have a store.

hope this makes some sense, Im not very good at explaining computer things!!!

oppps!!! Sorry Alec I'll wait 'till the Rugby Season, or the Soccer or the Highland Games!!

Oh, and in a feeble attempt to keep my post Philatelic....
W is for WINNERS ARE GRINNERS ! Aussie Winners
...

Linda

Posted by dbenson ( 7830

)

on Feb-09-07 at 11:37:57 PST

Alec, there has always been 8 listers and most are honest and reliable and list good material, there is only one bad shekel in the bunch and he has sweetalked Ebay & the SCW into allowing him to play with words in his descriptions into of booting him,

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-09-07 at 11:25:42 PST

Alec

It's not that long a story.

Hadrian's Wall 122
Antonine Wall 142
Dunbar 1296
Stirling 1297
Falkirk 1298
Bannockburn 1314
Halidon Hill 1333
Nevilles Cross 1346
Chevy Chase 1388
Flodden 1513

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-09-07 at 11:08:02 PST

JD Saga Personally I am sick to death of the whole thing. The more people respond the proverbial bad penny keeps on coming back. To make matters worse there are 8 of the blighters now. So follow Linda's advice and ignore the egoistic poster.

Linda Please do not associate me as being English. I am Scottish !!! As such when it comes to sports I could never bring myself to support the , "Auld Enemy". It could be a game of tiddly winks and I'd be supporting the opposition. Cricket to me is boring, boring, boring.
I hasten to add I am not racist as my wife is English. So you can imagine the battle lines in our house whenever Scotland play England :-)
For the non Brits it is a long story as to why England and Scotland simply don't get along when it comes to sport.

Posted by prochute ( 65

) on Feb-09-07 at 10:31:37 PST

antonius-ra et,al As a follow up to making the Anti Defamation League aware of certain "biased" posts here about 10 days ago, their counsel has imformed me the posts, according to their guidelines, were indeed of a biased nature towards Semites and Hispanics. They are working with the authorities to bring about a solution to thia incedence. We ALL should be deeply offended and concerned.

Phil

Posted by sayasan ( 602

)

on Feb-09-07 at 09:44:41 PST

I know he can't back up his claim about the medal. It's just that I still harbour this delusion, in which I imagine that, backed into a corner, a faker might just one day put his hands up and say "It's a fair cop. I lied." Maybe you have a more realistic view of human nature than I do ...

Posted by sayasan ( 602

)

on Feb-09-07 at 09:40:55 PST

Brian - OK, OK. I'll stop prodding the cage if you prefer.

Posted by antonius-ra ( 615

)

on Feb-09-07 at 09:37:12 PST

Addie Just go away.

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-09-07 at 09:19:13 PST

sayasan Of course he can't. Like everything else in his discriptions, the claim is invented. He is a piece of SCUM.

Lindy pegged it earlier, when she said "don't feed the troll". Thats sound advice we should all follow. He's a worthless piece of chit, and the sooner EBay NARU's him the better.

Johnanddean Here's a secret. There is a large horde of covers hidden near you, ones with actual REAL auxiliaries on them. They are burried in the strip of land which lies between the barb wire fences on the Israeli/Syrian border. Go there. Stomp around until you find it.

Posted by djs127 ( 572

)

on Feb-09-07 at 08:36:47 PST

I was wondering if any of the dealers on this chat still send out paper or email price lists of individual stamps from their sales sheets or 102 cards? Or do you just sell collections on Ebay as soon as you get them. The reason I ask is that my previous strategy was to purchase collections and lots at 5-15% of scott catalog and then break them up and start individual high value stamps at 20% of scott catalog. That left a number of stamps in 102 cards and sales sheets so I started to create price lists for some countries based upon what people bought from me on Ebay.

Just yesterday I received a check for $11.47 for a few stamps from 2 different country price lists.

Ine the last month I decided to take stamps I needed for my worldwide used collection from Ebay collections and then sell the remainders on Ebay as a collection.
I was not sure what others are doing and wanted to hear from them as to their success?
David Snyder

Posted by sayasan ( 602

)

on Feb-09-07 at 08:20:10 PST

"jonathandean" - on your feedback response of January 3 (Raratonga "packet mail" burnt cover) you state "ex-Gold Medal Col of late Professor E. Drus.Crash.& Burnt Mail. Over 200 frames". You have already made it clear that Professor Drus (by the way, are you sure she was a professor?) was "not a philatelist". Even so, it seems she won a gold medal with this collection. Can you say when this medal was won, and at which exhibition?

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-09-07 at 08:09:20 PST

dbenson
This is what happens when you are in a rush.
Will take your advoce about a dock . Will have to in the next 6 days unless the crappy hotels of inland Sri Lanka have internet in the rooms.Doubt it. Will be taking 5000 envelopes to post and all of the listers do the same. You many see them in 20 years. Got your message in Hebrew. The letter chain come out backwards on the chat site. Open to any direct questions to my eBay email address or their 1000 internal mail.

Should read
Will take your advice about a sock . Will be on a business trip to Sri Lanka for next 8 days in crappy hotels in the inland areas of Sri Lanka and doubt if any have have internet in the rooms. Will be taking 5000 envelopes to post and all of the listers do the same on trips they make. You many see them in 20 years. Got your message in Hebrew. The letter chain come out backwards on the chat site. Open to any direct questions to my eBay email or eBays internal email which is limited to 1000 characters.

Will let you continue with your ABC game. Doesn't anyone have a good dictionary of philatelic terms . There are a dozen on the Internet.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-09-07 at 08:00:46 PST

jaywild
Srry Jim it was jayclark but then I havent got half way through the 1300 positive feed backs. Tke your word for it. Not an issue.a

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-09-07 at 07:47:07 PST

Iomoon - Thank you for the corrections. I have changed the wordings and it now look like this

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3381

)

on Feb-09-07 at 07:09:32 PST

Is anyone else dealing with a new format of the listing page? I started getting it intermittently until a couple months ago then it was back to the old (current) format. Well today I get it again.

My question is regarding posting a gallery pic. There is clearly a check box for adding a gallery pic but there is no box to enter the html link.

Sure can use some help here.

Jeff

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-09-07 at 07:08:58 PST

jonathandean8… I took the liberty of researching your feedback, and contrary to your claim, there was never any positive feedback posted to you by me. I went through every page of the feedback you've received.

Jim

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-09-07 at 06:45:37 PST

Good day all.

From a cool west Texas.

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Feb-09-07 at 06:15:49 PST

Welcome to the eBay Stamps Chat Board!

It would be greatly appreciated if chat board participants
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rather than posting them directly to this board.
Here's how to post a LINK. Thanks.

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Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-09-07 at 04:33:19 PST

dbenson
Will take your advoce about a dock . Will have to in the next 6 days unless the crappy hotels of inland Sri Lanka have internet in the rooms.Doubt it. Will be taking 5000 envelopes to post and all of the listers do the same. You many see them in 20 years. Got your message in Hebrew. The letter chain come out backwards on the chat site. Open to any direct questions to my eBay email address or their 1000 internal mail.

Posted by jimbo ( 386

)

on Feb-09-07 at 04:06:08 PST

Rainer,
I should also have pointed out that the location of the overprint (low - about 0.3 up the stamp vs about 0.7 up the stamp) on the 8d, 1/, and 2/ is consistent with the 1963-4 printings with new watermark. There are some of the 1962 issue which have the lower overprints but they are uncommon.

jimbo

Posted by jimbo ( 386

)

on Feb-09-07 at 03:54:24 PST

Rainer,
Your Jamaican stamps are identified by the watermark. If they are waternarked with a multiple crown and script CA, then they are from the first Independence issue of 1962 (SG 181-185,187-190). If, however, they are watermarked with multiple St. Edwards crown and block CA, they are from the 1963-64 printings (SG 205-213). The St. Edwards crown is a simpler design than the earlier crown.

My inclination would be to look carefully at the watermarks as they would comprise a complete set of the 1963-1964 issue.

jimbo
PS: My SG number citations may not be current as my copy is from 1999.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 316

)

on Feb-09-07 at 03:34:57 PST

Peter, Ed, Alec and all our other English friends.... well done! that was one great game, gee talk about a nail biter!!!!

now, can we make it interesting and go for a 3rd match?

Linda

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-09-07 at 03:31:54 PST

Well done guys, that was a hell of a game of cricket down under!
Peter

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-09-07 at 02:49:28 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s some Kokomo Stamp Club cards with Christmas Wreaths:

card 21-12.

card 47-12.

card 48-12.

Jim L.

Posted by dragonstamps ( 446

) on Feb-09-07 at 02:11:16 PST

Still 54 I think.

Posted by 22028 ( 1552

)

on Feb-09-07 at 02:10:09 PST

Thanks..., the non working link, a "g" at the end was missing.
Dominica, SG-No. 54, http://fuchs-online.com/auction/dominica-85.jpg

Posted by dragonstamps ( 446

) on Feb-09-07 at 02:05:23 PST

The Montserrat are 36,38,39,40,43,44,45,46,47.
And I think it's only missing the 1/2, the #35.
There isn't a 37,41,42?

Posted by dbenson ( 7830

)

on Feb-09-07 at 01:58:01 PST

22028,

Gibbosn are always changing numbers which is one of the reasons that most describers don't quote Gibbons numbers as unless you are using the latest edition,

Barbados OK
Bermuda 130-133
Bermuda 133
Dominica if Mult. CA 88, if Script CA 90
Dominica can't open
India 325-328
Jamaica 180-189
Montserrat 36-47
Southern Rhodesia 78-91

David B.

Posted by 22028 ( 1552

)

on Feb-09-07 at 01:22:18 PST

Posted by dbenson ( 7830

)

on Feb-09-07 at 00:38:01 PST

Jonathan, I found this on Google, it may explain what the expression means,

???, ?????, ???, ??????

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7830

)

on Feb-09-07 at 00:33:53 PST

Jonathan, how can I say something without offending you or your extremely wealthy & brainy relatives & forebears,

I know,

PUT A SOCK IN IT,

David B.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-08-07 at 22:53:51 PST

jaywild
Wikipedia- Thank but there is not a blond or peroxide blond in the family. I think she lost her case on the $87? milllion inheritance.In Time this week with the cover of a Brain and how it functions ( I won't sling at a retort on how yours functions but recall purchasing something from you and paying promptly- you even left positive feed back ). Any way in Time Magazine in the statistic column they mention that Wikipedia has been sighted in over 100 Lower Court cases and 24 Federal court cases. It is a wonderful source of information and would receive financial support from us, if we knew where it went.

Posted by dragonstamps ( 446

) on Feb-08-07 at 22:44:47 PST

Billsey: My catalog shows 416b to be a 416 paired vertically with a 416a. So they should be 14x13.5 and 14x14.5 I think, if I'm reading it correctly.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-08-07 at 22:41:52 PST

My emails seem to be disturbing the ABC game you are playing and my spelling mistakes irritating Linda and the other Anglo Saxons. Why not contact me directly and if there is anything in the reply you can post it to the Board.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-08-07 at 22:37:09 PST

sayasan
Professor Drus had more than one doctorate. She jump a couple of standards at school,like the rest of her family. She had an MA, STD (which was a teaching diploma and her hist Doctorate byabout 23. She is often cited in articles about intellectuals at the University of Cape Town in the 30's as an example. She was a member of the ANC and Communist Party which following the Suppression of Communism Act I think in 1956 never returned to South Africa. Her MA which she did in a year was on the severe crisis of the education system of the "Cape Coloured". There are living members of the family that knew her better but if you folow the trail of what she published perhaps through the British Library , you may get more of her background. Mutiple degrees is not a rarity in our family and most of the listers, including my self have at last three topped by a MBA or doctorate by in Finance not Philately or Art.But if anything they are all well read largely from long haul flight back and forth from Geneva monthly and sometimes more often and the research that goes into each listing.

Posted by sneeky37 ( 232

)

on Feb-08-07 at 22:24:53 PST

Billsey
Not sure about the numbering, maybe thats why IOMOON sold me the used cat. he he he

Posted by sneeky37 ( 232

)

on Feb-08-07 at 22:21:46 PST

Billsey
Sorry should have checked the scan first,looked up the number first, but see now its the 496/497b vert pair

Posted by billsey ( 840

) on Feb-08-07 at 22:19:24 PST

Yes Sneeky, they must have changed the numbering system after your catalog came out. I believe that 416-430 cover the engraved KGV issues from 1915, perf 14x13½. Those that are available 14x14½ are the 'a's and the dual perf pairs are the 'b's. But I can't remember for sure. The auction I pointed to has a pair, but they're both the same perf (look like 14x13½ to me)

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-08-07 at 22:18:52 PST

breffington
Frank
None of the 8 listers are experts at digital photography but if requested we do and have done send a better attempt. Part of the problem is that we blow up the picture to larger than the size and the greater the % the more distorted the pixels or whatever they are called become. We willcome advice. I bought each of the 8 listers an HP Photosmart 735 with extra memory before we started the listing. It was the top of the line at the time in Israel. Some have bought other digital cameras but ask and you will get better pictures. The lister of the lithographs really battles getting a good picture. all are is pristine condition but frequently come out with a khaki background instread of cream and all Picasso's lithograph figures are in colour. When she lightens the picture with the program that comes with the camra, the colour disappears and the figures appear in black. She makes a comment to that effect in the description. But don't expect a signature of artist in pencil. It is not in the description and no contributor to Verve ever signed his contribution in pencil. At best there will be a signature in the matrix or on the plate and included in the description. Any digital photography tips on her problem would be appreciated.She uses bright lights and a little studio.

Posted by sneeky37 ( 232

)

on Feb-08-07 at 22:17:13 PST

Billsey
They have the wrong SG number on that item according to my SG Cat. it should be 496/497b vert pair

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-08-07 at 22:10:51 PST

NOIP… jonathandean8, eBay’s answer to Anna Nicole Smith.

Jim

Posted by sneeky37 ( 232

)

on Feb-08-07 at 22:09:44 PST

Billsey
My SG is a 1985, so maybe newer cat. has something different

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-08-07 at 22:09:38 PST

NOIP… Wikipedia already has the news about Anna Nicole.

Jim

Posted by sneeky37 ( 232

)

on Feb-08-07 at 22:07:47 PST

Billsey
My SG only shows a 416, no b and nothing about pairs, does say Perf compund of 11 and 14

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-08-07 at 22:07:14 PST

greenwave4u
Ditto I suppose. The advice we got from the Ebay Listing Committee is been used, they bu the way referred us back to Safe Harbor on the tricky issue of calling uncatalogued hand stamps as "*instructional markings* not philatelic hand stamps" but with some positive comments which is highly unusual for eBay Committees. "we have no better suggestion and this suggestion did originate from the APS."Ebay's search engine gets more and more sophisticated and if we do appear in one of your searches and the reason that you can ascertain is not relevant to our description you are welcome to contact us.

The only committees in Ebay that boldly makes decisions immediately are related to increasing revenue of eBay and then you get a webwide broadcast to all Ebayers, buyers and sellers.

Posted by tbduerig ( 117

) on Feb-08-07 at 22:03:52 PST

I'm not an expert, but recently bid and won a US #143. When the stamp arrived, the 'grill' covered the entire stamp, top to bottom, side to side, very strong. I assume it is a poor fake, but note that there's something called an 'end roller grill' listed in the catalogue. Before I return the stamp as a fake, I'd just like to make sure it isn't this 'end roller grill' (that I don't know what is). Can anybody confirm positively that a full grill is a fake?

thanks.

Posted by billsey ( 840

) on Feb-08-07 at 21:56:43 PST

Someone who has the Gibbons for NZ handy, isn't the 416b supposed to be a dual perf pair?

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-08-07 at 21:56:34 PST

sayasan

She was 90 when she died. The only thing she collected as a teenager were Agnlo Boer War postcards and other material she found in Cranford, a second hand bookship, where she worked after school and stimulkated a livelong interest in the Anglo Boer War. She was a top university student winning 3 class medals in her undergraduate degree which had 3 majors. Her interest in burnt mail only arose when as a post doctoral assignment wshe was Asked by the Foreign Offices to reorganise the archives and Deeds Office of South Pacific Islands which led to other similar assignments on British (and French) administered Islands in the atlantic, Carribbean, West indies and Australia (tasmania and one of the less populated). They were not long assignments in any oneplace. She won the Alexander prize for her Research into the British Fiji Administration in the Royal Historical Society. The particular cover was not purchased in her teens but much later perhaps in the mid 40's but she wrote enclosing the cover to the post master at the time asking about the cover and stamps (this was not the time of digital photography and other than family pictures and some of the indigenous populations she came accross and yes, their wooden boats and houses, she did not think of even trying to take a picture of the cover.If you are curious in the reference David Benson listed with alink to the South Pacificthere is a picture of the type of boat they used a double hull sailboat, a miniture version of what New Zealand used to win the Americas Cup.We have a on going collection of that subject well.) She did not think twice of sending the cover and received it back with a reply. She equally wrote to the major and minor newspaperrs asking if they had reported a fire.She must have written thousands of letters like that one and kept a log book. She never failed to get a response and frequently some surprises like copies the entire New York Times for a week on either side of the date. She kept these and other major headlines and they too are a bulky part of what will eventually be offered for sale.She received thousands of approval consignments in the days of consignments and was well off to buy most of what was offered to her. As a adolescent she was a prolific writer as well. She never married and had all the time in the world. Even when she went blind she used a help add to write to her relations regularly. Times have changed haven't they.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 579

) on Feb-08-07 at 21:27:30 PST

dbenson
David
I have said it before it is actually stated in the payment terms.There are 8 listers to this account and 3 more will probably be added. 4 philatelic, 1 revenue, 2 art and anything else on paper. All 4 philatelic listers hae listed "freak" covers -the ones you have you have a problem with.When you sent 10's of thousand , you are bound to get a few that really did royal trips. Shortly we will add 3 listers , post graduate research students in Geneva but probably on the German Ebay. Their English is worse than mine. Then there is me, Jonathan Dean, who handles the "public relations" and co-ordination. I aslo pack and send the lots from Israel where I find I have some time. I commute between tGeneva the Family business headquarters and Israel. It used to be weekly but now with the aded responsibility of running the Family business, it does not work out that way always even though we have had a presence in Israel for over 3 decades. Initially with a Hedge Fund and investing in property but were early VC angels and investers and struck in lilucky time and ime again. You have to be lucky to successful in he Vc business, but we normally come in at seed or even pre seed with he stipulation that the entrepreneur continues in a R & D capacity (hands in) and we will handle the Finance and Management issues until other VC's state otherwise in latter financing roles.The 8 listers are well distributed around the world running Family business offices and equally successful VC practices. Family business comes first otherwise we will have thousands of listings. We have acheap Global contract with Fedex that enable the lister to send sold items to me and I try and ship them as quickly as possible after receipt. It is complicated but not really. The proceds of sale go into a new your bank account and from there we donate the proceeds along with the proceeds of off shore Foundations to UNICEF and an Education Fund. What we do with the proceeds of a private bank account is our business and the account is audited by KPMG and complies with US donations laws and regulations.

The above is just for the record.

Posted by sneeky37 ( 232

)

on Feb-08-07 at 19:59:53 PST

Ed Benson
Stamps for Vets arrived here safely, on their behalf-MANY THANKS

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-08-07 at 19:54:33 PST

I=O and Bilsey
I listen to the radio all the time it cut into my listening 4 times this afternoon.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-08-07 at 19:39:27 PST

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s a Kokomo Club card with the State Seal of West Virginia card 21-6.

and here’s another Kokomo Club Card with th eWest Virginia state frog from Valley Grove, W. VA card 23-1.

Jim L.

Posted by peterc8888 ( 298

) on Feb-08-07 at 19:31:24 PST

taodave

Thanks for the information. I wonder whether there is any expert on specimen overprint of official stamps in here.

PC

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-08-07 at 19:31:18 PST

Billsey

Don't worry, I think her chances of appearing on an American postage stamp are minimal to zero.

Posted by billsey ( 840

) on Feb-08-07 at 19:21:48 PST

I guess I'm not a media slave... I had to Google her to find out who Anna Nicole Smith was. I don't ever remember hearing of her before.

Posted by taodave ( 137

) on Feb-08-07 at 19:17:14 PST

peterc8888---

Some of the things things expertisers use are the length of the overprint, its position on the stamp, and the slight variation in height of the letters. All sepcimen errors are on position 21 of the plate. Some claim to be able to tell whether the underlying stamp is from plate position 21 or not by comparing it with plate proofs.

Signing off for the night,

taodave

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-08-07 at 17:55:53 PST

anna nicole

Posted by peterc8888 ( 298

) on Feb-08-07 at 17:53:13 PST

taodave

Thanks for your post. For the price I paid, I won't complain too much even if it is a fake overprint on a real O25. How to tell the specimen overprint on official stamps are fake or not?

PC

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-08-07 at 17:47:31 PST

Who is ANSmith?

K-E

CYE

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-08-07 at 17:42:00 PST

Rate Question
here is the back
12-25c-prexies

Here is the front

another1.26

any ideas Insured for some high dollar amount?

Posted by taodave ( 137

) on Feb-08-07 at 17:29:37 PST

peterc888--

I collect War Department, not Justice, but know a fair amount about the 1875 Special Printing of the Departmental stamps.

Admiral Combs, in his monograph"U.S. Departmental Specimen Stamps" wrote concerning Justice "The overprint is in blue and, perhaps due to the color of the stamp, looks quite black..."

It is all san-serif uppercase.

Fakes abound, and you should probably obtain a cert on your Sepcimen.

There is at least one legit-looking O25S currently depicted in the U.S. "Back of the Book" area of eBay. Google "O25S"

Hope this helps

taodave

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-08-07 at 17:26:25 PST

I am guessing that the Death of ANSmith has everyone speechless and to grief filled to even think about stamps :-{

Posted by mini*lindy ( 314

)

on Feb-08-07 at 17:19:27 PST

bookmark

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-08-07 at 14:35:56 PST

K-E

see my message of 14:38 yesterday.
I'll be home in about an hour

Posted by dbenson ( 7824

)

on Feb-08-07 at 13:51:27 PST

peetah, anything is collectable but would not be of much value unless the swan is upside down, or any of the rare varieties,

David B.

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-08-07 at 13:45:00 PST

Jonathandean8 Just a word of friendly advice, a lot of your items that you list for sale are in contravention of the Ebay Links Policy:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-links-faq.html

I also notice that several of your items have started to appear in my searches as a result of the verbiage in your listings, easily sorted of course by adding you to my list of excluded sellers.
cheers
Peter

Posted by peetah ( 461

) on Feb-08-07 at 13:29:52 PST

Would a used Western Australia SG Type 2 (Scott A3) 4p be collectable, (saleable) if it is cut to shape?

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-08-07 at 13:25:29 PST

billsey - Thanks. I went into Frontpage and found I should change the text to "top" and it worked. Now it looks perfect. What I now have to do, is to get my poor english changed to proper english. :O) I have tried to get some help at R.F's board but so far no one has wanted to help.

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by peterc8888 ( 298

) on Feb-08-07 at 13:10:31 PST

The word should be "Sepcimen" not "Sepicmen".

PC

Posted by peterc8888 ( 298

) on Feb-08-07 at 13:09:15 PST

Does anyone have a copy of the US official stamp O25Sa? Is the word "Sepicmen" all uppercase? Also, what color is it? I just receive one but the color seems to be black and the word is all uppercase.

Posted by dbenson ( 7824

)

on Feb-08-07 at 11:45:37 PST

Sayasan, Richard,

Professor Drus's age discrepancy was mentioned 2 years ago when the " butler " handstamps were being discussed.

Breffington,

there appears to be 8 " Johnathan Deans ", I think there is only one bad apple amongst them, the rest have been selling some very nice material especially the Cape Revenues & the Israeli bonds etc. It is the seller of the added handstamps & the Picasso Prints that appears to be the one who regularly posts here. It also appears that he is under Safe Harbors " eagle eyes " and has been warned to behave himself or it's off to Naru again. It is a shame and the other sellers should find a more reliable middle man or do it themselves as he is dragging them down with him,

David B.

Posted by bilbo ( 306

) on Feb-08-07 at 11:15:50 PST

Hi all!

I need a little more help.

I've looked around at a few different sources, and can not seem to confirm or dispute wether Victor S. McCloskey, Jr. was responsible for the artwork on the National Parks Year Issues, specifically A239, A245, and A247.

I know that he did A234, A235, A237 and A238, but I can't find any info on the National Parks Issues.

Does anybody know who did those three?

Thanks!

Posted by sayasan ( 602

)

on Feb-08-07 at 11:13:37 PST

"jonathandean". In your post of 06:20 you say

"But this was the 1930's..."

Ethel Drus was a doctoral student in 1948 when she discovered the Kimberley journal that she subsequently edited for publication in 1958. So she must have been a small child "in the 1930's" when she was supposedly writing to a New York postmaster about this remarkable cover. Look, it's simple - nobody buys your Ethel Drus story. OK?

Posted by breffington ( 348

) on Feb-08-07 at 10:09:51 PST

Re jonathandean8 listings: I would be careful about buying from this vendor. I just get bad vibes from his descriptions and murky lot scans. Only a personal opinion and I did bid on one lot but am glad I was outbid on it. Frank

Posted by billsey ( 840

) on Feb-08-07 at 09:47:46 PST

Knud-Erik, you have a couple of the cells set to align center vertically. Look for vertical alignment in the cell properties. I believe you only need to change those to 'default' instead of 'center'.

Posted by 776 ( 652

)

on Feb-08-07 at 09:30:20 PST

Good morning from beautiful Georgia

Gawg

Posted by knuden ( 2202

)

on Feb-08-07 at 07:44:58 PST

Thank you for the kind comments to my Danish Postal wrapper web exhibit. :O)

jaywild - The answer to your question is simple - anywhere! :O) I'm constantly searching for wrappers at the net, at auction houses and through the contacts I have worldwide but it's rarely I find anything I can use now. :O(

rclwa - Thanks. I have used good old Frontpage but the only thing I can't figure out, is to allign the text. As it is now, some of the text beneath a row of 4 boxes, is slightly higher than the other and it irritates me, as I like to have a page like this to be perfect. Does anyone know how to solve this problem?

It looks like other could have had some fun seeing my exhibit but it drowned in the endless tirade of you know who.

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3373

)

on Feb-08-07 at 06:45:20 PST

AZ Matt See what you can find from Montague County if you get bored. After buying the Forestburg cover from you I did a Montague search on eBay which I had not done in a while and ended up with 3 booklets from local communities. Including one about Forestburg, opening date of post office, list of postmasters until 1957, and even establishment of 2 rural routes and who the carriers were. Thanks for getting me off my butt (and you didn't even know what you did).

Mindi-Lindy I concurr.

Mornin' IO

Jeff

Posted by iomoon ( 1042

)

on Feb-08-07 at 06:37:09 PST

Good day all.

From a cool west Texas.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-08-07 at 06:29:41 PST

dbenson
David
I have no idea when it will be listed. The lister is in transit and it is in his office.But as soon as it is listed.I will put the lot number on the notice board.While I have targeted David , I have made purchases from other occasional ebayers who have logged on to the board.No offence if you are dealers or sellers open to every one.Just bear in mind that Professor Drus was an inquisitive academic , not a philatelist and wrote hundreds of letters which she did not keep, a pity, but each item in her collection of nurnt mail is documented with a note and a paper clip or had a paperclip until we noticed from humidity it was sometimes rusting and leaving a stain. They now in plastic sleeves.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-08-07 at 06:20:42 PST

dbenson
Never met Edward "Ted" E. Proud but we have most of his catalogues.He was very active in 2006 I believe producing 4 definitive works. While it is deficult to find a more knowledgable philatelist most of his catalogues end 3 to 4 decades from the present times I was expecting a lot more from Jim Kotanchil , "Post Office Seals of the US and Possessions".He has added a couple of zeros on to Scotts listing of US Post Office Seals but goes no further than Scott. There still are US States that have their own seal tape.Jim Drummond magnificent quartly newsletter no 9 covered the USPS Official Postal Seals and hopefully he will complete is Postal Seals of the World by the end of the year. He has been advertising it for the betterpart of 2 years but holds a 9 to 5pm job and has written some other books encourage philately for kids. His Newsletter too is quite unique and must be quite time consuming.Whether he will cover the last 4 decades is an unknown. If he does and has illustrations then a lot of the auxiliary hand stamps such as on the Dominica cover will appear hopefully. This is one collection. The collection ofthe late Professor Ethel Drus was meticulously researched.I am going to permit this cover to be listed.It has a Railway hand stamp, tt has a surcharged with a NY surcharge, two circles , one wth a T , the other 25 Centimes MY with a 2 in the center, a 5c Postage Duehas been added and a canncelled by a NY 20 1920 Oval Bar,it is addressed to Agentinia and has two Mendosa Date stamps and a Buenos Aries one,the issue is that it has on both the front a small Damaged by Fire black hand stamp and a pasted on letter of apology from Posdt Master Sorting Station New York, appologizing for a small burn mark in the left hand bottom corner that he states was started by a lit cigarette. Professor Drus naturally wrote to the Post master some years later, when she obtained the cover and confirmed the existence of the "hand stamp" and that smoking was still permitted. He also confirmed the existence of "every eventuallity hand stamps" including a variety of Danaged by Water (two lines)in two different sizes (both black) and one small Damaged by Sea Water and two that he admitted copying off an Anglo Boer War card she sent him (the days of consignments and amazing trust) that has been printed and used in the Netherlands and redirected to Cape town that has two different Damaged by Water one line hand stamps. She sent him both the cover and the problematic Anglo Boer War postcard. She collect the partiotic Anglo Boer War postcards as a hobby, before the neologism entered the lexicon of English language and left a substantial collection to us when she died of these postcards. Both Used and Unused. If she had been a philatelist , she would have written a book on burnt mail and auxiliary hand stamps. The fire and checked did not make the NY newspapers. Most people would have missed it just looking at the cover. The hand stamp is perhaps 15mmlong and 4mm high It when you turn the cover over that you cannot help seeing the message of the Post Master and ironically you would expect changes to be made of an incident like this. But this was the 1930's and reoccurred in the same post office even on a Zepplin cover addressed to NY that she had no idea was valueable since there were catalogues on Zeppelin mail in the 40's 50's such as Sieger, Frost , Michel, Curley and others. Although was offered and bought for 10 pound 8 shillings a cover certified as one of the 400 odd covers that suvived the Hinderburg crash. Look at it and if you have an issue i will delist it immediately. The hand stamp appears nowear in 15 to 20 books on disaster mail or NY postmarks and hand stamps. But the point raised repeatedly by the 30to 40 international dealers was that "hand stamps" were been discovered daily and not to shy away from calling it and "instructional marking". If you were to count all the "problematic hand stamp" that we have called " instructional markings' since we keep a print out of every listingit comes to 603 and just listing Official Seal covers like Dominica would bring the number up to well over 1500. A little bit of reality is called for.Even the self inking stamps are about $15 plus each and some of the big ones $25 or more.In the case of a rare NY Railroad hand stamp surcharge and cancelled postage due stamp with a clear NY date stamp and Agentininian date stamps (3)it seems illogical to add anything.But look at it. You call it to remain listed or remove it. If it already has a bid, I will write an apolgetic excuse to the buyer.

Posted by keleofa ( 3364

)

on Feb-08-07 at 05:59:27 PST

APS AmeriStamp Expo 2007...

APS AmeriStamp Expo 2007
Riverside, California

Anyone going this weekend?

I am planning to be there Friday 10-2 or so and again Saturday 10-2. I see that Paperhistory has an exhibit. Any other exhibits that I should check out?

Free Admission and Parking!

Where: Riverside Convention Center, 3443 Orange Street Riverside,
California

Dates: February 9-11, 2007
Hours: Friday and Saturday 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Sunday 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.

Show Highlights:
*85 dealers from 24 states and abroad including booths where all stamps
sell
for 10 cents or less and covers for one dollar or less
- For a listing and specialties visit
www.stamps.org/AmeriStamp/Dealers.htm
*Harmer-Schau Auction
- 5 sessions and over 3,400 lots - U.S. Singles and Collections,
British,
Foreign and Worldwide - to view the catalog http://www.harmerschau.com/
*More than 50 meetings and seminars including:
- How to buy and sell on e-Bay
- Candidates Forum for the 2007 APS election
- Estate Planning
-Adult Beginner Program (registration required)
*For a full meeting and seminar schedule go to
www.stamps.org/AmeriStamp/Schedule.htm
* More than 4,000 Exhibit pages, see listing at
www.stamps.org/AmeriStamp/Exhibits.htm
- Single-Frame and Most Popular Champion of Champions exhibits
- On display the Inverted Jenny and Dag Hammerskjold error discovery
sheet
*Special cancels and souvenir cachet
*USPS booth with sales on new issue stamps and gift items available

Matt in Arizona

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-08-07 at 05:11:17 PST

mini*lindy
Try Chairing a 20 person conference with 8 to 10 people logged in from all over the world and taking "must" phone calls and equally writing hopefully informative messages.Even if I read the message 20 times , I have so much going on around me and centered on me that I should not be logged into this chat board.Teriade employed MOURLOT and DRAEGER FRERES. If I got my grammar and whatnot in English wrong My apologies. I don't rate English even as my 3 rd or 4th or even 5th language.If you look at thepage after the index of Verve you will see their names> MOURLOT specialized in lithographs, his brother in everythingelse that required photography, be it photography (which Verve was the first to carry), high quality colour prints, and heliogravures which were in most cases charcoal drawings that never made it to lithographs.Art Critics for example refer to the Dessin de la Bible series as only the lithographs with a different Chagall graphic on the Verso, but in the same issue are 92 Chagall Heliogravures with unique French explainations of each by Chagall that always regarded as part of the Dessin De la Bible series.It was perhaps one of 3 occasions that Chagall bothered to explain his art. The other two were the Stained Glass Windows at Givat Ram Campus Library Jerusalem University and the magnificent Mural he did on the entrance hall walls of the Knesset.

dbenson
David-you and Safe Harbor have open invitations to either delist a lot in the case of Safe Harbor or recommend we delist a lot in your case since you have I see so much experience. The 8 listers have very direct instructions.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-08-07 at 05:03:23 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s a Mailer’s Postmark Permit from West Middleton, Indiana that the Kokomo Stamp club used early on card 2-1.

and here’s another from Walton, Indiana card 2-3.

Jim L.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 314

)

on Feb-08-07 at 04:29:13 PST

Oh good heavens, can we stop feeding the troll....he promised he'd not post ANOTHER message here,,, and he does on and on and on trying to make SOMEONE believe he sells legit items.. good grief!!!!

but as the word Freres is BROTHERS in french, surely the Draeger Freres ie the Brothers Draeger, are no relation whatsoever to the Mourlot Freres the Brothers Mourlot who have a completely different surname... sheeeeeeesk! even someone with schoolgirl french can work that out.

now... here's a nice little postcard to look at.. again!!

postcard shows a view of the Entrance to Camp Wimbledon Common (in winter) - not near the tennis courts :o)

Linda

Posted by dbenson ( 7823

)

on Feb-08-07 at 03:17:04 PST

Johnathan, sorry, not a dealer, just a collector & exhibitor who is disposing of material that accumulated whilst I was Exchange Superintendent of the PSNSW. I am mor interested in stamps than Postal History although I was also convenor of a Postal History Auction for many years and described 10,000's of covers during that period including many with instructional handstamps and I think I can easily recognise covers with added markings.

David B.

Posted by dbenson ( 7823

)

on Feb-08-07 at 03:13:19 PST

John, I suggest you ask Ted Proud to verify any of the markings that aren't in his books. He has kept meticulous records of markings from most of the Commonwealth countrie and has collaborated with specialists to make sure his books encompasses all the known markings.

This could go on for ever, however as you have promised to be a good boy to Safeharbor it is no use continuing unless of course some dubious markings happen to appear on items you are selling then I know who to contact at Ebay,

David B.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-08-07 at 02:37:21 PST

dragonstamps

David Benson has been in a stamp dealer, I think specializing in stamps , more than postal history , if his current listing is anything to go by. You couldn't get a better free opinion.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-08-07 at 02:33:12 PST

dbenson

Far be it to correct you by Edward E. Proud has spent a lifetime writing catalogue or actually books that yes list the then known hand stamps but differ substantially from say the newsletters of the Auxiliary Stamp Society of the US that really are nothing but complete listings. Per their estimate their could be by extrapolation between 400,000 and 600,000 auxilary hand stamps currently in use or used in the last century (the US has 40,000 post offices that make auxiliary habd stamps as they need them , down from a high of 80,000) that have not been listed and quite obviously millions and milions and millions world wide.While Linn's magazine I find far to frivilous to be considered a "reputable stamp Publication", it simply has to many frivilous columns, it is equally questionable whether the listings of the Auxiliary Markings (I think they call themselves-we are founding members)Society can be regarded as a "reference catalogue". What it does point to is a tremendous amount of copying of US hand stamps which have been copied by yes, Australia,New Zealand and other countries(the finger pointing RTS hand stamp is openly acknowledged to becopied from US examples of which there are thousands).

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-08-07 at 02:20:08 PST

dbenson

I am trying to keep my messages short. William Cole is the "expert' who wrote an article and sold ecopies for $15 basically putting everybody off buying art and eBay delisted his single lot.I see the bottom line was he was offering consulting services. I see I was generous in calling him a Professor of Art. At the same time as the French Version of Verve that startein 1936 and continued into the earlt 1960's and was very experimental for the 1st two decades using different paper and art forms with the Freres Brothers the Teriade principle printers. Mourlot concentrated on lithographs and his brother Draeger on Heliogravures, prints that were amazing in quality for the time (he worked with most large Camera and Photography Companies to improve colour photography far beyond Time, Newsweek and Life magazine). Every contemporary artist from the 30 to the 60's contributed to the limited editions of Verve.They were mainly double editions. Had chaotic indexes and many a lithograph and print was not in the index.They were sown by hand and often so thick that the sticking is up to 5mm off center which sometimes spoiled a lithograph with pin holes but the artist of the time soon learnt to leave 5 to 15 mm on the inside margin of their art so that the pin holes could be trimmed without impacking the lithograph. We have a Chagall lithograph listed that was not in the index.Frequently when he should he had an empty page and artist was working in his studio he asked him to do a quick charcoal drawing.

The bottom line is that at the same time of as Verve existed at least in the two first decades there were two other experimental "inhouse" publications that also produced lithographs from contemporary artists of the time XXe Siecle and Derrierre le Moir (accent on the "e")again they were basically in house publications with limited subcriptions only and produced by Teriades printing competitors in France. In terms of quality Mourlot was the foremost master although Chagall's Tales from the Arabian Night prited in the USA, in terms of colour is still considered his finest series.

Posted by dbenson ( 7823

)

on Feb-08-07 at 02:08:13 PST

Johnathan, you seem to have a fixation on the word " uncatalogued ". I will repeat, there is no catalogue of handstamps, there are listings & there are many articles.

You made a good example of the Dominica as it is perfectly legit and all the handstamps were applied in the course of the transmission of the item and weren't added. Of course all covers addressed to fictitious addressees have to be handled by the various Post offices in their own way and either returned to sender or destroyed. The covers you sent were luckily returned to you with various markings of which none are particularly rare but your descriptions seems to imply that the markings are of extreme rarity,

David B.

Posted by dragonstamps ( 446

) on Feb-08-07 at 02:08:00 PST

I'll add that if it were not for the fear of buying fakes, I would have spent many times the amounts on single items in stamps.
The fear of getting duped by someone who is selling the stuff as fast as he can manufacture it... scares me and I'm pretty sure it stops others as well.

I think the first postage stamp was released in 1840, and the first fakes were printed in 1839....
I wouldn't doubt it.

Keep it real.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-08-07 at 01:51:19 PST

dbenson

I am afraid I have a busy schedule today and don't particularly like criticism without recommendations. I appreciate that you will be looking at our listing.A fraction of yours. If anything is borderline in terms of questionable hand stamps please raise it and if there are no bidders then we will delist it. You did see the Dominica Cover with 6 uncatalogued Dominica hand stamps and the Israeli surcharge now covered by a detailed article we have written on the available major references for Israel and have located a number of COAs from medalion dealers who also dabbled and still do in tourist philately FDC's mainly. I think there are 11 dealers in Israel and non-have any good stocks of postal history.Like the Kruger Rand, Israel produces medalions for every occasion and the price is based on the gold, silver and copper prices with a premium for the occasion. It is another area of interest we have collections of.William M. Rosenblum produces a good auction catalogue but like all the Judaica and Philatelic catalogues with inflated starting prices. He does not always say so but if he received a bid sheet with lower than estimate prices ,well in advance, of the auction closing date ,you get a letter to that effect.The others state so openly. Our collection of Ancient Holyland coinage was donated to Haaretz Museum in Ramat aviv, Tel Aviv which has a Philatelic Pavillion (if you are ecer in Israel and like at the UK Mational Postal Museums the same pull out collections donated to it). The Money from all over the world has long reached saturation so part went to the Biblical Museum, in Jerusalem.

But back to your comment. We will only be pleased if we got feedback that a cover is a problem and to delist it. We have made the same offer to Safe Harbor. But I should not really complain with a sizable junk of ebay shares in our Hedge Funds, "Eebay sometimes puts profit before principles and some of their principles and regulations are very,very vague"

Posted by sayasan ( 601

)

on Feb-08-07 at 01:18:01 PST

"Jonathan". Agreed. No one should expect to find a signature (unless signed in the plate) on an original print taken out of a magazine or book. No more with Verve than with the lithographs by Craxton, Colquhoun etc in books published by John Lehmann, for example, which often turn up on eBay. Maybe you need to make that clear - more concisely - in your description? As for fake art on eBay, most of it is obvious, like the examples I posted.

But this is a separate issue, and does not affect the general disgust felt by posters here about the suspicious and "uncatalogued" handstamps that have appeared on covers in your listings. There's really no more to be said about that.

Posted by dbenson ( 7823

)

on Feb-07-07 at 23:05:39 PST

jonathan, of course they are uncatalogued, there is no catalogue for them but there is plenbty of literature on the subject and the literature of course doesn't mention the " butler's " marks as you state they are not postal markings but internal household markings.

Did you see the irony in the negative feedback that you got " avoid like the plague ", most appropriate, I hope that potential buyers see it and give your material a miss.

I congratulate you on your promise to Safeharbor that you will only be listing recognised handstamps and I am sure that there will be many (including me) who will perusing your material on a regular basis to make sure that you keep your promise to Safe Harbor.

David B.

David B.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-07-07 at 22:57:52 PST

dbenson
No I have not forgotton the problem we have with "uncatalogued" hand stamps and have confronted the problem head on with on with going communication with Safe Harbor. The issue is minor in relation to the volume of "catalogued hand stamps" we have in our collection and those will, until eBay reaffirm their policy recommended by the APS, be the only covers we will list. But philately is just a small part of a very,very diverse and large collection of just about anything on paper and to do with paper we own. Unfortunately we are in for another slog. 1 out of 4 emails from Safe Harbor on the issue that we respond to ends up getting a standard totally irrelevant response sometimes sent for "spoofs" emails. I received one yesterday that eBay will no longer respond to "spoof@eBay.com" but now you have to go through a linked page and with character limitations often less than the length of the spoof. Paypal "spoof@paypal" is still okay but do they do anything with these spoofs. Some are very enticing.

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)

on Feb-07-07 at 22:35:26 PST

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Posted by dbenson ( 7823

)

on Feb-07-07 at 22:23:51 PST

jonathan, hae you forgotten about the " butlers handstamps ",

David B.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-07-07 at 22:02:33 PST

sayasan
Sorry "email" not "eBay". If any one else wants it, you are welcome to it.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-07-07 at 21:56:00 PST

dbenson
Our listing has never ever listed a Disinfection Cover even though we have both contemporary material and material going back centuries. They will be listed in a well known Swiss auction in due course.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-07-07 at 21:49:34 PST

sayasan

There is a Professor of Art who has compliled a list of ebayers that sell fakes and a comprehensive introduction to lithographs. He was selling his 15 page article for $15 for an ecopy at one stage until eBay delisted his lot.If I had your ebay I could send it to you or any one else. He does spend the first page on copyright but it is such an open subject.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-07-07 at 21:44:32 PST

sayasan
As for the price. We are frequently asked why such a low starting price and one buyer who has bought quite a few said thatall she had to do was fram it , show the COA and easily got $2000 plus in Manhattan auctions and galleries.A similiar email was received from a Boston dealer.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 575

) on Feb-07-07 at 21:40:07 PST

sayasan
Nice of you say something positive. This buyer sent me two emails with the heading "No Signature No Sale". What she wanted was a pencil signature on a lithograph originating from one of hundreds of loose copies of the French Verve Magazine. As a reference we have three complete sets bound. No contributor to this magazine, which was very experimental mixing paper and art forms, and I don't think the artists were paid by were doing Teriade (the owner of the printing press) a favour and at the same time he let them experiment with other lithograph and printing processes such as carborundum process that Joan Miro used a lot of (it is ideal for Clave combinations, accent on the "e" and equally by Mattise, ideal for "Patterns") all mastered the process and there are no tell tale ridges on the back of any lithograph original from a dismembered lithograph from Verve. No artist ever signed his name in pencil on any of his contributions to Verve.PERIOD. I think the buyer was a bit naive and did not understand what "in the matrix of the lithograph" meant or as it is sometime called "on or in the plate" meant. If the artist signed his name in the matrix it was printed as part of the lithograph. A couple of months back a seller offered a Braque Verve liyhographs on Ebay signed in pencil. When I pointed out the above (all those listed by us have COAs), she lamely said it was "autographed" and made my day, week and month with her reply.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-07-07 at 19:47:18 PST

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s a Winona Lake, Indiana PSS 608 on cover click here.

Jim L.

Posted by justheretolearn ( 22

) on Feb-07-07 at 16:42:24 PST

Thanks for all your responses, and particularly to billsey, who best understood what I'm trying to do. There is no incentive to save the envelopes and reuse them as I wrote down a description, Scott no., etc., on them.

Posted by billsey ( 840

) on Feb-07-07 at 16:31:39 PST

justheretolearn, I think most answers so far have slightly missed the mark for what you need. To use your stamps for postage (which is what will give you the best return on your original investment) you will want to place them, a few envelops at a time, in lukewarm water. When enough of the gum has dissolved to allow the stamps to float free from the envelope paper, remove the stamps and place them face down on some paper towels. Leave them there long enough for the bulk of the moisture to dry off, but not so long that they curl up. Move them to normal paper (books like Bob suggests below work great, so does blank printer paper) in layers of paper // stamps // paper // stamps etc. When enough have been soaked, dried and then place between paper layers, put a heavy weight on the stack of paper and leave things alone for a few days. What you will get in the end will be nicely dry and flat stamps without any adhesive. Use a glue stick on them to place them on an envelope for mailing, they'll take a little longer than normal to fully adhere, but they'll work just fine.

You might think ahead of time and soak them in combinations that match the current postage rate (a bunch of 22¢ and 17¢ together, for instance) so you can get by without buying too many new stamps to match up with your old ones. Save the 3¢ stamps for the next rate increase, when they'll bring a 39¢ up to 42¢.

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-07-07 at 15:12:30 PST

justheretolearn -- I hadn't read your last when I posted mine. You may be surprised that envelopes that ''sealed themselves'' may not be the 95% you think, but often just one or two spots that can be worked with a good letter opener or knife. At least that was the case in a big box of envelopes I got free. Another technique that may even preserve most of the gum is to place a damp bit of tissue paper opposite the stamps, and let moisture soak through, freeing the stamp from the back while the front remains dry. I've done this and let the stamp dry out, and it seemed to still have full gum! If they were never licked this can work very well! Admittedly a lot of fuss, though.

Bob in WA

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-07-07 at 15:11:32 PST

justheretolearn
Your stamps may involve more labor than the postage they will produce.
I've an old photograph dryer that I use after soaking stamps. It speeds up the drying process and presses the stamps so they don't curl.
You can also blot the water off the stamps and them place them inside books to press them. I've had the best luck with slick surface books. I generally pick up a few when I need them from a Salvation Army/Goodwill/Thrift store or library sale. I've friends who basically did the same thing with old newspapers and paper towels. The towels covered the face of the stamps to prevent the transfer of ink from the newspapers.
Using books to press the stamps may take several days.

Hope that this info helps.

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-07-07 at 15:05:40 PST

3900 covers -- Let's see, £22k is about $11 per cover. Nice for penny blacks and 18th century, yes, but I wonder, if there are hundreds upon hundreds of the type that languish on eBay for want of a $4.99 opener, how it will all sort out for the winner. At any rate, it surely would be fun to go through it all! I wish him luck.

Knud-Eric -- I really like the way you have it set up. For me, the sizing you have chosen is perfect, allowing the viewer to see a lot at once, without thumbnails being so small as to be meaningless, but with readable text without zooming, and a nice detailed large image for the closer look. Very enjoyable, and of course the material is awesome. Thanks for sharing it. I'd like to know what software tools you used.

justheretolearn -- Tape, NO! Glue stick or old selvege works great. I keep a lot around--there were big expanses from the Celebrate the Century sheets that I still have--and use it for both stamps (especially those late dry gum things) and envelope flaps that lost too much. Got the technique down pretty good for sliding a narrow moistened piece under the edge of a stamp or flap, and sliding it out while maintaining just the right pressure to transfer glue without it sticking.

Bob in WA

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-07-07 at 14:54:19 PST

Justhere
A glue stick works real well, and easier than elmers liquid. I soaked a big batch of the same era you saved
I got them because the were stuck down for 10% of face.
I have also used a few with the extra layer of paper
but a couple were returned If you take and have the item Hand canceled it seems never a problem.

Posted by justheretolearn ( 22

) on Feb-07-07 at 14:42:48 PST

rclwa and iomoon: Thanks for responding. I should be more explicit. These stamps were never sent through the mail and missed cancelling. I placed them -inside- the envelope for temporary storage. They stayed there, and because of humidity or whatever, they are now stuck to the inside of the envelope. The flap on 95% of the envelopes sealed as well, so the only way to see the stamps is to tear open the envelope. One plate block per envelope.

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-07-07 at 14:40:58 PST

Knud-Erik… Incredible—fantastic—amazing amount of work and beautiful presentation of your wrapper exhibit. Truly a first class production. How in the world did you find all those one of a kind items? My hat’s off to you…

Jim

Posted by cmarsha ( 901

) on Feb-07-07 at 14:39:25 PST

dbenson, and others replying, many thanks.
The dbenson posting was as good as I could have asked for- not to slight the others! What it boils down to is whether you are willing to pay what a dealer is asking or not and badly you need it. I don't know if Gibbons prices Russian material higher than Scott but I have the feeling that the approval manager at this firm is about to get back an intact lot from me- and perhaps others if he tries the same thing with customers in various areas. It's an old story- someone takes over a job and wants to make more money for his employer than the last guy- what I think some people in the stamp trade don't understand is that you can make as much if not more in the long run with rapid turnpover of several items at a reasonable price rather than a few at a higher one.
Anyway, if there's something in this lot I think I cannot live without I will buy at 80%- otherwise its all going back. By the way I emailed the dealer on this 48 hours ago-no reply received. Thanks all for your input!

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-07-07 at 14:38:51 PST

K-E

Can you email me.
I have an email to send which is larger than eBays limit with "contact member".
My address is on my me page

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-07-07 at 14:29:49 PST

K.E.
Great Display as usual
we really liked the bisected stamp use
My little one collects Triangles on cover and
and now understands that while not made as a triangle there are some out there that would make Her collection
rules.

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-07-07 at 14:14:13 PST

justheretolearn -- Technically, if the old envelope went through the mail but missed a cancel, that is called a ''skip'' and it is illegal to reuse the stamp. Practically, unless it received some spray-on tagging in transit (which I think is possible) there is no way to distinguish that from a stamp you accidentally pasted to an envelope you don't wish to use for some reason. If it's a recently applied self stick, you can remove it by S-L-O-W-L-Y peeling it from the envelope, I mean like 2 or 3 minutes to get across the stamp, and then re-affix it. However this works best when it had been affixed to the wrong envelope very recently. (Simplest of all is to just save the envelope for a different use.) Hard to say what various clerks might or might not think about an extra layer of paper there. If it isn't too thick probably nobody would notice.

Bob in WA

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-07-07 at 14:10:31 PST

W is for Watchful Welsh wooley wildlife in Winter in Wales.

Posted by sayasan ( 601

)

on Feb-07-07 at 14:00:46 PST

That's better ...

Posted by knuden ( 2200

)

on Feb-07-07 at 13:59:55 PST

W is for wrapper

At last I have made a web exhibit with the different types of wrappers, including proof and errors, texted in english. It's about half of what are in the exhibit and there is lots of rare items in it.

Take a look and be so kind to give me some feed-back.

Danish Postal wrapper exhibit.

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by sayasan ( 601

)

on Feb-07-07 at 13:57:48 PST

Sorry. I hate it when this sort of thing happens. Can't get my head round Front Page sometimes. Been a long, long day. Try again ...

David B. I think I must be losing the ability to explain myself clearly. In fact, I was defending JD's sale of lithographs from Verve, if that's indeed what they are, given that these prints, even though they appeared in a magazine, were directly from the plate drawn by the artist. (Jonno went ballistic over my comments presumably because he hadn't read them properly. Or maybe he thought I was being darkly ironic?) So I'm not quite sure why JD's buyer is complaining, unless he's come to the conclusion that these are NOT from Verve, but are some sort of reproduction, like so many Picasso "prints" offered on eBay. Though I must say that £50 is a bit steep for a starter price.

At least he hasn't starting drawing his own, like so many eBay hopefuls with private feedback and private bidder identities. At one point, for my own amusement, I started compiling a Gallery of Crap Picasso Fakes Offered on eBay, but there were so many that I soon gave up. But they still make me smile. I especially like the one fourth from the top on the left, where the "forger" has taken a perfectly good traditional life drawing by some anonymous artist, rubbed out the face and substituted a Picassoesque distortion. Anyway, a change from philately for the art lovers amongst you.

Hope that's better ...

Richard W.

Posted by justheretolearn ( 22

) on Feb-07-07 at 13:49:35 PST

Is it permissible to glue a piece of paper with attached stamp onto an envelope to be mailed? So top to bottom it looks like

stamp
_________
old envelope
_________
new envelope to be mailed

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-07-07 at 13:43:47 PST

justheretolearn

If you steam them off with the hot emission of gaseous H₂O from a kettle they will retain their glue and you can stick them directly onto envelope if you do it every time you need to mail something.

Tape will not fly.

Posted by justheretolearn ( 22

) on Feb-07-07 at 13:38:35 PST

OK, but how do I get the stamps off the envelope paper? Or should I attach it as is? Is tape permissible, or should I just use glue?

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-07-07 at 13:24:13 PST

justheretolearn

Use them for postage.
If you have any old stamp sheet of pre-self-stick days, use the selvedge to provide the glue.
If not, Elmers glue works just as well.

Posted by justheretolearn ( 22

) on Feb-07-07 at 13:17:25 PST

I collected stamps as a kid but never got serious. I want to unload. I have a lot of plate blocks I purchased from the post office. I idiotically stored them in plain letter envelopes, thinking I'd get them in albums or in better storage. Never did. So over years of storage the envelopes rippled, and the stamps, although still mint, follow the contours of the seams of the envelope because they are stuck to the inside. Are these worth selling? Most of these are 22-centers from the 80s, but some go back to the 1950s. If not worth selling, I'd like to use them for everyday postage. If I go that route, how can I prepare them for first-time use? I remember that when I soaked stamps, they curled, and of course you lose the gum.

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-07-07 at 13:14:44 PST

In the meanwhile,

W is for Wind in the Willows

W is for Winnie the Pooh.

Alice's adventures in Wonderland

Posted by sayasan ( 601

)

on Feb-07-07 at 13:06:19 PST

Io - you're right. I uploaded things in the wrong order. Back in a mo ...

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-07-07 at 13:02:21 PST

Richard

It would seem the images are on your hard drive, rather than your web site.

Posted by sayasan ( 601

)

on Feb-07-07 at 12:56:02 PST

Richard W.

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-07-07 at 12:38:22 PST

David B Yes a hoard is probably a better description. I find it impossible to believe though anyone would be bidding so high without first actually going to view the lot in person. Oh well time will tell as I guess a few here now have that lot on their watch list also.

Posted by dbenson ( 7823

)

on Feb-07-07 at 12:31:46 PST

Alec,

it is a very strange hoard, hoards that are found in antique trunks usually are addressed to the one household, business or area. That " hoard " is addressed worldwide, I doubt it is a hoard but the remainders of an old time postal history collector who has taken out the better items. There is still a lot of value there but imposssible to value without close inspection. If it was sold at a major auction in London thje buyers would have been one of the major British Postal History dealers and they would not have been very generous in their estimations as they would realise the work involved in selling it and that the value is not in 3900 covers but in about 100 at the most and that is what they would have been valuing, the other 3800 covers they would have recycled in other auctions 100 at a time,

David B.

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-07-07 at 12:27:24 PST

Linda If a 1-10 showing is what others agree to also then I'm happy to go along with that.A decision needs to be made soon though to allow others to scan and prepare in good time.
The boards success is determined by what we can all put back into the hobby. By having some fun and encouraging others to show material it is at least a start.
Besides the Philatelic postings mean I don't have to search my vast repatoire (spelling?) of jokes to post. :-)

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-07-07 at 12:20:01 PST

Bjorn It still has 3 days to run. It'll be interesting to see how high it does go for in the end. Though I agree it would have been better suited to one of the UK major auction houses. Personally though I don't like the so called hidden bidder identity.

We have snow forecast for the SE of England tomorrow. Anything more than 1 cm and our travel system collapses. Can't say I'm looking forward to the car journey tomorrow :-(

Posted by mini*lindy ( 314

)

on Feb-07-07 at 12:19:04 PST

alec I still think a 10 week break with numbers 1-10 would be a nice change before we start A-Z over again.

Hello Shirley, nice to meet you.

Knud yes, an O with a diagonal slash on my screen too!

Linda

Posted by bjornmu ( 873

) on Feb-07-07 at 12:07:41 PST

Well, it's -14C here (+7F). At the office, we have an engineer from Bangalore visiting who had never seen snow before. :-)

Bill D, the animal you North Americans call elk does not exist in Europe. The animal originally called elk in English is what you call moose. That exists in Europe, but not in France.

Alec, wow, that's a huge lot! Methinks eBay is not the right place to sell this. The winner may have got it cheap...

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-07-07 at 11:57:53 PST

Own up! Who is the one who outbid me ?

I have no conection to the seller but that sort of lot is the thing you dream of discovering when some company tells you to go clear their trash :-)

We seem to be keeping the W's coming in slowly but surely. It is good to see some new guys taking part also. Is anyone keeping track on what we do after Z ? My vote goes to having another ABC but this time based on a theme only. e.g. A = Airmail, B = Butterflies, C= Cricket , oops is that a swear word ? *LOL*. It doesn't have to be based on my examples just that the showing is in keeping with the relevant weekly letter. If adopted then no country showing this time. Themed showings only. But of course it could be a double A if someone showed Airmails that happened to be Australian. You get the idea I think. So voice your opinions. If no majority can agree on what we adopt next then I would suggest that the casting vote goes to EUSC President, Bjorn.

Posted by dbenson ( 7823

)

on Feb-07-07 at 11:57:09 PST

Sayasan, Richard,

your comment about Jonathan's Picasso prints was timely, he just received this feedback from one of his buyers,

NEGATIVE, " Terrible Seller try to Bully You into Buying FAKES, Avoid like the Plague "

There is an irony in the comment as last time Jonno listed material before he was booted was listing fake disinfection markings purporting to safeguard against plagues,

Sheryll, thanks for the details however Ebay can find no connection between them (or doesn't want to),

David B.

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-07-07 at 11:31:09 PST

Conversely, in my class this morning nobody knew what an Ibex was.

It was part of the diet of "the man in the ice" - Otzi.

Posted by wrd3 ( 99

) on Feb-07-07 at 11:18:53 PST

I attended a business meeting in December with 4 participants from France. The restaurant mostly offered game. None of the 4 French attendees knew what an elk was (it was on the menu). So, for those who don't know, here is page with pictures of elk, a large member of the deer family.

Bill D.

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-07-07 at 11:18:22 PST

Yesterday we beat the record high for the day, today we shattered it.

With apologies to all in the north midcontinent USA (and Norway).

Posted by chipg ( 208

) on Feb-07-07 at 11:02:25 PST

Sign seen in a Taos, NM supermarket next to a refridgerated cooler containing....

"Elk - The Other Red Meat"

(for those outside the US, it is a play on this slogan)

Posted by billsey ( 840

) on Feb-07-07 at 10:52:37 PST

I just watched a herd of elk walk through my back yard. There were five bucks and ten or fifteen does. :-)

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-07-07 at 10:32:18 PST

Nomad
Would your buddy need a copy of this
Black-edged

Posted by shirleyfay123 ( 0 )

on Feb-07-07 at 10:29:27 PST

OOPS!!!!! Sorry aboyt my ignorance on the etiquette of chatting. Won't happen again.
Shirley Fay

Posted by soggy333 ( 54

) on Feb-07-07 at 10:28:52 PST

cmarsha
Your question about typical percentages of Scott(or other catalogs) prices to be paid is the oldest and most unanswerable question in Philately. It only has layers meanings that a lifetime of experience can give you. We could post here for months on this topic. Many will try to answer this in a million ways, and they will have to resort to anecdotes and parables to illustrate their meaning. I collect the world up to 1940 including revenues and local posts. ANY stamp that I need is worth a lot more than a quarter. I am happy to pay a quarter for ANY stamp I need. Never happens of course.Scott catalog might be 20 cents,but is irrelevant. You did not mention whether the Russian stamps you buy on approval are the 20 cent or 20 dollar items. If a dealer charged you 100% of 20 cents he might be losing money on you. Any discussion of Scott's pricing methods falls apart when you are talking cheapies under $5. No one is checking auction realizations for junk. Because of this laxity and poor service by catalog publishers there are a huge number of pricing errors in Scott. There are hundreds of stamps that are MUCH rarer than a Scott price of $5 would imply. If you found one of these stamps at $20 you would be lucky.The opposite is true as well. I have had stockbooks full of stamps that may catalog $3 or more each. Cannot sell them for a dime sometimes.Who has not seen ads offering $1000 catalog for only $12.95. Loaded with "bombs". I found a packet once that had 10 sheets of a long Romanian set, CTO and cataloging $56 per set. 40 sets,over $2000 Scott. I sold it for $10.At the other extreme I have gone into street level stamp shops in Germany. At every store the prices were about the SAME00full Michel. What a laugh.unless of course that is all you are used to. To take their point of view however, one must admit that 1. They have the set in stock when you get there and 2. It is in PERFECT condition unlike the trash that Americans will put into their albums.

Posted by shirleyfay123 ( 0 )

on Feb-07-07 at 09:50:10 PST

Gawg: I'll be a window if it will help you sell that #1!!!!
I think I am registered here as Tycomom but I have forgotten all the info so had to reregister. This ID works just as well.

Shirley Fay

Posted by chipg ( 208

) on Feb-07-07 at 09:41:01 PST

Got it. Sunday judging announcement.
Thanks
Chip

Posted by wrd3 ( 99

) on Feb-07-07 at 09:31:49 PST

chipg typically the last post for the week is late Saturday/early Sunday. Best would be to announce the winner sometime Sunday, mid day (or so).

Bill D.

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-07-07 at 09:30:55 PST

week ends Saturday night Chip

Posted by chipg ( 208

) on Feb-07-07 at 09:21:25 PST

As I never really had to pay too much attention to the "rules," I don't know how long to keep "W" open.

(Please try to refrain - it would be too easy to make that last phrase into a political statement).

Anyone want to advise me as to when should the judging decision be made and the torch passed to another letter?

Chip

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-07-07 at 09:02:48 PST

If its still the "W's", how about Wytheville VA? OK, so its only remotely a "W" via the address, but its a reason to post it. What a spectacular ad cover! This one will be a crown jewel in someones album/exhibit.

Interestingly the bidders were viewable on this one until it passed about $125. Then it reverted to the EBay aided private auction format. Looks like that method will be the wave of the future for notable things.

I hate it with a passion. :o(

Posted by 776 ( 651

)

on Feb-07-07 at 08:32:43 PST

window=widow

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-07-07 at 08:28:12 PST

NOIP… Forgot to mention yesterday that it was my grandfather’s 130th birthday. He was born on a farm in Washington County Kansas on February 6, 1877, about a month before Ulysses Grant left office as US President.

Jim

Posted by 776 ( 651

)

on Feb-07-07 at 08:23:37 PST

due2cents - Thanks, but it's technically not mine. I'm selling LT's collection for his window, Shirley Fay.

Gawg

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-07-07 at 08:04:09 PST

hey Matt

here is the NEW OHIO Doane for your records

Saint-Claridon
also you can change the EKU on Gettysburg O to Apr 15 1907

Hey Gawg Nice number 1 in your listings BTW

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-07-07 at 08:00:46 PST

Knuden… It looks like an “o” with a diagonal slash through it.

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-07-07 at 07:59:58 PST

776… Of course we like it that you’re back. You’re always welcome here at the So-So Corral (as opposed to the OK Corral).

Jeff S… Yes, nice result. Three bidders fought it out over a considerable length of time, and the payoff was yours.

Jim

Posted by knuden ( 2200

)

on Feb-07-07 at 07:53:11 PST

How does this letter look on your computer?

Ø

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3372

)

on Feb-07-07 at 07:08:29 PST

hmmmm

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3372

)

on Feb-07-07 at 07:06:32 PST

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=016&sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&viewitem=&item=260082133359&rd=1&rd=1> Unbelievable sale result this morning

Posted by 776 ( 651

)

on Feb-07-07 at 06:26:34 PST

Good Morning Jim.

Gawg

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-07-07 at 06:21:31 PST

Good day all.

W is for Wai'ale'ale.

Posted by 776 ( 651

)

on Feb-07-07 at 06:20:14 PST

Like it or not I'm back.

Gawg

Posted by claghorn1p ( 410

)

on Feb-07-07 at 05:05:34 PST

Welcome to the eBay Stamps Chat Board!

It would be greatly appreciated if chat board participants
provide LINKS to pictures
rather than posting them directly to this board.
Here's how to post a LINK. Thanks.

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You're new to stamp trading?
You've acquired a stamp collection you want to sell on eBay?
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Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-07-07 at 04:53:21 PST

An additional note about the Whiting, Indiana cover. Beside the stamp you'll notice some pencil marks. I've left them because they show the progression of type identification or classification. The "T-4" is the oldest classification identifying this as the fourth precancle type used in Whiting. The "U-120-N" comes from the Universal system where there's a standardization to the style. The "N" indicates narrow vs. wide or normal. The July 1955 is probably the receipt date added by the addressee. But now the PSS style seems to have taken over. But, if you read the older reference material it helps to know what they are referencing.

Jim L.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-07-07 at 04:46:47 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s another Indiana precancel cover. This one’s from Whiting with a PSS style 745 precancel. It was mailed by one of the PSS officers of the time. click here.

Jim L.

Posted by dbenson ( 7823

)

on Feb-07-07 at 02:19:03 PST

Having had a little experience in selling early & middle issues of Russia for the past 40 years I might be able to give some sort of guide regarding catalogue price and realisations.

Earlies

1858-1890
mint either lhm. or mnh. about 75% of Gibbons, I have no idea of Scott's catalog values.

fine used, about 50% & Gibbons.
not so fine used, from 10%-20%

Middle issues, 1890's to 1945,

mint never hinged, double to quadruple Gibbons.
lhm. 50% Gibbons
fine used. 30% Gibbons.

Modern issues

1945 onwards, mint never hinged, double Gibbons
lhm. 1945-1950 40% Gibbons
mnh. 1945 onwards 50% Gibbons
lhm. 1950 onwards, whatever you can get for them, 1950-1955 30% Gibbons, after 1955 virtually unsellable.

David B.

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-07-07 at 01:57:30 PST

Io -- Your page of Mt Rainiers omitted THIS one!

Bob in WA

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-06-07 at 23:30:05 PST

Dragon -- I found out the hard way that the seller has to scroll down to find what you put in the comment box. I once added the amount for a third won lot that wasn't on the combined invoice, only a separate one, and clearly noted this was for 3 lots, not 2, all the numbers etc. Seller sent en email saying they'd send the 2 lots the next day. I instantly replied there were 3 not two, repeated all information. When 2 lots showed up in the mail, I assumed they had read my message too late and the third would be along. Instead I got a non-paying bidder notice! Finally got it all straightened out, and was convinced the seller was just distracted, not malicious, but I never bank on the comment box being read. I'll try Jaywild's suggestion first. Thanks, all.

Bob in WA

Posted by dragonstamps ( 446

) on Feb-06-07 at 22:52:18 PST

At least you can put the item number in the description box, and just use the pull-down to choose "Ebay item".
It's the old fashioned way of doing it, but it would skirt the worries about the validity of the date stamp.

Posted by dragonstamps ( 446

) on Feb-06-07 at 22:47:20 PST

Bob in WA:
Can you log on to paypal, send the seller money and then just note what it's for?
I think at some point, you will be allowed to give an item number using this method.
Good luck.

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-06-07 at 22:42:00 PST

Bob in WA… If you choose to “do it anyway” then immediately afterward clean your browser cache then shut the browser down. That should forestall any unwelcome cookies or other crap that might have shown up as a result of the transaction.

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-06-07 at 22:39:53 PST

Bob in WA… Right click on the box that pops up, and check out the URL. It should begin with “https”, the “s” being the most important part.

Jim

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-06-07 at 22:24:38 PST

pop-up -- I can't just process through PayPal because I haven't bought the book yet! It won't let me complete the transaction before the pop-up appears. I agree that I could probably just check ''do it anyway'' or whatever that option is and all would work OK. I just hate to think this would be the relatively rare time when it is actually some fake site hiding trojans or whatever. It's probably some nonthreatening minor glitch like Jim described.

Bob in WA

Posted by jaywild ( 914

)

on Feb-06-07 at 22:15:11 PST

Mike E… Wow again. Beautiful Whitehead cancels. Here is my poorer Whitehead receiver. Do you know how many of these receivers are in existence?

stamphick… I think I vote with you on Io’s criteria. I also vote with you on just ignoring those “certificate” pop-ups, although it was Bob in WA rather than yours truly who brought the question up.

Jim

Posted by stamphick! ( 334

) on Feb-06-07 at 21:06:36 PST

deh3...IO could make a very good argument that what he said is quite acceptable.

Posted by 7720matt ( 107

) on Feb-06-07 at 21:00:39 PST

Hi all. They used the same excuse in the 90's during the time of the "Phoenix lights".

Posted by keleofa ( 3364

)

on Feb-06-07 at 20:37:10 PST

UFO's over Phoenix!

The Yuma Marine Base is telling us they were dropping amber colored flares over the Barry Goldwater Air Force Range in SW AZ. That would be in the direction we saw the lights. Do flares hover for 20 minutes?

Matt in Arizona

Posted by deh3 ( 1327

)

on Feb-06-07 at 20:32:40 PST

IO You wrote, "A better criteria ...". Either criterion or set of criteria.

I couldn't resist.

David H

Posted by stamphick! ( 334

) on Feb-06-07 at 20:05:40 PST

jaywild...You got that message on the PayPal site so it should have nothing whatever to do with your sellers certificate. Check you computer date and if it is OK just click "ignore" or "accept" or whatever.

Remember, I am not a computer expert so take this advice at your own risk. This has happened to me several times.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1217

)

on Feb-06-07 at 19:51:32 PST

cmarsha
Iomoon has given you good advice. From my own past I’d add:
The only material I’d want to pick at 80% of catalogue would be the material that has an unrealistically low catalogue value, or where the cancel (especially if it’s an Indiana Precancel) is what drives the value. Of course the ones I’d pick would have a value that far exceeds the 80% of catalogue for the basic stamp.
I suggest that you check what similar material goes for on eBay and then talk with your dealer.

Bob in WA
You might try starting on the PayPal page and click on the “Send Money” link. Then open in a second window the completed auction page. You’ll have the info to cut and paste from it into PayPal’s form to send payment. I’ve had to do that once for another auction site.

When I worked for the state I ran into a similar problem before, no real solution for us. We found out that the CPU the vendor used had the date set incorrectly (off by over 5 years) on it. So, … that prevented it from working with a computer that had a different date on it. If you’ve not checked the date setting on your computer you might try that. But if your date is correct I’d email the seller and let them know that their choice of payment methods has a problem that prevents your using it.

mikedak
Nice Brooklyn cover.

Matt
Maybe it's some of those border patrols chasing aliens. :8^ )

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s a cover from Westport, Indiana with the PSS style 717 precancel.

Jim L.

Posted by keleofa ( 3364

)

on Feb-06-07 at 19:42:13 PST

UFO's over Phoenix!,

We just got back from driving south of Phoenix. 4 very bright amber glowing lights over South Mountain and the Estrella Mountains. My friend called me and asked what was going on over Ahwatukee (my section of Phoenix). I went outside and saw the lights in the sky. It's all over the radio now. My son and I went out to chase them but they just disappeared.

Very exciting!

Matt in Arizona

Posted by prochute ( 65

) on Feb-06-07 at 19:26:51 PST

Iomoon Amicably taken! We are not in disagreement at all - just saying the same thing a bit differently. Scott does not value only based upon dealer sales alone but on folks on that list as well. Some could be large buyers or auction agents too. Regardless, the values are the values and that's what we have to work with. It's a successful formula that is reknown for many a moon (no pun intended).

Posted by mini*lindy ( 314

)

on Feb-06-07 at 19:13:50 PST

Bob in Wa if you bought the book on Half.com there is a message on the eBay Announcements page about problems checking out today.

mikedak welcome to A-Z , and well done!!

Linda

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-06-07 at 19:06:05 PST

Prochute

I would disagree, I hope amicably, on two points.

Firstly, the persons mentioned at the front of the Scott catalogs provide Scott with information. To quote "It is from those noted here that we have been able to obtain information on items not normally seen in published lists and advertisements".

Secondly, though I agree that those "in the know" set the market value for themselves, I doubt if they set it for other people. I could very well be wrong.

Bob in WA Don't use eBay, use Paypal.

Posted by mikedak ( 1221

) on Feb-06-07 at 19:03:32 PST

Finally thawing out up here on the Tundra. Might have even made it up to zero today! I have never taken part in the letter games here, but W is for Why not? Here goes:

W is for Whitehead machine cancels.
A close look at this marking reveals that it was an 'abrader' type of cancel, as the scoring on the stamp clearly shows. A look at the patent also explains how it was designed to work. I believe there is only one other copy of this known.

Here is a later version (non-abrading) of his machine on a nice cover to Germany.

And finally, a marking used on incoming mail.

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-06-07 at 18:45:51 PST

Io -- I can't complete the transaction before the popup shows. There is no ''confirm'' gray button to push, just a note saying to confirm by proceeding to PayPal, but clicking on that makes the popup warning, and I'm still not a confirmed buyer at that point. I emailed the seller last night asking about it, but so far have no reply. I guess with almost 9000 feedback they are too busy.

Bob in WA

Posted by prochute ( 65

) on Feb-06-07 at 18:20:45 PST

IOMOON I believe Scott values are based upon dealer sales over the previous year. There is always along list of the who's who in stamps near the beginning of the listings in each volume. However, the folks on this list can easily keep prices up by maintaining artificially high sales lists. Whether this is actually done I haven't a clue. Most buyers seem to buy at a percentage of catalogue anyway. It's those "in the know" who buy at, and set, true market value.

Glad to see this board has found peace. Nice, isn't it?
Phil

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-06-07 at 17:50:13 PST

Bob in WA

Go directly to your paypal site and pay via it rather than eBay.
It'll ask you for your options.
Just go to eBay auction option and type in the auction number, amount etc.

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-06-07 at 17:40:18 PST

cmarsha

Scott catalog prices are based on auction prices (so they say).
However, the catalogs only come out once per year.
Auctions depend on the number of people bidding and the desire for the stamp.
Most people will base their bidding price on what is listed in the catalog.
Sometimes, someone, will want a stamp really badly because it fills "a space" or because they recognize it as being unusual. Perhaps because of a postmark they desire if it is cancelled or a location if on a cover.

It can therefore fetch much higher than the catalog price, if the seller is lucky and the buyers match the above criteria.

Since eBay has auctions on 1, 3, 5, 7 and 10 day intervals, it may not take long for the going price to way exceed the catalog price if the item is wanted by several people.

A better criteria is to see whether a specific stamp appears on eBay at regular intervals or, as I have found in many cases over nearly eight years, never at all.

In such circumstances, if the item appears, you bid.
It may be that with respect to the catalog and your desires, the catalog could be many years out of date regarding price.

If the seller is fixing his percentage at 80%, he or she probably thinks they are going to make a profit at that amount. Whether it is the going price is, in part, up to you. You may be able to buy it for less (or more) on eBay.

I don't collect Russia, but many Armenian stamps I have never seen on eBay.

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-06-07 at 17:36:56 PST

Wow, what a bizarre story of the astronaut love triangle and the gal driving from TX to FL wearing a diaper to cut down on stops! All I could think was, she really must have been pi**ed!

I'm trying to complete a PayPal transaction on a BIN lot, but am having trouble. Usually on a BIN I get a final grey ''confirm'' button to push, then the transaction is completed and I can pay right away or perhaps later if I wish to combine with other lots first. However, on this one I get a screen saying that immediate PayPal payment is required and to go to the ''Continue to PayPal'' to confirm the bid. When I do, a pop-up window announces: ''There is a problem with the site's security certificate. The name on the security certificate is invalid or does not match the name of the site.'' I have the option of viewing the certificate, which is totally incomprehensible, so I have no idea what is going on. Is this anything to worry about? It is a domestic seller (books) with large feedback.

Bob in WA

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-06-07 at 17:15:32 PST

Just back from meeting of "other club".

Nice to see those clay pigeons explode into dust.

Did everyone in the NE and central north US freeze to death today?

My daughter must have been hurting, it was 1 degree F in University Park PA this morning and its only 7F now.

W is for World Wars.

Posted by cmarsha ( 901

) on Feb-06-07 at 17:04:33 PST

Hi, just a quick question re current catalog percentages. I recently reactivated interest in Russian material. I had been getting album page lots on approval from a dealer who was letting me pick at 55%. Seems they just got a new approval manager and he sent the most recent lot with a letter saying they now want 80%. I think that is probably reasonable for mint NH or hinged where Scott lists a differential. Its also fair- maybe even too low- for the early material. The probem is that most of the material I have been buying is hinged after 1950 and early with faults- mainly for cancels, etc. Maybe I'm wrong but 80% just seems a bit high for that stuff. Probably this dealer feels he needs to just set one percentage price which is ok, but maybe someone out there with more experience in this area can give me an opinion? Thanks!

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3372

)

on Feb-06-07 at 16:52:23 PST

CLUELESS

It's not 19th century
it's not Washington Bicentennial
It's not worth $6
It's not worth the 40 cents paid to list it

I wonder how much money eBay makes on pointless unsold listings in all categories?

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-06-07 at 14:15:36 PST

Well W has to be for Winston.

cheers

Peter

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-06-07 at 14:10:26 PST

W is for Woohoo.

We broke todays record high temperature.

K-E many thanks for the postcard in todays mail, it is gorgeous.

Terry, many thanks for the PVI's.

Posted by rolyrj ( 2 ) on Feb-06-07 at 12:03:21 PST

Linda, David B.
I have it on good authority (mine) that the Kiwi's are concentrating on A1 Grand Prix racing this year :-0
Cheers,
Roly

ps. with all our missed catches in the early games we diserve the thrashing....................

Posted by sayasan ( 600

)

on Feb-06-07 at 10:38:55 PST

Presidents? Of which country?

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-06-07 at 10:37:39 PST

Upperbay -- Why are you shouting? One good place to check what a President's signature looks like is the 1986 AMERIPEX sheets, whose individual stamps can be seen HERE and HERE. Click on any individual stamp to see it clearly magnified. These only go up to LBJ, as subsequent Presidents were still alive in 1986.

So, what did you want to know? Many modern ones are autopens, of course, or even printed on if it is on a greeting card or the like.

Bob in WA

Posted by upperbay321 ( 256

) on Feb-06-07 at 10:01:47 PST

HELLO ALL,I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE IN HERE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT PRESIDENTIAL SIGNATURES?

Posted by paperhistory ( 1971

)

on Feb-06-07 at 09:36:09 PST

chip: I'm trying to come up with something based on a "closet collection" of mine but I'm getting my butt kicked at work and haven't had time to work on it. Hopefully I'll be able to do better than scan a single cover of it...

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-06-07 at 09:26:59 PST

Thanks Dave
I have a few examples and noticed this was the most common.

Posted by nomad55 ( 863

)

on Feb-06-07 at 09:24:51 PST

Good morning Pro.
The whole subject of mail addressed to expos has not been extensively studied, although Karlen makes a good start in his book on Columbians [Chicago's White City]. But he does not segregate out the info as a separate chapter or section, but rether its interspersed thoughout the whole volume.
The Norfolk machine is relatively easy to find as a receiving cancel, whereas the hand applied Norfolk expo Received marking is darn near impossible to locate properly used.
Your machine cancel is a nice example, as its on the cover front as opposed to the back side.

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-06-07 at 08:39:46 PST

Nomad
Was this Machine the one Used to Recieve Most Items at
Norfolk??
NO7-05

Posted by chipg ( 208

) on Feb-06-07 at 07:22:18 PST

Just got a chance to check back in after a couple of days and found that you have judged me the winner of the "V" and I am up to judge the "W"s. Guess that it's true that no good deed goes unpunished. (just kidding).

Happy to do it. Now, make it hard for me and post some nice stuff, OK?

Chip

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-06-07 at 06:25:42 PST

Here is an interesting (to me) Postcard
mailed in 1951 The sender covered up the orginal CDS
with the Prexie Coil used an eraser to remove olde Pencil message and address from postcard (it is very faint But visible) wrote New message in INK .
Nicelabeltoo

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-06-07 at 06:19:18 PST

Good day all.

W is for Washington.

Posted by jaywild ( 913

)

on Feb-06-07 at 05:58:15 PST

I thought the correct spelling was Sandy Eggo…

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 913

)

on Feb-06-07 at 05:31:13 PST

Jim L… Lovely provisional precancel you showed…

Jim

Posted by greenwave4u ( 71

) on Feb-06-07 at 05:27:51 PST

Linda I would be amazed if you didn't win the finals. Hard luck to all Kiwis, perhaps our guys have finally turned the corner:-)
Peter

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)

on Feb-06-07 at 05:22:12 PST

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Posted by jim_lawler ( 1215

)

on Feb-06-07 at 04:55:59 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

In keeping with the "W" theme to see the top of a small box mailed with a 714 precancel from West Terre Haute, Indiana click here.

Jim L.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 313

)

on Feb-06-07 at 03:27:48 PST

well done England, bad luck Roly, It was a good game..

now, can we beat the English in the finals??

of course!!

Linda

Posted by sheryll*net ( 90

)

on Feb-06-07 at 00:13:44 PST

In my excitement on receiving a Vanuatu Volcano Post postcard, I forgot to post my favourite V - flying Vegemite! Vegemite is an Aussie staple, but most foreigners (and some Aussies!) don't like the salty, yeasty taste. It is a standard spread for small children's sandwiches, and is good on toast when recovering from an upset stomach.

S2

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1215

)

on Feb-05-07 at 21:48:49 PST

:8^ (
It's past my bedtime.

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1215

)

on Feb-05-07 at 21:44:16 PST

due2centsNice 1921 Christmas Seal cover. Don’t see many like that one.

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s a provisional usage of a cancel fro precanceling stamps from West Lafayette, Indiana. This was done after the device had been approved and ordered, but before it arrived. click here

Jim L.

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Feb-05-07 at 21:32:57 PST

Brian -
The Board was going for 5 hours with no posts and you screwed up the test. LOL. It would have set a record, but who knows when it might be attempted in the future. Jeeez, some people!@@!@# waack waaack.

Roger

Posted by mini*lindy ( 313

)

on Feb-05-07 at 21:16:12 PST

thanks ioJim, thats a nice Wimbledon stamp! L.

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-05-07 at 20:50:25 PST

test
no posts in hours?

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-05-07 at 16:38:45 PST

Bob in WA

Whitney has illustration of a 1675 cancellation (4 digit).
"SX post comes and goes every day 1675".
SX = Essex (English county).
Catalogued at several thousand dollars in the 1980's.

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-05-07 at 16:36:20 PST

richard/1covers Thanks for clearing that up. Looks like I've defamed yet another! At least Scott won't be likely to chase me down and beat me with a stick. LOL! On the other hand, he DID provide the artwork......sort of like the ~~Dietz~~ Springfield facsimiles 50 years later.

Pretty sure Dietz won't be coming after me either.....

Posted by 1covers ( 1277

)

on Feb-05-07 at 16:00:45 PST

Brian - John Scott may NOT have made those forgeries directly. What he did was to sell the cliches used to print his albums to the public. Those cliches were put to bad use - probably mostly by others. Same situation likely with Moens. Both types of fakes can be told by comparison to characteritics found in the album illustrations.

Posted by rclwa ( 952

) on Feb-05-07 at 15:46:43 PST

Lindy -- Yes, especially her tete-beche specialties!

Kidding aside, I enjoyed your 18th century items. Got me to wondering, how early do stamped (as opposed to handwritten) markings show a 4-digit yeardate? Anybody know? (Hmmm, maybe something to save for Y is for Year!)

Bob in WA

Posted by rolyrj ( 2 ) on Feb-05-07 at 15:40:35 PST

David B. Glad you said Johnathon would end up in "Narueland" and not "Nauruland" :)
That would be just too close for comfort.
cheers
Roly

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-05-07 at 15:09:04 PST

Vinnysf LOL! No, I ment as in the homemade creations of JW Scott himself, embarrassingly enough, the ancestoral founder of the Scott catalog.

Like many in the later half of the 19th century, Scott realized that those nice album printers, had inadvertantly tapped into a deep and powerfully addictive node in the human psyche -- FILL THE HOLE! Nothing like a pre printed slot for a scary rarity, like a Confederate provisional (known by genuine examples you could count on the fingers of one hand), to drive the demand nuts.

Even the CSA general issues posed problems. Sure they were available, but it was apparently quite frunstrating to find a large enough supply of them in then devestated south, to fill all those orders which had piled up. So the call of the dark side was answered. Besides,...those clueless European philatelists stuck on the other side of the pond would never know the difference. (seems back in the 1870's they didn't have helpful internet chats like this to warn them). It became even MORE convenient when many early catalogs began to illustrate the various issues using Scott's own forgery designs. LOL!

Knuden I concur! However, I miss the little guy in the top hat. :o(

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-05-07 at 14:57:20 PST

For Linda

W is for Wimbledon.

Posted by mini*lindy ( 313

)

on Feb-05-07 at 14:33:37 PST

~~~~~ waves HI to the silly little man
who I dont think is silly at all!, and Knud I enjoy your postings and scans very much, and I agree that lady at the Czech Spa Resort looks like she is saying Do you want to come upstairs to view my stamp collection?

also ~~~~ waves Bon Voyage and Safe Travel to Roger

Linda

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-05-07 at 14:31:05 PST

This is more like it should be.

Jeff

Interesting, your stamp comes from the town of one of our schools.

Posted by vinnysf ( 295

) on Feb-05-07 at 14:19:28 PST

briguy - do you mean the two fakes on the left look pretty close to being real? maybe the high bidder might try and sell them as real confederates...that would be a bad result. i do have another forgery sheet of confederates that i will sell later but i think its best that i just stay away from confederate stamps in general. i got a good lashing awhile back when i unknowingly listed a fake confed. ooooooo did i get schooled, or did i get schooled! lol

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Feb-05-07 at 14:18:33 PST

As for the "little Man" below me. Give him a wave back, he deserves credit for all his efforts in participating here on an "English speaking" chat. I can understand valiant attempts, but not lazy attempts at the "lingua franca".

Roger

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Feb-05-07 at 14:15:18 PST

You didn't think I was going to leave that simply, did you? LOL
I hope I don't forget where the space key is on my keyboard, nor the shift key. While I'm gone I'll have th eopportunity to view but it'll be unlikely I'll be posting. I hear "si's" of relief from the yuppies, and huzzas from those who don't have a sense of humor. )'>)

Roger

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Feb-05-07 at 14:12:31 PST

I'm now waiting to see informational markings claiming " Damage Due to Stage Rollover", or "Letter Lost / Tunnel Cave-In" That wouldn't work as the letter was found! "Sunk on Alpine Lake Disaster", "Holes Made from Cheese". Now I'm getting a lecture on the history of art, which is sort of nice since that is the field in which I receieved my degree. I actually wrote a senior paper discussing 20th century forgeries in art. Going on vacation in a couple of days so can't linger here, it's not productive.

Roger

Posted by knuden ( 2199

)

on Feb-05-07 at 14:03:08 PST

I have for many years collected Czechoslovakia and one stamp has always fasinated me. It's the 75h stamp from this issue. What I really like, is ~~her~~ the look at her face - shy but also with a twinkle in her eyes. :O)

K.E

I'm a silly little man - whoopee!!

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-05-07 at 14:02:47 PST

Bjorn Just a guess but possibly Licensed Franchise Sender ?

Posted by mini*lindy ( 313

)

on Feb-05-07 at 14:01:00 PST

W is for WILLCOX the WELLDIGGER his circular type handstamp in red, was used by B.WILLCOX, Welldigger of Putney, Surry (sp) from 1790 to 1801. He was a private Penny Post receiver, and most receivers of the day used elaborate handstamps to mark their mail and advertise both their normal everyday business and the fact that they were a post receiving house.

This 1798 Sept 20 unpaid wrapper was addressed to the Strand, London at the 2d rate, with an oval PUTNEY PENNY POST UNPAID handstamp, which replaced the Putney –1- straight line type in 1797. It was then handstamped 7 o’clock SP 20 .98 NIGHT together with the Willcox handstamp

Linda

Posted by bjornmu ( 871

) on Feb-05-07 at 14:00:50 PST

Sorry for the bold. I never seem to learn.

Posted by bjornmu ( 871

) on Feb-05-07 at 13:59:44 PST

Postalhysteria, wow! And that with only two bids.

W is for WRONGLY DATED BY POSTER, a recent aqcuisition. The machine cancel says 8-8-87. Anyone know what's this "L.F.S" it was not to be sampled under?

Posted by mini*lindy ( 313

)

on Feb-05-07 at 13:57:41 PST

--and as the specially ordered bus pulled up at the wedding receitpion a passer by was heard to exclaim.....
wht a load of Schitt !!

thank you allec!!!!!!! ;o)

and to keep it philatelic, I 'll go post my W ... is for...

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-05-07 at 13:38:51 PST

Time for a little humour ? A story I have told here before I think but the never ending rants by JD reminded me of the story.
For some time many of us have wondered just who is Jack Schitt? We find ourselves at a loss when someone says, "You don't know Jack Schitt!" Well, thanks to my genealogy efforts, you can now respond in an intellectual way.

Jack Schitt is the only son of Awe Schitt.
Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate, married
O. Schitt, the owner of Needeep N. Schitt, Inc.
They had one son, Jack.
In turn, Jack Schitt married Noe Schitt.
The deeply religious couple produced
six children: Holie Schitt, Giva Schitt,
Fulla Schitt, Bull Schitt, and the twins
Deap Schitt and Dip Schitt. Against her
parents' objections, Deap Schitt married
Dumb Schitt, a high school dropout.
After being married 15 years, Jack and
Noe Schitt divorced. Noe Schitt later
married Ted Sherlock, and, because her
kids were living with them, she wanted to
keep her previous name. She was then known
as Noe Schitt Sherlock.
Meanwhile, Dip Schitt married Loda Schitt,
and they produced a son with a rather
nervous disposition named Chicken Schitt.
Two of the other six children, Fulla Schitt
and Giva Schitt, were inseparable throughout
childhood and subsequently married the
Happens brothers in a dual ceremony.
The wedding announcement in the newspaper
announced the Schitt-Happens nuptials.
The Schitt-Happens children were Dawg,
Byrd, and Hoarse. Bull Schitt, the prodigal
son, left home to tour the world. He recently
returned from Italy with his new Italian bride, Pisa
Schitt.
Now, when someone says, "You don't know Jack Schitt,"
you can correct them.

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3367

)

on Feb-05-07 at 13:30:00 PST

I had never heard of taxi or vehicle for hire tax stamps until I picked up a couple in a recent lot (non-ebay).

A little Google work paid off.

Jeff

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-05-07 at 13:21:08 PST

Direct link to the German ebay site is http://chatboards.ebay.de/chat.jsp?forum=1&thread=40

Don't be put off by the chit chat. Depending on who is online it is used more for general chat but you can also get some very good philatelic discussions going. Of course it helps to understand German but many there do speak very good English

Posted by lluehhhb ( 238

) on Feb-05-07 at 13:07:26 PST

would "brain damage" instead of "water damage" be OK? I could finish buying one!

Posted by lluehhhb ( 238

) on Feb-05-07 at 13:05:10 PST

Hi Alec

Thank you very much for the info.
Since it's a commercial cover it's curious the overfranking. Maybe that's why the sender tried to remove the top right stamp from the block but finally left it there.
If the stamps were applied first and later the meter, why would the total be wrong? maybe a bad calculation?
and if the meter was first and the stamps later, why choose 3,25 RM? I don't get it.
I guess it's not a philatelic creation but who knows. Looks nice anyway.

I tried to find the .de cafe but failed. Can you post a direct link?

Posted by mini*lindy ( 313

)

on Feb-05-07 at 13:00:50 PST

I was thinking more like MISSENT TO YAHOO

Posted by dbenson ( 7811

)

on Feb-05-07 at 12:56:19 PST

Richard, or MISSENT TO NARU

David B.

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-05-07 at 12:42:42 PST

Infl-Alec

I will post some for you later (I'm sorting and looking for something right now)
I have quite a few Infla Postcards now and have been thinking it's time to learn more about them. I have the rate chart.

Posted by sayasan ( 600

)

on Feb-05-07 at 12:42:12 PST

David - Could that mean a sighting of the rare (uncatalogued) instructional handstamp "CHUCKED OFF EBAY" ...?

Posted by infla-alec ( 506

)

on Feb-05-07 at 12:34:40 PST

Lluehhhb/Millenko ? I hope I have your first name correct. I took the liberty of asking in the ebay .de chat board about your Wagner cover to Chile. The cover is unfortunately overfranked by 15 Pfennigs. The rate should have been 4,90 RM. Calculated by 3 rd weight (15g) via Air France = 3 x 1,55 + Foreign letter 25 Pfennig = 4,90RM.
The meter cancel reads 3,25 and not 3,95. If you ever need to know any German Airmail rates ask in the .de Cafe. The specialist colector of Airmail , especially Zeppelins is ebayer , "lebenslauf" .
You can post in English there also and someone can translate your question quite easily and any replies given.

Mitch I'm happy to go along with a further ABC showing based on a theme rather than a country. It needs to be kept simple. Though next time around no judging may be best. Just let everybody show what they can come up with.
If others would please indicate how they would like the philatelic theme to continue we can agree something before the current show ends.

Due 2 cents My ears pricked up when I read inflation covers. I'd be happy to view any scans and tell you if the rates are correct or if anything special is amongst what you have.

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-05-07 at 12:34:11 PST

Thanks for the ID Bjornmu
I never worry about values really I buy the things I like for My collection, The TB label is a new one for me and just adds to the number of Seals tied .

Posted by dbenson ( 7811

)

on Feb-05-07 at 12:32:39 PST

cover,

Selangor 4 is 2000 Pounds & 14 is 3000 Pounds, both need certificates,

David B.

Posted by sayasan ( 600

)

on Feb-05-07 at 12:29:48 PST

Rusian = Russian

Posted by sayasan ( 600

)

on Feb-05-07 at 12:28:25 PST

Temporarily stumped for a W from Burma. As evidence that I still take an occasional interest in non-Burmese things, here's a Work in progress - my accumulation of the 1919 unissued Rusian Western Army (Avalov-Bermondt) eagles. I still have hundreds of these. There are unissued originals, at least two different forgeries, plus retouches of one forgery, plus overprints of "Yedinstvo i Svoboda" (Unity and Freedom), all with different perfs, imperf, different shades, different papers. And the best thing is - they're cheap as chips! All I need to do to complete this important study is to figure out where I put the Barefoot and Hall forgery guide pamphlet on this issue. And find some spare time ...

Richard W.

Posted by coversplus ( 8737

)

on Feb-05-07 at 12:27:18 PST

Does any one have a current/recent Stanley Gibbons? I could use the catalog value for Selangor #4 and #14, both used of course. Many Thanks. Eric.

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-05-07 at 12:05:19 PST

vinnysf A bit of free advice here (not intended to offend). You've got a nice auction of CSA fakes up right now, which should bring you a nice chunk of change. Many CSA collectors have a perverse love of the old 19th century woodcut forgeries. For that reason, its the fakes of the blue 5c CSA #4, thats feuling the three nibbles so far.

The two at left on that scan are attributible to Scott. The one on the upper right is an Upham. Afraid I can't I'd tell what the fourth is, except it looks like a century old woodcut too.

If you have anymore of those, run them seperately. Each should bring in $10-20 on their own.

Posted by dbenson ( 7811

)

on Feb-05-07 at 11:56:06 PST

NOIP, I heard a rumor that Jonathan's plane has been hijacked and will be landing in Narueland instead of it's original destination,

David B.

Posted by thebriguy1 ( 64

) on Feb-05-07 at 11:47:38 PST

I'll give JohnAndDeanTheForger credit in one respect. His idiotic rambles are pure comedy. Anywhere else this sort of stuff requires a two drink minimum.

Hey Roger, according to the drivel in their latest post,...they're SWISS! Play nice, and maybe they'll offer you first shot at a Basel dove on cover, graced by a nice "damaged by zeppelin crash in Angola" auxiliary. :o)

Pssst......John&Dean forgery shop, if you add a "mailed from several Swiss hotels" marking....he'll pay more.

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-05-07 at 11:46:44 PST

This one isn't mine, but I thought people might like to read it.

W is for Waterfalls of the World.

Posted by bjornmu ( 871

) on Feb-05-07 at 11:24:50 PST

Due, yes that's a charity label issued by the Swedish National Association against Tuberculosis (if I'm able to read the small print correctly). No idea about rarity or value.

Posted by jaywild ( 913

)

on Feb-05-07 at 11:17:45 PST

Wrong category alert… This seller’s stamps have all been listed in US 19th Century used, so it might be worth browsing through his listings if you are interested in other countries’ early issues. You’d never find them doing a search in the proper categories.

Jim

Posted by dr.searchphd ( 0 ) on Feb-05-07 at 11:13:16 PST

DUES2CENTS;
Your 'time -on-bottom' bottom card may be a var with a 'nail head' in the printing method not sure from scan?

PROF;
Thank you for the posting of the color chart, always interested in the printing methods used will try and dig up the color chart that was done for the early 3 cents by a tremendous student Mal Brown who i had to listen and learn from at the so. cal. shows. Always liked his reference material and over the years have been able to gather a nice selection, including c. chase pairs used for the plating and other types of 'fly specking'.

Posted by sayasan ( 600

)

on Feb-05-07 at 10:46:29 PST

Jonathan - Your flight has been called. Please go to the boarding gate. Now.

Posted by jfr ( 660

) on Feb-05-07 at 10:35:37 PST

Hello All,

It has been a while since I posted. I could use some help with some Mexican and some Ecuador stamps. I am helping the family of a good friend that passed away at the end of last year. I am more than capable of handling his extensive Brazil material which is how I got involved, however I am lost with the Mexico and Ecuador. Is there a regular board member that would be interested in helping with these other countries?

Thanks in advance,

JFR
Jon

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 570

) on Feb-05-07 at 10:09:20 PST

malolo
We are not Israeli. Jonathan handles has handled the lucrative and yes lucky Private Venure prctice and Private Hedge Fund clients in Israel for almost 2 decades. We are all Swiss even though all the 8 listers are naturlized citizens of the country where we have been running a Family business office similar to the one in Israel. We hold dual citizenship. Israel in terms of start-ups and investment is second only to Silicon Valley.Fact not fiction.Now I am been called.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 570

) on Feb-05-07 at 09:53:37 PST

One last one before we go. Does anyone know of a catalogue of US postal history concentrating on Damaged by Water , Fire, Salt Water of both. All the books on disaster mail including 5 covers from the January 21st 1948 Eastern Airlines crash have different Damaged by Water and other auxiliary hand stamps.Probably applied at the destination not seen . Two are accompanied by a note from Patrick J. Connelly Post M with a letter of apology . If the heading of the note is correct he was Post Master in US Post Office, Inquiry Section, South POstal Annex , Boston 9, Mass. The crash occurred at Logan Airport.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 570

) on Feb-05-07 at 09:43:39 PST

jay wild
No offence. I see Jonathan had the same problem. My flight has been called and have to check out. Certainly the wrong person to give you a synopsis of what Jonathan wrote.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 570

) on Feb-05-07 at 09:41:55 PST

malolo
It is clear and we don't hide it that we are Jewish. Many Jews in the 1930,40 and 50 invested in the contemporaty art (oil paintings) and purchased some directly from the artists.I am afraid my calculator does not have enough zeros for the profit magine on a number of oil painting we sold in the 1990's and 2000+. Just as you invest in philately hopefully wisely in postal history rather than stamps, so did Family and that continues today. Nothing strange about. Ever been to Israel. Go to the Tel Aviv Art Museum or even better the Israel Museum and you will on one wall see $400 million worth of art at the Tel Aviv Museum that has 9 Picasso cubism style oil paintings on loan or donation on one wall.In that room their is possibly a billion dollars worth of art. The Israel Museum probably matches the Trafalgar Square in terms of quality but exceeds in interms of quantity. So what is your problem. That x's grandfather had insight as to what something would be worth 8 decades latter and y's grandfather didn't have. Even contemporary philatelic history less than 2 decades old have enormous value if you used your intelligence.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 570

) on Feb-05-07 at 09:27:59 PST

jaywild
DAMAGED BY EXPLOSION
Ironically this one is catlogued in a number of catalogues on disaster mail

Posted by malolo ( 836

)

on Feb-05-07 at 09:26:39 PST

Jeff -
Could you please ttranslate Jonathon's tirade? It seems to me the "Butler's" got around and the family ended up in Israel.

Jonathon - You have th ematerial to finish your life timew contribution to philately by cataloguing everything in your "Fund". The publish the results and give them all a catalogue value. Then "investors" around the world will be able to plan their retirements based on 7000% inflation and tell their heirs, "Sleep well, for I have invested in instructional markings. They will be valuable after I pass on. Do not take to stamp dealers for evaluation, they will not offer any money to you. It is their method of cheating. Only trust Uncle Jonathon, he knows all."

Roger

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3367

)

on Feb-05-07 at 09:23:29 PST

JONOTHAN DEAN: your family's wealth and your personal philatelic knowledge should leave us speechless...

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3367

)

on Feb-05-07 at 09:21:57 PST

JAYWILD: MAIL DAMAGED BY EXPLOSION handstamp??

Posted by postalhysteria ( 3367

)

on Feb-05-07 at 09:20:31 PST

Perhaps I can translate message from iamthefrog:

I hope someone could felp me

WANTS HELP

posted em to lyons but no response

HE SENT AN E-MAIL TO GARY LYONS A CANADIAN DEALER, RECEIVED NO REPLY

looking over canada early issues

HE IS LOOKING AT SOME CANADA PLATE VARIETIES

new varieties as follows anyone know any thing out there #90 witrh hook as in 77v

#20 IS THE 2C EDWARD, ASKING ABAOUT A VARIETY

#140 printing skip in surcharge "broken N "

#140 IS A SURCHARGED 3-CENT ADMIRAL ISSUE, HE ASKS ABOUT A DEFECT IN THE SURCHARGE

# 173 spire extends through both frame and surrounding white arch

#173 IS THE 10-CENT LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT, MESSAGE REGARDING CONSTANT (?) PLATE FLAW

#226 "d" in canada has white top extending to left almost connecting to "a"

#226 IS THE 50C PARLIAMENT OF 1935, HE ASKS ABOUT A PLATE FLAW.

I HAVE NO INFORMATION ON THE SUBJECTS.

JEFF (DOES THAT MAKE ME BI-LINGUAL?)

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 570

) on Feb-05-07 at 09:08:13 PST

jaywild
Don't be naive. Sice our great grandfather started collecting anything and everything on paper as "the Family Hedge Fund" , he had the insight then that some thing worth x in 1930 would be X x 7000 in 2006.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 570

) on Feb-05-07 at 09:05:28 PST

jaywild
Thisis not Jonathan. English is his third or fourth language.The same is applicable for all the listers.

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-05-07 at 08:19:49 PST

Christmas-seal-postage

Posted by due2cents ( 24

) on Feb-05-07 at 08:18:39 PST

NOIP-

got a couple of things I liked this weekend

Here is a Christmas Seal used and accepted for postage
1921

I just liked this Inflation usage
Germany

and K.E. or Bjornmu
would either of you Know what this label/stamp/cinderella is
Swedish?

Posted by jaywild ( 913

)

on Feb-05-07 at 08:18:18 PST

Io… The Westminster Abbey stamp you showed is both elegant and eloquent. If I am not mistaken, that is the Henry VII chapel.

Jim

Posted by nomad55 ( 863

)

on Feb-05-07 at 07:24:56 PST

Postal Hysteria - your packet received. An equitable trade. TYVM.

The super bowl jokes have already started.....
"What did you think of Rex?"
"Gross, man!"

And in honor of our latest troll...
"What do you think of jonathan and dean?"
"Even grosser, man!"

Posted by thines ( 1429

) on Feb-05-07 at 07:02:31 PST

Iamthefrog,

Your post makes no sense at all. Try adding periods at the end of sentences and upper case letters at the start like literate people do.

Terence Hines

Posted by iomoon ( 1041

)

on Feb-05-07 at 06:15:28 PST

Good day all.

W is for Westminster Abbey.

Posted by jaywild ( 913

)

on Feb-05-07 at 05:50:27 PST

the frog… In order to help you we need to understand what you are saying. Please rewrite your post using punctuation, grammar and at least a ballpark effort at correct spelling.

Jim

Posted by iamthefrog ( 265

) on Feb-05-07 at 05:44:14 PST

I hope someone could felp me posted em to lyons but no response looking over canada early issues new varieties as follows anyone know any thing out there #90 witrh hook as in 77v #140 printing skip in surcharge "broken N " # 173 spire extends through both frame and surrounding white arch #226 "d" in canada has white top extending to left almost connecting to "a"

Posted by jaywild ( 913

)

on Feb-05-07 at 05:30:05 PST

jonathan dean… In the vast bowels of your most recent post I saw this line—

Some also recommended that we enclude (sic) a blown up picture with each detailed description we we (sic) do and on occasion we have been asked for even bigger blow up but then the picture starts to get blurred…

I heartily concur. Best results will be obtained with dynamite. Be sure and pack the crap very tightly around the dynamite.

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 913

)

on Feb-05-07 at 05:24:46 PST

jonathan dean… Since you have taken issue with philatelists who “criticise but don’t recommend”, here’s a recommendation for you. Stop peddling crap you have made yourself while describing it as something “found” or “discovered”, the implication being that it might be worth something. All the junk you create is worth about 10¢ a ton, as recycle paper.

Jim

Posted by jim_lawler ( 1213

)

on Feb-05-07 at 05:14:54 PST

Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all

Linda mini*lindy
Nice cancel. I’d call it a keeper and I don’t really collect the cancels or postal history of Victoria.

In keeping with the "W" theme here’s a precanceled Wrapper from Washington, Indiana click here .

Jim L.

Posted by jaywild ( 913

)

on Feb-05-07 at 04:48:01 PST

Lindy… Thanks for sorting out Wimbledon for me. We Yanks get confused if the streets aren’t all laid out at right angles…

Jim

Posted by jaywild ( 913

)

on Feb-05-07 at 04:40:15 PST

Hutch… There is no joy in Mudville…

Jim

Posted by cwhutch ( 617

)

on Feb-05-07 at 01:50:46 PST

Good morning.

Well well, Looks like Da Bears are Da Feated. Ha Ha .

Hutch

Posted by vinnysf ( 295

) on Feb-05-07 at 01:42:23 PST

"Z is for DanZig

Posted by 22028 ( 1551

)

on Feb-05-07 at 01:32:11 PST

mini*lindy, logging in is or problem but sending money...

Posted by vinnysf ( 295

) on Feb-05-07 at 01:29:05 PST

"W" is for Wurttemberg

Posted by mini*lindy ( 312

)

on Feb-05-07 at 01:21:19 PST

Rainer, I just logged in to PayPal fine!

Posted by 22028 ( 1551

)

on Feb-05-07 at 01:18:31 PST

Am I the only one who is having problems with Paypal today?

Posted by vinnysf ( 295

) on Feb-05-07 at 01:11:24 PST

can someone help me identify this ?

Posted by mini*lindy ( 312

)

on Feb-05-07 at 01:09:18 PST

OPPS--- -obviously johnyboy has no idea of world times!!! -- he needs an international clock on his computer!

oh he's only made 2 promises of no return today, Mitch, glad I didnt take you up on that bet, you have won that one my friend!!

C.G. Congratulations on your win Chip, very well deserved too. Will you volunteer to judge the W ENTRIES?

Linda

Posted by dbenson ( 7808

)

on Feb-05-07 at 00:47:36 PST

jonathan, you forgot to give me the Ebay ID that listed those disinfected markings,

David B.

Posted by jonathandean8 ( 570

) on Feb-05-07 at 00:26:19 PST