eBay chatboard archive: Jan-01-07 to Jan-07-07 week

Posted by dbenson   ( 7693 ) on Jan-07-07 at 23:51:11 PST   Listings
upper,

you will find Andy's email & phone # on this page,

http://www.rpsc.org/judges.htm

give him a call, he loves to talk and allow yourself about 3 or 4 hours. Give him my regards and tell him that Chris T recommended him as the best reference on that area. There is an irony to that and Andy will tell you why,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7693 ) on Jan-07-07 at 23:14:20 PST   Listings
upper, re. Bessarabia,

my friend has informed me that the only article he knows about was written by Andy Cronin in " The Postrider ". As Andy is a fellow countryman of yours (and mine as well although he left Australia over 50 years ago) you should contact him in Toronto or the Russian PH Society and ask for details. Let me know if you need any email addresses for Andy or the society,

Regards,

David Benson
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 393 ) on Jan-07-07 at 22:51:16 PST   Listings
Thanks billsey, I am done for the night though. I may put up one of the not so sad (does that make them happy?) Saxony issues tomorrow, for comparison's sake. Off to bed.
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Jan-07-07 at 22:43:25 PST   Listings
Nice Saxony, and I notice that the pages keep on going up. :-)
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 393 ) on Jan-07-07 at 22:32:55 PST   Listings
Sad Saxons 6
Sad Saxons 7
Sad Saxons 8
Sad Saxons 9
Sad Saxons 10
Sad Saxons 11
Sad Saxons 12
Sad Saxons 13
Sad Saxons 14
Sad Saxons 15
Sad Saxons 16
Sad Saxons 17
Sad Saxons 18
Sad Saxons 19
Sad Saxons 20

I'll leave it at that, it's only part of the collection, but I am still working on cancellations and usages.
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 393 ) on Jan-07-07 at 22:24:43 PST   Listings
S is for Saxony, or Sachsen. S also stands for the "Sad Saxons". Among German Saxony collectors, the last definitive stamp issue of the Kingdom of Saxony, the "Coat of Arms" issue of July 1, 1863, is sometimes referred to as "Trauersachsen" or "Sad Saxons", because they are rather sad looking compared to the engraved King Frederick Augustus II and King John I issues. Judge for yourself:

Sad Saxons 1
Sad Saxons 2
Sad Saxons 3
Sad Saxons 4
Sad Saxons 5

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-07-07 at 21:40:31 PST   Listings
UPPERCANADIAN-----Really don't know the area as well as you and what i have is recent material .Your going to have a hard time finding a 1918 cover since that whole area was uncertain{unstable} and if mail came out it most likely had a Romania or Russian postal stamp and/or cancel ,who reckonized that government and its mail system ....paul
Posted by chk99989   ( 142 ) on Jan-07-07 at 21:23:34 PST   Listings
infla-alec Thanks for the info on the Spanish
Civil War stuff. I have passed it on to the interested
party.

Chris - currently working on Spain, but after WWII
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Jan-07-07 at 21:16:21 PST   Listings
There was some wonderful Moldova in the recent David Feldman auction early in December.
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Jan-07-07 at 21:14:03 PST   Listings
I have placed the R winner info on our web site. Congratulations Jim! And a special thanks to Bill D for that excellent capture of the entries. :-)
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 827 ) on Jan-07-07 at 19:52:28 PST   Listings
Paul,

I didn't think there were too many Moldovan collectors out there - it is great to find one. I have a lot of the issues for the Republic of Moldova, although I haven't picked up any of the first overprinted ones yet. I have a pretty good source for stamps in Chisinau, and actually sell a few here on Ebay. When you say the "unlisted questionable issue", do you mean the issues from Transnistria or Pridnestrovie as the Russians call it?? Although only Russia recognizes it, it is essentially independent of Moldova and has been since 1992.

I am applying a rather strict interpretation to the geography of Bessarabia. All lands between the Pruth and the Dniester River, as far northwest as Cernauti in Bukovina. As for the Danuba Delta region, which exchanged hands back and forth many times, I am including lands north of the St.Gheorghe branch of the Danube but not Dobrogea itself. This would exclude Tiraspol and Transnistria from my collecting interest, for the time being anyway.

Have you come across any postmarks or covers from 1918??

All the best,

Brad
Posted by jaywild   ( 905 ) on Jan-07-07 at 18:47:16 PST   Listings
Yipes… With all the great “R” postings I did not expect to win. I am indebted to D1 for selecting me, and I will endeavor to act like a usurping tyrant and trample on the rights and sensibilities of everyone I don’t kill outright as a respectful steward of the responsibility to judge the “S” entries.

J

So behave everyone…

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-07-07 at 17:53:24 PST   Listings
UPPERCANADIAN ------Yes ,i do collect the area ,have a few album pages for the region . I have the country for the recent issues,also the early issues that were the overprints of the U.S.S.R . also the unlisted questionable issues that most specialist would say that are recently issued by a Russian lead indepdence movement .Also have info on the early Moldavia bull issues ....paul
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 827 ) on Jan-07-07 at 17:31:38 PST   Listings
David B,

Thanks for the feedback. I would be grateful for any information you and your Romanian friend can get. My wife is Moldovan (Bessarabian), so no problem getting Romanian or Russian translated. Well - the problem might be to get her to read the material of course!!

As for the forgeries, you make a good point. I would certainly not make a mark unless I was 100% sure, but of course, errors do happen. How else are we to keep forged stamps from making the rounds through the marketplace year after year though?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1037 ) on Jan-07-07 at 15:44:57 PST   Listings
Peter

Correct, 0f course.

No more Lon Gisland, back in Scars Dale!!
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 15:22:56 PST   Listings
upper, no way should you stamp them forgery, even if they are. It is a heinous act and many times has ruined a perfectly genuine stamp.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 15:17:44 PST   Listings
upper, I will ask my Romanian friend if there is any literature on the subject and I am sure there would be as there are myriads of articles on all sorts of Romanian Postal History, the problem is that it will most probably be in Romanian,

David B.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 827 ) on Jan-07-07 at 15:16:16 PST   Listings
Someone below asked what the best way of dealing with forgeries is. I have an envelope full of them, and thought perhaps I would have a small rubber stamp made that read "FORGERY". I could then gently stamp each of them and sell them with a free conscience.

Views????
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 827 ) on Jan-07-07 at 15:14:20 PST   Listings
I was wondering if anyone here had any knowledge or resources connected with Bessarabia. I have just started to investigate building a collection on this region. It corresponds closely to the current country of Moldova. It is interesting, in that the region has been divided and exchanged many times between the Ottomans, Romanians and Russians. The Russians controlled the entire region from the 1878 Treaty of Berlin, until the dying days of World War I.

On January 24th, 1918 after assistance from the Romanian army, the Russians were ejected and the Moldavian Democratic Republic was declared. On April 9, 1918, The government agreed to merges with Romania - where it remained until 1940, when under the terms of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, the Russian gave the Romanians 4 days to withdraw from Bessarabia. Though the Romanians high-tailed it, it was not fast enough for the Russians who killed some 43,000 people on their way in. It remained Russian until the Republic of Moldova was proclaimed in 1991.

I am interested specifically in that 2 month period though in Bessarabia, where they were independent. I have never come across any covers or any evidence at all from that period. Does anyone have knowledge in this area, or can point me in the right direction? Do you think that there would have been any changes in terms of the postal service, or would they have just continued using Russian stamps until they merged with Romania.

Thanks,

Brad
Posted by mrsamoa   ( 358 ) on Jan-07-07 at 13:36:04 PST   Listings
Hi Matt and David B. Sorry, but I had to run out to do some shopping.

Although I did not make it to Washington, I know Jan's Samoan exhibit. I have seen various parts of it over the years.

Gotta run,

Take care, all

Maryt
Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-07-07 at 13:08:54 PST   Listings
Marty - How's it going? Check in more often -- we need your help with Samoa items!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 12:46:46 PST   Listings
Paul, I agree, Americans can use the term Syncopated and the rest of the world " Interrupted perfs ".

Paul, the various types of collecting has no relevance, it was from the 1870's and belongs to the dim, dark past of collecting and has been superseded by different types of collecting. At that time Postal History & Thematics were unknown, no need to discuss them when discussing coil perforations,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-07-07 at 12:39:24 PST   Listings
David B.------Scott catalog has been using the word for over 70 years in their printed catalog ,doesn't sound like much of a point to fight over .

"English verus the American school" were did you come up with that?????Their is no "American school" The two methods of collecting is "English method " and the "European method" this was a big issue in 1890's thru 1910's and debated back then,100 years ago ....paul

Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 12:32:19 PST   Listings
Marty,

did you get around to seeing the Samoa collection in Washington from Sweden that got a Large Gold. I have heard about it and have read a few reviews of the collection but have never seen it,

David B.
Posted by mrsamoa   ( 358 ) on Jan-07-07 at 12:23:59 PST   Listings
Hi to the group. I have a non-stamp question: Outside of eBay, if I log into Microsoft Chat, is it possible to see others who are chatting, if they have a webcam? I'm running XP SP2.

Thanks,

Marty

PS Hi to my old buddies: Keleofa and dbenson. Hope you are having a happy new year.
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-07-07 at 12:13:43 PST   Listings
R


AND THE WINNER IS: JAYWILD

For the below post.

Well done JIM and to all who entered the R

The prize is: Jim to judge S so Jim don't be Silly of Stupid when judging.

It was a shame we never saw any Railway Parcel Stamps put up for show.

Posted by jaywild ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 10:58:53 PST
Listings

R is for Revenue. Here are a few items from my collection.
• R53b, the “b” designation meaning “part perforated”, i.e. the straight edges at top and bottom. These are usually the rarest (although not in this case), the other two types being imperforate and perforated all the way around. This stamps bears what looks like an October 5, 1864 cancel, a serendipitous bonus.
• R63c, with a tidy Customhouse CDS.
• R69a. This stamp was pen canceled, as most early revenue stamps were, on June 30, 1863, when two immense armies were converging on the sleepy Pennsylvania town of Gettysburg.
• R78a, unremarkable except for its lovely color, to me at least.
• R85a, featuring George Washington badly in need of a shave.
• R91a, a mortgage revenue.
• R101c, one of my favorites. A beautiful design, in my opinion.
• R144, 2nd issue revenues, the first of the two-tones, all blue and black.
• R142. The 3rd Revenue issues, same designs as the 2nd issues, got away from the blue and black, this example being orange and black.
• R144, in green and black.
• R146, in claret and black, a very lovely stamp.
• R149, 3rd issue again, green and black.
• R131. The $20 through $50 denominations were only issued in blue and black.
US revenues were implemented to tax a myriad of transactions for the purpose of financing the American Civil War, the Union part anyway, a tremendously costly undertaking, although this means of gathering revenue continued long past the war, and some aspects continue to this day, taxes on cigarettes for instance.
Jim

D1
Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-07-07 at 12:04:15 PST   Listings
David B,

Can't help you there - before my time! :-)

Matt in Arizona
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 11:59:16 PST   Listings
Matt, I was just thinking there may be a link to the popularity of the song " Syncopated Rhythym " which was popular in the mid 1930's and someone in Scott's was humming it whilst thinking of a term to use,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-07-07 at 11:55:20 PST   Listings
Is there a time delay on ebay sending out mail ? I had lots which ended today and not a single ebay mail has arrived.:-(((
Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-07-07 at 11:49:33 PST   Listings
syncopation
One entry found for syncopation.


Main Entry: syn·co·pa·tion
Pronunciation: "si[ng]-k&-'pA-sh&n, "sin-
Function: noun
1 : a temporary displacement of the regular metrical accent in music caused typically by stressing the weak beat
2 : a syncopated rhythm, passage, or dance step
- syn·co·pa·tive /'si[ng]-k&-"pA-tiv, 'sin-/ adjective
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Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-07-07 at 11:48:20 PST   Listings
Hold on - that link didn't work.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-07-07 at 11:47:33 PST   Listings
David B,

American English

Syncopation (in American English) means an interruption in a regular pattern. The term 'Syncopated Perfs' do not seem to refer to the shape of the perfs, just to the break in the regular perf patterns.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 11:37:00 PST   Listings
Matt, thanks, interestingly in 1937 they mention " it is usually called interrupted or syncopated perforations " so that proves that Scott's were using both terms before they decided to only use one.

David B.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-07-07 at 11:33:13 PST   Listings
David B,

Scott 1937

re: Dutch Perfs

Matt in Arizona
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 11:18:49 PST   Listings
Two interesting comments in Paul's reply. The English versus the American School of collecting. This was from the 1870's and is not pertinent to coil perfs. The other is the lemminglike attitude of collectors who accepted Scott's terminology which is normally the other way around. Catalogues use stamp collectors terms and not collectors use a new word which a catalogue introduces,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 11:01:41 PST   Listings
Paul,

you didn't answer the question, what did Scott's call the interrupted perfs. of Holland & Danzig,

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 905 ) on Jan-07-07 at 10:50:55 PST   Listings
S is for Safford, Sahuarita, Saluarita (error), St. Johns, St. Michaels, Sanders, San Luis, Sasabe, Scottsdale, Sedona, Show Low, Sierra Vista, Skull Valley, Snowflake, Solomon, Somerton, Springerville, Stanfield, Sun City, Sun City West and Superior Arizona

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by figmente   ( 872 ) on Jan-07-07 at 10:49:58 PST   Listings
looks like a nice color shift to me.
Posted by peetah   ( 453 ) on Jan-07-07 at 10:40:51 PST   Listings
Any one, especially New Zealand collectors see anything amiss with this New Zealand stamp? Specifically the horizontal band and the white(?) fish.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-07-07 at 10:40:06 PST   Listings
wrd3 My pleasure. The link was intended for djs127.

djs127 Sell it as spurious (title).

iomoon Lon Gisland is better but we used to say Long Guyland because of Fire Island. I thank you!
Phil
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-07-07 at 10:14:59 PST   Listings
Jim_Lawler I do not put that in my regular album, only the forgery album.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 856 ) on Jan-07-07 at 10:05:25 PST   Listings
Yihaa, my first purchase "that other place", and a cheap one too.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1164 ) on Jan-07-07 at 09:55:40 PST   Listings
claghorn1p
I’m LOL!
Still, you’ve got a better copy than I have as my spot for the $5 Colombian is empty. :8^ )

Jim L.
Posted by oggilby   ( 1168 ) on Jan-07-07 at 09:51:56 PST   Listings
Greetings to all from a cooler than yesterday (71 F),now 53 F, Central Maryland!

Paul in Chi Town--please send me your email address (ebay is not co-operating at the moment). Thanks!

smitimns at verizon dot net

Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-07-07 at 09:42:26 PST   Listings
Peter The Spiro St Helena are very crude and obvious. Spiros are also almost always cancelled with distinctive Spiro cancels. THat way they avoided charges of postal fraud.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Jan-07-07 at 09:36:04 PST   Listings
Of course just mentioned St Helena and realised it's an S. So here they are St Helena. I received these as part of an auction lot of Friday so my quick sort with cat number may be incorrect:-)

cheers

Peter
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-07-07 at 09:01:44 PST   Listings
Bill D Thanks for saving all the R's. Looking back I missed seeing a couple for some reason. I know my favourite but thankfully I'm not judge for this week. One hell of a lot of showings on the R's which is always good to see.
Posted by greenwave4u   ( 71 ) on Jan-07-07 at 08:40:13 PST   Listings
Jim Sabah, had to be 5 letters grrrr.

Bill Good reading on spud planting. I received some St Helena in an auction lot this week so off to look more closely:-)

Peter
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-07-07 at 08:26:25 PST   Listings
For what it's worth, here are the "R" entries.

Bill D.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-07-07 at 08:05:11 PST   Listings
Here is an interestng article on Sperati in German as a PDF download.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-07-07 at 07:57:15 PST   Listings
Here are Spud pages for

St. Helena

La Guaira

Brazil

Danish West Indies

Be sure to look at they are interesting.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-07-07 at 07:44:22 PST   Listings
THE SPUD PAPERS; OR, NOTES ON PHILATELIC WEEDS.

BY W. DUDLEY ATLEE.

I.

EVERY science like every grade of society is afflicted with
incubi of some kind, which act upon the pursuit as weeds
do upon the soil of our pleasure-gardens; destroying the
beauty of the scene, and filling the places which should be
occupied by the flowers. It is scarcely to be expected that our own favourite study should be free from the ravages of pests of the weed class; and that such weeds are existent and flourishing, many of our readers know to their cost.
For some time past we have been devoting our energies to the task of rooting out those numerous impostors, which, under the gilded synonym of Fac-similes, have so long been the means of extracting money from the unwary, and we certainly feel an unalloyed joy in knowing that certain remarks of our editor have brought forth the complaint from a dealer in these shams, that his profits have fallen off several pounds monthly since the publication of the expose in question. You cannot appeal to the honesty of men of this class; the only way to reach. them is through their pockets.

There is a growing desire among collectors that the tribe of forgeries should be destroyed "root and branch ;" it will be difficult to accomplish this thoroughly, but it is our intention to do what we can in aid of the " new crusade."

Our publishers, actuated by a laudable desire to contribute their quota of help towards repelling the invaders, have, at a considerable expense, obtained from Messrs. Spiro Brothers, of Hamburg, sheets of their many imitations; and, for the present, it is our intention to confine our remarks solely to the productions of that firm; for although of course numerous other forgeries exist, still few are so finely executed, and therefore so liable to deceive as those emanating from the great house of Spiro Gebruder. We dare say those gentlemen will think our course of action rather like "hoisting the ensign on his own petard," but they must comfort themselves with the precept of the Jesuits, that "the end justifies the means."

We are told to accord what is due, even unto the gentleman with the cloven hoof; so we must perforce do Messrs. Spiro the justice to state that, to the best of our knowledge, their " fancy goods" are not sold by then as genuine, but in a true Mephistophelean manner this firm of wholesale merchants tempt the smaller dealers (who purchase their humbugs) to make rno:ley, by selling their probity for lucre.

We will only quote the hackneyed truism, that "honesty is the best policy," and proceed at once to describe the differences between the genuine and the Spiro-forged stamps of the later issues of the Danubian Principalities.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-07-07 at 07:32:25 PST   Listings
S of course is for Spiro Sperati and Spud papers. The Spiro brothers produced hundreds of different forgeries. The Spud Papers were a series of articles, complete with actual examples of the forgeries, published in The Philatelist

Here are quotes from the compiled reprint by Ragatz:

Appalled at the demoralization confronting the hobby through the wholesale production of counterfeits on all hands, Smith and Atlee in 1871 launched an heroic counter-attack by beginning publication of The Spud Papers in Volume Five of The Philatelist. Both considered forgeries "noxious growths to be eradicated from the collector's gar-den," and the series gained its name from the spud, a long-handled instrument with a steel blade at the bottom end, employed by gardeners in cutting off weeds by their roots. Meticulous descriptions of forgeries were given but, to simplify matters for collectors, actual specimens were used to illustrate each article as was done with sample crests and colored cut-outs mounted in Smith's hobby catalogs and with genuine low-face stamps given readers of The Stamp Collector's Magazine from 1863 to I 874 as well as in early issues of
The Philatelist.

Twenty Spuds, in Volumes Five and Six, were written by Atlee, and he set the form for the entire series —a description of the forgery and then of the genuine stamp, with a copy of the actual forgery to illustrate. Number 21 bears no author's name. Pemberton wrote Numbers 22 through 25 as a stopgap and Earee (no accent until Number 41) then took over, reversing Atlee's procedure by describing the genuine stamp first, and continued the series through Number 63 in the December, 1876, issue of The Philatelist, the last one published. Papers 1 through 11 appear in Volume Five (1871), Papers 12 through 21 in Volume Six (1872), Papers 22 through 31 in Volume Seven (1873), Papers 32 through 42 in Volume Eight (1874), Papers 43 through 53 in Volume Nine (1875) and Papers 54 through 63 in Volume Ten (1876). Three more unnumbered Spuds, known to collectors as Numbers 64, 65 and 66, appeared in Issues 9 (January-March, 1879), 10 (April-June, 1879), and 11 (July-September, 1879) of a later Smith publication, The Philatelic Quarterly, and the final one, known as Number 67, in Smith's Stamp Collector's Annual for 1881.

There were, thus, sixty-seven Spud Papers in all and, today they constitute one of the most highly-cherished items in the reference material field. None arc readily pro-curable at this late date because, while files of The Philatelist are by no means uncommon, most subscribers appear to have removed the forgeries from their magazines as received, ironically enough mounting them in their albums, and most copies of the magazine encountered today have been stripped. The Philatelic Quarterly and the 1881 Annual are themselves rare, and unstripped ones are almost non-existent. Especially scarce are Spuds Numbers 43-53, which appeared in Volume Nine of The Philatelist, the "tough" one in the set, and Numbers 64-67, appearing in the two later publications. U. S. 10c I 847's are common by comparison, and even with a limited market, some of these later ones have brought as much as $25 each. The chief source of sup-ply for Spud, has been the volumes of odd numbers of The Philatelist bound together as Papers for Philatelists, which contain varying numbers of Spuds each, and which appear not to have sold very well, for most literature dealers have had supplies of new copies in their stocks until recent times. None of them, however, contain Spuds Numbers 64-67.

It appears after rather careful check that there are but twelve complete collections of Spud Papers hi existence today, all built slowly through the years, one number here and another there. Because of strip-ping, one Manchester collector found it necessary to purchase eleven sets of The Philatelist before completing Spuds Numbers 1 through 63. Neither the Royal Philatelic Society, London, nor the Collectors Club of New York has a complete set as, typically enough, certain copies of their magazines which originally contained the forgeries have been stripped in both cases.

The Spiros were naturally out-raged at the whole proceeding and refused further to supply Smith, but he experienced no difficulty in securing sufficient copies of the desired counterfeits for his purpose through a dummy. As collectors became aware of the forgeries menace, they developed a more critical attitude in their purchases and, by the late 1870's British and American dealers in general were boycotting both phantasies and forgeries. In the 1880's the movement spread to the more easy-going continent. For this reform, the Spud Papers were primarily responsible and the Spiros, finding that line of their business declining, abandoned the manufacture of facsimiles after some fifteen years of lucrative production.

Because of the constant appearance of these early forgeries, and especially the Spiro products, in collections reaching the market today, it has been deemed desirable to compile an index to the Spud Papers, appending Scott's type and catalog numbers for the stamps, Noske's Weltganzschenkatalog numbers for foreign envelopes and Hurt-Williams type and catalog numbers for the locals, indicating where in the several Smith and Trivet publications the original and pirated descriptive articles and, in the case of the Smith journals, copies of the forgeries themselves may be found for checking purposes.
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Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-07-07 at 06:42:35 PST   Listings
Knuden It is on the link with Eusc under clubs and associations. Here The R winner hasn't been announced yet I don't think.
Posted by knuden   ( 2176 ) on Jan-07-07 at 06:22:20 PST   Listings
Who is the R winner?
When I go to the EUSC's page, via the yellow box, there is nothing written about the A - Z letter competition - how come and where is it??

K.E 
Posted by bjornmu   ( 856 ) on Jan-07-07 at 06:16:35 PST   Listings
S is for Sharjah, one of the "Dune" states. While obviously philatelic, this is at least a genuine 1965 registered cover that did go through the mail. This is confirmed by postmarks on the back. The stamps here also show Sheikh Saqr III ibn Sultan al-Qasimi. Stamps are printed by Harrison and Sons, London (they say so in the margin).
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-07-07 at 06:14:05 PST   Listings
BOB in WA. Scott was looking for a word to describe a pattern that was becoming more popular and that could cover a broad range of patterns and went to the techincal scientific community ,who pulled a word from the music community ,thats how we got SYNCOPATED....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-07-07 at 05:55:17 PST   Listings
SYNCOPATED PERFS Now thats a word that endeared me to many here on this chat board many years ago .

David B.----Welcome to the dark side. To answer your question the early Scott's 1940 catalog doesn't mention the term in the Dutch or Danzig issues.I think it goes back to the 1900's when the U.S. accepted the English method of collecting which was just face different stamps ,which gave us the mentally of fill the holes on album pages . That English method became the mind set for the U.S. catlogs well into the 1970's .

ED845 ----Your correct about calling them elliptical perfs .Elliptical perfs is a type of syncopated perfs ,what i think the catalogs are taken into count is that other countries will be making different patterns than just elliptical designs and wanted a word to cover a broad range of designs for perforations .

......paul

Posted by ed845   ( 4271 ) on Jan-07-07 at 05:23:17 PST   Listings
How is Lon Gisland today Jim?

Posted by ed845   ( 4271 ) on Jan-07-07 at 05:22:18 PST   Listings
This place might interest anyone from New Zealand where they have many sheep so I believe.

http://www.creativepaperwales.co.uk/

Ed
Posted by postalviews   ( 4182 ) on Jan-07-07 at 05:22:11 PST   Listings
Happy New Year to all.

The Rense dot com news web site headline image is showing a linen multiview virtual postcard "Greetings From Camp FEMA".
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-07-07 at 05:19:06 PST   Listings
Good day all.

From a cool Lon Gisland.

S is for Sabyinyo.

Todays crossword clue:

Upset, left English cricket abash (5)!!!
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-07-07 at 04:25:21 PST   Listings
Jim_Lawler here is a Five Dollar Columbian from my collection.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 606 ) on Jan-07-07 at 04:04:53 PST   Listings
Good morning.

Hutch
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-07-07 at 04:02:17 PST   Listings
David B The Dutch translation does indeed refer to coil perforations. I'd always known the ones from Danzig to be called simply interrupted coil perfs.
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-07-07 at 03:52:33 PST   Listings
S stands for SHIGATSE. Here is a letter from SHIGATSE to LHASA (ca. 1920-25), franked with 1 Khakang (1/6 Trangka), the first stamp, of Tibet, canceled, by SHIGATSE Type 11 (Hellrigl T36), in addition Transitpostmark PELTI Type 1 (Hellrigl T6) and PENAM Type 11 (Hellrigl T35).
The inks used for the postmarks on this cover are from ordinary ink to watery ink and shoe polish as used in PELTI (the postmark on the right side of the cover with the “grease marks”…
http://fuchs-online.com/tibet-handbook/postmarks/images/T36.jpg
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1164 ) on Jan-07-07 at 03:38:40 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


Bob in WA
Nice $5 Columbus.
I’d not seen the type of syncopated perfs in your second posting before.


22028
Neat piece.


In keeping with the "S" theme here’s a label from Santa Claus, Indiana with a 1932 Washington Bi-Centennial stamp precanceled with the 713 device.

Jim L.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 03:21:26 PST   Listings
Has anyone got an old Scott's (before 1960) and look up what they called the Dutch or Danzig coil perfs.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 03:13:35 PST   Listings
Verry, Interesting,

On Ebay, Holland there are 18 lots listed under Roltanding with 300 in Stores,

http://search.ebay.nl/ws/search/SaleSearch?sofocus=bs&satitle=roltanding&sacat=260%26catref%3DC5&fbd=1&sspagename=h%3Ah%3Aadvsearch%3ANL&from=R6&nojspr=y&pfid=0&fswc=1&few=&saprclo=&saprchi=&fss=0&saslop=1&sasl=&fls=4%26floc%3D1&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D0&salic=146&saatc=146&sadis=200&fpos=&fsct=&sacur=0&sacqyop=ge&sacqy=&ga10244=10425&saslt=2&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&sabdlo=&sabdhi=&saaff=afdefault&aftd=&afcj=&afmp=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fcl=3&frpp=50

and only 5 lots, all from the same seller (looking for the US market) using the word Syncopated together with Roltanding,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 03:10:09 PST   Listings
All I have to find out now is what " Roltanding " translates to. I presume it means Roll perforations or Coil Perfs, the same as the German.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 03:03:03 PST   Listings
Just answered my own question, found a lot listed in Holland which mentions both terms, the Dutch & Syncopated, presumably to attract the US market,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Netherlands-stamps-Roltanding-Syncopated-R-82-R-85_W0QQitemZ330024678519QQihZ014QQcategoryZ47166QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-07-07 at 02:59:35 PST   Listings
May as well join the throng against using the term " Syncopated ". As far as I know it was never used before Scott's decided to use it. They have always been known as " interrupted perfs ". Michel calls them " Rollenzahnung " which translates to " Roll perfs or for philatelic purposes " Coil perfs. ". I would be interested to learn what the Dutch catalogues call them & I sure it would not be Syncopated,

David Benson
Posted by rclwa   ( 944 ) on Jan-07-07 at 02:26:28 PST   Listings
I agree Ed, elliptical is a better term. It is a different principle than a rhythm pattern of round holes. Don't know why Scott uses the same word as the Netherlands examples. I suppose now they think they're stuck with the precedent and shouldn't change, but I think they should. No argument from me, Scott is in error. Unfortunately, once it's published, it becomes incumbent on anyone interested to be aware of it, so they can follow and understand anyone using the term, wrongly or not. I guess I should have said, here's another place the term is used, but improperly.

Bob in WA
Posted by ed845   ( 4271 ) on Jan-07-07 at 02:09:08 PST   Listings
elliptical perfs

I hope this isn't going to start another war on here but the cut outs as you call them on GB stamps are called elliptical perfs in the UK not syncopated as they appear to be called in the States. Royal Mail say they were introduced in order that stamps could be removed more easily from sheets.

They can be found not only on Machins but on Commemoratives as well, that is if your local Post Office sells them. That is of course, if you have a local post office.
Ed



Posted by rclwa   ( 944 ) on Jan-07-07 at 01:27:03 PST   Listings
S is for SYNCOPATED PERFS! Sometimes you can get lucky and spot an unnoticed one in old kiloware or a stock of singles, as they aren't always as obvious on a single, especially used ones. However, I prefer blocks such as this to display the entire pattern to best advantage. Another place to look for them, where they may have been overlooked, is on COVER. There are different patterns of interrupted spacing of holes, and a few are very cheap, others command considerable premiums. Besides Netherlands, other older ones were found in Danzig, and recently they started showing up, in different patterns but called the same thing, in Great Britain, with little elliptical cutouts appearing at precise intervals in otherwise normal perfs. When self stick becomes universal they will probably be no more.

Bob in WA
Posted by giftsandthrifts2000   ( 235 ) on Jan-07-07 at 01:23:54 PST   Listings
hey got a ques anybody know what happened to the big ticket catagory
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-07-07 at 01:07:40 PST   Listings
S stand for substituted cliché.
Nepal, the famous 1 Anna substituted cliché (upper right stamp in the image) for a 4 Annas stamp, resulting in a color error (Scott 17b, Hellrigl 37c, dark green). The stamp has been placed upside down in the upper right corner position of the printing plate of 64 stamps, thus forming a tete-beche pair with a four Annas stamp.
http://fuchs-online.com/my_ebay/images/13_nepal-hv37c.jpg

And the complete sheet you will see here...
http://fuchs-online.com/my_ebay/images/13_nepal-hv37sheet.jpg

(All items shown are from my own collection..)...
Posted by rclwa   ( 944 ) on Jan-07-07 at 00:53:47 PST   Listings
It's Sunday!

S is for SOCK ON THE NOSE! (From my father's collection.)

Bob in WA
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-06-07 at 22:59:13 PST   Listings
Sunday afternoon bookmark,
got youngest grandaughter staying for 3 weeks, so wont get a chance to read the board as much as usual...LINDA
Posted by malolo   ( 833 ) on Jan-06-07 at 20:47:59 PST   Listings
Just reprot your own post with the links. It is the quickest and most effective means of geting rid of a "bad" post. There is no reason for a link to the site or the auction.

Roger
Posted by psychosick5150   ( 0 )   on Jan-06-07 at 20:13:45 PST   Listings
I didn't enter my password or my user name.
I reported it to ebay prior to posting here...
Don't know if I reported it to the correct place though...
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1164 ) on Jan-06-07 at 19:44:08 PST   Listings
In keeping with the "R" theme here’s a
Revolver ,

a Ringer.

and a Rabbit.

Jim L.
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-06-07 at 19:34:31 PST   Listings
psychosick: If you entered your password on that link, change it PRONTO!! That's if you still can.
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-06-07 at 19:31:00 PST   Listings
Not necessarily the link in itself, but rather the nude picture associated with it. When it's clicked on, the visitor is prompted to enter user ID and password. There are those who will unwittingly fall for it and jeopradise their accounts.
Posted by djs127   ( 535 ) on Jan-06-07 at 19:30:11 PST   Listings
Thanks Bill for your help on the Samoa.
Any ideas what I should do with the stamp now?
I know I DONT want to put it into my scott international album.
I am not supposed to sell it on Ebay right?
I marked the 102 card as a forgery but I am afraid it might get seperated after I am gone and someone will try to sell it as a real stamp?
David Snyder
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-06-07 at 19:28:12 PST   Listings
Report it to e-Bay.
psychosick: Report your post and have it removed immeadiately. The link you posted is an attempt to steal e-Bay passwords from those who link to it.
Posted by psychosick5150   ( 0 )   on Jan-06-07 at 19:14:33 PST   Listings
hi, just wanted to let everyone know about a certain listing that is on the following australia stamp page:

http://stamps.listings.ebay.com/Australia_W0QQfromZR4QQsacatZ3468QQsocmdZListingItemListQQssPageNameZdcpStampsTextNonFeat

it is featured listing the second one down titled "best pussy online"

wanted to know what the heck it was doing in stamps section so i clicked on it so i could ask them if they are really as ignorant as i'm thinking they are....
well i wasn't taken to the listing, i was taken to a page that looked exactly like the ebay sign in page...but the address in my address bar was not an ebay url...
here's a screen shot of the page i'm talking about..click on the FULL SIZE link to the right of the page
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2886372220099987095rLnclQ
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3297 ) on Jan-06-07 at 18:57:29 PST   Listings
Matt feeling stupid, your find was HARDY not GLADYS, I don't have anything from HARDY ... yet ;^)
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3297 ) on Jan-06-07 at 18:46:24 PST   Listings
Matt Re Camp Wallace, I will probably go in for a few hours tomorrow and will check what references I have.

I just checked my GLADYS which I have here at home, it is ca. 1898 on 2c PSE, with printed return of Gladys. Also backstamped UZ another DPO just down the road.

Posted by cwhutch   ( 606 ) on Jan-06-07 at 18:24:25 PST   Listings
Paul - Thanks thats what I needed . You and Alec have been a great help.

Hutch
Posted by malolo   ( 833 ) on Jan-06-07 at 18:21:31 PST   Listings
Here’s a repeat of a post I made a while back concerning “Refusé:
The public’s ability to return unsolicited items to the sender without paying any collect fees. The senders paid the return fee similar to present day Free Business Reply mail. There are variations, but the one’s I’m looking for have the required signature refusing acceptance. Here are three types:

1. 1885 - Sophie Fassnacht was sent a 4 franc bill for some sewing products. For whatever reason she refused to pay the postman (signature the card on the right side) and it was returned to the sender. The card is a 5 centimes postal card with a 10 centimes surcharge for collecting the 4 francs, which didn’t happen.

2. 1906 - International printed matter card from Hannover, Germany, to Aarau. It was short paid at 3 pfennigs (the German domestic fee) instead of 5 pfennigs (international) causing an attempt by the Swiss PO to collect 5 centimes postage due. I guess the addressee saw it was a sales pitch to attend an exhibition and refused to pay the due fee. The lower right has the signature of the postman confirming the “Addressee refused to pay, (signed) Brogli Mailman”. The card went back to the PO where the “Refuse” label was applied and dated. The due stamp was invalidated since no money was collected, and the card returned to Germany.

3. 1910 - The scarcest type is similar to this wrapper sent to a notary Alponse Blanc in Travers. The enclosed material would have been less than 50grams for the 2 centimes postage from Geneva (upper right). The “product” was refused the next day and signed by “A Blanc”. It was returned to the Travers PO where the 2 centimes stamp in the lower left was applied by the PO, and the ”refuse” label applied at the same time. The item was retuned to Geneva where the sender would have paid the return fee to the postman. This is the type of item I’m primarily looking for, or as above as long as they have the signatures.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 833 ) on Jan-06-07 at 18:21:02 PST   Listings
T Hines -
I have not had the login problem. I get to this Board using a bookmark and if I wish to post click on the “Post a Messsage” link and this takes me to the sign in page for “malolo” . My computer automatically inserts my password and I get returned her with an empty message box, into which I post my message. No problem or delays whatsoever.

NOIP -
Re Delcampe site I have bought over 25 item on the site which were nicely presented and the sellers just dedicated as eBay sellers. The material is different, but the repeat listings get real boring to see after a few months, which mean I rarely look more often than monthy. This obviously means I miss stuff! Go to the “International” listings. During the last year since my language of record is Eng;ish the site automatically logs me on to the new English site (American) which has fewer items to view than th eEuropean site.

Talking about Samoa -
A couple of our local all-star high school football team went down to Samoa to play in the Samoa Bowl last week. This is the fourth year a high school team has flown from Hawaii to play Samoan all-stars. The players pay their own air fare, but arre hosted very nicely by the Samoan government with lots of help from host families. There are many Samoan people inhabiting Hawaii so this event is follwed closely. Hawaii won this year making the series even at 2-2.

Roger
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 226 ) on Jan-06-07 at 18:20:45 PST   Listings
any USA "prexies" collectors here?

Some time ago I read about the increasing collecting interest in that series and the rate analysis. I thought it would be interesting to do the same with a definitive Chilean series of 12 stamps (1938-1955 app). Since nobody is interested in them, I've easily picked nice frankings and rates at bargain prices.

I've tried to get solo usages, currently I'm missing 4 values but I'm sure that soon or later I'll get 3 of these (I've seen them earlier). The problem is the lowest value (5c), only 3 rates could be paid with a single stamp: UPAEP newspapers/magazines up to 50g, UPAEP books/music up to 50g and UPAEP newspapers/magazines between 2kg and 3kg (this is a later rate). I'm doubtful if I can really find one of these since the 50g seems too small for a book or newspapers.

Since there isn't an online prexie exhibit, I'd like to know from specialists what should be the focus in a collection of this kind. Solo usages and rates are the main ones, but I guess there must be other ideas to follow.

thanks!
Posted by peetah   ( 453 ) on Jan-06-07 at 18:06:16 PST   Listings
New Zealand Collectors I have a New Zealand booklet Stanley Gibbons SB40 which has 10 SG 1370 Type 416 stamps of the Queen. My question is, is it typical that the stamps are all upside down relative to the booklet cover? Does anyone have a current SG catalog value?
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-06-07 at 18:00:12 PST   Listings
djs127 look at the images and read the checklist. Your stamp looks to me like it is Forgery 2.

prochute I forgot to thank you for posting that linke - I don't have any stamps to sort through, but the website is very well structured to follow and understand how to identify the forgeries.

Bill D.
Posted by djs127   ( 535 ) on Jan-06-07 at 17:57:53 PST   Listings
Bill D. Thanks for putting the link back up. When you mean fail so you are saying it is a forgery rather than a reprint?
David Snyder
Posted by cmarsha   ( 894 ) on Jan-06-07 at 17:53:17 PST   Listings
Don't know if this problem has been addressed in the past- I bought a set of album pages on 110 lb stock recently that had apparently been stored in shrink wrap for some time. Upon opening them there was a very pronounced concave curve to all of them. I have placed them under heavy weight about 50 or so at a time which helps a bit but the pages still look bad. Someone has told me that if I leave them alone they will straighten out in time- any ideas how to hasten the process? Thanks.
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-06-07 at 17:49:37 PST   Listings
djs127 I don't know anything about the Samoa Express stamps, but on Jan 1 prochute provided this link for your reference. If you follow the link checklist from that page it give a step-by-step process to identify forgeries. Your stamp appears to fail step 1 (position of pearls under "M" and "O" and presence or absence of break above "X").

Bill D.
Posted by djs127   ( 535 ) on Jan-06-07 at 17:36:52 PST   Listings
David B. Last week Matt in Arizona wrote me about
Samoa 1879 5sh Yellow Green #82 $425 #130062902812
"These Samoa Express stamps were printed in sheets of 10 (2x5)without perfs along outer edges and therefore singles have one or two straight edges each. I believe you have Forgery # 2, Very Common. Full set sells for $5-$10 You may want to ask David Benson for an opinion"
In the 2006 scott catalog it says"Reprints are of Type IV and are nearly always perforate on all sides. They have a spot of color at the edge of the panel below the M.
I also noticed that Scott numbers 74-100 have been removed. Would this stamp now be a reprint of #8a as it is Yellow Green? Does anyone have a Scott Classic Specialized with more information?
Thanks,
David Snyder
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-06-07 at 17:32:49 PST   Listings
HUTCH and ALEC------Here is the difference in the serif.DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SHORT AND LONG SERIF....paul
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-06-07 at 16:47:06 PST   Listings
Bjornmu: Scroll until you find "Small size notes". 4th paragraph down.
Click here.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 606 ) on Jan-06-07 at 16:11:04 PST   Listings
Alec , No problem and thanks plenty for the scan .

Hutch
Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-06-07 at 16:10:17 PST   Listings
PostalHysteria,

Speaking of Texas, I came across a machine cancel, 'Camp Wallace' Texas, 19 Dec 1941. Although I can find info on the Camp I can't find info on this Post Office.

Do you know of operation dates and so on?

Matt in Arizona
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 16:07:43 PST   Listings
Hutch having trouble just now scanning the book. It is casting shadows but if no one else can scan an image I'll try again tomorrow. It's past midnight here so I must be saying goodnight.
The broad M though I take to be clearly a longer broad serif at the top left of the M. But Commonwealth is not an area I have ever studied so hopefully someone may actually have an example they can show.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 606 ) on Jan-06-07 at 16:03:44 PST   Listings
Thanks Alec
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3297 ) on Jan-06-07 at 16:02:40 PST   Listings
For all you foreigners north of the Red River, the Montague in Texas is pronounced

Mahn-taig.

PO STALHYSTERIA

Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:57:37 PST   Listings
Hutch From SG here is the Broad M Scan of 2004 values to follow.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 606 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:56:03 PST   Listings
Alec-I have a lot that came in today and I was trying to ID them and I have no experiance with the various overprints so I thought it would help if I had a scan of what the long serif looked like.

Hutch
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:50:19 PST   Listings
Hutch what you are trying to describe is the Gibraltar Issues overprinted Morocco Agencies. Listed in SG under Morocco Agencies. I don't have any of those stamps but can scan you the SG page if that would help with some idea of cat values. My copy is from 2004.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 606 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:47:34 PST   Listings
infla-alec - I need a scan to see what it looks like .
Posted by cwhutch   ( 606 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:46:41 PST   Listings
Jeez I give up but just so you know I know its Britain.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:41:54 PST   Listings
Hutch You need a scan to see what the variety looks like or do you need a description ?
Posted by cwhutch   ( 606 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:40:23 PST   Listings
I messed that up lets try again - Great Britan offices in Morocco type of Gibralter 1903-1905 with value in Spanish currency, Overprinted . "M" with and without long serif.

TIA Hutch
Posted by cwhutch   ( 606 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:19:31 PST   Listings
Does anyone have a scan of British offices abroad - Type of Gibralter 1903-1905 with value in Spanish currency, overprint ."M" with and without long serif.

Any help would be of much appreciated.

TIA Hutch
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:14:15 PST   Listings
Does anyone have details of UK postal rates for foreign registered mail 1900-1910 ? If possible can you scan and either e-mail me the rates or show here as a link that I can copy please ?
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:04:34 PST   Listings
See London Letter Receivers 1652-1857 by Hugh Feldman.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-06-07 at 15:00:05 PST   Listings
Terry

I think in most cases it amounts to the same thing, though whether there was a set value of mail throughput or a set number of pieces, I do not know.

I'm going by the postmasters rates for the various London penny and two-penny mail offices.
Posted by thines   ( 1414 ) on Jan-06-07 at 14:32:17 PST   Listings
Io,

By "throughput of mail" do you mean some metric of the amount of mail processed (number of letters, etc.?) or amount of revenue each office took in?

Terry

Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-06-07 at 13:51:15 PST   Listings
Matt in Arizona

I think you'll find Jeff....postalhysteria
lives within walking distance of Hardy.

prochute

OK, I'll use the pronunciation that everyone around here uses, Lon Gisland, as per Jim.
The spelling is perfectly correct, just the words are stuck together.
As happens quite often with my last name.
And I don't give a damn when it happens.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-06-07 at 13:41:18 PST   Listings
iomoon I would have expected a more intelligent answer from you. Using URL's to validate your inane spelling is quite within the range of a childhood thinking.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 13:30:25 PST   Listings
Jaywild / Jim Be careful when you say "anything" as it so happens I need $1,000,000,000 :-) Seriously happy to have been of some help. It is simple things like that which as you know often just get chucked in the bin.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 13:26:13 PST   Listings
Paul No argument as David rightly pointed out we were all looking at different catalogues and came up with three different opinions. I'm happy now though to be a lot more confident in as to what they actually are. Thanks again to all who helped and lets call it AMEN !
Posted by jaywild   ( 905 ) on Jan-06-07 at 13:24:17 PST   Listings
infla-alec… Thanks for the Oct. 5 items which arrived today!! Wow—such a range of origins, and I have been able to plug up one gaping hole.

Anything I can do for you, just ask and it will be yours.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-06-07 at 13:18:28 PST   Listings
Alec & Paul, what that proves is that you cannot rely on using only one catalogue, each has evolved differently and errors & omissions very seldom get corrected or added,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-06-07 at 13:02:16 PST   Listings
INFLA-ALEC------Your right not worth arguement over,but will stay with my original posting ---that what you have is a post office receipt of some kind .....off to watch the playoffs for football
Posted by jaywild   ( 905 ) on Jan-06-07 at 13:01:45 PST   Listings
Actually, everybody is wrong. It is spelled Lon Gisland, certainly pronounced that way, according to the myriad relatives I have scattered along its length.

J

Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:59:35 PST   Listings
Alec & Paul,

looks like Scott's give the answer. It states that they were used on PO receipts. That would explain why they are cancelled Kabul and the Persian script states that they were sent from Kabul to Herat. They are not the actual registered items that travelled from Kabul to Herat but the PO receipts for the items,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:55:48 PST   Listings
Paul Thanks also though to me the Scotts don't give enough detail either. Registration stamps I'm sure about it's just the are they dated copies or not issue which has me beat. Anyway I consider the subject closed now and anyone wishing to discuss it further it'd be less boring for others if contact was made via e-mail.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:52:37 PST   Listings
Alec, I had a look at your closeup scan and it does appear to be the unissued Registration stamp.

Gibbons note

" Undated Registration stamps were prepared in 1898 but not issued & used copies were made by favour. They were Black on various coloured papers ".

The item should be inspected by a specialist Afghan collector. I will try to find out the email address of one of the specialists,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:51:38 PST   Listings
David B I understand what you are saying but even when I compare the second value (?) I have I still don't see any date. I did manage to get a very old copy of the SG Part 16 (1992)and to be honest I'm having difficulty identifying anything from their illustrations. I don't want to clog the board on this subject so I will just thank you for your efforts which are greatly appreciated and simply put the items away in a box for to be sorted and listed / exchanged one day. Such box's seem to be getting larger and larger with every sort out I do. Never the less I am enjoying the sort outs. Just so damn annoying at times with the unknowns.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 856 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:49:44 PST   Listings
Matt, yes I thought (from my Scott) it had to be 1975. If not, I could have had some Real Money included in my collection! :-)
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:45:06 PST   Listings
INFLA-ALEC-------Here is a scan from Scott's catalog . . CATALOG SCAN.....paul
Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:44:02 PST   Listings
Bjornmu,

Sorry:

Scott 1622=15 Nov 1975

Matt in Arizona

Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:41:25 PST   Listings
Bjornmu,

Scott 1322=15 Nov 1975

Matt in Arizona
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1968 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:37:56 PST   Listings
Matt: in my experience, it's pretty much always a safe bet that if it isn't online on the Doane site, it's new. Most if not all of the coordinators do a very good job keeping up to date.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:35:47 PST   Listings
Alec, try to get Gibbons Part 16 Central Asia, that shows the variances in the designs very well. They are definitely the ordinary postage stamps of 1892.

David B.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 856 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:34:47 PST   Listings
Quick question: what's the date of issue of US Scott #1622 (13c Flag, Independence Hall)?
Posted by bjornmu   ( 856 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:27:36 PST   Listings
Alternative venues: yes, I finally joined that "Belgian site" too and found a few interesting items. Dang, why haven't I done so before? With the lower fees, it looks better for cheap items which aren't going to catch more that $1-2. Good, since I have lots of these piled up. :-)

Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:15:29 PST   Listings
Here is more Afghanistan 1880_90 and 1891_2

Mitch: Just wait until we get to T for Tiger Heads
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:15:12 PST   Listings
David B I don't have scans of the SG pages for Afghan but Rainer very kindly sent me copies of the relevant Michel. From their illustrtaions I would say that the two copies i have certainly Registration stamps & are from the 1898 series and not the 1892. To try and explain hopefully the following scans will enable you and others to see what I mean.
Firstly the Michel pages (large files sorry) 1892 issue with year date in upper right corner of the stamps.
Secondly Michel pages 1898 issue without year date. Now when I look at My example I don't see any date which draws me to the conclusion of it being 1898 issue. Have I missed something or are SG and Michel stating two different things ?
Posted by bjornmu   ( 856 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:08:59 PST   Listings
tomorrow, your stamp would be the 75C from the set iomoon linked to. If in mint condition (i.e. it has undisturbed original gum on the back), then the catalogue value (from Michel 2004) is 20 or 220 Euros, depending on the perforation. 20 for perf 14, and 220 for perf 12. If you're not familair with such numbers, they refer to the number of "teeth" per 20mm.

Were you thinking of selling it, or were you just interested in knowing more about it? If the first, you should know that stamps usually sell for much less than the listed catalogue value, and condition is important (centering, "teeth" etc.).

The set of 7 stamps were issued on March 9, 1931 and printed in 127,000 copies each.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-06-07 at 12:06:56 PST   Listings
As Afghanistan is one of my favorites I had to find something RED to fit into the topic. Enjoy
Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-06-07 at 11:50:32 PST   Listings
Matt (Paperhistory),

re: Hardy, TX

Thanks! I have the Helbock & Anderson book and did reference the website. Normally when I think I have a new discovery or a million dollar stamp a little more research disproves it!

I'll have to email Jack Smith to update the list.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by paperhistory   ( 1968 ) on Jan-06-07 at 11:44:12 PST   Listings
Matt (in AZ): good work. You have a new one (see here, there is a link for the state coordinator, send him a scan. PO is Montague County, 1880-1916. Now go find me a new Ohio Doane! :)

Doanes are one of those areas where it's still possible to make new discoveries inexpensively, and good up-to-date ONLINE literature.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-06-07 at 11:14:17 PST   Listings
Alec,

they are the 1310 (1892)issue (s.g. 147-152) and are more common used than mint. The unissued series dated 1316 are not known genuinely used.

David B.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-06-07 at 11:13:13 PST   Listings
prochute

If you are so touchy about it, why not try to get www.longisland.com to change the url of their website, likewise the the NZ version.
Posted by keleofa   ( 3328 ) on Jan-06-07 at 11:11:11 PST   Listings
US Postal History,

Hardy, Texas 1909

I found this postcard at an antique mall today. Doane cancel, Type 2, Number 2, 12 June 1909. I can't find Hardy, Texas listed in my Doane reference or on line. Anyone have information on this cancel?

TIA,

Matt in Arizona
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-06-07 at 10:54:12 PST   Listings
iomoon I find Longisland rather disrespectful. It is spelled Long Island. Can you please spell it correctly or not at all? Thank you.
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-06-07 at 10:53:09 PST   Listings
Thanks Jim. I'll definitely check into it.
CJ
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-06-07 at 10:11:43 PST   Listings
tommorrow

I s your stamp one of these (click on blue word).

Terry

No idea, but postmasters were paid on a sliding scale according to throughput of mail.
Posted by thines   ( 1414 ) on Jan-06-07 at 10:10:55 PST   Listings
On a totally different point:

Over a year ago we started getting an "input error" message when one tried to log onto this, or any other, Ebay board. I, and I assume others, now log on via a link. But over the past year I've tried to log on the old way from numerous computers. And every time I've gotten the "input error" message. So, how dumb is ebay not to have corrected this? And, how does anyomne new ever get to this board???

Terry Hines

Posted by thines   ( 1414 ) on Jan-06-07 at 10:07:10 PST   Listings
Does anyone here know if the Royal Mail has an historian and who that person might be? I have a question regarding local postmaster compensation in Britain in the 19th century that such a person might be able to answer.

Thanks,

Tery Hines

Posted by tomorrow1936   ( 1 ) on Jan-06-07 at 10:02:08 PST   Listings
Bear with me as I have never before been in a chat room and am a bit technically challenged. My father recently gave me a stamp that I really don't know what to do with. the date on it is 1931 and he said it was a commerative stamp of the death of saint anthony. It has never been mailed. One one side ith has the words VII Centenario Antoniano:1231 Poste Italiane:75 and there are 4 men standing over a man who is apparently dead.I could post a picture but have no idea how to hook my digital up to the computer sorry!! Can anyone help.
Posted by knuden   ( 2176 ) on Jan-06-07 at 08:28:16 PST   Listings
Thank you all for the greetings. :O)

I have just recieved this die proof. Nice details. (it's scanned in 200%)

K.E 
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-06-07 at 06:57:54 PST   Listings
darn blew the last page---here it is again ---LAST PAGE ,third page ....paul
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-06-07 at 06:53:43 PST   Listings
SAKET B. -----Here is a more detail information : PAGE 1 EXHIBITIONS ....PAGE 2 ..........hope this helps .....paul
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-06-07 at 06:17:04 PST   Listings
Good day all.

From a damp but warmish Longisland.

R is for Rishiri-Rebun Quasi National Park.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-06-07 at 06:09:48 PST   Listings
SAKET B. Welcome to the chat room .Please show more of your interest here .

About the subject of starting and planing on a stamp exhibition there are a few things you need to decide before you go further. First you need to define what your interest are, is it worldwide flowers,native flowers to certain countries or only South Asia .Second you need to decide what story your trying to tell .That breaks down to a story line with a introduction ,body,and a ending so people can see and learn something . Also if your going into competive judging your going to have to show a high degree of completeness of the subject .

Looking at your purchases it looks like you just started ,so plan on a period of finding and buying material for your exhbit this could take years ,also don't forget to build a good reference libary and techical books on the subject .......BEST OF LUCK ....paul

Posted by saketb   ( 3 ) on Jan-06-07 at 05:51:50 PST   Listings
Thank u Mr. Jim. It is quite helpful.

And for the 'R' theme here's a stamp issued in India in 2004 on Mr. Radhanath Sikdar. He marked the beginning of the Great Trigonometrical Survey (GTS) in India.

Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 05:51:05 PST   Listings
Saket Welcome to the stamp board. To others to give opinions on how you might improve your exhibit it would be a good idea if you could post a few scans as a link to what you already have written up.
At what level is your exhibit being shown ? i.e. National, State, local ?
Here you will receive help and advice from many experienced collectors, exhibitors, and even the odd philatelic judge or two.
So please do try tomake a few scans and show what you have so far and I'm sure you can be helped. Remember also please to post the scans a link and not here directly as an image. Many here do not have flat rate internet access and so image posts can take a long while to download.

David B Must admit I also feel certain the Afghan pieces are genuine yet my concern would be in that no prices are given in Michel for genuine used examples. I'm not saying those I have are rare or anything but I have this thing about not wanting to sell material, "as is" so to speak. I'm reluctant to just list and see what happens. I'll consider the matter further and maybe see if I can get in touch with some specialist collector or society.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1163 ) on Jan-06-07 at 05:26:23 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


coinjester
Many libraries put last years set on the shelves to circulate. Ask the librarian is your local library does that. You might also check to see what they do with the “old” volumes. Sometimes you can find them deaccessioned at the library book sales. Even if the volumes are a few years out of date they can help you a lot. You can always go back to the library with a list to check current values, if that’s a concern.


Saket Bajaj.
You might post a link to some pages you’ve worked up. Instructions on how to do this can be found in the “Yellow Boxes” posted here regularly. If the language is not English you might also provide a translation, if possible.


In keeping with the "R" theme here’s a Religous text on Kokomo Stamp Club card 26-04.

Jim L.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-06-07 at 04:44:57 PST   Listings
Alec,

I am 100% sure the stamps and usages are genuine, the stamps are the normal 1892 issue (dated 1310) with the usual poor printing makes the date hard to decipher,

David B.
Posted by philaweb   ( 185 ) on Jan-06-07 at 04:11:08 PST   Listings
BTW... Today is Epiphany, which is a national holiday in Sweden. In our home this day also concludes the period of having a Christmas tree indoors.
Posted by philaweb   ( 185 ) on Jan-06-07 at 04:06:04 PST   Listings
Re:Alternative Venues. Just to add my last 2 cents on this topic. Delcampe is a great outlet for either hardcore philately with very few collectors or single stamps for the picking at a few cents. I still prefer eBay when it comes to items of scarcity and greater interest amongst collectors.
Posted by saketb   ( 3 ) on Jan-06-07 at 03:15:24 PST   Listings
Hi Everyone, I am Saket Bajaj from Bangalore, India. I collect on Flowers and am trying to put an exhibit here in Bangalore. As this one is my first exhibit, I want it to be the best among all, so if you people can help me by providing your valuable comments, links, ideas etc on preparing the exhibits it will be greatful.

Thanks in advance.

Saket Bajaj.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 605 ) on Jan-06-07 at 03:13:14 PST   Listings
Good morning.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Knuden.

uppercanadian - Thanks for the explanation.

Hutch
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Jan-06-07 at 02:10:46 PST   Listings
Alec - Thanks! Here's another illustration of the Roast Missionary stamp, as part of an educational philatelic cartoon published in Scott's Stamp Monthly over 10 years ago.

S2
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 01:40:41 PST   Listings
Sheryll Great to see you using imagination for making that last post fit into the "R" theme for the week.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-06-07 at 01:36:01 PST   Listings
Sarah/psycho Most of the cards you queried about have parcel connections. Either stating what is on the way to someone via a parcel or acknowledging an order. The script is very difficult to decipher but I hope the information is of some help to you.

David B Thanks for the Afghan update. The help is very much appreciated. Question remains are the cancels and usage genuine ? The number of Afghan specialists I would imagine to be very small and unfortunately I don't know any.


Brad/uppercanadian I finally received your e-mail via ebay and will respond this weekend.
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Jan-06-07 at 00:58:14 PST   Listings
Ooops! Nearly forgot.....

R is also for the Roast Missionary stamp (Presbyter Cocidus), which was concocted back in 1903, before New Hebrides became a Condominium.

Only one genuine copy of this stamp (which was never issued, of course) has been recorded.

S2
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Jan-06-07 at 00:27:33 PST   Listings
Many happy returns, Knud-Erik!

Paolo - Greetings! How are things?

S2
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Jan-05-07 at 22:49:02 PST   Listings
Some thematic exhibits can be found on Tom Fortunato's website.

R is for a Frenchman, a M. Roy, the first postmaster of New Hebrides when it became a Condominium.

We NHWC's (New Hebrides Website Collaborators) spent years trying to determine the owner of this stylish handwriting on various covers in our collections and at auction houses, before finding out for sure. This relegates nearly all the covers sporting it as having been sent to collectors (don't tell the judges that, though, becasue they look so sexy in an exhibit.....).

S2
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-05-07 at 22:27:06 PST   Listings
R for Revenue

Western Australia 8 frame Revenue Exhibit

http://www.revenuesociety.org.uk/invited-displays/wa/frame1.html

D1
Posted by rayman21k   ( 275 ) on Jan-05-07 at 21:33:11 PST   Listings
You have got to be hard up for sales to do this 180071879626 . Can this lister read a catalog?
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-05-07 at 21:28:31 PST   Listings
UPPERCANADIAN----Iomoon has a excellent website with topicals and the APS has a booklet out about building a topical collection .
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-05-07 at 21:18:46 PST   Listings
Oh yes, Brad Topicals are very popular exhibits. most amazing I have seen were one on Elephants and one entitled WHISKERS, all about Beards, both won Gold medals I believe. Sure someone will link you to some exhibits, sorry I dont know of any on-line.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 20:59:15 PST   Listings
Well, that is two incredible stamp exhibits I have seen today. Many thanks to both Roher and Richard.

Do people exhibit topical collections?? Are there any examples on the web so I could have a look see? I am rather interested in how they would be put together.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-05-07 at 20:29:37 PST   Listings
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Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-05-07 at 19:50:44 PST   Listings
Peetah Tasmania is under STAMPS - AUSTRALIA - AUSTRALIAN STATES
time of day, ? I couldn't really say, but currently while it is 7.45pm in PST time, on Friday night, it is 2.45pm on Saturday afternoon in Eastern Australia. Tasmania may be an hour different, not sure, think they dont recognise Summer Time...
Linda
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-05-07 at 19:43:04 PST   Listings
Wrd3: Thanks for the tip. I have gone to the library in the past to research stamps. The only problem with that is you aren't allowed to check out the reference books and take them home with you... as such is the case with my local library. One has to do his/her researching while there. I myself like to do my researching at home in a familiar and relaxed environment. Not meaning to say that the library isn't relaxing, but it just isn't the same as it is at home.
My main gig is coins. I have however, fancied an interest in stamps since I was a little boy. I still have my first Whitman stamp collecting book from the '60's. I received it from my Father as a birthday gift. As a kid, I soon lost interest in the stamps (imagine that) and focused my attention on coins. After all, from a kids perspective, stamps just don't jingle in your pocket like coins do.
The stamps and covers I recently acquired from range from the later part of the 1800's through the 1950's.
I'll check into the reference you suggested.
Thanks again,
CJ
Posted by peetah   ( 453 ) on Jan-05-07 at 19:32:19 PST   Listings
NOIP What is the consensus of the best place (on US board) to list a stamp of Tasmania Van Diemen's Land? And the best time of day to get the greatest number of tire kickers for such a stamp?
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-05-07 at 19:07:59 PST   Listings
psycho, there are a mixture of countries, Germany, Norway, Netherlands & Netherlands Indies.

David B.
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-05-07 at 19:04:39 PST   Listings
annealvareaolgal I think you mean selvedge, the paper around the block of Grizzly Bear stamps shown in the linked page.

malolo I always assume early Swiss to be fake as well, and frankly am not interested in collecting them, as they are way out of my budget. Just curious about these, that's all. Thanks.

Bill D.
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-05-07 at 19:03:22 PST   Listings
Roher?? What the geck! Hey the keys are right next to each other!

annealvareaolgal -
Selvage
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-05-07 at 19:01:45 PST   Listings
Bill D -
Can't help with the other Swiss. I may be wrong, but I always assume early Swiss to be fake unless they have a certificate. Not sure any literature would be of help as direct comparison with an original is the only method. Most stamps of those issues were printed with many individual variations within the designs meaning one has to be able to plate the print (stamp) to verify its position, thus genuiness.

Knuden - HAPPY BIRTHDAY WITH ALOHA!

I would be remiss if I didn't participate this week and link to my RAZOR CANCEL exhibits. 128 pages by post office and 64 pages by timeline for those of you who don't like a long story! )'>)
I will have to wait until later this year to revise and add some very interesting material which will increase rarity, etc. I just don't have time to do it over the winter.

Roher



Posted by annealvareaolgal   ( 1051 ) on Jan-05-07 at 18:58:36 PST   Listings
what do you call the extra white paper on a stamp under or next to the perforations still connected to it
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-05-07 at 18:42:10 PST   Listings
coinjester depending on the dates of your stamps, perhaps "the best" purchase would be the single volume Classic Specialized. In one volume you get world-wide coverage 1840-1940. Your Cuba stamp wouldn't be covered .... since it's post-1940, but if many of your stamps are earlier than 1940 this one volume would be a (relatively) inexpensive way to get world-wide coverage.

In the past posters have suggested going to your local library and checking on the Scott catalogues .... I've not seen the catalogues in my local library, so I'm not sure that's a good path. Alternatively you could watch eBay for auctions of somewhat older catalogues ..... if you don't care what the up-to-date catalogue value is they work just as well (my set is from 2001).

Please keep coming back with questions. I don't think anyone minds looking up information for others, and you will learn a lot in a quick time from the experts on the board.

Bill D.
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-05-07 at 18:22:11 PST   Listings
be be=be
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-05-07 at 18:20:13 PST   Listings
Wrd3: Please bear with me. Although, I am sporting my "Rookie" badge rather proudly.
(o:
Looks as if I'm going to have to open the ol' wallet and purchase a few of those world volumes.
Gramps passed away 2 months before I was born in 1960. He'd be be 99 yrs old if he was still alive. My 76 yr old Father passed his entire collection on to me now. Scads of US and World stamps to go through. It'll definitely keep me busy... for a long time.
Fascinating hobby as well as tons of fun.
Thanks for being patient.
Posted by psychosick5150   ( 0 )   on Jan-05-07 at 18:14:15 PST   Listings
translator....sorry
:)
sarah
Posted by psychosick5150   ( 0 )   on Jan-05-07 at 18:12:08 PST   Listings
Hi All,
I am wondering if anybody can read/translate some postal cards from Holland?
I think it's Dutch could be wrong...quite curious as to what they say...
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/556681515SKAebm
pictures 9 & up

or maybe tell me where to go on the ebay community page to find a translater?

thank you
sarah
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1163 ) on Jan-05-07 at 17:56:48 PST   Listings
Knuden Let me add my “Happy Birthday” wishes also.

In keeping with the "R" theme here’s a Riverboat click here .

Jim L.

Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-05-07 at 17:50:15 PST   Listings
coinjester yes, you need the C-F volume. In the US catalog Cuba is only represented for 1898-1902. From the introduction of that section of the US catalog, it states "The listings in this catalogue cover the U.S. Administration issue of 1899, the Republic's 1899-1902 issues under U.S. military rule and the Puerto Principe issue of provincial provisionals." So the catalog coverage stops well before 1947.

Bill D.
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-05-07 at 17:38:48 PST   Listings
Thanks for the info Stamps12345 and Wrd3. I'm looking under US possessions-Cuba in the 2005 Scott's Catalogue of United States Stamps and Covers. Cuba is listed on page 745. Still can't find it. Either I'm looking in the wrong book or I'm going blind. I think I need the World Catalogue instead.
/o;
Posted by stamphick!   ( 333 ) on Jan-05-07 at 17:30:36 PST   Listings
uppercanadian...Crossing the isle is well known in US politics too. Not long ago our congress was turned upside down by such an occurrence.
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-05-07 at 17:17:50 PST   Listings
coinjester try Cuba Scott number 406, issued April 12, 1947. It's in my 2001 catalog.

Bill D.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-05-07 at 17:17:28 PST   Listings
try cuba 406
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-05-07 at 17:13:13 PST   Listings
I'm pulling my hair out trying to find this in the 2005 Scott catalogue. Checked under Cuba, notta... It belonged to Gramps (rip).
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-05-07 at 17:00:50 PST   Listings
malolo and claghorn1p thank you for the feedback on the Swiss stamps I linked earlier. Do you have any recommendations for literature I can find relative to the other stamps in that group?

sayasan as mini*lindy said, there have been a lot of great "R" entries this week. I'm glad I judged the "Q" entries rather than "R". For what it's worth, I've saved the "R" entries ... assuming I haven't missed any, the "R" entries to date are here

Bill D.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-05-07 at 16:18:59 PST   Listings
Alec,

eventually got an answer about the 2 Afghan covers. They are both cancelled Kabul and addressed to a Mullah in Herat. They are written in Persian which was the reason it took a long time as my friend sent the scans to an Afghan friend who lives in Germany as he can read the Persian script.

David B.
Posted by oggilby   ( 1167 ) on Jan-05-07 at 16:11:38 PST   Listings
knuden--Happy Birthday, mate! (probably into Saturday by now!) How's you winter? probably as warm as ours acrosss the pond.
Posted by oggilby   ( 1167 ) on Jan-05-07 at 15:55:10 PST   Listings
paul in chi--please send me your email address (ebay is not co-operating at the moment). Thanks!

smitimns at verizon dot net
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-05-07 at 15:32:41 PST   Listings
breffington, it takes me under 2 minutes to scan and list although sometimes I have to do research which takes time. Packing time has been cut down as I now use an Avery Label writer and I just copy and paste from Paypal details or emailed addresses.

David B.
Posted by breffington   ( 335 ) on Jan-05-07 at 15:22:52 PST   Listings
I'm puzzled. If the hobby is graying who is buying the stamps more and more sellers are advertising like crazy to buy? Better material goes to the baby boomers but who is buying the 'floor sweepings' and box lots other than the dealers? On another topic if it takes 15-30 minutes to scan write up and find the right category for a stamp and then sell it for $5 how in God's name are people making money? Even if the cost of the lot wholesale for the seller was .20 when you factor in the time to put the lot on ebay and then pack and mail it how can you make money?Frank
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 15:22:06 PST   Listings
year = years
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 15:21:38 PST   Listings
Does anyone have a special item that they know they still own, but just can't find. I have this great air crash cover from a Trans-Canada air crash in the 1930's. The cover was partially burnt, but had been repackaged by Canada Post and sent on to the consignee.

I haven't seen it in year. I know I would never sell it, but I can't find the damn thing!!!
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 15:18:51 PST   Listings
Alec

Thank you for your very kind offer. I have emailed you my address. As I stated in that email, I hope to be able to return the favour in the near future. I recently purchased a 1981 Michel Deutschland-Spezial Katalog and intend on slogging through some 10,000 early German stamps I have lying around here. I may be asking some questions on this board in the future, as my German translation abilities are 100% reliant on Babblefish.

Hutch

The term was used in 19th century Canada to refer to sub-divisions of counties.

In Canadian politics, a "riding" is a colloquial term for a constituency or electoral district. Officially, "electoral district" is generally used, although government documents sometimes use the colloquial term. There are currently 308 ridings in Canada, although that number and the boundaries change based on changes in demographics. Currently the Canadian Federal Parliament has 125 Conservatives, 101 Liberals, 51 Bloc Quebecois, 29 NDP and 2 Independents.

The strange thing about the Khan episode is that as a sitting Liberal, he volunteered to work as a special envoy for Middle East affairs. Khan immigrated to Canada in 1974 from Pakistan. He is a practicing Moslem and was a fighter pilot in the Pakistani military. He felt that although he was part of the Loyal Opposition, that with his background, he could help Canadian policy, partularly as there were 3000 Canadian troops on their way to Afghanistan at the time. The new Liberal leader, Stephen Dion, apparently didn't like Khan working with the Conservative Government, and asked him to make a choice. In the end, I think he will be more comfortable on the Conservative side, although I think there is a good chance that this year the Liberals will win the next election and Khan could lose his seat as well. As much as some moan over elected officials changing their Party affiliation, in Khan's case I think it was pretty brave and honest of him - and I never even liked the guy.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-05-07 at 15:02:50 PST   Listings
Bill D Correct on the point about no business, ie linking to peoples own running auctions. I don't think anyone has done that & all participants since the begining have shown items in the way it was intended.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-05-07 at 14:57:05 PST   Listings
Phil Anyone can show anything they like even if it is not something they own. So please do show. The whole idea is intended to get people showing things no matter what it is or how rare or common. Especially those that have never shown anything before. It is philately and that is all that matters. The weekly letter show is pure and simple just fun.
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-05-07 at 14:56:00 PST   Listings
prochute you only quoted part of infla-alec's post. He said "It is only a fun way to show others what you collect or like". And in reality you can post whatever you want relative to the letter of the week ... something you collect, something you like, something you hate, something you find interesting, something you find amusing, etc. As long as it meets the standards of the board (ie, no business, no meets the "community values", etc) it's fair game.

Bill D.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-05-07 at 14:52:26 PST   Listings
Brad It is indeed a small world. I'm reluctant to list that Levant card simply because of the bad crease on the front. Therefore please e-mail me your shipping address and you can have it. Yes a freebie. It has more historical value to you & a few $ even if listed are not everything.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-05-07 at 14:51:54 PST   Listings
PROCHUTE------There is always a cast of characters at all the auctions .Maybe its the intensity of the need to buy cheap and make a profit that keeps some on edge .

Do agree that collection lots weather its a huge 20 box lot or just a single page collection seems to generally sell well on e-bay .Yesterdays auctions by DR. BOB on e-bay show that nice collections sell well and the prices do climb going into the final minutes ,i got push out on two lots.

Posted by cwhutch   ( 605 ) on Jan-05-07 at 14:47:41 PST   Listings
uppercanadian - Would you mind interpeting that last post.Crossing the aisle I understand but federal riding has really lost me .

Hutch
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-05-07 at 14:42:55 PST   Listings
infla-alecYou wrote regarding the current "R's" being shown: "It is only a fun way to show others what you collect."

Questions. Can someone show what they may be interested in but do not happen to collect (costly, rare, etc.)? Or it that "prohibited" here?

Phil
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 14:42:10 PST   Listings
Richard,

What a beautiful exhibit. I have always wanted to try and put together an exhibit, but never had. I have always been intimidated by the quality and knowledge of exhibitors. You have not helped my phobia one bit - thanks!!! 8^)

Truly stunning!! I hope you don't mind if I download the pictures so I can use it for inspiration in the future.

Brad
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-05-07 at 14:37:38 PST   Listings
SOGGY 333 and 22025/Rainer -----Thanks for the info ,here are two pages from those "DECLARE VALUE " issue . From my collection "DECLARE VALUE issue "....paul
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 14:34:41 PST   Listings
Infla-Alec,

That Levant cover is very cool - and of particular interest to me. I used to live at that address (120 Johnston St., Kingston)!! It is a very old house.

Jim

Then we are in agreement. I actually like the stamp as well. I often prefer the minimalist approach to stamp design. On of my Canadian favourites is this happy but now dangerously at risk of extinction Polar Bear

NOIP

Well, there is a lot of hub-bub in my Federal Riding of Mississauga-Streetsville today. Although fairly common in most Westminster Parliamentary systems, "crossing the floor", is probably foreign to citizens of the US. Wajid Khan was elected for our riding under the banner of the Liberal Party. Today, he "crossed the floor" and is now sitting with the government under the Conservative Party banner, thus giving the minority government one more seat. It is quite crucial, because now if the government can win support of the NDP (the left-wing party), they can pass any legislation, and the opposition Liberals and Bloc Quebecois cannot stop it. I think this happens more often in the UK, Australia and New Zealand, but due to the proximity of the US to Canada, and thus American notions of democracy and government, 'floor crossings' have become a relatively rare occurence here. Many of the people in our riding are fuming mad. Personally, I think Khan was always more of a conservative at heart anyway. He voted against same-sex marriage and is very hawkish when it comes to the Middle East and the 'War on Terror'. We will see how things work out though, as I am expecting the minority Conservative government to fall sometime in late February or early March when they have to pass a new budget.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-05-07 at 13:27:47 PST   Listings
Richard nice! Vic has some he made for himself too. he was born and grew up in Putney, only came to Australia in 1979. One sister still lives there, others retired to the Sth.Coast. He has a lovely collection of Putney Postal History which he has exhibited, and hundreds of putney postcards (again, some were exhibited). WE also collect a variety of Putney memorabillia, and around the shows in the UK he used to be known as Mr.Putney by many dealers!!
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-05-07 at 13:22:07 PST   Listings
Richard F Simply outstanding. Lovely exhibit & thanks for sharing it with us.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-05-07 at 13:16:14 PST   Listings
Ed

Thanks for the article.
Not very substantive, but maybe it will help out sales of my volcano catalog!!
Posted by sayasan   ( 539 ) on Jan-05-07 at 13:12:49 PST   Listings
Linda - nice post card. My father was assistant manager at Lloyd's Bank, Putney branch, at one point. (Hope he never refused your husband an overdraft ...)

Sometimes at work he used to mail himself neatly typed plain fdc's, which of course no-one collects these days ...

Posted by 1covers   ( 1265 ) on Jan-05-07 at 13:10:01 PST   Listings
RF collection here.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-05-07 at 13:06:30 PST   Listings
Whilst in a questioning mode is a British Levant PC - Canada anything better ? The card itself has a bad crease on the face side but so far as I can tell does not affect the stamp.
Posted by jaywild   ( 905 ) on Jan-05-07 at 13:01:19 PST   Listings
uppercanadian… No, I was being serious. The design was taken from a photograph of a Red Cross station in some war zone, and with the sun behind the flag it is very striking.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:59:56 PST   Listings
Knuden Happy Birthday wishes from me also.
Sayasan Yes the R's have been posted in plenty this week and some excellent showings also I may add. Still time for others to show something. Nothing difficult about it. No need to tell a story or worry about someone ridiculing your showing. It is only a fun way to show others what you collect or like.If you need help uploading or anything just e-mail me. I'll do my best to help if I can.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:54:00 PST   Listings
Sorry the link for below is Windsor Castle
Posted by infla-alec   ( 494 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:52:31 PST   Listings
Bjorn Thanks for acknowledging safe receipt.

Can anyone explain please this < a href=http://usera.imagecave.com/Insel-Alec/GB-01/R022.jpg>Windsor Castle cover cancelled Official Paid on Dec 31 1901 but then franked with pair of the 2½d GB KE VII stamps. The cancel date 1.1.02. was the First day of Issue for the stamp. The P in the lower left corner is the mark for the Earl of Pembrooke who was at this time the Lord Chamberlain.(Henry Howard?)
I would like to know why the cover has official paid and then a day later have stamps applied ? Does it qualify as a FDC ? Any other information would be much appreciated.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:49:52 PST   Listings
bold Richard we have had some wonderful R's this week.. but board is scrolling faster than Usual.

OK, David B. wont say a word about the CRICKET, it would to too cruel to tell everyone that it was a 5-0 whitewash.. Yes, Australia managed to win back the Ashes with not just 3/2 or 4/1 but a whopping 5/0. But we wont mention it... ok!! :o)

My Putney born husband has suddenly remembered he's been in Australia for 28 years, and is claiming to be an Aussie all of a sudden!!!


R is for Roehampton, a Hamlet of Putney, a nice Registered Letter from 1905 giving us a triple R Roehampton Registered from Mr.Rittner.

Roehampton is a lovley little village and this 1905 postcard shows the local Postman standing in front of the water fountain.



Linda

Posted by sayasan   ( 539 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:39:27 PST   Listings
Soddit. Excuse the bold.
Posted by sayasan   ( 539 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:38:46 PST   Listings
Where have the R's gone? Or am in the wrong week? Anyway, R is for revenues used for postage in modern Myanmar. Not legally, that is, but examples like these quite often get by without postage due being charged. The favourite for mis-use is this little 50p revenue stamp showing a chinthe (mythical lion king), mostly used on receipts etc.

Top cover is internal. The lower one made it all the way from Yangon to the USA without postage due being charged.

On, a separate topic, David B, just don't mention it ... alright?

Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:37:20 PST   Listings
K-E
It seems you and my B-I-L share the same day.

Happy Birthday!!
Posted by ed845   ( 4269 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:33:27 PST   Listings
iomoon
Thanks Jim.

Sent!

Ed
Posted by knuden   ( 2176 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:31:10 PST   Listings
22028 - correct - one more year gone. :O)

bjornmu - Thanks. :O)

K.E 
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:15:43 PST   Listings
And grannys bloomers flying on a flag pole.................. yeah, great stamp!
Posted by ed845   ( 4269 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:09:19 PST   Listings
iomoon

Hi Jim,

can you email me your email addie. I have an article re Smokies on stamps to send you.

Ed
Posted by bjornmu   ( 856 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:05:56 PST   Listings
Knuden, happy birthday!?
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:04:54 PST   Listings
Jim,

As for the Red Cross stamp, I am not sure if you are being facitious or not. It certainly gets its point across. There is no mistaking the topic of the stamp. One can certainly not say it is a gaudy stamp. I am not sure what the sillouette on the bottom of the stamp is to represent. Is that a roof top, or is it the inside of a sewing box.
Posted by jaywild   ( 905 ) on Jan-05-07 at 12:00:01 PST   Listings
Ed… I agree. Hilarious!

NOIP… I think this is one of the prettiest stamps ever issued by the US.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-05-07 at 11:58:28 PST   Listings
Ed

ROTFLMAO!!!
Posted by jaywild   ( 905 ) on Jan-05-07 at 11:43:14 PST   Listings
soggy333 & billsey… It is completely baffling to me why anyone would bid on that #120. It’s scarcely even a stamp any more, just a mishmash of paper fibers stained with ink. If ever anything needed a trip to the recycle bin, that stamp does. Perhaps both those bidders have “Ugliest Stamps Imaginable” collections.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-05-07 at 11:31:48 PST   Listings
Soggy: Thank you also.
I have 2 old German perfins that have been handstamped as well. Sorta dual cancelled. Will post pics later.
Posted by soggy333   ( 52 ) on Jan-05-07 at 11:26:41 PST   Listings
jaywild
Don't you think that 24 cent # 120 should be sent to a good rest home or clinic in Canada where it will be given all the needed repairs and rehabilitation that it deserves. It would be a shame to shoot a veteran of many philatelic wars, one which has served and done duty in numerous children's albums over the years exposed to tears and peanut butter and jelly. Philatelic science can work wonders today and make a MNH gem out of that poor stamp in a matter of days.
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-05-07 at 11:21:37 PST   Listings
Jaywild: Thanks for the info. I'll check the listings out. Even if the cancel bears little if any value, perhaps the fact that it's socked square in the snotlocker will help some.
CJ
Posted by ed845   ( 4269 ) on Jan-05-07 at 11:17:28 PST   Listings
iomoon:

Jim

take a look here
http://www.cnpdonline.com/sotm/sotm.html

to see what others think of the GB 2006 Xmas stamps.

Ed
Posted by soggy333   ( 52 ) on Jan-05-07 at 11:15:02 PST   Listings
coinjester
The fanatical battleship collectors favor those with a readable steel canceller. This is not really logical since the hand cancelled ones are from the smaller companies and can be much scarcer, but of course can be faked more easily or not readable. The point is that a priced catalog for these exists, but apparently none of the readers of this board have one on hand. Just like perfins and precancels, the market is small enough that a "rarity" might have a market value of $10. There was a dealer who used to buy all I could send to him at 50 cents each, which he sold for 1 to 2 dollars.
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Jan-05-07 at 11:06:49 PST   Listings
Jim, I can't believe there were two bidders on that stamp!
Posted by jaywild   ( 905 ) on Jan-05-07 at 10:49:18 PST   Listings
coinjester… I’m not familiar with that specific cancel, but that type of cancel is usually how those “battleship” stamps are found. There were a jillion companies using those stamps, most often identified by initials just like that, and I would be surprised if your cancel were something valuable. Try checking auctions on eBay to see what those stamps go for. In the United States category, run a search for “battleship*”.

oggilby… Glad the coin reached you safe and sound. I haven’t seen the SD yet, I’ve been watching for it. Also, this stamp should be taken out and shot, although it looks as if it already has been.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Jan-05-07 at 10:29:08 PST   Listings
Bjorn re: your post at Jan-04-07 at 10:54:22 PST, I too have been complaining to myself about that behavior. I used to be able to stay logged in indefinitely by just keeping the browser window open. Now I only stay logged in for a few hours, and have to redo my login twice or three times per day. LiveWorld must have changed their code. :-(
Posted by saphilatelics   ( 393 ) on Jan-05-07 at 10:11:44 PST   Listings
dcderoo,
Wuerttemberg Michel 3bIII, 4aII, 13a, and 16xa or ya (flick it to see if thick = x or thin = y paper). All authentic with authentic cancels, the 13a badly cut into = worthless, but that's a very nice 16! The Michel 3 is a better type and shade (Michel CV EUR 65 rather than 44 for the basic stamp).
Posted by djs127   ( 533 ) on Jan-05-07 at 10:11:33 PST   Listings
dcderoo Nice Wuttemberg I love to buy and sell the old German states. But you are correct you have to worry about forgeries of stamps and cancels. When things slow down I need to go over some more German lots and some stamps still in my father's looseleafs and put them into a specialty album. But I am not sure if the scott German specialty album which I bought on EBay will have all the states I have.

First I have to clean up the stamp den again so I can get to the bottom bookshelf. Its currently being blocked by a milk crate which has some left over stock in it. Too bad its raining today as I now have 3 empty milk crates which need to go into my shed. I think that would have taken me a year or more to sell at stamp shows I have done 2 or 3 times a year.
David Snyder
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-05-07 at 09:43:13 PST   Listings
Speaking of NYStamps, I have catalogued his estimates many times and always come up short - way short! However, I am amazed at the prices he gets. Many times he will realize 50-60% of Scott. Seems bidders are really taken by collections on pages.

stamps12345One "dealer/agent/know it all" I have run into is James Reeves. An ornery sort who once tried to talk me out of looking at a lot at a Manning auction (I'm in a hurry", he seaid),some years back. I told him to get out of my face and he did. I have seen him tell others the rules of the aucion house as if he were an owner. Strange man.
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-05-07 at 09:31:54 PST   Listings
Paul, those labels are value declared stamps as Soggy mentioned. They are listed i.e. in Michel and also in the Temprano Catalogue from which I had sent you scans. Temprano lists 43 different ones and they can be costly...
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-05-07 at 09:16:47 PST   Listings
Try again.
Posted by soggy333   ( 52 ) on Jan-05-07 at 09:15:58 PST   Listings
Paul
Colombia--those labels you mention are really value declared stamps. Are they large? Say 2 by 3 inches. They used to be listed in Scott. That's why I keep an old 1903 edition around. Many items like that are in the old Scott's. Too bad their world specialized catalog at least does not bring them back. Scott editors--do you read this board?
Posted by coinjester   ( 55 ) on Jan-05-07 at 09:15:05 PST   Listings
Good morning all.
I need a little help http://www.boomspeed.com/coinjester/scan0003.jpg>here.
Scott's #RB28 1898 2 1/2 cent Proprietary with a bullseye handstamp, L.D. & Co. New York. The stamp in itself isn't of much value, but I was wondering about the value of the cancel... if any.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-05-07 at 08:33:24 PST   Listings
UPPERCANADIAN-----The auction in N.J. is Gregg Manning 's .We fought over a early Italian collection ,he got it . We sat next to each other for two days exaiming lots and talked about the lots and viewed each others request ,it saved the helpers who pull lots a lot of trouble .Jimmy is a nice person and friendly ,not like some of the old farts who think they know the business and try to push other viewers and stock people /helpers around .....
Posted by soggy333   ( 52 ) on Jan-05-07 at 08:03:58 PST   Listings
dcderoo
Those Wurttemberg look perfectly good.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 07:58:04 PST   Listings
There is another breed of seller though. The guys that are buying the 'illegal' issues and labels, such as Long Beach Philatelics. The ever growing market for Jennifer Lopez on the stamps of Batum amazes me.
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-05-07 at 07:57:30 PST   Listings
Your age?
Posted by knuden   ( 2176 ) on Jan-05-07 at 07:56:10 PST   Listings
I have just made a small but significant change of my page - guess which. ;O)

K.E 
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 07:55:06 PST   Listings
I purchased a really large collection from NYStamps 2 years ago. It consisted of 25 file boxes full of material. I have not seen him sell a lot that large in a long time. I assume that he is now breaking them down a bit before selling them.

I think a lot of people are buying up the bulk / cheap stuff, with the intention of selling material on Ebay on their minds.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-05-07 at 07:51:53 PST   Listings
Stamps12345

I know the auction in Chicago, which one is it in New Jersey??
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-05-07 at 06:56:40 PST   Listings
I have four German States-Württemberg stamps which have enough catalogue value to cause grief if they are forgeries.
I'd appreciate one of you knowledgeable types taking a look and rendering an opinion.

Württemberg (430kb)

Posted by oggilby   ( 1167 ) on Jan-05-07 at 06:37:27 PST   Listings
Greetings to all from a crazy, mixed winter (58 F and rain) in almost green Cetral Maryland!

another fine example of a used
19th century US stamp!

jaywild-jim--Got the coin, Thanks! I just got a SD yesterday, so keep you eyes open!

paul in chi--finally got my list of "cheapies" for you to check. List will show up in your email this weekend. Thanks for your help!
Posted by nomad55   ( 846 ) on Jan-05-07 at 06:22:48 PST   Listings
Jeff S.....yep, its me. That cover has been listed at least 3 times, with the opening amount steadily dropping. As it is now, its still too high, but somebody nibbled.
I don't fault the dealer though, he's very reliable, just out of his milleu on this cover.

By the way, last evening through a stroke of pure luck, I found my book on the St Louis fair. I can xerox off the Philippine village chapter & send it on to you.....but please "e" me your address.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-05-07 at 05:51:50 PST   Listings
Good day all.

R is for Rausu.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-05-07 at 05:44:57 PST   Listings
Have to agree with MARTIN/BRADSTONIAN and DRAGONSTAMPS That the cheap material and bulk stuff is selling well .I meet NYSTAMPS at two different auctions one in Chicago and the other in New Jersey .He was a every agressive buyer of bulk material and told me he makes a profit on everything he buys for sale on E-Bay .

There are a few guys who i watch that sell on e-bay who are making $50.00 to $100.00 a day everyday that are selling low grade collections and stamps in the $1.00 to $10.00 per set or stock sheet of stamps .They all have 25,000 plus feedbacks .E-bay is a great place to buy or sell the cheaper stuff ,it is true the prices are climbing for that material .

When i first got into e-bay i was surprised how fast i could sell material ,It took me less than two months to empty a closet full of material and at much better prices than when i took a table at a stamp show .For many years i sold box lots thru the stamp newspapers but just before e-bay the business was slowing down and only getting one or two orders a week which was a big drop from the normal 8-10 boxes a week .

I would like to sell again on e-bay but that would take time away from my collecting goal and the money is not enought to justify taking time away from other things .But some day hope to sit around the pool and list items on e-bay ,im sure it wouldn't take long to get a few thousand deals done .Just hope e-bay is still as good as it has been .....paul

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3294 ) on Jan-05-07 at 05:32:16 PST   Listings
nomad55
was it you interested in the PLAINS HOTEL ?
Jeff
Posted by cwhutch   ( 605 ) on Jan-05-07 at 05:02:09 PST   Listings
22028 - Thanks , Thats what I was wondering .

Hutch
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-05-07 at 04:55:21 PST   Listings
10-14 days you easily can expect..., Italian mail was never the fastest...
Posted by cwhutch   ( 605 ) on Jan-05-07 at 04:37:04 PST   Listings
Anyone know how long a letter should take from Italy to the U.S.?

TIA Hutch
Posted by cwhutch   ( 605 ) on Jan-05-07 at 04:16:42 PST   Listings
Good morning.

Hutch
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1163 ) on Jan-05-07 at 01:48:11 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


In keeping with the "R" theme here’s a couple of Rail Road Engines and a caboose.

card 14-4.

card 35-9.

card 21-8.

Jim L.
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-05-07 at 01:43:38 PST   Listings
Unsold items will remain for 60 days in your unsold list.., however, if you have the item number you can retrieve the time for (as far as I know) 6 month..., just enter the url with the item number manually...
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-05-07 at 00:03:57 PST   Listings
upper,

I just check to see if they are still showing and as long as the description & scan are still there then I will relist it. Ebay keeps the listings for 60 days but sometimes they are longer and it is a matter of checking to see if they are still there. Vendio keeps the scans for about 3 months unless they have been viewed then they keep them there for longer.

David B.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 823 ) on Jan-04-07 at 23:53:18 PST   Listings
I am interested David B., how long will an item remain in UNSOLD? Does it disappear like sold items after three months??
Posted by dragonstamps   ( 438 ) on Jan-04-07 at 23:52:01 PST   Listings
Even floorsweepings have been going for good prices.
I've seen people use that term in the title and get decent results for bulk.
I was trying to track how much bulk was being sold, (if tonnage amount sold was in decline), but I only could figure out that prices on the stuff were rising.
Ebay is also helping to grow the amount of collectors who want bulk, so I think it will continue to do well.

And now, in the next few weeks, you will all be hit with the NFL Football playoffs, I think most teams playing are represented by people who post, so my apologies in advance to those who don't care/understand american football.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 856 ) on Jan-04-07 at 22:57:02 PST   Listings
Jaywild, yes, anything inverted or wrong is of interest. This item will show up the next time I do my searches, so I would have found it but thanks anyway!
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-04-07 at 22:56:55 PST   Listings
Linda, but it fell at an important time, I can't concentrate when Australia is winning although it worked out well today as it was all over before lunch,

David B.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-04-07 at 22:44:13 PST   Listings
Well done, DAvid good use of the cheap listing day!
Posted by dbenson   ( 7691 ) on Jan-04-07 at 22:27:36 PST   Listings
NOIP,

I use the cheap listing days to try to sell unsolds.

I relisted 373 unsolds at 15c. and sold 118 which will refund the 15c. listing fee which means the outlay was 255 times 15c which is about $40. I sold just over $600 to about 100 different buyers of which about 70 have paid by Paypal or bank transfer. We have been flatout packing annd posting and still have about 40 to go which will be finished tomorrow.

David B.
Posted by bradstonian   ( 1086 ) on Jan-04-07 at 21:58:53 PST   Listings
Hi Alec,

I agree with you, no one is forced to buy or sell on eBay!

Before returning to collecting and discovering eBay, I had no viable means of disposing of unwanted stamps. Now I am able to make my collecting self financing, the extent of which is determined by how much time I can spend at it.

I think eBay fees are not unreasonable when compared with other avenues, such as hiring a table at a stamp fair. The other thing that is important to me that I haven't seen mentioned before is that with eBay it isn't necessary to maintain a stock.

Admittedly, most of what I sell is little better than floor sweepings, but I have found that when I have offered better material, generally it sells for a reasonable price.

By starting most of my lots at 99p, and offering what I hope is reasonable shipping, I usually sell about 80% of what is listed. I use cheap listing days to relist unsold lots at reduced prices, and maintain the same sell ratio.

Don't forget that is eBay didn't exist, nor would this forum.

Have a good day,

Martin.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 2 ) on Jan-04-07 at 21:52:40 PST   Listings
Thanks Martin
I knew there would be an easy answer
cheers

Roly
Posted by bradstonian   ( 1086 ) on Jan-04-07 at 21:43:56 PST   Listings
Hi Roly,

Your Machins are from vending machines, where the 'tear off' teeth have damaged the stamps. This is commonly found on such stamps, and is considered to be damage.

Your stamp with 5 different perfs sounds like a much better prospect!

Martin.
Posted by djs127   ( 533 ) on Jan-04-07 at 20:34:28 PST   Listings
uppercanadian Thanks for confirming what I thought about Stampwants. I also think they don't have enough foreign customers as they are advertising in the US stamp publications. It might be worthwhile for those selling US and possesion stamps and covers.
David Snyder
Posted by jaywild   ( 905 ) on Jan-04-07 at 18:49:51 PST   Listings
bjorn… I don’t know whether this would be of interest to you. Only the month is upside down.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by dbenson   ( 7687 ) on Jan-04-07 at 17:38:03 PST   Listings
coverplus, that period of Straits is a minefield of forged overprints,

David B.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1163 ) on Jan-04-07 at 16:41:26 PST   Listings
Jess (postalhysteria)
There is a Specialized Bureau catalogue which covers such varieties, but I’ve et to run into anyone really focusing on them. Far to many on far to common stamps for most of us. I’ve looked over the Indiana section and decided that for the most part it was more detail that I wanted to chase after. But, I do look to see if something looks “unusual” to me and have a small envelope set aside for checking “someday.” So, if your's were Indiana I'b be setting them aside for later. In the Precancel market I’ve yet to notice a premium charged for any of the minor varieties.

In keeping with the "R" theme here’s a Kokomo Club Card with a “Red” cancel.
card 21-2 .

Jim L.

Posted by coversplus   ( 8633 ) on Jan-04-07 at 16:02:23 PST   Listings
David B. Thanks for the tip. I am working my way through an old collection of Straits Settlements. Probably should have figured it wouldn't be too easy. I'll have to go check out Gibbons from the local Phil. Library tomorrow. Thanks again.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 2 ) on Jan-04-07 at 15:15:19 PST   Listings
Machin Nutters :)
I found these strips of Machins that come from booklets? What stood out was the misaligned perfs. Is this common (the fact that I have three examples makes me think it may be)? Is there a premium for such examples?

Incidently, we have this perf problem on some of our very early NZ stamps. I have an example of a four sided stamp with five perfs !! Top of the stamp has 13perf along half of it and then 14perf for the other half, one side 12perf, other side 12.5perf, and the bottom is 11perf. Will try and find it again amonst all my "Capt Cook" material and scan it.

Cheers
Roly

Posted by dbenson   ( 7687 ) on Jan-04-07 at 15:07:13 PST   Listings
coverplus, looks OK to be, most probably s.g. 30, all letters wide. The Red cancel KWALA ? (presumably Lumpur)would give it a much more chance of being genuine as 99& of fakes have cancels that would not exist on a Selangor overprint, pity about the short perf. at top but it is a scarce stamp,

p.s. for Straits overprints you should be using Gibbons or Robson Lowe's Asia,

David B.
Posted by coversplus   ( 8633 ) on Jan-04-07 at 14:58:36 PST   Listings
A Malaya-Selangor overprint which doesn't seem to be in Scott. Looks like #8 but with wide letters and measures 17.5mmX2.75mm. An old forgery or some variety? The red postmark appears to be on top of the letters A and R. Any help would be appreciated. Many Thanks. Eric.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 855 ) on Jan-04-07 at 14:57:14 PST   Listings
infla-alec, thanks for the Uganda cover which arrived today!

Knuden, the sender of the Norwegian obiously philatelic R cover, Anton Holmboe, was either a stamp dealer of a very active collector. FDC's from the WWII era are often addressed to him.

BTW, strictky speaking the Ron these is for the French word Recommandé. Hope I spelled that right.
Posted by nomad55   ( 846 ) on Jan-04-07 at 14:57:03 PST   Listings
Postally Hysterical Jeff.....Somewhere I have info on the Philippine village from a historical study done of that fair. It will probably be several days before I can dig out the book from under all the debris.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7687 ) on Jan-04-07 at 14:50:12 PST   Listings
knuden, looks like it's time for you to write an article in one of the specialist magazines,

David B.
Posted by knuden   ( 2175 ) on Jan-04-07 at 14:40:47 PST   Listings
Thank you for the comments to my story about the tiny thingies. :O)

I have just recieved two other interesting Registered covers.

This Swedish cover has two interesting provisionals. If you can find any of them without overprint, you are a lucky one.

This Norwegian second weigtclass cover to Germany could interest Bjornmu. :O)

I recieved two interesting R items more:

R for Riga. This Latvian wrapper was sent from Riga to Germany shortly after the outbreak of WW2 and bear a rare "von der Wehrmacht zugelassen" (Released by the army) cancel and a rare circular censor cancel from Königsberg.

R for Rumburg. This printed matter was first sent from Leverkusen (canceled with a cancel from a Post Office at the I. G. Werke (factory) to Rumburg in Sudetenland. Here it was redirected to Brno in Czechoslovakia and here charged 50h, for the different of the domestic rate and the rate abroad. But in Brno they had to redirect it again BACK to Podersam in Sudetenland and now the rate (3 pf) was correct. That's why the Czech postal due stamp was cancelled "invalid" in Czech. The back should interest rclwa. :O)

K.E 
Posted by dbenson   ( 7687 ) on Jan-04-07 at 14:38:37 PST   Listings
Basil Fawlty's famous comment that is always remembered was

" Don't Mention the War ",

it should be updated today with,

" Don't Mention the Cricket ",

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 493 ) on Jan-04-07 at 13:47:42 PST   Listings
To ebay or not to ebay Simple fact is that ebay don't really look upon stamps and all the sub categories as being important enough to warrant listening to what we collectors have to say. Sure they make changes but seemingly never the right ones.
That said it is still a fun place to buy and sell. I don't agree with everything they do but no one is holding a gun to my head forcing me to remain an ebayer.
Sales As a seller I have probaly got around 99% success rate. Some have sold for way above what I expected and other times below. Am I disappointed ? No, because it is material I no longer need or is duplicated material. I look upon ebay as an easy way to sell things and accept their terms and conditions. All those complaining about increased sellers fees think how few sales you would have had if ebay hadn't been around. Then consider the number of friends you have made either through sales and this board.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3294 ) on Jan-04-07 at 13:31:57 PST   Listings
Interesting google result on Philippine Village at the Louisiana expo. Will have to do some digging.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-04-07 at 13:22:12 PST   Listings
I had a good look around StampWants.com. It looks like a nice site, and the fees are definitely attractive for a seller, but it seems as though there is a little traffic. Only a handful of items had more than one bid, so I think perhaps their Store set-up might be best. Although I then look at a store like Saskconnection. They have 17,000+ items listed, and only have feedback of 200. And that is 200 total feedback, not 200 registered users. I am going to keep and eye on it though. Sellers will have to band together and decide one site to populate.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-04-07 at 13:05:33 PST   Listings
It is January 4th, and we are still waiting for Ebay to make available the November Sales Reports, which were due on December 15th. Just another example of Ebay not delivering.
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3294 ) on Jan-04-07 at 13:03:35 PST   Listings
Thanks for the info on Delcampe, have found a couple cover items of interest.

Stopped in at StampWants and found this nifty Louisina Purchase Expo cover

Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3294 ) on Jan-04-07 at 11:57:29 PST   Listings
Precancel Jim i have 2 examples of CLEVELAND 597-61 (1c 4th Bureau coil) with different settings of the position of OHIO under CLEVELAND.

The yellow-green shade shows the first O of OHIO directly underfirst E of CLEVELAND and the last O of OHIO just to the left of center of the second L of CLEVELAND.

The other example, DARK GREEN, shows the first O of OHIO just to the left of center of V of CLEVELAND with the last O under LA of CLEVELAND.

Neither match the Type 61 example in my copy of the Bureau book.

Do precancel collectors care about such varieties?

Jeff

Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-04-07 at 11:42:07 PST   Listings
One of my favourite Google Earth spots is Krakatoa. I find it so fascinating, even if it is not "East of Java"!!
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-04-07 at 11:32:41 PST   Listings
Brad

Yes, I found it infinitely more satisfying than buying stamps to fill in gaps.

Plus, in stock books they can be easily moved around, taken out, and scanned.

Plus, it's my specialty.

How about a US one?
R is for Rainier (not Rainer!!)
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-04-07 at 11:23:11 PST   Listings
bjornmu, thanks.
I found them WAY in the back of the Michel catalogue.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-04-07 at 11:03:32 PST   Listings
Hutch,

That is good advise there. I recently purchased two file boxes full of cancelled Canadian stamps for about $100. It is time consuming, but in those two boxes I found $1800 worth of unfranked postage. Those deals have now disappeared though, as they became so profitable, most sellers are doing the sorting themselves now, and will sell $200 face value for maybe $120.

As far as Ebay goes, there main responsibility is to get buyers to come here, and it is there that I think they are failing. I have used some pretty sophisticated trackers over the last two years to determine traffic patterns on my auctions. Generally, traffic to my auctions are down 50% over two years ago.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-04-07 at 10:57:17 PST   Listings
djs127 writes about packaging


I bought some Orange Free State stamps a couple of years ago from a guy in Britain. He had good feedback, so I was amazed when the stamps came to me in a small envelope, just flopping around freely inside. Two of them were damaged. I got my money back, and never purchased from him again. I didn't leave any feedback though, as he communicated well.
In purchasing large collections, I end up with a lot of ratty binders. The cardboard inside most of those is quite thin but almost as strong as wood. I cut those up, place the stamps in a 102, and then tape the 102 to the cardboard. I always place the cardboard side to the front of the envelope, as cancellers in Canada can sometimes hit with some force.

In using two pieces of typical cardboard, I was usually below the weight limitation, but in Canada, the letter must be 5mm or less in thickness to qualify for for the Standard Letter service of 51-Cents for up to 30g and 89-Cents for up to 50g. After 50g of thicker than 5mm, it must move Other Lettermail at $1.05 for up to 100g.

On my first big purchase of a collection, I started throwing everything out, including old glassines, small cardboard backings and old cardboard black Vario-type pages. My wife freaked out about the waste and started putting together all of the packages for mailing for me. I waste nothing nowdays and have saved money recycling everything.

Many of my feedbacks have pointed out how good my packaging is, which is a real testament to my wife's insistance to recycle.

Postage Rates I am always struggling with finding the balance between a low postage rate, and covering some of Ebay and Paypal flat-fees, as well as costs for envelopes etc. In always try and start my auctions around the 99-cent mark and tried to have very low shipping prices. But now, with the traffic on Ebay generally declining, I often do not get more than 1 or 2 bids on an item. If I don't use the postage to cover the listing fee and the flat fee from Paypal, I end up losing money, and that is not even factoring in the actual cost of me purchasing the item itself.


For postage, I now generally sit at Canada $1.25, USA $1.75 and International $2.25. But, in most cases, I never charge anything extra for additional auction purchases. Unfortunately, this incentive generally does not pay off for me though. Probably 75% of my buyers, only purchase 1 item at a time. Strangely, a lot of them will purchase 1 item from my store, then another item 3 weeks later, and another again after that. They could have saved themselves a lot of money if they purchased everything together.

DELCAMPE

When I discovered Delcampe about 6 months ago, I was thrilled, and figured that it was the solution to my growing frustration, and diminishing profits from Ebay. Unfortunately, so far it has proven to be less than successful. Delcampe is great, in that you as a seller pay nothing until the item sells. You can also automatically renew an unsold auction. You can set it, so it will renew up to 99 times. That means stuff sits on Delcampe for almost 2 years, and a seller does not have to do anything during that time. That is why Delcampe has over 3 million Philatelic Items on the go right now. It is very difficult to sell stuff there, because it is hard to get people to even look at your items.

I am considering giving it another try in the near future. As 80% of Delcampe's buyer seem to be in Europe, I am developing a multilingual listing, which will be in English, French, German, Italian, and Spanish. I think that that will make a big difference. Delcampe is aligned with Moneybookers, which is the equivalent here to Paypal. I have had a lot of problems getting my account to work there though. I have some money in my account, but can't seem to get at it, and they are as unresponisve as Paypal is. I have purchased some stuff from Delcampe, but again ran into trouble with Moneybookers. Fortunately the few dealers I have dealt with so far were understanding and helpful (and French!!).

Iomoon

Are there many Volcano collectors out there. Everytime I look at your posted pictures of your items, I find that I am drawn towards your collecting interest. I am trying to develop a thematic collection based on Medieval Ages topics, but I am not sure my heart is in it. Time will tell I guess.

All the best,

Brad



Posted by bjornmu   ( 855 ) on Jan-04-07 at 10:56:40 PST   Listings
Knuden, great collection of R labels you had yesterday! Most have taken some time to find them all. I know similar things happened to the cancels. The first of your "post-liberation" cover is interesting, as they have removed the German-only name, making it into a cancel from nowhere!
Posted by bjornmu   ( 855 ) on Jan-04-07 at 10:54:22 PST   Listings
dcderoo, lookl under Feldpostmarken, these are #1-4. Yes they are cheap as unused, the first one also as used.

Why is is that I now have to re-login to this board ever so often? I used to stay logged in until I restarted my browser (which I have to do now and then as it gobbles up memory).
Posted by cwhutch   ( 603 ) on Jan-04-07 at 10:49:58 PST   Listings
DJS - I use 1.00 shipping for the 1st lot and .15 each lot thereafter for any lots other than albums or real heavy items.
I buy discount postage lots from others venues and as such the 0.84 postage to most of the world really cost more in the range of 0.30 .So for my dollar shipping I get my listing fee and actual postage cost back.
Its a constant learning process for me, But its not my living either so I don't need a certain % of profit and catalogue value means nothing to me .
I find that so many sellers charge stupid shipping prices to overseas buyers that you can attract many buyers with fair shipping - Just start your auction at a price you can live with and not 0.99 .
I sell around 80% of what I list so it works for me.
Just my 2 cents on the subject.

Hutch
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-04-07 at 10:23:28 PST   Listings
There is an enormous difference between the casual seller who may wish to sell off duplicates or unwanted material the invariably comes along as extra baggage when buying lots or collections AND the true seller who is out to make a profit and lists many auctions.

With that in mind, one cannot possibly equate shipping charges. When I buy at a stamp show, the seller (unless he is economically challenged) will build in the cost of the table into the sales price of the material being offered.

True sellers here in this venue, by and large, do the same thing and will often build the listing fee AND PayPal fees into the shipping price. Attracting buyers with "low" shipping is silly thinking. One attracts buyers with quality material and reasonable shipping charges.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-04-07 at 10:18:52 PST   Listings
More German stamps help needed.
These are cheap stamps.
I can't find the in Michel. Where are they?

Military stamp 1
Military stamp 2
Military stamp 3
Military stamp 4

Posted by djs127   ( 532 ) on Jan-04-07 at 10:06:30 PST   Listings
cwhutch On overseas customers for $1 shipping are you only selling 1 stamp or a set or number of sets? I find it I use 2 peices of cardboard over the 102 cards for safety (which people tell me they appreciate) if you have enough 102 cards it can easily go over 1 ounce which costs 84 cents to ship.
Which is why I charge $2 shipping fee to foreign buyers.
I wonder with the new Ebay fee structure will some sellers just up their shipping charges to cover the increase?
David Snyder
Posted by stamphick!   ( 333 ) on Jan-04-07 at 09:58:02 PST   Listings
cwhutch...Yes. The quality, quantity and variety of material there has really been increasing in the last year.
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Jan-04-07 at 09:20:52 PST   Listings
Roly, I believe that's just an owners mark, though David might have a better idea than I would.

Heading off to the wilds of The Dalles, Oregon for a couple of days helping Georgia get settled. luckily, even they have broadband! :-)
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-04-07 at 09:17:32 PST   Listings
JayWild No scans. I collected them when I was in New York in the 1970's.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 603 ) on Jan-04-07 at 09:04:07 PST   Listings
claghorn1p and liberian-c - Thanks to both of you .

NOIP - I found ebay(was not called that then) because of all the chat on Rec.Collecting.Stamps about how much better StampAuctions.com was than whatever they called ebay back then. If I remember right that was 1997.

DJS - Overseas bidders make up 90% of my sales when I sell . I have found (for me) that 1.00 shipping worldwide really attracts them .

Stamphick - Would that be pennystamps site ?

Hutch
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-04-07 at 08:09:08 PST   Listings
dcderoo, in case someone searches for words with Umlaut then it is necessary..., since yo have the word already, it does not hurt to add it.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-04-07 at 08:05:29 PST   Listings
necessay = necessary
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-04-07 at 08:03:21 PST   Listings
I've been told (here) that to catch the interest of non-US bidders it is advisable to use key words in the language of the country of interest.
My question is, "How specific should the key words be?"

Case in point:
German Officials - Dienstmarken
BUT some are labeled in Michel Zähldienstmarken.

Is it necessary to get that specific?
Is the umlaut necessay?

Posted by stamphick!   ( 333 ) on Jan-04-07 at 07:53:13 PST   Listings
I've pretty much given up either buying or selling here for some of the reasons already mentioned. I mostly buy & sell n a stamps only site that charges no fees for buyer or seller and has offerings from 5¢ to a couple thousand dollars.
Posted by jaywild   ( 901 ) on Jan-04-07 at 07:48:57 PST   Listings
Bill C… That is indeed a very sad story. Thieves that steal stamps never have any idea what to do with them. Either they sell them for a pittance to a dealer, or else throw them away out of fear they might be traced back to them if sold. All the work that went into collecting and arranging them, not to mention the scholarship and dedication, goes out the window.

Do you still have scans of them?

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by librarian-c   ( 941 ) on Jan-04-07 at 07:44:40 PST   Listings
cwhutch:

StampAuctions was absorbed into BoxLot.com, which is still around (I think) but they didn't want the stamp business really. They were more of an antique site, as I recall (somewhat fuzzy none the less) and the stamp business just went away.The url is still active, taking you to Heritage Auctions, which is more art, coin, etc........

John A
Posted by jaywild   ( 901 ) on Jan-04-07 at 07:44:26 PST   Listings
NOIP… This is how people spend their time in my hometown of Tucson—defacing public property. (The hula hoop was not part of the original design…)

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-04-07 at 07:39:38 PST   Listings
JayWild /b> You break my heart. I had a large album of those pre-1870 New York Foreign Mail cancels stolen. It was my favorite album. The thought still makes me sad. I lived in New York and it was my New York collection.
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-04-07 at 07:35:58 PST   Listings
Hutch You know why my eBay ID is claghorn1p ? It is because that is what my StampAuctions.com ID was. I knew the guy who ran StampAuctions.com and even have a mug and T shirt and other stuff. He said that the business model did not work out.
Posted by jaywild   ( 901 ) on Jan-04-07 at 07:30:22 PST   Listings
Linda… What lovely snapshots you posted! Almost as cute as the Mini photo. Such a gamine you were (are)…

J

NOIP… What looks like an ordinary lot of crummy stamps here actually contains two beauties. Not the stamps per se—they’re all butt-ugly—but the cancels on the first and fourth stamps are scarce pre-1870 New York Foreign Mail marks. That’s why the bidding was so competitive in the last few seconds. (Yours truly is down there in fourth place.)

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by djs127   ( 532 ) on Jan-04-07 at 07:15:07 PST   Listings
Thanks Paul for your words that I am learning.
Just to clarify only 10 of my listings from the 15 cent day were new ones, the rest were relistings of lots which had not sold before and I am happy with the xtra money. I also am not happy about the increase in fees.
As far as other sites there have been mentions on VSC and full page ads in Linn's about stampwants.com but I am not sure if it has the global stamp exposure Ebay has. Without foriegn biders bidding on my lots I would make less sales at lower prices.
David Snyder
Posted by cwhutch   ( 603 ) on Jan-04-07 at 07:09:13 PST   Listings
What happened to StampAuctions.com anyway .I had forgotten about them .

Hutch
Posted by librarian-c   ( 941 ) on Jan-04-07 at 06:54:11 PST   Listings
22028:

I certainly remember StampAuctions.com!! That was where I started when this was still mainly a PEZ site. eBay picked up on a lot of the essentials of those other early places and made this a fun place to list and sell. Over the years, as I have moved from not being as active here to slowly getting back into it again, I see where eBay is trying to take the fun out of it again. Many of the PowerSellers regularly state that they don't want to bother with anything less than $50-100, because it's not worth their time, well I guess eBay was paying attention. You will get your wish and see that this will only be a place for high-end buyers and sellers. Just remember that the high-end buyer is most often "very" hard to please (not a fault, just a condition of the type of purchase)so you can no longer list your expensive space-filler and expect it will easily sell.

I've been active and then not so active, but always watched eBay........perhaps I will end up doing that again!!
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-04-07 at 06:44:32 PST   Listings
NOIP I see the U.S. "core" listing fee increase as follows: Either a seller pays the extra nickel or lists everything that would be listed from $1.00 - $9.99 at $0.99 for a 50% reduction in listing fees.

This will probably ensure more watchers, more bidders and more sales. That's what it's all about. Sellers just need to hope a $0.99 listing will reach a satisfactory level to justify such an opening bid.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-04-07 at 05:55:20 PST   Listings
Good day all.

From a cool Longisland.

R is for Ruiz.
The site of one of the worst disasters of the 20th Century.
Posted by cwhutch   ( 603 ) on Jan-04-07 at 05:48:16 PST   Listings
Good morning.

philaweb - Thanks for the Delcampe link.

uppercanadian - I think your right.

briguy - There is a legal Absinthe which I seen for sale in the French Quarter but never tried it .

Hutch
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-04-07 at 05:41:06 PST   Listings
Thanks for the update of your auctions DAVID S. ,Its good to see the improvements and better listings that you have.Getting advice from the many people here who have the experience has helped ,just try to skip the few especially if they are not themselfs experience buyers or sellers on E-BAY .Again... your getting better and thats what counts ......paul
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1163 ) on Jan-04-07 at 04:37:02 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all





In keeping with the "R" theme here’s a few items that show Race car’s.

The first car to wind the Indianapolis 500 is the Marmon Wasp. The Speedway museum told us that it had not left the speedway since winning the 500 until the First Day Ceremony for the Transportation series 17.5 cent Racing Car coil stamp which was issued in conjunction with the milk wagon coil. What connects the two is that the driver of the Wasp began the tradition of drinking milk in the winners circle. Here’s the
Marmon Wasp.

Here’s a FDC produced by the Indiana Stamp Club. click here .


Here’s an unofficial FDC with a cachet from IndyPex I worked up. click here .


Here’s another unofficial FDC from Speedway, Indiana (that’s where the Indianapolis 500 racetrack is located) click here .


Here’s some Kokomo Club Cards that show race cars:

card 24-5.

card 28-5.

card 31-5.

card 12-6.


Jim L.
Posted by margozim   ( 4 ) on Jan-04-07 at 04:16:22 PST   Listings
Thanks for the update on your auctions, Mr. Snyder. Not that anyone asked. Hasn't it dawned on you yet that, in your excitement to save a few bucks on cheap listing days, you are losing far more money than if you paid the full price, but didn't have to compete with all the dreck dredged out of the closet for 15 cents? Just think of the all the time you wasted putting up your auctions, 70 percent of which didn't sell. That's a pretty poor ratio.
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-04-07 at 04:10:30 PST   Listings
philaweb, I know delcampe since long and have bought 2 lots over the past 3 or so years. I find the items there expensive, at least for what I collect. Also the variance of items, again for the area I collect, I find very limited.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 2 ) on Jan-04-07 at 02:44:14 PST   Listings
billsey, Dave B. Is the "MC" of significance on the back of this stamp? Watermark is W15.

Cheers
Roly

Posted by philaweb   ( 184 ) on Jan-04-07 at 02:01:14 PST   Listings
22028 DelCampe has been around since 2001 and is a great place to sell/buy inexpensive items.
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-04-07 at 01:36:02 PST   Listings
Year ago there was an other online auction house called stampauction.com (someone remember???) but this has been taken over by someone else. They used to be very good. I also remember www.stamps-123.com or so.., located in Canada. Maybe its about time to look again for alternatives?
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-04-07 at 00:37:25 PST   Listings
Sorry for the poor English and spelling. Obviously this boy needs some sleep!!!
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-04-07 at 00:36:29 PST   Listings
Hutch


Ebay is not interested in items even at the $10.00 level, and they will continue to pound the life out of the Ebay Stores. They only want items at $20 or above, and they want them to sell fast.

I do okay selling collections, but a while back I got into some New Issues and singles - they lose money 60% of the time. I think within the next two years, unless there is a reversal of Ebay's policies, you will see a lot of the collectible business move elsewhere.

NOIP
I didn't get much in terms of feedback on those Confederate Essay Cards, so I figure I will just list them and let the market decide.


BrigGuy


They do sell Absinthe here in Ontario, Canada, but to get a bottle of the Green Fairy costs about $80. It is made with wormwood but the hallucinajenic properties of the wormwood have been extracted. At the price, I have so far passed, although I do happen to possess and old spoon straining spoon used in the Absinthe process. It has become popular in nightclubs in Toronto, as much for the buring sugar ceremony as for the drink itself.

Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-03-07 at 23:39:39 PST   Listings
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05/28/05

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-03-07 at 23:06:39 PST   Listings
well JayJim you wont see it in the scan of that very grainy 1971 photo of me (in my butterfly Tshirt) behind the bar, but 2nd bottle along, next to the round bottle, is actual JD!!
Posted by cwhutch   ( 603 ) on Jan-03-07 at 23:03:56 PST   Listings
Way to go LSU 41 to 14 over Notre Dame.

Jack smack - Crown on the rocks.

The increase in listing fees suck. Ebays the greatest venue for stamp collecting of my lifetime and its getting to be impossible to sell anything under 10.00 because the listing,Final value and paypal fees. It would be so nice if they could figure out an ebay lite or something for the 90% of the stamps that are worthless and I really need but currently have to buy large lots to get.
I really wish we had a few local stamp shops for that purpose .

Hutch

Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-03-07 at 22:48:01 PST   Listings
Jim There are several nice licensed bottle shops here and with the Liquor License which will be issued by the Police Department here it is possible to buy all sorts of alcohol. Including Jack Daniels...
Posted by jaywild   ( 901 ) on Jan-03-07 at 21:53:16 PST   Listings
A & S… May I put in a good word or two for Jack Daniels? I don’t think JD has made it to the Antipodes or the Persian Gulf. One word of caution—don’t put Coca-Cola in it. Jack will come and personally haunt you if you do.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-03-07 at 21:44:50 PST   Listings
oppps Rainer, maybe I should have said the 68-75 year olds then!
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-03-07 at 21:22:02 PST   Listings
mini*lindy, Asti for 18-25 years old..., well, I guess you are out of time..., thy prefer Tequila, Bacardi etc...
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-03-07 at 21:15:00 PST   Listings
oh Bri.. Im sure I did ! I ran my own bar/ pub in Germany. Started that when I was just 21 yrs old too!
Not sure we sold absinthe then or not, strongest drink I ever had was, I think, a Calvados!
Posted by thebriguy1   ( 64 ) on Jan-03-07 at 21:03:45 PST   Listings
mini*lindy You must have hung around a higher class of 18-25 year olds then I did. In my era of youthful experimenting, anything fruit flavored, with a screw on cap, was considered a fine wine. Ahhh college, hard to believe any of us survived.

Rainer I agree. Sweet fu-fu ladies drink. blech!

-- We serve hard drinks here to rough men who want to get drunk fast.... (my favorite line from the perennial Christmas movie "It's a Wonderful Life")

However,.....if any of you Europeans would like to send over a bottle of the real absinthe (I think it may well be banned here in the states)....I'd be willing to try it. :o)
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-03-07 at 20:58:00 PST   Listings
Knuden thank YOU!!! what a lovely posting on the Registration labels, very very interesting.

djs you must be disappointed with only a 30% sold/unsold ratio. I think during the ebay 'sale' times it is much harder to sell, personally I try to avoid those days.

See where some insertion fees and final value fees are increasing from Feb. 1 -- however, first Auction increase in about 2 years so I guess we will have to learn to adjust to it. (details on Announcements Board).

Linda
Posted by djs127   ( 532 ) on Jan-03-07 at 20:48:09 PST   Listings
My auctions from the 15 cent listing day have now all closed and I sold 27 out of 89 or 30% of my lots for $252.88
My thanks to all who helped me identify stamps and inform me of errors.
Thanks,
David Snyder
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-03-07 at 20:37:46 PST   Listings
Bill C - Bill D -

I guess I should always stay with my educated guess, intuition, whatevers!

At least I got Bill C to make a post besides his posting of the ever present Yellow Box. We appreciate your "webmastership" of the Box and it would cause great inconveniences if they didn't appear. Thanks!

Roger
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-03-07 at 20:26:47 PST   Listings
Asti!!!! I think NOT... MAYBE a Moet or a HenkelTrocken... never asti, thats for the 18-25yr olds (and I dont think we have any of them here!)
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-03-07 at 20:08:05 PST   Listings
Asti Spumanti, far too sweet..., maybe something to lure woman...
Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-03-07 at 19:57:45 PST   Listings
yeah!
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-03-07 at 19:28:51 PST   Listings
Forget Fournier and Sperati, bring on the Asti Spumanti!!

Posted by claghorn1p   ( 408 ) on Jan-03-07 at 19:26:03 PST   Listings
Forget Sperati.

Fournier.

Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-03-07 at 19:13:39 PST   Listings
Jim L-
)'>)
Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-03-07 at 19:12:31 PST   Listings
Bill D -
Correction. The rhomboid cancels come from Sperati, I believe.

Roger
Posted by zgs501   ( 234 ) on Jan-03-07 at 19:02:16 PST   Listings
dcderoo
they are referred to simply as "Dienstmarken" (officials) or "Dienstmarken fuer die Partei" (officials for party use). Michel does not categorize them separately the way Scott does, but lists them consecutively with all other officials.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1163 ) on Jan-03-07 at 19:00:39 PST   Listings
antonius-ra
I may find out just how selective the eBay email system is. I’ve used the same link to request an invoice so I can mail payment on that lot. I won it at a price that’s good, even if it’s a duplicate of the inverted precancel I have already.


prochute
I’m glad you’ve enjoyed seeing that cover. Now I know more about it’s companies than I did before.


knuden
Impressive post on the Registered labels. They are indeed an interesting area to study. Just wish I had more Irish ones so I could do a similar study.


Roger(malolo)
Is that a fancy piece of art work or a badly corroded coin?



In keeping with the "R" theme here’s a Rossville, Indiana precancel on a Century of Progress bridge. 734walk in favor.

Jim L.

Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-03-07 at 19:00:30 PST   Listings
Bill D -
Bill C should be able to help. )'>) All the Zurich's with the 1843 in the corner are reproductions (I forget when they were printed, possibly 1943). I think the 5 centimes and 4 centimes Post Locale are Fournier. The green Geneve Port Cantonal are probably fake, the light paper 5 cent green may be good coming from wrappers.

One point to always consider is that these stamps as originals were always in short supply. I've read papers, and articles listing forgeries created during the 1850's and 1860's for collectors. So some of these could be 140 years old, most are likely to be 20th century creations.

This is one reason I don't collect anything prior to 1854 Strubels, one must buy stamps with certificates and that is expensive and I don't play that game.

Roger
Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-03-07 at 18:41:59 PST   Listings
Knuden -- Wonderful post on Registered labels. Your efforts are much appreciated! Coincidentally, I had just returned from the post office, where I found THIS Registered cover from Riga awaiting me. From my informing him of my topical interests, a wonderful seller in Latvia prepared this cover to me, quite as nice as the eBay lot it enclosed! There is another R word on the M/S, but I couldn't get any online Latvian-English translator to work, nor did I find a Raunu River in an atlas. It says ''MURA TILTS PAR RAUNU'' (plus some accent marks) on the sheet. Anyone here read Latvian?

Added bonus is a nice Christmas Day cancel, seldom seen here.

Anyway, I need to compose an especially nice feedback comment for this guy.

Bob in WA
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-03-07 at 18:41:23 PST   Listings
Oops - I've reported the last post. Hopefully it will be gone soon. Sorry.


A question on these Swiss stamps. Given their source I doubt any are genuine, but I'm curious. They came in a large lot of Switzerland I bought several years ago from a dealer specializing in Switzerland. When I bought the lot I assumed these are of no value, and the lot was well worth what I paid. But I am curious about these stamps.

Bill D.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-03-07 at 18:40:57 PST   Listings
I know Scott calls these stamps Franchise stamps.

What's the correct term in German?

Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-03-07 at 18:32:51 PST   Listings
prochute -
My guess is that eBay has to recoup some money after the holidays. There were too many new features introduced last quarter which confused and irritated sellers. ONE ONLY HAD TO READ THE DISCUSSION BOARDS TO KNOW A BUNCH OF THINGS WERE WRONG! All to the detriment of seller income and most often caused from eBay created search problems. eBay went too far during the seaason where sellers had to have 100% trust in eBay not doing something stupid. Well, eBay made a number of stupid unecessary manipulations and someone has to pay.

Roger
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-03-07 at 18:29:30 PST   Listings
Protecto Mount (I think)!
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-03-07 at 18:15:48 PST   Listings
jaywild, correct!
I hesitate to even THINK about the time I spent mounting stamps in Crystal Mount.

There was a later mount that I also used for a while.
The name escapes me at the moment.
But it was a "pocket" with a black back and a clear front. You'd slide the stamp in from the top, peel off the backing exposing an adhesive, fold the top tab over to completely seal the stamp, then stick it in your album.

Posted by jaywild   ( 901 ) on Jan-03-07 at 18:12:58 PST   Listings
Knud-Erik... Yes, indeed, a wonderful post about R labels.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-03-07 at 18:10:46 PST   Listings
Just received saddening news.
Jim Luhr, Director of the Smithsonian Global Volcanism Program died peacefully in his sleep on the 1st of the year, aged 53.
Posted by jaywild   ( 901 ) on Jan-03-07 at 18:05:10 PST   Listings
dc... The Mounts From Hell, aka Crystal Mounts.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-03-07 at 17:52:52 PST   Listings
NOIP, trivia question.
Name the stamp mount.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-03-07 at 17:49:43 PST   Listings
To all sellers:Effective Jan 30, 2007

Core Listing Fees: Auction-style & Fixed Price*
Starting Price: $1.00 - $9.99; Insertion Fee $0.40

Final Value Fee
Selling Price: $25.01 - $1000.00; 3.25%
*Does not impact Store Inventory Listings.

Seems these fee increases cover about 80%-90% of all items listed and a high % of final sales.
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-03-07 at 17:45:14 PST   Listings
knuden

Kudos to you. I looked at every label. A fascinating posting, thank you.
Posted by taodave   ( 135 ) on Jan-03-07 at 17:02:37 PST   Listings
Uppercanadian-

Brad, many thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you have enjoyed viewing some of my covers.

taodave
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-03-07 at 17:00:49 PST   Listings
Here's something I found in the closet over the holidays and wondered if it has any value. I'm going to put it up on eBay once I've determined there may be interest.

The color red. The same pigment appears different on different papers as shown in this scan.


Blue - Sitting Helvetia Feb 1867 -1881, 30 centimes Ultramarine also had a blue variety issued in the fall of 1867. There were not many priinted. Many times one sees the blue variety offered on eBay with dates out of period period, which was September, October, and possibly into November 1867. The scan shows a blue on top of a variety of ultramarines. Cat difference -blue SF350, ultra SF12

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-03-07 at 16:39:59 PST   Listings
I just checked to see if I can upload images - yeah, ISP fixed the problem. The first order of business is to Pro.
Pro -

Aareschlucht.

The address side. I thought you would ESPECIALLY like this card.

Belated Merry Christmas.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-03-07 at 16:32:41 PST   Listings
Knud-Erik -
Of all your posts I think this is the best.
Maybe it's because I understood the story, and you showed so many examples, even I could understand. Great post!!

BTW - Happy New Year!

Roger
Posted by knuden   ( 2175 ) on Jan-03-07 at 16:10:56 PST   Listings
lluehhhb - It means by registered mail.

K.E 
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 225 ) on Jan-03-07 at 16:01:24 PST   Listings
Knuden
Do you know what's the meaning of the "doporucene" in this cover?
Posted by knuden   ( 2175 ) on Jan-03-07 at 15:39:15 PST   Listings
R is for registration labels.Now I can hear someone moan and thinking of switching over to another channel - BUT don't do it!!
These tiny thingies can be interesting, if they stay on the item where they belong.
Now take my favorite issue (one of) Sudetenland. When looking of the story of these labels one have to divide the dateline into three periods.

The provisional period:

This period is far the most interesting and starts when the German takeover Sudetenland in October 1938.

First they had to use, what there was of labels but wasn't to happy for the original bilingual labels:
Here is a bilingual label on a cover to Czechoslovakia Oct. 25, 1938.

But if you did'n like the Czech, you could delete the Czech text:
Here is a bilingual Czech label, where the Czech text was deleted, on a postal official cover from Nov. 2, 1938.

In many cities the Czech postal authorities fled to Czechoslovakia with what was of stamps, postal forms and labels. This led to a new invention - the provisional "labels":
Here is a handdrawn "label" on a domestic cover Oct. 5, 1938.
Here is another one from Nov. 10, 1938.
Here is one from Nov. 4, 1938, which show how confused the time was - By a mistage there is written E for Express (Special Delivery) in the label but looking at the postage paid, the cover was send as registered.

Then you could make your own labels:
Here is one from Oct. 24, 1938.
Here is another from Oct. 17, 1938.
One Post Office even made a registration cancel:
Here is it on a cover to Czechoslovakia Oct. 24, 1938.

Another option was to borrow a roll of neutral labels from a German Post Office and overprint it:
Here is one sent to Bohemia and moravia April 19, 1940.
Was it not possible to get neutral labels, original labels was used overprinted:
Here is one to Czechoslovakia Nov. 17, 1938.
Here is another from Nov. 9, 1938.
A few times you find them unaltered but these are rare:
Here is one from Oct. 24, 1938.
Then was there few Post Offices, which did'd added a label but the German sometimes catched them on the route to the destination:
Here is one with a label from the TPO (train) en route to Berlin Nov. 2, 1938.

But sooner or later came the happy day, when the normal German label arrived and this are the second period:

Here is one sent to Denmark Nov. 9, 1938.
Here is one sent from a small rural Post Office Febr. 4, 1942 and first at the accountant Post Office was the stamp canceled and the registration label was added.
But it was war and the German ran into more problems - paper shortage, air raids etc.
Here is a blank label of old Bavarian origin from Sept. 30, 1943, which were provisional overprinted by a handstamp.
Here is another from Aug. 10, 1944, where a fieldpost label are used and overprinted.

Then comes the third period - what hapend after the liberation, when the Czech took over again.

Well - mainly the same as before.
First provisionals again:
Here an old German overprinted with the Czech name from June 7, 1945.
Here is another from Oct. 15, 1945.
If you could find an old German neutral label it was fine:
Here is one from Nov 21, 1945.
The old prewar bilingual could be used too:
Here is one from Jan. 30, 1946.
Sooner or later it all went back to normal but this time with Czech description only - Finis Germanaie!
Here is one with the Czech normal type label from Dec. 5, 1945.

So many was the words - even smal thingies has a story! :O)

K.E 
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-03-07 at 14:47:35 PST   Listings
Aloha -
You guys just sit around all day and write about things wrong with seller's auctions. I do/did something about it - use the report button at the bottom of the auction page. You eventually get to this:
Inappropriate or excessive use of terms not relevant to the item
Email sent to eBay. Who's next? LOL

Roger
Posted by wrd3   ( 99 ) on Jan-03-07 at 13:22:39 PST   Listings
The information in Iomoon's linked auction (here)looks like a straight copy from Wikipedia.

Bill D.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 306 ) on Jan-03-07 at 13:06:43 PST   Listings
Oh my, ioJim, that really is extreme, and the links! and each link has another dozen links, talk about taking people away from the ebay site into cyberworld. !
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 225 ) on Jan-03-07 at 13:01:11 PST   Listings
That's a really useless description!
Too much free time to play with ebay on his hands....
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-03-07 at 12:38:12 PST   Listings
I think this guy may have put in appearance before, the height of superfluousness.
Or, spamming to the extreme?
Posted by bjornmu   ( 855 ) on Jan-03-07 at 12:24:27 PST   Listings
R is also for, well, R, which is the rarity rating of YTTERØEN on these stamps (strictly speaking on the 3sk or 10 øre stamps). The scale goes a,b,c,d,e,R,2R,3R,4R,5R,RR. I do own two stamps with 5R cancels.

The place is on an island (well, it IS an island) in the Trondheim Fjord, so the stamp will likely show up in a club auction in the not too distant future. :-)
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-03-07 at 12:09:20 PST   Listings
Rainer

Thanks, its been so long I wanted something and forgot about.

uppercanadian

Yep, about 7 years work.
Posted by bjornmu   ( 855 ) on Jan-03-07 at 11:57:26 PST   Listings
R is for Royaume d'Italie (Kingdom of Italy), the kingdom established by Napoleon in NE Italy from 1805 to 1814. This entire is sent from Novara via Milano to Parma sometime in 1812. The message is dated "Novara, 5th, 1812" whatever that is supposed to mean. On the reverse is a reveiver (closeup) which says "Parma (?) Gennaio", meaning January. The month is upside down, that's why I bought this as the oldest item in my collection.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 493 ) on Jan-03-07 at 11:27:02 PST   Listings
decderoo Online translations are pretty much only any good for getting the basic jist of simple sentences. But one that you may find of some use is Free Translation.com For actual International Philatelic Terms save that in your favourites.
Bob in WA That block of four item you asked about is in my opinion a forged cancel. The cancel is far too thin, the wrong colour of ink and wishful thinking on the part of the seller.
Mitch I wasn't aware you had been trying to contact me so I sent you an e-mail via ebay giving my address again.
Uppercanadian Yes Jim is the proud father and owner of the Volcano CD. It won't make him a $ millionaire but he had fun and a few years of doing the research I'm sure.
Posted by smolcott   ( 229 ) on Jan-03-07 at 11:16:06 PST   Listings
DC- There's a six language list of philatelic terms at
www.professorsoares.adv.br/filatelico.html#sectZ
Steve
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-03-07 at 11:02:44 PST   Listings
margozim & mitchell Yes. The games afoot for many moons. Can't understand how a seller of stamps can't (read won't) "learn" how to sell or use Vendio software he pays for. Plus, he has a store? Many times I have felt that he just goes through the motions and doesn't really care about his potential customers. Oh that obvious SAMOA forgery that didn't sell. Aw. What the heck. Just give this venue money.
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-03-07 at 10:39:24 PST   Listings


Many thanks willderspin

You are going to think me a pain but can i see the other side with the adverts there the one that got changed and how i can identify the card i have had
colour1.jpg colour2.jpg colour4.jpg but not colour3.jpg

D1
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-03-07 at 10:17:12 PST   Listings
Iomoon,

I noticed you were selling a Volcanoes on Stamps CD. Are you the author and compiler of it??
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-03-07 at 10:12:40 PST   Listings
I read in the newspaper today that there was a huge snow storm in the US Midwest - Oklahoma and surrounding areas. Here I am in Toronto, Ontario, going out for a smoke in the garage without even putting a jacket on. December was the warmest month since the records started being kept about 160 years ago. New Years Day beat the previous record for the warmest day by a couple of degrees. I haven't had a chance to use my snow shoes now in a couple of years. Strange weather...
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-03-07 at 09:34:21 PST   Listings
Jim L. I'm not sure if the ebay mail system is selective or not. I have tried to send 3 long emails to Infla-Alec over the last month or so. Each time
I get some sort of error message. Otherwise I can't remember having any trouble emailing anyone else (through ebay)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-03-07 at 09:29:32 PST   Listings
margozim re: your post of (Jan-03-07 at 04:59:44 PST)
I have to disagree, it is more like a few years than a week. Several years ago he use to send emails to everyone announcing his auctions. It took quite a while to get him to stop. Never seemed to get the hint about announcing them on the board.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-03-07 at 09:11:13 PST   Listings
Jim L.'s item 260070959598, a meter strip letter from COPELAND compressors in Sydney, OH, has special significance for me. Refrigeration and A/C was my trade for 21 years in NYC where I jointly owned a small commercial service company named Frozen Aire for 11 of those 21. Copeland compressors were the mainstay of the industry and even built reciprocating compressors for Carrier Corp., the developer of freon.

Van Camp Hardware & Iron Company in Indianapolis, Indiana was THE primary iron supplier who manufactured the bases the Copeland condensing units were mounted to. Copeland did not manufacture water coolers or refigerators but the union of Van Camp and Copeland provided the integral parts for all the brand name vendors of the day: Frigidaire. Norge, Kelvinator, Westinghouse, etc.

Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-03-07 at 08:18:36 PST   Listings
Jim, many sellers do just not bother to reply to inquiries.., so they loose customers...
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 821 ) on Jan-03-07 at 08:04:41 PST   Listings
Taodave,

I really like those covers, particularly the two Kionga ones. I have never seen any of those on cover!!

Cool!!

Brad
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1163 ) on Jan-03-07 at 08:02:16 PST   Listings
Thanks Rainer & Mage, your emails came through just fine, so I suspect the problem is not with the eBay system.
Jim L.
Posted by taodave   ( 135 ) on Jan-03-07 at 07:46:43 PST   Listings
R is for Relais-post.

Dr Ludwig Deppe, a physician who travelled with and ministered to the German East African Schutztruppe until the very end--- i.e. its November 1918 surrender in Rhodesia--- established a relay post using native runners in October 1916 for messages between the detachments of his field hospital. This proved to be so sucessful that it was extended to other units.

This cover, sent to Dr Deppe in Tunduru in February 1917, was processed by the Fieldpost Station at Lukuledi village which used the old Lindi canceller with yeardate removed. A notation in the LL corner reads "Relais from Tunduru 22.2.17, 6 p.m.":

http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/taodave/?action=view¤t=Relais-postA.jpg

The reverse side shows that the envelope had been used previously for a Fieldpost from Mahenge:

http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/taodave/?action=view¤t=Relais-postB.jpg

Dr Deppe apparently saved almost every scrap of paper from his stay in German East Africa; most of his surviving correspondence shows, as does this cover, post-binder holes.


taodave

Posted by ed845   ( 4258 ) on Jan-03-07 at 07:34:30 PST   Listings
Now that Rumania and Bulgaria for that matter have now joined the European Community they will soon have some of the best road networks in Europe once the EU start throwing money their way. At least they will remain for a couple of years, a good place for cheap holidays.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-03-07 at 07:25:09 PST   Listings
thanks
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-03-07 at 07:21:30 PST   Listings
Paul, 3.50 MB are on the way...
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-03-07 at 07:14:20 PST   Listings
Paul, send me an Email with your email address and they are on the way...
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-03-07 at 07:10:24 PST   Listings
RAINER-----Yes i can still use the info to write something up and identify a few items that Scott catalog doesn't mention .
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-03-07 at 07:06:40 PST   Listings
Pauly, I thought you wanted the scans of the Colombia Catalogue???
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-03-07 at 06:36:18 PST   Listings
NOIP-----Finish the Colombia pages ,altogether added 20 new pages to my collection ,a few pages for Antioquia {state of Colombia } and many pages of what looks like labels from 1860's and thru 1890's of "certication sin contenido" and "valor declarado" and also 4 pages of the rebel provisional government in Cucuta .It will be ten years before i look at them again ..lol......thats my problem ,always moving on to the next interesting philatelic item i find .....paul
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-03-07 at 06:26:51 PST   Listings
DE66

here you go...

cover
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-03-07 at 06:20:21 PST   Listings
iomoon, yes, the link in your watch page will show by default "view relisted item".
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-03-07 at 06:16:17 PST   Listings
When someone relists an unsold item, does it show as relisted on your watch page?

Posted by xzephyr   ( 980 ) on Jan-03-07 at 06:07:50 PST   Listings
...never throws ANY stamps away!
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-03-07 at 06:07:35 PST   Listings
Good day all.

R is for Ranjani.
Posted by xzephyr   ( 980 ) on Jan-03-07 at 06:07:06 PST   Listings
Roger

It will be no comfort to your folk at IE’s upgrades, but I am glad to hear that it is not me or my computer but others have the same or similar problems!

David B

I have no experience of roads in Rumania but I have noticed that the drivers of the 9 ton transports that take the medical goods and food there are very careful to pack their lorries so that the contents cannot move! Another lorry going in February. I am amazed at the items discarded by hospitals and food giants here – even 7 pallets of pasta which would otherwise have gone to landfill, just because they were all wrongly labeled. One lorry took £50,000 value of medical aids and equipment. No wonder the NHS here is running at a deficit!

However, now that Rumania is in the EEC, we may find that the skilled people come to other countries, leaving Rumania even worse off for trained personnel. GB seems to be saying that only those with skills we need will be allowed in.

Thanks to those who may have missed my comments. I wonder what will happen to Rumanian stamps? My collection is meager, to put it mildly.

Colin, who never throws and stamps away!

Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-03-07 at 05:35:44 PST   Listings
What have you found to be the best "translator" site?
I'm particularly interested in German-to-English and French-to-English.
My experiences indicate translators don't handle philatelic jargon well, but I'd like to get some results that with a bit of brainwork I can understand in a philatelic context.
Posted by 22028   ( 1537 ) on Jan-03-07 at 05:17:14 PST   Listings
Jim, I just sent a test mail thru your After Shave Lotion item...
Posted by margozim   ( 4 ) on Jan-03-07 at 04:59:44 PST   Listings
prochute:

I have to agree with you. DJS has done little more than advertise his own auctions for a week. If comments like "am hoping to have more bids when all
of the auctions end" and "hopefully more people will bid on them before they end next week" AREN'T solicitations, then I don't know what is. He pretends to seek "advice" in his posts, but I think it is a ruse to advertise his auctions, particularly because he is so relentless about them.

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1161 ) on Jan-03-07 at 04:40:40 PST   Listings
Greetings again,
Is anyone else having trouble with sending questions to sellers via eBay?
Right now I've a seller that's not responded to 4 emails sent over three days.

If someone wishes to go to one of my lots that's up at the moment and use the link to send me an email I'd appreciate it.
Jim L.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1161 ) on Jan-03-07 at 04:34:31 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


In keeping with the "R" theme here’s a rather interesting Indiana Precancel. Rome City 723 is one of the hard to get types due to a disaster that destroyed the Post Office. Before that happened someone got in and made a very few favor cancels on non-US stamps, here’s one of them on an Indiana Intangible tax stamp.

Jim L.
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 23:50:58 PST   Listings
Matt… Also, Google says Camp Wallace Texas was used as a POW internment camp, presumably for Germans and other Europeans. I haven’t heard of it that I can remember.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-02-07 at 22:45:39 PST   Listings
Nice going, Bill. I mailed it to myself at the post office, where I know many of the clerks. It went out to get the roller cancel at the distribution center at the edge of town, and was back in my box (well, a slip to go to the counter) on Monday, the first day of the new rate. I affixed the stamps to pay the postage due, and he let me apply the CDS cancels myself! Nice specialty item for a semi-postal collector, with two copies of the same stamp worth different values on the same cover!

And you're 2 for 2, on the twins also. Exactly right, born traveling west on a train or plane, so the first is born shortly after midnight on Jan 1, then the vehicle crosses to before midnight, still Dec 31, before the second is born.

Alec -- Any comments on 160067357315 ?

Bob in WA
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Jan-02-07 at 22:26:56 PST   Listings
Ah, I see now. Bob's cover was deficiently mailed before the rate increase ($0.37 postage on, $0.46 missing for the 2-3 ounce weight). The $0.46 was paid by use of a $0.39 stamp, plus the $0.05 and $0.02. The first semipostals were used at both the $0.37 rate (Jan 7th) and at the $0.39 rate (Jan 9th).

Of course, this begs the question: How did you get USPS to actually mark as postage due?
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 22:09:57 PST   Listings
willderspin

Yes please i am atempting to date the copies i have recorded you can send any size file to revenue@revenuesociety.org.uk

Cheers

D1
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 22:08:17 PST   Listings
Thanks mini
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 22:04:36 PST   Listings
Matt… Ielfield is inextricably entwined with Columbia. Since Ielfield was performing all the maintenance on Columbia machines at one point, any combination could have occurred, at almost any place. Also, I don’t agree with Hanmer’s characterization that Ielfield postmarks are “crude”. The bars in the killers definitely are thicker, but I don’t think they can be labeled less professionally done.

I have ordered the Machine Cancel Society’s latest 350+ page identifier, which should get to me before the end of the month. (I bought the only color copy that exists, from the guy who put it together.) When it comes I will look up Ielfield for a better grasp of where exactly they operated, and better illustrations than Hanmer provides. (I believe the killers on page 103 were drawn in freehand—the example on page 102 has a decent looking killer, compare that with the ones on page 103.)

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by keleofa   ( 3327 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:49:43 PST   Listings
Brad,

Very nice essay cards. I don't know anything about them but there are several CSA specialists that lurk here -- keep checking back for an answer.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:44:16 PST   Listings
I have these Confederate stamp cards. They seem to be of a fairly high quality. Have a look here.

What is the origin of these. Would there be much interest on Ebay for these. I have never come across them before.

Thanks,

Brad

Posted by keleofa   ( 3327 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:29:01 PST   Listings
Roly,

India - Hyderabad (Deccan), official stamp, issue of 1934-37, minimal value.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by keleofa   ( 3327 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:24:37 PST   Listings
Jim,

This past Saturday I won an auction lot at a general auction -- about 200 covers from Nebraska, 1930-1940s. Mostly machine cancels. There is such a variety of dials and killers. Some of the ends go straight, some go up, some go down. I think as the machines get serviced dies are inverted or changed out with dies that fit but differ in some details.

I was hoping for some uncommon towns, DPOs, RPOs, better NEBR overprints and such, but mostly common cancels and towns such as Leigh, Clarkson, Madison, Howells, Crete and so on.

There was a cover postmarked 'Camp Wallace, Texas', Dec 19th 1941. Couldn't find out much about it. Do you know anything about Camp Wallace postmarks?

Matt in Arizona
Posted by rolyrj   ( 2 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:24:01 PST   Listings
Can anyone help with this please...........
Interested in Country?
Is it overprinted, if so what?
And the cancel?
Thanks, in advance
Roly

Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:21:54 PST   Listings
Steve -- No, the 46¢ is correct, but you are right about the over 2 ounces. Check the dates.

Bob in WA
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:20:32 PST   Listings
figmente -
Ah! But I believe you searched the US category, when some of the best buys are those auctions where the seller has listed in the wrong category, but gives a good description in the item description box.

Ebay Germany is especially interesting because so many sellers pick a country category then don't mention the name of the country in their title. This makes postal history seaches real interesting if one's seach finds a rare receiver on inbound mail when the seller lists the cover, for example, in the Cuba category, but mentions in the description it went to Bellinzona, Svizzera. My searches find that cover, but staying within the country category of Switzerland would not. This is the fun of eBay.

Roger

Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:12:09 PST   Listings
D1 I just sent the scans in 2 emails... :o)
Posted by keleofa   ( 3327 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:11:25 PST   Listings
Jim,

Thanks. Ielfield? Maybe. The # 3 (dial) with the #1 (killer). The note says there was such a thing as Columbia-Ielfields. Also, all of the Ielfield's are from the Northeast.

In Hanmer, look at Columbia dial 1 (variety) and killer 7, Int'l Dial 7 Killer 6, and similar Universals.

Matt in Arizona
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-02-07 at 21:04:55 PST   Listings
de66 I can, but all it is, is the cover. You still want it?
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 20:58:08 PST   Listings
Matt in AZ… I think your cancel might be an Ielfield. Look here—the bars go straight as they trail off the edge. The only killer I know of like that was used by Ielfield. Look in Hanmer, Ielfield #1.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by smolcott   ( 229 ) on Jan-02-07 at 20:52:10 PST   Listings
rcla--

Looks like should have been 48c due, 39c plus 24x2 for over 2 ounces.
Steve
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Jan-02-07 at 20:36:07 PST   Listings
Bob, couldn't the younger twin be born earlier than the older if they crossed a time zone boundary between births? Suppose they were on a train or plane at the time...

On your rate quiz, did the sender expect the two semi-postals to be worth their cost ($0.45), rather than the current first class rate? Though I don't see why that would give a $0.46 deficit, and the stamp is still valid for postage.
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 20:31:03 PST   Listings
willderspin

Any chance of a scan of the other side of the colour chart

D1
Posted by keleofa   ( 3327 ) on Jan-02-07 at 20:11:22 PST   Listings
USA Machine Cancel question...

Clarkson, Nebraska 1933

Who's machine? Columbia? International? Universal?

Note the small year, 9 - AM, month jammed up under the town.

TIA,

Matt in Arizona

Posted by 22028   ( 1536 ) on Jan-02-07 at 20:04:14 PST   Listings
figmente, the China-Tibet set looks OK to me (I had it on my watch list just to follow it..). There are several expertizer for these stamps...
Posted by 22028   ( 1536 ) on Jan-02-07 at 19:59:56 PST   Listings
Maarten, Triangle Alarm..., nice Liberia triangle cover..
http://cgi.ebay.com/Liberia-Monrovia-to-S-A-overland-1937_W0QQitemZ120070976657
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-02-07 at 19:55:03 PST   Listings
BOB I dont know much about modern USA rates, but guess would be oversized letter, so the 39c FIRST CLASS stamp was insufficient, so it was Taxed at 46c, and they used another FIRST CLASS + OTHERS to pay the additional charges ?
Posted by figmente   ( 872 ) on Jan-02-07 at 19:40:52 PST   Listings
Tibet set w/fish. How narrow (or not) would the list of trusted expertizers be for such?

malolo - I can't resist 2 disagreements with your listing critique.
1- While I can believe the claim that Scott catalog numbers in the title may be of little value when offering stamps of many countries, for US singles I believe around 99% of the market would find them meaningful. I'm pretty confident that, if I were looking to buy any solo members of that set, then searching titles with just the scott catalog number such as 231 could be expected to yield over 90% of the desired listings, with few inapplicable items, whereas searching columbian1893 would miss many and bring a lot of unrelated listings.
2. I prefer the abbreviations OG, MH, NH or MNH to spelling those things out, as conveying just as much information much more tersely, without loss of audience, and more likely to be used in search. I sometimes include those in searches, but appoximately never would use "original", "gum", "hinged", or "never".
Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-02-07 at 19:40:00 PST   Listings
Lindy -- That's really interesting, though I must wonder who would make the bets (schoolchildren, I presume?) as it is obvious that twins aren't born simultaneously and there is a point in time (midnight) when the date progresses. Now, if the bet had included the younger twin being born in the earlier year, I could understand getting some betting action. Care to explain how that could be possible?

No takers on my rate question at 16:11:15 ?

Bob in WA
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1161 ) on Jan-02-07 at 19:26:28 PST   Listings
In keeping with the "R" theme here’s an event cover from the 1987 Covered Bridge festive in Rockville, Indiana.

Guess who I though of when I saw this card? :8^ )

Jim L.

Posted by 1covers   ( 1265 ) on Jan-02-07 at 18:56:53 PST   Listings
David - what you should learn about color is that you should always assume that what you have is the most common variety/shade unless you have a compelling reason to conclude otherwise.

Some catalogs, particularly Gibbons, compound shade and color varieties beyond those that correspond to distinct printings. This was started ages ago to increase the number of product units that could be sold.

A look at the Nova Scotia exhibit here in comparison with the Gibbons listings of shades is constructive. Gibbons listings are utter nonsense.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-02-07 at 18:55:30 PST   Listings
djs127 I think you are again, soliciting your auctions. That is clearly against the rules and perhaps you should stop discussing your auctions in your posts!
Posted by djs127   ( 531 ) on Jan-02-07 at 18:22:18 PST   Listings
I did not realize my question yesterday about the color of one stamp would generate such an interesting discussion on stamp colors. I have learnt a lot.
Should be interesting to see how many of my auctions from last Wednesday's 15 cent listing day sell tomorrow. So far I am happy with the results but am hoping to have more bids when all
of the auctions end.
A few of the 99 cent auctions I uploaded last night have 1 bid hopefully more people will bid on them before they end next week.
David Snyder
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Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-02-07 at 17:57:41 PST   Listings
mini-lady

I was being sarcastic, I feel that SG does a poor job of listening, so reflect it in my communications about them.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-02-07 at 17:46:34 PST   Listings
willderspin that strip I posted yesterday of the blues was from such a Stanley Gibbons chart, which they published right up to the start of WWII- when he (Edward Stanley Gibbons..one man, not 2), was by no means "still in shorts.." he was born in 1840 and began selling stamps in 1856 from his father's chemist shop, his first price list was published in 1865, he died in London in 1913.

Bob in WA my sister went to school with twin boys born each side of NYear in the early 1950s.. they won many bets about being twins born on different years!

Linda
Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-02-07 at 17:28:27 PST   Listings
News just had a story of twins born two minutes apart -- in two different years! One first baby of the year, one tax deduction!

Bob in WA
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-02-07 at 17:22:43 PST   Listings
wow that was quick - ebay removed the offending post within minutes
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-02-07 at 17:14:20 PST   Listings
glitterauctions

I have reported your post to ebay.
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-02-07 at 17:08:26 PST   Listings
COLOR

I have a dislike of the current SG color guide as I feel it is out of whack and irrelevant. I also agree with all the comments about the value of color charts...

however...

back when Stanley and Gibbons were still in shorts they had a little more integrity and produces slightly better color charts which more acurately reflected their color descriptions. Here are the links to download their early color charts, I think you will agree they will be of use. I should warn you, each of them are 4.5MB large

color chart 1


color chart 2

Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1161 ) on Jan-02-07 at 16:57:58 PST   Listings
In keeping with the "R" theme here’s what should be a common dated. Click here it’s from Dave Smith’s mail bid precancel auction when he was in Rochester, Indiana. You had to win a lot heavy enough for the postage to go over $1.00 to get one of these. There is quite the run of dates and varieties for the handstamp collector and the General Indiana collector to chase. They are beginning to gradually make their way our of the bidders hands and into other collectors hands.

Jim L.

Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-02-07 at 16:37:45 PST   Listings
I'm still ISP-less so can't add images to any of my posts.

I would at this point show a couple of GB GV values where different shades are listed in the catalogues. It always help to have dated cancels to confirm shades which have differing values. Or I could show some Sitting Helvetia shades, or Strubel shades through the 1850's. Sorry, I'll have to keep you in the dark.

Colin -
It is interesting at work that we have members of what is called the National Screening Force. They are airport screeners who move around the country as necessary to supplement the manpower requirements at airports unable to fully staff via local hiring. We are one such airport.
We have an online training website which is available to all screeners to increase their knowledge. These "NSF's" spend a lot of time in hotel rooms, so spend a lot of time online and increase their knowledge of TSA procedures. Recently some of these employees upgraded their computers to IE 7.0 and immediatey lost the ability to go to the online learning center. So much for progress and th elimitations of certain website designers. BTW - I'm totally out of the picture because there is no support for Apple, zero, nada!

Roger
Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-02-07 at 16:11:15 PST   Listings
R is for RATE. This one could also have been posted under P for Puzzle. What is the total value of the postage? Answer to follow.

Bob in WA
Posted by collectiblehope   ( 138 ) on Jan-02-07 at 15:19:09 PST   Listings
Thanks,

I will put them on tonight, just want to get these gone, I have been putting it off for too long.........

Thanks and have a good New Year......
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-02-07 at 15:17:09 PST   Listings
collectiblehope Yes, that will be the easiest way for you to proceed. Make sure you list it under U.S. "back of book". You should not lose any sleep or money. The lot will most probably go for just a few dollars. I would not waste my time with extra listing fees or reruns. If there is something good in there, "they will come".
Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-02-07 at 15:07:28 PST   Listings
Oops, I guess the pic wasn't available for direct linking. I saved it and went through 666 for another try. It's a big file (450k+) but a rather nice image.

BASTILLE

Bob in WA
Posted by collectiblehope   ( 138 ) on Jan-02-07 at 15:05:10 PST   Listings
Thanks so much antonius-ra

So if someone wanted to see just one stamp in particular, then I can just email them a picture correct.

This will be easiest for me.
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-02-07 at 15:01:12 PST   Listings
Collectiblehope Take a decent scan of the whole lot and run it in one auction. Chances are, there is not much of value, if there is no doubt several will see it and bid it up.

Can anyone verify that this is a Three Rivers Michigan cancel? If it is, what sort of premium would it add to the stamp.
Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:59:05 PST   Listings
R is for REUNION, and also Registered, Recommande, Republic of France, and the French REVOLUTION depicted on the stamp showing the Storming of the Bastille. These semi-postals were issued in 1939 (1789 + 150 years) in sets of 5 stamps for each of 24 French colonies, with a 6th airmail added in 8 of them, a challenging enough 128 stamps to find, and much more so on cover. If you look closely at bottom center, you can see the small stone bridge over the moat that qualifies these for my bridge collection. There may be a bit of artistic license, comparing the stamp image to this engraving and map of the BASTILLE, but I assume there was actually a moat and bridge there.

Bob in WA
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:58:21 PST   Listings
Colin,

those White Maltese Cross cancels deserve a better name, I was thinking of Double Cross,

talking about Romania, my friend sent me some photos of the traffic in Bucharest. it looks like there is a traffic jam in the city which starts about 7AM. and finished about 9PM. For a country that used to have little private ownership of vehicles that now has a huge private ownership without the road system being upgraded to meet the demand.

David B.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:53:59 PST   Listings
Colin, lovely to see you here, happy new year to you too!


ok D1 will do!

Posted by collectiblehope   ( 138 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:49:40 PST   Listings
Hi all,

I have about 50 or 60 Internal revenue, propriety, documentary stamps. All different colors, pink, orange, green, blue, brown, tan. All ranging from under a penny to $10.00.

There is George Washington, ships, etc. Most of them are of George Washington.

I want to sell these, but have no idea how to sell them, I don't want to sell them individually, I will be here for weeks trying to picture them and put them on, that is not for me. I want to know how is the best. Should I put all of them on at once, should I put them on as the type of stamp. I don't know and I will probably have an anxiety attack just thinking about it.

I want it to be easy for me and I want someone who collects these to get a good deal. I am not asking for alot of money for these.

What do you think I should do???
Posted by xzephyr   ( 980 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:42:20 PST   Listings
Colours of stamps

I have always understood that colour charts are a bit of a waste of time. First, because the colours stated in catalogues are comparisons with other shades of the same stamp, so a light blue would be lighter than the darker one. Hence you cannot compare a light blue stamp from one set, even to a light blue one of a different value in the same set, far less for stamps of different sets or countries.

Second, because some stamps have had innumerable printings and the number of stamps in the catalogue may only have say three or four shades, but with perhaps 12 or more printings, different printings are lumped together into one of the four shades. The only way to really distinguish the stamps is to have the cylinder blocks, or in the case of GB, the Warrant Blocks which give the date of the printing. You only have to look at GB Ed 7th ½d green, or the NZ 1d red universal postage (and that’s ignoring the different papers) to realize it is pretty well impossible to put every printing into its correct category.

However, there is good news. The values of the different shades in the catalogue will tell you which stamp you have. In my experience, every time I am in doubt, I have always found that I have the one of lower value!

Therefore I have never used a colour chart in my 60 + years of collecting, and I feel sure that in buying stamps on eBay the stamp will ALWAYS be the one of lesser value, even if the optimistic seller states it is rare.

I was highly amused at the white Maltese cross on early GB stamps. In spite of what the seller says, any catalogue that even considered putting such a “variety” in their lists would be laughed out of court.

Oh, by the way, I still read the board (almost) daily, though I do miss some of the posts, but I am “resting” from selling and buying and so log on rather less especially as since I accepted Microsoft’s generous offer to upgrade to the latest version of Internet Explorer my computer often decides that it is not worth while logging on, whatever I want to do. I am very active and have developed a new occupation of being a warehouse labourer for a charity that sends medical and food aid mainly to Rumania and I am as healthy as anyone of my age can expect to be!

A belated Happy New Year anyway, to all our readers.

Past my bedtime now so ‘nite all - I’ll try to get back here tomorrow.

Colin the realist

Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:40:53 PST   Listings
roger,

that site should be mandatory for all Ebay stamp buyers & sellers,

I have sent the Romanian section to a friend for his comments. I know there is a Romanian site that deals with some of the issues but the German site looks better,

Alec,

I still haven't heard about the Afghan items, will try to chase up an answer today but it is difficult getting a philatelic query answered by someone who became a 1st. time Grandmother the same day I asked about the items,

David B.
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:34:02 PST   Listings
jaywild, those revenues of yours are particularly nice.
I can imagine you spent a considerable amount of time locating one with centering that good.
And the imperfs and part perfs seem to have enough margin to remove them from questionable.

I too am particularly fussy about my First Issue revenues and have been working on them for a long time.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:24:53 PST   Listings
R is for Royal Castle.
Though several printers are missing.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:24:27 PST   Listings
D1 Thanks. It is the only revenue stamp I could find that would fit into the "R" theme.
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:20:27 PST   Listings
Roger... Weird, now the link works.
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:17:58 PST   Listings
This auction would never show up in a title search for “official”, since the moax that wrote it used a zero instead of an O.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:09:04 PST   Listings
NOIP -

A neat link to fakes and forgeries - in German, but enough images to keep anyone busy for a couple of hours. http://www.pro-philatelie.de/

jaywild - not sure why link doesn't work for you. Just Google "ultramarine" and it's about the third link down.

I made a nice discovery last night. The Swiss auction company to whom I sent a variety of items has posted its catalogue and my lots have bids of $1400. The best return will be an 1882 cover that I bought on eBay for $1.50 opens at 100 SF ($82.40), followed by a $5.00 cover that will open at 150SF. )'>) These are all items not in my collecting area, just htings I saw and thought to myself, "I've never seen that before."

Roger
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:05:04 PST   Listings
Alec

Yep it qualifies. Perfin guys will have no interest the perfin actually cuts the value of the Mayors Court issues by 90% i.e. comman as.

D1
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 14:02:18 PST   Listings
mini Yes please all of it to: revenue@revenuesociety.org.uk

D1
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Jan-02-07 at 13:54:47 PST   Listings
D1 Does this qualify as a Mayors Court Revenue ? The perfin guys might also like it.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-02-07 at 13:48:33 PST   Listings
D1 Dave OK I'll scan them today. Front and Back, do you want the 2 inside covers too, 2 pages of explanations etc...

L.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-02-07 at 13:21:35 PST   Listings
D1, thanks, you answered my question before I asked, it seems unusual that they used the 19th. Century style of dating embossed revenues although a Million Pounds would have bought a lot in 1898 most probably Buck House or Windsor Whatever if they were up for sale,

David B.
Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-02-07 at 13:21:04 PST   Listings
R is for REPUBLIC of Hawaii, which appellation is only found on one postage stamp, the 12¢ blue depicting the ''S.S. Arawa'' from a set of six stamps issued in 1894. Four of the others (including the 1¢ on this cover) just say ''Hawaii'', and the 5¢ says ''Hawaiian Islands Postage''. I think there may be some revenues with the word Republic, but this is the only POSTAGE stamp.

This cover doesn't fit any of my collections, except a dream of some day starting to accumulate one nice commercial cover from each former and present stamp-issuing entity. I mainly bought it many years ago for the ''stamps I like'' collection, that I presume each of us has.

Bob in WA
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-02-07 at 13:19:18 PST   Listings
D1, Is the date on the Hi Value 1898 or 1998,

David B.
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 13:14:02 PST   Listings
The date is 18 August 1998 and NOT 1898
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 13:12:46 PST   Listings
R for Revenue

£1.000.000.00 Is this the worlds highest face value revenue?

Can anybody top it?

I have just loaded it up onto The Revenue Society web site home page http://www.revenuesociety.org.uk/

D1
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 12:57:40 PST   Listings
Hmm nice rugs 1cov wonder what they would fetch on todays market?

Remember Alec you 1st heard about the Persian rugs from an Aussie, now i am sure you will not want that spread around even as a pommie!

D1
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Jan-02-07 at 12:18:24 PST   Listings
Must admit until Richard showed that link I was busy trying to figure out what the hell a Persian rug had to do with US stamps. First time I've ever seen any of those so thanks for the showing.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Jan-02-07 at 12:15:53 PST   Listings
blueff Can I ask where you are getting your information as to values from ?
Once you are able to make scans a far more informative and detailed advice can be given here. If you need help in learning how to post a link here please ask. Or read the yellow box link further down which has a lot of helpful advice for beginners and experts alike.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1265 ) on Jan-02-07 at 12:09:54 PST   Listings
de2 - from a broichure I did in 1986. The two prettiest stamps I ever handled. Purchased from a decendant of Erastus Corning (JC cancel on stamps).
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:49:12 PST   Listings
Porn on eBay...

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:44:29 PST   Listings
NOIP,

when discussing colors you must differentiate between shades and deliberate color changes. Deliberate color changes were authorised by the printers or the Post Offices. Shades are just variances between different printings and were caused unintentionally because of ink supply, ink mixing, pressure of the printing plate, wear of the printing plate or a myriad of other reasons and general catalogues tend not to mention them although specialised catalogues and literature can and will differentiate them as long as they can allocate a name for them.
Because Germany dominated the printing ink market for most of the late 19th. Century & early 20th. Century stamp printers relied on German ink supply for their regularity in color and when supply was halted during WWI (1914-1918 for British Commonwealth and I presume later for the US as it did not enter the war against Germany until 1917) it caused a major problem for stamp printers which then either used local supplies or mixed colors hoping to emulate the colors.

David B.
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:43:42 PST   Listings
de66… Alas, I have no Persian rug revenues. They are quite pricey, even for me.

J

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by blueff102   ( 0 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:21:05 PST   Listings
at the moment I am unable to scan any of the stamps but will be able to do that very soon. I am not sure if i should keep them or sell them on ebay or not.
Posted by blueff102   ( 0 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:18:10 PST   Listings
I have U.S. stamps in the 1966 edition book. with duck stamps, postage due stamps, and so on. I also have other books with many diferant countries.
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:12:04 PST   Listings
Mini

All my 3 colour charts do not have any 8512/38 after HARRISON AND SONS LTD.LONDON one has 5927V.

If you get a chance a full scan would be nice as i would like to record possible a new cover, if you get chance please send to me revenue address as it has a huge capacity.
revenue@revenuesociety.org.uk

D1
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:06:46 PST   Listings
R for Revenue should flush out a Persian rug or two, so where are they?

D1
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:06:17 PST   Listings
blueff102… What countries are the stamps from? Can you scan some and post links to the scans?

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:05:00 PST   Listings
Roger I can't get your wikipedia link to work.
Posted by blueff102   ( 0 ) on Jan-02-07 at 11:03:44 PST   Listings
I am in need of some help in understanding stamps. I have been given a small collection of stamps and have no idea what to do with them. I have done some resurch and found that some are worth alot and some worth a little, but still I dont know much about them can anyone help me in this matter?
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 10:58:53 PST   Listings
R is for Revenue. Here are a few items from my collection.

  • R53b, the “b” designation meaning “part perforated”, i.e. the straight edges at top and bottom. These are usually the rarest (although not in this case), the other two types being imperforate and perforated all the way around. This stamps bears what looks like an October 5, 1864 cancel, a serendipitous bonus.
  • R63c, with a tidy Customhouse CDS.
  • R69a. This stamp was pen canceled, as most early revenue stamps were, on June 30, 1863, when two immense armies were converging on the sleepy Pennsylvania town of Gettysburg.
  • R78a, unremarkable except for its lovely color, to me at least.
  • R85a, featuring George Washington badly in need of a shave.
  • R91a, a mortgage revenue.
  • R101c, one of my favorites. A beautiful design, in my opinion.
  • R144, 2nd issue revenues, the first of the two-tones, all blue and black.
  • R142. The 3rd Revenue issues, same designs as the 2nd issues, got away from the blue and black, this example being orange and black.
  • R144, in green and black.
  • R146, in claret and black, a very lovely stamp.
  • R149, 3rd issue again, green and black.
  • R131. The $20 through $50 denominations were only issued in blue and black.
US revenues were implemented to tax a myriad of transactions for the purpose of financing the American Civil War, the Union part anyway, a tremendously costly undertaking, although this means of gathering revenue continued long past the war, and some aspects continue to this day, taxes on cigarettes for instance.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by lluehhhb   ( 225 ) on Jan-02-07 at 10:41:06 PST   Listings
Thank you jimbo for your help!
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-02-07 at 10:39:41 PST   Listings
Aloha -
My contribution to the color debate.
Forget color descriptions in catalogues for other than basic description. Many colors in Zumstein are different in Scott. Why? I'm convinced Scott wants to maintain its listings copyright, so invented color descriptions of stamps that can be enforced.

My suggestion to anyone interested in color is to study art color wheels and learn what color mixes produce standard names. Usually it is the base pigment that creates the color name, then additional colors create the new color. There should be no debate between red, crimson, scarlet, wine, maroon, vermillion, lilac, violet, etc. If one knows the origin of ultramarine, then blue scan be distiguished.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramarine

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-02-07 at 10:24:35 PST   Listings
vinny -
I didn’t mean to imply you were being offensive, the opposite actually. Sometimes people here get real defensive when one of their auctions is used as an example. I think real examples are much better than hypothetical ones.
Anyway, the 2¢ Columbian is the current example. )’>)
I know it’s second guessing, but here’s how I would have presented your stamps.
1. Only offered the “good” stamp singly.
2. Made the scan larger using the whole space available.
3. Title: US 1893 2¢ Columbian, original gum, hinged.
In the description: Repeat title and include Scott number

I believe by including the second stamp with an obvious fault you brought into question the quality of the “good” stamp. It would have been better to add a scan of the back than a word description.

I run into word description problems all the time when looking for razor cancels on postcards. Example: There is a town view of Basel, Switzerland, dated by the sender 4/11/98 (November 4, 1898). The description reads “View of Basel used to US.”
Now I can see it’s used, I can see the picture that it’s of Basel and the writer dated the card, and I know it will have either two green 5 centimes stamps or one red 10 centimes stamp. What I really want to see is the cancel, and, if it was a razor cancel, I’d probably bid $25 for that time period. As is said a picture is worth a thousand words and in the case of PC sellers half of their potential market is not included for want of a scan. And rarely do they respond to emails asking for a scan. Those sellers who include a scan of both sides should know I look at every single auction in their listings that appear promising by their title description. The year date is most important. Hypothetical example:
1. Switzerland Basel View 1898 to US
2. Description includes:
Date: November 4, 1898.
Destination: Kalispel, Montana,
Any extra markings, receiver etc: Received 10 December, 1898, forwarded to Alpine, Texas, December 25, 1898. Letter describes new volcano eruption near Lake Lucerne.

Roger
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-02-07 at 09:57:00 PST   Listings
Rainer… Your Tibet items are truly amazing. Where did you find all this material? I am always fascinated by the things you show.

You too Mitch!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-02-07 at 09:55:48 PST   Listings
knuden, thanks.
That makes sense.
I guess that's what the "Wz. 2" means. Watermark #2. (Found them! Inside the front cover.)
Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-02-07 at 09:54:07 PST   Listings
alec Early France is one of the best examples of stamps with many different shades. This is one of 5 pages I have on this particular stamp (1854 20c). I do collect shades for most countries at least for the 19th century. Usually I will simply put them under the primary stamp in a collection. When I get to many I make a seperate page for them.
Posted by knuden   ( 2175 ) on Jan-02-07 at 09:47:04 PST   Listings
dcderoo - stehend and liegend is in this case about the orientation of the watermark.

K.E 
Posted by dcderoo   ( 1640 ) on Jan-02-07 at 09:37:46 PST   Listings
Here's a section of the Michel catalogue.
I've figured out that stehend and liegend have to do with the paper.
stehend is "standing" (vertical grain?) and liegend is "lying" (horizontal grain?).

What do I look for to differentiate the two?

Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Jan-02-07 at 09:04:56 PST   Listings
Chris/chk999 From a Spanish specialist collector friend he recommends you try and obtain,
" Shelley, R. The Postal History Of The Spanish Civil War 1936-1939, (Nationalist and Republican issues; cancels, military markings, other forces in Spain), 1967."
It is in English and should prove very useful if interested in that area.
Posted by soggy333   ( 52 ) on Jan-02-07 at 08:43:55 PST   Listings
Paul
That colorwheel thingy is just the ticket. Shows shades and hues etc. The new Scott should also include the international universal code number for each color (for specialists).
Posted by soggy333   ( 52 ) on Jan-02-07 at 08:39:09 PST   Listings
color
The only reason anyone ever made color guides for stamp collectors was because catalogs could only be made in black and white.We do not need color guides forever in that old obsolete format which has pepetuated tranlation errors and confusion. Now that Scott(and the others) are printed all in color, and not too bad for the modern years, all they need to do is improve on the older items,and add in a picture for each listed color shade.It does not matter at all (for now) that Scott,Gibbons,Michel and everyone else uses a different word to describe the same color.As soon as SOMEONE publishes an accurate color picture of every stamp and shade ever issued is published, all will revise their descriptive words to a universal standard.Once the color of each stamp is universally known, picking a descriptive word such as "dark blue""light blue""prussian blue" will be easy. That will be progress for stamp collecting.By the way, I always wondered why the Prussians had their own blue! Probably derived from prussic acid anyway.I just hope red and rouge and rot are the same and we won't start another war over it.
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-02-07 at 07:43:33 PST   Listings
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Robison & Co. was a relatively small local post in Brooklyn, New York. Elliott Perry located three Robisons in the city directory listings who were in the express business: Cornelius D. Robison at 140 Chambers, 1857-58, Francis Robison at 707 Greenwich, 1857-58, and William Robison at 64 Cedar, 1852-53. It is not known which, if any, of these men was the proprietor.




The most famous example of the Robison & Co. local-post stamp is the one tied on cover to Jas. H. Watson, 231 Henry Street in Brooklyn. The cover was discovered circa 1895 by F. E. Kneeland Jr., a Brooklyn teen-aged boy who found it while searching through a relative's papers. It passed to Ferrary, then to Caspary, and was later to become one of the cornerstones of the Boker collection. Other examples of Robison & Co.'s stamp must have been discovered in the 1860's, because catalogues published in 1864 and 1865 contain listings for a Robison & Co. post.




Records contain eight examples of 128L1, including seven off cover and the one on cover.

Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-02-07 at 06:46:47 PST   Listings
Good day all.

From a dry but windy Longisland.
R is for Ryukyu Islands
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1161 ) on Jan-02-07 at 06:30:20 PST   Listings
Greetings
and an Indiana "Good Morning"
to you all


ISP tells me that a phone line was cut and getting spliced is what was keeping their subscribers off line. :8^ (


In keeping with the "R" theme here’s a Richmond 204 on a 2 cent red Washington. It shows an early example of the missing bottom bar. It’s very likely that a printer removed it so the plate of 100 subjects would fit on the press at hand. What I like about this stamp is the margins, they are wider than usual. click here . Feel free to have fun typing the stamp.


Here’s a Richmond 243 on post card. Not something you see much. click here .


The bluish precancel here is a provisional Richmond type that’s not listed on piece. click here .

Jim L.
Posted by 22028   ( 1536 ) on Jan-02-07 at 06:13:23 PST   Listings
Well, even from the thumbnails of parts of my Tibet collection you see that Tibet can be colorful..., now, how you wanna name the shades? Thats why for Tibet stamps a coded color system (Methuen) is used.
http://fuchs-online.com/tibetsammlung/03.htm
http://fuchs-online.com/tibetsammlung/04.htm
http://fuchs-online.com/tibetsammlung/05.htm
http://fuchs-online.com/tibetsammlung/09.htm
http://fuchs-online.com/tibetsammlung/10.htm
http://fuchs-online.com/tibetsammlung/11.htm
http://fuchs-online.com/tibetsammlung/12.htm
http://fuchs-online.com/tibetsammlung/13.htm
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Jan-02-07 at 06:01:03 PST   Listings
Prochute Exactly. Plus there is no way I can see all the different catalogue colour guides ever coming to agree on one universal guide that collectors worldwide can use. But even with such guides more often than not no two people will agree anyway on what is what.

Then on top of that as I said before you have all the specialist sub categorized colours, together with all those that don't fall in as an exact colour match.

How many here actually collect stamps by specialist colour variations ? Perhaps a few can scan and show some examples from different countries to show what a minefield this field can be ? I'm not refering to mint copies but rather used examples which I feel are far more difficult to determine for many previously stated reasons. ie different papers, inks, immersion in water etc.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-02-07 at 05:48:52 PST   Listings
Under NO circumstances should a named color be equated with the same named color from different countries. They are not the same colors and not the same ink formulation.

Scarce shades are uncommon and will generally jump out at the viewer who is educated and has seen many examples of the common stamp.

uppercanadian et, al Scott does have a color guide but it is for classic US only.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-02-07 at 05:40:03 PST   Listings
color----During breakfest this morning {i was cooking ,wife was getting dress for work}told my wife what we were talking about and she went to her room and brought this out .Its the color wheel with the numbers used by printers and becoming a standard in the art world . COLORWHEEL THINGY....paul
Posted by philaweb   ( 181 ) on Jan-02-07 at 03:26:42 PST   Listings
Perfect gift to collector of modern US who thinks he has everything.
Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Jan-02-07 at 02:46:44 PST   Listings
D1 - Congrats on your winning Q entry. It shows just how well pigs can fly!

Here's an R entry for you that's close to home..... Rainbow Creek, where a group of farmers in Victoria got jack of the state government and founded one of their own - the Independent State of Rainbow Creek.

S2
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-02-07 at 02:33:53 PST   Listings
D1 Dave my Gibbons colour guide is imprinted on the back of the sepia/brown cover printed by HARRISON AND SONS LTD.LONDON 8512/38 - and given that many printers use a ref.number ending in a slash/year I am presuming my guide is from 1938 (certainly, stylistically, it matches)

L. in Melbourne.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Jan-02-07 at 02:17:55 PST   Listings
Chris/chk99989 It appears that no one has answered your question regards what is good philatelic reference literature on the Spanish Civil War. Not my area at all however you could try asking on the Spanish PS Forum Or you could try contacting the UK based Spanish Study Circle Both of which I hope can help you further. Possibly also try asking on Richard Frajola's board which has many international collectors also a link to which can be found here.
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 02:09:25 PST   Listings
Linda you posted:

Posted by mini*lindy ( 305 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:01:34 PST Listings
...and here is what the 'old' 1938 SG colour guide was like for BLUE (ONLY showing SOME of the blues) here-- (may be large! I'm not a very good scanner!)

Linda
---------------

How did you date your guide? i have 3 with different cover/adverts none have dates.

D1
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-02-07 at 02:00:21 PST   Listings
Thanks mini

Does this make me famous winning Q?

I can offer free autographs on a first come first served basis!

OK guys not too many R's now please use the kiss principle

D1
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Jan-02-07 at 01:23:45 PST   Listings

Colour/Color Not only are there different spellings but collectors must be aware that each catalogue no matter which it is, ie Scott, Gibbons, Michel, Sassone, Yvert etc they will all give a different colour listing for exactly the same stamp.
There is no sure and easy way for them to be classified under the one colour.
Safe to say also that the so called catalogue colour charts are only any good as a , "guide line" to the colours described in their particular catalogues. I mean no use trying to cross reference a stamp laid against a Gibbons chart when trying to see what Scott stamp number and colour you have.
Then specialist collectors will again split the listed colour varieties down further into many sub-categories. Good example being the recent new colour that Rainer discovered for Tibet.
The annoying factor for me is when I see items for sale descibed as being a certain colour by dealers/collectors and to me it looks nothing like what I perceive that colour to look like. No, I am not colour blind but I do recognise that the human eye will see things differently, just as on computer monitors the shades we see can look very different when viewed there as to what they actually are sat in front of the eye in natural daylight.
David B stated perfectly in one of his earlier posts why and how such variations exist. The whole discussion has been very interesting to follow. Of course all here will not agree on every point raised but it is good to see it being a discussion rather than any sort of argument. Lets hope things stay that way.

David S I have no objections to your seeking help and advice here about colours or on any other philatelic question. However I do question as to wether you are inadvertently breaking the ebay rules by stating that you have listed "x" items at "x" price. That could be seen by ebay as a form of you trying to steer people towards your auction listings and that my friend is against ebay rules. Now please note that I do not mean what I say in any harmful or spiteful way but if I was you I would be more careful about what you say here. Ebay could suspend you and your listings if they feel you are attempting to conduct business on the board. Maybe it is just me reading the rules and your posts wrong and if so I apologize in advance.


Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-02-07 at 00:57:19 PST   Listings
Posted by wrd3 ( 99 ) on Dec-31-06 at 07:14:00 PST Listings
Q entries. For those who are interested, I saved the "Q" entries so I could review them to declare a winner. They are here. There were 38 entries. The prize for "most spirit" goes to jim_lawler, with 13 entries. My sentimental favorite was jimbo, with two entries from Today in Postal History, a long-running favorite of mine that ended quite some time ago. We learned about "Q" volcanos and "Q" perfins, with 3 contentestants posting their perfins (obviously something I'm partial to).

I look at the "A-Z" postings as "amateur hour", where participants share a piece of their collection in a somewhat impromptu manner. Despite that, my selection for winner of the "Q" showings is de66 for his display Queensland Revenues The Smaller Taxes 1885-1965, an interesting and informative showing. His prize .... to judge the "R" entries, which have started.

Bill D.
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-01-07 at 23:45:51 PST   Listings
OK which Davo won the Q ?

D1 or D2

D1

Posted by sheryll*net   ( 90 ) on Jan-01-07 at 23:16:41 PST   Listings
A happy New Year to all!

Here's a photo of the Grand Chateau to accompany Io's R is for Ruapehu post.

S2
Posted by vinnysf   ( 265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 22:52:19 PST   Listings
most of my listings look like this: U.S. # 231 Unused 2c columbus columbian x 2...the one page you showed as an example was the only time i ever used such a non descriptive title. 90% of the time i put the scott number in it. anyway, no big deal i guess..my listings aren't always perfect but i usually do alright so i'm plesed..i was just putting my 2c in about how starting an auction at .99c could mean that you will only get .99c for an item that is worth considerably more,, heheh i dont' even know who posted that anymore. :)
Posted by vinnysf   ( 265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 22:43:14 PST   Listings
malalo - i'm sorry if you thought i was being offensive..i definitly wasn't trying to offend anyone..i already had it out with everyone about that kind of thing....the colombians i'm talking about was in that list you posted a link to. you must have missed it as it was toward the end of the listings. heres the item number: 130061718148.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-01-07 at 22:33:08 PST   Listings
hi Dave, you must have heard me thinking about you!!!
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-01-07 at 22:32:20 PST   Listings
uppercanadian, Brad glad you are participating in our A-Z
and speaking of the A-Z has de66 David been notified that he won Q and is supposed to be judging R?
He may be on vacation, it is summer down here right now!
L.
Posted by de66   ( 1027 ) on Jan-01-07 at 22:31:04 PST   Listings
R is for REVENUE

http://users.bigpond.net.au/dave1/index/ [learn only site]

D1
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 22:11:40 PST   Listings
R is for RIVER

Sorry, but my daughter loves this STUFF, so if that means one day we can work on our collections together, then I am all for Winnie the Pooh on stamps!!!
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 22:02:35 PST   Listings
R is for Renaissance

Hans Memling, although considered to be an Early Renaissance artist, clearly shows in this painting of the Passion of Christ that his roots were definitely in the Late Medieval period.


This is a favourite stamp of mine and figures prominently in my new topical interest of Medieval Themes on Stamps.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:50:34 PST   Listings
UPPERCANDIAN-----Forget about fluorescence ,its a minefield to decribe color . Depending on light fixture both wavelenght and manufactor ,human eye and paper your all over the place with color
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:49:39 PST   Listings
Stamps12345,

I would not use the name that the manufacturer uses. For instance, I would pick up 30 shades of blue. Now, I am talking about the large one colour chips that measure about 3" x 2" each.

Now, I will grab Scott # 302. Scott says the colour is Ultramarine. The stamp had a short usage period, and there are no shades reported. So, I find the paint store colour chip matching the stamp, and mark the colour chip Ultramarine. So, theoretically, this means that that colour chip will be a fairly close match for any stamp listed as Ultramarine in Scott's.

Posted by 22028   ( 1536 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:49:10 PST   Listings
Speaking about colors…, maybe the best guide available these days is “NCS – Natural Color System by the Scandinavian Colour Institute.
If the tools are not visible form the link below…, click on the left site of the page >>> Products >>> NCS Colour Tools >>> NCS Colour Sample >>> View Products
http://www.ncscolour.com/webbizz/mainPage/main.asp
But, these colors have no reference to color names used in stamp catalogues..., however, also the Methuen handbook of color does not have this but the later one is widely used by stamp collectors.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:45:42 PST   Listings
This will be my first ever entry for the "Philatelic ABC's".

R is for ROBIN



........
Christopher Robin that is!!!

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:45:39 PST   Listings
NOIP-----We are going to a numerical code for all colors and the code someday may be incorporated into the stamp hobby .Those color samples are misleadind that you get at the paint store or hardware store because each manufacture makes up their own names .The S.G. color chart is the best and the closes we have to a standard .
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:20:07 PST   Listings
Jim,

Yes, I think I have seen them. There are also some colour charts available for Canada's Small Queen's, as colour is about the only way to tell the Montreal and two Ottawa printings from each other. Like the ones you mention, they are rather pricey though.

I am looking at the Wonder Gauge now. It is awful!!! The patent for it was filed by C.B.Glick. Never heard of the guy!!?? You are lucky in the US though, as you have far more tools and resources available to you.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:15:14 PST   Listings
Speaking of fluorescence, there is one Centennial Catalogue that not only lists the brightness or strength of fluoresence, but also the colour of it. They also have 11 levels of fluorescent brilliance (scale 0-10). The colour are listed like Cream and Black / Ivory and Dark Brown / Cream and Dark Brown. Now under a fluorescent light, those colours are very hard to ascertain. Everything just looks purple to me!!!

Please excuse me if I spelled fluorescence wrong once or twice. It is a difficult word to type 20 times in two short messages!!
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:14:07 PST   Listings
uppercanadian… The Wonder Gauge colors bear no relation to the real world. I can’t imagine what they were thinking when they put it together.

A man named White published an excellent color guide for US stamps, sold in several volume encyclopedic form. I’ve seen it for sale on eBay from time to time, for upwards of $300, but it’s supposed to be very good for IDing colors of US stamps.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:11:09 PST   Listings
Where I am really having trouble these days is with levels of fluorescence. In the Canadian Unitrade Specialised Catalogue, they list Dead, Dull, Low, Medium, High, Hibrite. I really have trouble picking these out. I have a chart of stamps with known fluorescence levels, but even a stamp that is supposed to be Dead, seems to be illuminated by the radiant light of the UV Light.

I look at two stamps, on the white selvedge, the colour under UV is a dark lavender. The other stamp, will be darker, something like dark violet. Now which one is more fluorescent? Taking into consideration that there is some radiant light from the UV light, there must be more actual fluorescence from the darker one, as it is absorbing a dulling the radiant light source.

I don't even know if any of that makes sense, but from about 1950 up until 1980, fluorescent levels are very important with Canadian stamps.
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:05:07 PST   Listings

that is an neat colour chart Linda. In the end, I think it is easier having a solid colour though, rather than an actual design. But that is just my opinion.

Brad
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:03:41 PST   Listings
Colour is very difficult to discuss, and I am finding as I get older, is even harder to differentiate.

What I have considered doing on numerous occasions is to go to Rona or Home Depot and gradually compile a collection of the colour chits they have in the paint department. I would then match it to Scott (or whatever catalogue you use) colours. I would use solid colour stamps that are not know for shades, in order to find the right colour chit with the proper name.

The colour chits are also quite large, so you would be able to really customise and put together a nice colour chart. I started preparing one a while back, but then ended up using it for a full summer of painting fun in the house.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-01-07 at 21:01:34 PST   Listings
...and here is what the 'old' 1938 SG colour guide was like for BLUE (ONLY showing SOME of the blues) here-- (may be large! I'm not a very good scanner!)

Linda
Posted by uppercanadian   ( 818 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:57:49 PST   Listings
Unfortunately, Scott has never issued a colour guide. They are very expensive to produce - a good one is anyway. I have an old American one called the Wonder Color Gauge from 1940. It's colour descriptions are close to that of Scott's Catalogue, but the colours are very grainy. You cannot use a microscope or even a magnifying glass with them.

Although it is not cheap, the Stanley Gibbons is the best available. The colour is solid, exact and permanent. The colour names are not the same as Scott, but you can figure it out in most cases over time.
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:47:48 PST   Listings
Vinny, Stanley Gibbons produce a Color key, of approx. 200 colors, which is supposed to correspond to the colors quoted in the Stanley Gibbons Catalogues.
I dont know about american color charts, sorry.
Michel the German catalogue producers also produce a German Color guide, with about 50 pages, each page showing 30 colors.
WE have a very old (1938) Stanley Gibbons London Colour Chart with examples of 100 different standard shades and colours, each one printed as a tiny sample stamp.
Im sure a USA accessory supplier, such as Subway Stamps would have some color guides for sale.
Linda
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:44:59 PST   Listings
vinny -
Check out the despcription anf category of this auction. If a collector isn't in the specific category and doesn't use the specific search word (one word only), then the auction won't be found:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=675&item=130059359285

Same here within my collecting area.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4749&item=130062000993

BTW -
I don't know how recent you sold the columbians, but I don't see them here:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=30&userid=vinnysf&include=0&rows=200&sort=2&completed=1

I don't mean to be offesive, but I think you need to rethink your descriptions and titles. It would be very difficult to find some of your auctions.

Roger
Posted by vinnysf   ( 265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:44:01 PST   Listings
thanks stamps123456 ...need to get me a biggons catalog
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:40:20 PST   Listings
LETS DO THIS THE EASY WAY -----here are the correct colors for DJS .....Stamp collectors color chart to the catalog.....hope this helps
Posted by vinnysf   ( 265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:38:04 PST   Listings
malalo- titles are weird..i never know if i should put a space between the number sign and the number. because listings will come up either way but not always the same listings.
Posted by stamphick!   ( 333 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:37:49 PST   Listings
Roger...If I remember correctly you show at a local art gallery. I wonder if by chance you know this guy.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:36:16 PST   Listings
dj's - i hope your auctions do well...its hit and miss..i've sold mint columbians and they usually go for about $15 or more..but sometimes they go for a dollar. supply and demand i guess...good luck!
Posted by vinnysf   ( 265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:34:33 PST   Listings
mini lindy- i agree with you..probly my monitor. what references do you know of that has a stamp color chart? is there any kind of general color system that people can refer to?
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:24:25 PST   Listings
vinnysf -
In my opinion the overlooked auctions are "lost" in the eBay morass due to unsearchable titles and descriptions. It is amazing how many words are included in titles and descriptions which offer no help to a person trying to find the stamp.

Roger
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:21:02 PST   Listings
Bob -
It went, but it's a holiday weekend. So it goes in the modern world!

Roger
Posted by mini*lindy   ( 305 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:15:30 PST   Listings
Colors are a very difficult area to discuss, especially on-line where each monitor shows different shades.
In my Ink collection I have 3 books on Printers Inks and the varieties of colors is amazing.
Charles Eneu Johnson & Co of USA published a book of their inks around the turn of the century.. under BLUE they list Fourteen blue inks that printers could order.
George H Morrill Co of Mass. USA in their early 1900s book of Ink Color Samples list 19 different blue inks by order number.
F.T.WIMBLE & Co of Sydney Australia list 21 blue inks in their 1929 catalogue.

Many of the colors available, were shown as color plates in these amazing catalogues. The type/color of ink ordered often depended on the application and the paper being used.
This is Morrill's Ultramarine Blue No.01546 in 133, 120, solid, 150 and 100 screen at base.
While this is Charles Eneu Johnson's Ultramarine Blue No.389, which to me is very grey-blue!!
So, maybe Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, Sugar is Sweet,
but stamps come in a variety of colors!
Linda
Posted by djs127   ( 531 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:10:42 PST   Listings
Vinnysf Hopefully that problem won't happen to any of the 10 99 cent auctions I just launched now.
David Snyder
Posted by randinattor   ( 15 )   on Jan-01-07 at 20:08:33 PST   Listings
I have alot of old stamps some dated 1800 and early 1900 and up to date. Bought box at yard sale, but don't know where to start on selling them any advise
Posted by rclwa   ( 943 ) on Jan-01-07 at 20:01:31 PST   Listings
Roger -- Been watching, nothing yet. Sent myself a test message that showed up right away. Maybe you should re-send.

Bob in WA
rclwa-AT-nwi-DOT-net
Posted by vinnysf   ( 265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 19:33:30 PST   Listings
jaywild- that blue looks green to me...
Posted by vinnysf   ( 265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 19:31:02 PST   Listings
red-dog starting an auction for .99c isn't good for a high priced item. because they do get overlooked and then get only one bid. recently i sold two beautiful mint, never hinged, original gum 2c columbus expositions for 1.00. it happens all the time especially to newcomers like myself
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-01-07 at 19:03:34 PST   Listings
Bob in WA -
Please CYE.
Roger
Posted by djs127   ( 531 ) on Jan-01-07 at 18:43:43 PST   Listings
red-dog9 Rick- Thanks for your comments on 99 cent starts for auctions. I see you do as you preach. I will be uploading 10 lots all at 99 cents (1 with a reserve) at 11PM tonight.
I will let everyone know what happens next Monday night.
David Snyder
Posted by chk99989   ( 142 ) on Jan-01-07 at 18:38:45 PST   Listings
Howdy all, long time no see. I have a question from another board.
What is a good reference for the philately of the Spanish Civil War?
I know this is a very complicated area and needs specialist reference works,
but this is an area I know little about and don't know who the standard
authors are.

Thanks!
Chris - still working on Brazil at the moment, when time allows which it usually doesn't
Posted by malolo   ( 832 ) on Jan-01-07 at 18:37:47 PST   Listings
Aloha -
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Posted by red-dog9   ( 2590 ) on Jan-01-07 at 18:33:27 PST   Listings
David Snyder:
Allow me to weigh in on my experience with listing everything @ .99/lot. When listing at .99, naturally, you worry that a $10.00 item will be sold for .99. In my experience, it doesn't happen. Ebay is simply too large a market; rarely will it happen that a higher value item gets sold for .99. What about if the $10.00 item has 5 bids and only sells for 3.95? Well my friend, the market has spoken - it's only worth $3.95. Had you listed it for 7.99, it likely would not have sold anyways and you would be out listing fees, etc.
So, go ahead, list for .99!!! Bidders love these sales. Plus, trollers will see alot of action on your lots and subconciously wonder what all the hulla baloo is and hopefully check out your lots.
Best of Luck, Rick


Posted by red-dog9   ( 2590 ) on Jan-01-07 at 18:13:00 PST   Listings
PROCHUTE & JAYWILD
Thanks, I was kinda thinking too, that it was just a darker shade of the ultra, but with out having both stamps beside each other, sometimes it's hard to tell
Rick (red-dog9)
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-01-07 at 18:07:08 PST   Listings
Blue vs ultramarine… I realize that colors of US stamps do not equate directly with those of GB, but this is a comparison of what blue (left) and ultramarine (right) mean in terms of US stamps.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-01-07 at 18:04:41 PST   Listings
red-dog9 Just a deeper shade of ultra. The true deep blue is almost a smokey grayish-blue - very dark & deep.
Posted by red-dog9   ( 2590 ) on Jan-01-07 at 17:57:28 PST   Listings
Greetings;
While we're on the subject of Falklands 2½p Eddy, would the stamp on the left be the dark blue shade?
http://666kb.com/i/akls7y3yv53ty1p51.jpg
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-01-07 at 17:41:41 PST   Listings
David D2 Scott does not list watermark varieties for any stamp. However, the Eddie will sell if the opening bid is not too high. The deep blue is a difficult stamp anyway.
Posted by djs127   ( 531 ) on Jan-01-07 at 17:03:01 PST   Listings
David B - Scott only lists Watermark #3 which is Multiple Crown and CA which I think is what it has.
David Snyder
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 16:53:13 PST   Listings
prochute, what I was trying to stress was the relevance between catalogue values and actual values. The Ultramarine (forget catalogue value) is like you say $9-12 according to the demand at the time and will be lucky to find a buyer. The Deep Blue is worth whatever the demand will bring but will be in the $150-$200 range and will easily sell,

What djs. should be doing is checking to see if the Ultramarine has any of the watermark variations, inverted or inverted & reversed. I don't know if Scott's mentions the watermark variants or not,

David B.
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-01-07 at 16:50:59 PST   Listings
http://www.filatelia.fi/forgeries/samoa-express.html
Posted by djs127   ( 531 ) on Jan-01-07 at 16:49:46 PST   Listings
Thanks prochute I will add the Gibbons info to the lot as I have not uploaded yet. I should still start it at 99 cents right?
David Snyder
Posted by prochute   ( 65 ) on Jan-01-07 at 16:32:03 PST   Listings
djs127 Wait a minute. Gibbons says that stamp is #46 2½d. Ultramarine (shades) cv £29.00(1.96481) = $56.98! Now, is it worth $57.00 in the U.K.? I think not. As David B says, it will usually fetch $9.00-12.00 dependant upon "eye appeal". That is the market range, hinged.
Posted by djs127   ( 531 ) on Jan-01-07 at 16:27:27 PST   Listings
David B. If I will get that much for the 1 Falkland stamp when I list it I would be happy.
Over the last 2 days when I wasn't spending time with my 12 year old son, I have been going through my father's stamps which I never put into my scott international albums. Mostly mint hinged and some early high value -- I have been making country lots, putting the stamps on black stock sheets and scanning them in. If I had scott numbers I listed them otherwise not. If they are high catalog then I list the values otherwise I just start the lots at 99 cents.
I will load them before I go to sleep and use them as a test of what people on the chat have been telling me.
David Snyder
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3284 ) on Jan-01-07 at 16:25:36 PST   Listings
R is for RARE (not).

Back home safe, pleasant family memories of the weekend, and some neat photos on the trip back.

Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 16:00:08 PST   Listings
djs, forget about quoting catalog values, it may be best to quote values, it is now worth $ 10 instead of $200,

David B.
Posted by djs127   ( 531 ) on Jan-01-07 at 15:05:06 PST   Listings
David B. - Thanks for the color check. Too bad as its now catalogs $35 instead of $300. But I appreciate your help as I don't think my father was very good at colors.
David Snyder


Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 14:37:34 PST   Listings
Paul, the 1877 to 1887 typo has been corrected in the newer edition,

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 14:35:53 PST   Listings
Paul, My Specialised Colombia catalog is a few years old but it should give you a better idea of the designs and variations of the issue.

REPULICA design

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r256/deebee444/Repulica.jpg

REPUBLICA design

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r256/deebee444/Republica.jpg

Scott's Specialised listing is very simplified and is about the same as Gibbons Simplified Stamps of The World.

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 14:15:07 PST   Listings
SCOTT'S catalog ----- Colombia page with wrong stamp.....paul
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 14:03:41 PST   Listings
Paul, ask them to check Gibbons Specialised, Part 20 for the correct designs.

Can you scan that page of Scott's,

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 14:01:04 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----Scott has the wrong picture in their 2006 specialized ,maybe someone should let them know and forward the scan of the difference . They are silent about any written describition
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 13:44:38 PST   Listings
djs,

looks like Ultramarine to me,

David B.
Posted by djs127   ( 531 ) on Jan-01-07 at 13:32:26 PST   Listings
I was going through my father's stamps today and saw this Falklands Islands stamp
http://members.aol.com/djs127/falk25a.jpg
which my father said was Scott #25a 2 1/2p Deep Blue rather than the Ultramarine. Would the experts on color on this board agree?
Thanks,
David Snyder
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:52:27 PST   Listings
Paul, the second stamp is the earlier issue with REPULICA and narrow frame line. The 1st. stamp has the corrected design PEPUBLICA and wide frame line. There are many design
changes between between the 2 and Scott's should show both but they presumed that the variance between the spellings would be enough to differentiate them.

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:37:31 PST   Listings
IOMOON----You can forward the scan to your friend at Scott's once David confirms the correct one .
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:34:39 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----Here they are Thick and Thin oval Frame Line ...paul
Posted by keleofa   ( 3327 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:33:34 PST   Listings
Jim (Jaywild),

Thanks!

Matt in Arizona
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:26:56 PST   Listings
Matt in AZ… Tiny cover alert!! Plus it has a decent Universal Rainier National Park slogan cancel.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by antonius-ra   ( 615 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:25:45 PST   Listings
A couple of R's:
Russia
Romania
Eastern Rumelia
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:25:01 PST   Listings
DAVID B. -----The catalog has the same picture for both ,but the stamp has your spelling of REPULICA and the other REPUBLICA,let me scan them
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:22:04 PST   Listings
Paul, It was a typo in Gibbons, it should have been 1887.

The Repulica has thin frame lines, the Republica has wide frame lines,

Show some scans of the stamps you wish to identify, it will make it easier,

David B.
Posted by vinnysf   ( 265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:16:22 PST   Listings
happy new year everyone!
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:15:47 PST   Listings
DAVID B. ----Its the Narino issue of 1887 and 1889 ,your 1877 are the Liberty Head
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:07:17 PST   Listings
Paul, re the Colombia, I presume you mean the 1877 issue and not 1887. They are inscribed REPULICA and has a narrow frame line. The corrected REPUBLICA 1889 has a wide frame line.

David B.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 12:00:30 PST   Listings
NEED HELP ------On the Colombia issue of the Gen. Antonio Narino issue of 1887 and 1889. The Scott catalog has both with a wide color band around the oval with the face in it . But this is a ERROR one of the two stamps should have a thin band around the oval ,But which one ?
Posted by dbenson   ( 7682 ) on Jan-01-07 at 11:43:20 PST   Listings
Swedish,

have you checked British Exhibition catalogues to see if anyone in GB exhibits that type of material. If you could peruse their collection and their auxilary material you will learn more than studying literature and dealers stocks.

David B.
Posted by 1covers   ( 1265 ) on Jan-01-07 at 11:27:07 PST   Listings
Mike - that penny is worth maybe 15c if in MS63 condition. The slabbing is made up by a dealer and not a recognized third party grader. Probably even lower quality than my guess above. So, you are into it for $5.01 - such a deal!
Posted by mikeduval   ( 44 ) on Jan-01-07 at 11:09:59 PST   Listings
rolyrj Think ur shill bidder took the day off:( just won Item number: 290066727690 with a 1 cent bid


Anyone here collect coins know if it's worth anything?
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-01-07 at 10:59:11 PST   Listings
Oh - one other beef about Stamp Wants. I see some of the ebay sellers that have been kicked off ebay, have reappeared on Stamp Wants and are doing a roaring business there.
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-01-07 at 10:56:35 PST   Listings
Jaywild You'd think they would quote the real value for a straight edge copy, as that is what they are giving away. The value they quote was for a MNH copy with perfect perforations, sold last year in NY. When you see this diluting of integrity, one wonders who the winner will be.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 10:52:15 PST   Listings
RAINER ----Thanks for your help ,will get my e-mail to you .I plan to get the book because for years have been picking up Columbia States cheap but never got around to makeing a showing all laid out on album pages .
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-01-07 at 10:06:35 PST   Listings
Hmmm… Looks like StampWants, in its search for new customers, is giving away an inverted Jenny.

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-01-07 at 10:05:35 PST   Listings
Jaywild - Thanks. If I ever get the time I would like to have a page devoted to plating #7, one of the easiest to plate.
Posted by jaywild   ( 898 ) on Jan-01-07 at 09:31:08 PST   Listings
Swedish Tiger… Congratulations on the excellent work you’ve done with the US 1c Franklin issues of 1851-57. I predict that will become the go-to resource for identifying those types. Beautiful work!

Jim

? How to do a “flip-comparison” test on perforations
? US Stamp Identifiers:
| 10c Issue of 1855-57 | First 3¢ Stamped Envelopes | Grilled Stamps | Large “Banknotes” | First Bureau Issues | Abe Lincoln’s “tiny eye”
                                    | Washington-Franklin stamps of 1908-22 | 2nd & 3rd Issue Revenue Designs | Colors, Scott 70/78, 24¢ Washington

Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-01-07 at 08:15:44 PST   Listings
Stamps12345 - Thanks very much for your help on this. I have pretty much the same sitting in a draw. Unfortunately used copies tend to poor representation of color. As you will see the blue ink fades leaving many looking yellowish green. Mint copies of this issue are the best resource.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 08:09:08 PST   Listings
SWEDISH TIGER ----Can this help G.B. 1 SHILLING ....paul
Posted by jimbo   ( 385 ) on Jan-01-07 at 07:55:25 PST   Listings
lluehhhb
See crested oval and this offering which describes them as:
"1934 21st March, ½d to 5/- George V Field Marshals (less 9d not yet issued), 2d and 3d large Falls, ½d, 1½d and 10d perf. 11½, others perf. 12. Each on separate cover with special crested oval 'ROYAL TOUR H.R.H. PRINCE GEORGE SOUTH AFRICA' strikes dated 21 III 34. A delightful set, superb and fresh. Very rare."

I think your cover was used to forward similar covers to a purchaser.

jimbo
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 225 ) on Jan-01-07 at 07:35:36 PST   Listings
R is for a Revalued Chilean stamp issued in 1975.

In August 1st, 1975, the Chilean monetary unit was changed from Escudos to Pesos. In part this was motivated due to the high inflation numbers (over 200% in 1973).

A set of definitive stamps (10 different) was issued between 1975 an 1979, featuring a draw of Diego Portales in a single color. values were 10c to $5.

Although I don't have the 1975 rates on hand, I believe that the smallest value, 10c, was used to complete frankings rather than to pay a a 10c single rate (I doubt it ever existed).

1) a 1975 (second month of use) cover to USA using the 10c stamp.

With the inflation still at high numbers, this stamp became quickly unusable. What to do with the stock? Let's use it in big covers!

2) a december 1978 (a year later) big domestic cover, sent from the New Zealand embassy to a governmental geology agency. Franked with 80 copies of the 10c stamp to pay $8 (I don't know if the rate is correct). Amazing cover!

3) in 1979 the remainders of this stamp were surchrged to $3.50 (The basic domestic letter rate).
Here is a cover using it.

Now the mistery:
4) Some time ago I bought a big lot of Chilean covers sent to USA. There I found this 1980 cover, sent to a pen pal organization (the rest of the covers were sent there too). The $11.50 rate is correct. leftmost stamp was trimmed in the opening.

Considering that:
- The type of the numbers is different to the original
- The ink used is quite bad and different (violet v/s green)
- Marked in a different stamp (50c)
- Mark was handstamped, stamp by stamp.
- The result was so poor that it wouldn't fool any postal clerk

I'm pretty sure that this was a totally unofficial emergency overprint made by someone in the Valparaiso post office. I've shown this in our philatelic society and that seems to be the general opinion.
Posted by willderspin   ( 594 ) on Jan-01-07 at 07:29:15 PST   Listings
David

Thank you for your comments, they are much appreciated, and as you can probably guess I have come to the same conclusion in the way I have approached the task. I have not broken down the color variations of the surface printed but simply shown an example of each SG number. Right now I am just steaming through the numbers, when finished with with QV I intend to add a few cavaet emptors. For the surface printed you will note that I have shown a whole host of shades, few of which correspond to the color description given by Gibbons. I did show a cross between a Lake Red and Rose-red for SG44, thereby indicating that one is not looking for a real Lake color in this stamp.

When I do get to circling around to writing up the Surface Printed I want to be able to use reference material. I am making a trip to the RPS in London and will sit in their library (and finaly make use of my membership dues) and research this. Any help you can add to this I would much appreciate, I will credit you, of course.

I skipped the Jubilee's because they will be the most difficult. Fortunately I will be using Trevor Harris as a resource and he has done a superb job of breaking out the colors by year, die, ink and paper. He is aware that there was a change of color on the purple on yellow shades. He conjectures it might have been a incorrect dye mix or the result of new chemical additives reacting to the dye. In addition in 1891, for a short period, the paper was orange!

The 4 1/2d is the most difficult stamp of all. I have managed to lay my hands on Deep Green and Bright Carmine (not listed by SG) and I am still on the look out for many other variations. I will probably never locate a K34(3) which is flourescent and has a deeper and brighter carmine shade. So I concurr with you on this issue.

The Chesnuts I have done and redone a thousand times. The pale chesnut that I show is probably as accurate as one can get, as it is not as pale as folks would suppose.

What is infuriating are the blued papers. The five pound blued I scanned a dealers copy, the last time I was in London, the problem was, it lacked a cert. So who knows. But finding a certified blued fiver is like waiting for Godot, this is an example of where I went for the best I could find, not the perfect copy.

I do have a question, for you. That is on the 1/- Green Jubilee. Currently SG recognizes two vars. Dull green and grey-green. The RPS has added a third, Deep grey-green. However I am convinced that there are more variations than these, particularly duller greens (eg dull grey-green). I would be interested in your opinion on this stamp. I keep coming back to it.

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Posted by 22028   ( 1536 ) on Jan-01-07 at 07:21:04 PST   Listings
Paul, I also can recommend you:
Catalogo Hisotrica Filatelico Colombia, Edicion Especializada, issued in 1984 by Leo Temprano...
From that one I can send you scans as well...
Posted by 22028   ( 1536 ) on Jan-01-07 at 07:11:44 PST   Listings
Paul, the definitive work on these issues is:
Los Correos Y las Estambillas De Cucuta Y Del Norte De Santander by Luis Raul Rodriguez Lamus, issued 1983 in Bogota. I thought I have a copy in pdf format on a CD somewhere. Send me a email thru ebay with your email address and when I find the CD i send you the respective pages.
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-01-07 at 07:05:25 PST   Listings
R is for Ruapehu.

A very active volcano.
Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 06:59:02 PST   Listings
NOIP------Does anybody have any information about the Colombia rebel provisional government in Cucuta,they issued a lot of stamps but Scott only list a few {174--184},does S.G list additional issues and the overprints .They also are signed by A.ROIS of Barcelona on album pages from Publicidad Filatelico Pelayo ,Barcelona
Posted by lluehhhb   ( 225 ) on Jan-01-07 at 06:54:24 PST   Listings
R is for Revenues used as postage in modern Chile covers.

Revenues has been authorized to be used as postage in several times (they were even authorized to pay telegrams once).
The last valid usage was in 1913. All later uses are wrong and should have been marked as postage due.
Many times revenue usages passed OK:

1) 1958 commercial domestic cover

2) post 1960 (date unreadable) small cover, since it was mailed on 31 Dec. and the value of the stamp is the smallest one, I guess it's a new year greeting card sent as printed matter.

3) Usually you find covers with revenues, but not a 1968 domestic Parcel forms franked with a single revenue. Quite rare.

4) It's really difficult to find taxed covers due to the illegal usage of revenues. Usually they go OK.
Here is a 1967 commercial domestic cover franked with two 10c revenue stamps, the were marked with pen marks and the cover was taxed with the double of the rate (20c x 2 = 40c).
Nothe that in the Chilean postal regulations, if a cover is underpaid or has illegal stamps, it's taxed with 2 times the difference. But if it's franked with previously cancelled stamps, the due is 50 times the rate!
Posted by iomoon   ( 1036 ) on Jan-01-07 at 06:48:25 PST   Listings
Good day all.

From a very wet Longisland.

Milenko

The "White Train" was a Royal visit to SA by George, Elizabeth and their two daughters, namely Margaret and Elizabeth.
Posted by jim_lawler   ( 1160 ) on Jan-01-07 at 06:39:44 PST   Listings
K.E. (knuden )
I’m behind on several things, but I’m not that far behind. :8^ P)

willderspin
I’ve got some Monopoly money I can send for that penny black if you’ll get me your address.


Happy
New
Year


My ISP is messed up ant the tech dept. not available. So, not “R” post for this time. :8^ (

Jim L.

Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 06:37:04 PST   Listings
SWEDISH TIGER -----Impressive website and something that will get used by many who know about it. Should be listed under the yellow box thing thats on this site .

Looks like your website can help me redo my early British some time this year ,also interest in your statement about color variations accepted by others but the catalogs have yet to list them,very interestings congradulations on a diffucult task ....paul

Posted by lluehhhb   ( 225 ) on Jan-01-07 at 06:29:59 PST   Listings
I was sorting some covers for sale, and I got some doubts on three:

1) South Africa 1934 cover, honestly I have no idea what's going on here, A royal visit? in a official cover?

2) Czechoslovakia 1949 registered cover to Chile, front and back. I guess that "doporucene" means registered. The interesting thing here is the brown paper covering a German Nazi eagle with a red cross and "Deutsches Rotes Kreuz - Kreisstelle Ludik" in gothic letters. Tried to translate "ludick" without luck, maybe I read it incorrectly.
What I find curious is the reuse of a German cover about 4 years after the end of the war, I think it's a somewhat late usage.

3) Yugoslavia 1956 registered cover to Chile, front and back. In the back there is a brown paper and a triangular mark "Pregledano bruj(?)" and a signature. Some kind of control or censorship?

Thanks!
Posted by postalhysteria   ( 3284 ) on Jan-01-07 at 06:22:58 PST   Listings
Good morning new year!

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I guess they will never quit.

Nice snipe/post Jim!

Jeff


Posted by stamps12345   ( 222 ) on Jan-01-07 at 06:18:31 PST   Listings
INFLA-ALEC-----------I see you came around to agree with my earlier posting that they are not covers but are some kind of Post Office receipts or revenue useage .Your going to have to find a specialized study paper or a society report to get more information about them .

Posted by dbenson   ( 7678 ) on Jan-01-07 at 02:41:00 PST   Listings
Alec, I should get an answer tomorrow about the items. Will let you know then.

Swedish,

another isue that has problems is of course the 1887 Jubilee issue but only a few values. The 3d. Purple on Orange, 4 1/2d. rare shade & the various sades of the 10d. Should keep you busy for a while. After you finish those you can go into the various Commonwealth issues of the 1870's-1890 where Gibbons regularly classifies items as Pale Whatever, Whatever & Deep Whatever (fill in Rose, Blue, Green, Orange etc.) They are of couse nonsensze as again the colours deepened with the advent of the thicker papers in the mid. 1880's which allowed deeper ink impression and therefore deeper colours. There was also a great improvement in the quality of ink in the 1880-1900 period and most stamps from that period show deeper colours as they get towards the end of the century, France, French Colonial, Germany etc. are good examples.

David B.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7678 ) on Jan-01-07 at 02:30:29 PST   Listings
Swedish, Gibbons for some unknown reason classifies the 1864 1d. Plates in Rose Red & lake Red. Of course the early printings are all in Rose Red and the later in Lake Red, I am not sure when the changes occurred but it would be around the later plates, possibly around Plate 190. The 1870 1/2d. is similar, Rose Red & Red, possibly the change is around Plate 12. I don't think anyone worries about the 1870 1 1/2d whether it is Rose Red or Lake Red as the important aspect is whether it is Plate 1 or 3.

There are a few tricky shades in the Surface Printed which I didn't mention that mistakes are made, 1872-3 6d. Deep Chestnut, Chestnut, Pale Buff & Pale Chestnut, these stamps are rarely seen mint and most used examples are faded, dirty or both. The 1883 Hi Values is another area where mistakes are made especially the many so called Blued papers on the market and the rare shade of the 10s. Gibbons classifies the 5s. as Rose & Crimson which is of course ridiculous as they don't correspond to their own colour chart. What is needed is an update to the clolour classifications that Gibbons use for the 2s.6 & 5s. however that is up to the Editor but must nmake it difficult for the less learned collector who is just filling in spaces in a printed album or using the catalogue as a bible instead of a reference,

David B.
Posted by infla-alec   ( 486 ) on Jan-01-07 at 02:28:14 PST   Listings
Happy New Year to everyone now that we have all brought in 2007.

Jim The Afghan dates you pointed out I see now what you were refering to. Rainer very kindly sent me a scan from the Michel catalogue and the design of those I have I think clearly shows that the actual stamps do not have any year date. I/m almost certain now that both are in fact Afghan Registration Stamps Still unsure as to wether the pieces are some form of receipt but I would think so. No prices are given for the 1898 issues used, so it remains to be seen wether they are in fact genuine usage as Michel state that forgeries of that series exist.

Wilderspin Very interesting site on the GB KEVI colours. I have saved it in my favourites. I'm hopeless on identifying those colours but it is nice to see them online. Congratulations anyway on a labour of love. Keep it up.
Posted by dbenson   ( 7678 ) on Jan-01-07 at 02:09:50 PST   Listings
Swedish,

I can't see much sense in trying to discern shades on the Surface Printed issues as the shades changed with the Plate numbers. Usually the later printings were much deeper shades, especially 2 1/2d. in Rose & Blue, 3d., 4d., 6d., 9d., 10d. & 1s. The 2s. does a large variance from Pale to Deep and they do need a reference as many examples are mistaken especially the rare Cobalt. What is desparately needed is an on line reference of the various printings of the 1d. Plates, Large & Small Crowns as many are offered as rare shades but are just figments (or pigments) of the seller's imagination. I don't agree with your classification of the 6d. Embossed but it could be the appearance on my monitor that is the problem. I know that whenever I scan a 6d. Embossed it looks different from the colour of the stamp in front of me. The KEVII & KGV period is the most important and the colours look good and will be a great boon to collectors and will be extremely well used. Well done, especially on the Kings,

David B.
Posted by billsey   ( 838 ) on Jan-01-07 at 00:28:31 PST   Listings
Not bad Jim!


You must have been practicing.
Posted by rolyrj   ( 2 ) on Jan-01-07 at 00:25:12 PST   Listings
Thanks Mitch .... Have used to new address.... CYE now :)
Posted by jaywild   ( 897 ) on Jan-01-07 at 00:00:00 PST   Listings

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!